No, in my humble opinion the power supply is spiking (reading a short in the circuit and shutting off) because of a short on a standoff or some other metal to board connection under the board. The fan just turning for a second and stopping is the clue you needed to pay attention to.
No offense to the person who made this video, but it was not informative at all. I have been in the IT Industry for over 10 years and I think this video was a partially helpful although it was not very practical. My next step after gathering the history that lead up to the computer not powering on, would be to check the connections as stated, but my very next thought would have been to test the power supply, then the PS, HDLED, wires. Bad motherboard issues don't usually exhibit no power symptom
I really liked the "50%rule" that you talked about. I was just wondering if a POST card would have helped in this situation, I am sure you would know better than I would, but my thinking would be, maybe you were getting the wrong beep code for some reason? Although I beleive in this case, you assuming ESD is spot on. Thanks 4 the video. Oh yeah, if I could mention 1 thing, It does no good to argue with stupid people on here, as you know, they just drag u down and beat u with experience. :-)
@theleMBeleht wow really, in my experience less than 5% of all computer problems is due to a wrong place standoff or screw, even when they transfer the case. I also read your other comments, kind of lets me know that you don't do computer work as a job, maybe as a hobby. Judging by the way you worded your other comments, if you didn't do this as a hobby, you're probably one of those computer techs and my customers don't like going to because you make them feel like they are stupid.
Great video.Save time and start with substitute power supply.90 percent of computer problems I have experienced have been due to cheap Chinese power supplies. The $7-12 dollar varieties.
We all know there are copy cats in China.Stuff looks good but isn't. Computer stores are selling it now ! Some manufacturers put it in their cheap computers.
I got a trick for you that you might not have considered. When you narrow a short down to the Mobo/CPU and don't want to risk sacrificing another CPU, Take your current CPU out of the Mobo and wrap the CPU in a sheet of thin foam and rubber bands like they do with shipped OEM processors, Then, keeping the heatsink fan plugged in (If there are no diagnostic lights of course). It won't boot, but you can test the mobo for power by turning on the system and seeing if the processor was the culprit.
i have wifi and on my modem my wlan and internet icons dont stay on and day used to now my internet is slow as and wen ever i go to upload a video now instead of 10 mins remaining it says stuff like 1110 mins remaining so i just quit can u plz help me and now it takes like 30 minutes just to load a 3 minute video dat im watchin and i cant download stuff like google chrome or update my softwware it just pauses .i have a new computer i got last month and i have windows 7 plz help plz plz plz plz
Sometimes I get computers that do the same thing but have no chance of ESD having of occurred is to change the CMOS battery. It's amazing how many computers wont boot with a dead CMOS battery.
hey man! can you help me with my pc? the problem is my pc turns on but after a few minutes it will suddenly turn off by itself but the thing is the cpu fan psu and all are still turning and on? but the monitor show nothing. even if i restart it and enter the bios the video will suddenly disappear. I overclock my cpu quite some time like 4 months before this happens I even reset the cmos. but I still got the same problem plss help me thnx in advance
Methodology tips are okay. At about 6:17 poor vocabulary choices. Avoid the word, "stuff." Everything has a proper term. "It's not this stuff, it's not this stuff."
how do you find the problem in 5 min??? I use a power supply tester that tests different molexes and the reading is digital. I am getting a RAM device to test and check memory without havign to use Memory86 software at all.. U put the ram onto this devices and gives u all the reading and if it is bad. I look for bulging capacitors and that the spring of the chipset is not unsodded... would like to hear how u do it
i thought this was very helpful thank you but no offense at all your voice is boring and its hard to watch 10 minutes of a very interesting thing but hard when your voice is just so monotone
Aup, quick question: Do you know a descent, reliable website to learn how computer hardware works? I don't really want to use Wikipedia, because it kinda confuses me most the time. Would you or anyone else recommend something? Thank and great video!
Hi Can you help me out pleaes? I just reinstalled windows vista 32 sp2 and I cannot install the ethernet drives or lan drives. Reltek error comes up. The pc is basically in sleep mode that is stopping me from installing drivers. I have google it, but only suggestions are to take it apart wich I don't want 2 do. Do you know a fix. I had an idea of transfering user account from my mums laptop with same vista. Will this work, or do you know hw to get it out of sleep mode?? Cheers :)
I would say or check in that case standoffs. I'm betting one of them on the wrong place rather kept the board from boot or fried it. Try on table I say.
