Round Table Discussions: Benjamin, Burke, TNA, ROH, & Cena

[NickThaGreatOne]

..wow.. u guys need lyves

[NickThaGreatOne]

lives*

[JukoDDT]

was brock lesnar charismatic? was lashley charismatic? no. look what they got. title shots and promotions.

[NiceVideos11]

Umm, wait wait wait... wasn't it moralvirus who said that Bret Hart was overrated???? Yeah, I'll get my wrestling fix somewhere else thanks.

[hitman2027]

someone farted on 05:43 lol

[TNAbusinessman]

TNA has good storylines.

[moralvirus]

No they don't. End of discussion.

[TNAbusinessman]

Yes they do. End of discussion.

[moralvirus]

No, they really fucking don't. If TNA had good storylines, I'm sure more people wouldn't be complaining about the direction of the fucking product and the heavy focus away from the wrestling.

[TNAbusinessman]

I don't care what people are complaining about. People like Ryan Byers are ignorant and continue to ignore the awesome storylines from TNA. Look at Joe/Angle Hard justice build= awesome look at Cage/Joe build= awesome look at Sting/Angle build= awesome. In Tna ther story is about 2 men who want to be the best. Simple booking.

[moralvirus]

The Angle/Joe build for Hard Justice was awesome? I'm sorry, but leading into that fucking match it felt more like TNA was building up to Kurt vs. Karen at that fucking pay-per-view! Joe was an after thought for that build. Not only that, but the roles seemed to switch up, if anything - Joe being the abusive, manipulative heel and Angle being the sympathetic face whose losing it all. It was DUMB! It was beyond dumb! It didn't help the pay-per-view in any sense of the word.

[dxtmnt]

same shit happened at wrestlemania x8

hhh and jericho feud was really more hhh vs stephanie

[moralvirus]

The Cage/Joe build was okay - at least that had a direction and focus to their match and wasn't detracted by other situations. That was simple booking about two men fighting to see who was the better man and who was the rightful man to be in line for the next title shot, more so than the Angle/Joe Hard Justice build. It could have been better, but for what it was it was actually worth watching. Can't say the same about the other Angle related examples you provided.

[moralvirus]

And here's where you destroy your own argument: Sting/Angle was all about personal issues. Sting "hitting" Karen, and Kurt attacking Sting's son. If you think that was about 2 men fighting to showcase they're the best and most deserving to be champion, you're a fucking dunce. The story there was also NOT original, as they done this shit ONE YEAR AGO IN TNA! The only thing different was the roles: Kurt was now playing the role of Jeff Jarrett. End of discussion.

[AJStylesFan231]

true that dude TNA doesnt have good storylines and this is coming from a tna fan i agree what u said they just need to work on storylines more & get better bookers like cornnette or idk someone esle lol..

but yeah like these reviews man =]

[armandroh666]

as for the MCMG, well Mike basicly already said what I was gonna say anyway, allthough Shelley's better on his own

[armandroh666]

Is Shelton a good wrestler? yes, but Charlie Haas is underrated, & really Haas >> Benjamin (though I'm a fan of both)

[bigkon420]

me i personally thought he was going to be a world champ back in ovw which is weird because i can't get my cable provider to get the roh payperview deal and ovw comes on the little rinky dink upstart channel that doen't even have a network backer have on my cable i am just glad said channel shows iwa

[SumBoddySDC]

Shelton has continously cost himself during his career from not improving where he needs to and coming off as lazy. However, I really disagree when it comes to Burke. He first caught my attention when he was the 'mouthpiece' for Sylvester Terkay. He's athletic. He can definitely talk. And he's shown signs of pulling off good, psychological matches. He's everything Benjamin wishes he could be with none of the stories of laziness.

[MFerV2]

Really good stuff guys.

[IKnowsWrestling]

And I have some friends of friends of those in the business and I know full well that most of the undercarders or X division or jobbers as I like to call them only make in the mid-hundreds of dollars per taping or appearance to low thousands.  Same guys also have to cover their own travel and hotel expenses.

[IKnowsWrestling]

I disagree about Benjamin and Burke... I was on and off watching the E for a few years, I caught his one win over Triple H but he impressed me after that match...it wasn't about HHH giving him a half-assed rub. Burke something similar is happening with, he's getting mic time and all that shit but he'll get a small push for a month or two and then be tossed to the side. I do think Burke should be pushed, he can talk and he can perform decently. Everybody deserves a chance. I'm not some follower

[kyotanahashi]

these skype chats are awesome...Crazy Mike is the star

[lightning116]

Mike, I must say this.

I like Shelton Benjamin and I like Elijah Burke. The thing is, I'd rather see them developed more on ECW where they belong before putting them in a position when they are clearly not ready for it yet. We already had Brock Lesnar and Bobby Lashley thrown at us too soon. Why do the same thing to Benjamin and Burke?

[lightning116]

Burke and Benjamin can be the most awesome wrestlers and what not. People keep forgetting that the WWE is a BUSINESS, and they have been for a very long time since McMahon JR took over.

When will people learn that in order for guys like Benjamin and Burke to become the champion, they need to be built in the midcard scene like.......like Booker was back in WCW. Like Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels before they became champion.

We are so spoiled that anyone who gets a reaction must be pushed.

[crazymike1706]

lightning116-Remember, Benjamin has been in the dog house for being lazy and having an attitude. Why put so much emotion into a guy that's not willing to put the same emotion into his fans, and his work? Again, I won't deny that he's a great athlete; however, he just doesn't have that star quality. If you ever get Skype I wouldn't mind having a discussion on this matter.

[CountCristo1987]

I think Virus has something with there for the future of Cena, Mesmiro and his abs of doom. Could be as big as Glacier.

[potmanbox]

crazymike really brings up great points

[crazymike1706]

potmanbox-Danke!