How Crop Circles Work--Dr. Simeon Hein, Pt. 1 of 7

[youstupidmoron]

Tell me why all crop circles are made in fields with tractor lines that are used by people to get around without messing up the design, why are they never made in snow or dirt or any soft surface? Why aren't they ever made in natural fields without tractor lines? Why isn't there a single independent lab report on the planet to back up crazy myths that you nuts fall for so readily? Sorry kid, they're all man made, they always have been!

[youstupidmoron]

@MrPhenomenon1 I have no idea? Of what? You poor gullible fool, you didn't really think aliens make crop circles did you? Thats just sad! You have no idea! I love when you poor nuts fall for that alien garbage or Shen you actually think any crop circle isn't man made! It's hilarious! You keep on fantasizing, go ahead and let yourself be made a fool!

[dkb218]

@stupidmoran: please provide a link to you and your buddies making circles. Pictures, videos, that sort of thing. Also provide links to show every crop circle ever made, being made by a human. We need photos or video of this also. Until then, please shut the fuck up!

[youstupidmoron]

As I said, there are people all over who make them. Part if the reason people make them is to out do the last guy, a lot of us know each others work and kinda compete with each other. Although none of us imply that aliens make them, there is a certain pride to see people wonder how they're made. The very first ones were made in the 70s and got bigger and better each year as people got better at making them, just like everything man makes.

[Fractalfriend]

@youstupidmoron I've been out with your friends several times to watch circles made at night in Wiltshire so this isn't big news to me. We've even made a few ourselves after paying the farmer to use the field just to test our equipment. Just ask them.

[youstupidmoron]

Saying I can't prove all circles are man made is just like saying I can't prove all houses are man made, I didn't build all houses, the people I know didn't build all houses, but I know all houses are man made. There has never been any reason to even imagine any crop circle was made by aliens or any other supernatural being or force, just as there's been no reason to think the same about houses.

[youstupidmoron]

Coldarc, you dont get it! I spent 15 years making crop circles until 2008, I'm talking about the ones gullible people think can't be man made. I know with ALL absolution they are entirely man made. I know dozens of other people who make them as well. There is no secret language! We simply make interesting shapes. They are ALL man made, that's a fact. YOU need to open your mind and stop being so gullible!

[coldarc]

@youstupidmoron so how can you prove they are all man made, there is no science research evidence that have concluded that you guys is responsible for all of the crop circles ever made, so i guess i have to take your word for it. have you heard about a guy named John Searl, a man who clamed to have made all of the flying saucer peope have witnessed from somthing he was doing in his back yeard. you sound just like him. you can´t have been everywhere all of the time and not your frends neither.

[youstupidmoron]

Where do people come up with the shapes? You're kidding, right? Look around! Look at all the shapes people have come up with throughout history, do you think aliens come here and design cars? No, people design them, people come up with the shapes, drawing a shape is simple, get a pencil and draw something, did an alien make you draw the shape?

[coldarc]

@youstupidmoron its not a problem drawing a shape, its just that many of these crop circles are not random figures and contain information like learning from a ladder step by step. i have seen large but simpler patterns where more complex patterns are related the the simpler like if you chould teach somthing to someone like eduaction but with patterns. for example a magnetic field and then more patterns showing more interconnected version still depicting magnetic fields.

[coldarc]

@youstupidmoron there is one language that does not need to be spoken with words and writing and that is geometry. have an open mind and dont take things to serious. try be a real sceptic and not a naysayer denialist that have made up his mind to begin with because thats not a sceptic. keep things in the back of your head, evidence might not be tomorrow news, and put aside your preconception when you look at somthing you dont know everything about. nothing is written in stone.

[youstupidmoron]

Coldarc, where do they get there talent? I just explained that to you, as for microwave "residue", there is no such thing. No one has ever found any evidence of microwaves in any crop circle, next time someone truest to tell you such garbage, ask them to show you the independent lab work that would have to exist if their claims were true, they wont be able to show you any, none exist. All crop circles are man made.

[youstupidmoron]

Coldarc don't be ridiculous! All crop circles are man made, the ones you call fake are made by people with little experience or talent, circle makers have to start somewhere. The ones you think are made by "cloaking balls of light", (hysterical) are made by more talented people, people who have more experience. They are absolutely ALL man made.