I do alot a pc repairs I spend 5 minutes or less trouble shooting this is not for the average person unless your realy know what your doing u can make it worse too lol
@09fod A bit hard to explain what burnt electronics smell like, when it happens. It's been awhile, but I don't remember any burnt spots on this board. I think it was just a zap from the customer fiddling with it. But I have seen where the board gets burn spots, and sometimes burns the case as well. Those are easy to diagnose.
lol, intuition and a calculator.. Some good explaining to the client that he will spent 300.00 to fix it and Dell has a deal for 250.00 :) Great!! video buddy..
first thing you do in this case is test power supply then remove the mother board screws and lift the board up put a piece of card board behind the board or remove it and place on card board on a counter and see if its ground out on the case or a bad ground caseor missed plugged the wires or connectors lol them are four of the most common problems of noobs switching cases no stabdoffs
i wacthed this even tho im experinced in computers and yea cpu and motherboard should always be the first thing you think of based on what u know about the system already
the only way to get my computer to boot is using this way
using a paperclip to connect the green wire on my powersuply atx 24 pin connector to a groun on the connector to get my powersuply to start how do i get my computer to start by itself
ie what is wrong with my motherboard
so what can i do no matter what i do the power button i have switched the mother bord signel has stoped working what can i do
i was trying to install a new ram on my lanovo desktop and i had to make room so i unplugeg the wire that is connected to the power button and i forgot where it goes and i need help please help me please
@livinmax There is a group of pins for the power switch, power light, and reset button. Very often the power switch leads are right beside or across from the reset button leads, so that might help you. Hard to say without seeing it.
@livinmax Each board is different in the pin out so it might not be too helpful for you.
There should be a cluster of like 8 or 12 pins together towards one of the corners of the board.
Sometimes if you carefully read around it, it might be printed on it to identify it. Otherwise you can try the connector in one of those empty spots and try turning it on.
you are probably right about the Motherboard being the problem... however... you should've still looked at the CPU to make sure Pins are stable and present.
@XanALaOM00 Correct a bad CPU can cause a similair problem, however if your computer just up and does'nt turn on one day the CPU is likely fine with all pins intact. The motherboard was replaced in this particular system and it ran fine.
@icececedor1 Without doing any research on that, based on the "atidvai" I would suspect the graphics card drivers, or the card itself are damaged or corrupt.
Try booting up in safemode, if that works then install a new set of drivers. If not (or the drivers fail) take a look at the physical graphics card and see if you can spot any blown capacitors on the board, and try reseating the graphics card.
@icececedor1 I got the same problem with my dell latitude c600 (laptop). it has a problem with file atidvai.. i think it is problem with my graphic card.. ati mobility. I dont know how to fix it! please help!!
Why not just put in another power supply and see if that fixes the problem? Then move on to a different area. I did that in the past and it worked. Just a thought.
@beerrunner81 It's best to test the power supply first, as you could go through and connect a perfectly good power supply to a bad computer and burn it out as well.
@DefconComputers Yeah I know its very hard to cover everything, if you get partnership you can make longer videos, I subscribed to your channel by the way, dont forget to check out my channel, all tech related vids.
the same thing happened to me when i built my computer, i took me 2 days to realize that i forgot one of the screws that screws the motherboard to the case -_-
Alot of people forget that grounding issues can cause a system not to start up as well. Sometimes people put a standoff in the case where there shoud not be one, and the computer won't even start up, it will look like a bad board, or processor issue until you take it out and re-check the mounting holes.
I had the same thing happen, did all the checks that I could, I even opened up the power supply to see if it was overheating (DO NOT TRY AT HOME KIDS) even sending it in 2 times, to 2 different repair places but still :( I found that the problem would happen ever 6months after total System Reboot. I figured out the store (BB) tht I bought it @loaded a "Trial Version" of Windows Vista but sold it as Full Ver and pocketed the money.
