i think guthrie is the best guitar player ever been, i cant imagne a better guitar player then he is, and guthrie looks so big whoever he plays next to.
you are yourself already. you don't have to jump on any bandwagon. you have an innate skill and perspective, and depth that is your own. you cannot learn any of that, or gain any of that, from being declared "officially" this or that, what group you fall into. you can listen to whatever you want, do whatever you want, hang with whoever you want, without being like whoever you are hanging with. that way, you can see things for yourself. you don't sacrifice all that you are to be accepted
basically rap and skater guys are insincere, and insincerity is what gets you ahead on the social scene. bangers are more sincere, more honest, more straightforward, but they reside in a dark place. they are probably more thoughtful and compassionate, but they do this all residing in a dark cloud. they are loners anyway, more or less, but listening to this dark music intensifies this, it is a cycle that feeds itself. all i am saying is that someone doesn't have to be a particular kind of person
@BodhiSvaha The fact that you took the time to post that much is quite pathetic. Go get a fucking life and quit spamming videos with your incessant bullshit.
skaters are a lot like frat boys, and rap guys are too, but i am talking about real guys, the effortless leaders of their kind, of their school, of their hood, whatever. they are more like cowards, poking at others, and retaliate with 10 of their friends when they are confronted, or called for what they are. bangers are like the lone guy, the most hardcore, more than rap and skater dudes, but they resort to listening to more metal, keeping to themselves. that darkness intensifies
it's not my goal to make you feel bad. i am telling you like it is. take it or leave it. mean skater and rap guys are probably meaner most of the time, but it is the metal guys that are usually the ones that retaliate, in the rare instances where someone does. like the trench coat mafia, goths, punks. they are all in the same group. the underclass of the popular scene. it is the darkness associated with them, that rubs off on them, from listening to and playing that music. people avoid that
i have been through it all. i am not talking from the outside of metal looking in. this is observation and simple fact as a matter of perspective from outside of any particular opinion or viewpoint. seeing it how it is, without being on the inside. you cannot be in midst of something, call yourself a particular type of thing, and still have a clue how being that affects you, how others perceive that decision. choosing to be that makes people see you as that, no matter what else you might be
listening to dark metal has an affect of leaving a dark air about you. people will keep away from you. girls won't talk to you. it's like being a rebel without a cause. smashing windows, being a badass, just because you're "metal", you're "hard". it is retardation. self-retardation. every other option, every other thing you could be, every other kind of music you could listen to, would be better for you. metal is associated with hell. you are in a hellish state. everyone seems against you
metal is the full-on, unfiltered, unhindered darkness with reckless abandon. it curses you at the deepest level. you will be the social outcast, uncomfortable, and everyone else will have such an easier time interacting with anyone else. sure, more popular metal guys stand out, but the most popular, and probably most approachable, will be the rap guys. rap guys and skaters seem more elite, more like a fraternity, and metal guys are like the ones left out. it is just dark karma. that affects you
then you have like snoop's smooth flow, dre's unmatched ease at creating an effortless, inimitable flow, too short's easy, laid back flow, biggie's untouchable command, eazy e's laying the foundation of the real shit, and tupac's place as the reigning king of rap. within all of these, you have some elements of darkness, but it's lighter, pass-offish, indirect, as opposed to the brute violence of listening to dark metal. like a popular kid who can be mean but is never truly evil. just dabbling
rap also has a lot of dark feeling in it, especially gangsta rap. a lot of the greatest music of the past 20 years has been rap and r&b, and even a lot of the lighter gangsta shit still has dark elements to it, if you listen to what they are saying. rap is mostly about the beat, the feel, and the flowing over it. listening to someone with insane flow, like rza, raekwon, meth, ghostface, dirty. wui-tang is the greatest power force in rap, mainly from the lyrical invincibility, and the rza's sound
metal is basically dark music. ac/dc is technically metal, but it's basically been considered hard rock a long time ago. metallica is also light fare. when you look at the names of their albums, and their lyrics, it can be a bit dark, and really is, but it's a very mild form. megadeth is basically a political band. the older classic metal bands like maiden and priest are not even hard rock in some ways, they are so far removed from the modern day. early ozzy is almost classic pop
music is about lifting the soul, giving you a sense of wonderment. having high energy, or the feeling of "power", or great speed that gives you a rush, is all secondary, aside from the whole point of what music is - expressing one's soul. if you say other players are expressing differently, alright, but if they express virtually unlistenable, demeaning, insulting music, there is really nothing to express. others override their playing with bravado and technique, rather than just feeling.
@BodhiSvaha Well, I can kinda understand what you're getting at, but what about those people who get a feeling of "power" or a rush from heavy, angry music? As a musician myself, I've come to learn to respect every kind of music out there, regardless of whether I like it or not. I don't like hip hop music very much, but I have to at least admit that the people who write it are generally good at what they do and I believe the same can be said for any competent musician.
the main thing about metal is the dark feeling it has. that is not good for you. it churns your stomach. the subject matter is like a horror movie. 14 year olds call others sissies if they won't watch it. it's not that i don't like it. metal players are among the most technically skill of all players, but if it is done in a pointless, harsh, dampening context, it is harmful to even listen to, and the people who play this stuff curse themselves, and t a lesser extent, the listeners do too.
@BodhiSvaha this kinda depends on what kind of metal you talk about. I can agree that there are some pretty disgusting bands out there, but there are also bands that´s not. I for one love the rush of listening to a real heavy rythm with some mindblowing guitartechnics, and screaming vocals and i do not consider myself damaged in any way. Actually i´m probably more sane and intellectual than you
the only thing impressive about djing is someone that can scratch, and do tricks with the record, while keeping perfect accuracy with what the needle lands on. that commands high respect, but it's like spinning plates - it's interesting for about a minute or two, then it is old and tiresome. i think all music is about mood. if you can create a mood with electronica, fine, but almost all of what i hear is 90% hype, the same old thing, and 10% music, max. that's why it's written off as a non-genre
the main thing about electronica is a goon dj bobs his head like he's a superstar, when all he's doing is pushing buttons, and "beat matching". anyone that can play any instrument is lights years beyond a dj. they have no talent to speak of. they are like a bartender - they keep the party going - but they think they are the chosen one. of course, they are the center of attention in a bar, but mostly because of the volume the music is played at. i like ambient, etc, but dance music is total crap
i'm through discussing this with you juveniles. there is no sense of deep recognition or connection to what matters, or grasp of any kind in either of you, when it comes to what real feeling and music is, and who the real players are. you listen to and insist on metal being the greatest thing, when it is the worst music there is. it is a waste of time even talking to you. have fun paying with yourselves.
Oh come on... it's just a joke about how awesome Guthrie Govan is. I mean, have a sense of humor. It's the most popular comment on the page, might I add. So it looks like I'm not alone.
one of the coolest things in this song, FOR ME, is that it's called seven, the seventh track of the cd, and also the one where you ca always count to 7, meaning it has a 7/4 or 7/8 beat xD
im only 19 years old. i like the best, like stevie ray, hendrix, clapton. My favorite band is steely dan, haha. but even though, I believe this man is arguably the greatest, most soulful guitar player alive in todays world.
