i dont get how people like this version better then the 2011 though! sure this one may have more direct lines from the book but it lacks real emotion, with this seen i didnt feel compelled to watch it like i did with the 2011 version. plus she looks WAY to old to play a girl of 18, and idk something is just missing from it, its not terrible but it's nothing like the other version
@KelseyCordle143 I think every Jane Eyre fan has a favorite version that speaks to them because every reader likes something different about the story. I think it is a matter of personal preference. I have not seen the 2011 version but some fans that have seen it don't like it. So far, this is my favorite even though I don't like everything about it. I love romance and I thought these actors had the best chemistry of all the versions I have seen.
IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN TIMOTHY DALTON AS MR ROCHESTER YOU HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING.TOBY IS SO UNFIT FOR THE ROLE.WATCH 1983 ADAPTATION AND YOU'LL BE ENCOUNTERED WITH THE MOST CONVINCING EDWARD ROCHESTER OF ALL TIMES
Rochester: I knew you’d do me good the first time I met you. I knew I wouldn’t mind
being in your debt.
Jane: There is no debt, sir. (moment of silent) There is no debt, sir.
Great actress!!!even if you can't see their faces, you can tell that Jane saw something in his eyes...with just a slight change in her face expression and in her tone... BRILLIANT!
Every time I watch this scene, I always scream "Kiss her! Kiss her! Kiss her! forget about the novel, just kiss her!!!" like a lunatic lol My dear God, the chemistry between Toby and Ruth always leaves me breathless
This is so sexy! I can't stop staring at the exposed skin at the back of his neck, his shoulders, chest, the way he bears down on her...that voice; low and husky with the weight of his restraint...
This. This right here. This is why I'm single!! They don't make 'em like that any more!
But God help me I would bang him like a screen door in a hurricane...*knuckle bite*
Gosh, Mr Rochester is SMOKIN HOT in that scene!!! Jane is very good at NOT forgetting to breathe haha... I just hope he doesn't sleep with his boots on lol...
Rochester is such a seductor in this scene. He takes every angle possible to get her to express her love for him in a way that gets through his low self-esteem.
HOT, HOT, & did I mention HOT!!! Quick! somebody call the fire department. Wait a minute, there's no second fire ... the heat is simply radiating off Mr. Rochester ... he's just SMOKING HOT in that shirt!! Well then, ask for the paramedics STAT because my heart rate has gone off the charts!! Rochester is so sexy and sweet. (sighs) Oh, might as well ask for the police too ... Mr. Rochester will need to file a restraining order against ME!!! lol
For the love of god Rochester, think of the poor girl´s health. You may give her a heart attack when you´re standing so close to her. At least my pulse would be through the roof :)
I defy Darcy to get so close! I can never watch the white shirt in Pride and Prejudice again after the one Toby's wearing in this scene, lol. ;-) Gooooorgeous....
My God,it's hot in there! Must be from the fire ... it's obvious she's inexperienced,she has no idea what to say or do.What a man...I know what I would do in Jane's shoes...but that's a different movie.
As much as I am obsessed with the beautiful novel Jane Eyre, I have to admit that I like this scene better than the book....because the book doesn't mention Rochester's shirt ;-D
Major kudos to Jane---I don't know how she left him ;-)
i must say that i think the book is so much better than this, admittedly i havent seen the film, and i myself am normally much more of a film lover than a book, but in comparison, i enjoyed reading that scene, a million times more than watching it!..
i must admit.. i have never seen the film, and i am normally much more of a film lover than a book lover, but from that scene, i do think that the book is verry much beter ! ..
The performances of Toby and Ruth in this scene have left a deep, unforgettable impression on me. His ability to express deepest emotions without saying a word, with his facial expressions and movements only amazes me. And Jane here is so shy and innocent, and at the same time you can perceive her deep emotion for him and her excitement because of being so close to him, the man she so sincerely loves.
I don't think so. I never thought about that in that way. i had an impression he only wanted to speak to her for a moment. And he doesn't seem drunk to me here. But Bronte says he had been drinking before going to bed.
this means he is confused coz one monet she saves his life (showing she cares) and then when he talks to her she keeps trying to run away (trying to pull her hand away) hope this ansered your question :)
***sighhhhhh*** this story is just beautiful! I kinda relate to it. the way Jane didn't care for Mr. Rochester's not-so-good looks... My boyfriend isn't that handsome, either, but I LOVE him like crazy!!!
How does she keep herself from grabbing his chest--she is a much more restrained girl than I! Why was he drinking himself into a stupor, if it wasn't because he was already pineing away for Jane! Toby is so much more expressive than Wm Hurt, TDalton or OWells--I have watched them all--and I agree that someone should have him play Heathcliff! Toby and Ruth are both excellent in their portrayals and bring new insights to the story.
I think female viewers are initially attracted to Rochester not because of appearance, but his behaviour. The mysterious, gruff side of him rubs off quickly revealing an attractive soft side. Physical attractions are highlighted only after one falls in love with his behaviour.
To me it is not the mysterious and gruff behaviour that makes Mr. R. so intriguing. It is the behaviour he has when one cannot tell he is in jest or ernest. He has a lot of humour too, for example when he embraces the "bonnie wanderer". And he is so enigmatical during the second interview and I often feel just as puzzled as Jane.
Poor Jane, btw, he is a terrible tease - for instance in the garden when Mr. Mason has left; Calls her friend and simpleton and almost proposes to her.
And when she returns from Gateshead to Thornfield? He calls her, first, "truant" (= "Have you been with other men?!"); and then, "Janet" (= "I love you!")!
But... "poor Jane"?!? "Poor Eddie", you mean!!! Do you remember at the end how Jane/Sorcha smiles when she says to Eddie/Michael: "He [St. John] asked me to marry him"? That's cruel! That's really cruel!!!
Eddie was right, after all: the wickedness hadn't been taken out of her, wherever she had sojourned!...
And yet Rochester is a "gentleman" and "good and kind master", who cares for Adèle (hiring her a governess, giving her "sa boite").
