Georgian State Dance Company - Svanuri - LUSHNU LISBVI ! Iva suxari misgu lishvan !

[uluatilla]

some figurs near north kavkazs apswa.

[uluatilla]

some figurs as abhazs apswa.

[tbilisigiorgi]

svanetis tamadobit sruliad saqartvelos gaumardjos!

[marhomist]

Fantastic! and Awesome!

[666666sat]

veve mushvan

[leonardoioseliani]

svanets da svanebs gaumarjos

[leonardoioseliani]

svanets da svanebs gaumarjos

[leonardoioseliani]

svanets da svanebs gaumarjos

[GeoTaoKlarjetMoschoi]

Svan is GEorgian and 100 % of svans in Georgia say they are GEorgian there are few provocateurs here son of a bitch Russian tatars

[GeoTaoKlarjetMoschoi]

is mikvirs ak kartvelebi ro gismenen da arapers ar geubnebian etkoba vinme normaluri ar shemodis ak ro dagsvas trakze da blataob ara internetshi she kleo ra getkoba shen kartvelis she kleo

[GeoTaoKlarjetMoschoi]

watch?v=3M9KO5tgn7A kargad mousmine es jishi xar shen xar vigatsa tatari kle vints kartuli istavla mogitkan dedis muteli

[GeoTaoKlarjetMoschoi]

luka kle xar sheni dedas shevetsi svani aris kartveli da ventasvale kvela kartvels sakartveloshi svans ro utxra ar xar kartvelio gagitexavs tavs shenaeir kleeebis dedas shevetsi shendatavad vints es sakartveloshi ar ilaparakos kartvelebze rasats ak laparakob imis dedas shevetsi me

[losdruid]

raari bicho pantazia luka to, sakartveloshi svanuri da megruli ro ikargeba egec pantaziaaa?! Svanuri ena udevs sapudzvlad mtel kartul enas da kartuli enis pudze da pesvia svanuri. Svanur enaze saubrobdnen mteli kartveloba tavis droze da mteli sakartvelos jishi da jilagia svanoba amitom unda iscavlos titoeulma kartvelma svanuri dzmao. Aseve megrulic unda iscavlos sukvelam. Tu ki skolashi ascavles orive ena sul ramodenime celicadshi daikhsni svanursac da megrulsac gadashenebisgan da dakargvisgan

[losdruid]

chemtvis skolashi kartultan ertad rom escavlebinat svanuri an megruli sul ar momicevda dges ese cvaleba rom svanuri enis codna agmedgina. carmoidgine ert taobas skolashi eseigi daakhloebit at celshi ascavli svanurs rac nishnavs sul cota 500 000 bavshvs ecodineba svanuri 10 celicadshi meti raga khsna ginda gadashenebisgan dzmao, aba 70 da 80 clis svans an rachvels vinc ar icis svanuri ekhla khelakhla vegar ascavli dzmao da shen egec dzaan kargad ici.

[losdruid]

lol mushwan1ttan dalaparakebulic mak da magis imeilica mak tu gainteresebs :D kai kacia dzaan da svanobs kidevac da kartvelobs kidevac. Imisgan me ar momismenia ertkhel mainc svani kartveli araao shen tu egre magari urtiertoba gakvs mag kactand da eset pativs scem shenratom igoneb eset pantaziebs dzmisgulo. Lecxune svanurad dakepvas dakopas an danacevrebas nishnavs ramis. da svanuri ena marto rachvelma da svanma ki ara kvela kartvelma unda vicodet rogorc megruli unda vicodet da kartuli iseve es

[losdruid]

chven ar gadavjishebulvart dzmao chven mudmvad rachvelebi vikavit da ara svanebi.. nu aurev ertmanetshi. ubralod sukvelas ertad gverkva adre svanebi magram im svanebshi ikvnen rachuli tomebi rogoric iko dvalebi qudetebi kheburebi da rachanebi. Rogorc dgesaa sakartveloshi kakhelebi megrelebi SVANEBI RACHVELEBI da ase shemdeg. kholo ena rom svanuri iko eg paktia da ekhla dzmobilo marto rachashi ki ara 70 procent svanebs agar akhsovt ena. Me rachveli var ase tu ise vici svanuri mara vscavlob ekhla

[losdruid]

da mesamec erti svanebs igive nairi saerto akvt chrdiloelebtan rogorc mtel kartvelobas. ise meti ra kavshiri akvt me shen getkvi svanurad laparakoben tu svanoben vinme. ubralot erti jishi vart sukvela da bunebrivia tradiciebic migvigavs.rac sheekheba abkhazebze kubis mdinaremde tavis droze sul svaneti iko da abkhazetis mtebshi ki mudmivad svanebi ckhovrobdnen da araa gasakviri tu saerto akvt svanebs da mezoblad ckhovroben svanebtan. Abkhazebi rogor c rasa tvin areuli svanebi arian chemtvis.