[coldarc]

@youstupidmoron if that is so where do these talented people get their patterns from then? i have never seen enywhere enything like it. where do these talented people get their knowlege from? i have heard that one of the largest patterns took only a night to form. i have also heard that the crops had microwave residue in them and i can´t think of enything more redicules than a bunch of people running around with open microwave ovens and long exstension cords troughout the whole crop circle.

[coldarc]

glowing balls of light. the balls of light is not separate objects, they are extensions of translucent saucer crafts using cloaking technology. you know these crafts with shifting colors. ever considered holographic cloaking like phase conjugated mirrors? most ufos use some form of cloaking technology and they are everywhere around the planet. some ufos are spotted when there is a malfunctions in the cloak in some anomalous weather.

[youstupidmoron]

Believers are all going to feel completely idiotic when we all start demonstrating every aspect of how crop circles are made! Specially the morons who think there is some form of technology involved! Or the idiots who really think aliens make them! It's going to be absolutely hilarious to see their excuses! The so called "researchers" are going to be the best to laugh at! It's going to be funny!

[youstupidmoron]

There isn't a single independent lab report on the planet to support the idiotic claims made by self titled "crop circle researchers", they make it all up because they can fool gullible people into buying their ridiculous books and DVDs! They are absolutely all man made, they have always been.

[coldarc]

@youstupidmoron arent you giving crop circle makers people a little to much credit? cant you see the obvious gap between the manmade imperfect shitty meaningless crop patterns and those with perfect fully understadably and complex geometries? if we can send stupid messeges in space capsules leaving the solar system with information about us so can aliens do silly lowtech comunication with advanced tools. if you think humans is the peak of sentient intelligence in the universe you are the moron.

[youstupidmoron]

Fractalfriend, you remind me of people in the dark ages who attributed anything they couldn't understand to the supernatural or black magic. Just because you can't understand how people make all crop circles, you think they can't be man made! That's ridiculous! There is no science involved in crop circles, they are simply works of art. Get out of the dark ages.

[youstupidmoron]

Openyoureyes, i have an idea, since its common knowledge that all crop circles are man made, why don't you make a video showing that they are not! Make a video showing your alien buddies or whatever other supernatural beings you believe making them! There has never been ANY reason to imagine they aren't man made little boy.

[youstupidmoron]

Theonenandonlymicheal, you think aliens make crop circles and you call ME a dinosaur? That's funny! I think YOU should do a little education! I don't need to "meditate" to know how crop circles are made, I spent 15 years until 2008 making the ones you think are made by aliens. I almost feel sorry for brainwashed fools like you. It's kind of sad that your so gullible.

[OPENYOUREYESFFS]

Guys, you know I've just realised that there is a pattern with imbeciles like @youstupidmoron. He is a dickhead skeptic that says that ALL crop circles were done by humans. Ok, let him PROVE it by providing VIDEO evidence. When he PROVES that every single crop circle was done by humans and USING VIDEO EVIDENCE, then we can all believe him. But I guess he won't be able to do that because he is astupidmoron like his name says... what a TROLL !

[OPENYOUREYESFFS]

@Fractalfriend, I wouldn't pay too much attention to @youstupidmoron because he is a compulsive TROLL and has shit for brains. I suggest that you remove his posts and ban him from posting on your video, just like everyone else has. Look at his history and you will see what I mean.

[youstupidmoron]

By the way soldog, my questions do prove they are all man made, thats why none of you poor ignorant believers answer them! Go ahead, answer them! I'll wait! I will check later!

[youstupidmoron]

No farmer or anyone else has ever found a crop circle of any large size to be made in an hour, certainly a small one could be made in such time but not a large one because people make ALL crop circles. There is no incredible "complex geometry" used in ANY crop circle, it's not needed, they are simply measurements, not calculations! You really are ignorant.

[youstupidmoron]

Instead of repeating crap you have read or seen in a silly YouTube video, why don't you supply some REAL independent lab work, lab work that would ABSOLUTELY have to exist to find such "cellular change"? Where are the photos of crop circles before 1970? You are aware that cameras existed back then, certainly a crop circle back then would have merited a photo! You have been fooled!