@MassimoPetrucci all of them suck compared to the real jazz players. watch macalpine on live at the astoria. it doesn't matter how fast or clean he can play. he is purely academic next to vai. when vai steps up to take center stage, you have never seen anyone with that command and presence since hendrix. it is spellbinding. only vai and satch stand out from the rock crowd. they take their lead from beck. and he takes his from the absolute greatest of all time - hendrix, mclaughlin and holdsworth
Will everyone please just bow down, all the other musicians you mention that are dead can no longer be counted. To the person who put holdsworth even in the same level with guthrie smokes way to much pot!!This guy has more feal than anyone ALIVE!!!! Ty and ps holdsworth will put you to sleep
@plagueiss jimi - slight return / mclaughlin - when love is far away / holdsworth - the 4.15 bradford executive (you will never hear anyone solo like that in your life) / metheny - long ago child / beck - cause we've ended as lovers 2006 / satriani - always with me, always with you / vai - christmas time is here / henderson - saturn 5 / egberto - video by tatsuyukiito that's 4:02 / paco - video called Paco De Lucia(concert) / benson - the shadow of your smile live '72
well, i take back what i said. he is unbelievable. this isn't one of his best videos. this song is awesome, and he is the first truly outstanding player i have seen in a long time. on first listen, i might have thought different phrasing at some parts would have been better, and he could have accented his bends a bit more (and he does elsewhere), but overall his style is one to take notice of. i am definitely a fan. this guys is awesome ;)
@Kingding6 i felt it was a bit too harsh saying that after seeing his other videos, and it's not fair to rate anyone against the top 5 guitarists of all time. i will say though that speed alone begins to take out the feeling. if you are blessed with speed, you go and do that, it is natural to you, but music starts with feel, and slowly builds. no-one will ever touch mclaughlin and holdsworth because they have that base upon which they built everything else.
@BodhiSvaha I agree to an extent. I think GG is "rushing" at the moment but that will change with age. My personal favorite is Shawn Lane and I think he had everything you could have in a guitarist. He'll always be the best for me
@Kingding6 i'd say he's easily the best technical player, but i would say guthrie has better phrasing. guthrie is already in the realm of being so fast, everything else starts to suffer, and shawn was the ultimate in speed, cleanliness, precision, subtletly, and dexterity. i love personae, and i like time is the enemy, but not much else is really moving. his soloing is a rush, but overall, muscially, he isn't one of the greatest of all time. again, past a certain speed it loses feeling
@Kingding6 if you can play fast, really fast, it gives you a rush. it is awesome, it gives you the thrill of life. that's why it's fun to play fast, but even though the player is getting a rush from it, and the audience too when they're playing fast, when it slows down, it loses its vitality, and there is no real feeling or good phrasing when playing slow. all of the focus is in speed, since it's such a rush, and getting faster, playing harder things fast, etc.
@Kingding6 i think shawn is the same compared to holdsworth as yngwie is to jimi. both of them were inspired by the great player that preceded them, but neither could duplicate that kind of playing, or really get the feel down, like their hero, which is what made their hero stand out most. they were blessed with speed, so they kept playing fast, focusing on that aspect. there's nothing wrong with that, but music is about feeling first. fast players won't have longevity like the greats though...
@Kingding6 mclaughlin seems to have had a more rounded style from the beginning, and polished it up, becoming frighteningly fast and at the same time writing some of the greatest music, and by the late 70s, and especially early 80s, went into the stratosphere. check out david, the 7:47 version off music spoken here. that is the craziest shit ever played on an acoustic. 17+nps, playing the most insane, impossible loops. he is and remains the most threatening guitar player in history. incredible.
@Kingding6 holdsworth played ultra fast to start, 18 and 20+nps, but he would have sort of licks and progressions he would play, tendencies you might say, going back to 1969 with his first recording, igginbottom's. he still had some of that tendency into the late 70s, even though he had recorded some of the greatest solos ever, like on fred and in the dead of night. by the 80s, he had reached the pinnacle of reserve, the purest, freest phrasing of all time. he is light years beyond anyone
@Kingding6 the shanw lane improv video truly is his most insane playing. i know everyone always says it's just a display of speed and technique, but that truly instills fear on an animalistic level, something someone else over there has said about it. it gives you a rush like nothing else. you can hardly believe what you are hearing. but at the end of it, it is more of a benchmark of technicality, speed and cleanliness than a memorable outing. it shocks you into awareness how crazy it is...
@Kingding6 satriani was influenced by hendrix, clapton, page, blackmore, beck, and has mentioned mclaughlin and holdsworth. vai is also influenced by mclaughlin, holdsworth and beck. listen to vai's call it sleep. it's a mclaughlin/beck tribute. vai is amazing. the best all-around player in the world. satriani is the most awesome player in the world. he has the newest, purest style of playing, and the best tone, that's why they call him saint joe. they are the greatest of the newer generation
@BodhiSvaha I agree to a certain extent. I'll always believe Shawn was the finest player to grace the instrument, no matter what. Yes, he is known as a speed freak. But he had more emotion and feeling in his playing than most. Epilogue for Lisa is (imo) one of the most beautiful songs ever composed. When he met Hellborg and got into Indian music he slowed down substantially. Thats when his phrasing came out. Absolute other wordily phrasing. I recommend the paris DVD to see what im talkin about.
@Kingding6 listen to shakti and remember shakti. no comparison. i'm not trying to bash him, but lane is going through the motions. he is kind of off on his own, then goes off on a warp speed lick, then back to a drone. mclaughlin plays with intensity, he plays note for note with zakir's tabla beats, especially on the first 70s albums. he only plays 14-15nps on those 70s records, but sustained, and what he is playing, and the way he interacts with the other players, is astounding.
@Kingding6 mclaughlin invented it. he is the first and still really the only westerner who can play and interact with north and south indian musicians of the highest caliber, and his rhythm and note choices for that kind of playing are unparalleled, even for any of the indian players. he is the centerpiece of the group, but, unquestionably, it is zakir that is the standout. i don't know if anyone has ever achieved the level of playing on any instrument he has.
@Kingding6 lane obviously loved shakti and mclaughlin. he wanted to try it out. he understood indian music, but he didn't feel it. he didn't really feel any kind of music to the deepest level. he missed it. he couldn't feel it, so he got distracted and detoured to speed. that is all there is though, for the most part. he sounds like he's trying to find something, searching for expression through his playing, while others express it. playing is expression. if not, you can't play.
you have no right to say shawn didn't feel indian music. only the person playing the music has the right to say what he feels and there are no exceptions to that ultimate rule.
@Fluffypopcicle it has to do with music in general. art is feeling. if you don't feel something it's not art. it's a display. yes, the player feels whatever they do, but the listener senses it instantly, if there is something there. there is no fooling anyone. it is about depth of soul of the player, and of the listener. he is a phenomenal player, but never really "had it". insisting that shawn is the greatest musician is just refusing to see to what is actually there.
sorry for the late response, but you totally fail. some listener can't feel something, but that doesn't mean something isn't there. some people think bands like decapitated are just noise and don't feel anything, but there is something there and the people who feel it get a massive adrenaline rush. you along with a lot of other people like sunderlanding seriously lack common sense. sunderlanding can't feel anything from guthrie and thinks he is hack. you both fail.
