Some of the comments on here are stupid! Obama was not elected, he was selected! Hillary should have won the election but the DNC (Howie and Nan) showed that they were in control by giving pay off money to people in districts that Hillary won, they would get the money only if they would switch their vote to Obama! It was rigged from the start, If not Hillary after the convention, it will be McCain, and there will be a lot of people that I will be taking with me!
lol, wow I just keep running into your funny ass on all these videos. I would absolutely love to see your proof for this allegation you made. What are your sources? My guess is that you have none; they were probably born for that psychotic, depressed, low self-esteem mind of yours that wanted Hillary to be president for no other reason then that she was a woman. If Osama bin Laden's GF was running for president you'd vote for her because she was a woman!
Isn't it a shame that I have not run into your smart ass till now! Great meeting you, and no matter what happens in Denver, we will more that likely cross paths again, if Hillary does not get the nomination, I will be supporting McCain, not OsamaNObama! And no, I would not vote for Michael even if she were running against BUSH! ROFLMAO!!!!
What would you say if after the Convention, the Super D's change their minds and vote for the person they feel that can beat McCain, which is Hillary since Polls now show Hillary beating McCain by a wide margin, and Obama is tied, the Super Delegates are there to pick the person who they feel will beat the republican nominee come November, will you GET OVER IT? WILL YOU HAVE SOUR GRAPES? WILL YOU VOTE FOR HILLARY? COME ON TELL THE TRUTH! If you have any truth left in you since listening to lies!
Are some of the Democrats dumb or something? If Clinton were to win now, she will loose most, if not, all of Obama's supporters. Obama has more votes, all these Clinton supports should just shut up or else John McCain will win as President.
Used images of Paris Hilton and Britney Spears to promote "empty bimbo" stereotype of female celebrities. This ad was run without notifying these women or their families, or obtaining their permission. His use of these women for HIS OWN political gain is WRONG!
kasdri, its people like you that give this country a bad name and keep people believing that racism is alive and well in this country. You are poor white trash with no education.
Meet John and Cindy McCain, ordinary American citizens. Beer heiress, Cindy McCain is an executive whose worth may exceed $100 million. She spends up to 500K a month on AMEX cards, pays upwards of 300K for staff in all of the McCain's grandiose residences, has a private jet at her service (the only way to get around AZ is by private jet, after all), and purchases clothing from couture boutiques where suits start at $3500.00.
McSame represents NO CHANGE! It will be the Bush third term!
"Maverick" McSame admits to not understanding the economy and thinks that a gas tax holiday is a solution to high gasoline prices. His policies are against what a large majority of this country want. He voted with Bush 100% of the time in 2008 and 95% in 2007. He would appoint extremist judges to the Supreme Court. This war hero has a record of voting AGAINST the troops and veterans.
The DNC warned the democrats in Florida & Michigan not to move their primary. If they did so they would not count. Florida Democratic leaders decided to go ahead and set the primary for Jan 29th. How can Republicans be blamed for decisions Democrats made? That is unfair.
Politics -- Republican Sen. John McCain said Wednesday he opposes a Senate bill that seeks equal pay for women because it would lead to more lawsuits. Senate Republicans killed the bill, which would make it easier for women to sue their employers for pay discrimination, with a 56-42 vote. This is how he feels about women and you would vote for him cause Hilliary got beat? wow! By the way he called his wife a cunt to reporters! tell this bitter old lady to look at who shes switching her support!
3) Hillary just backed Obama! No true Hillary fan would vote for Obama so that proves Hillary shows poor judgment! And one thing we learned from this campaign is we don't want people with poor judgment in the White House. So if Obama is out, and Hillary is out, that leaves John McCain! Hooray! Your logic convinced me, kabaau! Thanks. Now, all together: FOUR MORE YEARS! FOUR MORE YEARS!
2) You're right! John McCain is the better candidate! You convinced me. He recently commended the use of warrentless wiretaps and unfettered executive power! He wants to appoint judges like Roberts and Alito (you know, the guys who gave us the Lllly Ledbetter ruling). He voted for torture, permanent tax cuts for the rich, staying in Iraq for who knows how long (his answer changes!) These are things Hillary opposed. So why should Hillary backers vote McCain? Because...
1) kabaau: you are "clearly" mistaken: my voter ID "clearly" says I'm registered independent. I "clearly" remember voting for both parties (as well as an independent candidate or two) in my voting career. You "clearly" need to get your eyesight checked, "sweetie" as you are "clearly" not seeing too "clearly". Also, you may want to refrain from using baby talk ("gogo gaga") when making a point unless your intent is to not be taken seriously. That said, I want you to know...
Also kabaau: you said "Clinton never claimed to turn to new page" which I guess means you think politics as usual is a good thing. I think you've forgotten the ad she ran in New Hampshire called "Ready for Change". Here is some of the text: "We will change things in this country. Because we want it....If we're ready for change, she's ready to lead." Sounds like she was ready to turn a new page there.
drudge: clearly you are not independent, supporting a man who claims anything to get elected. Go ahead, pick and choose, people do have long memory, unlike obama fans, forgotten that he glorified Reagan. oh that only election talks, like his Samantha Powers said and his economic advisor (for U. Chicago - home of milton friedman suppply side economics) said to canada. You think he is liberal, he ain't he cannot bring the troops home, he can't, advisors said so.