*sigh* As familiar as I am with virtual computer repair, I'm stumped. My computer shuts off as if I've unplugged it while doing completely random tasks. Reformatting by disk, opening picture files, opening internet explorer, etc. it's the same things that shut it off. I've even put the hard drive in another computer, but it works fine. It's the physical and virtual computer both doing it. Any ideas? :(
A sudden shutdown like that could be any number of things. Like MrMaleBee said, check for overheating issues, that is very common for that. Test your power supply, make sure it is well within acceptible ranges (I have a vid on doing that). Make sure the power supply is adequete for the system (Don't use a 300w PS with a system that has 4 hard drives and a nice vid card running).
I've done computer repair for about 20 years now. This process of diagnosing is the best way to pinpoint a problem, and alot of new people starting never learn this and replace parts at random.
don't consider myself a computer expert, but worked for several years in a electronic repair shop.
when we first got started in pc repair we paid people who know the business to come and help us out, and then I started doing a lot of the repairs myself.
If the board is bad then why dont you use all your smarts and figure out what circuit is bad. sounds like someone is in computer repair when he shouldn't be.
I don't bother with what part of the board is bad because it's not cost effective for me, or my customers to fix system motherboards. I identify the problem in the system and replace it to keep costs down for both me and the customer.
YOur wasting all your time, try another power supply first, because yoru main problem you already know has to do with no power! then rip everything off the board and start plugging them back and trying it each time.much much faster. then you know everything is plugged in right because you did it. i would never waste my time messing with other peoples builds. same with installing a car radio if they already touched it dont ask me to fix it your mess.
I'm not sure you watched the video all the way. I mention testing of the power supply and that it was'nt the power supply alone to cause the issue. I also mention the process of narrowing down the issue, which involves the removal of add in cards.
When you run a repair shop you can be given a system that has been through all kinds of hell, and be asked to fix it. Work is work, and any good tech can work through a mess like this no problem.
Well I mention doing those things. The goal of this video is the troubleshooting logic process. 1. Listening to the customer. 2. Cutting the problem is half until you pinpoint the issue 3. If one and two don't work use experience and intuition to pinpoint the cause.
I have videos on testing power supplies, and all that good stuff, which I mention as well.
I would start with the power supply, I use a power supply tester you can get them for $15 or so.
Or just pull the power supply and take it to a shop and ask them to do it.
I would then remove all cards, unplug hard drives etc and see if you can boot up to the bios screen. I've seen the power switch break on E-machines but usually you can feel it's broken when broken when you press it.
I basically describe that same process here. I believe I did mention that I tested the power supply, and even tried a new power supply in the system. The board was bad, and I replaced the power supply as well due to the voltages I got from it when power was initially applied as a precaution.
Was it plugged in? Lol
DFresh892001 5 days ago
DO A UPDATE ON WHAT WAS WRONG WITH THAT
BOARD YOU WERE TROUBLESHOOTING IN THE VIDEO
MrMac5150 1 week ago
@MrMac5150 It was the motherboard
DefconComputers 5 days ago
No, in my humble opinion the power supply is spiking (reading a short in the circuit and shutting off) because of a short on a standoff or some other metal to board connection under the board. The fan just turning for a second and stopping is the clue you needed to pay attention to.
iaagg 3 weeks ago
No offense to the person who made this video, but it was not informative at all. I have been in the IT Industry for over 10 years and I think this video was a partially helpful although it was not very practical. My next step after gathering the history that lead up to the computer not powering on, would be to check the connections as stated, but my very next thought would have been to test the power supply, then the PS, HDLED, wires. Bad motherboard issues don't usually exhibit no power symptom
Rymat23 4 weeks ago
Thanks for the video. It was really helpfull for a person like me who had almost no idea how TroubleShoot a PC.
ipandrei 1 month ago
I really liked the "50%rule" that you talked about. I was just wondering if a POST card would have helped in this situation, I am sure you would know better than I would, but my thinking would be, maybe you were getting the wrong beep code for some reason? Although I beleive in this case, you assuming ESD is spot on. Thanks 4 the video. Oh yeah, if I could mention 1 thing, It does no good to argue with stupid people on here, as you know, they just drag u down and beat u with experience. :-)
sbizkit08 1 month ago
He never even took out the board to test it out of the case.DUHH
Cadmannn 1 month ago
your pc is a mes mate that does not help in tying to find problems tidy it up
rimtech45 1 month ago
@theleMBeleht wow really, in my experience less than 5% of all computer problems is due to a wrong place standoff or screw, even when they transfer the case. I also read your other comments, kind of lets me know that you don't do computer work as a job, maybe as a hobby. Judging by the way you worded your other comments, if you didn't do this as a hobby, you're probably one of those computer techs and my customers don't like going to because you make them feel like they are stupid.
