What if ur person who wants to make it ur own way, were our ur rights in that. Sorry the flaw in socalism like anyother system of government, is that some of ur freedoms gots to be sacrafice sorry, but thats a fact.
Fantasy? I wouldn't be so sure according to the latest cutting edge research in Quantum Physics... youtube.com/watch?v=kYR_GZrGe28. Basically, the most intriguing alternate histories that you describe in your channel have happened, are happening, or will happen in alternate quantum realities. Fantastic food for thought...
and how we lose the rev war is important as well. if we lost because France didn't help then we would just be an English colony witch means THE WAR of 1812 didn't happen and France would still have Louisiana and France would not have the resources to keep fighting England. also the French revolution was inspired by the American revolution. I'm not that good at history but if the American revolution didn't happen then the geography in Europe would be different or someone else would have a rev
If the Americans didnt have French support and navy the British would have humiliated the american rebels. And Britain would have protected America as 1 of its colonies! Russia would have taken America!! Britain was the superpower of the world they had the best navy and the best armies!
@martynrobin121 Best navy but not best army, a very good one (which incidently was hindered highly by their own military statute, humiliation of Isandlawana is just one of many) but not the best. Prussians had the best officers and army. There were many insidences between "superior" ships of royal navy and US coastal clippers where smallers US vessel dominated battles due simple fact US mariners were armed with longer reaching rifles against British smooth bore muskets.
@HonkeyDolemite The Colonials were a bunch of Terroists they had poor leaders and were very unorganised they wernt even seen as a threat, It was only till the Rebels allied with the French they became a threat. The thing with the Terroists Rebels they would fire a few shots and run away and it this happend after the revolution in the war of 1812. The U.S was like the Taliban they were terroists and cowards and useless1
@martynrobin121 Funny notions that there actually are some sorts of rules or nobility in warfare. Marching up front by beat of drum against enemy fire is not warfare it is suicidal stupidity. That British STUPIDITY of military statute really kicked you in ass in WW1 when you marched against german machine guns. Following your logic Imperial Russian forces acted as TERRORIST when they employed scorched earth against Napoleon or by sending Cossack to hit and run kill attacks.
@HonkeyDolemite Notice how the British Empire won World war 1. And it wasnt just the British soldiers walking into machine gun fire was it?? The French and Germans and Turks all done the same whitch resulted in millions been exterminated in days. And yes they were terroists or insurgents that is what they would get called today.
@martynrobin121 What fine cyclops you are. Go on grab your dictionary and check about Pyrrhic victory. All the participating "empires" lost they all ceased to be any significat world powers after that war and BTW germans were capable holding British and they allies off untill arrival you know whos. Simple advices bub, word terrorism did not EXCISTED at time of revolutionary war of united states hence for it CAN NOT be used to describe US militia guerillas of that time.
@HonkeyDolemite British Empire was still world superpower they got more colonies after world war 1, BUT They were broke and in debt. And the arrival of who?? America was nothing in world war 1 if they came any late they would have missed the war the same in world war 2. And no terroists wasnt the word it was actually rebel but today we call them terroists and insurgents.
@HonkeyDolemite Look at American efforts in world war 1 it was very poor. And in world war 2 there military proved to be ineffective, U.S is just good for reosurces and supplies. In WW1 the Germans were losing, And in WW2 the Axis forces most had been destroyed by the Russains and British.
@martynrobin121 Rabid bull dogs need to be put to sleep. Dont be delusional. Germans were destroyed by Soviets who could not have done so whit out lend & lease military support from US and same goes for Brits. US military aid in example form of planes is major factor that saved your asses from nazi invasion. Whit out US Germans could never have been driven out of Africa nor invasion of Italy never had taken place and there for not operation overlord either.
@HonkeyDolemite Yes i agree with you there American supplies and resources were everything in world war 2. U.S was the place to get cheap and alot of free supplies and reosurces in both wars. But there Military didnt do shit really.
@HonkeyDolemite And the British had the Axis Alliance on the retreat in N.Africa after the Battle of Al Alamein the Axis were crushed. And without the British there would have been no western front at all. And the Russians would have liberated europe and the british would have won in N.Africa without U.S military help.
@HonkeyDolemite You do know if American MILITARY didnt come into World war 1, The German Alliance would have lost. And in World war 2 if the American MILITARY didnt come the Axis Alliance would have lost The Russains crushed most of Axis forces. However American supplies were everything in WW2 and they got raped by the British Empire and Russia.
@martynrobin121 Well with out lend & lease soviets would lost due poor logistic, sure they could manufacture tanks in urals but they did not have railway cars nor tires for truck and 80 % those came from US. Germans came pretty close knocking them out. And in case of russians could have win with out US involvement them country behind english channel would have been peoples republic of France and same would have gone for all continental countries and in short for Britain too.
@HonkeyDolemite The Soviets had man-power and they had resources whitch the Axis didnt have mainly Oil. They also had the best the Tank of World war 2 T34. And the Axis Alliance didnt come close to knocking Britain or Russia out. Yes they managed to invade Russia got stopped at Moscow,Stalingrad,ETC ETC. Most of the war was fought in Russia they destroyed the Axis Armies alone. America was just place to get resources and supplies. When did U.S have there meeting with the Enemy? 1943!
@martynrobin121 Yes they had they had tanks but with out US they did not have RADIOS in them and with out radios they are pretty ineffective also they would not have had any means to transport them on front. They could not have been driven from Urals but transported via train and by coinsidence majority of railway cars for that use came from US. Whit out US involvement Soviets would have lost due poor logistics. Man power does not count with out logisitcs backin it up.
@martynrobin121 the US military did shit in both wars?!? I agree with u moslty in ww1. All we really did was help end the war sooner. And u say that our military was ineffective in WW2?!?!?! I strongly disagree with you on that. US troops spear headed the assault on D-day and untill the war ended. Every heard of the battle of the buldge? that is just one example. Also, we were also fighting Japan at the same time!!!!
@TankIV U.S troops in the war 1942 in N.Africa they saw they first battles 1943 and were basically humiliated. The British had defeated the Axis at the Battle of Al Alamein, Rommel tried 5 counter attacks but they all failed and the Axis were on full-retreat to Tunisia.(Whitch U.S and British forces had arrived) Now the British could drive the Axis out of N.Africa once and for all the Axis were crushed, But they still managed to humiliate the Americans whitch the British were going crazy about.