In 2000 Republicans crowned Bush, they were billed as "idiots and stupid". In 2008, Democratic Party (not people) crowned Obama, and in 2011, the party elites and supporters of Obama will be billed as "idiots and stupid". There its leveling the plain field.
60 percent is correct, but not all the women are for Hillary some are AA and some students. And she didn't win the popular vote. Also hillary says the most votes ever but she means the most votes ever before this race, ecept in this race obama got more. This is WHY OBAMA WON.
I don't get it. They blame the Florida republicans for moving the primary date against Democratic party rules. yet in November they're going to vote for McCain?? So the Republicans screwed them and in response Clintonites are going to vote Republican!? Are they really that stupid?
So do you want them to support the party that trash their candidate, not to mention the media, the church obama went. I can bet you the father pfleger did was intentional, to make sure to the AA superdelegates to stay in line with Obama.
I'm not quite sure what your point is but may I point out the Republicans have been trashing Hillary for 16 years now. (You remember the Republicans: they stand for everything she is supposedly against.) And Florida Republicans made sure that the state's Democratic vote wouldn't count. And Clintonites, in response, are going to retaliate against the Republicans by... voting Republican?? And that makes total sense to you? Please explain how, I am dying to understand the logic.
drudge: What is the logic for DNC to award obama 59 delegates and reduced clinton delegates to 69 in Michigan? That is betrayal. Its better to know your enemy (republicans) than to find out turncoats (democrats-spineless idiots). McCain is as capable as Clinton. Don't throw in the Roe v Wade thing. Obama the Harvard man is the same as Bush only a few shades darker. He will not change Washington, it will change him. Look at his advisors, all party people. No change is coming.
kabaauL OK I won't use the "Roe v Wade thing" (though I can see why you don't want me to: it's such a great argument). I'll use this instead: when McCain is elected through your help, and we invade Iran (and maybe Syria) to begin our 100 years occupation, and the blood of your children and grandchildren is spilled, who will you blame then?
drudge: I blame people like you. People that chastise the best qualified individual for someone with paper thin resume and run on change. Remember Bush also ran on change. Change for what? Obama will stay in Iraq. Listen to Samantha Powers. And Obama will also bomb Iran
kabaau: Interesting. YOUR vote will get McCain elected yet you will blame ME when his presidency goes. Fascinating how you will not accept the responsibility for your actions. Let me guess: "You chastised my candidate. You made me vote McCain." Interesting that my opinion has such power over you. The Republicans need weak minded individuals like you to win. And you say you aren't a sheep.
drudge: interesting indeed. The world does not revolve around you. Get hold of yourself. Read again, Obama supporters are weak-minded, gogo gaga over change; to what for what? Do quote correctly.. but this is what I expect from Obama fan club. Spin, Spin. McCain is as capable as Clinton, Obama however no records to show.
kabaau: Of Obama you write: "Look at his advisors, all party people." And Hillary's advisors are not? Also you make a weird argument about turncoats. Since a turncoat is "a person who changes to the opposite party or faction" and you call them "spineless idiots," if you vote McCain doesn't that make you....?
Drudge: Clinton never claimed to turn to new page. She claims on experience thus her advisers are experienced individuals. Obama should surround himself not with likes Axelrod and party elders but with the likes of Samantha Powers and junior congressmen. Just imagine, Obama admires Reagan over Carter or Clinton. What does that say about Obama? Liberal or conservative??? Wonders. Say anything to win. I am not a democrat, I am independent, you need my vote. be nice. I am no sheep sweetie!
Hate to break it to you, "sweetie," but I am also a registered independent. I don't "need" anything from you. Help me out here: you say Obama admires Reagan "over" Carter or Clinton. I know he said nice things (as has Clinton and McCain— him more so) but "over"? Can you be "nice" enough to back up your claim with the citation on that? When exactly did Obama say he preferred Reagan "over" Clinton or Carter?
drudge: Hate to remind you baby! he was a bit patronizing, he glorified Reagan. keep dreaming. Do your homework, its all over when he spoke with the paper editors in Nevada. People do remember. I figure, soon you will say, Obama never said the bitter thing.
They were unsanctioned elections, until Clinton insiders changed the rules to benefit Clinton. If you wanted your vote to count you needed to take it up with your state legislators, voted REPIG, stayed home or left the state. It wasn't Obama fault. Clinton promised not to campaign for votes then pushed for votes to count in an unsanctioned race. Even if she was winning she would've pushed, because she has nothing to lose, win or lose. Obama couldn't do that and now the party is divided for 2012.
Hillary's patently self-serving concern for the voters might be believable if she hadn't agreed to not seating them. The hysterical rant of Harriet Christian proves how delusional and out-of-touch with reality Clinton's supporters are. You'd rather vote for a man who will overturn Roe v. Wade, keep troops in Iraq, start more wars, and be Bush v. 3.0 then do so, Judas. You are despicable and a disgrace to your party so please resign from the Democratic party as well.
