Reuploaded - The Red Mass Vatican Jesuit Conspiracy Theories! New World Order? Devil?

[KevZen2000]

There is no devil, but the Jesuits are a cult, as all religious groups. The Catholic Church, and the Jesuits, do not have a good history, but any religio-political organization would not either. My suggestion, is that we give up all the religions, they are destroying humanity, and ultimately Atheism,and irreligious will prevail, because consistency, always wins out.

[EricIndiana]

Let me let you in on a little something since you are Catholic.

The assassination attempt on Pope John Paul II... who do you think was REALLY behind that? Why do you think the "Black Pope" Pedro Arrupe FLED to Japan after the attempt failed? Why do you think he suffered a "stroke" the moment he was brought back on to diplomatically immune Vatican soil? Why do you think JPII declined the Jesuits wish to instate O'Keefe and appoint 2 temporary Black Popes for 2 and a half years instead?

[EricIndiana]

The attempt on the Pope came right after the attempt on Reagan.

Those were not the work of 1 one gunmen, just like JFK's hit wasn't.

I could go into great detail about how the head of the Secret Service James Rowley and CIA Director Allen Dulles both had Jesuit Priests in their immediate families. JFK was making speeches about how he wasn't going to take orders from the Pope, they didn't like that.

[EricIndiana]

JFK fired Dulles and threatened to dismantle the CIA.

He forced Rowley to take on his 1st black agent in the Secret Service and they are still to this day notoriously racist. The James J Rowley school was in the news earlier this year or last for hanging a noose in a tree.

Rowley's brother was a Jesuit. They both grew up in Jesuit Fordham neighborhood and had men like William O'Donovon stopping by for visits.

Dulles had a Jesuit nephew that got promoted to Cardinal.

You have no idea dude, none

[BeingBob]

@EricIndiana The man who attempted to assassinate Pope JP2 may have worked for someone else, but it wasn't the Jesuits. And he was a conspiracy nutter like Oswald. He later converted to Christianity after meeting with the Pope.

Arrupe had a history in Japan. He was there when the bombs fell. BTW - One of the bombs landed right on a Catholic community in Nagasaki. He was 73 when he had his stroke and he continued to communicate while living at the Roman Curia.

[EricIndiana]

@BeingBob I know where Arrupe spent his time... that is why he thought he could go there and hide out. Too bad it didnt work and Pope JPII was no fool. You think Pope John Paul I died of natural causes after 33 days as Pope? AND IM the conspiracy theorist?

And the Jesuits werent behind the Gunpowder Plot either huh?

Totally set up by vengeful Protestants right?

Just like the Babington, Throckmorton, Ridolfi, and Bye Plots.

When was the Jesuits inception & what were King Henry VIIIs final words?

[BeingBob]

@EricIndiana JFK was killed by Oswald who was a psychopath. There's ample evidence that he was motivated to kill JFK, not the least of which was the fact that he was a supporter of the Soviet Union and Castro, had attempted another assassination already and had threatened the FBI shortly before Kennedy's visit.

Cardinal Dulles is from a Presbyterian family. He converted to Catholicism from atheism from Presbyterian. I have some of his writings.

[EricIndiana]

@BeingBob You have Avery Dulles writings? Why? Do you not understand what the Jesuits are really all about? There was a day even Catholics resented them because of the turmoil they caused. What do you think Pope John Paul II was saying when he condemned liberation theology?

The Pope knew the Jesuits were behind his the attempt on him, but its not like he would allow that to get out... it would destroy the church. Why did he Arrupe go to Japan? Think about it. The Pope had just been shot.

[EricIndiana]

Just to clarify and update your description to this video.There are now 6 Roman Catholic Justices with the other 3 being Jewish.

You are not doing an honest job with this video.

Yes there are conspiracy theorists out there that make a lot out of nothing, but you can not counter with Jesuit light sabers and nerf guns.

The Jesuits are a terrorist organization. Plain and simple. I don't care about the Red Mass or any of that, but there are reasons why the Pope abolished the order in 1773.

[BeingBob]

@EricIndiana "You are not doing an honest job with this video." Actually it is a completely honest video. There was no conspiracy and my presence there was coincidental.