basiccomputerhelp 1 month ago
Great video.Save time and start with substitute power supply.90 percent of computer problems I have experienced have been due to cheap Chinese power supplies. The $7-12 dollar varieties.
We all know there are copy cats in China.Stuff looks good but isn't. Computer stores are selling it now ! Some manufacturers put it in their cheap computers.
MisterD1950 2 months ago
THank you for sharing.
x89codered89x 2 months ago
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gstreich1 2 months ago
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kk75410 2 months ago
Hey what if something is broken on your motherboard. Do you replace the hole motherboard or do you fix the part that was broken?
bigcasey1995 2 months ago
I got a trick for you that you might not have considered. When you narrow a short down to the Mobo/CPU and don't want to risk sacrificing another CPU, Take your current CPU out of the Mobo and wrap the CPU in a sheet of thin foam and rubber bands like they do with shipped OEM processors, Then, keeping the heatsink fan plugged in (If there are no diagnostic lights of course). It won't boot, but you can test the mobo for power by turning on the system and seeing if the processor was the culprit.
rediconAoC 2 months ago
Thank you for wasting my time you MF
WhoCaresFU 2 months ago
@WhoCaresFU Thanks for showing you have the intelligence of a rock.
DefconComputers 2 months ago 4
@WhoCaresFU ur such an awful man
kk75410 2 months ago
It is best to understand clearly I mean thanks
axmadnew 3 months ago
Your a tool!!! You don't know crap about diagnosing computers.
pvanberkum 3 months ago
@pvanberkum If you know so much why are you watching this video.
DefconComputers 3 months ago 2
@pvanberkum Watching this video, and as a computer repair tech myself, He did everything right. I only have a issue with his title of the video.
basiccomputerhelp 2 months ago
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i have wifi and on my modem my wlan and internet icons dont stay on and day used to now my internet is slow as and wen ever i go to upload a video now instead of 10 mins remaining it says stuff like 1110 mins remaining so i just quit can u plz help me and now it takes like 30 minutes just to load a 3 minute video dat im watchin and i cant download stuff like google chrome or update my softwware it just pauses .i have a new computer i got last month and i have windows 7 plz help plz plz plz plz
infinitejinpachi 3 months ago
Sometimes I get computers that do the same thing but have no chance of ESD having of occurred is to change the CMOS battery. It's amazing how many computers wont boot with a dead CMOS battery.
TheMoleMan95 3 months ago
hey man! can you help me with my pc? the problem is my pc turns on but after a few minutes it will suddenly turn off by itself but the thing is the cpu fan psu and all are still turning and on? but the monitor show nothing. even if i restart it and enter the bios the video will suddenly disappear. I overclock my cpu quite some time like 4 months before this happens I even reset the cmos. but I still got the same problem plss help me thnx in advance
stephensoliven 4 months ago
Methodology tips are okay. At about 6:17 poor vocabulary choices. Avoid the word, "stuff." Everything has a proper term. "It's not this stuff, it's not this stuff."
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how do you find the problem in 5 min??? I use a power supply tester that tests different molexes and the reading is digital. I am getting a RAM device to test and check memory without havign to use Memory86 software at all.. U put the ram onto this devices and gives u all the reading and if it is bad. I look for bulging capacitors and that the spring of the chipset is not unsodded... would like to hear how u do it
HelmetVanga 4 months ago
Did you try reseating the processor or check cmos clear cmos??
hilltop7 5 months ago
i thought this was very helpful thank you but no offense at all your voice is boring and its hard to watch 10 minutes of a very interesting thing but hard when your voice is just so monotone
Mrdubstep589 6 months ago
Aup, quick question: Do you know a descent, reliable website to learn how computer hardware works? I don't really want to use Wikipedia, because it kinda confuses me most the time. Would you or anyone else recommend something? Thank and great video!