Being a Conservative.....I am LOVING this. Obama will be made the candidate mostly due to liberal white guilt. It will be like McGovern's run all over again. And after he loses, Obama fans will sit back and smugly say "Well, we were not the racists." LOL!
Obama created this mess for not meeting up with the HRC camp and get this resolved! He did not stood up as a leader, instead sat back and let this happen. He'll regret it. This could have been resolved if he only worked together.
You could be right. Although probably safer to say it's the leaders of the Democrats in those two states fault. As for Obama regretting. I highly doubt it. The problem is Clinton supporters think the 1.7 million voters are gonna vote McCain. Fine go ahead. Go vote for a candidate who wants to stay in Iraq for 100 years. Go vote for a candidate who believes in private health care. Go vote for a candidate that is laughing at your Democratic party right now.
The DNC and Howard Dean messed it up. They could have just penalized the Florida and Michigan delegations by cutting half of their delegations from the start like the Republicans did instead of cutting them all. Had they done this from the start we'd have pretty much the same result with none of the chaos. Anyway I've heard that we'll never have a process like this again since they are thinking about serious reforms to the process. I've heard talk about regional primaries in the future.
howard dean has saved the democratic party. we won back the senate, house, many governorships, state legislatures, and in november, the presidency. the 50 state strategy is brilliant.
these racist hags represent a very small minority and probably don't even vote democrat most of the time anyway.
howard dean is the head of the party, but he had nothing to do with winning back the senate or the house...and definitely not any state legislatures. and good response, on the racist hags...yeah, they seem like assholes, so theres no way they could be democrats. i understand we're only seeing a few people's views here, but its almost as if you're just in pure denial about these people just being overall selfish people, along with members of the liberal side of things. they're out there man,
Umm...no, Howard Dean didn't have much to do with winning back the House and Senate it was Rahm Emmanuel and Chuck Schumer who headed those national campaigns. I don't think that Howard Dean is an "idiot" either because quite frankly it was pretty much the entire rules and bylaws committee that decided to cut the full delegations.
Howard Dean heavily influenced the style of the DCCC starting in 2005 (when Emanuel became chair) which is also when Dean became head of the DNC. Without Deans involvement, Emanuel would've continued with the failing DLC schemes that have caused the Democrats to lose so many elections.
The guy dressed up as uncle sam is being tricked. the reason why Hillary wnated the florida n michigan seated is because shes losing, b4 she realised that she didnt even give a damn about florida n michigan.
pretty much all of these stupid people have no clue what they're talking about...i like the lady who says 60 percent with fracture from the party...where does this lady get her information and statistics? democrats are trying to claim a united party, yet you have supporters who are threatening to abandon the party if the candidate they want isn't selected...
Baby, those data are exit polls out of PA/OH/IN/WV/KY. The truth is more and more are abandoning the Obama democratic party in late contests.
Stop drinking you kool-aid, as a moderate, I'll be very pleasant to see the Pelosi/Kerry/Kennedy/Obama faction finishes in Nov... Yeah, I'll pull lever for McCain... LOL.
you're just further proving my point...if you're a strong democrat, you shouldn't be bitter and try to execute "revenge" on your own party's leaders by voting for the republican candidate. what point are you proving by doing that and what cause are you helping?
What a bunch of nonsense. If these ppl vote for McCain, they DESERVE everything that goes bad for them. Womens rights, pro-choice etc. I will have no sympathy for any so called "democrat" that votes against Obama because Clinton screwed up her campaign.
"His public persona thrives on a manipulation of whites (bargaining), and his private sense of racial identity demands both self-betrayal and duplicity. His is the story of a man who flew so high, yet neglected to become himself."
This is what happens when you are treated like an affirmative action hire by the MSM.
Hussein just is not a man yet, he has some more baking to do before he can come out of the oven.
if hillary wins the popular vote...shouldn't she get to run for president...isn't that what GORE ARGUED and the dnc was 100% behind him. wouldn't it be hypocritical for them not to have hillary if she has the popular vote??????
The election is based on delegate not popular vote. Furthermore Gore's argument was based on the fact that he won Florida and therefore won those electoral votes giving him a majority of electoral votes in the election not that he won the overall popular votes in the election. With that said your statement that she "won the popular vote" is also misleading as that is made by counting Michigan as 0 votes for Obama and discounting five caucus states won by Obama which have no official tally.
What galls me is the so-called "feminists" in Hillary's camp who have decided that they'll vote for the ANTI-CHOICE candidate (McCain) instead of the pro-choice Democrat (Obama) out of sheer spite. They'll vote for someone who will seat a Supreme Court Justice who might overturn Roe v. Wade because the female candidate didn't win.
I'm a bit confused....didn't gore go to the supreme court because he won the popular vote and the DNC was 100% behind him. wouldn't it be hypocritial for them not to give it to hillary if she has won the popular vote...if not why then say that gore really won the election????
