Some great footage there m8 5*, my only memories of these beasts were when stagecoach ribble operated them on route 25 manchester bolton. Great memories.
Some great footage there m8 5*, my only memories of these beasts were when stagecoach ribble operated them on route 25 manchester bolton. Great memories.
One car I came across, you have to use a hand held device just to adjust the idle speed. How pathetic. What is wrong with the previous throttle stop screw method? I prefer a vehicle that I can work on myself without main dealer intervention. I am sure new vehicles are designed so you have to specifically take them to the main dealer only, therefore resulting in more profit for them. It is their way of saying, "you buy the car from me, you pay me to fix it, so there".
I take it they don't use Nationals any more. What is the size of their fleet? I often view your Chase Bus videos, and can't help wondering if that company actually made any profit because all their buses seemed virtually empty in service.
I think you must have found all of my National video's lol. Fishwick's isn't that big, but big enough to be quite well known. As for Chase, they ran most of their services day time in the week, with a reduced Saturday service. They got a share in the West Midlands ranger tickets which I often used, and many will be bought daily. I guess their buses were cheap to run too, so profit would be quite good.
I suppose the good thing about older vehicles in general, is they aren't strangled by so many regulations, plus the build quality is of a different nature, thus making runnings costs cheaper. Also, to fix something like a National, a mechanic doesn't have to rely soley on electronic diagnostic equipment. Many people would rather have an old banger of a car than the latest techno BMW, mainly because if you know how, you can fix it yourself rather than forfeiting the expence of the BMW dealer.
Despite being around 25 years old, the ride quality is much better than more recent buses. It's nice to travel on a 'real' bus for a change.
Earlier Nationals had 0.680 engines with later ones having a TL11 or the non-turbocharged L11 equivalent. The TL11 was an updated and turbocharged O.680, but wasn't as durable.
You can get some good thrash out of a MK2, but this was going slow through Preston. Yes MK2's did have a slightly different sort of engine to the MK1's.
It does have a Leyland engine, similar to your video on BYW418V (I think) I am not all that knowledgable on different types of gearboxes, but if I said it sounded like a semi-automatic?
428 was fully automatic.
MrSL798 3 months ago
bet the driver learned on an automatic
craigbeaumont414 10 months ago
I wish I could drive these rather than the crappy Enviros that I drive. These have soul.
1100HondaCB 1 year ago
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Some great footage there m8 5*, my only memories of these beasts were when stagecoach ribble operated them on route 25 manchester bolton. Great memories.
Mytimekid 2 years ago
Some great footage there m8 5*, my only memories of these beasts were when stagecoach ribble operated them on route 25 manchester bolton. Great memories.
Mytimekid 2 years ago
Where abouts is this filmed?
HondaH100A 2 years ago
Preston in 2006, I was so pleased to still get a National in service.
video47 2 years ago
One car I came across, you have to use a hand held device just to adjust the idle speed. How pathetic. What is wrong with the previous throttle stop screw method? I prefer a vehicle that I can work on myself without main dealer intervention. I am sure new vehicles are designed so you have to specifically take them to the main dealer only, therefore resulting in more profit for them. It is their way of saying, "you buy the car from me, you pay me to fix it, so there".
HondaH100A 3 years ago
Does Fishwick still exist, or have they been the demise of a greedy large bus company such as First.
HondaH100A 3 years ago
They still exist, but have a more modern fleet of VDL rubbish and stuff.
video47 3 years ago
I take it they don't use Nationals any more. What is the size of their fleet? I often view your Chase Bus videos, and can't help wondering if that company actually made any profit because all their buses seemed virtually empty in service.
HondaH100A 3 years ago
I think you must have found all of my National video's lol. Fishwick's isn't that big, but big enough to be quite well known. As for Chase, they ran most of their services day time in the week, with a reduced Saturday service. They got a share in the West Midlands ranger tickets which I often used, and many will be bought daily. I guess their buses were cheap to run too, so profit would be quite good.
video47 3 years ago
I suppose the good thing about older vehicles in general, is they aren't strangled by so many regulations, plus the build quality is of a different nature, thus making runnings costs cheaper. Also, to fix something like a National, a mechanic doesn't have to rely soley on electronic diagnostic equipment. Many people would rather have an old banger of a car than the latest techno BMW, mainly because if you know how, you can fix it yourself rather than forfeiting the expence of the BMW dealer.
HondaH100A 3 years ago
That basically is the same sort of idea that I read in Jeremy Clarkson's book last night, he doesn't like computerised diagnostic systems either.
video47 3 years ago
This auto gearbox has a very distinctive sound unlike most auto gearboxes.
HondaH100A 3 years ago
Despite being around 25 years old, the ride quality is much better than more recent buses. It's nice to travel on a 'real' bus for a change.
Earlier Nationals had 0.680 engines with later ones having a TL11 or the non-turbocharged L11 equivalent. The TL11 was an updated and turbocharged O.680, but wasn't as durable.
lesleytaylor10 4 years ago
Earlier National 2s had O.680s I meant.
Mk1 Nationals had the 510 'headless wonder' engine.
lesleytaylor10 4 years ago
I remember some MK 2's having a Gardner engine too, I have yet to track one down and film a ride.
video47 4 years ago
Yes, that's right. Blackpool Transport's four National 2s had turbocharged Gardner 6HLXCT.
lesleytaylor10 4 years ago
its a Leyland TL11 couple to a hydracyclic 4 speed auto leyland box. And in damn good fettle
nightfire620 4 years ago
it sounds like the leyland 0.680 engine or the TL11 engine?
jaggass 4 years ago
More than likeley an 0.680 I would imagine.
video47 4 years ago
yes i think the atlantean had the same engine but they had that cooling fan that roars like a beast
jaggass 4 years ago
The mark 2 didnt sound as thrashy as the mark 1, did these use a different engine?
L761cty 4 years ago
You can get some good thrash out of a MK2, but this was going slow through Preston. Yes MK2's did have a slightly different sort of engine to the MK1's.
video47 4 years ago
This is more thrashy than a MK.1
e37405 4 years ago
What engine and gearbox has this bus got?
TomMetrobus 4 years ago
It does have a Leyland engine, similar to your video on BYW418V (I think) I am not all that knowledgable on different types of gearboxes, but if I said it sounded like a semi-automatic?
video47 4 years ago
Leyland 0680 engine and a Leyland Hydracyclic gearbox (auto i seem to remember for this particular bus)
onejohn2007 4 years ago
Lovely! Sounds in top condition.
Robster981 4 years ago
sounds good for its age
jaggass 4 years ago