You use language similar to that of Oswald and Agca and you should get yourself a real history book, wake up and get out of the conspiracy cloud. Or you can wait until one of the other conspiracy nutters goes off half-cocked and blows up a building or shoots an official thinking that he's fulfilling some grand purpose

[EricIndiana]

@BeingBob Look at the Catholic nutter calling everyone else nutters.

How many terrorist acts have the Catholics been behind?

Conspiracy theorists could NEVER touch the Catholics in a million years.

Hell even half the conspiracy nutter terrorists, like Tim McVeigh and Dr Bruce Ivins, were Catholic!

Whatchya got now?

You can call me whatever you want, doesnt change the fact that I served in Afghanistan for this Crusader War being masqueraded as a War on Terror.

I earned my right to bitch, bitch.

[BeingBob]

@EricIndiana This isn't a rap video.

You earned your right to what? Engage in character assassination based on no evidence?

I didn't call you anything. I merely attempted to show you what you were doing. You have not presented actual evidence of this claim against Aruppe and you haven't explained how Cardinal Dulles killed Kennedy based on the politics of his Presbyterian family. The same reasoning you use here could be used to connect you to Titus Oates.

[EricIndiana]

@BeingBob Titus Oates was playing both sides, actually I think he MAY have been more so on the side of the Jesuits luring the other side into a false sense of trust. But that is why I left the Popish Plot off the list.

That is what Weishaupt did after all when he created the Illuminati 3 years after the Jesuits were suppressed. Weishaupted "outed" Jesuits that were still teaching in the area. He built a reputation of being anti-Jesuit so that he could gain trust during the Counter-Reformation.

[EricIndiana]

PS... I earned my right to have my own opinion of the Jesuits. Read what John Adams had to say about them in a letter to Thomas Jefferson in 1816. Today we just think our founding fathers were anti-Catholic bigots, but that is not true. There are reasons why many Catholics, like the Jesuits, could not be trusted. Historical evidence shows that the Jesuits use terrorism when they are in and out of power. Not all, but many Jesuit Priests act as intelligence agents and use their schools to recruit.

[thegreatfearblog]

@EricIndiana The world is run by the Jesuits? The fact that the numbers of Catholic faithful have halved in the last 50 years; the fact that every single war waged by the US has been for the benefit of Israel; the fact that every single major bank is jewish owned; the fact that jews finance both the Republicans and the Democrats; the fact that anyone who challenges jews in Europe goes to jail; the fact that ALL tv evangelists work in jewish owned stations, do not mean anything to you?

[bornbythesea]

Has anyone had the chance to read The Great Controversy?

[BeingBob]

bibleortraditions says "This is why I blocked everyone associated with him. "

And yet I haven't blocked you, yet, but if you keep creeping around to various unrelated videos so you can take potshots where you think others won't see it, then I may have to.

[bibleortraditions]

Bob, I am done. It doesn't matter what lies or foul mouthed comments come from Bingolly's mouth, you folks back him unequivocally. You know darn well I am not SDA, and you do nothing to call him on the carpet. I stepped in a put a halt to someone making vile videos about him, and I would have laughed thinking "Ah, he deserves it." But there is more fleshly unity with you folks than spiritual. WWJD? Certainly not sit back and let it continue.

[bibleortraditions]

This is why I blocked everyone associated with him. I don't post his name on any of my videos, because he is a hateful little old man lying to his subscribers (mostly himself), his friends, and even you. I won't validate him in the least. Instead, his videos just strengthen my resolve to promote truth about the RC institution. The more videos about me are made, the more I will point at Rome. As you see, my videos get views.

[BeingBob]

btw. Your video on Mary in the NT is weak. She's compared with the Ark of the Covenant in Luke 1. The comparison to 2 Sam 6 is only deniable if you're blind. Not just a pious Jewish woman, but the Ark of the Incarnate Word. Catholic Answers has an excellent article on this which can be found by googling Mary Ark of the New Covenant. It should be the first result. As always, the intent is to show us who Jesus is.

[BeingBob]

what are you talking about?

[BeingBob]

Don't you have a video calling Pope Benedict "his hellishness"?

