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  • The fault is on both sides. If you are illegal, then you are breaking the law. But, I also think that those who are enforcing the laws, and those who are writing them are twice as evil. What is happening to the illegal immigrants will also eventually be twisted and perverted against the citizens of the United States. The Catholics of Mexico need another Christero War. Americans need a Crusade against these satanic men controling the United States and the world.

  • If you will communicate with facts, I will continue this discourse. Otherwise, there is no purpose in discourse.

  • Nate, if you call my opinion biased crap, may I call your's racist hatred and fear? And tell me what law any church is breaking by opening its doors to any and everyone. And then tell me what the first amendment says. And then tell me what the DHS policy reads concerning churches and schools. And then tell me what the DOJ Civil Rights Division says about an employer's obligations re: I9 forms. And tell me why you think the migrant worker was stopped while riding his bike to mass.

  • I think this is more about farmers who have managed to keep a low profile with their illegal activities for years and are now worried about having to pay lawful wages rather than any sort of humanitarian reason.

    The only people who have to worry about any of the federal immigration agencies are ILLEGAL aliens and those who employ, smuggle and exploit them for profit. A LEGAL alien doesn't have a thing to worry about, from any immigration agency, because they are allowed to be in the U.S.

  • ALL ILLEGAL ALIENS in the US are SLAVES. The church uses them for labor and to help fill th coffers. The farmers in WAYNE COUNTY, NY, and else where use the ESCLAVES for cheap slave labor, because they care about the dollars in their pockets. Politicains in NY protect the farmers, so the farmers can put more money in the politicians farmers. If this was a drug ring instead of an illegal alien slave ring, all these people would be in under investigation for a crime. But the money flows ....

  • Good to see Dr. G has been shut down. You can support slave labor all you want, you are wrong for aiding and abetting illegal aliens.

    Second, Power, the natives lost. get over it. This land belongs to the winners! My blood is native, but I am an American. Being native is no excuse for being an idiot. There is not a single piece of land on earth that still belongs to the original owners.

    Dr G. you can block all you want, until you shut this video down. I will be here! YOU LOSE!

  • if illegal immigrants buy the food they eat in the states, and their clothing from stores in the states, and spend the little money they earn in stores, restaurants, dealerships etc.. in the states, then the illegal immigrants are paying taxes, just like we do and are helping the economy. the jobs that illegal immigrants have, pays close to nothing, and its back braking work, that Americans wont do.

    im not pro illegal immigration, but go after all illegal immigrants or none, not just one race.

  • No no no no no, I pay for the babies and everything else that the government give them! Get the hell out of my country and take powernaudio with them.

  • unless you're native American Indian, you should leave just as well, take your immigrant family with you. you see every one can make dumb racist comments. i say if you dont like the usa the way it its, then you should be the one leaving, since the first colonist of the states, immigration has been the only way that people other then the native American Indians got to this country. united states is country of immigrants. like it, deal with it or leave the country.

  • We are a nation of laws!

    My family came through the front door not the back and I am proud to be a PATRIOTIC American who obays the laws thank you very much!

  • You commenters are ridiculous. Do you think God appreciates having his followers deported while they're praying to him? They're not doing anything wrong, the church is being taken advantage of to catch illegal immigrants. That should be a safe place, a sanctuary. This is just low.

  • Karly, your comments are ridculous. First there is no evidence that says the border patrol arrested anyone in a church. Second, do you have any idea how many criminal aliens (rape, murder, drugs) that these folks in SODUS NY have aided. They have one purpose, to help the farmers with SLAVE workers so the church can have more money in the coffer and the farmers can have cheap labor. This is about money. They can pray in Mexican churches, send em home. Good job border patrol.

  • Wow. You're retarded and can't even spell. If you have this much time on your hands, go JOIN the border patrol if you have such a boner for them. No one is even going to waste their time arguing with all that retarded racist stereotyping bullshit you just posted. Maybe go join the KKK too, it looks like you'd fit in there.

  • Well like a typical liberal you can make comments with no meaning. First I am typing on you tube and I do not care to check my spelling as I can type fast and well.If I was 25 again I would join the BP. Third, YOU are the retraded lib who can not point out a single racist comment I posted. Pointing out that NY farmers are slave owners and enjoy the slave labor and trade of Mexican and Guatemalans is not being racist. So bring it on Carly, lets see some facts here to back you comments.

  • And as for as the KKK, yes I believe that if there is Affirmative Action, NAACP, the Black Collage Fund, J. Jackson and A. Sharpton Black Mail funds, The Black Panthers, The Black Congress, La Raza, and many other RACE ONLY allowed groups then the KLAN is probably not a bad group to join. They all have thugs, they all lie cheat and steal for the purpose of using their own race as a token card to FREE $! You are a coward lib and you will never win this conversation. You have no facts! Just BS.

  • EVERYTHING you said was racist, and if nothing I said had any meaning to it why do you feel the need to defend yourself so much? I hardly said anything both times and you responded with paragraphs and paragraphs of nonsense, AKA - you're psycho and full of yourself. My name's not Carly you retard, and I never said I was a liberal. You're generalizing and stereotyping and you're even making shit up. Fail.

  • Ok, Farly, we are going to go round and round, because you are too intelligent to understand the meaning of the word Racist. You called my statements racists. I said point out one statement that is racist, you said everything. Futher I answer each of your comments in two paragraphs in order to point out your stupidity. Now you state I am generalizing and sterotyping. What am I sterotyping and generalizing? Am I sterotyping and gernalizing the fact that BLACKS and HISPANICS have RACE ONLY clubs..

  • Is it racists for BLACKS to have black only clubs or is it racists for whites to have WHITE ONLY clubs. Is the comment that Farmers enjoy the SLAVE labor of Guatemalans and Mexican workers who are smuggled across the border, held hostage, raped and beat, who are then transported all over America to work jobs that lazy tax payer money sucking welfare Americans REFUSE to do, that is racist? Please tell me what are my racist comments? The fact is these comments are the TRUTH and your a dumbass!

