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  • Just to the so called 'christian' trolls'....well how are you so sure that your religion is the right one? How do you know their religion is not right? How do you know if all religions are not right in some sense and wrong in another? Think about it! Besides whats the point of arguing online? If you disagree about their beliefs I honestly dont see you in peaceful missionary work.........so sit down and shut up

  • fuck pagans we burned you to death ahahahahahah fuck romans and pagans

  • @Deathbyomega

    whos "we"??

  • dammit, now I have to find blackbat1339's comment

  • we are not that strange, we are the fairy tribes, why this huge rift to jump, still we are alive, bridging the truth, striking the peace again between life and death, healing, with our medicines, now the circle of life is more connected, and so the universe spirit revolutes more, comes more in tune with the divine emanation of Wanti

  • Pagan friends...please don't feed the trolls...there's truly nothing to be gained from it, except a display of hate. You're better than that... Be well.

  • Maybe pain and punishment caused religion? Just an idea. It seems to cause in us a desire to sacrifice to a higher power. It's an observation, little more than that. Nobody wants to be completely helpless. Maybe inventing fake reasons for things gives us a feeling of control despite the fact that it's only a placebo pill to chill the anxiety. Maybe it's a form of cognitive dissonance? God knows there's much misery we're helpless to prevent.

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  • People use religious faith to cope with death and misfortune. It's just the way it's. We want to know how and why things are. In a way, science is hte same kind of thing. It answers our questisons (or attempts to). But science cannot offer us eternal life. So I don't think science can ever completely replace religion unless you can: a) give people eternal life b) answer their questions about things far beyond hte reach of present observational tools.

  • What is to say religion CAN give people eternal life? People THINK that their religion will but they have no PROOF, it's all speculation and hoping. Also religion doesn't necessarily give correct answers to the questions science can't yet tackle, just because they provide answers doesn't mean those answers are correct.

  • not secretive, but sometimes we find we must be kind of quiet with some aspects of our magic so that it can grow and come to fruition without being marred by the organization systems of others,

  • or any organization systems, aside from its natural indwelling spiritual intelligence, though just as much we must realize all spirits are our own, and thus even in the most open exclamation we only succeed in uniting all parts of the soul connected with the universe consciousness and melding with it.

    but lingerings too much on how it works is suspect because there is no one way that it works,

  • Love the Pagans.

  • The CRUSADES were a series of SELF DEFENSE wars REconquering lands VIOLENTLY STOLEN by barbaric muzzies. Pagans are scumbag murderers and brutally persecuted christians in the early roman empire.Hitler was also a fascist neopagan nordic supremacist. Fuck atheists and pagans

  • @Deathbyomega

    fuck yourself dick

  • Fuck Pagans, I hope you all burn in hell after God turns you away from the gates of heaven

  • @Cerek120 what the hell is wrogn with you? im pagan and many peoplei know are.. your ancesters were pagan and most and we dont belive in the devil what most people think.. dont bad mouth things you dotn understand u ignorant person

  • @Envi270 My problem is that you people are immoral heathens who engage in acts of sin and vice and deserve to burn for it

  • @Cerek120 wow. hate to break it to you but EVERYONE gets into heaven, if they want to. looks like I know more about your religion than you do. blessed be.

  • Fuk the pagans bro

  • @MiLkZombi3

    Fuck you and your bible

  • Fuck pagans

  • @AtomicBomb79

    fuck YOU

  • @ragdoll485 Bitch please fuck you don't get mad just because I'm basing my opinion on your "religion"

  • Fuck pagans.

  • @Taz3rable Straight up

  • why our ancestors chose to convert to chritianity is beyond me what a weak and repressive religion we shoud o back to our old ways and fuk all these other religions up

  • @craigcousins1991 well u can start doing Pagan practices. 

  • @craigcousins1991 Yeah! You said it bro, fuck this Christfag and Gaytheist shit!

  • zetatalk. com/myths/m66.htm

  • @socratesthegadfly morally better person. We don't worship creation rather we try to commune and better understand it, as we are all a part of it.

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  • @blackbat1339 Oh yea well fuck you

  • @blackbat1339

    When Pliny the Elder writes:

    "Therefore we cannot too highly appreciate our debt to the Romans for having put an end to this monstrous cult, whereby to murder a man was an act of the greatest devoutness, and to eat his flesh most beneficial" (Pliny)

    I would trust he whose stature is of great influence to history over one who capitalizes words to make emphasis on a topic, one who doesn't understand the very history of their own beliefs.

