If you grow up in a communist country . You will know how lucky are you. Now,we live in difficult time of the world. So, US have been effect too. You think: Communist do they care about a poor? If yes, I dare you throw American citizen to gabage. Go to live in North Korea. If you said US don't care for poor people.
@MrWrongevolution you call north Korea communist? you don't know a god damn thing about communism. If they were truly communist they wouldn't have a leader, or a state because its completely communal. We are talking political theory, your talking about little fucking sound bites from ill informed bimbo looking bitches on fox news haha. real communism, to me, seems naive. but highly regulated social-capitalist economies makes much more sense.
got to love a so called anarchist using world GOVT laws. LOL
If we ever got real global anarchy, all the nonsense you flashed across the screen at the end would not even be possible in the slightest.
WHO is going to insure shelter and healthcare for people when you have NO govt? The answer is, NO ONE will insure anything but themselves and THAT is anarchism.
Socialism is COMPLETELY incompatible with anarchism.
Dude your idea of capitalism is totally distorted, as is Michael Moore's. Bank deregulation is what caused the problem when the Clinton administration ended the Glass Steagall Act, therefor banks were handing out enormous loans to Americans to buy homes they couldn't afford in the first place, and then when the banks wound with bad assets, the appeal to the government for a bailout, backed by taxpayers AND the Fed (which further devalued the dollar). That's not capitalism, that FRAUD.
I'm glad to find a post of yours though, because I forgot that I had an unfinished discussion with you some time ago. You asked me what languages am I studying if I remember correctly. I'm learning Japanese, but I got caught by other debates and I completely forgot about our "off the record" discussion.
establishments (apartments were actually free). Now, a child still gets to share his bedroom with one of his parents, and he can't afford a place of his own when he grows up even if he is a banker. The only way is paying rent somewhere, and that is very expensive in big cities too. Capitalism fails much more than socialism in providing decent housing, and that because in capitalism houses are seen as commodities, (not survival necessities which must be granted without payment) and a commodity
@mixmastermeeks: Here in Eastern Europe, most of the children still share bedrooms with their parents, and after the fall of socialism in 1989, the construction of houses and blocks of apartments stalled completely (except for extremely expensive villas)... During the times of the Warsaw pact, things were in constant improvement as better housing complexes appeared over the years, and the construction of residential buildings was sky-high because more manpower was needed by industrial
Zoning laws were created by greedy speculators that want land and real estate prices to rise for more profit and higher rents. Therefore, lower income persons are priced right out of a living space. Plain and simple. Even the poorest persons OUTSIDE of the USA live with some sort of roof over their head. Now you know why American has tent cities!
Eliminate zoning laws and there will be affordable housing for all. BTW...most of the world lives quite well w/o zoning laws. I'm an American living in Thailand. You can rent a nice house for about $50/month If you don't give a shit and just want a place to lay your head...about $10/month If you want to earn money, just build a push-cart and start selling food or whatever...no license-no problem! The only homeless people here are the mentally ill. And even they're hard to find!
In socialist Russia Housing was in short supply. There is a video of the comedian Yakov Smirnoff talking about living in a communal apartment with a few other families and how as a child he had to share a bedroom with his parents. A good example of a system thats purpose was to provide housing for everyone and it failed.
socialism is not an answer to homelessness, the only answer to homeless is rehabilitation and being able to control your own life. Socialism makes the homeless a burden to the hardworking people who have taken control of their lives. Capitalism is the only way this nation can bring itself out of debt.
@tyuru2 socialism is the same as capitalism in that both pay the worker more for a better quality and quantity of work; the difference is that socialism is about the worker owning the means of production. communism is the one where the homeless become a burden, but for a truly communist society there has to be a superabundance of goods which would mean homelessness would no longer exist.
The US is no longer a capitalist society, it more closely resembles fascism n has been much more since 2001. We show most of the 14 defining characteristics of it including a controlled corporate media. Monsanto, goldman sachs, cfr, Carlyle group, monsanto n others are n bed with the feds n shape our foreign n domestic policy, laws, etc which makes the US a corporatist, fascist nation. Not saying pure capitalism would work but I know the feds dont give a damn about the states or the people
blue222 pls spare us your lame Physics analogies; capitalism is not a "law of nature" - its a human concept and mode of economic organization that, someday soon (the next 50-100yrs), like feudalism, will be the fodder for History doctoral theses.
Nothing you addressed in this video had anything to do with capitalism. I'm not saying this to troll you, but please educate yourself before posting yet another video on "capitalism" or anything related to economics. All you are doing is opening yourself to attacks, which in all fairness, are very much deserved.