  • You're ridiculous. Your grammar and spelling is horrible and everything you say is crap. I don't have time to point out every flaw in your "arguments" or I'd be here all day educating you, and before you whine at me like a douchebag "see you lose, i wiin", the only thing you've won at is not having a life. And if you respond to this with more garbage, you're just proving my point. You keep spouting things at me like we're debating, when I'll I've done is let you know you're stupid and racist. :|

  • Tarly, again, we are on youtube, I am not checking my grammer or spelling. And for that matter your dumb ass spelled "win" wrong and what the hell is " ..when I'll I've..." is that proper grammer in SODUS.. Second your a worthless lib and you do not know how to debate, when you cant make a valid point you just resort to name calling and degrading comments. ....

  • Third, there is no racist comments in this line, just the fact that the FARMERS in SODUS NY are using illegal aliens as cheap SLAVE LABOR. And you support their actions to ENSLAVE Mexicans and Guatemalans. I am all for legal immigration, legal workers, and for helping folks. I do it all the time. I am a God fearing man who has found these poor folks half chewed bodies dead in the hot Texas sun, who fell ill and were left behind on my Ranch in South Texas...

  • I have gone out of my way to rescue hurt and dying folks left behind by coyotes (smugglers), who did not have the decency to call for help for a sick illegal in his group, BECAUSE just like the enablers in the EPIPHANY CHURCH and the Farmers in SODUS NY, all they cared about was the money. No one cares that most of the women and young girls are raped by smugglers who make "panty trees" from the underwear of their victims to show off the number of thier rapes. NO sodus just tells em keep coming!

  • Because the FARMERS in sodus only care about the MONEY. Not that the women have been raped, the men and women have been robbed, beaten, held hostage for ransom, NO like all good NYers ya'll only care about the bottom line, MONEY! If you libs were so interested in helping you would do things like mission to help their communities build farms, give them medicine, to help them get it right in their country so they do not have go through hell to be free. Your A COWARD! Like most other NYers! I WIN!

  • Oh my god, you really want me to keep talking to you. This is probably the first time you've ever talked to a girl in your life and that's why you won't leave me alone.

    I spelled that wrong because I was mocking you, honey.

    And all YOU'VE been doing besides spouting random garbage at me is calling me names, so now you're a hypocrite. Congratulations!

  • First, I had no idea you were a girl. By saying you are a girl I am assuming you a young lady who has not experienced enough in life to be in this discussion. Next I think you full of yourself and you did not mock me, you misspelled those words. There is no random spouting, there are direct responses to your accusations of racism and name calling. The only name calling I have done is to call you a coward for failing to properly respond to the statements I have made. All you have done is ....

  • .....continued to avoid pointing out a direct racist comment that you have accused me of stating. And further I have just taken the steps to note the fact that you support modern day SLAVERY of MEXICANS in SODUS NY so the farmers can avoid paying real wages to the WELFARE JUNKIES who crowd the streets of SODUS NY and many other parts of NY on a daily basis. Cancel welfare and you have plenty of workers. Mexicans stay home and fix their own country, because they then have no place to run to.

  • And yes, I have a very good life. As I hope you do too. But I will not be silent in the face of opression and the injustice of mordern day slaves. Just as these people at the CHURCH OF THE EPIPHANY and the the good DR. G beleive they are helping these people, I am on a crusade to point out that in order for these people to be helped they are being murdered, raped and held hostage every time they are encourged to cross the borders. They are then put to work as SLAVES in WAYNE COUNTY FARMS!

  • But HARLY, I will make a deal with you. You explain in a proper description of the racist comments I have made and why I am a racist, with out being derogatory towards me, I will let this conversation end. Also I was wrong, not only did I call you a Coward, I also called you retarded, a dumbass and stupid. But those are all just descriptive pronouns for the word liberal. I have lots of time. I have a job that allows me lots of computer time. So young lady, lets see what you can do.

  • Oh dear lord, FOUR messages?! I don't have time to read all that shit! I'm only reading the first one, you psycho!

    YES, I misspelled it wrong because I was mocking you. I originally said "wiiiiiiiiin" but I had to cut characters out. Don't be jealous just because you spell a word wrong every sentence.

    And no, you've called me more than a coward, so you're still a hypocrite.

    You've been yelling crap at me about farmers and Guatemalans and Texas, so yeah, RANDOM CRAP

  • Well CARLY, you have shown that you are nothing more than a half wit of very little intelligence. Your concerns are spelling and name calling. You can not focus long enough to make an intelligent response. You wonder why people like you are running this country into the dirt. GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR LIBERAL ASS and BACK UP YOUR STATEMENT OF RACISM. But the truth is you cant. So why do you continue to come back? LOVE? Well you know where to find me. BFFE!!!

  • Ew, creeper. I bet you watch child pornography when you're not talking to me.

  • Good response Libarly, you just cant come up with any real substance. You are full of name calling and no real action. When are you going to back up your statements of racism? YOU CANT! So what are going to come up with next? Whats even creepier is you continue to return with bs comments even though you think I am creepy. You are too dumb to understand the mess you got yourself into and your stupidity is recorded FOREVER! FOREVER! FOREVER! FOREVER! Are you even old enough to vote?

  • I'm not going to dignify your racist dumb arguments with any response, you're not worth arguing with. You realize you're the only one getting worked up, and I'm just trying to piss you off because you're seriously amusing, right? Plus you're a 40-year old calling a young lady names. Pathetic.

  • I am not worth arguing with, you seem to be spending a lot of time here. Second, I love this, I have not had so much fun since my last hockey game, last night! There is nothing like checking the blackberry every half hour to see you responding. I am not 40. And you can throw any card (ie race card, age card, retard card) you want, but you are still the pathetic one. But I love you anyhow. BFF&E! I cant wait for a real response to your racist comments! IBW!