@Fluffypopcicle there is such a thing as more feeling in some kinds of music than others. listen to all the songs listed here and learn something. and learn how to spell your own name if you ever want to be taken seriously.
i am fully aware i spelt my name wrong, i just think it looks better that way and that's not an argument. whether i spell my name right or not you can't ignore facts just because my file name or my "age". something that always shocks me is that most of the retards on youtube are at least 20 years old. there is no such thing as "more feeling" in different types of music, but there is such thing as "different feeling". metal is the most diverse by a longshot though.
@Fluffypopcicle i have had time to listen to all kinds of music, and you are completely mistaken if you think metal is the most diverse. it is the least musical of any genre along with goth and punk, and the only thing less musical, which i call attempted musical imitation, is techno. you are 15. i will give you a break. i used to be a banger. back when metal was good. metallica and megadeth are the best metal bands, and sepultura's arise is awesome. the fact is, metal died 20 years ago.
@Fluffypopcicle there has been no significant innovation in metal, aside from the goons playing ibanez universes and downtuning. that is a laughable innovation. jazz is by far the most innovative. it can and does incorporate any other kind of music, perfectly. calling it fusion is a waste of time. jazz means the best music. the most fresh. new ideas. it is the blues, taken to the furthest reaches of the galaxy, but at its core it is the blues. the second most diverse is rock and pop.
continuing from my last comment: jesus i just realized how many comments you posted. seriously, get a life. you either haven't been listening to the massive amounts of metal there are or you are deaf. compare the metal from yesterday and today and it's completely different. i can't wrap my mind over how fucking retarded you are. im laughing, but im confused and pissed of at the same time. you don't know anything about metal, you have no right to judge it.
@Fluffypopcicle the jazz purists are idiots. any significant innovation, anyone with a new voice, will sound different. if it is improvisation, and the player or singer has good phrashing, it is jazz, the best jazz. to me, only the best players are jazz players. jimi was reaching into it, beck reaches into it, and page just touches it. almost everything else is total crap. world music can be called the jazz of various countries, but black american jazz is by far the greatest music.
@Fluffypopcicle most of the jazz players today are rehashing what has been done in the 60s. they are no more than karaoke players. and people will give you crap if you don't phrase exactly like them, don't do all the same old crap they all do. in that way, they are a lot like shredders. maybe a little more versatile, and have more reserve, but there is nothing truly moving about what they are playing. it is restating something old, that has been done a hundred times already.
@Fluffypopcicle metal now is like jazz was 20 or 30 years ago. coasting on its past achievements. the difference between jazz and metal is that there are always jazz players that are outside of any mould, pushing the boundaries in whatever way they choose, whatever way they happen to be going. metal has no room for improvement. it's the same heavy sound, the same old crap, and it is pathetic to hear it, and the most pathetic thing ever when someone listens to it exclusively.
@Fluffypopcicle most of the good jazz players were around in the 60s. miles davis is the archsage of all music. his is the most haunting playing of all time. look at him in his interviews. look at the depth of his eyes, the profundity of what he is saying. everything else revolves around him. they say jazz died when he did. it pretty much did, with the exception of the people who played with him, and few others. herbie is the greatest pianist of all time. wayne is the greatest saxophonist today.
@Fluffypopcicle aside from these players, almost all of them are guitarists - mclaughlin, metheny, holdsworth. the great drummers, dejohnette, cobham, chambers, (and tony williams and elvin jones), play great on others' albums, but the music doesn't have the same vitality on their own albums. al di meola is a phenomenal composer, but his playing is not in a league with the other players. he is perfect as a tango player. check out "plays piazzolla" and "the infinite desire".
@Fluffypopcicle there are great jazz singers also. nancy wilson, chaka khan, lalah hathaway, natalie cole, jimmy scott, but almost all of these, and almost all of the greats in any genre, have been around for a long time. stevie wonder is a great among the greats. even though jazz has great players, there really aren't that many, in the end, that are endlessly inventive, and have the most moving playing. same goes for any genre. good music exists everywhere, but it's mostly black american music.
@Fluffypopcicle modern r&b and hip-hop is going through what metal went through 20 years ago. it is old and tired. as a whole, and genre is past its prime. some of the top recent music is hip hop and r&b, but mostly in the 90s. it is time for a great upheaval of the old, and a new genre, or new genres, will be born. you get a feeling of indifference and repulsion to it. you've heard it too much, it has lost its edge, it is going nowhere. i guess it needs to do that for something new to be born.
bull shit. there are over 30 different genres of metal and there are still new metal bands and they are hitting success. there are still people around the world who are getting into metal, if anything it's getting more popular. you don't now shit about the metal scene.
@Fluffypopcicle dude. if all you listen to is metal, you are completely clueless about music. the reason i don't listen to metal is because practically every other genre of music is better, is more musical, and will have longevity (i will continue to listen to it forever, unlike music that gives you a "rush" and nothing else). i don't care if there are 50 genres of metal. it's 50 different kinds of noise that barely qualifies as music. in time you will realize this.
lol you truly have no idea what musical talent is if you think almost every other music genre is better. metal gives you more than just a "rush". you can poor more types of emotion in metal than any other music. anger, sorrow, pride, grief, love, happiness etc. you can do it all with metal. all metal sounds different and the only reason you think it's just noise is because you don't. go listen to escent of the arch angel by kamelot and call that just noise. you epicly fail.
continuing: oh, and i listen to all forms of good music, not just metal. classical, jazz, blues, jazz fusion, experiental, new age, rap (good rap), rock, techno etc. i bet you can't even make a metal song. i have enjoyed practically every music genre in existence, but metal has stuck with me the longest because there are more things to do with it and it is the most versatile. i play these genres of music, unlike you who doesn't know shit about metal.
@BodhiSvaha - This argument is a fail - there is NO such thing as a certain kind of music having "more feel" than another... Take punk - personally, I hate it, but there is still feel in some of it. I love jazz, but some of it is mind numbingly boring - with some players merely trying to cope with playing the changes. Your argument reeks of a little kid's intellect - grow up, and lose the ignorance... Oh, and yes, Jimi Hendrix is NOT the best guitar player in the world... even if he WERE alive..
@Fluffypopcicle listen to john on goodbye pork pie hat live. jonas is peaking as john crests over the summit into the heights of ecstasy. i have never seen playing like that from anyone else.
type in zyryab. look at john's playing. even paco is mesmerized. they are the grandmasters of all guitar players. the greatest acoustic duo recording of all time. music of the gods
@Kingding6 he even played with some of the indian players from shakti, and they highly regard him as a player also, but it's more because he takes playing to new heights, the thrill and rush of the speed he's playing at, but it's more organic and real with mclaughlin. natural. it is completely natural because it is his music, and the indian musicians bland in perfectly with him (i would say more he blends in perfectly with them). there really is no discussing that. john is untouchable
@Kingding6 i listened to a few clips. aga of the ladies is a good song. it is an enjoyable listen, and a different side to his playing, with some nice soloing, but if you heard him playing that way with a regular trio, it would sound the same as it always does. there is something missing. allowing the feeling to guide you. it always sounds so calculated, like "oh i'll put the next note here", for the slow playing. then fast warping. he never really let it take him where it might have...
great player, but doesn't have the greatest phrasing, has a terrible vibrato, and no sustain. those are the key elements in feel. he plays with more precision and breathtaking speed than anyone except perhaps lane, and maybe alternate picks faster, but he will never be in the echelon of hendrix, mclaughlin, holdsworth, metheny and beck. fast players place speed first, and sacrifice all other aspects of the music for it. that's just how it goes.