@TankIV U.S main battles againt the Axis 1943, When the Axis had been destroyed in Russia, Stalingrad,Moscow,Kursk,etc etc. And Britain had the Axis on the run in Africa. Yes without the U.S the British couldnt have invaded Italy and Western Europe. By 1944 when the Allies invaded Normandy it was mostly kids and old men and civilians been forced to fight. Look it up Russia destroyed the Axis.
@TankIV Then you might say well the U.S defeated the Japs and the it was the U.S who created the A-Bomb. But it was Actually experts and scientists from all over the world in the A-Bomb project but it was made in America and they only had 2. The British fought the Japs in India and Burma and the Russains invaded occupied China with over millions men whitch was key to Japs surrender even the U.S say so. First Nuke on Japan just made them angry.
@martynrobin121 But our efforts in europe were effective. We didnt even have to help out in Europe. Also, the british fought the japs in india because india was one of the british's territories. They didnt fight there to help us out. also, the japs were ready to fight to the death. They wanted to fight to the death but to kill as many of our soldiers as possible. We would have eventually win and destroy japan far more worse than we really did. I dont think they would mind russians in it.
@TankIV American efforts were good in western europe against a poor german army.(They still struggled like hell against Hitler Youth and a poor german army with no luftwaffe and air-support. And fought the japs because they were sly and invaded british colonies knowing the British was at war and wouldn be able to defend them.
@TankIV And yes America would have defeated Japan they were hardly like the German and Italians in warfare. But U.S.A still needed the British fighting the japs in Asia and the Russains to invade China with over a millions men whitch by the U.S was main key into Jap surrender.
@TankIV The Allies only had 2 A-Bombs and when the first one hit Japan it didnt mae the Japs scared and begging to surrender, It just made them angry. Then Russia declared war on Japan had invade occupied China with a hudge force. And with the second A-bomb dropped the Japs knew they faced America,Russia,Britain and the Allies A-Bombs, But after the second A-bomb dropped the Allies had no more and couldnt make any for months and they were scared to invade japan.
@TankIV Why is it the Americans think they are heroes of world war 1 and 2 and that they were the key to victory?? It was American supplies and resources whitch were key to defeat of the Axis Alliance but there Military wasnt needed, Unless for to help the British invade Italy and France and stop the spread of the Russian Communists who Churchill thought would turn against them after the war.
@martynrobin121 wow lol. I would love for you to say that to a veteran. Tell him that he wasnt a hero and his buddys that he fought along side him and alot who died didnt do anything. And we didnt just help the invasion of france btw. We spear headed it. Im not the kind of americans who say "We saved your asses" im just saying that our efforts in WW2 were usefull and affective. I doubt the british could have done it alone on the western front by themselves.
@TankIV How were they heroes?? Does killing people and playing part in extermination make you a heroe?? And it was the British who spear headed France they made the break out from Normandy and stopped the S.S and reinforements. And the British defeated the Axis and the Battle of Al Alamein and had the Axis on retreat they humiliated Rommels counter attacks in N.Africa.
@martynrobin121 Killing inncoent ppl? More like liberating ppl. And it was the Americans who spear headed the campaign through France. Without our support with (military) the nazis victory would have been inevitable. The russians were getting crushed at the start of hitlers campaign of Russia. The main reason for russian victory was its winter. Once the germans had to hunker down the russians then massed up and attacked. You are just ungrateful for the US playing a huge part
@TankIV It was the British Forces who spear headed at France they stopped the S.S divisions and reinforcements at Caen, British Forces made the breakout from Normandy. And Russia was never crushed they were humiliated 1941-2 but never crushed they stopped the Axis at Moscow 1941, Stalingrad 1942 and then defeated the Axis Forces alone 1943 Kursk biggest tank battle of the war and most bloodiest battles of the war. U.S played a small part.
@TankIV U.S came into the war when the Axis were losing!! British forces in N.Africa had defeated the Axis forces at the battle of Al Alamein and were humiliating Rommel counter attacks. The Axis in Russia were been defeated at Stalingrad. U.S saw they first battles the Axis 1943 in Tunisa and were humiliated by the Italians and French. How did U.S play a hudge part?? DONT YOU MEAN U.S RESOURCES PLAYED A HUDGE PART??
@martynrobin121 Although more US troops landed on D DAY, then british and faced the most opposition. This was in Europe. And we didnt need help because we were not under attack from the Nazis. ITs the other way around. And now your saying that you did a big portion of help in the Pacific? who the hell do you think you are. And the Russians were badly humiliated, so were the US and british in battles. US in africa, british at dunkurk, russians at home.
@TankIV and you say that we MIGHT have done more work in the pacific. WE DID. The british fought the japs in India to keep it under british control. I dont recall and major british offensives in asia. We had to hop from island to island facing heavy resistance. Also, we had troops stationed in the philippines before too. And im not trying to say that we did more work in Europe than any other european nation. without our resources and MANPOWER you would have been beaten eventually.
@TankIV The British fought the Japs in the Pacific also, But they couldnt fight a war in the Pacific as there forces and resources overstretched in Europe and Africa,Asia etc etc. The British had to surrender in Singapore whitch was the biggest humiliation in British history, But they kept fighting Malaya and there Forces in India and Burma and even China. And U.S surrendered in Phillippines over 85k men! And your very wrong U.S resources were everything there MILITARY WASNT!!
@TankIV When America came into the war the Axis Alliance was losing! If U.S Military didnt come into the war the British would have won in Africa and the Russains in Europe.
@TankIV Yes i agree there was more Americans on D-Day than British, But it was the British Forces who stopped the S.S and other reinforements at Caen,And made the breakout from Normandy the British took the North and U.S the South. And the Nazis couldnt attack America they were losing in both Russia and Africa. And i said U.S done most of the work in the Pacific, The British fought Malaya and Asia and the Russains invaded China, Whitch was key to Japans surrender 1945.
@martynrobin121 another thing, without the US and British putting pressure on the western front the germans would have had more resources and troops to fight the russians.