[youstupidmoron]

@soldog you are gullible! First, I spend about 15 minutes a day on YouTube while waiting for a flight or meeting, 2nd, there is no "cellular change" in ANY crop circle, it's never happened! 3rd, there were no circles before 1970s, let's see a picture! You wont find any! 4th, no circle has ever had no broken stems! Let's see the independent lab work that would have to exist to find such anomalies!

[youstupidmoron]

The only people who think they aren't man made are people like you, people who have no idea what they are talking about. Why don't you answer the questions I posed below? Tell me why they aren't made in a natural field without tractor lines? Why isn't there a single independent lab report to support the idiotic claims made by so called "researchers"? Let's hear it! You claim to have done so much "research"!

[youstupidmoron]

Well you would be wrong! I spent 15 years making crop circles, up until 2006, my former partners are still at it. I am talking about the ones you think can't be made by people. By the way, many are made over a few days, many in broad daylight. You poor believers actually think all fields are surrounded by people, many are so far away our circles would have been seen if we didn't tell people about them.

[youstupidmoron]

You want so badly to believe aliens make them that you abandoned all common sense! You don't think things through, you dont even consider how idiotic the claims you hear about aliens making crop circles are! Look for one made before 1970, look for an independent lab report to support silly "researchers" claims! Look for one made in a natural field without tractor lines, look for one made in any soft surface that would show trails and footprints! You will NOT find ANY! Sorry, they're all man made

[MrPhenomenon1]

@youstupidmoron you probably havnt even been to a crop circle to see the complexity of the weaving of the crop! i have,the first one i saw left me in no doubt that it could not have been done by men in a short space of time as proposed by the "plank of wood" theory.an intelligent human first investigates a topic before having an opinion about it! i propose that you sir have have spent most of your adult life sat in an armchair "choking your chicken" instead of doing some research!

[soldog]

@youstupidmoron

There are reports of circle in crops during WWII in both Britian and Germany, both sides thought it was the work of each others enemy. So, yes, that is before 1970. Did you make those too? Also, there are reports/interviews from people/farmers who walked through a field in the early morning, then returned back through that field an hour later to find a large crop circle imprinted. Doesn't sound like days to me.

Prove your man made theory with facts, not questions.

[youstupidmoron]

Why do you think they are ALL made in crops, not natural fields! Because people make all of them and use the tractor lines to get around without leaving a trail. They are all made over night either, some are made over a couple days! Crop aren't surrounded by farmhouses, many fields are so far away from people they would never be seen unless we tipped people off that we made a circle in them! You don't have a clue what you're talking about! You fall for absolute lies and myths!

[youstupidmoron]

The fact is they are all man made and always have been. Those self titled "researchers" have fooled you! As I said, ask them where you can see a copy of the independent lab work they would have to have in order to discover the anomalies they lie about, they won't have even one! It's completely illogical to claim aliens make any! In fact it's ridiculous! They are all man made.

[youstupidmoron]

I don't care who you have spoken with! They are all man made. To say aliens made them is ridiculous! We have had people come out to ours circles the next day and say they saw aliens shooting lasers out of flying saucers at the field! We have had "researchers" claim to find "exploded nodes" and "high radiation levels" in our circles! They lie through their teeth! They are absolutely ALL man made.

[youstupidmoron]

You are just like people in the dark ages, they blamed the supernatural every time someone got sick because they didn't understand a simple virus, you blame the supernatural for crop circles because you're not smart enough to figure out how people make them! I know it's hard for you to understand but they are ALL man made.

[Fractalfriend]

@youstupidmoron Hogwash! I've spoken to too many people both in the U.S. and other locations who've seen them in vicinity of UFOs. Just because people make lots of them doesn't mean they are all made that way. It's not logical to say something like that. Especially since we have witnesses to the contrary.

[soldog]

@youstupidmoron

You are incorrect. Man made crop circle don't exhibit cellular changes of the crops that have been imprinted upon. Furthermore, the crops are bent, without breaking their tissue/structure, and are alive. Moreover, there are some crop circle "ghosts", which are crop circles that show up months later in the same spot as the previous imprint, after the initial one has been harvested and plowed. Lastly, I ask you to try to make one, even a simple one, and time how long it takes.