I gather what is the most intriguing thing about Rochester at the beginning for the female viewer is that he treats Jane not "as an inferior" (a governess) but as an equal (a woman). He makes her exchange wits with him ("the penknife"), he "mentally shakes hands" with her, he wants her to be "natural" with him, he makes her confidences...
Rochester treats Jane not "as an inferior" (just a governess) but as an equal (a woman); and she answers him back the right way, by treating him not as "as a superior" (just a boss) but as an equal (a man).
Of course, Im thinking of "equality" not in a mere social sense but in a spiritual or moral sense: the sense we find in Janes "equal as we are [at Gods feet]" and Rochesters "my equal and my likeness". For me, this "equality" is crucial to fully understand both characters.
I think the answer to that is given by Rochester himself in chapter XXVII of the novel ("On a frosty winter afternoon [...]").
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The way I read it, what makes Jane attractive to Rochester at the beginning is, in the first place, her genuine care for her fellow neighbour ("[...] it stood by me with strange perseverance [...] and a sort of authority [...]").
Next, its her good common sense and shrewdness ("There was much sense in your smile: it was very shrewd [...]").
Its also her wit ("[...] when addressed, you lifted a keen, a daring, and a glowing eye [...]; there was penetration and power in each glance you gave; when plied by close questions, you found ready and round answers.").
Last but not the least, its what Rochester sees in her "at intervals, a vivid restless soul, now caged about with closed set bars; but, were it set free, it would soar cloud high" (Chapman).
About Toby Stephens being too good looking to play Rochester, I differ. Of course I think he's handsome, actually I think he's gorgeous but I don't think he would have been "a model of a fashionable man" in those times. If I'm not mistaken, blonde, pale and fragile looking men were "in fashion". Rochester would be the total opposite.
So, in that sense, I think the casting wasn't off. The fact that this Rochester could be considered nowadays an extremely attractive middleaged man does not hurt either.
Besides the appearance, the acting is superb. Toby Stephens can express so much many emotions in his face or body language with no need to talk. He is an excellent actor.
I completely agree! He's quite as Charlotte Bronte describes him. He's completely perfect for the role, likewise Ruth Wilson - she makes an absolutely amazing Jane!! I love this version of Jane Eyre. Almost nothing significant is changed, and a lot of the dialogue is straight from the book. Not to mention the amazing chemistry...!!!
The chemistry was undoubtedly great. They were perfect as Jane and Rochester! Ruth could capture the essence of Jane. I think that the other "Janes" acted too much like nuns on the making! Of course Jane is supposed to be a moral character, innocent and proper, but that does not mean that she was apathetic. I don't know if I'm mistaken but when I read the book I concluded she was a passionate woman, you could tell from her answers to Rochester's taunts or in the proposal!
I must say I agree totally with you there. I didn't like the 1983 Jane because she was too prim and proper. Just as you said, Jane is moral,innocent and generous, but she is passionate too. So Ruth Willson is the PERFECT Jane for me!
And you can tell they tried to make him look a little rough around the edges(with the long dark hair and all) especially if you compare how he looks here to how he looks in his other films (lyk the great Gatsby).He's not as polished, but he still looks great i don't think there's anything they could do to make him look bad - he's so gorgeous !!
i luv this scene!toby stephens and ruth wilson are my fav jane and rochester couple and i like this script most. it flows. i was reading a comment and here's my opinion- rochester didnt seem interested in jane at first because i wanted to make sure the unknown woman to everyone was safely in her room. after removing the potential danger,his interest surfaced.they may have an age diff, but they look good 2gether :D
What has always bothered me about this scene is that he does not seem at all amazed, affected by her appearance or even really looks at her when the fire is put out, except when he tells her to leave. Then he suddenly shows interest.
i think its because hes preocupied with having to think up of a plausible excuse for there having been a fire! I think hes also just in shock, i mean he nearly burnt to death! then when he realises who saved him...well....as you say, he "shows interest"
When I first saw this on Masterpiece Theatre I was amazed. But after watching Timothy Dalton and Michael Jayston, watching Toby Stephens (although I love him dearly) leaves me feeling all cold and empty like.
this version is amazing but if you read the book then this adaptation is poor because of bad casting. Compare it to Robert Stevenson's 1944 version with Orson Welles and u will see wat I mean.
bad casting?what do you mean?i'm sorry but i think both toby stephens and ruth wilson made a great job...i can't say it's better than stevenson's version coz i never saw it but i scarcely believe there's a better rochester(yeah, i'm bias, indeed..)it wouldn't disturb me to see stevenson's one, but i think it would be a great job for mr.welles to make me forget toby stephens in edward's role!but your opinion does interest me!thanks for giving it!
I mean tht, and this is my opinion after extensive study of the novel at a-level and of the adaptations in th 1st yr of my degree, Rochester is meant 2 b essentially an ugly prick. Toby Stephens doesnt meet tht criteria whereas Welles does. Ruth Wilson is spot on tho as the strong-willed, plain-looking heroin.
and Rochester is anything but creepy! Granted, if you're talking about his acting, I can't comment (I've only seen parts of it), but honestly, he fits Rochester's physical description about the same as Toby Stephens. Neither of them look nothing like the dark, black-haired and black-eyed Rochester from the novel.
If we can leave the looks of Jane & Mr. Rochester out of the discussion and concentrate on the acting, this might turn out to be a quite interesting exchange of ideas and opinions. :-)
Remember what Jane replies when Mr. Rochester asks if she finds him handsome: "I ought to have replied that it was not easy to give an impromptu answer to a question about appearances; that tastes mostly differ; and that beauty is of little consequence, or something of that sort." (Chapter XIV)
This is such a tantalizing scene. The chemistry is hotter than the fire. When he swallows (mmmmm) and he along with everybody else gets to see there is a beauty about Jane. Loved it tooo much.
i am reading the book and i am in the part in which she left him after the wedding in church... i really wonder what happens then, so pliz stop me before i watch it here... gosh, it's so lovely... :) both Rochester and Jane...
