ROYCE GRACIE Caught: 6/14/07, following his unanimous decision win over Kazushi Sakuraba at Dynamite!! USA. Tested positive for: Nandrolone....thats FACT Relson!!
few years ago almost all "supplements" (like animal pak, anabolic activator, etc etc etc) got some kind of anabolic steroids precursor. and even ephedrine (improves stamina). gotta know what your're "adding" to your body. it's almost impossible to guarantee that a professional athlete stay 100% clean all the time. maybe obligating monthly certified tests. is there a test against GH?
Im responding to a comment that gracie jiu jitsu is still judo..idiot u know nothing about the art or you would know that it is completely differnt..i take gracie jiu jitsu and can tell u that it is nothing like judo...so know ur shit before you open your stupid mouth.
@bearjitsu33 ur making an ass outta yourself. know something about what we do before you open your mouth and embarrass all of us. let me teach you something that obviously your teacher never went over with you and/or you never took the time to research yourself. Esai Maeda came to brazil in 1914 and helped to establish a Japanese immigrant colonie there. Gastão Gracie helped him and because of this Maeda taught his oldest son, Carlos Gracie, KOSEN JUDO. Dont be such a jerkoff next time.
@Winst0ned Ur right but he didn't really teach them Kosen judo, Maeda left Japan before that started it was original Kodokan Judo which pretty much had the same rules as Kosen. That bearjitsu guy just made a complete tool of himself, I'm glad I don't do BJJ at the school he goes to if it's nothing like Judo lol.
Relson Gracie is not cool!!! I would back my brother up no matter what!! Relson has a good job doing exactly what he loves and he owes that in great part to Royce. Relson will never be famous like Royce so I guess this is he's one oppourtunity to put Royce down. What an A hole guilty or not you should allways stand with your family.
@RedScorpio2222 relson is a realist,he cannot deny the test results,they are fact.Its rorian ,not royce that bjj owes a debt of gratitude to,any gracie could have done what royce did and better in renzo and ricksons cases.Rorian went on to be a giant asshole to the rest of the family with his lies and litigation so that gratitude is all worn out.Hes right about royce not training properly though,hes a fucking useless striker and shouldnt bother with it.
gracie family: cheap cheating bastards. whether it be steroids, holding submissions after the ref calls/ pushes them off, spitting on their opponent, kicking marquardt in the face, the list goes on. FUCK the gracie family. they are so talented, but they abused their skills and had no respect in the cage/ring. disgusting motherfuckers
It's funny how mofo's today go out and buy $300 gis and the mutha fuckin gi is covered from head to toe with fucking logos! Plus they're not paying any of you mofo's a dime for being a walking billboard or having a set of Bad Boy eyes across your ass! Then you pay a mofo for the next ten fucking years to get a black belt! Then after it's all said and done a know nothing mofo like Chuck Liddell stops all the shit you paid for with a simple sprawl!!! LOL!!! ROFLMAO!!!
@osensei2987 THANKS FOR TELLING THE TRUTH, YOU ARE RIGHT ON POINT. YOU SEEMED TO BE ONE OF THE FEW WHO IS NOT AFRAID TO COME OUT WITH THIS TRUTHFUL INFORMATION. THANK YOU!
howcome its such a big deal when someone uses steriods but all pro fighters are on some kind of muscle gaining supplement, wether its a powder or a pill, why is steroids such a big deal?
@bbv001 Um lets see, The Gracies founded the Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, and one of the Gracie brothers founded UFC, and now everyone crosstrains in BJJ, and our American Forces train in it now, and Royce even taught Chuck Norris, Guy Ritchie, and Nicolas Cage Jiu Jitsu, and I believe he didnt use Steroids, because the Gracie Diet, is a very very strict diet and raises levels of Nandrolone in your body, plus rumors from Gracies friend says that it was a misread, and he was with Royce for years on road
@RadOne83 WOW.You're an idiot on soo many levels I dont even know where to begin. I'll try and go slow so you dont get confused. Are you fucking kidding me about royce's failed steroid test? His Nandrolone level was 50x what even an olympic athlete's level might be. You wouldn't get that much of a spike from a "gracie diet" you jackass. He got spanked by matt hughes and wanted to beef up for saku. my comment was that not a single gracie has done ANYTHING significant in MMA in about 10 years..
@bbv001 It was obviously a misread you insane bastard, 50x would fucking kill someone, plus steroids arent precisely injected to give you lean muscle they are sloppy meaning that he would bulk up and be grossly bulgy in some spots more than others, also he wouldnt be only 2 lbs more, Steroids would add large amounts of water weight to his mass, if he took anything, it was probably some type of over the counter typical low base booster similar to creatine.
You need to stop being a homo gracie nut-hugger and look at the facts fag. According to the California State Athletic Commission, the average person could produce about 2 ng/ml of Nandrolone, while an athlete following "rigorous physical exercise" could have a level of around 6 ng/ml. Both "A" and "B" test samples provided by Gracie "had a level of over 50 ng/ml and we were informed that the level itself was so elevated that it would not register on the laboratory's calibrator," .. sooo fuck off
@bbv001 Dont you realize that it is a misread? Lol did he look like e was on steroids? lol if he had that much Nandrolone pumping through his body he probably would have beat the piss out of Sakuraba, but he didnt, it was down to decision, and did you know computers arent always accurate? His body is the size of a fucking toothpick, if he was juicing he would show signs, and as I said before, he was probably using something that boosts Nandrolone levels in your body.
@bbv001 Many theories and explanations have been put forward as to the reason for high nandrolone levels in top athletes. The most common theory is that when dietary supplements are digested in the body, the chemical products from this process could be the same as those produced when nandrolone is broken down in the digestive process. --------that came from an expert on Nandrolone levels, also it says, They could be unstable urine samples. so die please?
@bbv001 Like Dianobol, for example, if he were to use that at anytime before they "caught" him, it would would the levels of Nandrolone in your body past the detection point, to make you more vulnerable to getting caught, even though he technically didnt use steroids., just do me a favor and read on this stuff.
@RadOne83 Ground fighting was bad assed in the early years of UFC because nobody knew shit about it. Therefore, most fighters had no defense. It's really laughable how the OLD UFC was basically a glorified tough man competition with a bunch of storefront "Masters" and "senseis" from Mac Dojos and mofos claiming to be ninjas and shit! LOL! That's was Gracie's competition in the old days! Now if you wanna talk Rickson and Pride then that's a whole different story!
@RadOne83 BJJ = Judo! All Gracie did was take Judo and develop strategies and tactics that helped him compete against his larger and stronger opponents. If u develop a strategy for competing in an sport then that's not the same thing as creating a new art dumb asses. It's still Judo! Just like Muhammad Ali and Sugar Ray Leonard had ring strategies, but they never claimed to have invented a new art! Anyone can study Judo and come up w/ their own personal strategy.
Relson didn't brag, deny, or make excuses. An honorable man. I like him. Much better than I do Royce, to say the least. No consistant "BJJ always wins, it's much better, BJJ invincible", just mature, honest talk. Respect to you, Relson.
I don't know what kind of bro's these guys are I think after their father died, they went all for own succes and became friends or something... I think they don't even like each other... They don't even try to talk good for their brother just by rumors giving opinions on their own flesh and blood... Sound more like GAY JEW JITSHIT to me !!
i dont the the gracie bro's are close. everyone does their own thing... if you look at the vid where they ask renzo, renzo says the dont talk to much.
zamzamlele +1, but only about the steroids. I don't know about cocaine and heroine.