Capitalism is designed to fullfill peoples needs. It's goverment interferance that screw up the capitalist economy. As goverment want's everyone to be able to squander resources, even thouse who do not produce or contribute to the economy.
Capitalism is acctually the basic law of nature. Free trade is a good complemntary to capitalsim, as that lets individuals exchange goods and services with each other as they them selves desire.
If you dont like capitalism, you sure dont like mother nature.
"Capitalism is actually a basic law of nature". "If you don't like capitalism, you sure don't like mother nature". I agree 100%.
Men, like frogs, flowers, and amebas, evolve and grow over time. They are always desiring more and better. They are progressive by nature.
Capitalism harnesses this impulse. In a system of open trade, one gets more from his neighbor only by offering more to him. Both benefit and the economy evolves.
Socialism is not progressive. It's main idea, government redistribution of wealth, assumes a closed static economic system. Billiard balls hitting each other in different ways. Newtonian mechanics.
Capitalism's main idea, that freedom optimizes wealth and fairness in a society, assumes an open, growing economic system. The expanding universe going back to the Big Bang. Quantum mechanics.
Socialism was tried, extensively, and failed. 100,000,000 people died under that system.
@blue222blue Exactly! In socialism poverty flourish, because it is putting ppl in a possition where it is acctually no longer worth taking the risk of beeing an entreprenur, and simply just take the money offered. Cause if you would accept a job, you would loose your govt. benefits. But these all systems are not to fighet poverty, but to buy politicians votes. They dont care about poor peaple, they care about the huge sallary they can collect as politicians. And of course socsialsm =less freedom
Boy are you right that it's not about the poor people. Whenever we get lower govt interference in the economy, we get higher output, more jobs, more money for social programs, and more charitable giving. In the US, this happened in the 20s, the 60's and the 80s.
For years the country with the highest per capita income was Hong Kong, a tiny overpopulated isle with no natural resources, but a low flat tax rate. Africa, blessed with natural abundance, starves under socialism.
i am an evil capitalists that likes youtube brought to u by capitalist and i like my job were i work 40 hours and i get a paycheack at the end of the week were 62%of my money has to go to these free loaders like this guy who cant get a job ha ha ha i allso like the fact that i have a job because the evil boss who by the way is an evil capitalists created the job so i could work oh did i forget if it wasnt for capitalists he wouldent have a webcam or a computer or electric to power the
i am an evil capitalists that likes youtube brought to u by capitalist and i like my job were i work 40 hours and i get a paycheack at the end of the week were 62%of my money has to go to these free loaders like this guy who cant get a job ha ha ha i allso like the fact that i have a job because the evil boss who by the way is an evil capitalists created the job so i could work oh did i forget if it wasnt for capitalists he wouldent have a webcam or a home or a computer or electric to power the
i am an evil capitalists that likes youtube brought to u by capitalist and i like my job were i work 40 hours and i get a paycheack at the end of the week were 62%of my money has to go to these free loaders like this guy who cant get a job ha ha ha i allso like the fact that i have a job because the evil boss who by the way is an evil capitalists created the job so i could work oh did i forget if it wasnt for capitalists he wouldent have a webcam or a home or a computer or electric to power the
very touching video, but i dont see how these problems are too do with capitalism.
couldnt you get rid of minimum wage so companies can afford to take on more employees for less and stay in business at the same time, it would then mean that less people are jobless. sure, theyre earning less, but theyre still receiving SOME income.
just a question though, im an anarchist myself so im not trying to 'pwn" you or anything.
"If only the homeless made themselves valuable to the market."
Fuck you. It's such a free country we live in where every single thought and behavior is rooted by greed. That's the standard everyone must live up to or be cast out into the wilderness.
This guy is a VICTIM crying over other VICTIMS. I understand that 25% of the people have mental disorders. The rest are lazy, drug addicted victims that think the Government should take care of them. WTF is this world coming to? Your Great Grandparents would smack the living shit out of you. Lazy victims who want what I have and not willing to earn it. They steal it. What is this world coming to?
How would you make this world a better place? Would you simply give government more power to take from those who have & given to those who have not? The problem is that those who have the most money will always have the most influence in any government. Make government as small as possible. Allowing freedom and opportunity. Help those less fortunate without government. Who lately has been getting help from government, the homeless? No the big banks you know , too big to fail.
this video made me cry, this is one of the main reasons i became a socialist. too many ppl in this world are suffering and if we all wake up from this day dream of capitalism we could make the world a better place for all.
