Obama: No Middle Class Tax Increase For Health Care Reform

[jeremy8080]

BTW It looks like Obama is going to cave in and extend the Bush Tax cuts!

LOL Fools

[nohealthcare62]

Tax USA like the French and give us Universal HC and let us live and die with Dignity just like the FRENCH ! I will Never vote OBAMA again ! Not ever not even if you paid me to !

[Champizfast]

For those who hated Bush, can you see this man has essentially doubled down on what Bush did during his tenure? Guantanamo, deficit, 2 wars, et al. I hope to see a day where everyone stops seeing matters from the Left and Right perspective. Meanwhile, the foxes are watching the hen house.

[TrollSturm]

Lying to America's face.

[KingofTownz]

This video is proof that Obama is just another lying scumbag. "no tax on the middle class" Hah!

[rigatony019]

watching him speak before election was great and filled people with hope. watching him speak now gives me shivers

[umk82]

1. obama is a politician

2. all politicians lie

3. how else would we get u fuckers to agree to universal healthcare......

4.duhhh!

[paulheary]

Obama is such a gentleman. He never seems angry or annoyed. I can see why he was a college teacher! He's also handsome ;-)

[ClassicFIHD]

That's becasue lying is so natural for him. Ask him an honest hard question and watch him become Elmer Fudd.

[rigatony019]

wtf?

[TrollSturm]

@paulheary

Yeah, I bet you'd love to suck his dick wouldn't you Paul? White liberal males are all fucking faggots.

[KataVideo]

Obama FTW

[KataVideo]

Obama PWNS li'l george

[lizd04]

KataVideo, you meant Obama lies to George and the whole country while trying to re-define the word "tax" to support his agenda right? I'm sure that's what you meant because you seem fairly smart and a fairly smart person would see that when confronted with what a tax is, as if he didn't already know, Obama's only recourse was to say that Stephanopolous was "stretching" when the only one stretching, bending, manipulating, dare I say, lying, is obama. Obama got pwnd.

[KataVideo]

Prez Obama PWNED li'l george

[JMSTek76]

ssshhhhh.. kindergarten isn't over yet.

[KataVideo]

shhhhh.. conservatards are ignorant

[oldtownkid]

Bush lies and thousands die, Clinton lies and gets a blow job, Obama lies and people get health care coverage.

[WKaliberr]

Tax Fucks

[redwine666]

end the bush tax cuts and the program will be paid for. End the war in Iraq and the program will be paid for. For all the people that complain about taxes. Think about this, we would be driving on dirt roads, have no police or fire departments. I am betting in this day and age if we didn't have these things the Republicans and anti tax people would fight those programs too.

[Zakdayak]

I agree with all. I would add my displeasure at the thought of being forced into buying coverage, whether public or private, as opposed to having it payed for already as part of my taxes (or rich people's taxes).

[themou2008]

so you like more taxes I take it.

[redwine666]

I don't think any one likes paying taxes but the way the right frames this debate is just hateful and not of sound mind. Its as if the right would be just happy if half the country died just so they could have more money and power. Its not very christian like because we all have to give to the collective whole. I saw what you wrote above and you should be ashamed of yourself. During the bush years we have seen the middle class become poor with the largest wealth shift this nation has ever seen.

[hasatum]

These kinds of programs have a way of starting cheap and getting real expensive real quick. Just because it doesn't mean tax increases for middle incomes from the get go has zero effect on what it's going to look like 10 years from now when Washington starts howling that the thing is going broke.

[LeGioNoFZioN]

you LIE !

[iwillspyonyou]

YOU LIE !  Obama IS taking over every sector of the economy.

[AudioGraphics]

YOU LIE!

lol

[jasonsadventure]

you dumb! lol

[rhoadsfanz5150]

By default, doesn't that mean a tax increase for the lower class (in addition to the upper class obviously). So we effectively making the lower class poorer. Here's an idea, tax everyone in the United States the same percentage. It would enable everyone to pay "equally".

[lizd04]

yep, flat tax all the way... as a matter of fact end the IRS and increase the sales tax, this way the more you spend, the more taxes you pay. Guess what? Rich people spend more so you'd still get more revenue from the rich than from the middle class or the poor. Our current tax code isn't about being "fair" it's about subsidizing and wealth redistribution.