Get it right ; all high-profile athletes, in every sport, are born to compete at high level, are trained to compete at high level and are also "supported" to compete there.
if you guys are shocked by royce using steroids don't look after the other fighters whatever the sport,when it comes to a high level,roids are used and overused,oh and r emember also that roids don't necessarly make you big ,they all use it ,they use cocain too,heroin too and more stuff than "tiny"anabolic steroids
you might as well loss respect for half the athletic community then, and if i was fighting at 40 i would be taking them too, muscle elestin's and joint regrowth are hardly like taking strength boosting roids. i'm not condoning but you gotta remeber its fuckin hard on your body when you fight your whole life. i think saying you've lost respect is just a tad out of perspective.
Iam surprised to hear Relson agaisnt Royce doing kicks and punches . He's doing that to be more well rounded . BJJ by itself hasnt won in MMA since the early 90's . So it's smart he would combine arts .
So what if someone uses steroids? why are so many people are anal about steroid use? I understand it will give advantage in competition but if you aren't in competition then why should steroid use be illegal. I would like to have the strength advantage over a thug that might attack me on the streets :-)
yea but those roids your talking about make everything grow like crazy, including any cysts,cancer or other abnormality's so there is def some bad mojo involved
Thanks for the desdavis, I didn't know that. I think I will still take the risk. I would like to do a 6 month course with roids just to help out with some old injuries. I know that you lose most of your gains (size) when you stop roids but you can still maintain a lot of the strength gains. True?
Kazushi Sakuraba was the only MMA fighter to ever beat all four Gracies... (Royler, Royce, Renzo, and Ryan)
No one saw the second match up... The first match was shown all over the world and Sakuraba went down in the history books forever as "The Gracie Hunter."
He also gave Royler, Royce, and Ryan their first loses and Renzo his second.
Royce knew he couldn't beat Sakuraba and didn't want to give his people shame so instead used drugs to win the second match with dishonor.
Royce was already a bad ass! It's not like he was taking roids in his prime. Too many people speculate and talk smack about the Gracies, but will never have the balls to say something to their face. Keep posting your girly remarks on yourube because you will never get any closer to talk S*%t in your life... losers!!
It's time for Royce to step back and retire. Leave the spotlight to the young guns. There comes a time, your body just can't keep up to the Expectations and demands.
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@fLiaZz ITS CLEAR ROYCE DIDN'T TAKE ROIDS WHEN HE WON THE UFC'S look at how skinny he was and look at it now hes bigger he stared taking roids because the game changed because he introduced the world to brazilian jiu jitsu and now they all train in it thats why he stared taking it because he couldn't win anymore just by using skills like he did in the old days
The Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu master was fined $2,500 (the maximum penalty the Commission can impose) and suspended for the remainder of his licence, which ended on May 30, 2008. Gracie paid the fine. - Sporting News
If he didn't use steroids, where was his appeal and protest. He paid the fine and accepted the judgement.
dont be inocent if he had appealed he woudnt fight longer than a year because of the judgement burocracy so he finished it already
a fighting style that uses the oponent strength to beat him dont need extra strenght
steroids doesnt boost your tecnique .bjj is all about tequinique.wanna talk about steroids look to the american wrestlers,they use the shit that is not caught in any test .hypocrites,look to the american"olimpic athletes"dat are not beeing caught but confessed they used after years
lol thats funny dude. $2500 dollars? didnt he make $380,000 on the fight? good to see the punishment fits the crime. fuck royce gracie. long live rickson,roger,ryan,renzo,rodrigo,rener, relek and cesar... lol basically everone besides royce is what i mean to say..
@qwertyuiopqwerty4 Lissent... Rorion, Rener, Royce, Rickson eats only fruits and vegetable. This is the gracie diet like in brazil. They never drink alchool, smoke or take drugs... this is a family diet from Helio and all this is something made by people who hate the gracies... Wake up people if you know these guys you would understand!
@civicturbolive lad,royce has sweet fuck all contact with the gracie academy since he broke away and you have no idea what royce does behind closed doors.We do know he took roids as the tests show and that he had gotten leaner and more muscular.The drugs labs arent agisnst the gracies,the way testing works is that testers dont even know whose sample they have.Helio had nothing to do with the gracie diet,it was carlos.
You cannot rely on the steroid tests that they use, there are so many false positives that completely discredit alot of tests. If Royce actually did use them, i doubt it, look at the guy does it look like he uses steroids. Plus for the style of fighting Royce uses there is no need for him to use steroids, BJJ is all about technique, hes not a knockout artist where every ounce of weight gives you an advantage.
my opinion is that the world is violent. people miss that when bjj comes and says "fight me" its to show that all violent forms of fighting can be beaten without really harming your oponent. when I only knew how to box I could only win a fight by really hurting you. I am very against anyone just attacking another person but as a christian I really dont want to harm other people who have a moment of anger and come at me. bjj works for me on many levels. im glad the Gracies spread there art.
I am not brazilian but comments say violent culture? I was a boxer and took hapkido but when I got older I learned bjj. I send my daughter to bjj and she is 5. I am 40 and I would just like to say that steroids and violence where around in boxing but in bjj I have not seen any. no ego, no violence, no bragging, no steroids, just people learning to defend themselves. now champions in any sport are at diffrent levels than normal everyday people so I imagine the temptations are there......
Urine analysis as a method of detecting nandrolone abuse has recently become somewhat controversial, following studies by the University of Aberdeen showing that the metabolite product can also show up in urine in quantities above the upper limit from a combination of high-protein diets utilising the legal nutritional supplement creatine and hard cardiovascular exercise.
Hey, but really. We don't know if someone who didn't want Royce to win, may have secretly spiked his food / drink with steroids, wo when he was tested after the fight, it was positive. Ever consider that maybe Royce was set up?
hey you know what royce doesnt care cause i saw him here in asia they have this team fights his team fought ken shamrock team and ..any way royce is ok
I've got news for you guys; almost EVERYBODY in MMA uses juice. 95% of the fighters use steriods and/or painkillers. They just know how to beat the test with masking agents, using oral steriods that clear through the system faster, using "The Clear", or other methods to beat the test. You can tell by the obvious signs of gynocostemia (bitch tits) and other side effects. To be the best at anything in life you need an unfair advantage. Those who fight clean are at a disadvantage. The truth sucks.
I think natural fighters can put themselfs at an advantage by training harder, im natural and i train so hard that steroid users dont bother me, although i agree if i took steroids i would be stronger, but for me the risk isnt worth it!
Royce felt the pressure of trying to compete with todays fighters and used. I don't agree with it, I think it harms his legacy, but at the same time I can understand why he did it.
i saw the fight and is evident at royce's eyes that he is heavy on steroids... the guy is awesome and we still can't take that away from him, but he should've retired clean...
learn to accept defeat when the time comes, and your time is now, god bless you royce.
The new sport is called : "Juice Jitsu" to anyone who is a grappler and uses steroids, not just a Gracie. I give him the benefit of the doubt, but time will eventually tell.
Royce knew the only way for him to bring pride back to his family and beat Sakuraba(The Gracie Hunter) is to use STEROID to make himself stronger, i undertand that Royce's fan like to make excuses for him but u have to understand that Sakuraba is almost the same age as Royce when they fought last year,a cheater will always be a cheater
This is dissapointing, but u gotta remember the guy is 40+, so to prform like he did back when he was 26 he though he needed the extra enhancements. . well, maybe he will learn 4rom this mistake and not do it again. . . but dont think just cuz of him all gracies like that, cuz they not. Also, royce is one of the best period, maybe he just lost confidence, but this wont make me stop liking BJJ
Everybody has their moment, good or bad so I am sure that he has paid is penance for this. Now we move on and BJJ is still a very good system as well as all other martial arts systems. You are right Royce is on of the best, this transgression takes nothing away from that, bottom line we all have our days. I like combining BJJ with other martial arts systems, makes for one hell of an arsenal!