  • pagans were mostly peaceful until the Christians raided their homes because of differing beliefs... pretty sad

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  • @SocratesTheGadfly erm actully- i'm Pagan and proud of it. i think you will find that Christians were Brutal. or is that yet another thing that you lot have forgotten? THE WITCHCRAFT ACT. that was caused by christians. THE CRUSADES- OH YES! CHRISTIANS AGAIN! Go do you reserch before having a bitch at Pagans. go learn about your own religon and its history.

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  • @SocratesTheGadfly it Seems that you just came here to Spam and Point the finger with the whole "WITCH!" kinda thing. well you Dickhead pehaps i could ask as to what brought you to this Video? Do what you will, so long as it harms none. if you belive that pagans are "EVIL" pehaps you should take a look at what your doing, and go and spam some other videos. WHY LOOK FOR A VIDEO ABOUT PAGANISM IF YOU HATE IT THAT MUCH?!

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  • @SocratesTheGadfly lol I am not going to read your whole arguement but by your last comment you kind of contradicted yourself. You talked about others who have intolerance but you then say that Paganism is evil. When paganism is an official religion whose teachings basic principle is "If ye harm none, do what ye will". Meaning if what you do doesnt harm yourself or others, continue with your life. It's a very earthy religion that wants to preserve and commune with the earth and its creatures.

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  • @SocratesTheGadfly Oh no, I'm sure that Paganism has had it's dark moments in history, as all religions and civilizations have had. The question is do you recognize the dark moments in your religion. I'm assuming by your talk of God as the Creator that you are some sort of Christian. I grew up in a Roman Catholic household, went to Catholic School Kindergarten all through High School. I know that religion. I believed and loved that religion. But as I learned more and more I started to realize...

  • @Socratesthegadfly that that religion wasn't for me. They have their good points, they preach of being thankful and loyal to the creator, the teach family morals, but they pity those who dont believe, they damn people with different beliefs or orientations. If I didnt agree with all this religions teachings, why should I waste its time. God said he would spit out the luke warm people. so I went cold and searched for what made me happy. It just so happened that paganism makes me happy, and a

  • @SocratesTheGadfly

    And your religion is entirely without fault? Ahahahaa. You complete moron.

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  • @SocratesTheGadfly

    Cognitive dissonance? And you base that on what exactly? I suppose I shouldn't expect a profound response off of somebody who believes Noah built some kind of refrigeration system on the arc to keep the polar bears alive.

  • @SocratesTheGadfly

    And congrats on contradicting yourself. You claim I "have the acumen of a toad stool". Makes about as much sense as God burying Dinosaur fossils to test your faith.

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  • Nice work!!

  • wtf is it with this 'pagan' shit? the word sounds so denigrating.. oh, they're not christian, muslim, jew, hindu or buddhist.. they're pagan.. even in docus on the roman empire they'll use this word... it seems to me it's just another word to color history.. it doesn't sound scientific to me

  • i am a modern day pagan hahaha they didnt find everything there are 3 of in hawaii and they cold they selves Christiani

  • Volume is really lowwwww

  • This video was uploaded nearly 5 years ago; I wish I had seen the original broadcast on the History Channel :(

  • @PiarasFeiritear Good, at least you're going Norwegian. The best race lol.

  • @TheNorsePagan Let me guess, you're Norwegian? That aside, it's nice to know about Europeans who aren't ashamed of their pagan roots.

  • @PiarasFeiritear Shut it you bent shit.

  • @Manoficeandsnow

    Great post!

  • im pagan

  • I came here looking for realistic history on paganism. Instead I found the History Channel.

  • To each their own.

  • ok ok HOLD UP, im just going to say what i believe, i think that no religion is right or wrong and that everyone is worshipping the same thing, thats why i say no religion is the "true" religion

  • My ancestors birthplace is Orkney Island Scotland which I also have Aeris Viking ancestry as well my great aunt Sif wife of Thor was born on Orkney Island Scotland she is who am connected to in the afterlife she is my link to both Vikings and Pagans of long ago and try to live my life today like them in nature found out through a Ouija board so I am very proud of bloodlines for I shall forever have Viking & Pagan blood running through my veins.