@hira1800 All of the top guitarists are equal as far as skill, its who youd rather listen to that defines choice. I love Govan because hes quirky, spontaneous and original. Of course he can shred like anyone else. But I also love Petrucci because he puts together really great songs, and hes an excellent composer. those are my 2 favorits.
i don't mean to rip on guthrie here, cuz i love his stuff, but he murdered the tapping melody. at one point (2:32) he was hitting the wrong notes and was totally off time and then he just started vamping. regardless, he could still outplay me if he was a quadriplegic
@gtocin87 in this case it's clearly a lighting issue. You can see him turn to try and see what he's doing during the final tapping section. It does look awfully dark at points. Luckily for us he ends the song on one of the most amazing outro solos I've ever heard. Hell even Pete Riley (drummer) looks like he's got tears in his eyes hehe.
lighting has nothing to do with it. Once you've played guitar long enough you don't need to see, you feel. it's instinct. I really wasn't trying to rip on him, it's just little things like that remind me that he is human and makes mistakes like everyone else. BTW i checked out animals as leaders... new favorite band lol
@gtocin87 then why does he look at the fretboard every time he plays that passage? I'm not attacking the fact that you're ripping it' just it seems evident to me that in this clip he clearly has an issue with seeing what he's doing. In other clips of him playing this passage he nails it, even in years previous to this one.
another virtuoso of guitar in this era is Tosin Abisa ( I think thats how to spell it lol) or just type in animals as leaders; very unique, mixture of metal, jazz, its pretty new wave but that guy is amazing.
People don't often mention Guthrie's mastery of bends. 6:09, case in point. That's one bend. One bend.
PostingUnderDuress 20 hours ago
Thank you Joe...
Thank you Steve...
Thank you Yngwie...
Thank you Paul...
Each one of you have done incredible job so far.
But simply this guy is at another level. This is not fair, this is just using a "disproportionate guitar force" against the other guys.
I am speechless...
fitatatita 3 weeks ago 3
Someone should tab the absolutely incredible ending solo.
Kuolleille 1 month ago
I am homeless!. No.I just fucking want to get a top rated comment.That's the only thing i want from my life!
xtronic11 2 months ago 3
I know what happened in a lab in England they mixed the genes of Steve Vai and Eddie Van Halen creating Guthrie. ONLY FEASIBLE EXPLANATION LOL
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ralfyt1ger 5 months ago
that lick at 3:33 is pure insanity
math1st 7 months ago
the end solo is my favourite solo EVER
vheadfacelegs 7 months ago
A diddy called Sevens..
theoak84 7 months ago
he does not play fair with the other kids on the playground.........
matalmike 8 months ago 5
Shame out the screw ups. Still great though.
ChainsawVsGod 8 months ago
fair play to the other guy for keepin up with the G-man in the middle there!
sibleyofalltrades 8 months ago
he.. is.. FUCKIN INSANE
negroacdc 9 months ago
2:35 i love how he just switches it around because hes screwing up a little bit.. but anyways that just shows his amazing creativity. I love it.
guitaristsco 10 months ago 7
@guitaristsco so right... in the end of that lick it was lick "Yes, i screwed up, but watch this...."
Timmonsec 9 months ago
@Timmonsec hah yeah :p just shows how amazing he is!! hes my favourite guitarist by far right now.
guitaristsco 9 months ago
@guitaristsco agreed with you again my friend... and also hes like the coolest and most down to earth person ever...
Timmonsec 9 months ago
did anybody else see the smoke from GG's guitar @3.40
odinsting 11 months ago
6:28
Pure soul....just phenomenal...drummer's face addictive too.
abZorber 1 year ago
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jimslucidity 1 year ago
shit makes my ears come. i mean, i'm making my guitar faces and not even playing.
jimslucidity 1 year ago
i think guthrie is the best guitar player ever been, i cant imagne a better guitar player then he is, and guthrie looks so big whoever he plays next to.
Tzachi076S 1 year ago
Why he didn't like sevens?
6x21 1 year ago
I didnt know this was possible... a fucking piece of art...
Timmonsec 1 year ago 3
the tapping starting at 1:30 makes me believe that anything is possible...
skabby101 1 year ago 5
3:43 nice sound :D
chipsu29 1 year ago 2
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no problem, but i found a mistake, it's actually:
II: bEmaj7 I Dm I bEmaj7 I Dm I bA I Cm7 I bB I bA :II 3x
musicbymax 1 year ago
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musicbymax 1 year ago 4
@musicbymax THANK YOU MAESTRO
Omnichronicles 1 year ago
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@Omnichronicles no problem, but i made a mistake, it's actually:
chords for the part from 6:03 till 7:20:
II: bEmaj7 I Dm I bEmaj7 I Dm I bA I Cm7 I bB I bA :II 3x
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@Omnichronicles
no problem, but i found a mistake, its actually:
II: bEmaj7 I Dm I bEmaj7 I Dm I bA I Cm7 I bB I bA :II 3x
musicbymax 1 year ago
hah, the guy at 7:35 with deep scream, ''WE LOVE YOU GUTHRIE''.
SpicerGovan 1 year ago
he may av lost it at 2:40 but he made it sound amazin.. guthrie is awsome :)
WiLLPS31 1 year ago
@BodhiSvaha ...wow.
GenesisRX 1 year ago
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you are yourself already. you don't have to jump on any bandwagon. you have an innate skill and perspective, and depth that is your own. you cannot learn any of that, or gain any of that, from being declared "officially" this or that, what group you fall into. you can listen to whatever you want, do whatever you want, hang with whoever you want, without being like whoever you are hanging with. that way, you can see things for yourself. you don't sacrifice all that you are to be accepted
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
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basically rap and skater guys are insincere, and insincerity is what gets you ahead on the social scene. bangers are more sincere, more honest, more straightforward, but they reside in a dark place. they are probably more thoughtful and compassionate, but they do this all residing in a dark cloud. they are loners anyway, more or less, but listening to this dark music intensifies this, it is a cycle that feeds itself. all i am saying is that someone doesn't have to be a particular kind of person
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
@BodhiSvaha The fact that you took the time to post that much is quite pathetic. Go get a fucking life and quit spamming videos with your incessant bullshit.