The California State Athletic Commission's Bill Douglas told MMAWeekly, "Currently, our rules do not support overturning a decision based off the drug test results. However, Armando Garcia and I are meeting with the Attorney General next month to begin the process of modifying the existing laws to incorporate those rules for the future. Should everything move along like I anticipate, I would expect to see the changes in place by the end of the year."
"On June 14, 2007, the controversy surrounding the match deepened as the California State Athletic Commission revealed that Gracie had tested positive for massive amounts of Nandrolone (ten times the possible natural occurrence of the chemical even at the highest level of athletic training), an anabolic steroid.The Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu master was fined $2,500 (the maximum penalty the Commission can impose) and suspended for the remainder of his license, which ends on May 30, 2008."
good video honest man!!! still i lost respect for the gracies it shows that they are willing to play dirty in order to win. theres renzo vs frank hahahah what a clown/faker and of course "ROIDS GRACIE" vs sakuraba
Good man Royce, the guy is still and always will be an important sporting icon of our time... The journey trvelled is always more important than the destination IMO.
People make bad judgements. Not making bad judgements makes us un-human.
You gotta admit it's Royce's BRAIN in his fights that wins anyway.
Royce has to use punch and kick into his new mma. That just proves that his bjj isnt as perfect as all you sheep thaught it was. Hmmmmm. You all got tea baged in tha mouth!!!
No disrespect to Royce, but one of the very first men he fought...... really wasn't that good. It's almost the analogy of a "BIG FISH in a small pond." I'd like to see Royce go up against well known boxers, like Mike Tyson, for example.
royce uses steroids?it maybe.and the other guys?fedor,crocop,kimbo,bas rutten and the list goes on to infinite.what do you think about them?? are they natural???? and about others sports like cycling,athletic,power lifting, body buildng,running ...etc.. whath do you think??? it's about alls high level sports!!!no one excluded.right or wrong this is the truth,you like it or not!one guy must not pays for all the others!!! ...meditate people ...meditate
THE GRACIES haven't been impressive. Poeple caught on with the gracies' style, and sadly the gracies are still behind in stand up. Royce should retire to save the Gracies' face
Yet another MMA fighter has tested positive for steroids and this time it's legendary Royce Gracie.
The California State Athletic Commission released information Tuesday at 5:35 p.m. from tests results that showed Gracie's two samples revealed traces of nandrolone metabolite.
The Brazilian jujitsu master is suspended for the remainer of his license that ends on May 30, 2008. Gracie has been fined $2,500....
I first saw Royces fighting exploits on video in early 1996. Do you think he was using steroids then? Or is this a recent practice? Come to think of it, when I watch Royce beat men much bigger / stronger than him way back when, it did seem unusual. Perhaps he is a big fish in a small pond, or perhaps he was using in the 1990s? You tell me.
Perhaps an enemy of Royce "secretly" spiked his food, drink and intake with steroids. Royce did not know it, and when he stepped into the ring and was tested later, he tested positive.
Royce Gracie is a excellent fighter. He is easily one of the best fighters of all time. He was one of the best fighters for a significant amount of time. He was one of the big factors in helping U.F.C. grow so fast.
alright guys the question is not who has the best martial art, the obvious answer is that an amalgamation of all of the best moves and techniques (a.k.a. a rounded game) makes the best, most consistent fighters in the world. Unfortunately people get caught up in organizational arrogance forget that any martial art (excluding in my opinion the mma) is about bettering oneself, not about being better than others.
Gracie Jiu-Jitsu is a very good style for MMA. And you dont need to be allround to be good. Watch Dean Lister, 100% grappler 9-5 records all losses are due to decisions.
Melvin Manhoef is a 100% muay thai fighter and he is top5 LHW in the world.
What is this dude talking about Royce distancing himself. If u look at the Post fight interview, He is there with is father and family. Learn to speak to the media homie.
The Gracies are superior fighters. They grew up in a very tough environment. It's just that I don't know how this one Japanese fighter beat them. Japanese culture is diametrically opposed to Brazil.
Grapplers are better at their art than all the strikers are at theirs.
Helivz the reason Sakuraba could defeat the the Gracies is because he is very good at striking and grappling. Sakuraba had an answer to anything the Gracies could throw at him when it came to ground fighting and then easily out strike them. MMA is more than one martial art..I dont know what your talking about with culture it has nothing to do with the fact that gracies are half rate mma fighters..
i really think u should show more respect for the gracies who created mma in the first place. the gracies created the ufc and made mma what it is today. without royce there would be no rampage or sakuraba or liddell for that matter. u dont know what your talking about so shut up.
alright obie maybe ur just a dumbass or something but ur appartnely not getting it..maybe u should open ur eyes ..yes the gracies help create mma and the whole world is greatful BUT they are very stubborn on their particular art that they dont train others very well n therefore have bad habits as mma fighters..they often get shut down by good fighters that train other arts like muay thai, boxing wrestling ect..lying on ur back and refusing stand up makes them poor fighters, case closed idiot
i really think U should show respect for the fella at the turn of the century who showed the Gracies the art of grappling; Mr. Maeda. He passed on ancient teachings, and the Gracies modified it to accomodate smaller and weaker opponents. Without Maeda , there would be no "Great Gracie Name" in mma and ufc fighting, PERIOD.
check your facts, man. Royce's father created Gracie jiu jitsu, wich is the style Royce is using. Gracie IS the reason MMA is the way it is today. Theres no argue on that.
and qutierjm: watch the early UFC, muay thai, and this other sh*t ur talking about doesn't stand a chance against Gracie jiu jitsu.. NOW its case closed mthrfooker...
Royces father learned the art from Maeda, and Helio modified it to fit his physical frame.
The strikers are not nearly as good in their striking abilities as the grapplers are in grappling. Those "strikers" in ufc/mma are not the real thing. Mas Oyama was the real thing and so was the late Bruce Lee.
Not that I'm slamming the grappling style, but if the truth be known, they are BIG FISH in a small pond.
I had an instructor who could take on three, four and five BIG men, simultaneously. Wonder why he doesn't enter U.F.C. and MMA?
His philosophy is: "The best fighter is not one who can win one hundred out of one hundred fights, but one who can AVOID one hundred out of one hundred fights."
It takes a BIGGER man to walk away from conflict, and not try to prove and impress people.
My instructor has no need to impress people. He is secure in himself. He trained from the hard school.
sounds like you do that choreographed bullshit were the instructor beats people up using his "chi" or some magic nonsense. not very many people can win a fight against five opponents unless it's choreagraphed. convieniently people from bullshit martial arts never compete in MMA because they "don't need to impress people" but they are the first to take on five people (students of coarse) in a fight to show what badasses they are. all bark and no bite.
I know of one black foreigner who took on three bikers and two bouncers, simultaneously and won!! He of course, had striking skills that were astounding. He laid them all out flat, in short order. He has never competed in MMA /UFC. So what? Just because MMA / UFC has never pitted one excellent striker against multiple opponents doesn't mean these kinds of fighters don't exist.
any martial artist is going to have more advantage to any soft average Joe on the street that has never exercised or trained. You're probably referring to this guy. Look this video up..."Kiai Master Ryukerin vs MMA fighter for $5k." Peace.
