Wheelchair martial arts (self defence)

[Widok]

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[emuking5]

I know this is fucked up, but you have to admit it would be funny if one guy in a wheelchair tried to mug another guy in a wheelchair, and they both knew wheelchair fu. And they started doing all kinda of crazy wheel-chair fighting in the middle of street.

[castiel8898]

can u send me some videos of your techniques i,m also in a w/c . i did some martial arts for awhile in tae kwon do . so i,ve tried some of my own techniques but i would like to learn as much as i can . ty mike k

[VaughnBrogdon121]

This is excellant training what style is it ?

[chilsong]

@VaughnBrogdon121 The wrist locks are taken from Hanmudo, founded by Dr He Young Kimm. Unfortunately Master Bob Banham passed away in April of this year. We at Chilsong and the wider Hanmudo community miss him deeply.

[kirkwanglers32]

Many Thanks for this Vid.

At my Dojo We Had Gent in a Wheelchair,He Hasnt Got the speed Bless Him

[rainmhf]

Bob, your methods of instruction are abusive and incorrect at best. The wrist locks you are demonstrating need to be done in a soft and gentle manner during INSTRUCTION Here you apply them too hard and for too long just so you can demonstrate with the pain(and possible injury)to your students your effectiveness despite being paralyzed. This GREATLY reflects your egotistical nature and inferiority complex about being handicapped. You should be ashamed to call yourself a martial artist.

[Quay606]

This training is so needed. I work at a Veterans hospital in the wheelchair repair shop. We get alot of the younger vets wanting us to help them figure a way to strap a gun on their chairs. Many are having problems with punks and gangs and want a way to defend themselves. Much more of this type training is needed. All you martial arts experts checking this video out, maybe you could hook up with the vets in your area and help out.

[JingShenKuoshu]

Great stuff, I'd like to get some feedback from you on what we've done with Therese. She broke her neck at C5 trying to bodysurf. She is an incomplete C5 Quadriplegic but has made unbelievable strides with her training.

I would be very interested in staying in contact with you.

Greg Fraser

[glenaw]

Great video. Do you have any training videos. I'm a paraplegic and have been looking for something like this for years.

[glenaw]

Very interesting videos. I have been looking for something like this for years. I'm 51 years old and have been in a wheelchair since the age of 3. Do you have training videos? I live in Southern California in the United States. Please contact me.

[SOCOMSoldier01]

Han Mu Do!!! :D FTW

[giygasattack]

Can't believe the extreme stupidity of people saying wheelchair users have little upper body strength. Guess what part of the body they're using constantly?

Also, most wheelchair users hate terms like 'differently able', physically challenged or 'wheelchair bound'.

Also also, they'd think you're a patronising twat for basing your decision on whether to attack them or not on them being in a wheelchair.

[bossman12334]

hey guys just putting my word in this convosation. im in a wheel chair been in one for 4 years and i can bench about 250 to 300 pounds so i got the muscle and i box im not a pro trained martial arts person but i could definitely take some one standing . hey bob10453 are you the one teaching this stuff? if so i would love to have a chat with you message me or email me smackdown12121992@yahoo.com . i want to learn more on this art

[RobSmith123456]

I wish I was British (judging by the accent) right about now ... Retting victimized while in a wheelchait gets really old, really fast ....

[Guyll21]

None of this shit would work on a big guy.

[iheretic]

Yes it does. In fact, wrist locks particularly will take down big guys... I know this from experience.

Thank you, carry on.

[Guyll21]

Not if he's strong enough to keep you from twisting his wrist in the first place. 90% of people in wheelchairs do not have very good upper body strength to begin with.

[hwaycasie30728]

@Guyll21 actually it will I'm a paraplegic and have been in martial arts 26 years and have used similar techniques to defend myself

[Guyll21]

@hwaycasie30728 It really depends on who you're facing. Some people may just try to grab you while others would just start swinging. For the latter, the wrist lock is a little too late.

[ArnisNewbie]

@Guyll21 Your comments just prove how ignorant of physically challenged individuals you are. I've been in a wheelchair all my life, and when I was in high school, I had a thing for arm wrestling. I would beat guys 3-4 times my size. Your comment that 90% of "disabled" people are weak is sheer ignorance. It's more like 90% of physically challenged people are 2-3 times stronger than the average "able-bodied" person due to having to push a manual wheelchair for years. Educate yourself!

[Guyll21]

@ArnisNewbie Okay let an able body person explode with punches on you. 1. you cant get away without using your hands to move the chair. 2. By sitting, your defensive punching power is greatly decreased. Not being mean, it's just the facts.

[ArnisNewbie]

@Guyll21 Have you ever been in a wheelchair? I have had an able-bodied person explode with punches on me, and I beat his ass. What's the point of getting away? Until you've been in a chair, you shouldn't talk about people that are because you just make yourself sound ignorant.