I have had this discussion about your not being SDA. His videos are not my videos, but I don't see anything better coming from you and the fact is that you did have some of that stuff at one time on your site and yanked it as soon as you were called on it, within a day or so. I saw your site before you changed it.

[bibleortraditions]

Bob, I am just done. My time is limited, and I already get more mail than I can answer. When I compare the battles with B and a letter I just received, it was good for me to refocus:

"Thanks so much for the videos. We're incorporating them in our Bible studies and learning a lot! Many thanks! Warm regards from Clare"

[BeingBob]

You're done posting attack videos? Or you're done discussing it?

[bibleortraditions]

The more I receive bogus and lying videos about me personally, the more focus I will put on the RCC.

I have lots of topics to chat about from Mormonism, Islam, JW's, etc. But when I see lying videos about me being posted, it is apparent I need to spend more intimate time with Rome. I won't give bingo the time of day, but I attack with Scripture and history where it hurts most - Mother Church. And I will continue until all the lying videos about me are taken down.

[BeingBob]

Your videos don't hurt the Catholic Church.

Do you see where you are? You're talking about taking swipes at the Catholic Church because you're mad at a convert to Catholicism for calling you out on previous attack videos and substance that you posted earlier.

[BeingBob]

You have taken the role of the villain in every comic ever created.

(shakes fist)

YOU WONT SEE THE LAST OF ME!!!!!!!!!11111oneoneone

[bibleortraditions]

I won't talk to bingo. I will just visit his channel once a week or so. And as long as I see lying videos about me posted, I will continue 110%. With each video, I am trying to outdo myself. And I have the subscriber and friend base to make them very effective. His "friends" won't control him as a new convert into the religion, well then I will unleash the dogs. How you can be happy having this type of person representing your faith is beyond me. C'est la guerre.

[BeingBob]

How are we supposed to control anyone? Frankly I think you should "unleash the dogs". It might be good for you to stop soaking your feet and to just leap into the torrent. Hopefully God will come and pull you out after you've made a big enough mess of yourself with this vengeful thinking.

Perhaps Bingolly1 and myself could make a "Taming of the Shrew" parody just to show the ridiculousness of such a notion.

"how bright and goodly shines the moon!"

[BeingBob]

You claim to not be SDA but you use SDA material in your video. I repent of my previous statement. You should not make these videos because of where they will take you, but if God gives you over to this mind then so be it. It is not in my hands, but I revoke my encouragement for both yours and my sake, not out of fear, but because I should not have encouraged you to take the devil's hand into darkness.

[bibleortraditions]

Many of the so-called doctrines of the SDA church were in place centuries before Ellen White walked the earth. She took doctrines, built her church in the 1860s, and added her own teachings. SDAs believe in the Trinity as well. Should we say that anyone who believes in the Trinity is adhering to SDA doctrines? Of course not.

[Bingolly1]

There is no battle with me BOT except in your own mine. Now your made because you troll around and make stupid commnets on my videos and accuse me of being people I am not. Typicak SDA move. If you stopped trolling me the only problem you would have is me debunking your videos. Here you are playing the victim again after you trolled me. I only return fire when you fire at me. Your the one who came to my video this morning looking for a fight. Tell bob the truth.

[Islandretreat]

You say below that " It's not the policy of the Catholic Church to encourage pedophilia". This is a bare faced lie. The Roman Papacy is the largest *organised* paedophile ring in the world. And anybody who is familiar with the Vatican's doctrine of Temporal power weill tell you that the Roman Papacy is not a "church". The Pope of Rome claims to have the right to rule all Governments of the world. You call that a "Church"?

[BeingBob]

Thanks for stopping by. Prove that it's a lie or stop spreading lies and hate yourself.

[BeingBob]

You seem to think you have the right to just accuse everyone who disagrees with you a liar. To make up wild-eyed conspiracies about other people. The pro-abortion justices are not serving the Pope.

If you cannot prove your lies and accusations against others then keep them to yourself.

They mismanaged the situation. Pedophilia was only a part of the problem and not the entire problem, but there is no evidence of ill intent by the hierarchy and ample evidence that such acts violate policy.

