Creationism on Huffington Post. My interview part 3/6.

[Mogley52]

ALTHOUGH I'M A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN (Baptist), I no longer believe that the Bible teaches eternal torment or suffering. The Bible teaches eternal punishment, but it's not eternal torment. In my popular Internet article, TRADITIONAL DOCTRINE OF HELL EVOLVED FROM GREEK ROOTS, I explain how and why teaching of eternal torment entered early into Christianity and how Scriptures have been misinterpreted and taken out of context to support that teaching. ~Babu G. Ranganathan (B.A. theology/biology)

[Mogley52]

SCIENCE SHOWS THAT THE UNIVERSE could not have sustained itself eternally because of entropy (even in an open system). Einstein confirmed that space, matter, and time had a beginning! That beginning had to be supernatural because natural laws have no ability to bring the universe into existence from nothing. The supernatural cannot be proved by science but science points to a supernatural intelligence for the origin and order of the universe ~ HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM (Article)

[Mogley52]

CREATIONISTS RIGHT ABOUT ENTROPY. Read this Internet article. Entropy occurs in both open and closed systems. In every transfer of energy some of the energy becomes useless. Given enough time, all of the energy becomes useless and the universe cannot be sustained. Even in an open system, there has to be an already existing energy-converting, directing mechanism to develop order such as when a seed becomes a tree. Spontaneous order from chaos is not possible, not to any significant degree.

[Mogley52]

EINSTEIN CONFIRMED that space and time are just as physical as matter. That's why space and time can be altered by gravity, and space produces particles. Einstein's equations show that the universe couldn’t be eternal. It had a beginning. Einstein believed, because of science, in the existence of God behind the origin and order of the universe. He didn't believe in a personal God like Christians do, but he did believe science pointed to the existence of an all powerful and intelligent Creator.

[Mogley52]

ALL REAL EVOLUTION ( i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.) in nature is the expression, over time, of already existing genes. Evolution is possible only if there’s information (genes) directing it. Only variations of already existing genes are possible, which means only limited evolution and adaptations are possible. Nature has no ability to invent new genes via random mutations caused by random environmental forces. That’s evolutionary faith, not science. Read my article, WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!

[Mogley52]

DAWKINS, HITCHENS, AND HAWKING REFUSE TO DEBATE with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at The Institute for Creation Research. Dawkins and his friends only debate non-scientist creationists. Read articles by scientists supporting creation at The Institute for Creation Research site. Read analysis from creation scientists about the latest news concerning genetics, fossils, astronomy, etc. that you won't read in the main stream media. Visit Institute for Creation Research.

[Mogley52]

WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! This Internet article describes how evolutionary scientists are disagreeing over all the "evidence" traditionally used to support macro-evolution. I have given over a dozen lectures, including before evolution science faculty and students, refuting macro-evolution. At the end I would answer questions and arguments from the audience. The science faculty was mostly silent. They knew enough science to understand what I was saying was true.

[Mogley52]

EXPLAINING HOW AN AIRPLANE WORKS doesn't mean no one made the airplane. Explaining how life or the universe works doesn't mean there was no Maker behind them. Natural laws explain how the order in the universe works, but mere undirected natural laws can't explain the origin of that order. Once you have a complete, living cell then the genetic code/mechanisms exist to direct the formation of more cells, but how did the cell naturally originate when no directing code/mechanisms existed in nature?

[Ricardius1710]

I think another reason people just accept what people in their particular group tells them about evolution is that most of us are so illiterate to science, that we just can't get it, or we find it so boring, that we just tend to trust others that claim to have knowledge in this area of expertise.

[suniseclipsed]

"There is no dark side of the moon. In fact it's all dark" - Pink Floyd ;)

[jmcanoy1860]

Heterozygosity for cystic fibrosis is protective against cholera.

[EvolutionLIE]

" I signed the Scientific Dissent From Darwinism statement, because I am absolutely convinced of the LACK of True scientific evidence in favour of Darwinian dogma. Nobody in the biological sciences, medicine included, needs Darwinism at all. Darwinism is certainly needed, however, in order to pose as PHILOSOPHER, since it is primarily a worldview. And an awful one, as George Bernard Shaw used to say."

Dr. Leguizamon, Pathologist, and a Professor of Medicine at the at the Auto Uni,Mexico

[adafuns]

@EvolutionLIE if you take a closer look at the list, like 90% of them are not biologists. and the ones who are donexodus himself contacted them in one of his videos and asked them on their opinions on the matter. most of the scientists didn't even know their name was on the list and have asked the discovery institute to remove it yet they never did. the list is a fraud.

