like what Cesar Millan said, a dogs attitude reflects how the owner raised them...sooooo true! If dogs are trained as early as two months and was socialized properly then this aggressiveness will not occur but then again, aggressiveness depends on the root whether the dog lacks socialization or had trauma...I can very well relate coz I have a dog whom I turned into a monster bec. I spoiled it..but my other dog which is GSD was raised properly...so he turned out to be how I wanted him to be...
okay, first of all there was no sign of aggression from the dog. he/she was simply over excited. there is mistake #1. second after the "16 days of training" you can clearly see by the dogs posture, tail tucked ears back, that the training methods used were forceful and negative. so congratulations now you have a dog that went from just way too excited, to now living a stressful and sad life. maybe this training proccess should have started with the dog getting fixed.
I feel sorry for an owner who is looking to a trainer for guidance and being instructed to use punishment techniques instead of addressing the root of the dog's reactivity issues. I feel sorry for the trainer who has not come into this new century with updated, scientific, and proven behavioral modification techniques and who does not realize that punishing reactive behavior without changing the dog's state of emotion will cause it to "act out" in a different (and likely worse) way.
you don't know what a painter wants to create, after just few lines on the paper.
There are stages in training, so preparing the owner and growing confidence in his mind is one of them.
The dog should feel his owner confident in his maneuvers to recognize his ascendent. So... after this stage,the owner mentaly prepared and the dog recognizing some leash suggestions and obeying to them, starts modifications the state of his mind. ;)
@dentalgoggles Try rehabilitating a dog in that context and with that behavioral problems using clicker training or some positive techniques at this stage could be waste time. I have a logical theory in training based on dog's natural instincts, which is very efficient(I won't describe it to you now).
Catalin, you're absolutely right. Though I've been into clicker training for a decade. When it comes to aggressive, vicious dogs that are causing severe damage, the problem is simple: You don't get a behavior you could reinforce with positive means. The dog has learned that it is his aggressive behavior that is successful. There is no way to ignore it. If you don't stop the dog's attacks you simply won't reach a stage where you could work with positive reinforcement.
Everything is logical. Clicker training is poetry... it is beautiful, but it has its limits, it doesn't work all the time.
In the present, I am using clicker training combined with other training methods getting dog training of all kind of dogs, reliable.
Sometimes I am using pure clicker training method but not for obedience in real life, real situations... I am using it only for training dogs for movies and commercials.
@OneGoodBite false, i have seen dogs that are so aggressive they attack their owners of 5-10 years and trainers that were actually reputable were able to rehabilitate the dogs using a clicker and positive reinforcement techniques. so if you say that the dog is just too aggressive or is too out of control or whatever, then you could probably pass as a reputable trainer in romania, but that is nothing for you to be proud of. NO dog is too aggressive for positive reinforcement
@catalin30. Thanks for the response. I most definitely understand that one must get the owner motivated and build some confidence and I commend you for making such efforts. However, here in the US, there is a Mexican man with a TV show with "quick fix" videos like this that has caused many problems for dogs and owners. Furthermore, If a shelter worker treats a reactive dog like this, and it tries to defend itself from the harsh corrections, the dog is deemed unadoptable and gets killed.
@lottabubbles725 so you just proved you know nothing. the dog is not being punished in the video, DUH. but by looking at his posture and how stressed the dog looks while being "obedient" it is clear that the training techniques used to get these results were of course forceful and punishing. you cant justify that no matter how hard you tried
Jerk, choke, jerk, jerk, choke, pull, jerk, choke...dog is still very nervous and fixating on other dogs even when executing its obedience maneuvers. Can only imagine the day its owner is not around to jerk, jerk, jerk, choke, pull, jerk him into submission.
@dentalgoggles Hey dude, in this training, the owner had to learn how to handle the dog. After few days, cannot ask to an owner, who doesn't know at all about dog training, to be great as a proffesional trainer. ;) In the video, the owner is the one who controlled the dog. Don't worry, if I would led the dog situation would look different. But this is not the point here.
Good Job! That's exactly the kind of behaviour of the dog adopted from an animal shelter some months ago. I'm always pleased to see when trainers work in real life instead of places where there are no distractions.