[greyflcn]

re: lizd04 Why would a flat tax be good? All it does it shift the tax burden away from the top 1% income earners onto everyone else. greyfalcon. net/ flattax.png greyfalcon. net/ concentrate.png greyfalcon. net/ taxevasion3 _ Furthermore, why should money gained from "gambling" be treated the same as money from service? greyfalcon. net/ teddy Also shouldn't the market exist for the greatest benefit of society? Or is it merely a game to see who dies with the most toys?

[greyflcn]

re: lizd04

That said, if you wanted a flat tax, not just on income taxes, but a flat percentage tax on ALL income/wealth accumulated within a year.

(Indexed for inflation of course)

Then I would be perfectly fine with that.

Since the hyper-rich pay hardly anything in that context.

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[lizd04]

re: greyflcn

I absolutely agree with you. If you want to have a flat income tax, it should be on ALL income. Gambling, whether at a casino or in the stock market, would be treated equally.

I'm not a defender of the rich at all, nor do I believe in giving tax breaks for ANY industry or corporation. I believe in the free-market, and when government subsidies and tax breaks come into the equation, you do not have a free market.

[greyflcn]

re: lizd04

Well considering how much of those low income people who would be getting subsidies would.

A. Either be already paid for by Medicare

B. Be covered by expensive emergency room visits

Those people are going to be covered by public money regardless.

What's more, I don't buy the "It's all black or it's all white" market purist argument either.

Furthermore, if you care more about performance than methods, why can't the congress make a non-profit private insurance company?

[kelsbackonyoutub]

it's not a tax increase, i don't know how to classify a mandate but it's not a tax increase

it's fucking stupid and horrible but it's not a tax increase

[marniespeaks]

Stephanopoulos is creepy

[studio7manga]

And a douchebag.

[marniespeaks]

that captures him more precisely

[savior02]

Obama Bin Lyin!

[studio7manga]

Midless Faux drone!

[thejonoboy]

We should have all the billionaires pay our rent and buy us cars and food too. Shoot, we poor people shouldn't have any bills, that wouldn't be fair!

[WinterHaven]

You can't get something from nothing. This is going to cost trillions, so of course it's going to cost all of us.

[thejonoboy]

Income tax isn't a tax either. Calling the act of making people responsible to pay their share to build roads and pay poor people to do nothing or else face fines or jail isn't a tax - it's a bit of a stretch to use the dictionary to call that a tax! (sarcasm)

[themou2008]

Pass the damn bill already. I totally disagree with it. I think taxes will go up and we'll live under the Gov. But I'm sooooooooo sick and tired of seeing Obama on tv almost every day. Give him what he wants and he'll go away....won't he?

[gan0nsl4y3r]

i love liberals and socialism!! i wouldnt be in college without it!

[studio7manga]

Hear hear.

[CAMARA99]

he seems like he has hurt feelings that his critics say that he is taking over all sectors of the economy. like, dude, didn't you kinda expect that throwing the kitchen sink doesn't stop in the primary with Hilary?

[themou2008]

"my critics say I'm taking over every sector of the economy"- He owns GM, He wants a "public option" that will trickle into the private sector. Sounds like a good start.

[themou2008]

vicariously both Clinton and Obama voted to increase taxes. On march 13, 2008, Congress voted whether or not to extend the Bush tax cuts. While McCain voted to extend them, Clinton and Obama voted to have them expire by 2010

[UltraSWG]

The Bush tax cuts were irresponsible and should not have happened in the first place. Voting to allow them to expire as planned is not a tax increase.

[themou2008]

I'm glad you think they were "irresponsible". It's because of their votes that I get $25 less in my checks because my dad has to pay more in taxes.

You're right. It's not a tax increase from the norm. But now taxes go back up to the norm, which is an increase.

[studio7manga]

So basically you're getting butthurt about the Democrats not supporting favoritism to the rich which was on it's way to bankrupting the country and shrinking the middle class.

Great argument, expect to lose several more elections with that.

[themou2008]

the wealthy are actually getting fewer and fewer in this country because they already pay more than their share of taxes. Why do you think all "big businesses"are leaving the country?