[Guyll21]

@ArnisNewbie Maybe you did beat his ass. Depending on who you're scrapping with, and how adept you are, it is possible. I never said it was an impossible scenario that a wheelchair bound individual could best an able-bodied one. It's just not very likely. The move these guys are demostrating rarely works on able-bodied persons, not to mention someone who naturally knows how to fight. They just do not work. I've been there and done it.

[stompySharpNpointy]

@ArnisNewbie agree...i study ryukyu kempo and tuite jitsu and im in a chair. what i lack in body movement for punching i make up with arm breaking and striking the arms\legs(nerve pounts) a hammer fist strike to an elbow can take out an arm ez

[666tReaper]

anyone who has had a joint lock put on them by someone who knows what they are doing will tell you there is little you can do if you have no idea how to counter them properly, if you can at all. serious damage can be done and it's no different if the guy is in a wheelchair and he gets you in a lock. but knowing that stuff will not save you from everything but it can't hurt. everyone should know a bit of self defence this day n age it's needed.

[seancoppinger]

is this TKD? I always thought it was all flying kicks and showboating.

[UnresolvedExternal]

I see. This video is about defending yourself in a wheelchair. But, how do you defend yourself FROM people in wheelchairs? That's what is really important.

[cryppl3th3kyd]

But I have a brittle bones disease called OI how would i defend my self no joke

[olivelake]

I dont know the laws in your area but I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by six. ie weapons & keeping out of dangerous situations where you are in the dark alone - scum prey on easy targets

-no impact weapon becuase if you're weak, it could be taken from you and used on you

fox cone fog pepperspray or bear spray

a long, sharp knife, dipped in iodine or pepperspray and allowed to dry, stabing takes no strength

a gun

a taser

----basically a weapon, and a damned good one

[MuayThaiEmperor]

Joint locks and manipulation is ideal for someone with OI. Instead of striking, which can cause you more damage than them. grabbing their wrist, finger, etc is preferable and very practical actually. And also realistic self defense techniques like attacks to the eyes and throat.

[iheretic]

This may sound patronising, but it's serious. I'm a disabled martial artist (muscular dystrophy) and the first rule will get out of most situations: Don't Get Hit. This is especially important for brittle bones as even dealing out a joint lock could cause you huge problems. I don't know how severe your condition is, but if you Don't Get Hit then your bones won't break.

[cjcuk]

great video im i train in jujitsu but i broke myfoot and im stuck in a heelchair i never thought about looking this up before but it seems pretty good and i dont really have to learn different techniques cause they are the same joint locks that i already know

[BTC141]

Real men do not attack people in wheelchairs. Just out of curiosity, is there such a thing as wheel chair Karate where the both opponents are in wheelchairs. Thanks.

[bob10453]

People in wheelchairs do get attacked. To think otherwise is naive. And the other suggestion is as bad as getting midgets to fight for your entertainment!

[olivelake]

very good point Bob.

entertaining ourselves at getting bums, midgets other disabled to fight each other is lowly and ignorant

[ChasingOffTheDays]

@bob10453 Maybe BTC141 is in a wheelchair and wants to know if this sort of activity is available to them? Just sayin'.

[BTC141]

@ChasingOffTheDays No I'm not in a wheelchair. I used to do Kempo Kung Fu. You can see some of my tournament vids on my page but I wasn't aware of self defence for people in wheelchair.

[Justericpersonal]

@bob10453 I don't think he meant for entertainment?.

[Pauljos79]

Real men do not attack people in wheelchairs? Well, find a wheelchair have a sit and go to a dangeous neighborhood at night or just go with your chair for a lonely and dark street and then tell us that...if you survive. We live in a jungle and nobody is safe.

Robers and murderers don´t have compassion for kids, women, old people, blind people or people with any disability. I think he is doing a great job teaching.

[BTC141]

Would you attack someone in a wheelchair? I know that there are robbers and murderers out there in the "jungle" and they would attack anyone. I don't consider those scumbags to be real men. They are lower than dirt. That is my point that I'm making. Think about it.

[Pauljos79]

Obviously I would not...I think I got the point now.

[Laurielou862]

@BTC141 Unfortunately, there are plenty of unreal men out there. I'm a woman who uses a manual chair, and I'd like to get to know things like this to deal with any one who decides I'm an easy target. Go bob!

[teroxus]

@BTC141 Real Men do not attack people in general, but handicapped people fall as easy pickins to muggers, pickpockets etc. and yeah there are handicapped divisions in tournaments but why join those divisions when you are trained to down a normal man 3 times your size?