@jackdorsin yes, unfortunately, here is not the level of civilisation as there is in some other parts of the world. The politicians are not interested in making good things here(as taking the dogs from the streets for the safety of people). They are interested in stealing and making fortunes.
Miki muzzles should not be used when exercising a dog as they cant pant or vomit.They were only designed to administer treatment.If a dog has to be muzzled during exercise,only use a basket muzzle
i am an animal behaviourist,and have rescued many animals.The sweetest dog i have owned was a Pit Bull Terrier who passed in 2003.The Shih Tzu i now own is 8mths old and the most aggressive dog i have known.I am an experienced dog person,I have had this dog since 7wks,sometimes it is NOT THE OWNER,BUT THE DOG!
In this case,from this footage, it's is about the owner. She didn't know how to handle the leash. The dog's behavior was because of the leash tight and the owner's reaction in certain situations.
my newfoundland mix used to be like that,but is better now..my malamute/shp mix would lung,not bark or growl, but if u did let her go she would attack,she passed away now tho...and it was towards other dogs or animals not humans
Neuring doesnt solve the problem training does. People do lack knowledge I agree, and people should be better informed and helped with these animals. They shouldnt be shot. Its not there fault they are agressive.
I do not understand how people lack the ability to raise a dog! I have never had a single problem with ANY of my animals, whether it be a cat, or dog, gerbil, or hamster. I even have two female dogs, both of dominant breeds, and introduced the one into the house while the other was 5 Years old, and they have now bonded as Mother/Daughter. I have neighbors who have problem dogs, but I've never had issues. Maybe I'm just good with animals.
it doesnt matter..u need to teach it that thats not how u act even if u want to have fun..ur the type of girl that loves dogs n doesnt teach them obedience, cuz u think everythign is mean...n then wonder why your dog has bad habits
hope u do not mind my comment,get a lab cause i have heard UNEXPECTED cases where guard dogs no matter what breeds or how their intelligence are,may bite any one to death one day including owners..if lucky, then there's no such case in it's history.sorry if you may find my comment is offensive, but im a dog and a human lover too...
What the hell kinda "training" is this? The dog never even contacts another dog to see if he's really being dog aggressive or not. Further, the owner looks like she's anticipating ever move the dog will make... which makes him nervous. She's the problem in the first place.
Yes. U r right somehow. But... It's already known that the owner is the problem. But the owner has start to have some confidence in her self. This starts with some handling,in this case,then with the proove that the dog is not so aggressive with the dogs,as the owner thinks. I have video images with this dog,interacting with another dogs... but this is another level... maybe one time u'll see.
So much for your knowledge of the English language. The word you are looking for is mongrel - a bastard for your information is "a person born of unmarried parents; an illegitimate child"; whereas a mongrel is "a dog of mixed or indeterminate breed"; My point is that the dog's agressive behaviour is governed by the german shepherd genetic makeup.
Thank you for inlighment. In our language we call dogs of mixed breed a bastard (or "mix" as slang), I guess thats why I wrote it. We really dont have a good word for "illegitimate child". We have used "not genuine" in the past i guess, but nowadays its not an issue. I like mongrels, as they have less chance of inbreed. Sorry if I misunderstood, dogs are in no way harmless if in a corner.
yeah? how? my dog's been attacked by them, my neighbor's dogs have been attacked by them, my neighbors and friends themselves have been attacked by them, i was attacked by them when i was a child, all with NO provocation. wanna tell me a reason why I should like them?
Im sorry to hear that. And I can understand your opinion.. Now I dont think the dogs are to blame. I have a german shepard, and she loves to play and is very loveable for young and old. She can seem a bit aggressive, but I think its part of german shepards way to communicate. Barking is typical. I dont think they want to fight, but to keep control. Like the shepards they are. Should have had a herd.
Yeah that's true, I have a sheltie who has natural herding instincts too and it shows. Not in an aggressive way though, but he gets huffy when you leave the house, and would try to herd my poor cat!