Its been said that 95% of fights end up on the ground, which leaves that 5% exception to the rule. I've seen my instructor perform striking skills. He has entered kumite where, within seconds, he struck another black belts solar plexus, and had him gasping for air. This is what I'm talking about. Unlike MMA/UFC strikers, my instructor is alot faster, pinpoint accurate, can deliver with devastating results, and has mastered timing / distance dynamics. He isn't arrogant and cocky either.
Just because some martial artists have never been in the Octagon DOES NOT make them "all bark and no bite," and just because many artists do enter the Octagon DOES NOT necessarily make them the best in the world.
Mas Oyama for one, came from a different time period, and so did the late Bruce Lee. Both had lethal striking skills; lightning quick, pinpoint accurate, and they delivered with devastating impact. We're talking broken bones, on the first hit too.
obie.. yes respect should be shown to fighters and teachers. However, to claim that "the gracies created the UFC and made MMA" is ridiculous. Just because Royce won the first couple UFC tournaments doesn't mean he created MMA or made the UFC as popular today. Royce was NOT an MMA fighter.. he was a BJJ fighter. In the early days of cage fighting, MMA was still in it's infancy. Most guys specialized in one form (or were scrappers with no training).The UFC became popular long after Gracie's wins.
Hi. Ever hear of May Oyama? He was an exceptional striker, unlike those we see today. Mas Oyama and his buddy were jumped by seven thugs, and they literally kicked their butts. These seven thugs were armed too! Mas and his martial arts buddy literally obliterated them, SIMULTANEOUSLY. Mas Oyama was a true striker and would put other MMA/UFC strikers to utter shame. His aim was accurate, his delivery quick and devastating. One hit, broken ribs, one strike, broken collarbone.
ROYCE GRACIE Caught: 6/14/07, following his unanimous decision win over Kazushi Sakuraba at Dynamite!! USA. Tested positive for: Nandrolone....thats FACT Relson!!
TheSiftonStrangler 1 week ago
Lol I respect Relson. He's one of the more outspoken Gracies. He's a brutally honest person. No filter. He tells it like it is.
hondaciviccoupe10 3 weeks ago
2:10 ahah
LegendaryGSP 1 month ago
few years ago almost all "supplements" (like animal pak, anabolic activator, etc etc etc) got some kind of anabolic steroids precursor. and even ephedrine (improves stamina). gotta know what your're "adding" to your body. it's almost impossible to guarantee that a professional athlete stay 100% clean all the time. maybe obligating monthly certified tests. is there a test against GH?
c0V3Ro 7 months ago
winstoned got poned lol
sharkfinnigan 7 months ago
they don't pee test for local bjj tournaments. they are referring to ufc.
dopemelody 9 months ago
@YyJoBb Steroid use can "stunt" your life span, or "Stunt" your temper span. It will definitely "stunt" your reputation.
Helivz 10 months ago
shoosheeshoo.No gracie has ever said jiu jitsu only Shoosheeshoo.
AidenReilly1 10 months ago
Im responding to a comment that gracie jiu jitsu is still judo..idiot u know nothing about the art or you would know that it is completely differnt..i take gracie jiu jitsu and can tell u that it is nothing like judo...so know ur shit before you open your stupid mouth.
bearjitsu33 1 year ago
@bearjitsu33 ur making an ass outta yourself. know something about what we do before you open your mouth and embarrass all of us. let me teach you something that obviously your teacher never went over with you and/or you never took the time to research yourself. Esai Maeda came to brazil in 1914 and helped to establish a Japanese immigrant colonie there. Gastão Gracie helped him and because of this Maeda taught his oldest son, Carlos Gracie, KOSEN JUDO. Dont be such a jerkoff next time.
Winst0ned 11 months ago
@Winst0ned Ur right but he didn't really teach them Kosen judo, Maeda left Japan before that started it was original Kodokan Judo which pretty much had the same rules as Kosen. That bearjitsu guy just made a complete tool of himself, I'm glad I don't do BJJ at the school he goes to if it's nothing like Judo lol.
Jimmynable 6 months ago
Relson Gracie is not cool!!! I would back my brother up no matter what!! Relson has a good job doing exactly what he loves and he owes that in great part to Royce. Relson will never be famous like Royce so I guess this is he's one oppourtunity to put Royce down. What an A hole guilty or not you should allways stand with your family.
RedScorpio2222 1 year ago
@RedScorpio2222 relson is a realist,he cannot deny the test results,they are fact.Its rorian ,not royce that bjj owes a debt of gratitude to,any gracie could have done what royce did and better in renzo and ricksons cases.Rorian went on to be a giant asshole to the rest of the family with his lies and litigation so that gratitude is all worn out.Hes right about royce not training properly though,hes a fucking useless striker and shouldnt bother with it.
billysue2 1 year ago
@RedScorpio2222 yes you should always stand by your family. but that doesn't mean you lie for them. Royce cheated and had to pay the price for it.
panther2552 11 months ago
I love juice. It's the Flintstone's vitamin of Brazil.
skanemermaid 1 year ago
you can get accidently positiv of steroids by the wrong protein shakes and their ingredients .
if you are the best all others look for reasons to bring you down. thats natuarally
thanatas 1 year ago
fuck the gracies.
2431346 1 year ago
gracie family: cheap cheating bastards. whether it be steroids, holding submissions after the ref calls/ pushes them off, spitting on their opponent, kicking marquardt in the face, the list goes on. FUCK the gracie family. they are so talented, but they abused their skills and had no respect in the cage/ring. disgusting motherfuckers
xKillerWandx 1 year ago
royce called it royce jujitsu anyway not bjj he says he put his own twist on it
kind63026 1 year ago
is he saying host is not following correct traditional techniqe anymore????
diagreen 1 year ago
Royce Gracie = Steroids
criptovicto 1 year ago
It's funny how mofo's today go out and buy $300 gis and the mutha fuckin gi is covered from head to toe with fucking logos! Plus they're not paying any of you mofo's a dime for being a walking billboard or having a set of Bad Boy eyes across your ass! Then you pay a mofo for the next ten fucking years to get a black belt! Then after it's all said and done a know nothing mofo like Chuck Liddell stops all the shit you paid for with a simple sprawl!!! LOL!!! ROFLMAO!!!
osensei2987 1 year ago
@osensei2987 THANKS FOR TELLING THE TRUTH, YOU ARE RIGHT ON POINT. YOU SEEMED TO BE ONE OF THE FEW WHO IS NOT AFRAID TO COME OUT WITH THIS TRUTHFUL INFORMATION. THANK YOU!
daniels37 1 year ago
howcome its such a big deal when someone uses steriods but all pro fighters are on some kind of muscle gaining supplement, wether its a powder or a pill, why is steroids such a big deal?
hazard2000 1 year ago
the gracie's blow and are the single most group of one dimmensial fighters ever...whens the last time they did anything signigicant in the sport?
bbv001 1 year ago
@bbv001 Um lets see, The Gracies founded the Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, and one of the Gracie brothers founded UFC, and now everyone crosstrains in BJJ, and our American Forces train in it now, and Royce even taught Chuck Norris, Guy Ritchie, and Nicolas Cage Jiu Jitsu, and I believe he didnt use Steroids, because the Gracie Diet, is a very very strict diet and raises levels of Nandrolone in your body, plus rumors from Gracies friend says that it was a misread, and he was with Royce for years on road
RadOne83 1 year ago
@RadOne83 WOW.You're an idiot on soo many levels I dont even know where to begin. I'll try and go slow so you dont get confused. Are you fucking kidding me about royce's failed steroid test? His Nandrolone level was 50x what even an olympic athlete's level might be. You wouldn't get that much of a spike from a "gracie diet" you jackass. He got spanked by matt hughes and wanted to beef up for saku. my comment was that not a single gracie has done ANYTHING significant in MMA in about 10 years..
bbv001 1 year ago
@bbv001 It was obviously a misread you insane bastard, 50x would fucking kill someone, plus steroids arent precisely injected to give you lean muscle they are sloppy meaning that he would bulk up and be grossly bulgy in some spots more than others, also he wouldnt be only 2 lbs more, Steroids would add large amounts of water weight to his mass, if he took anything, it was probably some type of over the counter typical low base booster similar to creatine.