[EvolutionLIE]

@adafuns ...you've got a bag of excuses to convince yourself you're the progeny of hairy rock apes. I'd be focusing on the reality of the absurb philosophy, not whether you think a list is true or not.

are you suggesting there's not a lot of doctors, scientists who disagree with 'darwinism', which by the way, darwin ripped off pagan theory millenia earlier.

this modern generation are like fish in a barrel. You're being 'played' like a fiddle and don't even know it

Biology is for ladies

[EvolutionLIE]

@adafuns ...'biology' is for 'ladies' ..say no more ! 'they like to gossip and make uip stories just like ALL 'evolutionary philosophers'

evolution philosophy is Not Science but a 'belief system' based on pagan heritage.

[Feralus69]

@EvolutionLIE

"'biology' is for 'ladies' ..say no more ! 'they like to gossip and make uip stories just like ALL 'evolutionary philosophers'"

As of now you are never allowed to use antibiotics because its just gossip, nor are you allowed to have surgery that benefitted from anatomy which is a subset of biology. Nor are you allowed to use genetics in any way including parental testing. In fact, just throw out all hospitals altogether, because its just gossip like you said.

[Feralus69]

@EvolutionLIE

"evolution philosophy is Not Science but a 'belief system' based on pagan heritage."

There;s no such thing as evolution philosophy, the fact of evolution isn't based on a faith system nor is it based on anything pagan. stop lying.

"darwin ripped off pagan theory millenia earlier."

Really, cite your source.

"are you suggesting there's not a lot of doctors, scientists who disagree with 'darwinism'"

Darwinism is not a word, but about 99.8% of all scientists accept evolution

[Antimidation]

@EvolutionLIE You are so misguided I believe you to be a poe or just a satire artist...which ever the case, you are sadly misinformed, keep in mind that there is no CONTROVERSY to the contrary of evolution. Only people who don't understand the science and refuse to understand it.

[pumpstations]

HellOOOooo

Where did our creationist friends go? We are actually discussing real info and???

Poor fellas. Nef must have sent the bat signal to the tin foil hats.

[TAz69x]

I WISH Freddie Mercury was immune to AIDS!... o.O

=3

[Isakawa2501]

What happened at 4' 33"? 'Sounds like someone fell off his chair!

x

[TremorHellborn]

When DonExodus is talking slowly, he has a very similar voice to Kurt Cobain's.

[celestialsalamander]

I wish I was CCR5 delta 32 homoaiegous. maybe i am. does anyone know how i could find out?

[TAz69x]

True, there's something SERIOUSLY wrong with TC. Either a poe, or some CONCRETE FUNDAMENTALIST who gets beaten by his parents unless he recounts memorized scripture daily.

Seriously, I had a debate with him where he spent LITERALLY half of the 50 minutes reading scripture about "false prophets"... to me, which had NOTHING to do with the conversation and questions I was asking him.

He also replied "Nooo..." MANY MANY TIMES during the oddest points in the interview, and coughing loudly.

[1aaronaaron1]

passonable

[bnightm]

There's a far side side of the moon. No dark side though. At least not one that stays dark for more than half a month :P

[TheGodlessGuitarist]

@bnightm

You are right that there is no 'dark side' but people generally mean the far side of the moon by that term since the moon doesnt rotate on it's own axis. We always see the same face, which is one major issue for the flood splash crater 'theory' lol

[WavegirlThinks]

"Solar panels on the dark side of the moon"

What!?

DonExodus, dont dissapoint me like that!

[MonotonePeanut]

"The differences are pass-onable" lol

[HitodamaKyrie]

I've got Beta thalassemia of the minor variety. This RR-Rr-Rr-rr bit is important with that.

[ShellySummers]

The exact thing you will want to look up about ccr5 is ccr5 delta 32. Loving the program so far.

[WarmWeatherGuy]

If you want to be honest you should not say that there should NEVER be a situation where you remove a certain set of genes and the remaining ones can have some alternate function. The ID guys are saying that we need some alternate function EVERY step of the way. We have not shown that. What we have shown are enough examples to convince most people that irreducible complexity hasn't been proven and is dubious. Their claim is extraordinary and requires extraordinary evidence.

[NicosMind]

I like the laid back nature of this radio show

[dulgrani]

Haha "Just the tip?" 

[pinochet222]

wow it gets better and better 

[Naiant]

You know, Don, those cell phone thingies can be turned off when you've got something important to do.

[authoryomu]

@Naiant  Truly spoken by someone single.

[Naiant]

@authoryomu

Or maybe I've just been married long enough, and my marriage started before the cell phone era, so my wife doesn't expect to be able to contact me whenever she wants.

[authoryomu]

@Naiant Ah, my apologies, welcome to the modern day.

[216trixie]

He's whipped. There's no way an intact man would have taken that g.f. phone call.

[The0Burger0King]

lmao his girlfriend called!

[simon24h]

"solar panels on the dark side of the moon"

There is no such thing. There is far side, which gets all the light when we see a "new moon". Here in earth we call that concept "night and day".

[WavegirlThinks]

@simon24h

I know. That slip-up totally irked me too.

[billygutter01]

"Predator Search Image"

Sounds like a cool name for a punk band.