@TankIV My point is, If American Forces didnt come into the war the Axis Alliance would have lost anyway that is FACT! 1940 The Axis Alliance were defeated in the Battle of Britain they couldnt invade Britain!! 1941-2 Axis Alliance invade Russia and are defeated at Moscow! British forces defeated Axis in battle of Al Alamein and humiliate Rommels counter attack, 1943 The Axis defeated at Stalingrad and Kursk on full advance to Berlin. And U.S & British B.E.F troops arrive Tunisia.
@martynrobin121 I am certainly not very wrong about the strength of my countrys military in WW2. Would you rather us not helping out at all? What you should say is that we had the MAN POWER and resources to fight. The war would have been a stalemate without us. The Germans could have rebuilt their army. also, american pilots were sent to aid the british in the battle of britain. Also, our troops were there just incase of an invasion.
@TankIV America Military in world war 2, Played a very small part. However American Resources and supplies did play a hudge part. And the pilots that came from America 1940 were volunteers! U.S didnt want to send them! As they knew the war would spread to U.S and they would need there best pilots etc etc. And" your troops were there just incase of an invasion"?? YOUR TROOPS WERE IN AMERICA ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PLANET NOT BRITAIN!!!
@martynrobin121 I have high respect for the british because they were in the war from begining to end. We came in late. But our troops did WAY more than you think. We couldnt do it on our own neither could you guys. Just because we came in late doesnt mean we didnt do anything. We helped with tremendous effort and pushed the germans back with you guys. Imagine how long the war would have been without us....oh wait, thats right....you have no respect for us and say we didnt do shit.
@TankIV Yes i agree with you America efforts were great, But they didnt win the war as most Americans have been would think! In N.Africa at the battle of Al Alamein the British defeated Axis, Rommel then tried 5 counter attacks against Montys 8th Army they were humiliated and Axis on full retreat with the R.A.F crushing there every move they were going straight into a trap as American and British troops arrived in Tunisa 1943 to finish the Axis off once and for all in N.Africa.
@TankIV North Africa was a British victory they done all of the work, America helped drive the British drive the Axis out for good 1943. If America didnt come into the war. Britain would have never invaded Italy or Western Europe because they didnt have the man-power and the resources. But the British would have won in N.Africa.
@martynrobin12 After arguing with many, we concluded that it wasnt just one nation but a bunch all aimed on taking down hitlers vast army. you on the other hand have no damn idea what we did in ww2 besides for resources. Your the one who says US troops are not heros in WW2...that just shows how one sided your opinion is. You prob wish that the US didnt come in ww2 and hope that it was solely a European war.
@TankIV Because alot of Americans think they won world war 2 alone and before they came in the war Britain and Russia were losing and going to lose. But 1940 British R.A.F defeated the Luftwaffe and Hitlers invasion plans operation sea lion couldnt even get passed the first stage the invasion couldnt do ahead the British had the power over Air and Sea. 1941 Moscow the Axis were defeated.
@martynrobin121 in WW2 we were a key ally to have. We may have not been in ww2 as long or done more to stop the nazis as the british and russia but i think history would be quite different without us
@TankIV History would be very different if the Americans didnt join the British in the West, The Russains would have defeated the Axis and liberated Europe, And Communists goverments would appear all over Europe with the support from Russia, They would have nazis scientists and experts and they would get to the moon first and become the new superpower of the world. The British would have won in N.Africa but Russia would have got all the glory and spoils of war.
What you say is completely stupid. Although Nazi Germany suffered a couple defeats in Russia they would have won anyway. A two front war was what caught up with Hitler and the rest of them. If the United States had not joined the war -Europe would have most likely fallen under Hitlers control.
The Nazi's had superior technological advancement and the only reason Russia lost so many while fighting was because their basic strategy was charge. They charged against machine guns.
@ClassicMusicOnly HA HA Your dumb! 1942 N.Africa British forces defeated the Axis at Al Alamein and humiliated Rommels counter attacks and the Axis are crushed and ran away to Tunisia! After the battle of Kursk 1943, The Russains were on full advance to Berlin and the Axis would never advance again in the East. America saw its first action 1943 when the Axis were crushed losing in the East to Russia and in the West to Britain!
Well, I must admit I was just proved wrong - horribly. But I still hold my point that if Nazi Germany did not fight two fronts they would have most likely won the war against Britain, France and later the US. After some research the Battle of Kursk seems to be the biggest fail of Nazi Germany including Stalingrad.
@ClassicMusicOnly The Axis Alliance 1940 had been defeated in the battle of britain, And Hitlers invasion couldnt go ahead. Hitler then turned to invade Russia for resources and to eliminate communism, But the Axis advance was stopped near moscow 1941, The Axis were always fighting a war on two fronts and they were losing on both sides when American forces came into the war. West-Al Alamein,1942 and East,Stalingrad,Kursk 1943. And Kursk was the biggest tank battle in the war.
@ClassicMusicOnly Kursk was the biggest defeat for Hitler and the Axis, Hitler had been very cautious about the battle he knew it would decide the war, He had his best tanks Tiger, and the new Panther and the Russain T-34 proved to be the best tank of all, And the Russains with better tanks and superior numbers defeated the Axis. And when U.S and U.K knew the Russains were on full advance to Berlin they knew a bigger threat could take over.
@ClassicMusicOnly Your really stupid!, If America didnt come into WW2 the British would have won in Africa and the Russians in Europe that is FACT! The Axis were fighting a war on both fronts! Western Front was North Africa and the Eastern Front was Russia. The Brtish defeated the Axis in N.Africa 1943, Al-Alamein and the Axis were crushed and running away! In Russia after Kursk the Russians were on full advance to Berlin. What could the Axis have done, They were defeated in Africa and Russia!
@ClassicMusicOnly Please tell me what the Axis could have done to win? Your a typical brainwash America who thinks they saved everybody and won the war, They were very poor accept fight the Japs!
@TankIV If U.S.A didnt join the world Russia would be the new superpower of the world, They would have the best technology and weapons and tanks. Europe would be took over by Communist goverments. If America didnt join the war, The British wouldnt have invaded Normandy and opened a western Front.
@TankIV You say the war would have went on alot longer how?? By 1943 after the battle of Kursk in the Eastern Front the Axis were on rethreat and the Russains on full advance to Berlin the Axis couldnt do nothing to stop them. After battle of Al Alamein 1942 Rommel and the Germans and Italians were defeated and there Counter attacks humiliated. Its only Japan that would have been the problem and they were shit scared of the Russains.