  • My ancestors birthplace is Orkney Island Scotland wish I also have Aeris Viking ancestry as well my great aunt Sif wife of Thor was born on Orkney Island Scotland she is who am connected to in the afterlife she is my link to both Vikings and Pagans of long ago and try to live my life today like them in nature found out through a Ouija board so I am very proud of bloodlines for I shall forever have Viking & Pagan blood running through my veins.

  • I am a pagan and so glad that my brothers and sisters (my people) are still alive today.

    We will never die and nor will our believes.

  • @TheNorsePagan i got some viking blood? does that count

  • @TheEDBShow you're ok I guess.

  • @TheNorsePagan Hey wait why do u hate other Pagans I pray to Odin too. 

  • @MrIndoCanadian Why do some Christfags hate other Christfags? Why do some Gaytheists (atheists) hate other Gaytheists? I hate prancy, hippy pagans but I love people like me. If you uphold pagan values then you're cool with me.

  • @TheNorsePagan I don't have a problem with Greco Pagans, Hindus that was what I was talking about.

  • @MrIndoCanadian I don't have an opinion on Hindus. I like my fellow Vikings more than anyone else.

  • @TheNorsePagan I love Vikings.

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  • no no these guys love horus isis and osiris the the creators of this fucked up system and never ending war..lets never learn what real truth is and keep following the most evil 3 that mankind has ever known

  • Followers of the nephilim!!!!!!!!!!!! go learn real history and with hard fact you will find nothing but neephilim...haha you people are so fucking stupid you talk shit about angles and god...really really look at all the artifacts...ur fake gods say they are aliens...hahaha what a bunch of idiots that fall for suck a trick

  • pagans are fucking stupid.. lets make a green movment so people will follow our fake bullshit gods but we will never tell then its paganisum!!!...so why do the pagans gotta lie?

  • @Macleery LOL! This is a joke, right? The Holy Trinity, the cross, Santa Claus, the saints, the Christmas tree, the date of Christmas, the Easter Bunny, the date of Easter, and those images of Mary holding Jesus were all stolen from Paganism in an attempt to get more people to convert. So, which religion is really deceiving its followers? And you don't have to be Pagan to want to help the Earth.

  • @SunnyHappy2008 Go learn about the Nephilim, the fallen angels that told man they are aliens, every single thing you believe in is from demons and fallen angels..go study real history and all ur artifacts, then look at what god tells us even tho you hate god i still study and learn ur nephilim pagan demon religion, leave the stupid easlily defeated stupid stuff at the door..as easter santa and the other stupid crap you say...lets get to the real of it and learn whats real

  • @Macleery RIIIIIIIGGGHTTT...

    What's real is that many concepts and traditions that are generally accepted today as Christian were around way before Christianity formed.

    You know what. No. I'm not going to waste my time trying to come up with a well constructed answer for some delusional fanatic that can't even use basic capitalization or spelling.

  • @SunnyHappy2008 when you know you seen defent use the straw man.....

  • @Macleery What the fuck is 'the straw man'? Seriously, I've only heard that expression once and I never got it. And the is 'defent'? Do you mean defeat? And I'm facing defeat because I'm choosing to not argue with a dumbass who thinks demons and fallen angels are real? I don't understand what I'm being defeated at. I made a true statement and you did nothing to combat it. All you did was change the subject.

  • @SunnyHappy2008 you see defeat cuz ur a pussy that knows nothing at all of real history where ur gods came from and what you really believe...you are a tool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..but ya attack my spelling you might win that way..or at least beat the straw man

  • @Macleery You don't know what I believe in asshole! For all you know, I could be an Atheist. I don't even know what argument we're having. I told you something because you said something else that was really fucking stupid. I'm attacking your spelling because bad spelling and grammar, in my opinion, lowers any credibility a person has. How do I know nothing of real history? You're the one talking about demons and fallen angels. Go take your Seroquel.

  • @SunnyHappy2008 when you see defeat use the straw man its all you have and ever had...you are a fucking idiot in every way possible...you attack people made of straw then do a victory lap as everyone laughs at how stupid you really are

  • @Macleery That's the third time you've used the SAME SENTENCE. Oh yeah, I'm totally the stupid one here. Seriously, the doctor prescribed you Seroquel for a reason. Take it.