[TheOneAndOnlyMichel]

@youstupidmoron bad attempt at trolling, Fractalfriend was kind enough to take the time to provide the answers, not because he probably feld it was useful for you personally, but because of all the people who will read your words and ARE capable of expanding, because they're willing to do so. You should try contemplation and meditation for a while to find out your true self and bring liberation instead of keeping limitations upon yourself. You, sir, are a dinosaur, its time to evolve :)

[Fractalfriend]

@youstupidmoron I'm not saying it's supernatural. We're talking science here.

At one time, people didn't believe in electricity or radio waves either. It's

all just "supernatural." As Robert Heinlein said, the "science fiction of today

is the science of tomorrow." In other words, stop believing that the Earth is flat.

It isn't.

[MrPhenomenon1]

@youstupidmoron you have no idea you muppet

[youstupidmoron]

Hilarious! Let's see those crop circles in natural fields! I'll be waiting right here! There is no way I am going to buy a book from the same people that fooled you into thinking there is a mystery behind crop circles! I know exactly how they are made, I know everything about them! I spent 15 years until 2008 making the ones you think turn cameras off and have anomalies! Grow up!

[Fractalfriend]

@youstupidmoron Which ones did you make? Can you prove it? And who made them before you did?

[soldog]

@youstupidmoron

Funny. You would spend HOURS on youtube claiming to have made crop circles and calling people idiots, but you won't spend 10 euro/dollars/pounds to buy a book that proves otherwise.

So, tell us how did you change the cellular structure of the plants? Which ones and what dates did you produce your circles. How did you come up with the complex geometry? Please, we all want to know your secrets. Maybe you could write a book about it and sell it to all those disbelievers.

[danny3571]

This is an experiment to see how gullible people can be...

[youstupidmoron]

Hvkwvdub, there are ALWAYS footprints around crop circles, there are also ALWAYS tractor lines in EVERY crop circle field that make it easy to get in and out of the field without leaving a trail. Tell me, why are all crop circles made in fields with tractor lines, never in a natural field? They are all man made.

[Fractalfriend]

@youstupidmoron Wrong. Read The Secret History of Crop Circles by Terry Wilson for examples in other countries where the fields don't have tractor lines.

[youstupidmoron]

If it were found that any crop circle was not man made it would be the biggest, most important discovery in the history of man. There would be thousands of scientists racing to discover what energy could manipulate plants without human intervention, why is this not happening? Why are no scientists even interested in them? Because they know the fact that they are all man made.

[Fractalfriend]

@youstupidmoron No. It's for the same reason the Pope refused to look through Galileo's telescope. Sometimes it's convenient to keep your blinders on.

[youstupidmoron]

Eugene , there has never been ANY anomalies in any crop circle, you have been fooled by myth. You can look all you want and will never find even one independant lab report to support your claims, they simply do not exist! As a matter of fact those "researchers" actually refuse to let any science or lab test their claims, they know they will be proven frauds!

[Fractalfriend]

@youstupidmoron Wrong, we've seen repeated instances of battery and camera failure in crop circles as have numerous film crews. Example, the National Geographic Channel TV crew we were with in 2009. Their batteries were just gone, poof, and they couldn't explain it. Never happened before. And then their camera wouldn't restart.

[youstupidmoron]

There are no such real documents anywhere that state such things, as a matter of fact one idiot got caught faking such documents and even had them published in a magazine, too bad it was found out that they were fraudulent and the Magazine even printed a retraction! They are all man made.

[youstupidmoron]

Circlemakers are honestly surprised that anyone would even consider aliens make them, after all, why would anyone think such a silly thing in the first place? There has never been any reason to even imagine aliens make them, people admit to making them and have been caught making them. Like I said, it's the believers themselves that make up all the silly alien stories!

[youstupidmoron]

If you want to see video, there are many! In fact National Geographic just had a new video of 4 guys making a large, complex circle at night, in four hours. They taped the entire thing with night vision cameras. Part of the draw of making crop circles is the anonymity, surprising people with ever more complex designs. I can only think of one that implied aliens, even it was obviously man made.