[Islandretreat]

"Supreme Court 5 are Catholic, which just sprays fuel on tl's fire. The rest are Jewish or Protestant. "

You mean ONE is Jewish and a member on the Council on Foreign Relations (serving the Pope) and ONE is an 'apostate Protestant ' (serving the Pope).

[Pascalism]

Bible = Christianity.

Not Bible = Not Christianity.

You believe what you want, but don't come and tell me you are a Christian if not only your practices are not in the Bible, but they blaspheme God and Jesus' name in the most despicable ways.

The Christ of the Bible was not white.

The Christ of the Bible is not a dead Jesus on a cross(crusifix)

The Christ of the Bible denied Marie three times(because she is NEVER to be seen as the "Mother of God", that is an old Babylonian term.

[BeingBob]

Who said Jesus is white? WHere did that come from?

According to Luke 1 and 2 Samuel 6 Mary is the Ark of the New Covenant.

The Bible says Mary is "The Mother of my Lord" Lk 1:43.

"The Bible" isn't in the Bible. Sola Scriptura isn't in the Bible but Tradition is. St John told us that not everything Jesus said or did could be written down. Sola Scriptura is a 500 year old concept.

[parigi5]

Yes, but the Apostles NEVER had that Red Mass tradition, and where in the Bible says that we have to celebrate Red Mass? You know that Politicians will not see the Kingdom of Heaven right? So why listen to the traditions of men? FOLLOW THE LAWS OF GOD AND EVERYTHING WILL BE CLEAR TO YOU

[BeingBob]

Nowhere in the Bible does it say we have to eat peanut butter and jelly, either. The Apostles celebrated the Divine Liturgy, which we call Mass. I don't know what politicians will or will not see.

Red Mass does not contradict the Bible. Nowhere in Tradition does it say anyone has to celebrate Red Mass. It's something a bishop celebrates because he wants to. I was just fortunate enough to stumble into a Red Mass, and later saw the stupid conspiracy videos for it.

[parigi5]

Come on, how can you compare peanut butter with religion? If you don't want to believe in the word of God that's fine, you rather listen to the traditions of men, that's fine, it's not my soul we're talking about, what do you think about IDOLATRY? Do you think it's ok to pray to every "saint" instead of God? Or why do your church change the 10 commandments? I'M NOT HERE TO MAKE YOU ANGRY OR TO START A FIGHT WITH YOU, JUST WANT TO MAKE YOU SEE WHAT GOD DOES NOT LIKE IN TRADITIONS OF MEN, PEACE

[BeingBob]

You're saying I don't believe in the Word of God because I also believe in Tradition which does not violate God's Word? Peanut butter and jelly is traditional bag lunch food, but it's not in the bible. Traditions of men. Tsk Tsk.

I'm not angry at all, nor am I writing in all caps as if I were angry. I think God would like you to belong to His Church, that He created. The Holy Catholic Church. Mass is on Sunday. cya there? Hope so. Peace.

[parigi5]

Well, if I told you, everyone would know how to lie more efficiently,or maybe your entire body knows it's not true what you're preaching, hmmmm, I do like your answer about the dementia part, hahaha, It's a Liturgical color you say?, but where can I find it in the Bible?, or is it a MAN MADE TRADITION? Because TRADITIONS brake the law of YHWH Mark 7:13,Matt 15:3, just wanted to tell you to be more careful, and look for the truth of God not the truth of men, just read and trust the Bible, peace

[BeingBob]

The bible tells us to keep traditions, but not man made traditions that are contrary to God's law. Traditions passed on from Christ to the Apostle's to us are fine.

I still don't know what I'd lie about. Apart from the regalia and the guest list there was nothing unusual. I told some folks at work that I am a lying, demented conspirator. They laughed. One wanted to go.

[parigi5]

I have a question, where in the Bible does it says that the color of the Holy Spirit is red?

and don't get offended but I'm seeing signs of Dementia, the way you express yourself, with the hands, smile, eyes, your body language, and mostly your laugh, and also you're not telling the truth in some parts of the video, your body language doesn't lie, or there was some one with you when you recorded this video? my guess, there was

[BeingBob]

You're full of a bunch of guesses. There was nobody with me. I wasn't lying. Where in the bible is the Youtube comments section? It's a Liturgical color.