RadOne83 1 year ago
You need to stop being a homo gracie nut-hugger and look at the facts fag. According to the California State Athletic Commission, the average person could produce about 2 ng/ml of Nandrolone, while an athlete following "rigorous physical exercise" could have a level of around 6 ng/ml. Both "A" and "B" test samples provided by Gracie "had a level of over 50 ng/ml and we were informed that the level itself was so elevated that it would not register on the laboratory's calibrator," .. sooo fuck off
bbv001 1 year ago
@bbv001 Dont you realize that it is a misread? Lol did he look like e was on steroids? lol if he had that much Nandrolone pumping through his body he probably would have beat the piss out of Sakuraba, but he didnt, it was down to decision, and did you know computers arent always accurate? His body is the size of a fucking toothpick, if he was juicing he would show signs, and as I said before, he was probably using something that boosts Nandrolone levels in your body.
RadOne83 1 year ago
@bbv001 Many theories and explanations have been put forward as to the reason for high nandrolone levels in top athletes. The most common theory is that when dietary supplements are digested in the body, the chemical products from this process could be the same as those produced when nandrolone is broken down in the digestive process. --------that came from an expert on Nandrolone levels, also it says, They could be unstable urine samples. so die please?
RadOne83 1 year ago
@bbv001 Like Dianobol, for example, if he were to use that at anytime before they "caught" him, it would would the levels of Nandrolone in your body past the detection point, to make you more vulnerable to getting caught, even though he technically didnt use steroids., just do me a favor and read on this stuff.
RadOne83 1 year ago
@RadOne83 Ground fighting was bad assed in the early years of UFC because nobody knew shit about it. Therefore, most fighters had no defense. It's really laughable how the OLD UFC was basically a glorified tough man competition with a bunch of storefront "Masters" and "senseis" from Mac Dojos and mofos claiming to be ninjas and shit! LOL! That's was Gracie's competition in the old days! Now if you wanna talk Rickson and Pride then that's a whole different story!
osensei2987 1 year ago
@RadOne83 BJJ = Judo! All Gracie did was take Judo and develop strategies and tactics that helped him compete against his larger and stronger opponents. If u develop a strategy for competing in an sport then that's not the same thing as creating a new art dumb asses. It's still Judo! Just like Muhammad Ali and Sugar Ray Leonard had ring strategies, but they never claimed to have invented a new art! Anyone can study Judo and come up w/ their own personal strategy.
osensei2987 1 year ago
Relson didn't brag, deny, or make excuses. An honorable man. I like him. Much better than I do Royce, to say the least. No consistant "BJJ always wins, it's much better, BJJ invincible", just mature, honest talk. Respect to you, Relson.
azraelangelofred 1 year ago
He wished to be like Matt Huges... lol
vls174 1 year ago
@vls174 lol
Devon187 1 year ago
I don't know what kind of bro's these guys are I think after their father died, they went all for own succes and became friends or something... I think they don't even like each other... They don't even try to talk good for their brother just by rumors giving opinions on their own flesh and blood... Sound more like GAY JEW JITSHIT to me !!
CopaBleyenhoek 1 year ago
thats bs mustve been some medication he wouldve been like a bodybuilder nioway
maxboucher86 2 years ago
bullshit
IdiotReview 2 years ago
i heard that it was actually a supplement that made him recover from injuries faster.
shadetyped 2 years ago
it was steroids. 2 seperate samples tested positive for the same steroid and 25 times the normal amout in a professional athlete.
panther2552 2 years ago 2
I don't know about you guys but I want to see the best of a fighters "natural"ability.
I respect Royce Gracie's past fights but if he is taking roids his future fights mean nothing.
bluevaines 2 years ago 2
i dont the the gracie bro's are close. everyone does their own thing... if you look at the vid where they ask renzo, renzo says the dont talk to much.
oluwakamau 2 years ago
zamzamlele +1, but only about the steroids. I don't know about cocaine and heroine.
Get it right ; all high-profile athletes, in every sport, are born to compete at high level, are trained to compete at high level and are also "supported" to compete there.
scouter3000 2 years ago
I highly doubt they are the typical steroid, it may be a supplement perhaps. I'm still having a hard time believing this.
gkdrummerboy 2 years ago
if you guys are shocked by royce using steroids don't look after the other fighters whatever the sport,when it comes to a high level,roids are used and overused,oh and r emember also that roids don't necessarly make you big ,they all use it ,they use cocain too,heroin too and more stuff than "tiny"anabolic steroids
zamzamlele 2 years ago 3
I would like to know ur references for that or tell us ur credentials because they are hard accusations especially when u mention Heroin
Grindoline 2 years ago
if you do steroids, your a fukin fagt
/end
pAbedaNSK 2 years ago
ive lost my respect for royce, u never do steroids, ever.
pAbedaNSK 2 years ago
you might as well loss respect for half the athletic community then, and if i was fighting at 40 i would be taking them too, muscle elestin's and joint regrowth are hardly like taking strength boosting roids. i'm not condoning but you gotta remeber its fuckin hard on your body when you fight your whole life. i think saying you've lost respect is just a tad out of perspective.
desdavis 2 years ago
Iam surprised to hear Relson agaisnt Royce doing kicks and punches . He's doing that to be more well rounded . BJJ by itself hasnt won in MMA since the early 90's . So it's smart he would combine arts .
sj1778 2 years ago 3
So what if someone uses steroids? why are so many people are anal about steroid use? I understand it will give advantage in competition but if you aren't in competition then why should steroid use be illegal. I would like to have the strength advantage over a thug that might attack me on the streets :-)
EwePeopleRsheeple 2 years ago
yea but those roids your talking about make everything grow like crazy, including any cysts,cancer or other abnormality's so there is def some bad mojo involved
desdavis 2 years ago
Thanks for the desdavis, I didn't know that. I think I will still take the risk. I would like to do a 6 month course with roids just to help out with some old injuries. I know that you lose most of your gains (size) when you stop roids but you can still maintain a lot of the strength gains. True?
EwePeopleRsheeple 2 years ago
true, just do your homework man don't leave the risk up to someone else
desdavis 2 years ago
true
zamzamlele 2 years ago
Kazushi Sakuraba was the only MMA fighter to ever beat all four Gracies... (Royler, Royce, Renzo, and Ryan)
No one saw the second match up... The first match was shown all over the world and Sakuraba went down in the history books forever as "The Gracie Hunter."
He also gave Royler, Royce, and Ryan their first loses and Renzo his second.
Royce knew he couldn't beat Sakuraba and didn't want to give his people shame so instead used drugs to win the second match with dishonor.
kfresh2themax 2 years ago
Royce was already a bad ass! It's not like he was taking roids in his prime. Too many people speculate and talk smack about the Gracies, but will never have the balls to say something to their face. Keep posting your girly remarks on yourube because you will never get any closer to talk S*%t in your life... losers!!
jrenazco 2 years ago
All the Gracies would still kick the asses of everyone who has left a negative comment. Steroids or not they can end lives.
xBROOKSxWASxHEREx 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Royce got disgraced horribly by matt hughes and then needed a way to try and get his reputation back up.