  • @SunnyHappy2008 use the starw man when defeat is all ur up aginst

  • @Macleery How many times are you gonna type the same comment, sweetheart?

  • @SunnyHappy2008 how is that the same comment but yet again u use the straw man when you see defeat..do you even know what the straw man is?..we cant get to the heart of any matter untill you learn how to learn and quit with the straw man

  • @Macleery "When you know you seen defent use the straw man..." and "use the starw man when defeat is all ur up aginst"

    SAME COMMENT. And I just told you I don't know what a 'straw man' is.

  • Hmmm golden age syndrome how about the thousands of people who now own small holdings and are living a SELF SUFFICIENT and SPIRITUAL lifestyle, that is what I appreciate the most!!

  • Heh, most of you're as fucked as the christians are, you're just a lot weaker so your crap won't build up to anything. Funny stuff though, seeing little kids fantasize. The only sad part is that most of you're adults speaking like little kids....

  • sigh, sad to see both sides "pagan's and christians" bickering like a bunch of morons. here is a saying: "closed minded people are the first to open their mouths"

  • @riggerman123 Oh man, I love your attitude! Like, why can't we all just get along? I mean, we were given a free will to see and experience things as individuals, yet Christianity tries to maintain that there path is the only 'true' one. Like you said: close-minded people are the first to open their mouths!

  • i am a modern pagan and went to orkney.. typed in 'pagan' on youtube and found this... had no idea how much my religion and the islands were connected!!

  • pagans what a joke you ancestors abandoned this nonsense thousands of years ago

  • @albokk because we were forced by you Christians, if we displayed our faith you would burn us for "worshipping the devil" what a load of bollocks

  • @liamvanvel1996 no you werent forced are fucking stupid what kind of logic is that , pagans were the overwhelming majority and they slowly turned to christinanity , how can a tiny minority force a majority to convert lol

  • @albokk we were forced remember that dude jesus oh yeah after that surge of christians and jews you started to burn pagans so we went into hiding

  • @albokk you retard, so how could a tiny minority of christian whites rule over south africa?

    just a few centuries back you christian scum wiped out native americans.

    this was also how europe was christianized, in 394 the ancient olympics were banned by christian scum because they were a greek religious festival.

    you don't need to be a majority in numbers to impose your ideology/cult, stop trying to whitewash christian crimes.

  • @pspawnslayer hahah what a fucking idiot , first off u fucking faggot read what i said properly pagans converted peacefully to christianity for 300 years christianity became majority. "christian scum wiped out native americans" ignorance at its best first of 95% of natives died because of diseases it didnt take 300 years to convert all pagans took almost a 1000 years for all pagans to convert to christianity , pagans realized that paganism was bullshit that y

  • @albokk you retarded fuck, the natives were given diseased blankets and other stuff as they were considered "heathens".

    "peacefully" my ass, if they converted "peacefully" then where was the need for banning pagan festivals, torturing those who refused to convert, the inqusition.

    are you denying the historical FACT that christians banned olympics, vandalized the parthenon, issued edicts of death penalty for pagans?

    by your "logic" i suppose albania became muslim majority voluntarily.

  • @albokk christian scum were acting out their message of "peace" in a place as far as India. Google "Goan Inquisition". Bet you are real proud of torturing pregnant women for christ, that's your religious heritage.

    christians can't help but be liars, your entire cult is built on a lie and hate just like the muslims.

    worshipping some dead jew bastard rejected by his own community and who couldn't even save himself as "God" lol give me a break.

  • @pspawnslayer your cult is gone in most of europe, most people are just only christians in name.

    some countries like the czech republic are already majority non christian and you and your stupid church can't do shit about it lol.

    i bet you are also one of these xtians in name who follows what's convenient.

    by the way mary was a dirty slut who got knocked up by some roman legionnaire named pantera, that's how jeebus the bastard was born not from some hilarious "immaculate conception".

  • @albokk you christian retards would still be non bathing rotten toothed stinking bastards burning each other for being "heretics" if it wasn't for the reintroduction of pagan greek learning during the renaissance which led to the liberation of people from the stranglehold of the vatican cult.

    your pope was selling indulgences to lepers and prostitutes, indulging in orgies, that's your proud heritage right there.

    google Gemistus Pletho for a start you unthinking douche.