I love this scene. Mr. Rochester is too sexy when he wraps her up and Jane is so cute after when she puts her hand to her lips. MAN I LOVE THIS MINI SERIES!
the thing I love the most about Rochester is that obssessive fear he has about Jane leaving him, lol, either it's for a week, a day, a few hours! he's the cutest thing=D
...and...I love man in those loose outfits also=D that image of Mr.Darcy walking out of the mist with his manly chest poping out of his pijama shirt is permanently engraved in my memory till the end of times, Rochester should come out of the mist also=D
And,he tells her "go back to bed" then when she starts to leave,he changes his mind in a hurry,says,"What are you going"?? I liked the way they work up to things,testing the waters because of their different stations in life.
Oddly this scene reminds me: given Jane is an independent young woman who advertises when she wants a new career position, and takes books from library shelves, she would have gone to the locked room and uncovered the mystery before she allowed Rochester to unlock her own doors--modern, assertive woman that she is. However, we all know that all literature has "shoot out the tires before the bus gets onto the freeway" moments, or else nothing would ever get created.
In the book, I think, it says that the fumes of the flames surrounded him so he was in a deep sleep because of the fumes and jane had to put loads and loads of water on him. so practically the wholeroom was swimming in water.
Love this scene. Her response to the close encounter with Roch-ie is so girlish and cute. Our first glimpse into how emotionally vulnerable she is to be to him. Very sweet but also sexy!
I liked Ciaran Hinds better, he was intense! But I've always hated the way he toys with her emotions. Imagine being the servant and knowing you couldn't have him. Super book, great movie!
wow. ..that was soooo intense. Seriously..Rochester really challenges Jane's resistence and constraint. That girl has strong morals...my favorite part is when she heads into her bedroom and kisses her hand, it's such a genuine reaction, it's how I would react if I were held by the person I was head over heels in love with.
It's pretty obvious that he's teasing her... Amazing scene, you can melt down easily. Don't know what I'd do with Toby Stephens that close to me (mmmm, probably...) :) Just love him - and what a fantastic character he's made out of Rochester!***
Mr. Rochester is not meant to be hot looking but he is meant to be attractive to Jane and to the audience. Hinds looked awful plus I could not handle is acting. So far wW. Hurt has captured the best Rochester and Charlotte Gains. the best Jane - Both in terms of how they would look visually.
Hurt looked neither handsome nor ugly - he just grows on you. Charlotte is not a head turner but cute enough to see something there.
I rented Jane Eyre and the Rochester dude in this video (the one I rented) looks very very old!!! hehe. I like this one though. Why is he wearing his Riding boots in bed?
It is suppossed that he is quite plenty of wine. Because of that he can't get awake when Jane wants to prevent him of the danger. And Jane must to water him to make him stand up.
In the book, Rochester had been drinking and fell asleep, hence did not wake up easily. Only the bed curtains were on fire, not the whole bed. She dowsed him so much because he wouldn't wake up to her voice. Hence, he may have crashed on the bed with his boots on because he passed out before undressing. My theory from the book, anyway. (a long time Jane Eyre fan)
I do not believe he had any boots on, because when Jane hears him coming back from the second storey, she tells us, the readers:
"I was on the point of risking Mr. Rochester's displeasure by disobeying his orders, when the light once more gleamed dimly on the gallery wall, and I heard his unshod feet tread the matting. 'I hope it is he,' thought I, 'and not something worse.'" (Chapter XV)
Then there is another question; How on earth could she HEAR "unshod feet tread the matting"?! :-)
Someone asked "why is Rochester wearing riding boots in bed?"! lol But seriously, the sparks between JE & EFR, begin to change color with this scene. Wonderful chemistry -- I can see how two people who are very similar in intelligence and feeling, yet very far apart in philosophy and honesty / deceitfulness, could fall for each other. :)
This was good, but I'm having problems with this Rochester- the man playing him is far too young and attractive (compared to how Rochester is supposed to be, that is). Anyone else think this?
The age is right: about 37. The hazel eyes are wrong, and he's not dark-skinned. But this Rochester's response to Jane's "paid subordinate" remark, instead of getting angry, he takes the mickey out of her, was a *wonderful* change. It established a different, warmer relationship. I loved it!
I think the lack of facial hair is what makes this Rochester *look* so young to me. Ciarán Hinds of the 1997 version had the sideburns and mustache which made him look as old as I had envisioned the character.
I thought the facial hair made Hinds look about 47! A man's 30s, it is said are the best years of his life; he still has strength and looks, but he also has experience and prestige on his side. 37 wasn't that old during the Victorian era. The longevity statistics of people in Victorian England was skewed because of all the women and children who died in childbirth. People have had the ability to live as long as we do now for thousands of years--as long as they could afford to eat enough.
OMG i just read the book, my Nana sent me for my birthday last week, and i just had to see what films or tv series they'd done, and OMG this looks so awsome, Rochester and Eyre are just perfect *SQUEEEEE*
The real fire was the fire set by Rochester/Jane. Amazing chemistry between the two leads and I cannot wait to see this on BBC America. Thanks for posting!
i dont get how people like this version better then the 2011 though! sure this one may have more direct lines from the book but it lacks real emotion, with this seen i didnt feel compelled to watch it like i did with the 2011 version. plus she looks WAY to old to play a girl of 18, and idk something is just missing from it, its not terrible but it's nothing like the other version
KelseyCordle143 1 month ago
@KelseyCordle143 I think every Jane Eyre fan has a favorite version that speaks to them because every reader likes something different about the story. I think it is a matter of personal preference. I have not seen the 2011 version but some fans that have seen it don't like it. So far, this is my favorite even though I don't like everything about it. I love romance and I thought these actors had the best chemistry of all the versions I have seen.
Lovebug8779 4 weeks ago
IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN TIMOTHY DALTON AS MR ROCHESTER YOU HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING.TOBY IS SO UNFIT FOR THE ROLE.WATCH 1983 ADAPTATION AND YOU'LL BE ENCOUNTERED WITH THE MOST CONVINCING EDWARD ROCHESTER OF ALL TIMES
annetekoul 3 months ago
oh my crom, need to put up me a/c, it should be THE LAW, every man should watch period dramas, there would be a lot less divorce
vuasprint 8 months ago
Rochester: I knew you’d do me good the first time I met you. I knew I wouldn’t mind
being in your debt.