Vortes 2 years ago
bjj or not a gun will stop anyone
stepslow 2 years ago
Royce is still my hero and an MMA legend you can't denie that he is one of the best ever.
xBROOKSxWASxHEREx 2 years ago
Steroids will do that.
Maxwedge12000 2 years ago
I think the gracies are big into drugs. What are the odds of royce and ryan being druggies and the others were not?
Maxwedge12000 2 years ago
Watch what you say
therealalonso 2 years ago
What a pointless statement.
Maxwedge12000 2 years ago
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redcapKO 2 years ago
it happens every one in japan use steroids royce gracie and the family are good people stop hatting on the gracies
lwdasc 2 years ago 6
It's time for Royce to step back and retire. Leave the spotlight to the young guns. There comes a time, your body just can't keep up to the Expectations and demands.
Rayven2711 2 years ago 7
I personally know Relson. But i do not think it is my place to ask him to fight anyone.
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rjones775 3 years ago
Wow. You really are a jackass huh?
MMAOutsider 2 years ago
Sounds like there's some family beef vs Royce lately. Straying away from traditional Gracie jiu-jitsu and the like.
timeswasting 3 years ago
relson gracie should coach royce, without relson...royce loses.
thebestkeptsecret8 3 years ago 4
ROYCE WITHOUT STEROIDS LOSES!!!
criptovicto 2 years ago
Some would argue he lost the fight even with them.
JosephXFS 2 years ago 4
every gracie believes royce did steroids. what a disgrace royce became to the gracies.
fLiaZz 3 years ago 8
@fLiaZz Are you dumb? Helio Gracie even said in his interview that he didnt..
RadOne83 1 year ago
@fLiaZz ITS CLEAR ROYCE DIDN'T TAKE ROIDS WHEN HE WON THE UFC'S look at how skinny he was and look at it now hes bigger he stared taking roids because the game changed because he introduced the world to brazilian jiu jitsu and now they all train in it thats why he stared taking it because he couldn't win anymore just by using skills like he did in the old days
JOAOBUNITAO 1 year ago
@fLiaZz Roids Gracie, new designation. Brazilian Juice Jitsu, another new martial art term for his style of fighting.
Helivz 5 months ago
friggin disgrace to the true gracie's out there
fLiaZz 3 years ago
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Royce GRacie is pure Steroids!!!!!!
Now Royce is a sissy without the steroids!!!
LOL BJJ!!!
criptovicto 3 years ago
you're really fuckin dumb man
hexrei 3 years ago
Steroids make a really fkm dumb man...
criptovicto 3 years ago
The Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu master was fined $2,500 (the maximum penalty the Commission can impose) and suspended for the remainder of his licence, which ended on May 30, 2008. Gracie paid the fine. - Sporting News
If he didn't use steroids, where was his appeal and protest. He paid the fine and accepted the judgement.
qwertyuiopqwerty4 3 years ago 19
dont be inocent if he had appealed he woudnt fight longer than a year because of the judgement burocracy so he finished it already
a fighting style that uses the oponent strength to beat him dont need extra strenght
steroids doesnt boost your tecnique .bjj is all about tequinique.wanna talk about steroids look to the american wrestlers,they use the shit that is not caught in any test .hypocrites,look to the american"olimpic athletes"dat are not beeing caught but confessed they used after years
salum75 3 years ago
Your whole post is gibberish. Were you high when you wrote and thought this out?
BIGthingsSON 2 years ago
lol thats funny dude. $2500 dollars? didnt he make $380,000 on the fight? good to see the punishment fits the crime. fuck royce gracie. long live rickson,roger,ryan,renzo,rodrigo,rener, relek and cesar... lol basically everone besides royce is what i mean to say..
matwizard 3 years ago
Yeah, he made 300,000....
DudeMarko 3 years ago
long live ryan and fuck royce?
did you see ryan in pride?
he used there like ALOT of the other fighters
sudokcd 3 years ago
yo.. ryan is already dead... heh
goofiva 2 years ago 2
@qwertyuiopqwerty4 yeah but the thing is he dident even gain a pound if he was on steroids he would have gained weight
saberman41 1 year ago
@qwertyuiopqwerty4 Lissent... Rorion, Rener, Royce, Rickson eats only fruits and vegetable. This is the gracie diet like in brazil. They never drink alchool, smoke or take drugs... this is a family diet from Helio and all this is something made by people who hate the gracies... Wake up people if you know these guys you would understand!
civicturbolive 1 year ago
@civicturbolive lad,royce has sweet fuck all contact with the gracie academy since he broke away and you have no idea what royce does behind closed doors.We do know he took roids as the tests show and that he had gotten leaner and more muscular.The drugs labs arent agisnst the gracies,the way testing works is that testers dont even know whose sample they have.Helio had nothing to do with the gracie diet,it was carlos.
billysue2 1 year ago
You cannot rely on the steroid tests that they use, there are so many false positives that completely discredit alot of tests. If Royce actually did use them, i doubt it, look at the guy does it look like he uses steroids. Plus for the style of fighting Royce uses there is no need for him to use steroids, BJJ is all about technique, hes not a knockout artist where every ounce of weight gives you an advantage.
kadbery89 3 years ago
i feel piss off at gracie for embarasing his family
royce gracie is an idiot
blastodermx4 3 years ago 5
my opinion is that the world is violent. people miss that when bjj comes and says "fight me" its to show that all violent forms of fighting can be beaten without really harming your oponent. when I only knew how to box I could only win a fight by really hurting you. I am very against anyone just attacking another person but as a christian I really dont want to harm other people who have a moment of anger and come at me. bjj works for me on many levels. im glad the Gracies spread there art.
bikerchrish 3 years ago 3
I am not brazilian but comments say violent culture? I was a boxer and took hapkido but when I got older I learned bjj. I send my daughter to bjj and she is 5. I am 40 and I would just like to say that steroids and violence where around in boxing but in bjj I have not seen any. no ego, no violence, no bragging, no steroids, just people learning to defend themselves. now champions in any sport are at diffrent levels than normal everyday people so I imagine the temptations are there......
bikerchrish 3 years ago 2
where is the honour to the gracie family UFC 1
chinasweetbaby 3 years ago
hope a gracie can win back that honour someday
chinasweetbaby 3 years ago 4
Urine analysis as a method of detecting nandrolone abuse has recently become somewhat controversial, following studies by the University of Aberdeen showing that the metabolite product can also show up in urine in quantities above the upper limit from a combination of high-protein diets utilising the legal nutritional supplement creatine and hard cardiovascular exercise.
WhiteCastle1969 3 years ago
set up? lol dont talk stu pid
muaythal 3 years ago
Royce may have had elevated levels of steroids, registering in his body, but did Royce admit to taking "performance enhancing" chemicals?
When did he address his accusers? Has he even addressed the issue of roids found in his system?
Helivz 3 years ago
Allegations, rumours??
Bull shit he got caught out the unfair steroid bitch
muaythal 3 years ago
Hey, but really. We don't know if someone who didn't want Royce to win, may have secretly spiked his food / drink with steroids, wo when he was tested after the fight, it was positive. Ever consider that maybe Royce was set up?
Helivz 3 years ago
hey you know what royce doesnt care cause i saw him here in asia they have this team fights his team fought ken shamrock team and ..any way royce is ok
2submit 3 years ago
I've got news for you guys; almost EVERYBODY in MMA uses juice. 95% of the fighters use steriods and/or painkillers. They just know how to beat the test with masking agents, using oral steriods that clear through the system faster, using "The Clear", or other methods to beat the test. You can tell by the obvious signs of gynocostemia (bitch tits) and other side effects. To be the best at anything in life you need an unfair advantage. Those who fight clean are at a disadvantage. The truth sucks.