  • @pspawnslayer your ignorance is appalling "renaissance which led to the liberation of people from the stranglehold of the vatican cult" first you ignorant piece of shit it was enlightenment that made it secular , not renaissance ,renaissance was still very very much catholic and christian so you have no point , paganism it over thatts it is done forget it about it hahaha

  • @albokk see how you conveniently dodged the point about the goan inquisition, that's what i thought.

    renaissance is "catholic" is it, is that why Pletho urged a return to the Olympian Gods?

    This ain't sunday school you moron where you can get away with stupid xtian propaganda.

    What do Plato, Socrates and Aristotle have to do with christinsanity, absolutely nothing and it was their teachings that were translated particularly plato.

    christianity is going away too in europe lol.

  • @pspawnslayer lol who gives a FUCK about pletho , plato , socrates or aristotle they were important 2000 years ago , christian inventors and scientits made europe so advanced compared to other places. christianity is going away hahaha not even you have more christians in europe than 50 years ago , christianity isnt going anywhere with 2.4 billion people , if paganism was so great why dont we see people converting back haha

  • @albokk , you do find modern pagans..... neo-pagans, wiccans, etc. its just religion.

  • @snakeyesgirl exactly!

  • We have the same structures ,all over Greece,..and they are also 5000 years old!...We call them DRAKOSPITA=DRAGON HOUSES!...The archaeologists think they were built by the Cyclops...This is really amazing!

  • the pagans style of circular construction methods remind me of atlantis. plus it lays on the meeting point of the north sea and atlantic ocean :)

  • 7:33 Aliens?

  • @jkadvices How was that aliens ? >.>

  • @SmilyFaceEquilibrium the circle thing

  • @jkadvices Yes , in Fact they now suspect those circles have to do with the solstices and equinoxes ,

    and to me , I'd have to agree that theres a possible link to aliens, :)

  • How cool is that! ahahaha : D

  • i think that... shamanism ( animism and the love of the nature ) is the only good religion....

  • i wud soo rent that place to live!

  • 60? That sounds like an auspicious number

  • im a atheist pagan with a neoshaman twist.. fuck labels and religions

  • @drugsarefunkids isn't an atheist pagan and neoshaman a label in itself not to mention a form of religion?

  • @vaughangarrick attempting to categorize myself is pointless..thats why i say f*** labels n religions

  • @drugsarefunkids You just labeled yourself. LOL

  • @bigjon1359 LOL

  • @drugsarefunkids i am also an atheist/agnostic. i was raised in a famility tradition of traditionionalist witchcraft. is there a god? i dunno. is there an after-life? i dunno. there is no evidence. what i do know is this: magick works. this is like a scientist experimenting, seeing results, and drawing conclusions. i have my evidence for magick. ive seen the evidence all my life with my own eyes and ears. thus, this is something i can believe in without reliance upon faith.

  • @drugsarefunkids I'm a Mormon Discordian Druid Mage.

  • @macaghobhain

    I'm a Mormon Discordian Druid Sorcerer. DIE, HEATHEN!!

  • @WSWarthog Now, you know that sorcery, but not magic is forbidden in the Doctrine and Covenants. And I am a heretic, but not exactly a heathen. I rarely have much to do with the Norse gods, only because of lack of time. If I was invited to an Asatruar ritual, I would love to go.

  • @drugsarefunkids

    Did you not just give yourself several labels and religions?

  • @jackskellingtonsora it was a attempt to describe myself.. to point out how stupid labels are

  • @drugsarefunkids

    But by trying to say that labels are stupid, you put labels on yourself, namely: atheist, pagan, and neoshaman.

  • @jackskellingtonsora its stupid to attempt label yourself.. thats what i wanted to point out

  • @drugsarefunkids

    I must respectfully disagree. We all put labels on ourselves everyday. Labels are one of the main things about all cultures that is pretty well universal. You put labels on yourself. I've labeled myself in various ways. We label ourselves as a certain gender, with a certain sexuality, with a certain ethnicity, with a certain race, with a certain country, with a certain religion(s), ect. Labels are all over the place, and they are the main way we live in our world.

  • @jackskellingtonsora so if i like to celebrate equinoxes and solstices and the same time chanting mantras ? does this make me a pagan-hindu? i just like to perform and show respect to what i believe is worth to from all earths history.

  • @drugsarefunkids

    Not at all. I was just saying that if you want to say that labels are bad than you shouldn't put labels on yourself.