Jane: There is no debt, sir. (moment of silent) There is no debt, sir.
Great actress!!!even if you can't see their faces, you can tell that Jane saw something in his eyes...with just a slight change in her face expression and in her tone... BRILLIANT!
Nik1013md 8 months ago
HE IS HOT OH HOW I WISH TO JANE SHE SO LUCKY.DID YOU KNOW MY MIDDLE NAME IS JANE TOO!
TheRaphlover 9 months ago
Every time I watch this scene, I always scream "Kiss her! Kiss her! Kiss her! forget about the novel, just kiss her!!!" like a lunatic lol My dear God, the chemistry between Toby and Ruth always leaves me breathless
cinamoroll07 10 months ago 4
JANE IS PRETTYYY NOT PLAINN!
iloveyou123123412345 10 months ago
This is so sexy! I can't stop staring at the exposed skin at the back of his neck, his shoulders, chest, the way he bears down on her...that voice; low and husky with the weight of his restraint...
This. This right here. This is why I'm single!! They don't make 'em like that any more!
But God help me I would bang him like a screen door in a hurricane...*knuckle bite*
Blacklaceandredlips 11 months ago 12
@Blacklaceandredlips
YOU ARE PREACHING TO THE CHOIR!!!! QUICK! SOMEONE HOES ME DOWN WITH ICE WATER BEFORE I COMBUST!!!!!
jarrodakelsaw 9 months ago 2
he should have left his shirt off!!!
imagine how much more intense that scene would have been w/ that little space between them ;)
janeEyreAddict 11 months ago
It might just be me, but it's kind of hard believing she walked out of that room a virgin. I'm just saying ;)
FullOfBleep 1 year ago 3
His profile is just...wow. Love this scene and this version, jane's so cute and Rochester is just amazing!!!
MissDinie16 1 year ago 2
She's so sweet
areyourunningaway 1 year ago
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"But...sir,I do not WANT to leave you."
princesskaroke 1 year ago
I LOVE THIS SCENE!!!! Bertha is a LUNATIC for ever giving him up...oh wait I forgot :D
101Witch101 1 year ago 7
IIIIIIII WOWZA!!!! That is hot!!!!!! I would be rooted to the spot if a man i loved/fancied done that to me :P. He is a very naughty man hehe
Lcplsexiiiking 1 year ago 6
Wow that was hot!he has such a husky voice!yuuuuuummmy
princesskaroke 1 year ago 2
Rochester at 0:40
"Wait here for me. Can you do that?"
Me: Mr. Rochester, I'll do anything you want. And I DO mean anything.
*giggle* Sorry about that ;)
Now this is what I call a man......Mrs. Stephens, wherever you are, I hate you with a passion that burns with the heat of a thousand suns. ^_^
KrisRochy 1 year ago 9
My fave scene!!!
shedmonds 1 year ago
Gosh, Mr Rochester is SMOKIN HOT in that scene!!! Jane is very good at NOT forgetting to breathe haha... I just hope he doesn't sleep with his boots on lol...
lespignonsverts 1 year ago 10
Ugh what a Tease!
jennystar81 1 year ago 8
Rochester is such a seductor in this scene. He takes every angle possible to get her to express her love for him in a way that gets through his low self-esteem.
Naughty, naughty.
quibily 2 years ago 20
i always thought this scene in the book was hilarious.
rochester: "return to your own room"
jane: "good-night, then , sir"
rochester: "what! he exclaimed. are you quitting me already?"
further down the page...
Jane: "good night again sir"
"what! you WILL go?"
he's so persistent lol
Popsicle789 2 years ago 15
"Ofcourse - ofcourse ... "
Its breaking my heart!!!
CCCok111 2 years ago 4
HOT, HOT, & did I mention HOT!!! Quick! somebody call the fire department. Wait a minute, there's no second fire ... the heat is simply radiating off Mr. Rochester ... he's just SMOKING HOT in that shirt!! Well then, ask for the paramedics STAT because my heart rate has gone off the charts!! Rochester is so sexy and sweet. (sighs) Oh, might as well ask for the police too ... Mr. Rochester will need to file a restraining order against ME!!! lol
BaVQL 2 years ago 19
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BaVQL 2 years ago
For the love of god Rochester, think of the poor girl´s health. You may give her a heart attack when you´re standing so close to her. At least my pulse would be through the roof :)
sverigetjejen1 2 years ago 18
I defy Darcy to get so close! I can never watch the white shirt in Pride and Prejudice again after the one Toby's wearing in this scene, lol. ;-) Gooooorgeous....
femmederochester 2 years ago 16
It is because he doesn't touch her except with that big coat, that the scene is soooo sexy
Thank you for posting
R
97531go 2 years ago 16
He would have to force me to leave..... by dragging me out the door!
maggietolliver 2 years ago 57
"Well if you must leave me.....you must."
I would NEVER leave you, Rochester!!!
IamKesyerSoze 2 years ago 18
3:00 All I can do is stare at the negative space between their faces and drool
mollymac44 2 years ago 61
I know! And when lets go of the coat, I let out a breath I didn't know I was holding. XD Love this scene so much!!
SailorPhantom 2 years ago 6
i love his voice and the way he speaks..