Ai dreptate, aici e vorba de proprietarii de caini intradevar. Dar si ei au sansa sa fie educati cum sa "negocieze" cu comportamentul canin,de-acum. Eu fac tot ce imi sta in putinta. Te-as invita sa vizionezi si filmul "Panic attack-G Retriever"-un alt caz foarte interesant.
like what Cesar Millan said, a dogs attitude reflects how the owner raised them...sooooo true! If dogs are trained as early as two months and was socialized properly then this aggressiveness will not occur but then again, aggressiveness depends on the root whether the dog lacks socialization or had trauma...I can very well relate coz I have a dog whom I turned into a monster bec. I spoiled it..but my other dog which is GSD was raised properly...so he turned out to be how I wanted him to be...
prettybaby2703 6 months ago
okay, first of all there was no sign of aggression from the dog. he/she was simply over excited. there is mistake #1. second after the "16 days of training" you can clearly see by the dogs posture, tail tucked ears back, that the training methods used were forceful and negative. so congratulations now you have a dog that went from just way too excited, to now living a stressful and sad life. maybe this training proccess should have started with the dog getting fixed.
deyan125 9 months ago
we gotta put ours down because he's to BAD trys to kill anything that isn't family .
Dominique6586 11 months ago
I feel sorry for an owner who is looking to a trainer for guidance and being instructed to use punishment techniques instead of addressing the root of the dog's reactivity issues. I feel sorry for the trainer who has not come into this new century with updated, scientific, and proven behavioral modification techniques and who does not realize that punishing reactive behavior without changing the dog's state of emotion will cause it to "act out" in a different (and likely worse) way.
dentalgoggles 2 years ago
@dentalgoggles yes you can feel sorry...
but you miss a point
you don't know what a painter wants to create, after just few lines on the paper.
There are stages in training, so preparing the owner and growing confidence in his mind is one of them.
The dog should feel his owner confident in his maneuvers to recognize his ascendent. So... after this stage,the owner mentaly prepared and the dog recognizing some leash suggestions and obeying to them, starts modifications the state of his mind. ;)
catalin30 2 years ago
@dentalgoggles Try rehabilitating a dog in that context and with that behavioral problems using clicker training or some positive techniques at this stage could be waste time. I have a logical theory in training based on dog's natural instincts, which is very efficient(I won't describe it to you now).
catalin30 2 years ago
Catalin, you're absolutely right. Though I've been into clicker training for a decade. When it comes to aggressive, vicious dogs that are causing severe damage, the problem is simple: You don't get a behavior you could reinforce with positive means. The dog has learned that it is his aggressive behavior that is successful. There is no way to ignore it. If you don't stop the dog's attacks you simply won't reach a stage where you could work with positive reinforcement.
OneGoodBite 2 years ago
Everything is logical. Clicker training is poetry... it is beautiful, but it has its limits, it doesn't work all the time.
In the present, I am using clicker training combined with other training methods getting dog training of all kind of dogs, reliable.
Sometimes I am using pure clicker training method but not for obedience in real life, real situations... I am using it only for training dogs for movies and commercials.
catalin30 2 years ago
@OneGoodBite false, i have seen dogs that are so aggressive they attack their owners of 5-10 years and trainers that were actually reputable were able to rehabilitate the dogs using a clicker and positive reinforcement techniques. so if you say that the dog is just too aggressive or is too out of control or whatever, then you could probably pass as a reputable trainer in romania, but that is nothing for you to be proud of. NO dog is too aggressive for positive reinforcement
deyan125 9 months ago
@dentalgoggles After some stages, the dogs receives rewards for some behaviors and meet the positive associations with the context.
Don't worry, the dog is ok now, he never made victims as you think that he could do. The owner is good as well ;)
catalin30 2 years ago
@catalin30. Thanks for the response. I most definitely understand that one must get the owner motivated and build some confidence and I commend you for making such efforts. However, here in the US, there is a Mexican man with a TV show with "quick fix" videos like this that has caused many problems for dogs and owners. Furthermore, If a shelter worker treats a reactive dog like this, and it tries to defend itself from the harsh corrections, the dog is deemed unadoptable and gets killed.
dentalgoggles 2 years ago
@dentalgoggles where and when is the dog being punished? I missed it.