[studio7manga]

That's total bullshit, the wealthiest class has grown it's wealth the most of any other class in this country over the last 3 decades, you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Can't you read the gini index, census or DoL reports?

[themou2008]

okay....you win

[lizd04]

If you weren't such a lemming you'd know that the middle class shrunk by 11% during the Bush years but the upper class grew by - get this - 11%,. Oh my good, the middle class got screwed. How dare those millions of people get rich under George Bush. I'm not a supporter of Bush by the way, just hate to see drones reciting everything the media tells them without looking up the facts.

[KataVideo]

and you think it's the same 11%?

[lizd04]

You do know how percentages work right? whether it was from the middle class or from the lower class, there are more people in the upper class than before. The percentage of people in the middle and lower class got smaller.

[studio7manga]

You've got a problem with factual reality don't you liz? Notice how I actually cite sources and you simply pull statistics out of your ass almost like you're simply regurgitating them. Speaking of drones...

[themou2008]

Okay, you might be right but...who's your source? My source is CNN. Are they proganda now to? I like to quote this source more now because even a hint of FOX people won't listen, although I think SOME of what they say is credible.

[UltraSWG]

Cite your source for the 11% statistic, please.

[russ1951]

@UltraSWG are you just completely stupid due to a congenital condition or do you think stealing from the productive in order to pander to the parasitic is a good thing...

Bush should NOT have only cut taxes he should've started dumping the NANNY STATE PROGRAMS like SS, Medicare, Medicaid, school lunch, and on and on and on...

[frostwolf1]

It would have been more fitting to discuss the flawed idea that is the individual mandate and the ramifications it will have, rather than arguing the semantics of what to classify it as.

[studio7manga]

US news sucks.

[MooseOfReason]

George is right.

If you're having a fine imposed on you for disobeying the individual mandate and not buying health insurance, that fits the definition of tax.

Why'd Obama try to tip-toe around that?

[hoosiermama5357libin]

So are the laws mandating car insurance a tax? What about car seats for infants and children ? Is that a tax? inspection of safety for aircraft, autos, and semis? Are these all bad taxes for the Moose?

[MooseOfReason]

hoosier, Answer George's question. Does that fit Merriam Webster's definition of a tax:

"a charge usually of money imposed by authority on persons or property for public purposes"

[hoosiermama5357libin]

It costs money to purchase car seats and pay for the inspection of all forms of transportation(planes, buses, autos, etc.) so there is a "charge". Are these mandated by "authorities"? Yes. Do they benefit the public? Yes. I guess it is a matter of philisophy on wether it is a "tax".

[MooseOfReason]

Hoosier, So, are there any other words in the dictionary I should disregard?

[themou2008]

He tip-toes around everything being very careful not to offend anybody while not giving direct answer.

[UltraSWG]

Is requiring people to wear seat belts a tax? Is requiring motorcyclists to wear helmets a tax? Is requiring drivers to carry liability insurance a tax? Is requiring parents to educate their children a tax?

[terrence0258]

His critics say he's Adolf Hitler. Anything he does short of being Hitler kind of makes him seem okay.

[onemanarmy34]

very very few critics say he hilter

[zndprophet]

lol "My critics say everything's a tax increase"

Funny, but true.

[mbaguer]

I have grown to really distrust and dislike George S. He is a self serving opportunist masquerading as a journaist. He is not a journalist. we will see him working for FOX in the next 5 years .

[Onepersonsopinion]

Let's see.

If a person now doesn't have health insurance they pay nothing extra in taxes.

If this health bill passes, then a person in the future without health insurance will face financial penalties.

That's not a tax increase? What else can it be?

[karen32862]

Amen. I didnt hear ole george question obama on the dollars decline to historically low values this past week. obama cannot remain a spending/money printing fool. Either the gov drastically cuts spending, or it raises taxes. As we have seen true spending cuts arent on the agenda, so raised taxes it will be. This is just another whopper lie from the one.

[karen32862]

Anyone want to bet? He cannot possibly continue on with his policies without either a drastic cut in spending, or a tax hike for everyone who pays taxes. He is either extremely ignorant about economics, or he is a liar. I'll go with the later.

[greyflcn]

re: Karen32862

Why would it a "tax hike" have to be "for everyone".