jordaniac89 1 year ago
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skaters are a lot like frat boys, and rap guys are too, but i am talking about real guys, the effortless leaders of their kind, of their school, of their hood, whatever. they are more like cowards, poking at others, and retaliate with 10 of their friends when they are confronted, or called for what they are. bangers are like the lone guy, the most hardcore, more than rap and skater dudes, but they resort to listening to more metal, keeping to themselves. that darkness intensifies
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
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it's not my goal to make you feel bad. i am telling you like it is. take it or leave it. mean skater and rap guys are probably meaner most of the time, but it is the metal guys that are usually the ones that retaliate, in the rare instances where someone does. like the trench coat mafia, goths, punks. they are all in the same group. the underclass of the popular scene. it is the darkness associated with them, that rubs off on them, from listening to and playing that music. people avoid that
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
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i have been through it all. i am not talking from the outside of metal looking in. this is observation and simple fact as a matter of perspective from outside of any particular opinion or viewpoint. seeing it how it is, without being on the inside. you cannot be in midst of something, call yourself a particular type of thing, and still have a clue how being that affects you, how others perceive that decision. choosing to be that makes people see you as that, no matter what else you might be
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
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listening to dark metal has an affect of leaving a dark air about you. people will keep away from you. girls won't talk to you. it's like being a rebel without a cause. smashing windows, being a badass, just because you're "metal", you're "hard". it is retardation. self-retardation. every other option, every other thing you could be, every other kind of music you could listen to, would be better for you. metal is associated with hell. you are in a hellish state. everyone seems against you
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
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metal is the full-on, unfiltered, unhindered darkness with reckless abandon. it curses you at the deepest level. you will be the social outcast, uncomfortable, and everyone else will have such an easier time interacting with anyone else. sure, more popular metal guys stand out, but the most popular, and probably most approachable, will be the rap guys. rap guys and skaters seem more elite, more like a fraternity, and metal guys are like the ones left out. it is just dark karma. that affects you
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
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@BodhiSvaha @BodhiSvaha Dude you are full of shit.
gammypage 1 year ago
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then you have like snoop's smooth flow, dre's unmatched ease at creating an effortless, inimitable flow, too short's easy, laid back flow, biggie's untouchable command, eazy e's laying the foundation of the real shit, and tupac's place as the reigning king of rap. within all of these, you have some elements of darkness, but it's lighter, pass-offish, indirect, as opposed to the brute violence of listening to dark metal. like a popular kid who can be mean but is never truly evil. just dabbling
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
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rap also has a lot of dark feeling in it, especially gangsta rap. a lot of the greatest music of the past 20 years has been rap and r&b, and even a lot of the lighter gangsta shit still has dark elements to it, if you listen to what they are saying. rap is mostly about the beat, the feel, and the flowing over it. listening to someone with insane flow, like rza, raekwon, meth, ghostface, dirty. wui-tang is the greatest power force in rap, mainly from the lyrical invincibility, and the rza's sound
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
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metal is basically dark music. ac/dc is technically metal, but it's basically been considered hard rock a long time ago. metallica is also light fare. when you look at the names of their albums, and their lyrics, it can be a bit dark, and really is, but it's a very mild form. megadeth is basically a political band. the older classic metal bands like maiden and priest are not even hard rock in some ways, they are so far removed from the modern day. early ozzy is almost classic pop
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
Phenomenal phrasing:
(0:55)
(0:57)
(1:04)
(3:00-3:51) FANTASTIC!
(6:26) My Favorite ;(
(6:55-7:07) Jizzed my pants
(7:08-to the end of the video) Ran off to the bathroom to clean off
TheHornet79 1 year ago 12
music is about lifting the soul, giving you a sense of wonderment. having high energy, or the feeling of "power", or great speed that gives you a rush, is all secondary, aside from the whole point of what music is - expressing one's soul. if you say other players are expressing differently, alright, but if they express virtually unlistenable, demeaning, insulting music, there is really nothing to express. others override their playing with bravado and technique, rather than just feeling.
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
@BodhiSvaha Well, I can kinda understand what you're getting at, but what about those people who get a feeling of "power" or a rush from heavy, angry music? As a musician myself, I've come to learn to respect every kind of music out there, regardless of whether I like it or not. I don't like hip hop music very much, but I have to at least admit that the people who write it are generally good at what they do and I believe the same can be said for any competent musician.
DragonFlopp 1 year ago
@BodhiSvaha Certain music is meant to give different emotions. Stop trolling...
TheWhocares233 1 year ago
the main thing about metal is the dark feeling it has. that is not good for you. it churns your stomach. the subject matter is like a horror movie. 14 year olds call others sissies if they won't watch it. it's not that i don't like it. metal players are among the most technically skill of all players, but if it is done in a pointless, harsh, dampening context, it is harmful to even listen to, and the people who play this stuff curse themselves, and t a lesser extent, the listeners do too.
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
@BodhiSvaha this kinda depends on what kind of metal you talk about. I can agree that there are some pretty disgusting bands out there, but there are also bands that´s not. I for one love the rush of listening to a real heavy rythm with some mindblowing guitartechnics, and screaming vocals and i do not consider myself damaged in any way. Actually i´m probably more sane and intellectual than you
GuitarsOfArp 1 year ago
the only thing impressive about djing is someone that can scratch, and do tricks with the record, while keeping perfect accuracy with what the needle lands on. that commands high respect, but it's like spinning plates - it's interesting for about a minute or two, then it is old and tiresome. i think all music is about mood. if you can create a mood with electronica, fine, but almost all of what i hear is 90% hype, the same old thing, and 10% music, max. that's why it's written off as a non-genre
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
the main thing about electronica is a goon dj bobs his head like he's a superstar, when all he's doing is pushing buttons, and "beat matching". anyone that can play any instrument is lights years beyond a dj. they have no talent to speak of. they are like a bartender - they keep the party going - but they think they are the chosen one. of course, they are the center of attention in a bar, but mostly because of the volume the music is played at. i like ambient, etc, but dance music is total crap
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
saying everything is pure opinion is like saying someone made technology and someone else didn't, but they're still equal when it comes to technology.
whocares - i was talking to popcicle. he thinks metal is the ultimate thing there is.
timmonsec - go and read the whole discussion. listen to the songs and players i listed. if you still don't get it, good luck to you.
mozzy - there is no argument. i am talking to buffoons. you just joined the bandwagon.
courtney - you're welcome
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
holy fuck the 7 finger tapping part is so weird and difficult
TheWhocares233 1 year ago
i'm through discussing this with you juveniles. there is no sense of deep recognition or connection to what matters, or grasp of any kind in either of you, when it comes to what real feeling and music is, and who the real players are. you listen to and insist on metal being the greatest thing, when it is the worst music there is. it is a waste of time even talking to you. have fun paying with yourselves.
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
@BodhiSvaha so apparently guthrie govan/shawn lane/allan holdsworth are metal?....Wow hahah you are just insane...
TheWhocares233 1 year ago
Fuck,!!!! Amazing, haha, Nice, very nice.
darktimesilence 1 year ago
jesus
svendiamond 1 year ago
6:30 that.......was beautiful :,(
TheHornet79 1 year ago
How is that drummer not masturbating?
HitlerSongs 1 year ago 42
@HitlerSongs Because he's so insanely good that playing with Guthrie is nothing spectacular to him. He's just playing a show with his mate.
Spudbass 1 year ago
@HitlerSongs what? why would he... thats not even funny.
turnbacktime 1 year ago
@turnbacktime
Oh come on... it's just a joke about how awesome Guthrie Govan is. I mean, have a sense of humor. It's the most popular comment on the page, might I add. So it looks like I'm not alone.
HitlerSongs 1 year ago
@HitlerSongs I am sure he has already blown his wad
zoso0987 1 year ago
@HitlerSongs I am sure he has already blown his wad
zoso0987 1 year ago
@HitlerSongs he is....
synesthesia67 1 year ago
@HitlerSongs lol
Omnichronicles 1 year ago
@HitlerSongs Probably cause he's playing the drums lol
gh0stmasta 9 months ago
@HitlerSongs 2 hands my friend. The third hand is the next evolutionary step for drummers.
DerekBallesty 6 months ago
What a GENIUS!