As for dementia, I don't know. It's always possible.

So where do you think I was lying? I'm not really sure what I'd lie about.

[FamaNihilEstCelerius]

Par, You have used words such as dementia, lie, not telling the truth, critiqued his body language etc? Are you a body language expert or are you unaware that only God knows the hearts of men?

The behavior you have displayed is called projection, since you don't know anything about Bob, you have unknowingly projected your own unwanted character traits onto him. This type of behavior tells more about the person doing the accusing & little about the person they are character assaulting.

[BeingBob]

Well. The air is very cold and dry right now so my skin is itchy and the nose is the worst. That and I have a bad habit of looking at 50 other things while talking. People have called me crazy eyes before. Looking at a camera isn't intuitive. If you compare the laugh with ytben... better not. Projection is common here on youtube though. The abortion video was getting a lot of it. Vicious hate from people claiming that you hate them. Odd. Thanks Fama.

[ornelas3830]

Why werent Bradley Tanks dispatched to known Roman Catholic Churches that were abusing children and harboring the despicable pedophile priests? Waco and Alamo Ministries, according t government allegations, were places of child abuse and the government wasted no time raiding the "compounds." What is even stranger is the "fact" that Alamo Ministries was absolved of the charge while the Roman Catholic Church had to pay large settlements indicating guilt.

[BeingBob]

Because it's not institutional policy and the Catholic Church isn't operating armed compounds. Alamo was accused of marrying off children to adults as part of the policy of his ministry. He reportedly frisks strangers when they come into his compound and is generally very strange.

Police don't need a tank to enter a Catholic Church. They can just walk through the front door.

[ornelas3830]

No, of course it is not institutional policy of the Catholic Church, but it is their policy to encourage their pedophile priest and protect them from the law. Yes, Alamo is guilty of marrying of a female that was 16 to a 22 year old man with the minor's parent's consent. But of course, pedophilia is not that grave a crime compared to Alamo's marrying of lawful consensual partners (sarcasm).

[BeingBob]

Thank you for the sarcasm, accuser. It's not the policy of the Catholic Church to encourage pedophilia. Some people in various ranks and to various degrees seem to have acted inappropriately in dealing with the issue.

[BeingBob]

His name isn't even Tony Alamo. He changed it. It's Bernie Hoffman. That's strange.

And what's with the glamour shot on the pamphlets? He's old, not that guy in the flier.

That's an interesting cult you're involved with. How much time do you spend working for Mr Hoffman? Do you know any children who have been beaten at his compounds?

[Bingolly1]

Please stop blowing my theories:) Peace

[BeingBob]

Thanks. Someone voted it down. :) I'm doing something right!

[FamaNihilEstCelerius]

Ok youtube is eating my post, if I double, or triple posted please delete them if they show up, I was going to end with thanks for this video, you are a good guy Bob thanks for sharing the special mass. God bless you!

[FamaNihilEstCelerius]

So the focal point of the Red Mass is to pray and bless those in leadership roles and for the guidance of the Holy Spirit?

I have never been to one, I was passed up for the supreme court. :D I think it is wonderful that there is a special mass for leaders who have to make difficult decisions they do need prayers and the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

I am being snarky, but I'm thinkin Nancy Pelosi skips this special mass eh? :D

[BeingBob]

More or less. Hence they ask for the intercession of St Thomas More.

The Red Mass I attended is for the local cathedral, but any conspiracy should extend to the lower courts as well, shouldn't it?

Nancy Pelosi may go, but she's in an awkward place and may even be getting bad information from others. God bless.

[colombianbellydancer]

and also about converting people I completely agree with you because it is very hard to try to convince people to believe in the Truth..and that person that left when the Mass began I think that person left first because they didn't have there heart and mind set to hear the Mass and also because Satan pushed the person out of the Cathedral...God Bless

[colombianbellydancer]

great video...I think that what your Bishop spoke about was nice and I myself also believe that immigrants should be treated equal because they are human as we are and they deserve there rights also..you know..they come here only with intentions to survive..God Bless

[BeingBob]

Thanks. Yes you're right. People have a right to travel to seek work and safety to feed their families.

God bless.