Ahhh..
wedadful 2 years ago 13
I'm just completely in love with this scene ! And yes, it's very hot in here ! Love Toby Stephens and Ruth Wilson. Greatest Rochester and Jane ever !
holylola 2 years ago 18
My God,it's hot in there! Must be from the fire ... it's obvious she's inexperienced,she has no idea what to say or do.What a man...I know what I would do in Jane's shoes...but that's a different movie.
gio73vanna 2 years ago 18
That naughty, naughy Rochester! Tempting her to go astray! I love it. :D
quibily 2 years ago 13
As much as I am obsessed with the beautiful novel Jane Eyre, I have to admit that I like this scene better than the book....because the book doesn't mention Rochester's shirt ;-D
Major kudos to Jane---I don't know how she left him ;-)
LeanaMcKie 2 years ago 13
when I first saw this scene I was on the edge of my seat, my mum and I were yelling 'KISS HER!' at the top of our lungs. it's so romantic!
vanillaskulldirector 2 years ago 14
This is a really hot scene ( in more ways than one). One of my favs, I've seen it 50 times at least!!!
moviegal66 3 years ago 2
i must say that i think the book is so much better than this, admittedly i havent seen the film, and i myself am normally much more of a film lover than a book, but in comparison, i enjoyed reading that scene, a million times more than watching it!..
pyratexgirli 3 years ago
The 1973 (my personal favourite) and the 1983 versions are the closest version to the book. I would have loved the 1973 script and these 2 actors
hnorthca 2 years ago
i must admit.. i have never seen the film, and i am normally much more of a film lover than a book lover, but from that scene, i do think that the book is verry much beter ! ..
pyratexgirli 3 years ago
it sort of like the book, but where is the action before jane save Mr.Rochester life?
nobody999nofunny 3 years ago
I LOVE THIS MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
robynn0405 3 years ago 4
The performances of Toby and Ruth in this scene have left a deep, unforgettable impression on me. His ability to express deepest emotions without saying a word, with his facial expressions and movements only amazes me. And Jane here is so shy and innocent, and at the same time you can perceive her deep emotion for him and her excitement because of being so close to him, the man she so sincerely loves.
corellithebest 3 years ago 11
I don't understand. He says: She tries to go. If you must leave me (...). What's going on?? Did he want to Jane stay with him for a night;D??
kasiappp111 3 years ago 2
I don't think so. I never thought about that in that way. i had an impression he only wanted to speak to her for a moment. And he doesn't seem drunk to me here. But Bronte says he had been drinking before going to bed.
corellithebest 3 years ago
this means he is confused coz one monet she saves his life (showing she cares) and then when he talks to her she keeps trying to run away (trying to pull her hand away) hope this ansered your question :)
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kittytv 3 years ago
I LOVE this part:)
MS x
mmhs20 3 years ago
This is such an amazing story!
Mr. Rochester looks gorgeous too lol :)
Roxy4Crow 3 years ago 4
***sighhhhhh*** this story is just beautiful! I kinda relate to it. the way Jane didn't care for Mr. Rochester's not-so-good looks... My boyfriend isn't that handsome, either, but I LOVE him like crazy!!!
JEROyROSA 3 years ago 3
I actually think that Mr. Rochester is very handsome in this scene.. but maybe that's just me. :)
MegannnFTW 3 years ago 6
hehhe i lurrrrve itttta
bexlovesashley 3 years ago
My favorite version of the movie!!! This scene was AMAZINGLY done, the sexual tension between the two was perfect... *shivers* I love it!
sookala 3 years ago 4
It's one of my favourite scenes! Thank you very much for posting this.
julia59 3 years ago 29
You are very welcome!
mamalobagris 3 years ago
That is what attracts me to the character of
Mr. Rochester, that he is very passionet and I think Toby portrays that very well.
egtprc 3 years ago 6
How does she keep herself from grabbing his chest--she is a much more restrained girl than I! Why was he drinking himself into a stupor, if it wasn't because he was already pineing away for Jane! Toby is so much more expressive than Wm Hurt, TDalton or OWells--I have watched them all--and I agree that someone should have him play Heathcliff! Toby and Ruth are both excellent in their portrayals and bring new insights to the story.
belairbooklover 3 years ago 6
I think female viewers are initially attracted to Rochester not because of appearance, but his behaviour. The mysterious, gruff side of him rubs off quickly revealing an attractive soft side. Physical attractions are highlighted only after one falls in love with his behaviour.
rhindonwielder 3 years ago 6
rhindonwielder,
To me it is not the mysterious and gruff behaviour that makes Mr. R. so intriguing. It is the behaviour he has when one cannot tell he is in jest or ernest. He has a lot of humour too, for example when he embraces the "bonnie wanderer". And he is so enigmatical during the second interview and I often feel just as puzzled as Jane.
Poor Jane, btw, he is a terrible tease - for instance in the garden when Mr. Mason has left; Calls her friend and simpleton and almost proposes to her.
domramalaja 3 years ago 4
And when she returns from Gateshead to Thornfield? He calls her, first, "truant" (= "Have you been with other men?!"); and then, "Janet" (= "I love you!")!
But... "poor Jane"?!? "Poor Eddie", you mean!!! Do you remember at the end how Jane/Sorcha smiles when she says to Eddie/Michael: "He [St. John] asked me to marry him"? That's cruel! That's really cruel!!!
Eddie was right, after all: the wickedness hadn't been taken out of her, wherever she had sojourned!...
mendoncacorreia 3 years ago
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And yet Rochester is a "gentleman" and "good and kind master", who cares for Adèle (hiring her a governess, giving her "sa boite").
I gather what is the most intriguing thing about Rochester at the beginning for the female viewer is that he treats Jane not "as an inferior" (a governess) but as an equal (a woman). He makes her exchange wits with him ("the penknife"), he "mentally shakes hands" with her, he wants her to be "natural" with him, he makes her confidences...
Am I wrong?
mendoncacorreia 3 years ago 2
No, you are on not wrong. Those are also things that are attractive.
But let us discuss the other way around. What is it that makes Jane attractive to Mr. Rochester?
Is it that she dares to answer him back - starting with "The men in green all forsook England a hundred years ago"?
domramalaja 3 years ago
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Rochester treats Jane not "as an inferior" (just a governess) but as an equal (a woman); and she answers him back the right way, by treating him not as "as a superior" (just a boss) but as an equal (a man).
Of course, Im thinking of "equality" not in a mere social sense but in a spiritual or moral sense: the sense we find in Janes "equal as we are [at Gods feet]" and Rochesters "my equal and my likeness". For me, this "equality" is crucial to fully understand both characters.
mendoncacorreia 3 years ago 3
I'm not sure a man (as I am) can give a proper answer to that question about Rochester instead of a woman...
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Anyway, it seems to me that what really intrigues the female viewer at first is, after all, what intrigues Jane: it's Rochester's character.