  • I can point out that you're racist without explanation, get over it. And even if I did provide one, there'd be no point. It's not like you'd go "Oh, okay, you're right." You're just trying to waste my time, I'm not stupid.

  • No, you can call someone a racist with no bases, without an explanation. I am not forcing you to be here, so you are wasting your own time. But I enjoy watching you squirm like a libworm. All hot air, just like Al Gores global warming!

  • that should be basis, not bases! Again just typing on youtube and not checking it until after I post, but now you have me paranoid.

  • Uh, you need to chill with the fucking politics. You don't know my political beliefs, so it'd be mature if you'd stop pretending you do, honey.

  • Nice mouth for a "lady". Just as you can make a baseless claim of racism; I can make a claim of your liberal tendencies. The difference is I have evidence from your statements to support my basis. You have hot air! Bring it on!

  • I have reasons, there's just no point in explaining them because based off your personality so far, it wouldn't mean anything and would just give you more to argue with me about.

    So let's play your game then, YOU prove it. Give me reasons why I'm a liberal, along with a definition of liberal, not YOUR definition. The truth is that you're just generalizing and think because I like Mexicans I must love Al Gore and be like a "typical lib" blah blah blah. Wow, you're like Sherlock Holmes! Amazing!

  • Also, you're sexist by commenting on my "mouth" for saying fuck, when you're allowed to used profane words like dumbass. So, what do we have so far, racist, judgmental, sexist, hypocrite. :|

  • OK, now we are playing games! I sent you a friend request, no response. There are things we both can discuss out of the lime light. Like I said, you can throw any card you chose, I left out the SEXIST card. So i guess you have a suit! But truth me told, you will lose here no matter what. You need to listen to Billy Currington, People are Crazy! That is you and i. A liberal today is code for a Marxist Commie Obama supporting left wing Anti Freedom Commie! IN MY BOOK! A real liberal is a ....

  • To be a real liberal is a cross between NH live free or Die and VT's actual laws of freedoms. Also note TX and AK. that is liberal free of government. But judging by your support of this web video post, ie:" the people praying and being arrested" you are an out of touch Marxist looking for another fight. Right now I am in the mood of 2am, GOD IS GREAT, beer is good, PEOPLE are CRAZY!

  • But to be a real liberal you would have to give up your real idea of all people desreve everything policy, which is what you really believe. OK it is too far past my hockey game to type this in public. You know how to find me, BFF&E!

  • That's a whole lot of judgments to make about someone who's refused to talk about the politics you keep trying to engage me in debate about, and purposely hardly even said anything of substance - as you've liked to point out in every response.

  • Your up pretty L8 waiting on my response. I have been playing hockey and drinking beer. AND you want me to comment on a whole lot of my judgements on you opinions. When in fact I have found the dead, the living and rescued those in the slave trade. Lady you can continue to thow what ever card you want. YOU HAVE NO CLUE!! YOU are a talking head. a repeat after me offender! YOU want to talk real life! contact me outside of youtube. Otherwise GOD BLESS YOU and pray you never feel thier pain!

  • Lmao, don't flatter yourself. unlike your lazy ass, I'm a student and I'm on my computer doing homework and research all day and night and I get notified when I get your dumb responses. Next time I'll wait a day to respond so you don't feel special.

    Also, most of what you just said made no sense. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and credit that to the beer you mentioned.

  • Well I read them now and they still convay the same message I intended. This string is not about you or your liberal view. This string has been about your unwillingness to provide evidence as to why I am racist as YOU stated! As far as profanity goes, it takes a real nice girl to use those big nasty words. So we can see who you really are. A nasty college girl who waits until 3am to do her assignment to boost her 2.0 gpa!

  • Nope, fail. I guess you can't read. I said doing assignments ALL DAY, I guess because you were a loser in college that waited til 2 in the morning to do everything and had a 2.0 you assume everyone else is too. Secondly, no, this string is about your unwillingness to shut up, and my unwillingness to let you think you're the shit. Also, "it takes a real nasty girl to use those words"? You're just proving my point that you're sexist, sexist, sexist.

  • Zarly, NOPE. It is time to put you back on track. Your liberal brain washing is kicking in: Liberal Rule #1: when you cant make a valid point resort to name calling and change the subject! So Zarly, why am I a racist?

  • I don't know why you're racist, sir. Perhaps it was because of how you were raised? I'm not a psychologist though.

  • OK, obviously we are going to play childrens games. Garly, at the beinging of this string you made the statement that I was a racist. Would please explain to the rest of the class why you made that statement?

  • I don't feel like sharing, teacher, because I feel my opinions will just be argued with and I don't feel like doing that. Everyone else can just deny it and move on with their lives, I really don't care.

  • So Darlyson, you state that because I pointed out that there are many criminal aliens that the people of Sodus NY have aided and that the WHITE farmers and the church members in SODUS NY are aiding in the SLAVE trade of Mexicans and Guatemalans for their own profits that I am a racist. Is this statement of yours correct?

  • No, Church of Bologna, and I don't know why you're so obsessed with proving you're not racist when nobody on here even knows who you are. It's not like you have a reputation to protect. You're just using it as an excuse to argue politics with me, which - to be frank - sounds really boring and pointless. Sorry, maybe somebody else who finds it more exciting will.

  • Harlychan, So after all this you are telling me you are just going to say that I am not racist or that I made racist stereotyping statements! How on earth am I going to have an argument with you over this issue! Well, OK, have a nice weekend!

  • This is funny, these people are here illegally taking american jobs, not paying taxs they should get cought and be sent back to mexico. Just like the border patrol needs the National Guard on the border helping them out to stop this bullshit. If the Mexican people want to be her in the US then they should do it the right way and get there green card and pay taxes like Americans do.

  • Dam right my friend!