@martynrobin121 It is idiotic to believe that one nation alone took on the nazis. most americans actually do know what really happened. The ones who say america alone know nothing of ww2. And my bad, i ment that some of our our pilots had the courage to go overseas and help out anyways possible. But it was encouraged that some of them go. When the US came into the war we brought alot of man power. It would be harder if britain alone of america alone to push the nazi back in the western front.
@martynrobin121 And i give 100% to the British for beating the Nazi is africa. Why the US was so big in WW2 was that we helped end the Nazi regime. The british stoped the nazi advance in the west with little support if the US besides resources. i think the only thing we disagree on is if the Russians could have done it without allies advancing in the West. Hitler then could focus more troops in the east. The western allies also could have had the opportunity to take berlin
@TankIV And yes the war was an Allied Victory but if any country played a bigger part it was Russia. And actually the war wouldnt have lasted for that long by 1943 the Russians had crushed the Axis forces and were on full advance to berlin, And in North Africa the British had defeated Rommel and the Axis Alliance and the Americans were just coming to help push the Axis out,
@martynrobin121 It was the effort of not only the US, not only the british, and not only the Russians but all the allied nations. Just because we came in the last year doesnt mean we didnt do shit. Imagine how long the war would have lasted without us? Once we came in we gave the allies the opportunity to get a foot hold in France and then push on to make the war end. In the US, we worked non stop to help out.
@TankIV And when U.S forces saw there first battles against the Germans and Italians 1943, The years the Axis were been defeated. The Russia had defeated them at Moscow,Stalingrad,Kursk and the British ahd defeated the Axis at Al Alamein and humiliated Rommels counter attacks, The Axis were losing the war but American supplies and resources were everything and to help the British invade Europe and stop the Russian Communists. STOP THE SPREAD OF COMMUNISM.
@martynrobin121 Also, with the A bomb, the japs knew we could destroy a city with one drop of a bomb. You are right about the FIRST bomb being droped to anger them but the second got them to surrender.
@TheSaboteur97 I agree with you man, I don't think people really think about what America has really done for the world. The world without America would be less safe, more poverty stricken, and filled with famine and disease. The United States is .responsible for alot of vaccines, world safety, and wealth all around the world.
@06hurdwp I have lots of suggestions to make right now so it will take time, but one day I might do that and of course then I'll let you know :) you're very kind, thanks :)!
@Mindtfreak there was a similar event in thid alternate world which Germany won (that why I mention "occupied russia") but it was much before 2011 and not the same. Thank you for watching :)
@gamepro217 I "just sent you a message explaining that althought I do not know the title too. When the flag appears the anthem merges first the "Marsellaise" then East German "Auferstanden aus ruinen" and finally "The Internationalle" in english, a very British english lol :). And remember. Things do not have to be this way, you can always make your own anwers to my video "An Idea for you" :)
What if ur person who wants to make it ur own way, were our ur rights in that. Sorry the flaw in socalism like anyother system of government, is that some of ur freedoms gots to be sacrafice sorry, but thats a fact.
rfe8nn2 1 month ago
What the hell is the song name? I've been looking for this song for awhile.
JMalore 1 month ago
@JMalore its the red alert march :)
alternatehistorypt 1 month ago
@alternatehistorypt Thanks man, I love you.
JMalore 1 month ago
Fantasy? I wouldn't be so sure according to the latest cutting edge research in Quantum Physics... youtube.com/watch?v=kYR_GZrGe28. Basically, the most intriguing alternate histories that you describe in your channel have happened, are happening, or will happen in alternate quantum realities. Fantastic food for thought...
GetInstantAccess 2 months ago
@GetInstantAccess thanks :)
alternatehistorypt 2 months ago
I feel like "after the 'great atomic war'" the world would probably be past the verge of total destruction
bnallek 3 months ago
actually, if america cooperates with the world powers, the world would have a one world DEMOCRATIC government.
president808 4 months ago
the red alert 3 music :p
kingrc69 5 months ago
do you mean the cold war? the revolutionary war was with Washington against the English
MegaTyphon 6 months ago
why u dishen on our time 2010?
mgcize 8 months ago
@mgcize it was when I made the video :)
alternatehistorypt 8 months ago
@alternatehistorypt lol i know i wanted to see if you would respond and it was for laughs. Nice video :)
mgcize 8 months ago
and how we lose the rev war is important as well. if we lost because France didn't help then we would just be an English colony witch means THE WAR of 1812 didn't happen and France would still have Louisiana and France would not have the resources to keep fighting England. also the French revolution was inspired by the American revolution. I'm not that good at history but if the American revolution didn't happen then the geography in Europe would be different or someone else would have a rev
bagent1334 8 months ago
so who invented standard parts in your history? I mean you need screws to build a nuclear bomb
bagent1334 8 months ago in playlist National songs
@bagent1334 don't know, but I guess someone lol :)
alternatehistorypt 8 months ago
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are you left wing or socialist
MrScruffles10 8 months ago
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MrScruffles10 8 months ago
Well that seem incredibly unrealistic
SplinterCelll38 1 year ago
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BluLetters 1 year ago
If the Americans didnt have French support and navy the British would have humiliated the american rebels. And Britain would have protected America as 1 of its colonies! Russia would have taken America!! Britain was the superpower of the world they had the best navy and the best armies!
martynrobin121 1 year ago
@martynrobin121 Best navy but not best army, a very good one (which incidently was hindered highly by their own military statute, humiliation of Isandlawana is just one of many) but not the best. Prussians had the best officers and army. There were many insidences between "superior" ships of royal navy and US coastal clippers where smallers US vessel dominated battles due simple fact US mariners were armed with longer reaching rifles against British smooth bore muskets.
HonkeyDolemite 1 year ago
@HonkeyDolemite The Colonials were a bunch of Terroists they had poor leaders and were very unorganised they wernt even seen as a threat, It was only till the Rebels allied with the French they became a threat. The thing with the Terroists Rebels they would fire a few shots and run away and it this happend after the revolution in the war of 1812. The U.S was like the Taliban they were terroists and cowards and useless1
martynrobin121 1 year ago
@martynrobin121 Funny notions that there actually are some sorts of rules or nobility in warfare. Marching up front by beat of drum against enemy fire is not warfare it is suicidal stupidity. That British STUPIDITY of military statute really kicked you in ass in WW1 when you marched against german machine guns. Following your logic Imperial Russian forces acted as TERRORIST when they employed scorched earth against Napoleon or by sending Cossack to hit and run kill attacks.