Why not simply put the top 1% of income earners back to the exact same tax rate they had 8 years ago?

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Which incidentally, would still be dramatically *lower* than the tax rate under Reagan.

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[PersonalJesus348]

I could paraphrase this as

"Stop being stupid and a pundit! Georgie... I know you went on Fox!"

[onemanarmy34]

why is asking the president hard questions painting him a on the right?

[PersonalJesus348]

yeah looking up "taxes" in the Miriam-Webster dictionary is a hard question...

Forget

"Why did you say we're getting out of Iraq and escalating troop levels?"

Or "Why is the United States heading into Pakistan and Re-Deploying in Afghanistan?!"

And last but not least

"Why aren't you for a Single-Payer system? Especially when the current bills you've endorse do not make it more accessible but mandatory!"

Yeah those aren't hard questions...

[JBeatty17]

The individual mandate is bullshit. As an 18 year-old college student who exercises more than an hour a day, I should NOT be forced to give my money to private corporations. This is why we need single-payer. As someone who doesn't need insurance, I should be covered by the government in case anything ever does happen. But don't make me buy an invisible product. SINGLE PAYER NOW

[squidb8]

Something smells fishy. Obama claims he's streching because he went to find the actual definition of what a tax is?

Sounds like it isn't George who's stretching.

[terrence0258]

If you believe an individual mandate for health care is a tax then maybe you should look up the definition of stretch. If you do look it up, when you get your dictionary you will probably want to know how to spell stretch. Your versions missing a t.

[squidb8]

Well I can only find arguement in one part of your arguement.

Your word Nazi attempt at correcting my spelling was a bit much. Notice, the last line has the correct spelling is displayed.

Stay on topic and try to remain calm. Not everyone is out to get you.

[terrence0258]

You're right man, sorry for being an a**hole. I don't get what you're saying about not everyone is out to get you but that is a pretty douchey responce comment I wrote.

[tra12345iscool]

ron paul called Mexicans a racial slur on his website before the elections took place. im not a Mexican but that is deeply offensive to me. to think he got this close to the greatest position ever.

this was before any of you youtubers knew anything about him. the truth is, you still dont know much about him but you defend him like he was a saint or something.

[ryanruns]

I voted for this guy, but think he's trying to hard to pursued us of something that we all know is going to happen. Since when has any enactment as large as this health care proposal been budget neutral and not affected taxes? The money has to come from somewhere.

[zndprophet]

yeah, it comes from people so wealthy they would never need it anyway-that's where it comes from.

and the GOP will tell you that those billionaires are "you".

why? because they want to get back in power to protect those billionaires.

be mindful of that. don't be a pawn in a political chess game.

[themou2008]

You're partially right. However in '06 the tax revenue from the wealthy was 1.3 trillion. Obama's plan will cost 4 trillion. Taxing the wealthy obviously won't make ends meet.

[thejonoboy]

When the goverment pisses through all the billionaires money, you're next! Unless you are unproductive, then you get free money from the workers. I think the best idea is to become unemployed and live off the billionaires until a Repulican becomes president, Then we can start working again, keep and spend our own money, and start the ecomony back up.

[WinterHaven]

What makes you think a Republican is going to fix things when we had 8 years of it and he neglected the economy completely. I don't think either party is going to work. They both FAIL.

[themou2008]

If you voted for this guy, don't question him. He ran on a liberal agenda. You were warned by Fox News and the WSJ and obviously you ignored it.

The tax revenue from the wealthy won't be enough to cover his plans. He will tax you and I . Please...don't act so surprized.

[zndprophet]

lol Fox News is a propaganda station, not a news station. I don't take ANYTHING they say seriously.

In America, there is no left wing at all, the democrats are the right wing, and the republicans and libertarians are clinically insane.

[thejonoboy]

I think this is ABC news. Why bring up Fox News here?

[themou2008]

I know it's ABC. But now ALL the networks are catching on to what Fox News has been saying for the past year.

[carrierexchange]

Fuck Fox News

[themou2008]

Yeah! I understand. Fox News is propaganda. Just like CNN and John Stossel reporting on ABC is now propaganda. Anything that doesn't agree with the president is "propaganda"

[lizd04]

Let me be clear, this stuff you hear out there where people expose all my lies and double speak, it's all propaganda.