The Supreme Court case was about the recounting the votes in Florida because it was believed that Gore had won the popular vote in Florida and therefore there was a belief that those 25 Florida electoral votes should be allocated to him winning him the election but the Supreme Court prevented a full recount. It had nothing to do with the overall popular vote. 2000 wasn't the first time it happened according to wikipedia it happened 3 other times in our history (1824, 1876 and 1888 elections).
bye bye Turd Blossum Hitlery....you can't put lipstick on a pig, time to go back to the farm. Chill Hill....your done, We've put a fork in it and yep yep yep....your FINISHED!!!
Many people realize this. But a true democrat will vote for Obama before they vote for McCain, if not, it's sad to see someone be so petty because their candidate didn't win. The people of the Democratic Nation have spoken and they chose Obama as the best candidate to defeat McCain. McCain is having difficulty gaining trust of his party. Ron Paul supporters are going to revolt at the Republican National Committee, they did so in Nevada and looked what happened, The convention was shut down.
You know what Harold Ickes (HRC advisor) wanted at the DNC meeting. He wanted the pledged delegates to be split 40% "uncommitted" i.e. made superdelegates and the rest to be pledged to HRC. That is, the only solution they would except is that she wins all the Michigan pledged delegates and Obama gets zero. This only works if you assume that no one in Michigan (no one in Detroit or Ann Arbor) supported Obama and that 100% of them supported Clinton. It is like these guys are professional trolls.
internetmaster564- Get A LIFE! Are you serious it's 2008 and plus he is biracial you moron. Hillary started all of this...WHERE WERE THESE PROTESTORS WHEN THE DNC TOOK THIS ACTION?? You heard that lady it's not about the votes, it's about HILLARY. They aren't doing this for the party it's done for the candidate
Hillary treated Obama unfairly with the SNL broadcast. I think that if Obama did win the nomination, Hillary democrats would vote for McCain out of pure bigotry and hatred. I do not believe there was ever party unity. I believe there was ethnocentric, pro-abortion unity within the Democratic party. I actually think Hillary would be a great president without the abortion lobby movement. She has proven that she has class and restraint, mercy and justice.
Ever notice how all these women are basically the same age? Mostly White.
These Women are living in a different time frame.
MystikWizard 3 years ago
Clinton Supporters for McCain - Is it Race?
watch?v=F5130bLv7Ys
mrbuddy0008 3 years ago
Now DNC gives us the full vote what a joke..
Hillary is the winner...Obama's pay them off...sad day for america.
I cant vote for Obama sorry
Florida
eventvisionsinc 3 years ago
Some of the comments on here are stupid! Obama was not elected, he was selected! Hillary should have won the election but the DNC (Howie and Nan) showed that they were in control by giving pay off money to people in districts that Hillary won, they would get the money only if they would switch their vote to Obama! It was rigged from the start, If not Hillary after the convention, it will be McCain, and there will be a lot of people that I will be taking with me!
muffin1559 3 years ago
lol, wow I just keep running into your funny ass on all these videos. I would absolutely love to see your proof for this allegation you made. What are your sources? My guess is that you have none; they were probably born for that psychotic, depressed, low self-esteem mind of yours that wanted Hillary to be president for no other reason then that she was a woman. If Osama bin Laden's GF was running for president you'd vote for her because she was a woman!
ShenmueAtheist 3 years ago
Isn't it a shame that I have not run into your smart ass till now! Great meeting you, and no matter what happens in Denver, we will more that likely cross paths again, if Hillary does not get the nomination, I will be supporting McCain, not OsamaNObama! And no, I would not vote for Michael even if she were running against BUSH! ROFLMAO!!!!
muffin1559 3 years ago
Hillary supporters sure have a bad case of sour grapes!
Get over it!
You win some, you lose some. It's not the end of the world.
EKSartist 3 years ago
What would you say if after the Convention, the Super D's change their minds and vote for the person they feel that can beat McCain, which is Hillary since Polls now show Hillary beating McCain by a wide margin, and Obama is tied, the Super Delegates are there to pick the person who they feel will beat the republican nominee come November, will you GET OVER IT? WILL YOU HAVE SOUR GRAPES? WILL YOU VOTE FOR HILLARY? COME ON TELL THE TRUTH! If you have any truth left in you since listening to lies!
muffin1559 3 years ago
Are some of the Democrats dumb or something? If Clinton were to win now, she will loose most, if not, all of Obama's supporters. Obama has more votes, all these Clinton supports should just shut up or else John McCain will win as President.
Nomoreus3rname 3 years ago
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SEXIST JOHN MCCAIN:
Used images of Paris Hilton and Britney Spears to promote "empty bimbo" stereotype of female celebrities. This ad was run without notifying these women or their families, or obtaining their permission. His use of these women for HIS OWN political gain is WRONG!
Just say NO to John McCain!
EKSartist 3 years ago
Someone tell that stupid loser bitch at the end to suck a black dick.
obama baby...
malboro1979 3 years ago
You can shove that same black dick up your ass!
muffin1559 3 years ago
No way that nigger is gong to make it into the WHITE house . McCain 2008 !
kasdri 3 years ago
kasdri, its people like you that give this country a bad name and keep people believing that racism is alive and well in this country. You are poor white trash with no education.
wholly33 3 years ago
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Will the REAL elitist please stand up?