HonkeyDolemite 1 year ago
@HonkeyDolemite Notice how the British Empire won World war 1. And it wasnt just the British soldiers walking into machine gun fire was it?? The French and Germans and Turks all done the same whitch resulted in millions been exterminated in days. And yes they were terroists or insurgents that is what they would get called today.
martynrobin121 1 year ago
@martynrobin121 What fine cyclops you are. Go on grab your dictionary and check about Pyrrhic victory. All the participating "empires" lost they all ceased to be any significat world powers after that war and BTW germans were capable holding British and they allies off untill arrival you know whos. Simple advices bub, word terrorism did not EXCISTED at time of revolutionary war of united states hence for it CAN NOT be used to describe US militia guerillas of that time.
HonkeyDolemite 1 year ago
@HonkeyDolemite British Empire was still world superpower they got more colonies after world war 1, BUT They were broke and in debt. And the arrival of who?? America was nothing in world war 1 if they came any late they would have missed the war the same in world war 2. And no terroists wasnt the word it was actually rebel but today we call them terroists and insurgents.
martynrobin121 1 year ago
@HonkeyDolemite Look at American efforts in world war 1 it was very poor. And in world war 2 there military proved to be ineffective, U.S is just good for reosurces and supplies. In WW1 the Germans were losing, And in WW2 the Axis forces most had been destroyed by the Russains and British.
martynrobin121 1 year ago
@martynrobin121 Rabid bull dogs need to be put to sleep. Dont be delusional. Germans were destroyed by Soviets who could not have done so whit out lend & lease military support from US and same goes for Brits. US military aid in example form of planes is major factor that saved your asses from nazi invasion. Whit out US Germans could never have been driven out of Africa nor invasion of Italy never had taken place and there for not operation overlord either.
HonkeyDolemite 1 year ago
@HonkeyDolemite Yes i agree with you there American supplies and resources were everything in world war 2. U.S was the place to get cheap and alot of free supplies and reosurces in both wars. But there Military didnt do shit really.
martynrobin121 1 year ago
@HonkeyDolemite And the British had the Axis Alliance on the retreat in N.Africa after the Battle of Al Alamein the Axis were crushed. And without the British there would have been no western front at all. And the Russians would have liberated europe and the british would have won in N.Africa without U.S military help.
martynrobin121 1 year ago
@HonkeyDolemite You do know if American MILITARY didnt come into World war 1, The German Alliance would have lost. And in World war 2 if the American MILITARY didnt come the Axis Alliance would have lost The Russains crushed most of Axis forces. However American supplies were everything in WW2 and they got raped by the British Empire and Russia.
martynrobin121 1 year ago
@martynrobin121 Well with out lend & lease soviets would lost due poor logistic, sure they could manufacture tanks in urals but they did not have railway cars nor tires for truck and 80 % those came from US. Germans came pretty close knocking them out. And in case of russians could have win with out US involvement them country behind english channel would have been peoples republic of France and same would have gone for all continental countries and in short for Britain too.
HonkeyDolemite 1 year ago
@HonkeyDolemite The Soviets had man-power and they had resources whitch the Axis didnt have mainly Oil. They also had the best the Tank of World war 2 T34. And the Axis Alliance didnt come close to knocking Britain or Russia out. Yes they managed to invade Russia got stopped at Moscow,Stalingrad,ETC ETC. Most of the war was fought in Russia they destroyed the Axis Armies alone. America was just place to get resources and supplies. When did U.S have there meeting with the Enemy? 1943!
martynrobin121 1 year ago
@martynrobin121 Yes they had they had tanks but with out US they did not have RADIOS in them and with out radios they are pretty ineffective also they would not have had any means to transport them on front. They could not have been driven from Urals but transported via train and by coinsidence majority of railway cars for that use came from US. Whit out US involvement Soviets would have lost due poor logistics. Man power does not count with out logisitcs backin it up.
HonkeyDolemite 1 year ago
@martynrobin121 the US military did shit in both wars?!? I agree with u moslty in ww1. All we really did was help end the war sooner. And u say that our military was ineffective in WW2?!?!?! I strongly disagree with you on that. US troops spear headed the assault on D-day and untill the war ended. Every heard of the battle of the buldge? that is just one example. Also, we were also fighting Japan at the same time!!!!
TankIV 1 year ago
@TankIV U.S troops in the war 1942 in N.Africa they saw they first battles 1943 and were basically humiliated. The British had defeated the Axis at the Battle of Al Alamein, Rommel tried 5 counter attacks but they all failed and the Axis were on full-retreat to Tunisia.(Whitch U.S and British forces had arrived) Now the British could drive the Axis out of N.Africa once and for all the Axis were crushed, But they still managed to humiliate the Americans whitch the British were going crazy about.
martynrobin121 1 year ago
@TankIV U.S main battles againt the Axis 1943, When the Axis had been destroyed in Russia, Stalingrad,Moscow,Kursk,etc etc. And Britain had the Axis on the run in Africa. Yes without the U.S the British couldnt have invaded Italy and Western Europe. By 1944 when the Allies invaded Normandy it was mostly kids and old men and civilians been forced to fight. Look it up Russia destroyed the Axis.
martynrobin121 1 year ago
@TankIV Then you might say well the U.S defeated the Japs and the it was the U.S who created the A-Bomb. But it was Actually experts and scientists from all over the world in the A-Bomb project but it was made in America and they only had 2. The British fought the Japs in India and Burma and the Russains invaded occupied China with over millions men whitch was key to Japs surrender even the U.S say so. First Nuke on Japan just made them angry.
martynrobin121 1 year ago
@martynrobin121 But our efforts in europe were effective. We didnt even have to help out in Europe. Also, the british fought the japs in india because india was one of the british's territories. They didnt fight there to help us out. also, the japs were ready to fight to the death. They wanted to fight to the death but to kill as many of our soldiers as possible. We would have eventually win and destroy japan far more worse than we really did. I dont think they would mind russians in it.