  • You know, it IS the law to be legal here in the U.S. so if the church attendance has gone down in fear that they will be deported by border patrol well, then there are the people who are in the U.S. illegally. It's nothing sad. It's not because they're Hispanic. It's because they're illegal. Now whether anyone agrees with the standards for U.S. citizenship or not the law is the law and is to be obeyed. If you want to change things don't go against your law enforcement. Talk to the government.

  • Our country is in danger and we do not need you people behaving this way towards those who would protect us. Go away and let these good people do their jobs! Please understand that our country is in DANGER. It is not the 60s anymore. Let them protect us!!!

  • Fucked up shit.

  • Well thank you MexicanXBackstabb for the support. It is too bad that sometimes you have to talk to folks like these here yankees to get them to get their heads out of their asses.

  • the preceeding comments were directed at who made, participated in, and put up this vid, not at ChurchEpiphany.

    To the supporters of immigration your time has come look at the borders you SHIT EATING SMILE LIBERALS. one day it will hit your town as it as hit all others. and when it does there wont be a GOD DAMN THING you can do about it! FOOLS! YOU are inviting latinos to turn your town into another LA, THATS LOS ANGELES for you UNWORLDLY MORONS. i think they should deport YOU!

  • later when your wretched little town becomes more congested the latinos will take over JUST LIKE THEY DO EVERYWHER ELSE YOU WITHERED OLD BIDDIE!! WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO THEN? if your god damned daughter as FAT AND UGLY as YOU are?? dont worry the latino gang will be more than happy to rape her too! hey BITCH you like paying your TAXES for these FUCK'S WELFARE?? maybe they'll bring in some DISEASES too!! you think youre something special but you and your church will go down witth the rest of them!

  • this is for you fat fuck church bitches. i cant WAIT till a hispanic gang takes over YOUR block! dont worry youre only supporting lawbreakers. you FAT LIBERAL CUNTS are playing games with the police and YOU ARE DEFENDING ILLEGALS how do you expect people to take YOUR FAT ASS SERIOUSLY when youre defending illegals? whos gonna protect you when the police become more and more corrupt?

  • Are they afraid because they are here illegally?

  • look at their own countries they left behind. They are here to stay. They can not fend for themselvse. They can not take back their governments in the manner we once did. Because now they feed from your hand. And can not do anything for themselves. And what expense. One you do not care about. The expense of a fallen nation, that will no longer be able to help anyone anymore, let alone itself. The sad part is you are proud of what you have done. As long as this video is up I will be here!

  • and as we all know cats and illegal aliens are no different, they bring their friends, mates and soon their litters. Then you have a whole pride to feed every day, it goes from being a nice gesture to a burdern on the wallet. Now you may be able to afford it out of your wallet, but what about my wallet? Did you think about my wallet and the mouths I have had to feed. No. Because you do not think about the things you cant see in my house. You think you did a good thing for these people. Well..

  • greatness of this nation. We are becoming a third world nation. Soon you will no longer have to go to Guatemala to help provide services. Those same services will be needed right here. And you helped tear down the walls of greatness. There is one thing I learned over my 60+ years, if you feed a cat, it will return day after day. If you force the cat to feed it self. It will go off on its own to learn to survive. You my friend prefer to feed the cat. So now it will come back to your hand for food

  • So for my final words I will make it good. I am retired and have nothing better to do other than watch my fields grow. I have taken an oath, much like you have, but mine is to protect the US Constitution. People like you are out to destroy the US Constitution with your own agendas. An agenda to help other is not a bad thing, but when it begins to destroy the foundation for which this country was founded on, then it becomes a problem. Yes, illegal aliens are a problem which is destroying the...

  • Ya know jl, for being as smart as one would expect you to be your not. It must be nice to collect medicare fees on patients who do not have insurance. For one who wants to use a public forum to post his views on a topic and then use the same forum to block others from commenting on the topic is pretty hypocritical. Say what you want, that is fine with me. But I will be the opposing view for as long as this video is up. And all you can do now is close it for comments.

  • incorrect. They, in fact, have arrested US citizens.

  • So if in fact US Citizens have been arrested, what were they arrested for? Who were they arrested by? The border patrol? The Wayne County Sheriff? The State Police? WHO? And for what crime? If in fact they were arrested by Border Patrol, for no real reason, then where are your lawsuits? Where are your complaints to the US Attornies Office? You do not have any! Why because you are full of half truths. The truths that support your cause, to allow illegal aliens to roam free in SODUS NY!

  • "Authority to search conveyances.-Immigration officers are authorized to board and search any vessel, aircraft, railway car, or other conveyance or vehicle in which they believe aliens ARE BEING BROUGHT INTO (emphasis mine) the United States."INA, act 235. This does not supercede the Bill of Rights: federal, state, or local law enforcement do not have the legal right to stop someone based on race or skin color.

  • Do not forget Sec 287, and the rest of the INA. These are not the only sections of lawful laws created by the US Congress under the authority of the United States Constitution. Again Sec 287 (1) to interrogate any alien or person believed to be an alien as to his right to be or to remain in the United States; This says nothing about convayances or trains or anything other than suspected of being. And see the Border Patrol has not arrested any US Citizens in SODUS NY, I guess they do a good job!

  • Ecludabel at entry removabale when found. Since when is it against the law for a law enforcement agency to drive down a public street? To apprehwend thsoe aliens illegaly in the USA, to prevent the entry of aliens to illegaly enter the USA and to apprehend the smugglers of aliens illegaly in the USA. It is us and no one else. We are not protectors.

  • It is called the 4th amendment to the US constitution and reaffirmed in the 8th circuit Court of Appeals: illegal search and seizure. To stop someone because of their skin color IS illegal.

  • Stop ! I'm Catholic. The Border Patrol may drive any where in the USA within its OA. My wife is Mexican. What does a Mexican look like? Refer to the INA Act, Sec 235 & 274. The Patrol may questions those that reasonable cause dicate.