[youstupidmoron]

First of all, the only people who imply that crop circles are made by aliens are the believers and so called "researchers", the circlemakers themselves do not. In fact we have even told those believers and researchers how we made them! They call us "dis informers". If you want to be upset with someone, blame the idiots who make up all the lies about "anomalies" and "balls of light" that do NOT exist.

[youstupidmoron]

Because I have made circles that you believers say are made by aliens, I know many, MANY other people who make them as well. Ofcoarse I can say they are all man made, it's not generalizing, it's stating a known fact. I know you want to believe little green men run around in fields to make art but it isn't happening.

[youstupidmoron]

Fezzapa, you are a perfect example of a believer, believers are just like people in the dark ages, they couldn't understand or figure out bacteria and viruses so they blamed illness on the supernatural or witches. Believers can't understand how people make crop circles so they blame them on the supernatural or aliens! Believers also WANT to believe aliens make them!

[Fractalfriend]

How do you know who makes them? Are you out there every night? Do REALLY know what's going on with every single crop circle? If not, how can you generalize so easily?

[WWtuts]

@Fractalfriend I do crop circles with some mates sometimes...

Perfect Proof! Ha

[oKaBlaaMo]

@Fractalfriend

because they have earthly shapes and the shapes people have of aliens and a lot of people have said that theyve made the cropcircles for making belevers like you crazy or just as a hobby

[subatomicculture]

@youstupidmoron Which crop circles have you made? I'm interested. Do you have photos or any documentation?

I'm pretty open either way on the subject and documentation of forming a complex one would put the whole thing to rest.

One thing that bothers me about crop circles- do you guys enjoy watching others jump to conclusions about your work and then laugh at them. You know others will think it paranormal so why not make it clearer. Isn't there enough bullshit in the world? Why add to it?

[eugenepanitchev]

@youstupidmoron... Uhh, peer-reviewed scientific documents speak of substances, such as powdery deposits, that are sometimes found on the plants and soil inside crop circles. They include silicon dioxide, magnesium oxide, and magnetite. The latter may be meteoric dust, which is constantly drifting down through the atmosphere to the earths surface; the concentration in circles is up to 600 times higher than the normal value, indicating the presence of strong magnetic fields around crop circles."

[hvkwvdub]

@youstupidmoron so how do you explain the lack of footprints leading to or from the site?

[youstupidmoron]

The government does not give a crap about crop circles, they, like any other normal person knows they are all man made, there has never been a reason to even imagine they are not! Only people who make up stories to explain what they themselves can't figure out. All crop circles are man made, that's all there is to it.

[youstupidmoron]

Fezzappa, what I am doing is telling people the truth! What you and people like you do is tell people about myths you have heard that are baseless and have zero science to back them up. You hear a story and take it as fact even though you have never seen even one independant lab report! You spread these myths and fool others into believing them as well.

[youstupidmoron]

Please present your data that shows anomalies in crop circles, not from conspiracy theory websites but from real scientific labs, you won't be able to find any.

[youstupidmoron]

You are a perfect example of a "believer" you fall for every myth you hear even though there is no science to back it up! Hysterical !

[youstupidmoron]

Fezzapa, you are hilarious! Like I said, show me just one independant lab report that backs up any claims of "anomalies" in crop circles! You won't find any because none exist! You have obviously never done any research other than conspiracy theory websites that do not use any real lab work. Go fantasize about some other "mystery"

[AceOfHeart2012]

I believe that the focus should be on the message rather than the messenger because regardless of who's is making these, we won't know until we know. We need to figure out what they're trying to tell us. I think we we need to view them from a 3 Dimensional standpoint. In the crop fields they are 2D. Flat. I think they're meant to be viewed from a 3D standpoint. That's what's missing in the study of this phenomena. They're 2D depictions of 3D modalities. Find that and they'll make more sense.

[HYNEKH68]

no evidence for your theories is provided, doctor ???, beware research your information more carefully before you lead people into disillusion, i am in australia and will not disclose to anyone what i have seen until im sure of what i saw, but i can tell u this , start again from scratch and look at the new evidence provided, i will reveal my evidence asap but first i must make sure all my information is verified and correct, something incredible for all humans to see

[vshart]

so pitty the sound is so bad

[milfman21]

your wrong

[youstupidmoron]

I know you wish I were wrong but I am not, I in fact make crop circles and have for years so I know what I am talking about! I'm talking about the ones shown on YouTube that are said to be made by "aliens". They are ALL man made, that is an absolute fact. There has never even been a reason to imagine "aliens" make them. To think little green men from outer space come to Earth to bend over plants is very immature and extremely laughable! I cant imagine being naive enough to think that!