[losdruid]

da rashuashia kakheli ro getkvis shen rasisti ar unda gakhde. Rac kakhelebs vajkacoba da gmirobaakvt naketebi eris dasacavad rachvelebs da svanebs goni ertad aragvak orives. raskvia sheurackopad to. ra shen ra svanebi ucodvelebi ggonia? Cagerashi svanebi ar ikvnen abkhazebs rom atarebdnen da dgeshi su cota 2 trupi ro iko tamishshi magis gulize. mere moutknes imatac deda abkhazebma da chemovidnen ekhla mogvecit iaragi da chven vicito, bidzachemi tamishshi im nabozvrebis gulize mokvda

[losdruid]

da megreli ki ar edzakhis svanebs shoanes aramed berdznebma daarkves svanebs shoaneebi da imis mere shemorcha praza merulshi. da chven kartlelebi ki ara kartvelebi vart. nu urev ertmanetshi, chven sukvelas kartveli imitom gvkvia rom khosroidebis dinastia romlebic mere bagrationebi gakhdnen ikvnen kartlshi. amitom dagverkva kartvelebi sukvelas. svanebi (mashin racha svaneti erti iko) megrelebi gurulebi da lazebi kvelani kolkhebi vikavit mere iberielebi da mere kartvelebi

[losdruid]

ara marto samkhret oseti aramed chrdilo osetis naris kheobac sadac Dvali rachvelebi ckhovrobdnen bolshevikebis revoluciisdros miachukes upros dzmas. egec sakartvelo iko da dges chrdilo osebi amakoben naris udzvelesi dasakhlebebita da kulturit

[losdruid]

ee dzmisgulo tu egrea rachashi me-16 saukunemde svnurad kaparakobdnen zemot da kvemot orive mkhereshi mragram ra eg imas nishnavs rom rachvelebi kartvelebi ar arian? tu gainteresebs vici svanuri (kargad ara magram mesmis). babuachemi rachveli iko magram imanac icoda svanuri ra mere eseigi rachvelebi agar vart da svanebi vart tu rogoraa erti mitkhari jigrulad.

[losdruid]

luka shen luka guidos akhlobeli khom ar khar dzmisgulo shemdegit erti mitkhari :D

[losdruid]

luka ras achmakheb dzmisgulo :D dedachemi svania mamachemi rachveli mamachemis da babuachemis garda sukvela svani mkavs ojakhshi da vin tkva ro kartveli aravar. Moeshvit ra am pilosoposobas, ras cdilobt ver gamigia to. Svani isetive kartvelia rogoric rachveli da khevsuri.

[irakliauf]

itsotskhle dzmobilo..? dae simartle tan gkhvebodes da egre ar ivitskhebde arts she da arts sheni shtamomavloba tu vin khart da ra aat tsebes unda gakhvet...

[irakliauf]

aralogikurad msjelob luka. ena da misi sitkhvata mnishvneloba khshirad qmnis konpliqtebs dzmobilo. apkazur enashi bevr skhva da skhva mtsenares erti da igive sakheli qvia magram eg imas khom ar nishnavs rom isini ar ganskhvavdebian? egrevea Qartvelits, da chvens Kolkhur-Iberiul naerts udris da iqmneba rogors Eri! ersa da khalkhs shoris didi ganskhvavebaa dzmobil. svani da megrel eri arasdros iqneba radganats isini thithoeul ethnikur jgups tsarmoadgenen. magram eri ukve khalkhta ertobas nishnavs.

[irakliauf]

Sitkhva qartveli saqartvelos istoriashi moikhsenieba chveni eris gaertianebis shemdeg da zustad nishnavs samkhret kavkasieli qristianebis ertobas simartle tu ginda. da rats shekheba qartvelebs da qartlelebs ertmanetshi nu vurevt. arts ert istoriul tskharoshi mkholod qartleli ar moipoveba mokhseniebul qartvelad. mat edzakhdnen iberielebs da chven kide dasavltshi jer kolkhebs da semdeg egriselebs. aba svanursa da qartlurshi saerto araperia? Dedopalsa da Jars rogor ambob svanurad dzma genatsvals?

[irakliauf]

Magram paqti paqtia... megrelebsa da svanebs iseve rogorts svanebs da apkhazebs tavianti aravin ar unda daukargos!!!! eg Mteli saqartvelos valia!!!!!!!! Iberielta, Svanta, Megrelta, Lazta da Apkhazta ertoba daushleli da sheubghalavi unda ikhos! tsaltsalke gadavshendebit!!!!!!! iseve rogorts azerbaijanlebis da chrdilokavkasieli khalkhebi gadajishdnen da zogiertma sakutari enats ki ar itsis! Genatsvalet Svanebs, Iberielt, Lazt, Apkhazt da chems Megrelebs!!