  • The Supreme Court is the law of the Land; therfore, the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals in subordinate. This subordinate court does not hold the United States of America hostage.

  • If it is happenning then where are the lawsuits coming out of SODUS, NY. They arrest lots of wetbacks in SODUS NY all the time. WHERE ARE THE LAW SUITS. WHERE ARE THE COMPLAINTS IN THE UNITED STATES ATTORNIES OFFICE IN ROCHESTER NY? There are none. becuase you are all talk and no action. You have two faced fight, if the Constitution and the laws of the land do not suit your needs, you turn to the bible to defend your illegal, tax sucking, welfare apple hog boning, wet backs.

  • I would never try to keep someone from church but the bottom line is they are illegal. They are afaird of everything because they are breaking the law. I love God and they should come legally or the goverment is to do it

  • Then read your Bible if you are using that as your guide. I can send you dozens of references to the Bible, including the 10 commandments, if you request.

    the immigration laws are "broken" and should be fixed. Law enforcement chooses which laws they enforce on a daily basis. Don't pick immigration law as one to enforce under the guise of protecting us from terrorists. after over a million detentions and several billion dollars they have not picked up one Latino terrorist.

  • Wow, that sounds kind of racist to me. Should we only enforce immigration laws against middle easterners? Are you saying that "Latino terrorist" do not exist? Ever heard of FARC? How about Padilla, the dirty bomb plot guy?

  • I did not say that there are no Latino terrorists; i said that the Border Patrol have not detained and indicted a single Latino as a terrorist of the United States. Please don't misstate what I have written.

  • Then what is the point of your statement? Borders should be open because no latino terrorists have been arrested by the Border Patrol? I don't understand.

  • Jose Padilla? Hhmm, that sounds like a latio name. Of course you mean only latios from other countries other than the USA. And of course: Juan Martinez, 28, living Lake Road in Sodus, Martinez is accused of kicking his girlfriend several times in the stomach, killing her baby. that is not a terrorist. Just a wet who killed a baby. Well maybe the baby was going to stop him from going to your church. Then he had the right to do what he did! YOU SUPPORT CRIMINAL ILLEGAL ALIENS!

  • Who says they are picking immigration law to fight terrorist activty. US Border Patrol have had one mission since 1925, to seek and arrest illegal aliens. Is that not what they are doing in SODUS NY? That mission is now added to the new mission under Fatherland Security!

  • And if you can show me one LEGAL ALIEN in SODUS NY was arrested for no cause, show me your FEDERAL LAW SUIT for CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATIONS! You are protecting wetbacks because you are a wetlover! That is all there is to it! The rights granted under the constitution were created for the people, by the people in order to protect the people of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Not the wet backs sneaking to pick crops so your sodus children can get knocked up and high and refuse to work and collect welfare

  • But laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors.Thomas Jefferson.

  • Amendment XIV Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States....this does not include anyone else. Jefferson stated that the fate of the constitution is at the mercy of the future generations. He also feared the future of political corruption and the damage it will do to the nation. Which is what your kind are doing today to this great nation.

  • There are no comments that would change the mind of a racist, so instead I will just quote Thomas Jefferson. Please read the Bill of Rights and the Ten Commandments. I could introduce you to many legal Hispanics who have been harrassed by law enforcement. also, please check out the 4th circuit court of appeals, 04/08.

  • Who is the racist! This is my nation and I will defend it. You are a fool. I have read them and the Holy Bible. I am a racist trying to shut the door to those trying to take what we have earned. But you are the fool holding the door open. Your open society ideas are what cause crimes in this nation. Speaking of open doors, when are you going to post your address, how many guns you have in your home,and if you leave the door unlocked for anyone to come into your house when they please.

  • Not that I have any ill intent, because I cherish my freedom. But I lock my doors, have loaded guns and do not invite the uninvited onto my ranch. But you on the other hand should be open to allowing anyone to roam through your stead, as you like to allow them to roam through our lands here in South Texas to get to your welfare shack in SODUS, NY. You are Americans downfall. You are a fool. You are a coward.

  • And for your hispanic friends who are HARRASSED by law enforcement: INA: ACT 287 - POWERS OF IMMIGRATION OFFICERS AND EMPLOYEE Sec. 287. [8 U.S.C. 1357](a) Any officer or employee of the Service authorized under regulations prescribed by the Attorney General shall have power without warrant-

    (1) to interrogate any alien or person believed to be an alien as to his right to be or to remain in the United States; So if they are USC they should file a complaint, which they do not because.....

  • ...they are legal aliens subject to inspection at anytime. But the ones you are concerned about are the HONDOs, GUATS or Mexicans who are wetbacks! Oh, I guess that is my racist Tejano side coming out again. Its ok the hands I have on my ranch call me Senor Guerro. But thats ok with me. You just do not want to admitt it but you are a wetlover, looking to use any means to keep the law from doing the lawfully duty of removing the wets who work on your apple orchard. Even if they kill babies.

  • The only people who are afraid of LE are the ones who break the law. Illegals HAVE NO AMENDMENT RIGHTS.

  • Please read the Bill of Rights. There is no statement that one must be an American citizen to have legal rights in this country; that is one of the basic principles of our democracy.

  • That is totally inaccurate. Documented Latinos, including US citizens are also harrassed and frightened by LE. This is the same racial attitudes related to the African American community.

    Everyone in this country has constitutional rights, including those in the Bill of Rights. That is the basic tenant of our democracy. Try reading the 2nd and 4th amendment and see if you can find the word "citizen."

  • jlg..How many documented Latinos have been arrested by the border patrol. Show me one that has been harrased past the point of checking their green cards. And by the way any "ALIEN" Legal or illegal does have to submit to inspection by an immigration officer. The Preamble states: We the People of the United States" So there is your citizens. It does not say "We the people of Mexico, Guatemala who are visiting or illeglly working here". GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT and stop helping wet backs!