HitlerSongs 1 year ago
does anybody know why he doesnt sell Erotic Cakes on Amazon?
mastart85 1 year ago
@mastart85 You can buy it from the record label :) (and no, i don't - sorry ^^)
Guitareben 1 year ago
I really like this song's dynamics. I really love the part around 3:00 - 3:30 so tense.
and then at 4:10 it just explodes into 320mph rock. Absolutely great
martinisbutik 1 year ago 20
eargasm anyone? forget what your heard this guy is the word!!!!
plagueiss 1 year ago
one of the coolest things in this song, FOR ME, is that it's called seven, the seventh track of the cd, and also the one where you ca always count to 7, meaning it has a 7/4 or 7/8 beat xD
Dan1loBr 1 year ago
i see and hear some dimebag for some reason....
pinto4646 1 year ago
@pinto4646 the hair and squeals haha
robostomo1 1 year ago
6:28 wow that sounded so heavenly. Never knew that sound would come out of guitar.
TheHornet79 1 year ago
Shawn Lane and Guthrie Govan are at unreachable points.
TheHornet79 1 year ago
im only 19 years old. i like the best, like stevie ray, hendrix, clapton. My favorite band is steely dan, haha. but even though, I believe this man is arguably the greatest, most soulful guitar player alive in todays world.
slither305 1 year ago
ha ha ha he made a mistake! even the gods bleed! :P jaja
ramiropohle 1 year ago
@MassimoPetrucci all of them suck compared to the real jazz players. watch macalpine on live at the astoria. it doesn't matter how fast or clean he can play. he is purely academic next to vai. when vai steps up to take center stage, you have never seen anyone with that command and presence since hendrix. it is spellbinding. only vai and satch stand out from the rock crowd. they take their lead from beck. and he takes his from the absolute greatest of all time - hendrix, mclaughlin and holdsworth
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
@BodhiSvaha add Lane and Govan to your'greatest" list.
Kingding6 1 year ago 5
oh my god listen to the fucking song an enjoy it or get the fuck off the page -.-
SiCnTwiZtiD21 1 year ago
@SiCnTwiZtiD21 lol
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
my favorite lick is at 6:22
so classy for improv. thanks guthrie your the inspiration.
feverlead 1 year ago
Man... I'd love to see Guthrie and Shawn Lane sharing the same stage
Laynewhril 1 year ago
Will everyone please just bow down, all the other musicians you mention that are dead can no longer be counted. To the person who put holdsworth even in the same level with guthrie smokes way to much pot!!This guy has more feal than anyone ALIVE!!!! Ty and ps holdsworth will put you to sleep
plagueiss 1 year ago
@plagueiss jimi - slight return / mclaughlin - when love is far away / holdsworth - the 4.15 bradford executive (you will never hear anyone solo like that in your life) / metheny - long ago child / beck - cause we've ended as lovers 2006 / satriani - always with me, always with you / vai - christmas time is here / henderson - saturn 5 / egberto - video by tatsuyukiito that's 4:02 / paco - video called Paco De Lucia(concert) / benson - the shadow of your smile live '72
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
well, i take back what i said. he is unbelievable. this isn't one of his best videos. this song is awesome, and he is the first truly outstanding player i have seen in a long time. on first listen, i might have thought different phrasing at some parts would have been better, and he could have accented his bends a bit more (and he does elsewhere), but overall his style is one to take notice of. i am definitely a fan. this guys is awesome ;)
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
@BodhiSvaha lol whats with the sudden change of comment nature?
Kingding6 1 year ago
@Kingding6 i felt it was a bit too harsh saying that after seeing his other videos, and it's not fair to rate anyone against the top 5 guitarists of all time. i will say though that speed alone begins to take out the feeling. if you are blessed with speed, you go and do that, it is natural to you, but music starts with feel, and slowly builds. no-one will ever touch mclaughlin and holdsworth because they have that base upon which they built everything else.
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
@BodhiSvaha I agree to an extent. I think GG is "rushing" at the moment but that will change with age. My personal favorite is Shawn Lane and I think he had everything you could have in a guitarist. He'll always be the best for me
Kingding6 1 year ago
@Kingding6 i'd say he's easily the best technical player, but i would say guthrie has better phrasing. guthrie is already in the realm of being so fast, everything else starts to suffer, and shawn was the ultimate in speed, cleanliness, precision, subtletly, and dexterity. i love personae, and i like time is the enemy, but not much else is really moving. his soloing is a rush, but overall, muscially, he isn't one of the greatest of all time. again, past a certain speed it loses feeling
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
@Kingding6 if you can play fast, really fast, it gives you a rush. it is awesome, it gives you the thrill of life. that's why it's fun to play fast, but even though the player is getting a rush from it, and the audience too when they're playing fast, when it slows down, it loses its vitality, and there is no real feeling or good phrasing when playing slow. all of the focus is in speed, since it's such a rush, and getting faster, playing harder things fast, etc.
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
@Kingding6 i think shawn is the same compared to holdsworth as yngwie is to jimi. both of them were inspired by the great player that preceded them, but neither could duplicate that kind of playing, or really get the feel down, like their hero, which is what made their hero stand out most. they were blessed with speed, so they kept playing fast, focusing on that aspect. there's nothing wrong with that, but music is about feeling first. fast players won't have longevity like the greats though...
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
@Kingding6 mclaughlin seems to have had a more rounded style from the beginning, and polished it up, becoming frighteningly fast and at the same time writing some of the greatest music, and by the late 70s, and especially early 80s, went into the stratosphere. check out david, the 7:47 version off music spoken here. that is the craziest shit ever played on an acoustic. 17+nps, playing the most insane, impossible loops. he is and remains the most threatening guitar player in history. incredible.
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
@Kingding6 holdsworth played ultra fast to start, 18 and 20+nps, but he would have sort of licks and progressions he would play, tendencies you might say, going back to 1969 with his first recording, igginbottom's. he still had some of that tendency into the late 70s, even though he had recorded some of the greatest solos ever, like on fred and in the dead of night. by the 80s, he had reached the pinnacle of reserve, the purest, freest phrasing of all time. he is light years beyond anyone
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
@Kingding6 the shanw lane improv video truly is his most insane playing. i know everyone always says it's just a display of speed and technique, but that truly instills fear on an animalistic level, something someone else over there has said about it. it gives you a rush like nothing else. you can hardly believe what you are hearing. but at the end of it, it is more of a benchmark of technicality, speed and cleanliness than a memorable outing. it shocks you into awareness how crazy it is...
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
@Kingding6 satriani was influenced by hendrix, clapton, page, blackmore, beck, and has mentioned mclaughlin and holdsworth. vai is also influenced by mclaughlin, holdsworth and beck. listen to vai's call it sleep. it's a mclaughlin/beck tribute. vai is amazing. the best all-around player in the world. satriani is the most awesome player in the world. he has the newest, purest style of playing, and the best tone, that's why they call him saint joe. they are the greatest of the newer generation
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
@BodhiSvaha I agree to a certain extent. I'll always believe Shawn was the finest player to grace the instrument, no matter what. Yes, he is known as a speed freak. But he had more emotion and feeling in his playing than most. Epilogue for Lisa is (imo) one of the most beautiful songs ever composed. When he met Hellborg and got into Indian music he slowed down substantially. Thats when his phrasing came out. Absolute other wordily phrasing. I recommend the paris DVD to see what im talkin about.