Meet John and Cindy McCain, ordinary American citizens. Beer heiress, Cindy McCain is an executive whose worth may exceed $100 million. She spends up to 500K a month on AMEX cards, pays upwards of 300K for staff in all of the McCain's grandiose residences, has a private jet at her service (the only way to get around AZ is by private jet, after all), and purchases clothing from couture boutiques where suits start at $3500.00.
EKSartist 3 years ago
Hillary splitted her party
DeeDiamond0 3 years ago
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McSame represents NO CHANGE! It will be the Bush third term!
"Maverick" McSame admits to not understanding the economy and thinks that a gas tax holiday is a solution to high gasoline prices. His policies are against what a large majority of this country want. He voted with Bush 100% of the time in 2008 and 95% in 2007. He would appoint extremist judges to the Supreme Court. This war hero has a record of voting AGAINST the troops and veterans.
A vote for McSame is a vote for Bush!
EKSartist 3 years ago
The DNC warned the democrats in Florida & Michigan not to move their primary. If they did so they would not count. Florida Democratic leaders decided to go ahead and set the primary for Jan 29th. How can Republicans be blamed for decisions Democrats made? That is unfair.
mightydesign 3 years ago
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Politics -- Republican Sen. John McCain said Wednesday he opposes a Senate bill that seeks equal pay for women because it would lead to more lawsuits. Senate Republicans killed the bill, which would make it easier for women to sue their employers for pay discrimination, with a 56-42 vote. This is how he feels about women and you would vote for him cause Hilliary got beat? wow! By the way he called his wife a cunt to reporters! tell this bitter old lady to look at who shes switching her support!
SHORTEEDOOWAP 3 years ago
3) Hillary just backed Obama! No true Hillary fan would vote for Obama so that proves Hillary shows poor judgment! And one thing we learned from this campaign is we don't want people with poor judgment in the White House. So if Obama is out, and Hillary is out, that leaves John McCain! Hooray! Your logic convinced me, kabaau! Thanks. Now, all together: FOUR MORE YEARS! FOUR MORE YEARS!
drudge222 3 years ago
2) You're right! John McCain is the better candidate! You convinced me. He recently commended the use of warrentless wiretaps and unfettered executive power! He wants to appoint judges like Roberts and Alito (you know, the guys who gave us the Lllly Ledbetter ruling). He voted for torture, permanent tax cuts for the rich, staying in Iraq for who knows how long (his answer changes!) These are things Hillary opposed. So why should Hillary backers vote McCain? Because...
drudge222 3 years ago
1) kabaau: you are "clearly" mistaken: my voter ID "clearly" says I'm registered independent. I "clearly" remember voting for both parties (as well as an independent candidate or two) in my voting career. You "clearly" need to get your eyesight checked, "sweetie" as you are "clearly" not seeing too "clearly". Also, you may want to refrain from using baby talk ("gogo gaga") when making a point unless your intent is to not be taken seriously. That said, I want you to know...
drudge222 3 years ago
60% will fracture from the party? Im glad Clinton will not be nominated if these are the idiots that support her
omnius5757 3 years ago
drugde: bye, not worth my time and good luck
kabaau 3 years ago
kabaau: sorry to hear that you are afraid of my answer. Too bad. I think it would please you....
drudge222 3 years ago
Also kabaau: you said "Clinton never claimed to turn to new page" which I guess means you think politics as usual is a good thing. I think you've forgotten the ad she ran in New Hampshire called "Ready for Change". Here is some of the text: "We will change things in this country. Because we want it....If we're ready for change, she's ready to lead." Sounds like she was ready to turn a new page there.
drudge222 3 years ago
drudge: clearly you are not independent, supporting a man who claims anything to get elected. Go ahead, pick and choose, people do have long memory, unlike obama fans, forgotten that he glorified Reagan. oh that only election talks, like his Samantha Powers said and his economic advisor (for U. Chicago - home of milton friedman suppply side economics) said to canada. You think he is liberal, he ain't he cannot bring the troops home, he can't, advisors said so.
kabaau 3 years ago
In 2000 Republicans crowned Bush, they were billed as "idiots and stupid". In 2008, Democratic Party (not people) crowned Obama, and in 2011, the party elites and supporters of Obama will be billed as "idiots and stupid". There its leveling the plain field.
kabaau 3 years ago
60 percent is correct, but not all the women are for Hillary some are AA and some students. And she didn't win the popular vote. Also hillary says the most votes ever but she means the most votes ever before this race, ecept in this race obama got more. This is WHY OBAMA WON.
cooolandy 3 years ago
yes they are that stupid!
timesplitters333 3 years ago
I don't get it. They blame the Florida republicans for moving the primary date against Democratic party rules. yet in November they're going to vote for McCain?? So the Republicans screwed them and in response Clintonites are going to vote Republican!? Are they really that stupid?
drudge222 3 years ago
yes, theyre really that stupid.