  • No Ralph this is where I got bored and decided to drag out some conversation. So RALPH how about you make the case for your slanted "FACT" of people being arrested "for going to church"! Second I live in South Texas, 90%hispanic (MEXICAN). I am Tejano. A true Texan, of Mexican decent, Anti Mexican as in Mexicans of Mexico! I dislike illegals from all nations. So RALPH, how about backing up your DUMBASS ARREST COMMENT, instead of pulling an Obama and running! Fact is, you cant back your comment!

  • "take payers" should be "tax payers", "traing" should be "train" I do not always take time to spell check. If I am going to call someone a dumbass I need to be a bit more careful with my spelling. But it is better that I correct it before some DUMBASS does!

  • RalphNelson, get a clue! You really are a dunb ass if you think that the police or border patrol are arresting people who are "JUST GOING TO CHURCH." You are the reason this country needs to get rid of the political left brain washing machine. Why dont you save the take payers some money and go stand in front of a fast moving traing and try to stop it with one hand like superman. DUMBASS!

  • Americans who are apologetic for being American should move to Mexico. This church would do well in Mexico.

  • Border Patrol should look for illegals where they are, duh. That would be effective use of our tax dollars. Criminal trespassers have a right to a trip to jail and deportation. If U.S. citizens have a say, they'll have a right to a year in a concentrated labor camp before deportation. You obviously don't live where the Mexican gangs and criminals affect your life, YET.

  • JGL, Are you voting for NOBAMA, because you are about as bright as box of grey rocks, so that would put you in the NOBAMA isle. Police and Border Patrol have been successfully arresting wetbacks in and around SODUS, NY, and non have been sued or even disiplined. YOUR NONFACTS are so screwed up! I hope they catch a wetback in you church van and then they seize it and then arrest the driver under 8 USC 1324! I have been calling ICE in Rochester to make sure they know about you and your church! LOL

  • ....filing a law suit for such a violation. WHY? Because it did not happen. PROVE IT IF IT DID!!! Next NY STATE LAW and FEDERAL law allow officers to question occupants in a vehicle during a motor vehicle stop. Next a police officer can ask any questions he or she pleases, they have 1st amendment rights too. Where in the US Constitution or under what case law does it prohibit an officer from speaking to any person they choose. under the INA any ALIEN, ILLEGAL OR LEGAL MUST SUBMIT TO THE LAW!

  • JLG, So the next time MARTINEZ decides to kill a baby, should he say he was on his way to church, there fore his 1st Amend rights would protect him from Arrest! STFU! YOU ARE AN IDIOT. In order of the wet backs to get to SODUS, NY they have to violate 8 USC 1325, and make an illegal entry. They violate the law, they are subject to arrest. 1st Amend has no role in this, which proves you are an idiot! On the 4th amendment, where was the illegal seizure, where is your lawyer, why are you not....

  • and asking for documentation.

  • The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

    the 4 amendment has again been interpreted in the 8th circuit court of appeals that it is not legal for stopping a motor vehicle because of skin color

  • Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    The legal interpretation of the First Amendment is that anything that prevents someone from going to church is a violation of the amendment. There is no question of citizenship in the amendment.

  • That sounds really ignorant. Does going to church make you immune from the law? If I burglarize a house and then head to church are the police not allowed to stop me?

  • It has been pretty quite in this site...Abr00s, jlg what happened? Can you not answer the questions....truthfully! Again the truth prevails. I'll be watching and waiting!!!kickemharder sure kickedem to the curb! Good job!

  • ....WETBACKS complained about their 1st and 4th Amendment rights being violated by the police or the USBP? If so where are the lawsuits? There are none. Why? Because your hispanic friends are illegal aliens. And they are arrested and removed as per the laws of th land. So now what is you next useless comment going to be? No one has stopped your church from having mass, no one has infringed on your right to film people at work. Are you afraid if the USBP takes all your wets you will have to work?

  • jlg: first off you are right about the 1st amendment. We have the right to speak our minds and protest the government. What does the 1st Amendment have to do with this blog? I am a strong supporter of the unenumerated rights of the people and the Bill of Rights.

    Second, is the flag of the USA a power device? As far as the Confederate Flag is concerned, refer to the 1st Amendment and know how it is applied. What violations of the 1st and the 4th have to police violated? Have any of your......

  • I have been trying to comment but without success. To respond to several people:

    First, it is racist to speak of the rebel flag as a power device. It is racist to speak of the "wetbacks."

    Second people continually talk to me that we must follow and enforce the laws of this country. We must also realize that everyone in this country has constitutional rights. Please do a little research on the Bill of Rights specifically the 1st and 4th amendments. Our police should enforce but also should obey.

  • Your quote "Those who enforce the law". Live in Texas and I'm sure your opinion would change. What if they were illegal Iranians? I'm sure your church would not be so open. Ever hear this? "Obey the laws of the land." Oh wait! Its not their land so I guess it doesn't apply.

  • There are not ILLEGAL'S fighting in Iraq! LEARN HOW TO WRITE ENGLISH!! How stupid are you! Your not only a MORON and an IDIOT, your just plain STUPID!!! Don't waste my time! I can tell, your just a DUMB FUCKING MEXICAN! GO HOME ILLEGAL!!! YOUR NOT WANTED HERE IN AMERICA!!! MY FORFATHER'S FOUGHT AND DIED FOR THIS COUNTRY AND I'LL BE DAMNED IF A I'LL LET A BUNCH OF STUPID WETBACK TAKE IT!! BYE-BYE!!!

  • First of all, there's no need for an apostrophe in the way you're utilizing "forefathers"...a word that you also misspelled. There's actually quite a few misspellings in your rant. Perhaps it's you who should learn to write in English before you start berating others.

    Second, your forefathers were most likely immigrants too. There's no doubt that they faced then many of the challenges that the people in this video are facing now.