[silverblue73]

prove it

[youstupidmoron]

Prove what? It's already a common fact! Asking me to prove crop circles are man made is like asking me to prove houses are man made, you would have to be retarded to think they are not man made!

[TimingIsEvrytng]

@youstupidmoron u still stand by this?

[youstupidmoron]

Well of coarse! They are ndeed all man made.

[TimingIsEvrytng]

how? those wood boards? impossible. 1 fake = all fake eh? real ones and faked are made differently

[youstupidmoron]

Who told you it was impossible? How many times have you tried to make one? How can you come to that conclusion since you have never tried it? The only difference between any crop circle is the skill level of the people making them. The lousy ones, the ones you think are the only man made ones are made by beginners, people with less experience, the nice, large, complex circles are done by people with lots of experience, lots of skill and talent, that is the only difference. They are all man made.

[TimingIsEvrytng]

the radiation. magnetism. bent straws not broken. i dont like argue, got my belief. more into what the crop circles mean

[youstupidmoron]

There is no radiation, do you think the farmers would be allowed to harvest radioactive crops? All the crop circle is harvested. There is no magnetism either, and there certainly has never been a crop circle with all bent stalks that none broken! That is all myth! None of that stuff has EVER happened. Next time you hear someone tell you that garbage ask them for the lab report that they would certainly have to have to prove all that "magnetism and radiation" garbage. They wont have any!

[TimingIsEvrytng]

ok. our lives are to different. i dont want this argue. forget i ever said a word

[youstupidmoron]

I'm not arguing, I am simply telling you the truth. Having different lives has nothing to do with the fact that all crop circles are man made, they simply are! Did you ask for some lab reports yet? Dont let those so called "researchers" fool you! Ask them to prove their claims about "magnetism, radiation, no stalks being bent" They wont be able to! Can you imagine being the guy who looked at millions of stalks to see if they were all bent, not broken? He must have a sore back!

[fezzappa]

and please present all the data,you have collected from you're research- please show us all the reports you have read on how they are all fake- the men in power,have been hiding many things that would fit the category of'biggest discovery" in history-

to act like everything is disclosed to the people may be the funniest thing i ever heard- sorry my friend but many many things are kept from the "people" crop circles are just one of them-the world is not what it appears to be-accept it or not

[fezzappa]

and where have all of you're facts come from?

soil itself is fertilized with chemicals- and farmers sure sell that shit....being a skeptic is fine- but you present no factual information-

who knows,maybe you are a professional debunker....have you been to every site? do you have reports that state no radiation? what you are doing,is exactly what every debunker does- makes things look foolish,with no real Backing or facts-spread an opposite opinion to get others not to believe-present facts-

[youstupidmoron]

If crop circles were found to not be entirely man made it would be the biggest discovery in human history! There would be thousands of scientists trying to discover what force could manipulate crops without human intervention, even agricultural machine manufacturers would be trying to discover how to exploit what ever force could manipulate crops without people, they would make a fortune! NONE of that is happening. Sorry, they are ALL man made, that is the absolute truth

[fezzappa]

you are the perfect example of a debunker-you have no proof or any factually info- you just say...it's the truth or it is a fact...show us all the research you have done my friend- zero

you act like the governments across the globe tell the people everything- thats quite funny and by the way ,very far from this truth you say you speak-

go debunk something else

[pamaspamas]

may not be as such a "good lovey new-age lah lah land" thing as we think it is. perhaps it's not a "good" thing after all.

[ArielleMorningstar]

How very fascinating. I do hope it's extraterrestrials and not just our selves remote influencing making them. What if it's some aspects of our local citizen's mind field making them? Especially those of us interactive with orbs by nature. You can focus in state" intense day dream a question and get the answer in the crop circle you already held in thought. Is it just "us" answering ourselves?What a wonderful job to have studying these. Thanks for the videos.