Pelonetillo 3 years ago
So do you want them to support the party that trash their candidate, not to mention the media, the church obama went. I can bet you the father pfleger did was intentional, to make sure to the AA superdelegates to stay in line with Obama.
kabaau 3 years ago
I'm not quite sure what your point is but may I point out the Republicans have been trashing Hillary for 16 years now. (You remember the Republicans: they stand for everything she is supposedly against.) And Florida Republicans made sure that the state's Democratic vote wouldn't count. And Clintonites, in response, are going to retaliate against the Republicans by... voting Republican?? And that makes total sense to you? Please explain how, I am dying to understand the logic.
drudge222 3 years ago
drudge: What is the logic for DNC to award obama 59 delegates and reduced clinton delegates to 69 in Michigan? That is betrayal. Its better to know your enemy (republicans) than to find out turncoats (democrats-spineless idiots). McCain is as capable as Clinton. Don't throw in the Roe v Wade thing. Obama the Harvard man is the same as Bush only a few shades darker. He will not change Washington, it will change him. Look at his advisors, all party people. No change is coming.
kabaau 3 years ago
kabaauL OK I won't use the "Roe v Wade thing" (though I can see why you don't want me to: it's such a great argument). I'll use this instead: when McCain is elected through your help, and we invade Iran (and maybe Syria) to begin our 100 years occupation, and the blood of your children and grandchildren is spilled, who will you blame then?
drudge222 3 years ago
drudge: I blame people like you. People that chastise the best qualified individual for someone with paper thin resume and run on change. Remember Bush also ran on change. Change for what? Obama will stay in Iraq. Listen to Samantha Powers. And Obama will also bomb Iran
kabaau 3 years ago
kabaau: Interesting. YOUR vote will get McCain elected yet you will blame ME when his presidency goes. Fascinating how you will not accept the responsibility for your actions. Let me guess: "You chastised my candidate. You made me vote McCain." Interesting that my opinion has such power over you. The Republicans need weak minded individuals like you to win. And you say you aren't a sheep.
drudge222 3 years ago
drudge: interesting indeed. The world does not revolve around you. Get hold of yourself. Read again, Obama supporters are weak-minded, gogo gaga over change; to what for what? Do quote correctly.. but this is what I expect from Obama fan club. Spin, Spin. McCain is as capable as Clinton, Obama however no records to show.
kabaau 3 years ago 2
kabaau: Of Obama you write: "Look at his advisors, all party people." And Hillary's advisors are not? Also you make a weird argument about turncoats. Since a turncoat is "a person who changes to the opposite party or faction" and you call them "spineless idiots," if you vote McCain doesn't that make you....?
drudge222 3 years ago
Drudge: Clinton never claimed to turn to new page. She claims on experience thus her advisers are experienced individuals. Obama should surround himself not with likes Axelrod and party elders but with the likes of Samantha Powers and junior congressmen. Just imagine, Obama admires Reagan over Carter or Clinton. What does that say about Obama? Liberal or conservative??? Wonders. Say anything to win. I am not a democrat, I am independent, you need my vote. be nice. I am no sheep sweetie!
kabaau 3 years ago
Hate to break it to you, "sweetie," but I am also a registered independent. I don't "need" anything from you. Help me out here: you say Obama admires Reagan "over" Carter or Clinton. I know he said nice things (as has Clinton and McCain— him more so) but "over"? Can you be "nice" enough to back up your claim with the citation on that? When exactly did Obama say he preferred Reagan "over" Clinton or Carter?
drudge222 3 years ago
drudge: Hate to remind you baby! he was a bit patronizing, he glorified Reagan. keep dreaming. Do your homework, its all over when he spoke with the paper editors in Nevada. People do remember. I figure, soon you will say, Obama never said the bitter thing.
kabaau 3 years ago 2
INNAT RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!
violageo 3 years ago
They were unsanctioned elections, until Clinton insiders changed the rules to benefit Clinton. If you wanted your vote to count you needed to take it up with your state legislators, voted REPIG, stayed home or left the state. It wasn't Obama fault. Clinton promised not to campaign for votes then pushed for votes to count in an unsanctioned race. Even if she was winning she would've pushed, because she has nothing to lose, win or lose. Obama couldn't do that and now the party is divided for 2012.
dustynbones 3 years ago
Hillary's patently self-serving concern for the voters might be believable if she hadn't agreed to not seating them. The hysterical rant of Harriet Christian proves how delusional and out-of-touch with reality Clinton's supporters are. You'd rather vote for a man who will overturn Roe v. Wade, keep troops in Iraq, start more wars, and be Bush v. 3.0 then do so, Judas. You are despicable and a disgrace to your party so please resign from the Democratic party as well.
infidel65 3 years ago
Infidel65" Remember Watergate: The Republicans are playing the same game again.
to us its scares me..
DereckLamar 3 years ago
Being a Conservative.....I am LOVING this. Obama will be made the candidate mostly due to liberal white guilt. It will be like McGovern's run all over again. And after he loses, Obama fans will sit back and smugly say "Well, we were not the racists." LOL!
bogtrotter52 3 years ago 4
im a strong Democrat and these people are embarrassing
Josh25841 3 years ago
Clinton created this mess.
