Swiss Centurion Tank - Panzer Full-Reuenthal

[MSR8MASR]

@thadutchguy what training?

we're talking about heavy 50+ton tanks using L7 105mm guns which are close in performance to 120mm L44 tank guns up to 3000 meters going against crappy soviets designs with mainguns not useful after 1600 meters, with absolutely no range finding devices, with no ability to use tank hull-down position tactics, and weighting at least 10 tons less in a time were each pound of steel counted for protection

thank the tank designers, not the crew

[discovery110]

this is a panzer? i think panzer is an old german tank from 2ww and cold war.

[AgCCannonFodder]

@discovery110 "Panzer" simply means armour, it's short for "PanzerKampfWagon" or Armoured Fighting Vehicle... and no, as the video title states, it's a centurion tank, that was developed by the British in WW2, it was delivered just too late to take on the German Panzers.

[sethzky77]

clumsy driver.  Tank sucks.

[Braun30]

@sethzky77 The Centurion ran on petrol, gasoline in the US, had a carburettor distribution system and was designed in the 1940s. No fancy electronics then to manage engine and no simplified driving. Try getting your hand on one and let me know how you got on with it.

[merstrand]

In Denmark the Centurion was in active use until 1993 and the recovery version even longer. i remeber when we started them, 2 meter flames came out of the exhaust..

[CharlieDoan]

This tank got no protection for on top of the tank. If meet Army of exponent! first victic are the guys sit on top of the tank, unlike M-113 at leat you got some kind of cover from Ak-47 or something lighter!! Engineer need to look more this point,even from VN war to now THERE ARE NO IMPROVE AT ALL!

[T1w4z]

awesome!

[M40]

they can have armored cars for all they care

no ones gonna invade them

[olejka2]

when i was in servise,i was at firing exhibition.one brigade received a new for those days merkava mark 3.

so they started target shoting from merkava first,and after that from(to be retired)Centurion.

it was very funny to see that reservists(who had plenty of experience) with old centurion,hit the targets much better.

so the joke of the day was that they shouldn't replace them : ))))))))

PS

for all the serious people,i know that the merkava crews missed cause they ware "green"

[opckw147]

Leo 1 and Leo 2 are the best tanks in Europa!

[MrKellysHeroes]

@opckw147

leo1 best tanks in europa!? maybe 1975

the french leclerc , british challenger and the italian ariete are superieor to the leo1

the difference between the modern tanks (m1a2,leo2a6,t-90,k2,leclerc,a­rierte challenger etc) is very small

[supermorshu]

@MrKellysHeroes C2 has the best armour

[opckw147]

scheiß bock , keine Power und zu schwer!

[banoffee2001]

opckw...Its one of the best tanks in history.

No power??? Idiot. Go do some reading.Performed well in Korea and with the Israeli army. Produced too late by end of 1945..it would have destroyed anything Germany had at that time.

[kcopy]

@banoffee2001 not! the 75mm canon was 2 week

[banoffee2001]

@kcopy Ermmm..what are you talking about? The Centurion had a 105mm gun.

Enough evidence out there to prove that it was a 1st class tank

[kcopy]

@banoffee2001 1st setup was with 75mm

[banoffee2001]

@kcopy It was at its best when it had the 105mm. I am only quoting from a military historian who stated that the Centurion would have defeated any German tank in the 2nd world war. The 75mm is very effective.As used by the Panther and Stug.

I dont know what is your point. Th Centurion tank was a first class tank.

[banoffee2001]

@kcopy The Sherman Firefly had a 17lb gun,which is equivalent to 76mm. Sherman Firefly could take out Tigers and Panthers. So...75mm is weak??

[exxalte]

@banoffee2001 Centurion was armed/delivered with 82 mm gun equal I guess to 88mm german gun and armour somewhat lighter som it would have been a close shave- with the tiger 2

[banoffee2001]

@exxalte Had lighter armour in the very beginning,but the sloped glacis plate was intended to make up for that. Considering that the main criteria for the design was to withstand a hit from an 88mm.

The MKI had a 76.2mm gun I think. MKII in production end Nov 1945,with improved armour

MKIII = 84mm gun then later with the 105mm

End of day...too late

[intellegence63smart]

That tank sucks.

[Braun30]

It does, gasoline to make a producer happy.

The thing was contemporary to the M40 of Corean memory and at the time was considered the best tank in the western world.