[irakliauf]

Tskheulimts ikhos khoveli vints Saqartvelos Qartvelta ertobis danatsevreba, ganadgureba, daglejva, gadasheneba da damoneba gadatskhvitos!!!!!!!!! AMIN!!!! Me var tsarmoshvebit Megreli da vekutvni qartvel Ers!!!

[chutxaro]

me var rachveli.. da chemtvis sul ertia.. saqartvelos saxeli iqneba kolxeti, egrisi, iberia tu saqartvelo..

tu ginda lentexi daarqvi.. radgane s yvelaFeri chemia.. da chvenia..

svanebs aravina tyuebs.. ra aris aq mosatyuebeli?.. erti xalxi vart da es tavadac kargad ician.. uamravi mencieria svani da megrelic.. da mshvenivrad ician rom chven erti xalxi vart..

[chutxaro]

romel separatizmze melaparakebi?..

meotxe saukunis eklesiebia svanetshi qartuli..

tamar meFe svanetshi da rachashi izrdeboda..

chven rom erti eri vart amas laparaki da mtkiceba rad unda..

mxolod rusebisgan da aFxazebisgan msmenia sapirispiro.. radgan imat acyobt egre..

tu zma xar.. am dgeeneratobebis laparaks sheeshvi raa.. tan shen mets araFers laparakob..

[chutxaro]

me svani ar var da amitom ar vici svanuri..

shen amtkiceb rom ena tu gansxvavebulia genetikac gansxvavebuliavo.. es ase ar aris..

dgesdgeobit shemorchenilia 4 qartuli romi megrelebi, svanebi, lazebi da qartebi..

am xalxs tavianti enebi aqvt.. da es enebi monatesave enebia es mecniarulad damtkicebulia..

qartuli dominanti mxolod imitomaa am enebidan.. rom qartebi gaxdnen mravalricxovani uFro. rogorc msoFlioshi inglisuria gavrcelebuli magitom..

[chutxaro]

iyo dro roca qartebi ar iyvnen dominantebi.. da iyvnen megrelebi.. mashin megruli ena iyo dominanti..

eseni etnikurad erti xalxia da amas cyali ar gauva!!..

20 celze emti 1 saxelmciFoshi vcxovrobt.. romlis saxeli iyo xan egrisi.. xan kolxeti.. xan iberia da xan saqartvelo..

megrelic da svanic rom qartuli subetnosebia amaze davac ar girs..

[chutxaro]

''qartuli ideologia'' es rusebis mogonilia.. rusets rom saqarvelos dashla unda amashi axali araFeria.. da cdilobs qartveli xalxi ertmanets daupirispiros..

magram erts getyvi..

saqartveloshi iscavleba.. megruli enac.. svanuric da lazuric.. radgan es enebi aris uzvelesi.. da ar gadashendes!!..

1 qveyanashi roca 3-4 enaa.. aqedan oFicialuri ena ver iqneba suyvela.. unda iyos 1 ena oFicialuri.. da ase moxda.. am etapze qartulia oFicialuri..

[chutxaro]

shen isev shensas acvebi magram ver mimtkiceb..

shen meubnebi svanebi gansxvavdebian danarcheni qartvelebisgano.. magram isic ki ar ici riti.. ena rom sxva aqvt es aris Faqti.. magram ceschveulebebi aris identuri.. ginda es iyos qorcilis ceremoniali da ginda iyos Faseulobebi..

[chutxaro]

iberiuli kultura ras nishnavs?.. me rom meubnebi nascavli ar xaro.. shen nascavli xar?.. saqartvelos yvela kutxis xalxi gansxvavdeba ertmanetisgan ragacit.. chemi kutxe svanets esazgvreba.. magram ar gvaqvs svanebtan imdeni saerto rac xevsurebs..

khevsurebs, svanebs da mtiulebs aqvt analogiuri locvis kultura shemorchenili.. rac danarchen qartvelebshi ar aris..

da qartul ideologias ras ezaxi kubos rom dgam?.. ici rom qartuli ideologia saertd ar arsebobs?..

[chutxaro]

saertod ra ici iberiis da kolxetis shesaxeb?.. an egrisis?..

da tu chemze ganatlebulad tvli tavs qartul etnosshi.. zalian mainteresebs saqartvelos kutxeebis xalxebis etnikurad dayoFa sheneuli versiit..

tu amdeni agar gascavles?..