Carpediem77777 3 years ago
Obama created this mess for not meeting up with the HRC camp and get this resolved! He did not stood up as a leader, instead sat back and let this happen. He'll regret it. This could have been resolved if he only worked together.
cusnavigator5 3 years ago 4
You could be right. Although probably safer to say it's the leaders of the Democrats in those two states fault. As for Obama regretting. I highly doubt it. The problem is Clinton supporters think the 1.7 million voters are gonna vote McCain. Fine go ahead. Go vote for a candidate who wants to stay in Iraq for 100 years. Go vote for a candidate who believes in private health care. Go vote for a candidate that is laughing at your Democratic party right now.
Carpediem77777 3 years ago
The DNC and Howard Dean messed it up. They could have just penalized the Florida and Michigan delegations by cutting half of their delegations from the start like the Republicans did instead of cutting them all. Had they done this from the start we'd have pretty much the same result with none of the chaos. Anyway I've heard that we'll never have a process like this again since they are thinking about serious reforms to the process. I've heard talk about regional primaries in the future.
Y2ANJ 3 years ago 3
does everyone finally understand that howard dean is an idiot, and we're all very grateful he wasn't elected?
jmiller006 3 years ago
howard dean has saved the democratic party. we won back the senate, house, many governorships, state legislatures, and in november, the presidency. the 50 state strategy is brilliant.
these racist hags represent a very small minority and probably don't even vote democrat most of the time anyway.
badgrammar 3 years ago
howard dean is the head of the party, but he had nothing to do with winning back the senate or the house...and definitely not any state legislatures. and good response, on the racist hags...yeah, they seem like assholes, so theres no way they could be democrats. i understand we're only seeing a few people's views here, but its almost as if you're just in pure denial about these people just being overall selfish people, along with members of the liberal side of things. they're out there man,
jmiller006 3 years ago
Umm...no, Howard Dean didn't have much to do with winning back the House and Senate it was Rahm Emmanuel and Chuck Schumer who headed those national campaigns. I don't think that Howard Dean is an "idiot" either because quite frankly it was pretty much the entire rules and bylaws committee that decided to cut the full delegations.
Y2ANJ 3 years ago
Howard Dean heavily influenced the style of the DCCC starting in 2005 (when Emanuel became chair) which is also when Dean became head of the DNC. Without Deans involvement, Emanuel would've continued with the failing DLC schemes that have caused the Democrats to lose so many elections.
badgrammar 3 years ago
wow these people sound like complete idiots
Josh25841 3 years ago 2
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chuckinla 3 years ago
bunch of whiners
ntdao179 3 years ago
The guy dressed up as uncle sam is being tricked. the reason why Hillary wnated the florida n michigan seated is because shes losing, b4 she realised that she didnt even give a damn about florida n michigan.
imperialcereal 3 years ago
pretty much all of these stupid people have no clue what they're talking about...i like the lady who says 60 percent with fracture from the party...where does this lady get her information and statistics? democrats are trying to claim a united party, yet you have supporters who are threatening to abandon the party if the candidate they want isn't selected...
jmiller006 3 years ago 2
Baby, those data are exit polls out of PA/OH/IN/WV/KY. The truth is more and more are abandoning the Obama democratic party in late contests.
Stop drinking you kool-aid, as a moderate, I'll be very pleasant to see the Pelosi/Kerry/Kennedy/Obama faction finishes in Nov... Yeah, I'll pull lever for McCain... LOL.
mao3axel 3 years ago
you're just further proving my point...if you're a strong democrat, you shouldn't be bitter and try to execute "revenge" on your own party's leaders by voting for the republican candidate. what point are you proving by doing that and what cause are you helping?
jmiller006 3 years ago
What a bunch of nonsense. If these ppl vote for McCain, they DESERVE everything that goes bad for them. Womens rights, pro-choice etc. I will have no sympathy for any so called "democrat" that votes against Obama because Clinton screwed up her campaign.
dbqjoe 3 years ago 2
From Shelby Steele, on Obama:
"His public persona thrives on a manipulation of whites (bargaining), and his private sense of racial identity demands both self-betrayal and duplicity. His is the story of a man who flew so high, yet neglected to become himself."
This is what happens when you are treated like an affirmative action hire by the MSM.
Hussein just is not a man yet, he has some more baking to do before he can come out of the oven.
mao3axel 3 years ago
A feminist who votes for McCain makes as much sense as a civil rights worker who would vote for David Duke.
lunasophia 3 years ago 2
if hillary wins the popular vote...shouldn't she get to run for president...isn't that what GORE ARGUED and the dnc was 100% behind him. wouldn't it be hypocritical for them not to have hillary if she has the popular vote??????
3swelldogs 3 years ago
The election is based on delegate not popular vote. Furthermore Gore's argument was based on the fact that he won Florida and therefore won those electoral votes giving him a majority of electoral votes in the election not that he won the overall popular votes in the election. With that said your statement that she "won the popular vote" is also misleading as that is made by counting Michigan as 0 votes for Obama and discounting five caucus states won by Obama which have no official tally.