@x1600meterman How would you make this world a better place? Would you simply give government more power to take from those who have & given to those who have not? The problem is that those who have the most money will always have the most influence in any government. Make government as small as possible. Allowing freedom and opportunity. Help those less fortunate without government. Who lately has been getting help from government, the homeless? No the big banks you know , too big to fail.
Free market capitalism is not a utopia. Capitalism is bad compared to what? What is a better alternative to capitalism? We've seen other economic systems results such as socialism, communism, mixed economic systems. HistoricalIy I cant see how they produce results any better than capitalism. Generally I see that living standards are highest in nations where markets and individuals are most free.
You are stupid americans. Your shit ass government evicted them so they can not unite and condemn savage capitalism that denaturates human beeings. We need healthy capitalism where the human is beeing regarded as a flower that needs to blossom. WE NEED HEALTHY CAPITALISM : ONE FOR ALL AND ALL FOR ONE. COMUNISM IS NOT AN OPTION IS JUST A LIE TO PUT SOME FOG IN A CERTAIN COUNTRY SO PEOPLE CAN THINK THEY ARE PROTECTED FROM EXPLOATATION. ALL BIG LIES TO KEEP US ALWAYS IN A BLURR.
Tell me, why is regulation necessary? Why allow bureaucrats, who know nothing about the nature of business, to meddle in the economic affairs of private citizens.enterprises?
"We live in one of the wealthiest nations on the planet."
Wrong, we live in the largest debtor nation in the history of the world. Don't worry though Obama reappointed Bernanke who will print money until he runs out of trees. You think it's bad now just wait until the government solution drives gas prices to $10 a gallon, then $20, then $50. America doesn't know the true meaning of poor. But, we're all about to learn real quick.
those are authoritarian state capitalist countries you called socialism and communism, You can't make a generalist blanket statement on what something is so all that oppose capitalism are all the authoritarian types of socialism and that's it. That is a illogical thought process called dualism.
As far as I know when I look in history most communist nations and socialist nations have a lot more bloodshed in them. Dont get fooled and mislead by this bullshit. And its not capitalism its corportism to blame for this shit
capitalism is horse shit. all forms of major government is. less federal government is the way. more local. the american government was set up to protect the people not regulate. the people were suppose to control it, now it controls us.
...And Capitalism didnt create an over supply in housing...
Fucking retarded politicians demanding, sorry, mandating that certain races and certain pay scales MUST be given loans...thus, of course, people bought out of their pay scale and now have had to give back their home because they cannot afford the house...
Don't bother explaining to buddhagem the nature of the Community Reinvestment Act which ruined the US economy. He won't be able to understand since he isn't very smart. He's the kind of guy who demands regulation despite stuff like that happening.
imagine, if we didnt have a RIDICULOUS TAX system...how many jobs could be created for these homeless ones...or better yet, if these homeless (majority of them anyways) would have took time in their lives to make theirselves valuable to the Market instead of wasting it on sex, drugs and rock and roll...just saying...
Oh yeah, dont compare Bush to Capitalism....he is far from a Capitalist.
@helltrackrider Bush is an awesome capitalist. Him and his family have made A LOT of money capitalizing on America and the world as a whole.
Obama is an even better capitalist.
Monsanto is perfect capitalist corporation and will soon corner the market on the worlds food supply. Yes people will starve but the profits will soar!!!
How much were they paid before? Beter yet, what did they do before? All those outsourced jobs are contributing to the huge economic and residential building boom that is happening in India right now. Many Indians are living happily with those two dollars a day, living lifestyles that they would not have lived without them.
eventually they will demand higher paychecks, this is always inevitable so dont bitch about how much they make if they are content at the moment.
Welcome to the real world. Where americans kill indians, germans kill jews, chinese kill their own, russians kill georgians... Perpahps you would be happier on mars? -f america was founded on genocide, then what was europe founded on?
This whole thing is a big joke. When I get the book, I will cite the damn source that counted the number of empty beds and homeless in this country and uncovered how many empty beds go payed for every day. Homelessness in this country is a joke compared to almost any other country on the planet. It's a political tool that taps into lame brains like this guy. Over half of the homeless are addicted to drugs or alcohol. I mean...seriously people? You wonder why people are homeless? Good. Lord.
LOL, the stupidity gets worse by the day. Homelessness is a joke ROFL....Over half...LMAO...wow, did you just get up from a long sleep there Rumpelstiltskin? The only joke is you tonedeaf. Oh god, thanks for the laughs.
Yep, another idiot making excuses to be an ass. Really tonedeaf, do you really need an excuse. Ignorance and ass just oozes from you. No need to hide. Just be. It's ok, really.