AlwaysLearningTech 7 months ago
Hi Can you help me out pleaes? I just reinstalled windows vista 32 sp2 and I cannot install the ethernet drives or lan drives. Reltek error comes up. The pc is basically in sleep mode that is stopping me from installing drivers. I have google it, but only suggestions are to take it apart wich I don't want 2 do. Do you know a fix. I had an idea of transfering user account from my mums laptop with same vista. Will this work, or do you know hw to get it out of sleep mode?? Cheers :)
rhythm2007mc 7 months ago
Hey man, nice video ! Can I have your e-mail ? I would like to ask some questions. Thanks!
hakersification 8 months ago
I would say or check in that case standoffs. I'm betting one of them on the wrong place rather kept the board from boot or fried it. Try on table I say.
37474748 8 months ago
heyy
Dave86413 8 months ago
holy shit jump it green and black
KoyoTea 9 months ago
I do alot a pc repairs I spend 5 minutes or less trouble shooting this is not for the average person unless your realy know what your doing u can make it worse too lol
the idiot fried it
KoyoTea 9 months ago
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HelmetVanga 4 months ago
@KoyoTea how do u do it that fast in 5 min??? would like to hear it
HelmetVanga 4 months ago
why dont us just test the dam power supply first
KoyoTea 9 months ago
1: what did it smell like 2: what did the back of the mother bord look like was there dark patches near any of the smds ?
09fod 10 months ago
@09fod A bit hard to explain what burnt electronics smell like, when it happens. It's been awhile, but I don't remember any burnt spots on this board. I think it was just a zap from the customer fiddling with it. But I have seen where the board gets burn spots, and sometimes burns the case as well. Those are easy to diagnose.
DefconComputers 10 months ago
lol, intuition and a calculator.. Some good explaining to the client that he will spent 300.00 to fix it and Dell has a deal for 250.00 :) Great!! video buddy..
eparada26 10 months ago
first thing you do in this case is test power supply then remove the mother board screws and lift the board up put a piece of card board behind the board or remove it and place on card board on a counter and see if its ground out on the case or a bad ground caseor missed plugged the wires or connectors lol them are four of the most common problems of noobs switching cases no stabdoffs
MRBIGGIEMAC 11 months ago
ALWAYS MAKE SURE? ANY ELECTRICAL DEVICE IS UNPLUGGED AND
NOT GETTING ANY POWER AND/OR THE BATTERY HAS BEEN
REMOVED BEFORE YOU TRY TO REPAIR IT
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Always make sure any electrical device is unplugged and
not getting any power before you try to repair it.
droghorn2 11 months ago
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ALWAYS MAKE SURE ANY ELECTRICAL DEVICE IS UNPLUGGED AND
NOT GETTING ANY POWER BEFORE YOU TRY TO REPAIR IT
droghorn2 11 months ago
i wacthed this even tho im experinced in computers and yea cpu and motherboard should always be the first thing you think of based on what u know about the system already
BassPounderX 1 year ago
I NEED SOME HELP!!
the only way to get my computer to boot is using this way
using a paperclip to connect the green wire on my powersuply atx 24 pin connector to a groun on the connector to get my powersuply to start how do i get my computer to start by itself
ie what is wrong with my motherboard
so what can i do no matter what i do the power button i have switched the mother bord signel has stoped working what can i do
coolcar77 1 year ago
flat head screwdriver and bridge the bi@ch :)...
aschris87 1 year ago
this guy probably screw Mobo directly to the case.. w/o special stands
3D8n52DmV37EI6oHeX 1 year ago
@3D8n52DmV37EI6oHeX I've seen computers like that, and people ask me why their new board does'nt work.
DefconComputers 1 year ago
i was trying to install a new ram on my lanovo desktop and i had to make room so i unplugeg the wire that is connected to the power button and i forgot where it goes and i need help please help me please
livinmax 1 year ago
@livinmax There is a group of pins for the power switch, power light, and reset button. Very often the power switch leads are right beside or across from the reset button leads, so that might help you. Hard to say without seeing it.