Rochester doesn't seem a good man, "and yet..." (chapter XIV).
mendoncacorreia 3 years ago
I think the answer to that is given by Rochester himself in chapter XXVII of the novel ("On a frosty winter afternoon [...]").
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The way I read it, what makes Jane attractive to Rochester at the beginning is, in the first place, her genuine care for her fellow neighbour ("[...] it stood by me with strange perseverance [...] and a sort of authority [...]").
Next, its her good common sense and shrewdness ("There was much sense in your smile: it was very shrewd [...]").
mendoncacorreia 3 years ago
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Its also her wit ("[...] when addressed, you lifted a keen, a daring, and a glowing eye [...]; there was penetration and power in each glance you gave; when plied by close questions, you found ready and round answers.").
Last but not the least, its what Rochester sees in her "at intervals, a vivid restless soul, now caged about with closed set bars; but, were it set free, it would soar cloud high" (Chapman).
mendoncacorreia 3 years ago
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IloveSirLancelot 3 years ago
About Toby Stephens being too good looking to play Rochester, I differ. Of course I think he's handsome, actually I think he's gorgeous but I don't think he would have been "a model of a fashionable man" in those times. If I'm not mistaken, blonde, pale and fragile looking men were "in fashion". Rochester would be the total opposite.
Meny20 3 years ago 11
So, in that sense, I think the casting wasn't off. The fact that this Rochester could be considered nowadays an extremely attractive middleaged man does not hurt either.
Besides the appearance, the acting is superb. Toby Stephens can express so much many emotions in his face or body language with no need to talk. He is an excellent actor.
Meny20 3 years ago 19
Exactly. Precisely.
mamalobagris 3 years ago 2
I'm glad to know you agree! Thank you for the video! It's one of my favorite takes :)
Meny20 3 years ago 2
You are very welcome. It is one of my favorites too.
mamalobagris 3 years ago
I completely agree! He's quite as Charlotte Bronte describes him. He's completely perfect for the role, likewise Ruth Wilson - she makes an absolutely amazing Jane!! I love this version of Jane Eyre. Almost nothing significant is changed, and a lot of the dialogue is straight from the book. Not to mention the amazing chemistry...!!!
IloveSirLancelot 3 years ago 4
The chemistry was undoubtedly great. They were perfect as Jane and Rochester! Ruth could capture the essence of Jane. I think that the other "Janes" acted too much like nuns on the making! Of course Jane is supposed to be a moral character, innocent and proper, but that does not mean that she was apathetic. I don't know if I'm mistaken but when I read the book I concluded she was a passionate woman, you could tell from her answers to Rochester's taunts or in the proposal!
Meny20 3 years ago 6
Yeah, I agree, I would definitely say she's passionate! And that's a great way to describe it - the other "Janes" did act like nuns. :)
IloveSirLancelot 3 years ago 2
....Didn't Rochester describe Jane herself as being like a nun? -_-;;
Fujikorific 3 years ago
Well, yes, but I think (given the context) he was exaggerating to make a point.
IloveSirLancelot 3 years ago
I must say I agree totally with you there. I didn't like the 1983 Jane because she was too prim and proper. Just as you said, Jane is moral,innocent and generous, but she is passionate too. So Ruth Willson is the PERFECT Jane for me!
corellithebest 3 years ago 6
I'm glad to know you agree! :)
Meny20 3 years ago
And you can tell they tried to make him look a little rough around the edges(with the long dark hair and all) especially if you compare how he looks here to how he looks in his other films (lyk the great Gatsby).He's not as polished, but he still looks great i don't think there's anything they could do to make him look bad - he's so gorgeous !!
IHEARTCLARK 3 years ago 5
I completely agree!
Meny20 3 years ago
it´s such an intense scene!!even without kissing so passionate...
hamelofca 3 years ago 3
i luv this scene!toby stephens and ruth wilson are my fav jane and rochester couple and i like this script most. it flows. i was reading a comment and here's my opinion- rochester didnt seem interested in jane at first because i wanted to make sure the unknown woman to everyone was safely in her room. after removing the potential danger,his interest surfaced.they may have an age diff, but they look good 2gether :D
sdragonrider 3 years ago 2
I can see why you like it so much. Do you know where I can get the movie? I really want to see it!
SnapeHermioneshipper 3 years ago
go onto to amazon or the bbc website or any shop that sells dvd's and order it!trust me, its well worth it, you love it!
240585birthday 3 years ago
I just ordered it from walmart myself along with the book too.. canNOT wait to get them :)
skeeter2874 3 years ago
What has always bothered me about this scene is that he does not seem at all amazed, affected by her appearance or even really looks at her when the fire is put out, except when he tells her to leave. Then he suddenly shows interest.
desertann 3 years ago
i think its because hes preocupied with having to think up of a plausible excuse for there having been a fire! I think hes also just in shock, i mean he nearly burnt to death! then when he realises who saved him...well....as you say, he "shows interest"
240585birthday 3 years ago
When I first saw this on Masterpiece Theatre I was amazed. But after watching Timothy Dalton and Michael Jayston, watching Toby Stephens (although I love him dearly) leaves me feeling all cold and empty like.
jajaeeyore93 3 years ago
jajaeeyore93,
Very well put! I have had the same experience myself.
domramalaja 3 years ago
to tell truth i like the 1996 version better..even thou this version does try...it feels too modern for my liking
nessacheng 3 years ago
OH MY GOD. This scene is sooooooo amazing.
"well, if you must leave me.....you must"
GAH!
newt203 3 years ago 2
this version is amazing but if you read the book then this adaptation is poor because of bad casting. Compare it to Robert Stevenson's 1944 version with Orson Welles and u will see wat I mean.
pazman77 3 years ago
bad casting?what do you mean?i'm sorry but i think both toby stephens and ruth wilson made a great job...i can't say it's better than stevenson's version coz i never saw it but i scarcely believe there's a better rochester(yeah, i'm bias, indeed..)it wouldn't disturb me to see stevenson's one, but i think it would be a great job for mr.welles to make me forget toby stephens in edward's role!but your opinion does interest me!thanks for giving it!
rubytuesday17 3 years ago
I mean tht, and this is my opinion after extensive study of the novel at a-level and of the adaptations in th 1st yr of my degree, Rochester is meant 2 b essentially an ugly prick. Toby Stephens doesnt meet tht criteria whereas Welles does. Ruth Wilson is spot on tho as the strong-willed, plain-looking heroin.
pazman77 3 years ago
WHAT! Orson Welles and his eyes creep me out--
and Rochester is anything but creepy! Granted, if you're talking about his acting, I can't comment (I've only seen parts of it), but honestly, he fits Rochester's physical description about the same as Toby Stephens. Neither of them look nothing like the dark, black-haired and black-eyed Rochester from the novel.