Instead of pointing out where i was wrong, you laugh at the incredulity of my statement becuase it isn't what you hear about on NBC. If ou were to ask them, anyone who is a 'minority' or anyone who isn't a corporate thief is homeless. Would you like me to embarrass you and cite the source? Or should you find it yourself and quite while you're ahead?
You're medicated alright. Loser. LMAO OMD LOL ROFL learn to think for yourself and wake up to what's actually happening in the world.
Please embarrass me tonedeaf. I insist. You can't because you go by a source you haven't sited. Even if you do I will dismantle it. All this shows me is that you can't think for yourself. You have no life knowledge/experience. You immediately assume all homelessness is a cause of laziness combined with drugs and alcohol. You dilute the info with stupidity and don't investigate. Wake up? I am awake. I was never asleep. I don't accept bullshit like you do.
The source I am about to CITE, with a c, (maybe this isn't your arena) is the National Coalition for the Homeless. According to them. 38% of the homless are addicted to alcohol and 26% abused drugs. Add those up, and you get about 50% Of course they can do both thereby 'lowering' the statistic, but considering the number of homeless is in the 850,000 area, i would assure this is enough to raise eyebrows.
Unfortunately, Asshole, your scapegoat, capitalism, is not the problem. How do you know what experience I have? I've been to numerous countries around the world and the ones that are overwhelmingly social, have more homeless. I didn't assume everyone homeless was addicted. I never even said that. You're an angry activist on a warpath. Of course people who are hard working make mistakes and need help.
That's why homelessness should be a transitional period. What with all the welfare, free housing, free beds, goodwill clothing, etc. How do people actually manage to stay homeless? Of course those with mental illnesses need help, but how do you expect to find these people living on the street. Why don't you start finding them and get of your damn computer. I have done nothing that i need to defend myself for. You are a tool for politics if you believe ANYTHING this video says. Prove me wrong. GO
LOL, I volunteer at the local homeless shelter here. I donate blankets, coats, food etc.. Help with serving dinner. I also volunteer some time during the holidays. If you don't give a shit then DON'T. No one asked you to come here and make comments about something you have no idea about.
Good for you. No one is trying to take that away from you. You should be proud of the time you sacrifice.
But you still didn't prove me wrong. Like most liberals, you don't like facts being thrown in your face, because it undermines what you think is 'right' and highlights the ultimate futility of solving the homeless problem. As proven in this video, they use homelessness to inspire hate against those who believe in a for profit system. Sounds like our country alright! Try another arena.
When did I say "for profit" was bad. I will not help you with the concept in balancing profit and community responsibility. Which I know you will immediately convey as a liberal blah de blah blah. Sorry you can't think beyond those two spectrums of liberal and conservative.
If solving the homeless problem is saying there isn't a problem like you imply then I have some bridges in the Pacific to sell you...hahHAhA. Just stop, I have no more gum, gum for dumb dumb.
You claim to be a buddist Budda, but I dont believe you. A true Buddist would know about THE OTHER SIDE to Buddism. I asked you about the 4 things that were always true and you didnt know them as a buddist should..i have seen BEYOND those 4 things and found my own answer to Sidattha's statements. If he was correct then life is meaningless, so instead of the middle way, I choose MY way..the way of nature and its conflict.
LOL, you haven't seen the true emptiness of this world. Stop lying and deceiving Mara. It is about the session of suffering not creating more. Ignorance, hate, and attachment. The "MY way..." shows me just how ignorant, hateful and attached you are. I hope you don't hurt yourself with your red light saber Sith want a be. LOL
Everything is about power, Budda. Your flowery ideas about Socialism and Eutopia are ideas of power too. You live in a dream world, any power you give me I can pervert to serve me and destroy my enemies, thats the beauty of my brand of evil and there are tens of thousands like me. You call in a system that produces millions of ppl that would be too domesticated to resist me, cattle to feed my lust. I am everywhere, because I am nature itself. Nature is cruelty, nature is power.
why does everyone have the right. to the things you list at the end. where did this RIGHT come from? it would be nice but it isn't a right. would football be fun if everyone was the same (soc)? NO you have the Steelers, & Patriots.....but someone has to be the Lions. that is life.
Jesus was a carpender.....but his Dad was an IRONWORKER!!!!! who is going to pay the bank that holds the title for the house so a homeless, unemplyed person can live there? us Tax payers? Under Clinton groups like accorn forced banks to loan money to minor. for houses they could not afford. I'm a union tradesman & have a 150k house. I see blk security gaurds in my area in 300k homes. how are they afford. that? they aren't! people need to live in there means.