lottabubbles725 1 year ago
@lottabubbles725 so you just proved you know nothing. the dog is not being punished in the video, DUH. but by looking at his posture and how stressed the dog looks while being "obedient" it is clear that the training techniques used to get these results were of course forceful and punishing. you cant justify that no matter how hard you tried
deyan125 9 months ago
Jerk, choke, jerk, jerk, choke, pull, jerk, choke...dog is still very nervous and fixating on other dogs even when executing its obedience maneuvers. Can only imagine the day its owner is not around to jerk, jerk, jerk, choke, pull, jerk him into submission.
dentalgoggles 2 years ago
@dentalgoggles Hey dude, in this training, the owner had to learn how to handle the dog. After few days, cannot ask to an owner, who doesn't know at all about dog training, to be great as a proffesional trainer. ;) In the video, the owner is the one who controlled the dog. Don't worry, if I would led the dog situation would look different. But this is not the point here.
catalin30 2 years ago
@dentalgoggles Something else... letting the dog free, off leash, is a matter of patience and hard work taking the stages gradually. ;)
catalin30 2 years ago
@dentalgoggles By the way... Don't worry, you're not greater then that owner. ;)
catalin30 2 years ago
Good Job! That's exactly the kind of behaviour of the dog adopted from an animal shelter some months ago. I'm always pleased to see when trainers work in real life instead of places where there are no distractions.
OneGoodBite 2 years ago
this is no german sheperd
antonberk 2 years ago
Too many unleased dogs, irresponsbile owners
and that woman had no hope in hell of controlling that dog... she should not have a dog..
mujibatt 2 years ago
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OneGoodBite 2 years ago
@mujibatt Oh yes... This is radical thought about this... Anytime there is a chance for everybody to correct them self and achieve. ;)
catalin30 2 years ago
That was an excellent training montage!
FacnyCatFighter 2 years ago
lol my dogs love watching this
iluvjbsomuch1 3 years ago
why are there so many unleashed dogs walking around
sk8erpunkguy04 3 years ago 2
Right.
bobby5642 2 years ago
in bucharest - Romania
jackdorsin 3 years ago
@jackdorsin yes, unfortunately, here is not the level of civilisation as there is in some other parts of the world. The politicians are not interested in making good things here(as taking the dogs from the streets for the safety of people). They are interested in stealing and making fortunes.
catalin30 2 years ago
shes gunna kill the dog by cgoking it!
buster332211 3 years ago
it looks like a husky
tboarder27 3 years ago
Miki muzzles should not be used when exercising a dog as they cant pant or vomit.They were only designed to administer treatment.If a dog has to be muzzled during exercise,only use a basket muzzle
Linsstead 3 years ago
You're right. Anyway, It worked well without problems as you told.
catalin30 3 years ago
i am an animal behaviourist,and have rescued many animals.The sweetest dog i have owned was a Pit Bull Terrier who passed in 2003.The Shih Tzu i now own is 8mths old and the most aggressive dog i have known.I am an experienced dog person,I have had this dog since 7wks,sometimes it is NOT THE OWNER,BUT THE DOG!
Linsstead 3 years ago
In this case,from this footage, it's is about the owner. She didn't know how to handle the leash. The dog's behavior was because of the leash tight and the owner's reaction in certain situations.
catalin30 3 years ago
my newfoundland mix used to be like that,but is better now..my malamute/shp mix would lung,not bark or growl, but if u did let her go she would attack,she passed away now tho...and it was towards other dogs or animals not humans
Demean69 3 years ago
Neuring doesnt solve the problem training does. People do lack knowledge I agree, and people should be better informed and helped with these animals. They shouldnt be shot. Its not there fault they are agressive.
1234abi 4 years ago
I do not understand how people lack the ability to raise a dog! I have never had a single problem with ANY of my animals, whether it be a cat, or dog, gerbil, or hamster. I even have two female dogs, both of dominant breeds, and introduced the one into the house while the other was 5 Years old, and they have now bonded as Mother/Daughter. I have neighbors who have problem dogs, but I've never had issues. Maybe I'm just good with animals.
GUMMYBEAYUH 4 years ago
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Those dogs should be shot.
seriall1337 4 years ago
u did a really good job
i have 3 pitbulls and a german sheperd that used to be that way.
monkeybuttmaster 4 years ago
good job on fixing the aggression, but, the lady shouldnt have to bend downa and yank on the lead evrytime she wants to the dog to do a down...
silenceofthemist 4 years ago
GET THE DOG NEUTERED!!!
