Norman Finkelstein at WSU - 26 Feb 2009 - Answer to Dissenter #2

[gunner23]

"Honestly , i dont know what option Palestinians have in the last round of fighting"

Ok Norm youve justified why Hamas use state tv to brainwash children to hate the jews, how young Men and Women aspire to become suicide bombers so they can achieve martyrdom and be recieved by Allah in heaven.

[Redcarpet01]

@gunner23 Propaganda choices and combat choices are two different things.

[jmzimmerman1984]

he wants dissenters because he knows what he's talking about and no one can stump him.

[rocksparadox]

Norman Finkelstein speaks in a slow monotonous voice.

He has literally said that Hitler did not even want a war (read Mein Kampf).

This seems to be a self loathing, emotionless and lying autistic person who needs to understand what the responsibility and right of selfdefense really means in a hostile and irrational environment.

Talk about propaganda: Norman lying douchebag Finkelstein who openly provokes anger from his opponent by lying and smearing words that he just picked up.

[brabon1]

@rocksparadox i dont think norm has aspergers...he suffers from asshatism

he is very good at sentences from other peoples work out of context

in all of his years in academia, he has never published even one original paper....that is a mighty fine feat

[rocksparadox]

@brabon1 Laughing out loud, no autism is too good for him, he is a pathological pathetic liar. You've done your research, I see.

And indeed that is a feat to write home about.

[brabon1]

@rocksparadox not hard to do research on norm...he has basically said the exact same thing, over and over and over again since 82...hes a friggin broken record

its why i dont respect guys like him or chomsky, who consistently misrepresent the works of others

while i disagree with much of what the "new historians" have written, i respect someone like morris...who did his own research...just came up with the wrong conclusions

[vomitoff]

@brabon1 you respect someone who comes up with the wrong conclusions? what kind of stupid reasoning is that? and think that norms a broken record cos he says the same thing over and over again? in that case you respect people who are duplicitous, contradicting, and who have ever changing opinions? if you want entertainment in the arguments about the world's political issues, dont look there. go watch some fucking sports, or better yet, south park.

[brabon1]

@vomitoff yes....i respect those that do the work....not those that misrepresent that work

and because morris initially came up with the wrong conclusions, he has been good enough to correct the record

this has caused finkledick much consternation....because he really cant check on morris' work...as the retard is incapable or reading or writing in hebrew or arabic

[marx102]

damn brabon1 again with the jew hating bastard. You're hasbara is working against you. You are a terrible defender of Israel. YOu actually make Israel look worse.

[ysyilmas]

more like this vedeo's please,media in canada will not tell us anything like this.dr. norman great talker .

[TheRivoluzione]

Freedom for Palestine!!!

[FrayedSanity1981]

@brabon1:

You are such an idiot!

You cant bitch about somones evidence, and coming up with any of your own.

Untill you can prove (by independant sources) that Norman is wrong, STFU!!!

[brabon1]

as youtube only provides me with 500 characters, its hard to post rebuttals to the bs that finkeldick spews

let me just say that many of the sources finkeldick quotes from have come out and said that he has misused their facts, and that he loves to pick and choose only those facts that support his skewed vision of the situation in the middle east

finkeldick is a fraud

[muslim610]

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[brabon1]

arab scum

[muslim610]

LOL, I'm not arab you foolish racist.Soon Zion we destroy itself. Zionist= Fake jews.

[Arjuna1901]

You sling infantile insults at Norman and then call HIM a fraud? Shut the fuck up moron.

You can't counter his argument and so you have to resort to middle-school antics. Bravo.

[SweetDissident]

I think you have Alan Dershowitz confused with Finkelstein. Strange and disturbing mistake on your part. The UN has never contacted Finkelstein stating that he "misused" their information. Your comment is hogwash, and you know it.

[brabon1]

finkeldick does not use only the un as a source....you boob

he uses other researchers....and those are the ones who have attacked him for misusing their research

he is a fraud...an unemployed fraud

[SweetDissident]

In this lecture, He is using information from Human Rights Watch, B'Tselem, Amnesty International, the UN and the Court of International Justice. None of whom have attacked him for using their information. I believe you may be thinking of Dershowitz's attacks on Finkelstein for exposing the fraud in "The Case for Israel." And the Goldhagen affair, which anyone can read about just google and see for yourself if these authors merited Finkelstein's critcisms. Scholars agree with Finkelstein.

[SweetDissident]

Yes, true, Dershowitz and Goldhagen have criticized Finkelstein for debunking their poor scholarship. No argument here. Finkelstein has studied the topic, and this topic exclusively, for over 20 years. His "vision" isn't "skewed," he sees quite clearly. Apartheid and ethnic cleansing are wrong.

[brabon1]

it is impossible to debate one who sucks finkeldicks cock, for that person is incapable of reading or understanding facts

researchers, who finkeldick has used to bolster his arguments, have frequently come out against how their research was used by the fraud

and im not talking dershowitz....you fucking dumbshit

[SweetDissident]

brabon1, Why are you so obsessed with Finkelstein's manhood? You must be a lonely man. The rest of us do not care for your pornographic comments, so keep them to yourself. We are interested in what Finkelstein has to say, not in your filthy language.