  • amandine44, All you TROLLS say the same thing....blah, blah, blah, blah. GO HOME ILLEGAL'S...!!!

  • I'm a troll? Really? When you can present your perspective with facts and rational thought instead of childish name-calling, capital letters and superfluous exclamation points, I'll take your insult seriously.

  • * encourages that alien to remain in the U.S. by referring him or her to an employer or by acting as employer or agent for an employer in any way, or

    * knowingly assists illegal aliens due to personal convictions.

    hat alien to remain in the U.S. by referring him or her to an employer or by acting as employer or agent for an employer in any way, or

    * knowingly assists illegal aliens due to personal convictions.

  • The sheriff knew this guy was an illegal who committed a violent act in the past, the judge knew this info, the farmer knew this info. Did NANCY know this info? If NANCY was not so concerned with filming the USBP for this video, then maybe the USBP would have caught Martinez before he killed this child. GOOD JOB NANCY, I hope you are proud of SODUS NY! BOYCOTT NY, BOYCOTT, SODUS NY, BOYCOTT NY PRODUCE!

  • but that he had been on their list for deportation after losing several appeals to stay in the country. Healy said that Martinez's conviction record was never put on his "rap" sheet, a situation that has now been corrected. The INS (Immigration and Naturalization Service) now has a hold on Martinez.

    IF the sheriff was so concerned about helping the farmers with thier illegal workers should haver read "IF the sheriff was NOT so concerned about helping the farmers with thier illegal workers.

  • and eventually released on bail, and fled the area to North Carolina. Martinez was arrested in North Carolina and extradited back to Wayne County, where he was convicted of the original charges, along with Bail Jumping. He served 8 months in Wayne County Jail on those convictions and was released.

    Healy said it was unclear why Immigration officials were not notified. The Times has learned that U.S. Immigration officials were never notified of Martinez's past convictions,

  • Now what do have to say. The murder of this child could have been avoided, IF the sheriff was so concerned about helping the farmers with thier illegal workers. Good Job Wayne County NY. Records show that Martinez was arrested in 2004 after he beat another girlfriend with an extension cord while living in the Town of Huron. He was charged with Assault in the 3rd Degree, Criminal Possession of a Weapon. He was not held for being an illegal migrant. He was arraigned and remanded to jail,

  • jlg: Please elaborate where my comments are racist, instead of making the statement and leaving. These are facts, the wet back murdered a baby, the county government and the Sodus Church assited his illegal stay and even encourge it. All the land in the world was once occupied by some one other than the current owners. Where are my comments not factual, where is the racist remarks? Your turn... lets hear some facts.

  • very sad...its really is....:{(

  • Kickemharder, thank you for your response. Although your comments are racist and based on literally no documented facts, I appreciate any and all comments as it continues this important discussion.

  • And Cortesosita, I have a job. A real one that allows me to enjoy the money to sit on my rear and type on this computer. Civil Rights in the USA where fought for and given to Americans. If Mexicans want them, tell them to fight their corrupt gov for them. That is their problem. Yes you have the right... but they do not! Some day the Rebel Flag will fly again. And you better do your history before commenting on this one. You yanks have no guns and no balls. So the northeast will fall!

  • I do not disagree. They were called Tejanos. I live in South Texas and am very familiar with the battles of Santa Ana, Emiliano Zapata, Pancho Villa, the Battle of Guadelupe and the Alamo. There were many Tejanos who fought the Mexican government troops, Why? Because they wanted to be Texans, free from the oppressive rules of DF. They did not want to be Mexicans. So what is your comment about borders now? Being Mexican was not a racist issue, it was being a person from Mexico. They wanted to be

  • Tejanos. Free people who were living in the Republic of Texas. So what is your point? What about the Mexicans who live in the United States illegally? What about the Mexicans who kill Americans? These people are aliens, ie foriegners who are in the USA. They are tax and health issues. I believe in legal aliens coming through the gates to do the work. READ THE ABOVE POSTS. This is about a county gov and a church that aided illegal aliens. They frown on the US Border Patrol

  • who are only doing the job that most Americans have asked the government to do. To find illegal aliens and remove them. This church and Wayne county want to protect illegals from the USBP, and in their efforts they protected an illegal alien who then killed a baby. Illegals kill Americans very often. We have our own killers. Close the gates and make these people identify themselves before we let them in. Did you know that if you have a criminal record in the USA, Canada will not let you visit?

  • Why can't we have that policy with Mexico. No you are not going to get all the bad guys. But at least the bad guys will not be wandering across the open border to randomly live an undetectable life and to do as they please, which includeds gang activity and murder (ie Resendez Ramirez). The border patrol and ICE are randomly striking cities and little farm towns hunting for these illegal aliens. And I hope they do not stop. I hope they put the town of Sodus NY out of business. God Bless Texas!!

  • What proof do you have that God put American next to Mexico. America was founded by European Immigrants, Mexico was founded by European Immigrants. Could I please name a specific individual. GO BACK AND READ THE POSTS. HIS NAME IS MARTINEZ. Are we only going to condem the migrants when they KILL! Next Mexico is in the top 10 of oil rich countries. THey can take care of their own. But instead they make esclavas of the poor and force them to come here and face death in the deserts and at the hands

  • smugglers and others who take advantage of them so that the Mexican gov can reap the bennifets of the millions of dollars a year the migrants send back to mexico. Mexicans are slaves at the hands of the farms, the prostition rings (which includes children), constuction crews that use them in abspestos removal, and other health jobs that usually require high paying wages. You are encourging Americans to take advantage of these poor people. Yes it is more money than they would ever have in Mexico.