Kellysayshello 3 years ago
I think natural fighters can put themselfs at an advantage by training harder, im natural and i train so hard that steroid users dont bother me, although i agree if i took steroids i would be stronger, but for me the risk isnt worth it!
Paulio1988 3 years ago
Good point, and we may never know how many are "Juice Jitsu" practitioners and how many got where they are at without compromising sports ethics.
Helivz 3 years ago
Royce felt the pressure of trying to compete with todays fighters and used. I don't agree with it, I think it harms his legacy, but at the same time I can understand why he did it.
cfx5000 3 years ago
i saw the fight and is evident at royce's eyes that he is heavy on steroids... the guy is awesome and we still can't take that away from him, but he should've retired clean...
learn to accept defeat when the time comes, and your time is now, god bless you royce.
bridge542003 3 years ago 2
What can you see in a persons eyes to tell whether or not they are on the juice?
Why doesn't Helio Gracie step into the ring? It would be interesting to see if he can defeat opponents who are in their twenties - forties.
What do you think of that idea?
Helivz 3 years ago
ROIDS GRACIE
facebreaker82 3 years ago 3
Good one! But the new sport is called: "Juice Jitsu."
Helivz 3 years ago
The new sport is called : "Juice Jitsu" to anyone who is a grappler and uses steroids, not just a Gracie. I give him the benefit of the doubt, but time will eventually tell.
Helivz 3 years ago
Royce knew the only way for him to bring pride back to his family and beat Sakuraba(The Gracie Hunter) is to use STEROID to make himself stronger, i undertand that Royce's fan like to make excuses for him but u have to understand that Sakuraba is almost the same age as Royce when they fought last year,a cheater will always be a cheater
Sunthie 3 years ago 3
This is dissapointing, but u gotta remember the guy is 40+, so to prform like he did back when he was 26 he though he needed the extra enhancements. . well, maybe he will learn 4rom this mistake and not do it again. . . but dont think just cuz of him all gracies like that, cuz they not. Also, royce is one of the best period, maybe he just lost confidence, but this wont make me stop liking BJJ
betomon17 3 years ago
Everybody has their moment, good or bad so I am sure that he has paid is penance for this. Now we move on and BJJ is still a very good system as well as all other martial arts systems. You are right Royce is on of the best, this transgression takes nothing away from that, bottom line we all have our days. I like combining BJJ with other martial arts systems, makes for one hell of an arsenal!
cowlico 3 years ago
The California State Athletic Commission's Bill Douglas told MMAWeekly, "Currently, our rules do not support overturning a decision based off the drug test results. However, Armando Garcia and I are meeting with the Attorney General next month to begin the process of modifying the existing laws to incorporate those rules for the future. Should everything move along like I anticipate, I would expect to see the changes in place by the end of the year."
Cowmiddy 3 years ago
"On June 14, 2007, the controversy surrounding the match deepened as the California State Athletic Commission revealed that Gracie had tested positive for massive amounts of Nandrolone (ten times the possible natural occurrence of the chemical even at the highest level of athletic training), an anabolic steroid.The Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu master was fined $2,500 (the maximum penalty the Commission can impose) and suspended for the remainder of his license, which ends on May 30, 2008."
Cowmiddy 3 years ago
no matter what royce gracie always will be a living mma legend
chainsawvenom 3 years ago
good video honest man!!! still i lost respect for the gracies it shows that they are willing to play dirty in order to win. theres renzo vs frank hahahah what a clown/faker and of course "ROIDS GRACIE" vs sakuraba
MALDITTOROKKERO 3 years ago
Good man Royce, the guy is still and always will be an important sporting icon of our time... The journey trvelled is always more important than the destination IMO.
People make bad judgements. Not making bad judgements makes us un-human.
You gotta admit it's Royce's BRAIN in his fights that wins anyway.
albrid 3 years ago
Royce has to use punch and kick into his new mma. That just proves that his bjj isnt as perfect as all you sheep thaught it was. Hmmmmm. You all got tea baged in tha mouth!!!
sensiemike 4 years ago
No disrespect to Royce, but one of the very first men he fought...... really wasn't that good. It's almost the analogy of a "BIG FISH in a small pond." I'd like to see Royce go up against well known boxers, like Mike Tyson, for example.
Helivz 4 years ago
Royce was getting older and he was just trying to keep up with many of the others.
dforce27 4 years ago 4
royce uses steroids?it maybe.and the other guys?fedor,crocop,kimbo,bas rutten and the list goes on to infinite.what do you think about them?? are they natural???? and about others sports like cycling,athletic,power lifting, body buildng,running ...etc.. whath do you think??? it's about alls high level sports!!!no one excluded.right or wrong this is the truth,you like it or not!one guy must not pays for all the others!!! ...meditate people ...meditate
zenspirit111 4 years ago
royces still rules.
ries5 4 years ago
THE GRACIES haven't been impressive. Poeple caught on with the gracies' style, and sadly the gracies are still behind in stand up. Royce should retire to save the Gracies' face
endlessace 4 years ago
Royce Gracie Suspended, Fined For Steroids
By David A. Avila
Yet another MMA fighter has tested positive for steroids and this time it's legendary Royce Gracie.
The California State Athletic Commission released information Tuesday at 5:35 p.m. from tests results that showed Gracie's two samples revealed traces of nandrolone metabolite.
The Brazilian jujitsu master is suspended for the remainer of his license that ends on May 30, 2008. Gracie has been fined $2,500....
criptovicto 4 years ago
Royce and Chris Benoit used to party together like the Fools they are/were !!
Steroids kill !!
HAYABUSATOM69 4 years ago
Royce is a skinny ass Punk who ruined his name , the gracie name and BJJ because he needed illegal drugs !! - he is a nobody !!
90% of UFC fighters would woop his skinny azz anytime
HAYABUSATOM69 4 years ago
I first saw Royces fighting exploits on video in early 1996. Do you think he was using steroids then? Or is this a recent practice? Come to think of it, when I watch Royce beat men much bigger / stronger than him way back when, it did seem unusual. Perhaps he is a big fish in a small pond, or perhaps he was using in the 1990s? You tell me.
Helivz 4 years ago
Royce is a Wimp -Always has been !!
HAYABUSATOM69 4 years ago
A wimp that can still at 40plus wipe the floor w. you and your mama, lol
aggiedavis 4 years ago
GRACIE IS STEROIDS!!!
criptovicto 4 years ago
Dumb jealous shithead!
aggiedavis 4 years ago
ROYCE GRACIE IS USED STEROIDS!!!!!!!
criptovicto 4 years ago
Jealous dumb fuck!
aggiedavis 4 years ago
Juice Jit-su!
Helivz 3 years ago
Perhaps an enemy of Royce "secretly" spiked his food, drink and intake with steroids. Royce did not know it, and when he stepped into the ring and was tested later, he tested positive.
Lowkama 4 years ago
Crippledvicto! Merry Christmas from BJJ !!!
aggiedavis 4 years ago
aggiedavis! Merry Christmas from TUDO VALE!!! Merry Christmas WITH NO STEROIDS!!!
criptovicto 4 years ago
Better to use steroids than Viagra,like you, crippledvicto
aggiedavis 4 years ago
I never use viagra or drugs!!!
ROYCE GRACIE IS USED STEROIDS!!!
BJJ ISED STEROIDS!!!
MERRY STEROIDS FOR ROYCE!!!!
criptovicto 4 years ago
I never use viagra or drugs!!!