[muslim610]

@SweetDissident. Well said, Prof Finkelstein is a true champion.

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[brabon1]

i just read my previous posts...i did post facts

facts that finkeldick ignores and that you refuse to read, because you are allergic to the truth...any truth that would sway you from hating the jew

[muslim610]

brabon1....."truth that would sway you from hating the jew "......same line of BS everytime someone tells the truth about israel...Zionist(fake jews) like u come with the "hate jew" line, please its getting boring now!....I've got loads of videos of real jews who dont agree with the racist Zionist state, oh but i'm sure ur gonna come with the self hating jew line right, u guys are so predictable.peace.

[SweetDissident]

Hey, watch that! We aren't "hating Jews;" first of all, Finkelstein is Jewish, and many Jewish human rights groups around the world agree with what he says here. As do some Israelis, and Israeli journalists like Amira Hass. So please, spare us this fake cry of "hating Jews." It's not Jewish people or even Israeli citizenry that are being criticized in these comments. It's Israel's government/ military/ IDF which have committed crimes. And the U.S. too for arming them. You know that.

[brabon1]

finkeldick is jewish by accident of birth....means nothing

some of the greatest jew haters in history were jews

he hates his own people....because he hates himself

[SweetDissident]

If you really believe that anyone who criticizes their own "hates" themselves, then you have the morality of a 3 year old. Did white abolitionists "hate" themselves? They criticized slavery, a practice of white men. Jesus criticized the Sanhedrin, Pharisees, etc. was Jesus a "self-hating Jew?" Some brave Germans protected Jews from the SS. Did they "hate" themselves too? Or did they hate injustice? Thomas Paine criticized England; did he "hate" himself? Your twisted, man.

[muslim610]

brabon1, you're an idiot,You talk so much BS its not even funny. Oh yeah,b4 u call me "Arab scum" I'd just like to remind u I'm not Arab! Shit 4 brains....LOOL

[muslim610]

LOOOOOOOOOOOL @ brainless brabon1

[brabon1]

oh, im sorry...you probably dont have a mutah wife

you probably married your donkey...another abomination allowed by the most evil religion ever created

ALLAH KAKA DOODIE

MOHAMED WAS A PEDOFILE...AND THEN HE FUCKED HIS CAMEL;

[muslim610]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOL,keep talking fool.your insults are meaningless.....What a waste of space.

[brabon1]

ya...but you keep responding

im getting to ya

isnt it time for you to strap on the explosive belt and go meet the 72 virgins?

ALLAH KAKAH DOODIE

[motsmart]

you shitty zionist, just for your information the first ever suicide ever happened by explosive belt was done by zionists, the first ever plane hijack was done by zionists, the first ever house demolition by a van full of an explosives was done by Zionists. so you better zip up your shitty mouth cause even this guy (Frenkistein which himself is a Jew) knows what you bastards are after. everybody hates Jews and everybody whose after religion is getting to Islam thats make you sad nah?!

[brabon1]

look, you jew hating bastard...anyone can write anything on the internet, just like you just did....doesnt make it fact

and the capos in the concentration camps were jewish too...and they helped shove their brethren right into the ovens

so fuck finkledick and fuck your jew hating ass and all your bs facts

[rocksparadox]

@brabon1 You can't reason with these f#cks because they are brainwashed and admire that lying Finkelstein for his hate which they share and cannot deny.

But our people and the media should realise that the free west must be defended against this religious international violence and oppression. 5 billion people are not muslim and have no intention to be against the 1 billion that believes that everybody should believe and act exactly the same as they do.

[brabon1]

@rocksparadox ive given up attempting to reason...its amazing how so called progressives now embrace terrorists

wasnt that way 30 years ago

[rocksparadox]

@brabon1 So back then they did not have their head so far up their ass that they were not so selfimportant like Finkelwank?

[Arjuna1901]

Norman rocks!

[Arjuna1901]

brabon1 is a great representative for Israel and Zionism.

This is how intelligent their supporters are. Keep posting your pathetically lame argument (no facts, no logic).

[brabon1]

more lies by finkeldick

why was there a blockade of gaza? there wasnt one before the second intifada....it happened because of terroist attacks coming from gaza

as for the "massacre" i would like finkeldick to please provide independent verification of the numbers of wounded and killed civilians

he cant....as he gets everything from his terrorist bastard handlers

[brabon1]

finkledick loves to play with bs stats

when he says that more palestinian children were killed than israeli civilians, he neglects to note that hamas and other arab terrorists use children as young as 12 to commit terrorist acts

and israel should not be condemned for protecting its citizens

according to finkeldick, israel should only strike back if it allows its citizens to die

well eff that...and eff him

[cfrb]

think of what u whoul have done before u do it to others...

[brabon1]

wtf does that mean?

[land4citizens]

American Jews need to wake up and stop holding US politicians hostage supporting Israel no matter what the behavior. Putting people on reservations is a stain on America and Israel. It was wrong here in America and is wrong today in Palistine.

[oldjoe5]

All americans need to wake up about this