DefconComputers 1 year ago
@DefconComputers can you please do a video for me plaese i don't have my computer please it deos'nt work anymore
livinmax 1 year ago
@livinmax Each board is different in the pin out so it might not be too helpful for you.
There should be a cluster of like 8 or 12 pins together towards one of the corners of the board.
Sometimes if you carefully read around it, it might be printed on it to identify it. Otherwise you can try the connector in one of those empty spots and try turning it on.
DefconComputers 1 year ago
sub'd :D!
bobbysam232 1 year ago
you are probably right about the Motherboard being the problem... however... you should've still looked at the CPU to make sure Pins are stable and present.
but ya... I agree... Bad motherboard
XanALaOM00 1 year ago
@XanALaOM00 Correct a bad CPU can cause a similair problem, however if your computer just up and does'nt turn on one day the CPU is likely fine with all pins intact. The motherboard was replaced in this particular system and it ran fine.
DefconComputers 1 year ago
@XanALaOM00
why not check stand up screws that mobo goes on. :-)
Loshatube 1 year ago
Thanks for the video man! Thanks for sharing!
EpicHawk 1 year ago
why dont you do a vid on the way hp clip of the pins to reset the bios
blissinthemix 1 year ago
@blissinthemix I'll add it to my list of videos to make.
Thanks,
DefconComputers 1 year ago
Thank you for your time to help others.
KUW77 1 year ago
@KUW77 It's not problem I do it because I know how hard it is to find good information.
DefconComputers 1 year ago
After loading xp I get a blue screen with an error of atidvai on it what does this mean?
icececedor1 1 year ago
@icececedor1 Without doing any research on that, based on the "atidvai" I would suspect the graphics card drivers, or the card itself are damaged or corrupt.
Try booting up in safemode, if that works then install a new set of drivers. If not (or the drivers fail) take a look at the physical graphics card and see if you can spot any blown capacitors on the board, and try reseating the graphics card.
DefconComputers 1 year ago
@icececedor1 I got the same problem with my dell latitude c600 (laptop). it has a problem with file atidvai.. i think it is problem with my graphic card.. ati mobility. I dont know how to fix it! please help!!
316308 1 year ago
Hello! I'm pleased the way you demonstrate, it's clear and easy to understand, and the topic is very interesting, Thank you and more power!
rondcruz 2 years ago
Glad you enjoyed it and found it useful.
DefconComputers 2 years ago
Why not just put in another power supply and see if that fixes the problem? Then move on to a different area. I did that in the past and it worked. Just a thought.
beerrunner81 2 years ago
@beerrunner81 It's best to test the power supply first, as you could go through and connect a perfectly good power supply to a bad computer and burn it out as well.
DefconComputers 2 years ago
Nice video maybe put a reminder about grounding issues on the video, dont think you mentioned it in video 5*****
Britec09 2 years ago
Thanks, I'll add a notation in somewhere about that. Hard to cover everything in that 10 min window.
DefconComputers 2 years ago
@DefconComputers Yeah I know its very hard to cover everything, if you get partnership you can make longer videos, I subscribed to your channel by the way, dont forget to check out my channel, all tech related vids.
Britec09 2 years ago
@Britec09 I subbed. I'm still waiting for YouTube to approve my application. I'm thinking about submitting it again since it's been over a month now.
DefconComputers 2 years ago
No dont submit again just wait, I am still waiting for mine. did you subscribe to my channel?
Britec09 2 years ago
the same thing happened to me when i built my computer, i took me 2 days to realize that i forgot one of the screws that screws the motherboard to the case -_-
flatoutguitarist617 2 years ago
Alot of people forget that grounding issues can cause a system not to start up as well. Sometimes people put a standoff in the case where there shoud not be one, and the computer won't even start up, it will look like a bad board, or processor issue until you take it out and re-check the mounting holes.
DefconComputers 2 years ago
Hello sharkhead7854,
I had the same thing happen, did all the checks that I could, I even opened up the power supply to see if it was overheating (DO NOT TRY AT HOME KIDS) even sending it in 2 times, to 2 different repair places but still :( I found that the problem would happen ever 6months after total System Reboot. I figured out the store (BB) tht I bought it @loaded a "Trial Version" of Windows Vista but sold it as Full Ver and pocketed the money.