[hermionerox64]

@BTC141 I know someone who was in a wheelchair and almost got raped. The Self Defense course she took help her knock out the rapist and call the cops

[BTC141]

@hermionerox64 I'm glad to hear the woman was able to defend herself.

[tjthegreat7]

@BTC141 I'm in a wheelchair and I have been attacked several times it sucks the world is not as nice as you think it is

[Justericpersonal]

@BTC141 yes people i wheelchairs probably would/have attacked each other. =) hope this helped

God bless. Great question(even if the person asked didnt answer)

[BTC141]

@Justericpersonal Thank you. Yes, this did help. God bless.

[Justericpersonal]

@BTC141 You're very welcome,and I am very glad it helped you. Thanks. If you ever have q's lemme know. Im open

[plowenson]

@BTC141 a real man don't attack anyone... but there are many idiots out there looking for a fight or just trying to rob you. so this could be useful :)

[3rdDan4Life]

Awesome video, thanks for posting!

[RodolfoManfredi]

;-)

[LIAikikai]

Thank you very much for posting this video.

[mikereis77]

I really like the techniques for you self-defense I'm sharing them with some of my friends on here. Great job.

[bob10453]

We are in the process of doing a full speed/power version which should give you a different perspective. Watch this space (patiently!)

[USSRobertPaulson]

I think these are GREAT techniques for wheelchair. Anyone reaching or punching at a person in a wheelchair is ALREADY putting themselves off balance. Good work!

[JasonJ25]

There are so many problems with this. When that person kicked he kicked his shoulder and I would have kicked his head and he couldn't have blocked it. This is not practical. Have him attack him full speed, like he is in a fight. Just so you know I use to walk, now I'm in a wheelchair, and I have done martial arts all my life.

[bob10453]

I have done martial arts for 40 years and if you have done it for so long I'm very surprised at your comment. As you should know, demonstrations of technique can't emulate reality. Demos and teaching have by their nature to be slow and precise. Before I was in a chair I worked as a nightclub doorman, body guard and security guard so I know the reality of aggression and violence and believe me when I tell you that if you try and kick me anywhere, I'm gonna take you out in the most final way!

[JasonJ25]

I understand that you have to slow down the techniques for learning and demos but things are different in a wheelchair then standing up and I wanted to see if it will work in reality. Not all martial arts techniques are practical. If you really can defend yourself in a figth then that is great but I just keep thinking about a person attacking and being in a wheelchair trying to keep your balance. Have you put gear on and tried to do certain things that would be more based in reality?

[chungjik]

I fail to see the issues that you have with this deomonstration. First, This is a slow speed deomonstration of "one step sparring." It is meant to be at slow speed to show each technique clearly. It is not supposed to be a full speed fight.

Even if the kick had been at the guy's head, there are plenty of blocking techniques and striking that can be done to protect onesself. BTW - I myself use a wheelchair and have studied Soo Bahk Do karate (yes - in my wheelchair) for the past 6 years.

[boringgrass]

i love u guys writing essays on youtube

wheel chari does have disadvantage, but just like all martial arts practise makes perfect

[JasonJ25]

Practice makes habit not perfect. You get muscle memory.

[iheretic]

This I'll agree with.

[JasonJ25]

The issue is not slowing it down. You refer to that so your not understanding my point. I'm not talking about teaching or demos. I'm talking real life fights. Some of the things he does don't seem practical regardless of whatever block you can come up with. Not everyone in a wheelchair will be able to block someone punching them full force. It will knock them off balance. What are you going to do take a person down with a wrist lock and then what. That doesn't end a fight.

[chungjik]

Regardless of disability, not everyone can do all of the same techniques. Blocking a punch at full force can throw anyone off balance. It is obvious that some people will get thrown off balance more than others, however no real fight is ever scripted. Learning to defending yourself to the best of your ability is better than not at all.

[JasonJ25]

Whether or not your in a wheelchair or standing you can become off balance from a strike so I agree with you. Also, I agree with you that learning to defend yourself is better than not at all. Certain techniques that are in this video will not work. Again, a wrist lock is not going to end a fight unless you can hold them in it and scream for someone to come and help you. You can't script a fight but you can train for one and I don't think some things in this video will help for that thats it

[iheretic]

I know this sounds harsh, but I'll agree with you. A wrist lock won't end a fight, especially if there's more than one attacker. You might be able to psyche out the other attackers with a lock on their buddy that causes pain, but more than likely you'll have to 'get rid of' the others as well. In this case breaks (these techniques taken to their logical conclusion) might serve better than locks.

[iheretic]

Even if the kick is hard and takes you out of your chair, take the effing leg with you and you can neutralise them from the ground.

In the eyes of the law, they attacked you... breaking something may sound harsh but if you're in a chair then it's almost certainly considered reasonable force in self defense.