ROYCE GRACIE IS USED STEROIDS!!!
BJJ ISED STEROIDS!!!
MERRY STEROIDS FOR ROYCE!!!!
criptovicto 4 years ago
Gracie is a Legend.
ferrarigallardogt 4 years ago
Royce Gracie is a excellent fighter. He is easily one of the best fighters of all time. He was one of the best fighters for a significant amount of time. He was one of the big factors in helping U.F.C. grow so fast.
ferrarigallardogt 4 years ago
There sure are a lot of Gracies.
parlay420 4 years ago
alright guys the question is not who has the best martial art, the obvious answer is that an amalgamation of all of the best moves and techniques (a.k.a. a rounded game) makes the best, most consistent fighters in the world. Unfortunately people get caught up in organizational arrogance forget that any martial art (excluding in my opinion the mma) is about bettering oneself, not about being better than others.
jiujitsuphd 4 years ago
That comment was deadon! Very well put..
jzieziula 4 years ago
Gracie Jiu-Jitsu is a very good style for MMA. And you dont need to be allround to be good. Watch Dean Lister, 100% grappler 9-5 records all losses are due to decisions.
Melvin Manhoef is a 100% muay thai fighter and he is top5 LHW in the world.
MMAProfessor 4 years ago
What is this dude talking about Royce distancing himself. If u look at the Post fight interview, He is there with is father and family. Learn to speak to the media homie.
Royce gracie the BEST EVER!!!
IceOmetric 4 years ago
Royce is not, nor will he ever be, the BEST EVER!!!
CountofMonteCristo88 4 years ago
You keep postings comments against the Gracies. Don't you have a life, loser?
aggiedavis 4 years ago
The Gracies are superior fighters. They grew up in a very tough environment. It's just that I don't know how this one Japanese fighter beat them. Japanese culture is diametrically opposed to Brazil.
Grapplers are better at their art than all the strikers are at theirs.
Helivz 4 years ago
Helivz the reason Sakuraba could defeat the the Gracies is because he is very good at striking and grappling. Sakuraba had an answer to anything the Gracies could throw at him when it came to ground fighting and then easily out strike them. MMA is more than one martial art..I dont know what your talking about with culture it has nothing to do with the fact that gracies are half rate mma fighters..
gutierjm 4 years ago
i really think u should show more respect for the gracies who created mma in the first place. the gracies created the ufc and made mma what it is today. without royce there would be no rampage or sakuraba or liddell for that matter. u dont know what your talking about so shut up.
obie8o5 4 years ago
alright obie maybe ur just a dumbass or something but ur appartnely not getting it..maybe u should open ur eyes ..yes the gracies help create mma and the whole world is greatful BUT they are very stubborn on their particular art that they dont train others very well n therefore have bad habits as mma fighters..they often get shut down by good fighters that train other arts like muay thai, boxing wrestling ect..lying on ur back and refusing stand up makes them poor fighters, case closed idiot
gutierjm 4 years ago
i really think U should show respect for the fella at the turn of the century who showed the Gracies the art of grappling; Mr. Maeda. He passed on ancient teachings, and the Gracies modified it to accomodate smaller and weaker opponents. Without Maeda , there would be no "Great Gracie Name" in mma and ufc fighting, PERIOD.
Helivz 4 years ago
check your facts, man. Royce's father created Gracie jiu jitsu, wich is the style Royce is using. Gracie IS the reason MMA is the way it is today. Theres no argue on that.
and qutierjm: watch the early UFC, muay thai, and this other sh*t ur talking about doesn't stand a chance against Gracie jiu jitsu.. NOW its case closed mthrfooker...
mthrfooker 4 years ago
Royces father learned the art from Maeda, and Helio modified it to fit his physical frame.
The strikers are not nearly as good in their striking abilities as the grapplers are in grappling. Those "strikers" in ufc/mma are not the real thing. Mas Oyama was the real thing and so was the late Bruce Lee.
Not that I'm slamming the grappling style, but if the truth be known, they are BIG FISH in a small pond.
Helivz 4 years ago
I had an instructor who could take on three, four and five BIG men, simultaneously. Wonder why he doesn't enter U.F.C. and MMA?
His philosophy is: "The best fighter is not one who can win one hundred out of one hundred fights, but one who can AVOID one hundred out of one hundred fights."
It takes a BIGGER man to walk away from conflict, and not try to prove and impress people.
My instructor has no need to impress people. He is secure in himself. He trained from the hard school.
Helivz 4 years ago
Good points Helivz.
SchmokinJoe 4 years ago
sounds like you do that choreographed bullshit were the instructor beats people up using his "chi" or some magic nonsense. not very many people can win a fight against five opponents unless it's choreagraphed. convieniently people from bullshit martial arts never compete in MMA because they "don't need to impress people" but they are the first to take on five people (students of coarse) in a fight to show what badasses they are. all bark and no bite.
TextAndViolence 4 years ago 2
I know of one black foreigner who took on three bikers and two bouncers, simultaneously and won!! He of course, had striking skills that were astounding. He laid them all out flat, in short order. He has never competed in MMA /UFC. So what? Just because MMA / UFC has never pitted one excellent striker against multiple opponents doesn't mean these kinds of fighters don't exist.
Helivz 4 years ago
any martial artist is going to have more advantage to any soft average Joe on the street that has never exercised or trained. You're probably referring to this guy. Look this video up..."Kiai Master Ryukerin vs MMA fighter for $5k." Peace.
thebabemagnet 3 years ago
This guy took on three hells angels and two bouncers at one time. I guess those five opponents must be soft, average Joes.
Helivz 3 years ago
Its been said that 95% of fights end up on the ground, which leaves that 5% exception to the rule. I've seen my instructor perform striking skills. He has entered kumite where, within seconds, he struck another black belts solar plexus, and had him gasping for air. This is what I'm talking about. Unlike MMA/UFC strikers, my instructor is alot faster, pinpoint accurate, can deliver with devastating results, and has mastered timing / distance dynamics. He isn't arrogant and cocky either.
Helivz 4 years ago
Just because some martial artists have never been in the Octagon DOES NOT make them "all bark and no bite," and just because many artists do enter the Octagon DOES NOT necessarily make them the best in the world.
Mas Oyama for one, came from a different time period, and so did the late Bruce Lee. Both had lethal striking skills; lightning quick, pinpoint accurate, and they delivered with devastating impact. We're talking broken bones, on the first hit too.
Helivz 3 years ago
Helivz, u speak da truth dude. I agree with ya.
DJFistOfCurry 3 years ago
Hi there. In regards to what post?
Helivz 3 years ago
obie.. yes respect should be shown to fighters and teachers. However, to claim that "the gracies created the UFC and made MMA" is ridiculous. Just because Royce won the first couple UFC tournaments doesn't mean he created MMA or made the UFC as popular today. Royce was NOT an MMA fighter.. he was a BJJ fighter. In the early days of cage fighting, MMA was still in it's infancy. Most guys specialized in one form (or were scrappers with no training).The UFC became popular long after Gracie's wins.
SchmokinJoe 4 years ago
Hi. Ever hear of May Oyama? He was an exceptional striker, unlike those we see today. Mas Oyama and his buddy were jumped by seven thugs, and they literally kicked their butts. These seven thugs were armed too! Mas and his martial arts buddy literally obliterated them, SIMULTANEOUSLY. Mas Oyama was a true striker and would put other MMA/UFC strikers to utter shame. His aim was accurate, his delivery quick and devastating. One hit, broken ribs, one strike, broken collarbone.
Thats the realthing
Helivz 4 years ago