XOclandestinepunk 4 years ago
the dog was happy!!wanted to have fun with other ones...dumbs.....dont U see it tails?
linda177 4 years ago
it doesnt matter..u need to teach it that thats not how u act even if u want to have fun..ur the type of girl that loves dogs n doesnt teach them obedience, cuz u think everythign is mean...n then wonder why your dog has bad habits
rodrig86 4 years ago
just because the tails are wagging doesnt meen that they are happy, it can meen fear, aggression, excitement, timidness
eadgbe517 3 years ago
hope u do not mind my comment,get a lab cause i have heard UNEXPECTED cases where guard dogs no matter what breeds or how their intelligence are,may bite any one to death one day including owners..if lucky, then there's no such case in it's history.sorry if you may find my comment is offensive, but im a dog and a human lover too...
ckf1127 4 years ago
Thank you for your comment... and for your advice too. :)
catalin30 4 years ago
You can't handle an aggressive dog don't get one. You need to be the alpha leader and no how to say shut up without being afraid!!!
deonvan 4 years ago
Right! Its a matter of the owners,not dogs.
catalin30 5 years ago
What the hell kinda "training" is this? The dog never even contacts another dog to see if he's really being dog aggressive or not. Further, the owner looks like she's anticipating ever move the dog will make... which makes him nervous. She's the problem in the first place.
urgrad03 5 years ago
Yes, I agree. This is not good training at all. Someone should train the owner first.
BeatsonsGirl84 5 years ago
Yes. U r right somehow. But... It's already known that the owner is the problem. But the owner has start to have some confidence in her self. This starts with some handling,in this case,then with the proove that the dog is not so aggressive with the dogs,as the owner thinks. I have video images with this dog,interacting with another dogs... but this is another level... maybe one time u'll see.
catalin30 5 years ago
So much for your knowledge of the English language. The word you are looking for is mongrel - a bastard for your information is "a person born of unmarried parents; an illegitimate child"; whereas a mongrel is "a dog of mixed or indeterminate breed"; My point is that the dog's agressive behaviour is governed by the german shepherd genetic makeup.
JimiHandtrucks 5 years ago
Thank you for inlighment. In our language we call dogs of mixed breed a bastard (or "mix" as slang), I guess thats why I wrote it. We really dont have a good word for "illegitimate child". We have used "not genuine" in the past i guess, but nowadays its not an issue. I like mongrels, as they have less chance of inbreed. Sorry if I misunderstood, dogs are in no way harmless if in a corner.
pissed101 5 years ago
yeah? how? my dog's been attacked by them, my neighbor's dogs have been attacked by them, my neighbors and friends themselves have been attacked by them, i was attacked by them when i was a child, all with NO provocation. wanna tell me a reason why I should like them?
Snowleoperd 5 years ago
Im sorry to hear that. And I can understand your opinion.. Now I dont think the dogs are to blame. I have a german shepard, and she loves to play and is very loveable for young and old. She can seem a bit aggressive, but I think its part of german shepards way to communicate. Barking is typical. I dont think they want to fight, but to keep control. Like the shepards they are. Should have had a herd.
pissed101 5 years ago
Yeah that's true, I have a sheltie who has natural herding instincts too and it shows. Not in an aggressive way though, but he gets huffy when you leave the house, and would try to herd my poor cat!
Snowleoperd 5 years ago
the music is like a throw back to the worst of the 80's - and true - stop trying to make this dog look harmless - its a german shepherd!!
JimiHandtrucks 5 years ago
Frumos,si ar fi si mai frumos daca mai multi oameni ar lua exemplul asta
vimann 5 years ago
Ai dreptate, aici e vorba de proprietarii de caini intradevar. Dar si ei au sansa sa fie educati cum sa "negocieze" cu comportamentul canin,de-acum. Eu fac tot ce imi sta in putinta. Te-as invita sa vizionezi si filmul "Panic attack-G Retriever"-un alt caz foarte interesant.
catalin30 5 years ago