  • @jackskellingtonsora it was oxymoron irony..

  • @drugsarefunkids

    I apologize. The humor, if it was intended as such, was lost on me. I assumed it was serious.

  • @drugsarefunkids Ok, your just a spiritual atheist lol. Some shamans are atheists lol.

  • @willwak: I, too love those things. I feel a certain serenity in the forests, near the trees and grass and mushrooms; among the birds and squirrels. I love Stonehenge (even though I've never been to it), and I love Celtic music and Celtic pendants like the Triquetra. And I am a Christian. I believe that God has given us all of these things, to enjoy, to remind us of how much he loves us. I also, do not hate women. I LOVE women. And not just because of sex, I adore them.

  • Well said Takiado :)

  • Allahu akbar

  • They will come back to nature they all ways do . Love and light all ways

  • I now feel spiritually liberated by divorcing my mind from the Middle Eastern Christian Extremists who’s Religion is of foreign Propaganda, which is not ingeniousness to our Native Pagan Heritage.

  • Paganism is Life... Humans tend to forget how we all started.. they forgot how to be peaceful with all living things... But we shall return to the great ways of Nature and Love.

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  • Everyone has a Pagan deep inside..

  • @MultiTata80 what makes you say that

  • Respond to this video...  How can you tell

  • i wonder what would have happened if Native Americans and pagans met

  • @sharpezor I believe Pagans for Europe settled in Newfoundland, maybe they did.

  • @sharpezor tpga party

  • Pagans were hobbits?

  • is there two types of pagan cause the european version has thor god of thunder and the greek version has zeus god of the thunder

  • I have a question; wat of the two is most evil? A belief system where ppl strive to be coexisting with not only life and the earth, but also other ppl as well, or a belief system that blindly follows a selfish, jealous, tyrant of a god who gives ppl a choice of either following him or be persecuted and die? I never saw no baby come from no guy's as, so how can life come from a male god?

  • @supaintendant Did you really say devil worship?? I think somebody who knows little about paganism might have brainwashed you a tad. In all the things I've seen never came across devil worship

  • @thenorsepagan do you mean for the win??

  • @Kan2209 well if we didn't live off the land pre supermarkets then what did we do? maybe I am romanticising but people are going to do die regardless we still have disease and yes there are ways to help it which technically medicines are based from plants so we still have to be greatful for it in todays society! and at least in those time people wern't greedy and blowing up buildings and who knows what else

  • @boredoutofmynut They were more greedy and burning more buildings and people than... well, than anything. There was brutal killing and murder, rape everywhere, and life was pretty much shit all the time. When you see modern crime, it is a small fraction of how brutal the world was back then. Europeans as well as other pagans sacrificed children to gods for example. I thikn you really need to rethink this, and I mean that in a friendly way. This is the golden age of humanity.

  • @Kan2209 Kan, please do tell me where you get your information? The Celtic Pagans didn't practice blood sacrifice, not saying it didn't happen in the world. In fact if you want to talk about brutal religions, the Catholic Church has been the most brutal, killing more people in less time then many religions.

  • @King Read books, and also my comments. You are attacking a strawman, europeans were practicing child sacrifice, if the celts didnt it makes no difference.

    How was the crimefighting ability in Jesus' times, or before that? Life was a horrid struggle, and only pleasant for those who had slaves, or servants. The catholics killed a lot of people, and so did pagans, whats your point? Life was ok because the catholics killed more people? That makes no sense.

  • @Kan2209 LMAO I don't need to re-think anything I am very happy in believing what I do, do you think the catholic or christian church is better today it's more fucked up then ever because all people want is power and if you look at it closely there are a lot of similarities that came from Pagans such as the yule log at christmas and easter. I believe in living off the land and following the seasons people these days believe in cutting down most of the rainforest at our own detriment

  • @boredoutofmynut Being happy in once belief has absolutely no value on it's truth, an adult should know that, that should be a prerequisit to adulthood. People these days are exactly the same as they were before, the only difference is that people today have technology etc, you suffer from a thing called "golden age syndrome", it's quite known, apparently not to you. The pagans, especially the celtics wore gold and showed off their wealth, they had tribal wars eat away their youth etc. Study.

  • HELL IS REAL AND FOREVER !!!

    spiritlessons. com/mary_k_baxter_a_divine_rev­­elation_of_hell. htm