[intellegence63smart]

@Braun30 Yeah now that thing won't be able to face a line of M1A1s or even M60's.

[banoffee2001]

intel...you should change your name...you are far from smart or intelligent. Centurion tank one of the most successful tanks ever produced. Just ask the any Israeli. first produced in 1945 idiot..why compare it to an M1A1..retard

[intellegence63smart]

@banoffee2001 But look, today if it was in use in battle with like the Egyptians it would not stand a chance against one of their M1A2's. So I'm comparing it to the present not the past. Egypt overpowers Israel anyways.

[banoffee2001]

Whats the point of comparing 1940's technology with todays??? Pointless. Stating the obvious...i.e. F22 going to beat a Spitfire or Mustang.

Compare a musket with an automatic rifle. Israel has the Merkava..a more than capable tank. Israel already defeated the Egyptians..I dont think they would be too worried about them

[eod973]

lahme kiste...

[one1939]

that tank is really hard to drive form what i saw on tv and read about it and horrible gas mileage just like A1M1 Abrams

[thadutchguy]

yeah but if you see that it is designed in the late 1940's and was still in use in the mid 1970's...that is a prove that a good training can do anything;)

and the first Merkava tank (israeli tank) is in fact a Centurion tank that has gone back on the design table;)

[MSR8MASR]

@thadutchguy what training?

we're talking about heavy 50+ton tanks using L7 105mm guns which are close in performance to 120mm L44 tank guns up to 3000 meters going against crappy soviets designs with mainguns not useful after 1600 meters, with absolutely no range finding devices, with no ability to use tank hull-down position tactics, and weighting at least 10 tons less in a time were each pound of steel counted for protection

thank the tank designers, not the crew

[LupusAries]

@MSR8MASR Don´t forget the T-55 had a night vision device sooner than the Centurion. Which gave it a definitive Night Fighting advantage. Also the Syrian Training for example was really and I mean really crappy. Try to read "Centurion vs. T-55 Yom Kippur War" by Osprey, it´s an englightening book on it.

[MSR8MASR]

@LupusAries I have read according to some Israeli sources, or based on Israeli reports that the Syrians had night-fighting equipment for their tanks, now the Syrians have proven to be noncompetitive in battle several times, the Syrian military is best only at killing it's own unarmed ppl.

For Egypt, at the other hand, we had to rely on infantry-operated anti-tank weapons to support our soviet tanks against superior western tanks operated by the Israelis.

[MSR8MASR]

@LupusAries Also, the soviet armor fared well, when fighting western designs at close combat, where the advantages of range, and effectiveness of western main tanks guns were no longer applicable. At the Chinese farm.

However, attacking hull-down wetern tanks with much longer effective firing ranges, excellent air support, and the western world's newest anti-tank missiles, the TOW's, the attack was proved to be a total disaster. That's why Egyptian generals opposed this plan, but Sadat insisted

[NatlusUKSA]

Whats the Point watching this ????? somebody TELL ME

[IRP01]

Centurion-porn.. get it?

[sacoguate]

Sucks

[Dallas700LAC]

Love the engine sound

[stu57stu]

brilliant

[poonjoo]

gotta love that machinery, it sounds so like simple yet effective

[frank234you]

I have seen of 1 that is privately owned in Australia. 4,400 were made.

[45ccd]

@frank234you in mareeba?

they are fucking sick.

[elswick1542]

shame we did not get this tank in 1943 so many brave crews would have survived.

[bgingb]

It is, designed late ww2, the first real main batte tank with a 4man crew, constantly upgraded and up-gunned it served for over 50 years, the red sea pedestrians used it to great effect in several wars.

[KeyToTime]

I thought the Centurion was a British tank.

[DrCanyonero]

Sure it is.. But like so many tanks, they sell many to other contries.. But they are not in use any more.. The swiss army now use Leopard 2A4..

[CHARKELLYAZ1818]

Yes the centurion is still in use. I read that south africa and lebanon still use centurion tanks. They were equipped with m60 machine guns and a 140 mm anti tank gun and was shortened by 1 foot, the height got shortened by 1 foot and got wider by about a foot.

[DrCanyonero]

Oh i did not know. I thought it was gone. Thanks though it is good to know.

[binaway]

@KeyToTime It was British designed and built. By Swiss Centurion they mean a Centurion purchased from Britain by the Swiss government and used by the Swiss army