[MyNameIsToasty]

It is possible its coming from tax cuts some where within the system...

[themou2008]

yeah! Medicare and "the wealthy"

[macks3123]

The Money has to come from somewhere. Ask Rockefeller or Kissinger, maybe they KNOW.

[greyflcn]

re: mack3123

What makes you think the middle class has the bulk of the money?

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Sure they do a bulk of the work, however unlike Republican fantasy land, hard work isn't equivalent to compensation.

[BigPurple121]

Anyone who has ever had economics 101 can tell you that you do not have to tax a person directly to tax a person. He is increasing taxes on the middle class

[whoo689]

So does this mean the current version of the bill finally stripped that silly tax increase for those who don't get insured post-signage, or is Obama just flapping his gums like usual?

[goodnoah]

Obama are you taking the shot?

[hawie55]

Omg its so horrible that they repeat fox news word for word.

Fox news all day : Is there too much exposure of President Obama!

Fox news viewer 101: what i'd like to see is less of this *THUG* on t.v lol they are such drones. (its so very sad)

[synch1216]

They complain about his exposure and then complain that he won't come on FauxNews, lol!

[alex3914]

Now he's just coming straight out and lying. Oh wait...he's been doing that.

Grrr...

[sharinganclan213]

i just heard someone yell BULLSHIT really loud.

[integral]

Probly some dummy who watches Fox all the time.

[UnitedConservatives]

How unfortunate for the American people that we have such a president. What I'd like to see is less of him on the news. He's just the biggest example of thuggery, corruption and lies he's brought to the WH and to our lives. I say impeach the thug.

[FixedNewsChannel]

You are nothing but a mouth-piece for the mentally handicapped in this country.

[Stefanthenautilus]

LOL, on what charge of "high crimes and misdemeanors" would you impeach him? Sorry, nobody's given him a blowjob yet (besides Michelle, obv.).

[Innize]

And what, exactly, would you impeach him for? Disagreeing with you? That's why he was elected, dumb ass.

[zidmt]

you're a lil late on this message, Bush left office a while ago

[integral]

yep, just forget about the eight years of hell on earth that was W and parrot the horse shit you get from Fox.

[studio7manga]

Cry more pussy. You lost the election.

[lamouchemorte]

lol, that's fucking funny.

[russ1951]

@studio7manga are you smart enough to feel buyer's remorse yet?

[studio7manga]

@russ1951

What compared to that old fuck and that retard cunt? No. Compared to what Obama's platform actually was? Yeah.

[jeremy8080]

@studio7manga You will lose the next two elections for sure

[studio7manga]

@jeremy8080

And if I do, the country will go even faster down the shitter. Care to take that bet? Bush 2.0 here we come~!

[jeremy8080]

@studio7manga I just want them all fighting so they stop wasting so much dam money! I agree we are screwed no matter who is in office. I just want them to get out of the way

[redwine666]

I'd say your a very uneducated and misinformed person and I feel sorry for you.

Its going to take longer then 8 months to clean up the mess bush and his thugs infected on this nation.

[KataVideo]

Gosh, UnitedConservatards, why ever do you call President Obama a thug? He's extremely polite.. he's highly educated.. he seems genuine in his concerns.. save for a few "uhs", his diction is impeccable and well-thought out..

what personal quality of President Obama compels you to use the word "thug"? what could it be? I just don't get you.

(in other words, you're a filthy racist fuck and I'm inviting you to drive high-speed into the side of a building for the betterment of humankind)

[JMSTek76]

Oh, wow, that was really funny. Just another liberal that has to display their IQ level on a youtube post by name calling. So since we are name calling now because there is a liberal here.... Why don't you take your faggot commie ass out of the country so that real American citizens will not have to pay for your healthcare.

[JMSTek76]

pussy

[KataVideo]

sen. rockefeller says the mayo clinic is endorsing the public option. that's great.  it's also funny because conservatards kept citing the mayo clinic as a reason to oppose the public option. conservatards FAIL.

[asphyxiafeeling]

I know a lot of people are gonna give him shit for it but i think he answered the question pretty well. GL passing legislation Obama!