Y2ANJ 3 years ago
Hillary has done well. McCain is golden in November. Hillary 2012?
cagedtigersteve 3 years ago
What galls me is the so-called "feminists" in Hillary's camp who have decided that they'll vote for the ANTI-CHOICE candidate (McCain) instead of the pro-choice Democrat (Obama) out of sheer spite. They'll vote for someone who will seat a Supreme Court Justice who might overturn Roe v. Wade because the female candidate didn't win.
So much for being true to your values. . .
ZeroCorpse 3 years ago 4
ITS THEIR HORMONES SPEAKING...for the old ones...lack of!!!
hajqbvii 3 years ago
now you know what it feels like to be black
washmytoes 3 years ago
look at these crazies. willing to give up a democratic presidency because they didn't get who they wanted elected.
washmytoes 3 years ago
some of you people need a lesson.
i wish they posted ip addresses and more so you could be tracked.
then again, maybe you can
lol
bdcsluper 3 years ago
hillary cunton = self-entitled, self-absorbed, self-deserving fucking C-U-N-T.
lukebccb 3 years ago
get real.
jro660 3 years ago
I'm a bit confused....didn't gore go to the supreme court because he won the popular vote and the DNC was 100% behind him. wouldn't it be hypocritial for them not to give it to hillary if she has won the popular vote...if not why then say that gore really won the election????
3swelldogs 3 years ago
The Supreme Court case was about the recounting the votes in Florida because it was believed that Gore had won the popular vote in Florida and therefore there was a belief that those 25 Florida electoral votes should be allocated to him winning him the election but the Supreme Court prevented a full recount. It had nothing to do with the overall popular vote. 2000 wasn't the first time it happened according to wikipedia it happened 3 other times in our history (1824, 1876 and 1888 elections).
Y2ANJ 3 years ago
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chuckinla 3 years ago
does that last lady realize that 60% of the party didn't even vote for Hillary?
richardshort2001 3 years ago
no kidding, what a goober
washmytoes 3 years ago
where were these people a year ago?
richardshort2001 3 years ago 2
this is bad, this is real bad, we can't let Mccain win dang it, does anybody realize this
CrazyBlackVideogamer 3 years ago
Many people realize this. But a true democrat will vote for Obama before they vote for McCain, if not, it's sad to see someone be so petty because their candidate didn't win. The people of the Democratic Nation have spoken and they chose Obama as the best candidate to defeat McCain. McCain is having difficulty gaining trust of his party. Ron Paul supporters are going to revolt at the Republican National Committee, they did so in Nevada and looked what happened, The convention was shut down.
HippyGuy422 3 years ago 6
some true democrats are fed up with the hate
the audacity of hate that is represented here
new kind of politics my arse
bdcsluper 3 years ago
is the concept of more than two parties so fuckin hard for americans to grasp
applebuddy81 3 years ago
Unlike in most other places, American elections are candidate-centric, not party-centric.
We vote for people, not parties.
Dirtfire 3 years ago
You know what Harold Ickes (HRC advisor) wanted at the DNC meeting. He wanted the pledged delegates to be split 40% "uncommitted" i.e. made superdelegates and the rest to be pledged to HRC. That is, the only solution they would except is that she wins all the Michigan pledged delegates and Obama gets zero. This only works if you assume that no one in Michigan (no one in Detroit or Ann Arbor) supported Obama and that 100% of them supported Clinton. It is like these guys are professional trolls.
Y2ANJ 3 years ago 2
no unification without hillary, ain' dat' rah'. what an uneducated cunt.
nadoop 3 years ago 2
LOL at these fools. Republicrants are one party and are no good for this country.
3rd party over Fraudbama and McCannt
agentk1986 3 years ago
Everyone knows Its Bill who wants back in the white house so he could have another run in with Monica LOLOLOLOLOL\
OBAMA 08 !!
chasecordell 3 years ago
bill has always been behind this whole mess. it's too bad there are so many uneducated sheeps out there who willing to act a fool.
nadoop 3 years ago 3
internetmaster564- Get A LIFE! Are you serious it's 2008 and plus he is biracial you moron. Hillary started all of this...WHERE WERE THESE PROTESTORS WHEN THE DNC TOOK THIS ACTION?? You heard that lady it's not about the votes, it's about HILLARY. They aren't doing this for the party it's done for the candidate
cg0900 3 years ago 8
That's another stupid comment of yours.
TECHKLEC 3 years ago 2
Hillary helped to split the party. She needs to get over herself. Her money could not but her the White House.
streetforce1 3 years ago 2
Split our party...says another post menapausal groupie of Hillary's...I bet they helped elect GWB!
hajqbvii 3 years ago 6
60%? i'm not a Democrat but these whiney old hags are not 60% of the party.
historywillabsolve 3 years ago 4
Hillary treated Obama unfairly with the SNL broadcast. I think that if Obama did win the nomination, Hillary democrats would vote for McCain out of pure bigotry and hatred. I do not believe there was ever party unity. I believe there was ethnocentric, pro-abortion unity within the Democratic party. I actually think Hillary would be a great president without the abortion lobby movement. She has proven that she has class and restraint, mercy and justice.
BiteHunter 3 years ago