Kingding6 1 year ago
@Kingding6 listen to shakti and remember shakti. no comparison. i'm not trying to bash him, but lane is going through the motions. he is kind of off on his own, then goes off on a warp speed lick, then back to a drone. mclaughlin plays with intensity, he plays note for note with zakir's tabla beats, especially on the first 70s albums. he only plays 14-15nps on those 70s records, but sustained, and what he is playing, and the way he interacts with the other players, is astounding.
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
@Kingding6 mclaughlin invented it. he is the first and still really the only westerner who can play and interact with north and south indian musicians of the highest caliber, and his rhythm and note choices for that kind of playing are unparalleled, even for any of the indian players. he is the centerpiece of the group, but, unquestionably, it is zakir that is the standout. i don't know if anyone has ever achieved the level of playing on any instrument he has.
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
@Kingding6 lane obviously loved shakti and mclaughlin. he wanted to try it out. he understood indian music, but he didn't feel it. he didn't really feel any kind of music to the deepest level. he missed it. he couldn't feel it, so he got distracted and detoured to speed. that is all there is though, for the most part. he sounds like he's trying to find something, searching for expression through his playing, while others express it. playing is expression. if not, you can't play.
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
@BodhiSvaha
you have no right to say shawn didn't feel indian music. only the person playing the music has the right to say what he feels and there are no exceptions to that ultimate rule.
Fluffypopcicle 1 year ago
@Fluffypopcicle it has to do with music in general. art is feeling. if you don't feel something it's not art. it's a display. yes, the player feels whatever they do, but the listener senses it instantly, if there is something there. there is no fooling anyone. it is about depth of soul of the player, and of the listener. he is a phenomenal player, but never really "had it". insisting that shawn is the greatest musician is just refusing to see to what is actually there.
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
@BodhiSvaha
sorry for the late response, but you totally fail. some listener can't feel something, but that doesn't mean something isn't there. some people think bands like decapitated are just noise and don't feel anything, but there is something there and the people who feel it get a massive adrenaline rush. you along with a lot of other people like sunderlanding seriously lack common sense. sunderlanding can't feel anything from guthrie and thinks he is hack. you both fail.
Fluffypopcicle 1 year ago
@Fluffypopcicle there is such a thing as more feeling in some kinds of music than others. listen to all the songs listed here and learn something. and learn how to spell your own name if you ever want to be taken seriously.
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
@BodhiSvaha
i am fully aware i spelt my name wrong, i just think it looks better that way and that's not an argument. whether i spell my name right or not you can't ignore facts just because my file name or my "age". something that always shocks me is that most of the retards on youtube are at least 20 years old. there is no such thing as "more feeling" in different types of music, but there is such thing as "different feeling". metal is the most diverse by a longshot though.
Fluffypopcicle 1 year ago
@Fluffypopcicle i have had time to listen to all kinds of music, and you are completely mistaken if you think metal is the most diverse. it is the least musical of any genre along with goth and punk, and the only thing less musical, which i call attempted musical imitation, is techno. you are 15. i will give you a break. i used to be a banger. back when metal was good. metallica and megadeth are the best metal bands, and sepultura's arise is awesome. the fact is, metal died 20 years ago.
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
@Fluffypopcicle there has been no significant innovation in metal, aside from the goons playing ibanez universes and downtuning. that is a laughable innovation. jazz is by far the most innovative. it can and does incorporate any other kind of music, perfectly. calling it fusion is a waste of time. jazz means the best music. the most fresh. new ideas. it is the blues, taken to the furthest reaches of the galaxy, but at its core it is the blues. the second most diverse is rock and pop.
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
@BodhiSvaha
continuing from my last comment: jesus i just realized how many comments you posted. seriously, get a life. you either haven't been listening to the massive amounts of metal there are or you are deaf. compare the metal from yesterday and today and it's completely different. i can't wrap my mind over how fucking retarded you are. im laughing, but im confused and pissed of at the same time. you don't know anything about metal, you have no right to judge it.
Fluffypopcicle 1 year ago
@Fluffypopcicle the jazz purists are idiots. any significant innovation, anyone with a new voice, will sound different. if it is improvisation, and the player or singer has good phrashing, it is jazz, the best jazz. to me, only the best players are jazz players. jimi was reaching into it, beck reaches into it, and page just touches it. almost everything else is total crap. world music can be called the jazz of various countries, but black american jazz is by far the greatest music.
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
@Fluffypopcicle most of the jazz players today are rehashing what has been done in the 60s. they are no more than karaoke players. and people will give you crap if you don't phrase exactly like them, don't do all the same old crap they all do. in that way, they are a lot like shredders. maybe a little more versatile, and have more reserve, but there is nothing truly moving about what they are playing. it is restating something old, that has been done a hundred times already.
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
@Fluffypopcicle metal now is like jazz was 20 or 30 years ago. coasting on its past achievements. the difference between jazz and metal is that there are always jazz players that are outside of any mould, pushing the boundaries in whatever way they choose, whatever way they happen to be going. metal has no room for improvement. it's the same heavy sound, the same old crap, and it is pathetic to hear it, and the most pathetic thing ever when someone listens to it exclusively.
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
@Fluffypopcicle most of the good jazz players were around in the 60s. miles davis is the archsage of all music. his is the most haunting playing of all time. look at him in his interviews. look at the depth of his eyes, the profundity of what he is saying. everything else revolves around him. they say jazz died when he did. it pretty much did, with the exception of the people who played with him, and few others. herbie is the greatest pianist of all time. wayne is the greatest saxophonist today.
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
@Fluffypopcicle aside from these players, almost all of them are guitarists - mclaughlin, metheny, holdsworth. the great drummers, dejohnette, cobham, chambers, (and tony williams and elvin jones), play great on others' albums, but the music doesn't have the same vitality on their own albums. al di meola is a phenomenal composer, but his playing is not in a league with the other players. he is perfect as a tango player. check out "plays piazzolla" and "the infinite desire".
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
@BodhiSvaha don't forget Tatum and Peterson. Some of the best musicians there to.
Kingding6 1 year ago
@Kingding6 yeah totally...i was trying to list the greatest living musicians...the list would be much longer if you included everyone haha ;)
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
@Fluffypopcicle there are great jazz singers also. nancy wilson, chaka khan, lalah hathaway, natalie cole, jimmy scott, but almost all of these, and almost all of the greats in any genre, have been around for a long time. stevie wonder is a great among the greats. even though jazz has great players, there really aren't that many, in the end, that are endlessly inventive, and have the most moving playing. same goes for any genre. good music exists everywhere, but it's mostly black american music.
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
@Fluffypopcicle modern r&b and hip-hop is going through what metal went through 20 years ago. it is old and tired. as a whole, and genre is past its prime. some of the top recent music is hip hop and r&b, but mostly in the 90s. it is time for a great upheaval of the old, and a new genre, or new genres, will be born. you get a feeling of indifference and repulsion to it. you've heard it too much, it has lost its edge, it is going nowhere. i guess it needs to do that for something new to be born.
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
@BodhiSvaha
bull shit. there are over 30 different genres of metal and there are still new metal bands and they are hitting success. there are still people around the world who are getting into metal, if anything it's getting more popular. you don't now shit about the metal scene.