TankIV 1 year ago
@TankIV American efforts were good in western europe against a poor german army.(They still struggled like hell against Hitler Youth and a poor german army with no luftwaffe and air-support. And fought the japs because they were sly and invaded british colonies knowing the British was at war and wouldn be able to defend them.
martynrobin121 1 year ago
@TankIV And yes America would have defeated Japan they were hardly like the German and Italians in warfare. But U.S.A still needed the British fighting the japs in Asia and the Russains to invade China with over a millions men whitch by the U.S was main key into Jap surrender.
martynrobin121 1 year ago
@TankIV The Allies only had 2 A-Bombs and when the first one hit Japan it didnt mae the Japs scared and begging to surrender, It just made them angry. Then Russia declared war on Japan had invade occupied China with a hudge force. And with the second A-bomb dropped the Japs knew they faced America,Russia,Britain and the Allies A-Bombs, But after the second A-bomb dropped the Allies had no more and couldnt make any for months and they were scared to invade japan.
martynrobin121 1 year ago
@TankIV Why is it the Americans think they are heroes of world war 1 and 2 and that they were the key to victory?? It was American supplies and resources whitch were key to defeat of the Axis Alliance but there Military wasnt needed, Unless for to help the British invade Italy and France and stop the spread of the Russian Communists who Churchill thought would turn against them after the war.
martynrobin121 1 year ago
@martynrobin121 wow lol. I would love for you to say that to a veteran. Tell him that he wasnt a hero and his buddys that he fought along side him and alot who died didnt do anything. And we didnt just help the invasion of france btw. We spear headed it. Im not the kind of americans who say "We saved your asses" im just saying that our efforts in WW2 were usefull and affective. I doubt the british could have done it alone on the western front by themselves.
TankIV 1 year ago
@TankIV How were they heroes?? Does killing people and playing part in extermination make you a heroe?? And it was the British who spear headed France they made the break out from Normandy and stopped the S.S and reinforements. And the British defeated the Axis and the Battle of Al Alamein and had the Axis on retreat they humiliated Rommels counter attacks in N.Africa.
martynrobin121 1 year ago
@martynrobin121 Killing inncoent ppl? More like liberating ppl. And it was the Americans who spear headed the campaign through France. Without our support with (military) the nazis victory would have been inevitable. The russians were getting crushed at the start of hitlers campaign of Russia. The main reason for russian victory was its winter. Once the germans had to hunker down the russians then massed up and attacked. You are just ungrateful for the US playing a huge part
TankIV 1 year ago
@TankIV It was the British Forces who spear headed at France they stopped the S.S divisions and reinforcements at Caen, British Forces made the breakout from Normandy. And Russia was never crushed they were humiliated 1941-2 but never crushed they stopped the Axis at Moscow 1941, Stalingrad 1942 and then defeated the Axis Forces alone 1943 Kursk biggest tank battle of the war and most bloodiest battles of the war. U.S played a small part.
martynrobin121 1 year ago
@TankIV U.S came into the war when the Axis were losing!! British forces in N.Africa had defeated the Axis forces at the battle of Al Alamein and were humiliating Rommel counter attacks. The Axis in Russia were been defeated at Stalingrad. U.S saw they first battles the Axis 1943 in Tunisa and were humiliated by the Italians and French. How did U.S play a hudge part?? DONT YOU MEAN U.S RESOURCES PLAYED A HUDGE PART??
martynrobin121 1 year ago
@martynrobin121 Although more US troops landed on D DAY, then british and faced the most opposition. This was in Europe. And we didnt need help because we were not under attack from the Nazis. ITs the other way around. And now your saying that you did a big portion of help in the Pacific? who the hell do you think you are. And the Russians were badly humiliated, so were the US and british in battles. US in africa, british at dunkurk, russians at home.
TankIV 11 months ago
@TankIV and you say that we MIGHT have done more work in the pacific. WE DID. The british fought the japs in India to keep it under british control. I dont recall and major british offensives in asia. We had to hop from island to island facing heavy resistance. Also, we had troops stationed in the philippines before too. And im not trying to say that we did more work in Europe than any other european nation. without our resources and MANPOWER you would have been beaten eventually.
TankIV 11 months ago
@TankIV The British fought the Japs in the Pacific also, But they couldnt fight a war in the Pacific as there forces and resources overstretched in Europe and Africa,Asia etc etc. The British had to surrender in Singapore whitch was the biggest humiliation in British history, But they kept fighting Malaya and there Forces in India and Burma and even China. And U.S surrendered in Phillippines over 85k men! And your very wrong U.S resources were everything there MILITARY WASNT!!
martynrobin121 11 months ago
@TankIV When America came into the war the Axis Alliance was losing! If U.S Military didnt come into the war the British would have won in Africa and the Russains in Europe.
martynrobin121 11 months ago
@TankIV Yes i agree there was more Americans on D-Day than British, But it was the British Forces who stopped the S.S and other reinforements at Caen,And made the breakout from Normandy the British took the North and U.S the South. And the Nazis couldnt attack America they were losing in both Russia and Africa. And i said U.S done most of the work in the Pacific, The British fought Malaya and Asia and the Russains invaded China, Whitch was key to Japans surrender 1945.
martynrobin121 11 months ago
@TankIV The U.S might have done more than half the work against the Japs but they still needed the Russain help and the British.
martynrobin121 1 year ago
@martynrobin121 another thing, without the US and British putting pressure on the western front the germans would have had more resources and troops to fight the russians.
TankIV 11 months ago
@TankIV My point is, If American Forces didnt come into the war the Axis Alliance would have lost anyway that is FACT! 1940 The Axis Alliance were defeated in the Battle of Britain they couldnt invade Britain!! 1941-2 Axis Alliance invade Russia and are defeated at Moscow! British forces defeated Axis in battle of Al Alamein and humiliate Rommels counter attack, 1943 The Axis defeated at Stalingrad and Kursk on full advance to Berlin. And U.S & British B.E.F troops arrive Tunisia.
martynrobin121 11 months ago
@martynrobin121 I am certainly not very wrong about the strength of my countrys military in WW2. Would you rather us not helping out at all? What you should say is that we had the MAN POWER and resources to fight. The war would have been a stalemate without us. The Germans could have rebuilt their army. also, american pilots were sent to aid the british in the battle of britain. Also, our troops were there just incase of an invasion.