LeanaMcKie 3 years ago
nothing should be anything...Sorry!
LeanaMcKie 3 years ago
I disagree. I think tht Toby Stephens is much 2 dashing and I'm saying tht as a hetrosexual!
pazman77 3 years ago
If we can leave the looks of Jane & Mr. Rochester out of the discussion and concentrate on the acting, this might turn out to be a quite interesting exchange of ideas and opinions. :-)
Remember what Jane replies when Mr. Rochester asks if she finds him handsome: "I ought to have replied that it was not easy to give an impromptu answer to a question about appearances; that tastes mostly differ; and that beauty is of little consequence, or something of that sort." (Chapter XIV)
domramalaja 3 years ago
domramalaja, u make a gd point. So the q is: Is there an actor ne1 wud like 2 c as Rochester?
pazman77 3 years ago
pazman77,
Thanks for your confidence in my English skills. But I have to confess that I do not fully undertand what you are asking :-) [blushing] "ne1" ??
domramalaja 3 years ago
sorry. here is the question re-phrased: Is there an actor that anyone would wish to see play Rochester?
pazman77 3 years ago
actually i think that this actor was perfect.
blink617 3 years ago 6
In the "best Mr. Rochester"-contest, my current votes are for:
Physical appearance = Patrick Macnee (1957 TV "Matinee Theatre")
Voice (timbre) = Patrick Allen (1972 BBC Radio 4 serial)
Voice (singing) = James Barbour (2000 Musical, Gordon/Caird)
Acting, use of body language (eyes, voice etc.) = Michael Jayston (1973 BBC mini)
This said without having seen or listened to ALL films/musicals/radio dramas ... yet.
domramalaja 3 years ago
I wish Mr. Rochester was mine!!
D:
lavenderblossom 3 years ago 5
She's got it bad!
badango27 3 years ago 3
this is my favorite book i just finished reading it for school
while reading it i fell in love with mr. rochester then i ordered this movie and fell in love with him even more... he is soo damn attractive
Listentoyourheart07 3 years ago 5
omg i agree i always thought he would be
ugly [with thee descriptions they gave in the book]
but he looks good in the movie =D
animeXmiko23 3 years ago
Best post-fire scene PERIOD. I just watch this scene over and over... no other Jane Eyre version comes CLOSE to this.
JediXManSerenaKenobi 4 years ago 2
One of my favourite scenes from this mini series!!! Loved it!!!
DayJolie80 4 years ago
This is such a tantalizing scene. The chemistry is hotter than the fire. When he swallows (mmmmm) and he along with everybody else gets to see there is a beauty about Jane. Loved it tooo much.
alntwo 4 years ago 6
Rocheser is damn cute at 4:03!!! I love Toby!!
rainbowspotter 4 years ago
i am reading the book and i am in the part in which she left him after the wedding in church... i really wonder what happens then, so pliz stop me before i watch it here... gosh, it's so lovely... :) both Rochester and Jane...
sesilya92 4 years ago
I love this scene. Mr. Rochester is too sexy when he wraps her up and Jane is so cute after when she puts her hand to her lips. MAN I LOVE THIS MINI SERIES!
gerrybreeze 4 years ago 8
Do you know the first time I saw this video that creepy lady's scream echoed through my head and kept me awake all night long . . .
EriksSecretRose 4 years ago
*nearly faints*
What a lovely, lovely scene!
XLovingLOSTX 4 years ago 4
the thing I love the most about Rochester is that obssessive fear he has about Jane leaving him, lol, either it's for a week, a day, a few hours! he's the cutest thing=D
...and...I love man in those loose outfits also=D that image of Mr.Darcy walking out of the mist with his manly chest poping out of his pijama shirt is permanently engraved in my memory till the end of times, Rochester should come out of the mist also=D
Jen7waters 4 years ago 5
wauw close....
peerke9 4 years ago
its dark!! =(
simsy07 4 years ago
I love this scene so much!
tatiskywalker 4 years ago
Love this scene. Wish this was available in America.
billybluenote 4 years ago
It is.
LeanaMcKie 3 years ago
god, when he puts the cloak around her the width of their faces is like an inch between eachother.
i think that is WELL good acting.
i love men in high waist trousers and floaty shirts :)
JustCantShakeEm 4 years ago 2
How could he? TS is close to 40. Feines already did an *olderish* version Heathcliff but he was still younger and looked it . . well, closer to 30.
TD was in his early 20s when he was in WH and looked really young . . . well based on a few pics, never actully saw the film.
I guess if they cast a young actor to play *young* Heathcliff, it might work.
elea1 4 years ago
wonder if BBC has considered making "Wuthering Heights" with Stephens as Heathcliff?
They did it with Timothy Dalton,he has played both roles Rochester and Heathcliff.
crowleysridgegirl 4 years ago
And,he tells her "go back to bed" then when she starts to leave,he changes his mind in a hurry,says,"What are you going"?? I liked the way they work up to things,testing the waters because of their different stations in life.
crowleysridgegirl 4 years ago
Yes,I posted this same idea in another deleted scene.Eventually Jane would have gone up there to the North Tower room.