[chutxaro]

ena ertia da erovneba meore.. gansxvavebuli ena sulac ar nishnavs rom sxva eria.. Farnavaz meFis dros egrisis sameFo da Iberiis sameFo gaertianda usisxlod.. tanabari dzalis sameFoebi usisxlod ratom gaertiandenn?.. imitom rom icodnen rom erti xalxi iyvnen..

rac sheexeba kulturas.. xevsuruli kultura da svanuri igivea.. miuxedavad imisa rom ar esazgvreba es regionebi ertmanets..

kultura dda tradiciebi ertia.. megruli kultura naklebad gavs svanurs..

da sisuleles rom amtkiceb ver xvdebi?

[chutxaro]

ra gvari xar tu svani xar iqneb dacero egec?..

da rusul propagandas ratom avrceleb egec miayole barem..

[chutxaro]

LukaGuido

''Georgia'' isn't name oF people.. this is name oF land.. west and east Saqartvelo..

called Georgia by greeks on soil and not people..

Georgian tribes are.. Svans, Lazs, mingrelians, Moschis, Khevsurs, Qarts.. <------- all this nations called ''Georgians''

and do you interested why called this Georgian tribes our land ''Saqartvelo''?..

and what nation are u?..

[MUSHWAN1]

first--i am swan

second --i am swan

swan and only swannnnnnnnnnnn

[dwbush777]

I can tell you are proud to be Svan. :-)

[LukaGuido]

iva suxari muxbe !

[MUSHWAN1]

gerbet chotmazer mäg shüanär

[LukaGuido]

AMIN ! xochamd duxari muxbe !

[MUSHWAN1]

chigär shüanär

[LukaGuido]

don't make a mistake this is NOT GEORIGAN DANCE THIS IS FOLK DANCE OF THE SVAN PEOPLE ! or how we svans call it LUSHNU LISBVI ! Iva suxari misgu lishvan !

[dwbush777]

Yes, I know that this is a dance of the Svan people. I think it is a Georgian tribute and honor to the Svan people. Don't you think so? I hope you will believe it. Georgians are not your "fascist" enemy. They are your brothers. I hope that you can love them and their culture as much as you love your own Svan culture, language, etc. Can you do this?

[LukaGuido]

yes of course i want to this but it must come from two sides and like it looks like now Georgians don't show this respect troughs the Svan People

I respect Georgians as my cousin people and that we are related and that we are South Caucasion people

[dwbush777]

Luka, you are Georgian. You live or come from the Svaneti region of Georgia. How could your Georgian neighbors from other Georgian regions have anything against you? To borrow my friend's Tornike's analogy, that is like me living in New York hating people who live in Arizona. Do you see what I am saying? You are forgetting that you may come from the Svan region but you are still Georgian. That is good.

[LukaGuido]

my ethnicty is Svan not Georgian. Georgians are a other people. People from lets say South Holland and North Holland are the same. But Svans are whole lot different from Georgians and Thanks to Georgian Ideology they want to Crush this Difference's and turn us all Georgian. you should some research about Georgians and svans. i think you friend Tornike learn Georgian history thats a whole lot different then Europes History of Georgia

.

[LukaGuido]

there are 4 people in South Caucasus or lets say 4 People who live in Georgia. The Zhans (Lazians,Megrelians) Svans and Kartveli or Georigans

Laz speak Laz languege and is not

Svans Speak Svan Languege

Megrels Speak Megrel Languege

Georgians Speak Georigan

thees langueges are not intelligible with Georgian. so they are not dialects also our culture and ways of living is a whole lot different

The Caucasus is an other Situation then America.

[LukaGuido]

But today we are all called Georgian or Kartveli this is bad with this Ideology we will lose everything our culture our Language. i mean you cant learn Svan language in School it isn't even recognized as Regional language this is because svans are not accepted as an ethnic group but as Georgians. but we have little to do with them. and if a svans says i am a georgian he will think like one and lose his svan culture. i say we are south caucasion people we are releted but we are not georigan

[LukaGuido]

and to make it clear you shouldn't compare Arizona and New York to the Caucasus. the Caucasus is a whole other situation.

[karakallatore]

You are right about the language. It has to be thought in schools and even university should have a faculty of development and preservation of Svan. It is important part of our culture and has to remain so. The only part I disagree is that I have never seen a Svan who said he wasn't Georgian. You are the first one.

[karakallatore]

Do you consider yourself Georgian or not at all ?

[dwbush777]

Luka, this is for you!

[karakallatore]

Luka dzmao, since when Svans and other Georgians are not same Nation ? I understand svan is a different language and culture from say Kakhetian or Kartlian. But all svans are proud to be Georgian and I have never seen a svan who was not proud to be Georgian. Georgian is not an ethnicity, it's our common name as a Nation. Nation is much bigger then tribe. I am svan too. My ancestors moved to Tbilisi in 19 century, so unfortunately I don't speak svan, and I hope I will learn it someday.