TankIV 11 months ago
@TankIV America Military in world war 2, Played a very small part. However American Resources and supplies did play a hudge part. And the pilots that came from America 1940 were volunteers! U.S didnt want to send them! As they knew the war would spread to U.S and they would need there best pilots etc etc. And" your troops were there just incase of an invasion"?? YOUR TROOPS WERE IN AMERICA ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PLANET NOT BRITAIN!!!
martynrobin121 11 months ago
@martynrobin121 I have high respect for the british because they were in the war from begining to end. We came in late. But our troops did WAY more than you think. We couldnt do it on our own neither could you guys. Just because we came in late doesnt mean we didnt do anything. We helped with tremendous effort and pushed the germans back with you guys. Imagine how long the war would have been without us....oh wait, thats right....you have no respect for us and say we didnt do shit.
TankIV 11 months ago
@TankIV Yes i agree with you America efforts were great, But they didnt win the war as most Americans have been would think! In N.Africa at the battle of Al Alamein the British defeated Axis, Rommel then tried 5 counter attacks against Montys 8th Army they were humiliated and Axis on full retreat with the R.A.F crushing there every move they were going straight into a trap as American and British troops arrived in Tunisa 1943 to finish the Axis off once and for all in N.Africa.
martynrobin121 11 months ago
@TankIV North Africa was a British victory they done all of the work, America helped drive the British drive the Axis out for good 1943. If America didnt come into the war. Britain would have never invaded Italy or Western Europe because they didnt have the man-power and the resources. But the British would have won in N.Africa.
martynrobin121 11 months ago
@martynrobin12 After arguing with many, we concluded that it wasnt just one nation but a bunch all aimed on taking down hitlers vast army. you on the other hand have no damn idea what we did in ww2 besides for resources. Your the one who says US troops are not heros in WW2...that just shows how one sided your opinion is. You prob wish that the US didnt come in ww2 and hope that it was solely a European war.
TankIV 11 months ago
@TankIV Because alot of Americans think they won world war 2 alone and before they came in the war Britain and Russia were losing and going to lose. But 1940 British R.A.F defeated the Luftwaffe and Hitlers invasion plans operation sea lion couldnt even get passed the first stage the invasion couldnt do ahead the British had the power over Air and Sea. 1941 Moscow the Axis were defeated.
martynrobin121 11 months ago
@martynrobin121 in WW2 we were a key ally to have. We may have not been in ww2 as long or done more to stop the nazis as the british and russia but i think history would be quite different without us
TankIV 11 months ago
@TankIV History would be very different if the Americans didnt join the British in the West, The Russains would have defeated the Axis and liberated Europe, And Communists goverments would appear all over Europe with the support from Russia, They would have nazis scientists and experts and they would get to the moon first and become the new superpower of the world. The British would have won in N.Africa but Russia would have got all the glory and spoils of war.
martynrobin121 11 months ago
@martynrobin121 exactly what would have happened. well put
TankIV 11 months ago
@martynrobin121
What you say is completely stupid. Although Nazi Germany suffered a couple defeats in Russia they would have won anyway. A two front war was what caught up with Hitler and the rest of them. If the United States had not joined the war -Europe would have most likely fallen under Hitlers control.
The Nazi's had superior technological advancement and the only reason Russia lost so many while fighting was because their basic strategy was charge. They charged against machine guns.
ClassicMusicOnly 11 months ago
@ClassicMusicOnly HA HA Your dumb! 1942 N.Africa British forces defeated the Axis at Al Alamein and humiliated Rommels counter attacks and the Axis are crushed and ran away to Tunisia! After the battle of Kursk 1943, The Russains were on full advance to Berlin and the Axis would never advance again in the East. America saw its first action 1943 when the Axis were crushed losing in the East to Russia and in the West to Britain!
martynrobin121 11 months ago
@martynrobin121
Well, I must admit I was just proved wrong - horribly. But I still hold my point that if Nazi Germany did not fight two fronts they would have most likely won the war against Britain, France and later the US. After some research the Battle of Kursk seems to be the biggest fail of Nazi Germany including Stalingrad.
ClassicMusicOnly 11 months ago
@ClassicMusicOnly The Axis Alliance 1940 had been defeated in the battle of britain, And Hitlers invasion couldnt go ahead. Hitler then turned to invade Russia for resources and to eliminate communism, But the Axis advance was stopped near moscow 1941, The Axis were always fighting a war on two fronts and they were losing on both sides when American forces came into the war. West-Al Alamein,1942 and East,Stalingrad,Kursk 1943. And Kursk was the biggest tank battle in the war.
martynrobin121 11 months ago
@ClassicMusicOnly Kursk was the biggest defeat for Hitler and the Axis, Hitler had been very cautious about the battle he knew it would decide the war, He had his best tanks Tiger, and the new Panther and the Russain T-34 proved to be the best tank of all, And the Russains with better tanks and superior numbers defeated the Axis. And when U.S and U.K knew the Russains were on full advance to Berlin they knew a bigger threat could take over.
martynrobin121 11 months ago
@ClassicMusicOnly Your really stupid!, If America didnt come into WW2 the British would have won in Africa and the Russians in Europe that is FACT! The Axis were fighting a war on both fronts! Western Front was North Africa and the Eastern Front was Russia. The Brtish defeated the Axis in N.Africa 1943, Al-Alamein and the Axis were crushed and running away! In Russia after Kursk the Russians were on full advance to Berlin. What could the Axis have done, They were defeated in Africa and Russia!
martynrobin121 11 months ago
@ClassicMusicOnly Please tell me what the Axis could have done to win? Your a typical brainwash America who thinks they saved everybody and won the war, They were very poor accept fight the Japs!
martynrobin121 11 months ago
@TankIV If U.S.A didnt join the world Russia would be the new superpower of the world, They would have the best technology and weapons and tanks. Europe would be took over by Communist goverments. If America didnt join the war, The British wouldnt have invaded Normandy and opened a western Front.
martynrobin121 11 months ago
@TankIV You say the war would have went on alot longer how?? By 1943 after the battle of Kursk in the Eastern Front the Axis were on rethreat and the Russains on full advance to Berlin the Axis couldnt do nothing to stop them. After battle of Al Alamein 1942 Rommel and the Germans and Italians were defeated and there Counter attacks humiliated. Its only Japan that would have been the problem and they were shit scared of the Russains.
martynrobin121 11 months ago
@martynrobin121 It is idiotic to believe that one nation alone took on the nazis. most americans actually do know what really happened. The ones who say america alone know nothing of ww2. And my bad, i ment that some of our our pilots had the courage to go overseas and help out anyways possible. But it was encouraged that some of them go. When the US came into the war we brought alot of man power. It would be harder if britain alone of america alone to push the nazi back in the western front.