Fluffypopcicle 1 year ago
@Fluffypopcicle dude. if all you listen to is metal, you are completely clueless about music. the reason i don't listen to metal is because practically every other genre of music is better, is more musical, and will have longevity (i will continue to listen to it forever, unlike music that gives you a "rush" and nothing else). i don't care if there are 50 genres of metal. it's 50 different kinds of noise that barely qualifies as music. in time you will realize this.
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
@BodhiSvaha
lol you truly have no idea what musical talent is if you think almost every other music genre is better. metal gives you more than just a "rush". you can poor more types of emotion in metal than any other music. anger, sorrow, pride, grief, love, happiness etc. you can do it all with metal. all metal sounds different and the only reason you think it's just noise is because you don't. go listen to escent of the arch angel by kamelot and call that just noise. you epicly fail.
Fluffypopcicle 1 year ago
@BodhiSvaha
continuing: oh, and i listen to all forms of good music, not just metal. classical, jazz, blues, jazz fusion, experiental, new age, rap (good rap), rock, techno etc. i bet you can't even make a metal song. i have enjoyed practically every music genre in existence, but metal has stuck with me the longest because there are more things to do with it and it is the most versatile. i play these genres of music, unlike you who doesn't know shit about metal.
Fluffypopcicle 1 year ago
@BodhiSvaha - This argument is a fail - there is NO such thing as a certain kind of music having "more feel" than another... Take punk - personally, I hate it, but there is still feel in some of it. I love jazz, but some of it is mind numbingly boring - with some players merely trying to cope with playing the changes. Your argument reeks of a little kid's intellect - grow up, and lose the ignorance... Oh, and yes, Jimi Hendrix is NOT the best guitar player in the world... even if he WERE alive..
mozzy2410 1 year ago
@Fluffypopcicle listen to john on goodbye pork pie hat live. jonas is peaking as john crests over the summit into the heights of ecstasy. i have never seen playing like that from anyone else.
type in zyryab. look at john's playing. even paco is mesmerized. they are the grandmasters of all guitar players. the greatest acoustic duo recording of all time. music of the gods
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
@Kingding6 he even played with some of the indian players from shakti, and they highly regard him as a player also, but it's more because he takes playing to new heights, the thrill and rush of the speed he's playing at, but it's more organic and real with mclaughlin. natural. it is completely natural because it is his music, and the indian musicians bland in perfectly with him (i would say more he blends in perfectly with them). there really is no discussing that. john is untouchable
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
@Kingding6 i listened to a few clips. aga of the ladies is a good song. it is an enjoyable listen, and a different side to his playing, with some nice soloing, but if you heard him playing that way with a regular trio, it would sound the same as it always does. there is something missing. allowing the feeling to guide you. it always sounds so calculated, like "oh i'll put the next note here", for the slow playing. then fast warping. he never really let it take him where it might have...
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
great player, but doesn't have the greatest phrasing, has a terrible vibrato, and no sustain. those are the key elements in feel. he plays with more precision and breathtaking speed than anyone except perhaps lane, and maybe alternate picks faster, but he will never be in the echelon of hendrix, mclaughlin, holdsworth, metheny and beck. fast players place speed first, and sacrifice all other aspects of the music for it. that's just how it goes.
BodhiSvaha 1 year ago
he'll never match the good old fat man!!!!!!!!!!!! SHAWN LANE!!!
shawnlanefatty9393 1 year ago
@shawnlanefatty9393 True Say
Kingding6 1 year ago
the outro solo is the best solo i have ever heard in my 30 years of guitar playing
vheadfacelegs 1 year ago 12
@vheadfacelegs Agreed, best solo I've ever heard.
Situious 1 year ago
@vheadfacelegs absolutely agree! mothafuckah!! he sings with his fingers!
RGBLackson 1 year ago
next g3 should be - IMO - gilbert, satriani, govan
Bradrsnk6vca7nj 1 year ago 3
@Bradrsnk6vca7nj +1
CommBreakDown 1 year ago
@Bradrsnk6vca7nj Vai - Govan- Satriani
dollerklause 1 year ago
Govan is not a jazz player, he is a rock player. But he knows how to play jazz and many other musical styles. And he can play it all perfectly.
2:40 - it was a mini-fail.)
6x21 1 year ago
well, due to the new you tube we now know that there 2 in 245 people are musical retards. (2 people disliked this :o)
Guitareben 1 year ago 12
@Guitareben sadly, I think the real figure is a bit higher
martinisbutik 1 year ago
good thing just about everyone like this :)
amazing!
wat3rbottl3 1 year ago
This is fucking incredulous, best guitarist to ever live.
Situious 1 year ago
es lo mejor que hay hoy en dia.... increible musica
GODCORRUPTED 1 year ago
i love feeling really musical when i count his phrasing in seven beats ahahaa
vheadfacelegs 1 year ago
who is playin drums
garydink 1 year ago
Pete Riley. He's a phenomenal player from what I've seen.
fingerboy18 1 year ago
Total freedom on the fretboard like this has not been seen since the Late Shawn Lane
Kingding6 1 year ago 3
@Kingding6 Agree 100%
TheWhocares233 1 year ago
Fucking god!
ezequieles 1 year ago
The best in the world
Enough said
4lifeguitar 1 year ago
me fascina el tapping del interludio!!!!
master govan 5/5
jspiolo 1 year ago
He is nearlly equal Shawn Lane!
hira1800 2 years ago 2
@hira1800 All of the top guitarists are equal as far as skill, its who youd rather listen to that defines choice. I love Govan because hes quirky, spontaneous and original. Of course he can shred like anyone else. But I also love Petrucci because he puts together really great songs, and hes an excellent composer. those are my 2 favorits.
theoak84 1 year ago
i don't mean to rip on guthrie here, cuz i love his stuff, but he murdered the tapping melody. at one point (2:32) he was hitting the wrong notes and was totally off time and then he just started vamping. regardless, he could still outplay me if he was a quadriplegic
gtocin87 2 years ago
damn dudes who cant stop searching for mistakes.
korntwist1 2 years ago
@gtocin87 in this case it's clearly a lighting issue. You can see him turn to try and see what he's doing during the final tapping section. It does look awfully dark at points. Luckily for us he ends the song on one of the most amazing outro solos I've ever heard. Hell even Pete Riley (drummer) looks like he's got tears in his eyes hehe.
TearTheRoofOff 2 years ago
lighting has nothing to do with it. Once you've played guitar long enough you don't need to see, you feel. it's instinct. I really wasn't trying to rip on him, it's just little things like that remind me that he is human and makes mistakes like everyone else. BTW i checked out animals as leaders... new favorite band lol
gtocin87 2 years ago
@gtocin87 then why does he look at the fretboard every time he plays that passage? I'm not attacking the fact that you're ripping it' just it seems evident to me that in this clip he clearly has an issue with seeing what he's doing. In other clips of him playing this passage he nails it, even in years previous to this one.
TearTheRoofOff 2 years ago
I love the melodic tapping!
GuitarnScythes 2 years ago
another virtuoso of guitar in this era is Tosin Abisa ( I think thats how to spell it lol) or just type in animals as leaders; very unique, mixture of metal, jazz, its pretty new wave but that guy is amazing.
pcnation11 2 years ago
@pcnation11 tosin abasi lol hes my teacher
leekwesi 2 years ago