I am now running Win7 that I $4
MrMaleBee 2 years ago
Are you sure they just did'nt activate that copy of windows? Sometimes you just have to punch the product key back into it and it will activate fine.
Your running Win7 now, and it runs faster anyware =)
DefconComputers 2 years ago
*sigh* As familiar as I am with virtual computer repair, I'm stumped. My computer shuts off as if I've unplugged it while doing completely random tasks. Reformatting by disk, opening picture files, opening internet explorer, etc. it's the same things that shut it off. I've even put the hard drive in another computer, but it works fine. It's the physical and virtual computer both doing it. Any ideas? :(
sharkhead7854 2 years ago
A sudden shutdown like that could be any number of things. Like MrMaleBee said, check for overheating issues, that is very common for that. Test your power supply, make sure it is well within acceptible ranges (I have a vid on doing that). Make sure the power supply is adequete for the system (Don't use a 300w PS with a system that has 4 hard drives and a nice vid card running).
DefconComputers 2 years ago
Give us the internet and we all think we are a computer repair man lol
syko77 2 years ago
I've done computer repair for about 20 years now. This process of diagnosing is the best way to pinpoint a problem, and alot of new people starting never learn this and replace parts at random.
DefconComputers 2 years ago
don't consider myself a computer expert, but worked for several years in a electronic repair shop.
when we first got started in pc repair we paid people who know the business to come and help us out, and then I started doing a lot of the repairs myself.
whiskeyify 2 years ago
If the board is bad then why dont you use all your smarts and figure out what circuit is bad. sounds like someone is in computer repair when he shouldn't be.
syko77 2 years ago
I don't bother with what part of the board is bad because it's not cost effective for me, or my customers to fix system motherboards. I identify the problem in the system and replace it to keep costs down for both me and the customer.
DefconComputers 2 years ago
YOur wasting all your time, try another power supply first, because yoru main problem you already know has to do with no power! then rip everything off the board and start plugging them back and trying it each time.much much faster. then you know everything is plugged in right because you did it. i would never waste my time messing with other peoples builds. same with installing a car radio if they already touched it dont ask me to fix it your mess.
syko77 2 years ago
I'm not sure you watched the video all the way. I mention testing of the power supply and that it was'nt the power supply alone to cause the issue. I also mention the process of narrowing down the issue, which involves the removal of add in cards.
When you run a repair shop you can be given a system that has been through all kinds of hell, and be asked to fix it. Work is work, and any good tech can work through a mess like this no problem.
DefconComputers 2 years ago
I'm sure you are a pro, but it's just that this video is a little confusing to a newbie.
You should take it one step at a time, first show what was done with the power supply, did you unplug it and try another one?
In other words show each step of the troubleshooting process.
whiskeyify 2 years ago
Well I mention doing those things. The goal of this video is the troubleshooting logic process. 1. Listening to the customer. 2. Cutting the problem is half until you pinpoint the issue 3. If one and two don't work use experience and intuition to pinpoint the cause.
I have videos on testing power supplies, and all that good stuff, which I mention as well.
DefconComputers 2 years ago
I added a comment to make it clear that this is for the logistical process of diagnosing.
DefconComputers 2 years ago
really it's not hard, you have only a few things that you can replace.
a power supply, memory, processor or motherboard, much easier than troubleshooting a dead tv which has a lot more components.
whiskeyify 2 years ago
I would start with the power supply, I use a power supply tester you can get them for $15 or so.
Or just pull the power supply and take it to a shop and ask them to do it.
I would then remove all cards, unplug hard drives etc and see if you can boot up to the bios screen. I've seen the power switch break on E-machines but usually you can feel it's broken when broken when you press it.
whiskeyify 2 years ago
I basically describe that same process here. I believe I did mention that I tested the power supply, and even tried a new power supply in the system. The board was bad, and I replaced the power supply as well due to the voltages I got from it when power was initially applied as a precaution.
DefconComputers 2 years ago
I hate working on pcs when people have there cords all over the place.
BuckeyeSparky 2 years ago 10
thanks man this helped lots :P 5/5
dellson21 2 years ago 7
Glad it could be of help
DefconComputers 2 years ago