  • But, do you really enjoy the fact that the farmers take $300 a pay check out of their checks to pay for the smugglers duties. The fact that smugglers rape almost all women along the border, steal their children, abuse them, kill them or leave them for dead in the heat of summer. I have seen it. You can live in your rosey colored world. But you are encourging and supporting the activities. Ask them some day. I do every day. They will tell you how dangerous it is. How the women were in rape groups

  • How they were held in stash houses in Phoenix or Houston while they waited for someone to pay the ransom. How the smugglers were carring guns and beat some of the people in the group. You create bussiness for the smuggler just so your Christian beliefs can help them. GOOD JOB!!! Someday you should come to laredo and see for yourself. Other wise keep the smugglers in bussiness and continue to help Wayne County to cover up crimes committed by illegal aliens. Someday it may be some one you know.

  • Farmers in the USA use wet labor for one reason, costs. You ever see a farmers bank account, ever see a farmers house or the number of properties they own? They are cheap and they are costing innocent peoples their lives because of greed! Many farms are now hiring legal people from the Dom Rep and from Puerto Rico. Why Puerto Rico? Why are they still using "hispanics" and not whites and blacks who are on welfare in the USA. Where is the racist issue now!

  • Thats great history information.But what idioma do the "Mexicans" use whose food and culture do they use? They are spanish, there are few natives left in Mexico who are real native. Just as there are few natives left in the USA. WHY? Because they lost!They were conquered by the Europeans! Move on! Again.. Mexico can take care of its own people but they make maps and give them rides to the border to become slaves for the Mexican gov and you are helping them be slaves!

  • Yes Americans love SLAVE LABOR, they always have! Bring more illegals in to work 90 hour weeks with no overtime at $5 an hour! Next time you talk to a real illegal who is not standing around el patron, and is willing to really tell you his wages, minus the "BONUS" the farmer takes out of his pay each week that he will never see again! Help them..send them to Mexico with guns and ammo and some training. Let them help them selves to what belongs to them....Mexico.

  • cortesosita said: "For your sake I hope you are a native american, cuz if not"

    Please give it up. The Onondagas, Navaho, Papagos, and every other tribe, lost the wars! Too bad. You want it back try and take it! There is not a piece of land on earth that once belonged to anyone who once claimed it. It is called being conquered. your crooked overtaxed commie state that is in the hole 16 billion! You people really know how to budget, give give give give take take take give give. Nice budget!

  • jlghertner said " these are victimless "crimes" ;You're an idiot: Tell that to God and the new Angel when you get there.

  • mikeyfoucs said: This is an ECONOMIC issue people! If you want the US economy to continue to lose global competitiveness and want the social security system to totally collapse when you stop taking $...

    yes mikeyfcass, illegals are going to save our SS system. Your bright! Voting out Shummer, Clinton, Pelosi and such will stop the over spending on places like NYC and SANFRAN welfare with federal money, that will save SSI.

  • I bet you folks in SODUS are a bunch of left wingers (of course you are it is in NEW YORK) who will vote for Hussian due to his voting recording on supporting Abortion. Your Church of the Epiphany is so godly! I hope you are proud of protecting the Hispanic people who fear the police!

    The baby girl was a US Citizen by birth, who was the mom? The father is an illegal alien and a murderer! Thank you Sheriff Piscoitti, and Church of the Epiphany in SODUS New YORK. Boycott SODUS NEW YORK farms.

  • The headline was:

    Wayne County (NEW YORK) baby's death ruled a homicide.

    It got mashed in the post.

    Richard J. Pisciotti, Sheriff; 38 Rt. 31; Lyons, NY 14489; 315-946-9711

    315-946-5811 (Fax).

    Church in this video: Rev. Symon Peter Ntaiyia Church of the Epiphany 105 W. Main St., Sodus, 315.483.6111, fax 315.483.0325

    You want to use Youtube for your venue of expressing how bad it is to enforce the laws of the United States. well you can have it. that is the USA i love!

  • Richard J. Pisciotti, Sheriff Lyons, NY 14489;315-946-9711; 315-946-5811 (Fax).Sheriff Pisciotti has a policy to protect the farmers in Wayne County New York and a policy of telling his deputies to not call immigration officials when they arrest illegals in Wayne County for any offense. If found that this wetback has criminal record in Wayne County and was not turned over to INS, then they are guilty of murder of this child too.

  • Juan Martinez, 28, living Lake Road in Sodus already faces a felony charge of first-degree assault in connection with the injuries suffered by his girlfriend. Healy, citing the felony complaint against Martinez, said

    Martinez is accused of kicking his girlfriend several times in the stomach, beating her with an electrical cord and punching her in the face. She was about 26 weeks pregnant, said Wayne County (NEW YORK)

  • Nancy, we just want you to know you are doing a great job helping the ILLEGAL ALIENS in SODUS, NEW YORK. I bet Rev. Symon Peter Ntaiyia and his Church of the Epiphany in SODUS, NEW YORK is proud of this headline:Wayne County (NEW YORK) baby's death ruled a homicideHealy said Juan Martinez, an illegal immigrant (ILLEGAL ALIEN) from Mexico, was an employee on the farm (Possible Lake Breeze Inc or Burnap farms, to be announced for sure once we find out who hired this illegal alien).

  • continuation of last post . . .

    This is something we need to seriously consider. It affects all native born U.S. citizens:

    Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops, but 29% are on welfare. Over 70% of the United States' annual population growth (and over 90% of California, Florida , and New York) results from immigration. 29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens.

    God Bless those wishing to come to the U.S. But we really would rather you just stay home or go back.

  • continuation of the last post . . . .

    Nearly 35% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally

    Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.

    The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.

    Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.

    In L. A. County 5.1 million people speak English, 3.9 million speak Spanish.

    (10.2 million people in L. A. County. )

  • I'm not sure how many have seen the following statistics. They were extracted from articles in the Los Angeles Times. I know it isn't upstate New York, but this seems to be happening all over. I, for one, am very, very concerned.

    95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.

    75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.

    Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal , whose births paid by taxes.

  • Wally ask your church to pray for these people: look up website :immigrations human cost One American Death by