TankIV 11 months ago
@martynrobin121 And i give 100% to the British for beating the Nazi is africa. Why the US was so big in WW2 was that we helped end the Nazi regime. The british stoped the nazi advance in the west with little support if the US besides resources. i think the only thing we disagree on is if the Russians could have done it without allies advancing in the West. Hitler then could focus more troops in the east. The western allies also could have had the opportunity to take berlin
TankIV 11 months ago
@TankIV And yes the war was an Allied Victory but if any country played a bigger part it was Russia. And actually the war wouldnt have lasted for that long by 1943 the Russians had crushed the Axis forces and were on full advance to berlin, And in North Africa the British had defeated Rommel and the Axis Alliance and the Americans were just coming to help push the Axis out,
martynrobin121 1 year ago
@martynrobin121 It was the effort of not only the US, not only the british, and not only the Russians but all the allied nations. Just because we came in the last year doesnt mean we didnt do shit. Imagine how long the war would have lasted without us? Once we came in we gave the allies the opportunity to get a foot hold in France and then push on to make the war end. In the US, we worked non stop to help out.
TankIV 1 year ago
@TankIV And when U.S forces saw there first battles against the Germans and Italians 1943, The years the Axis were been defeated. The Russia had defeated them at Moscow,Stalingrad,Kursk and the British ahd defeated the Axis at Al Alamein and humiliated Rommels counter attacks, The Axis were losing the war but American supplies and resources were everything and to help the British invade Europe and stop the Russian Communists. STOP THE SPREAD OF COMMUNISM.
martynrobin121 1 year ago
@martynrobin121 Also, with the A bomb, the japs knew we could destroy a city with one drop of a bomb. You are right about the FIRST bomb being droped to anger them but the second got them to surrender.
TankIV 1 year ago
Glad it never happened. For the sake of the safety of the planet
TheSaboteur97 1 year ago 6
@TheSaboteur97 here I am not so sure lol :P :)
alternatehistorypt 1 year ago 5
@TheSaboteur97 I agree with you man, I don't think people really think about what America has really done for the world. The world without America would be less safe, more poverty stricken, and filled with famine and disease. The United States is .responsible for alot of vaccines, world safety, and wealth all around the world.
xtremejohnny69 8 months ago
what is the first song??? someone please tell me
06hurdwp 1 year ago
@06hurdwp I found it on youtube, it's the soviet march of Red Alert 3 lol but it's awsome :)
alternatehistorypt 1 year ago
@alternatehistorypt thanks mate ur a legend, also ive got an idea for alternate history - if trotsky took over from lenin instead of stalin :)
06hurdwp 1 year ago
@06hurdwp I have lots of suggestions to make right now so it will take time, but one day I might do that and of course then I'll let you know :) you're very kind, thanks :)!
alternatehistorypt 1 year ago
@06hurdwp
/watch?v=Ikq71sILojc
have a merry x-mas
basdo83 1 year ago
GooooD Morning, Evening guys first i like so much the Soviet union songs want to share you in this discusion
BOUTRIFICE 1 year ago
ARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH. PLEASE, PLEASE, USE THE PROPER ENGLISH INTERNATIONALE, NOT THE ONE WRITTEN BY THAT PRAT.
charlottesetsu 1 year ago
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@charlottesetsu What do you disike about the Billy Brag Version? I think it actually makes some valid points
mukmakumkum 1 year ago
Make one about the world goes juche instead , Juche was superpower with kickass economy in 80s before hegemony states sanctioned
Wyldstylist 1 year ago
@Wyldstylist I might think about it as soon as I know more about that :)
alternatehistorypt 1 year ago
@alternatehistorypt What do you disike about the Billy Brag Version? I think it actually makes some valid points.
mukmakumkum 1 year ago
@mukmakumkum I do not deslike the Billy Brag Version :) lol
alternatehistorypt 1 year ago
@alternatehistorypt
Sorry, wrong person, lol :)
mukmakumkum 1 year ago
Soviet Red Army Choir, DDR anthem and Internationale suits the Hammer and Sickle Earth freaking nice:-)
SuperAcab666 1 year ago
@SuperAcab666 thanks :)
alternatehistorypt 1 year ago
@alternatehistorypt You´re welcome:-) I enjoyed the music a lot thanks:-)
SuperAcab666 1 year ago
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cmoeseph 1 year ago
@cmoeseph some soviet song ... can't remember now... but it's here on youtube I guess
alternatehistorypt 1 year ago
if usa not entered ww2 germany win against russia, not in 1 year but they win.
Mindtfreak 1 year ago
@Mindtfreak there was a similar event in thid alternate world which Germany won (that why I mention "occupied russia") but it was much before 2011 and not the same. Thank you for watching :)
alternatehistorypt 1 year ago
yeah your latest video its just great man very great. how did you do that. Time to go offline tommorow is a working day again
CHRIS1974100 1 year ago
@CHRIS1974100 I draw the flag in paint and found musics in the web :)
alternatehistorypt 1 year ago
Great im speechless
CHRIS1974100 1 year ago
@CHRIS1974100 Glad you liked :) see my first scenario about "what if America had lost the indepence war" too :)
alternatehistorypt 1 year ago
What is that song in the very beggining? I see it all over the place but i don't know the name of it. Anyways awesome video!
gamepro217 1 year ago
@gamepro217 I "just sent you a message explaining that althought I do not know the title too. When the flag appears the anthem merges first the "Marsellaise" then East German "Auferstanden aus ruinen" and finally "The Internationalle" in english, a very British english lol :). And remember. Things do not have to be this way, you can always make your own anwers to my video "An Idea for you" :)
alternatehistorypt 1 year ago