[TAz69x]

LOL, I LOVE the candid elements of this interview

Makes it fun as hell to watch =3

[Tolrias]

03:28 thanks for the info now I know more about the lactose diarrhea !

[BILLYRUBAN]

beating a horse fossil hahaha!

[blackwolf1200]

They have a flagellum, so they can move about.

[evangelical1]

Intelligent design thinking has been badly misrepresented in this interview.

[captainghey]

@evangelical1

intelligent design thinking? no such thing.

[Segepop]

@evangelical1

why?

[drfoxcourt]

@evangelical1 To the contrary, they have represented Intelligent Design theory very well IMHO. ID is creationism without specific reference to the Christian God. Even a conservative Baptist judge in Dover PA saw ID for what it is.

Each point the ID uses to try to disprove evolution is shown for what it is (deceptive at best), and none of the points supports ID as legitimate.

[RememberJudas314]

@evangelical1 If I may add to what drfoxcourt said, even if what Intelligent Design proponents presented could stand to scientific scrutiny it would only disprove evolution. They have yet to prove that anything has been "intelligently designed" or is "irreducibly complex" or is the product of a "creator."

[dookdawg214]

Look at how we've bred domestic animals, including cows and ponys and the hundreds of different dog breeds. None of these dogs existed before agriculture. They're essentially all branches of wolves. We see new species being formed today. Scientists just found reptiles in cold climates that carry foetuses like mammals instead of releasing eggs. This shows how features can happen twice in evolution -- just like wings have happened on various occasions, yet differently each time.

[CATMAHAT]

@dookdawg214 Where did you see the thing on the reptiles? This sounds like something interesting I would like to check out.

[dookdawg214]

@CATMAHAT

YouTube doesn't let you post URL links, unfortunately, but you can find it on National Geographic's site. Just google "national geographic evolution in action" and you'll find summaries.

[CATMAHAT]

@dookdawg214

Thanks! I'll check it out.

[WavegirlThinks]

@dookdawg214

Reptiles that bear live young is not new to science. We have several here in New Zealand that have been known for a very long time. And there are more in Australia (not due to a cold climate there, but burrowing).

[tamc1337]

@WavegirlThinks sry meant to thumb up :X

[kamijk]

There's no dark side of the moon. Andromeda's wake is disappointed in you.

[HitodamaKyrie]

@kamijk ...?

[HitodamaKyrie]

@kamijk Oh, derp. I get it now.

[WeedGreenPowerRanger]

@kamijk

There is no dark side of the Moon. As a matter of fact, it's all dark...

Roger Waters is disappointed in /you/!

[killerbandit]

pwnge

[Thatonedude917]

I don't believe you have a girlfriend. Enjoy your hand.

[Aerosteon]

The dark side of the moon isn't actually permanently dark. Its just a misnomer name given to the hemisphere always facing away from the Earth.

[Stonehawk]

@Aerosteon bingo. Good insight, Aerosteon. A better metaphore would be building solar panels on the surface of venus, where a) hardly any light at all penetrates the thick, permanent overcast, b) its extremely hot, extremely high-pressure atmosphere content is filled with sulfuric acid (which would destroy the solar panel very quickly, and c) nobody is there to use the electricity ANYWAY XD

[itsasin1969]

Why do the creationist think they know better than the biology departments of the words best universities, the vast majority of scientists,(100% of the the Qualified ones ) and science educators, by rejection common descent with modification over billions of years? Find someone to dispute that, 

[creativeinsult]

hahahaha oh fuck i lol'd 12:35

[itsasin1969]

@creativeinsult

I want the same drug your on,,, 

[blazereef]

i know you probably get alot of comments and messages but if you see this, could you reccomend what you think is the best palce to get new scientific information on the enternet?

[ThePrinceOfMillAve]

I love to bring up nylonase, lactase, and CCR5 when discussing the stupid "information theory" mistreatment by people about genetics when speaking to mutations. "But it just worked from information it already had." So? "It's not new information."

"THE CAT IN THE HAT"

"THE CAT IN THE HAT HAT" (Gene duplication)

"THE CAT IN THE RAT HAT" (Mutation to duplicated gene.)

How is that not new information? And yes, it worked on "information" it already had. Clearly there's a disconnect.

[WeedGreenPowerRanger]

@ThePrinceOfMillAve

I prefer edging in a little insult when I present that argument.

"So you're telling me that even though I only have 26 letters in the alphabet I use, that I can't write a completely new book, with characters and plot never thought of before, simply because I'm only modifying the order of the existing letters? Doesn't the Wall Street Journal do that every day?"

[DocFosters]

i have to point out, that the dark side of the moon isn't really dark. it gets plenty of sunlight, we just can't see it.

and i know, i am nitpicking, so shame on me. but i care about astronomy, especially when you're up against geocentrists ;)

[MechanicalEvolution]

Good responses Don!