BYW,note the way Stephens swallows hard when he wraps the blanket around Jane and delivers his "never,ect." line.LOVED IT!
crowleysridgegirl 4 years ago
Oddly this scene reminds me: given Jane is an independent young woman who advertises when she wants a new career position, and takes books from library shelves, she would have gone to the locked room and uncovered the mystery before she allowed Rochester to unlock her own doors--modern, assertive woman that she is. However, we all know that all literature has "shoot out the tires before the bus gets onto the freeway" moments, or else nothing would ever get created.
kayxyz 4 years ago
In the book, I think, it says that the fumes of the flames surrounded him so he was in a deep sleep because of the fumes and jane had to put loads and loads of water on him. so practically the wholeroom was swimming in water.
simoncowellfan 5 years ago
Love this scene. Her response to the close encounter with Roch-ie is so girlish and cute. Our first glimpse into how emotionally vulnerable she is to be to him. Very sweet but also sexy!
soozll 5 years ago
I liked Ciaran Hinds better, he was intense! But I've always hated the way he toys with her emotions. Imagine being the servant and knowing you couldn't have him. Super book, great movie!
cptwentworth 5 years ago
wow. ..that was soooo intense. Seriously..Rochester really challenges Jane's resistence and constraint. That girl has strong morals...my favorite part is when she heads into her bedroom and kisses her hand, it's such a genuine reaction, it's how I would react if I were held by the person I was head over heels in love with.
KweenBombersfan 5 years ago 3
It's pretty obvious that he's teasing her... Amazing scene, you can melt down easily. Don't know what I'd do with Toby Stephens that close to me (mmmm, probably...) :) Just love him - and what a fantastic character he's made out of Rochester!***
claulaulau 5 years ago 2
i think that this is the best jane eyre so far but the one with ciaran hinds in comes in close behind
darcy72 5 years ago
Mr. Rochester is not meant to be hot looking but he is meant to be attractive to Jane and to the audience. Hinds looked awful plus I could not handle is acting. So far wW. Hurt has captured the best Rochester and Charlotte Gains. the best Jane - Both in terms of how they would look visually.
Hurt looked neither handsome nor ugly - he just grows on you. Charlotte is not a head turner but cute enough to see something there.
ShrinkLady2004 5 years ago
I rented Jane Eyre and the Rochester dude in this video (the one I rented) looks very very old!!! hehe. I like this one though. Why is he wearing his Riding boots in bed?
rainbowspotter 5 years ago
It is suppossed that he is quite plenty of wine. Because of that he can't get awake when Jane wants to prevent him of the danger. And Jane must to water him to make him stand up.
TXEKU 5 years ago
In the book, Rochester had been drinking and fell asleep, hence did not wake up easily. Only the bed curtains were on fire, not the whole bed. She dowsed him so much because he wouldn't wake up to her voice. Hence, he may have crashed on the bed with his boots on because he passed out before undressing. My theory from the book, anyway. (a long time Jane Eyre fan)
robb4cubs 4 years ago
Where is that written? I remember she couldn't wake him up because the 'smoke had stupefied him.'
LeanaMcKie 3 years ago
I do not believe he had any boots on, because when Jane hears him coming back from the second storey, she tells us, the readers:
"I was on the point of risking Mr. Rochester's displeasure by disobeying his orders, when the light once more gleamed dimly on the gallery wall, and I heard his unshod feet tread the matting. 'I hope it is he,' thought I, 'and not something worse.'" (Chapter XV)
Then there is another question; How on earth could she HEAR "unshod feet tread the matting"?! :-)
domramalaja 3 years ago
You can. Don't ask me how though. It's one of those unexplainable things in life. But it is possible...trust me.
SnapeHermioneshipper 3 years ago
Someone asked "why is Rochester wearing riding boots in bed?"! lol But seriously, the sparks between JE & EFR, begin to change color with this scene. Wonderful chemistry -- I can see how two people who are very similar in intelligence and feeling, yet very far apart in philosophy and honesty / deceitfulness, could fall for each other. :)
annwags 5 years ago
This was good, but I'm having problems with this Rochester- the man playing him is far too young and attractive (compared to how Rochester is supposed to be, that is). Anyone else think this?
futurewritermeko 5 years ago
The age is right: about 37. The hazel eyes are wrong, and he's not dark-skinned. But this Rochester's response to Jane's "paid subordinate" remark, instead of getting angry, he takes the mickey out of her, was a *wonderful* change. It established a different, warmer relationship. I loved it!
annwags 5 years ago
I think the lack of facial hair is what makes this Rochester *look* so young to me. Ciarán Hinds of the 1997 version had the sideburns and mustache which made him look as old as I had envisioned the character.
futurewritermeko 5 years ago
I thought the facial hair made Hinds look about 47! A man's 30s, it is said are the best years of his life; he still has strength and looks, but he also has experience and prestige on his side. 37 wasn't that old during the Victorian era. The longevity statistics of people in Victorian England was skewed because of all the women and children who died in childbirth. People have had the ability to live as long as we do now for thousands of years--as long as they could afford to eat enough.
quibily 2 years ago 3
Why are you talking about (Ciaran) Hinds ? That is Toby Rochester...
holylola 2 years ago 3
I'm about to read this book
vintagefame 5 years ago
OMG i just read the book, my Nana sent me for my birthday last week, and i just had to see what films or tv series they'd done, and OMG this looks so awsome, Rochester and Eyre are just perfect *SQUEEEEE*
Yoshi7Link 5 years ago
Dayuuuum!
lakme 5 years ago
he doesn't look that attractive on the back of the book...
pauliwauli2 5 years ago
How many films made from Bronte books is this guy in?
Bwalk0220 5 years ago
Two: "Tennant of Wildfell Hall" and this.
annwags 5 years ago
Will this be showing in america?
moonkissed45 5 years ago
Check PBS's homepage. Better, check your local TV listings for Sunday! :)
annwags 5 years ago
god u jst scream kiss at the telly!! lol!!
loved this!
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gorgegal16 5 years ago
mmm love this scene!!!
cutsiepie 5 years ago
The real fire was the fire set by Rochester/Jane. Amazing chemistry between the two leads and I cannot wait to see this on BBC America. Thanks for posting!
cranky1chick 5 years ago 3
This will be on PBS "Masterpiece Theatre" for the next two Sunadys. Check your listings! :)
annwags 5 years ago
This scene = pure lust.
wooanime 5 years ago 2