You must be retarded. The whole point of this video is the guy is aginst capitalism. Nobody will pay anybody and there will be no bank. Please read before you write.
great video, i made it through 48 seconds. I'm sure the video continued and had actual footage of bush personally evicting the tent city members. Fucking socialist slime.
well. switch to communism, watch another Stalin come into power. G ointo socialism, watch the gov't tax the crap out of you until you're poor and turn the country into a police state (refer to a lot of European Countries) Or no, maybe Totalitarianism is a great offer. NO! Capitalism is the only best we've go stick with it. But remember this, Capitalism needs a strong support, and the way the US has been for generations, Capitalism is surely being corrupt. We just need more intelligent useful ppl
Either system can be manipulated and there seems to be no right answer either way. People in any system need only to educate themselves to make it right.
Oh and what you describe as communism, is in fact Marxism. The two are not mutually exclusive.
If you had reflected a moment on what I wrote before launching in with the insults, you might have noticed that I was citing the janitor as a typical member of the largest class of owners of capital in America: investors in retirement funds. As a group, these people control far more capital than wealthy individuals. I was not comparing an individual janitor to a Rockefeller.
CEOs, which might meet your definition of "capitalist" do rent themselves out for wages, albeit high wages.
It is true that in a free market economy, business owners pursue profit. How? By attempting to satisfy the needs of others. Profits accrue in proportion to effective service to humanity.
Who are these greedy pursuers of profit? Mainly middle class retirement savers with mutual funds and pension funds, and retirees living off the same.
The average capitalist is a school janitor with a pension, not the monopoly man lighting cigars with hundred dollar bills.
Thanks for the ridiculous comment. "The average capitalist is a school janitor." That was funny. Owning a few stocks isn't what makes someone a capitalist. What's the difference between your janitor and David Rockefeller? Control. One owns stock in name only. The other owns it and actually exerts control. Big difference. Furthermore, a capitalist doesn't rent him or herself out for wages. They make their living on rents, royalties, interest, and dividends. Now go learn something important.
I thought your provocative video opened an interesting discussion. I'm sad to learn from your response to me that you are just another purveyor of anger and insults.
I'll discuss these issues with someone who shows respect to his intellectual adversaries, not with you.
Sorry but when you say something as silly as a janitor is a capitalist you lose all credibility. If it was one stupid, ignorant comment, no problem. But I deal with these so much that it just gets old. I have no desire to have a discussion with someone who thinks janitors are capitalists. Have a good day.
In our short exchange, I've been called ridiculous, funny (ironically), silly, stupid, not credible, and ignorant. This based on a simple difference of opinion.
Years ago I spent 3 months in a Therevada monestary in Thailand. I certainly never encountered an attitude like yours!
@buddhagem Now why would a janitor not be a capitalist? Do you even know what a capitalist is?
Im pretty sure even janitors want to pay as litle as possible for theire food, rent or other activities. That infact is capitalism. The janitor wants to get as much as possible without squandering too much of the available resources.
If you think capitalism is throwing ppl out on the street. Take a look at all other forms of running societies, and you quickly notice same thing occur.
@buddhagem What is my point with that. Well, its not acctually capitalism that is the failing link, its acctually humans. These ppl that have been thrown out on the street, you probably blame some business men doing theire job. But why dont you also blame theire neightbours that could have chiped in with som money to help them.
If there are no consequences to bad actions, why would ppl pay theire bills or work? If work is what ppl want, why did slaves revolt? They had work all theire life.
A year later, I'm sorry if he took my janitor and Monopoly man comment personally. It wasn't meant that way. It was meant as a colorful illustration of a point, i.e., that wealth is more democratically distributed in capitalist countries than in socialist countries.
For this I was called stupid, ignorant, etc. etc . I've got nothing against the guy. I admire carpenters and Buddhists. We might have a lot in common. I just think he's wrong.
The wealthiest 1% owns about 1/3 of all assets. But the largest fraction of stockholders is retirement savers, who own shares in the form of mutual funds, govt pension funds, and the like.
About 60% of US families are owners of corporations, i.e, stockholders.
Keep in mind, too, that the wealth percentiles are not static. Most people in the bottom 20% rise out of it, many of them to the top 20%.
Capitalism is not perfect, but socialism doesn't come close in fairness.
State control of capital sounds fair, but in reality it always becomes a political spoils system. The "dictatorship of the proletariat" somehow never goes away.
What do tent cities have to do with Free Market Capitalism? You list high housing costs, unemployment, and economic downturns as the cause, all of which are deeply rooted in government intervention. You demonstrate you ignorance even further by saying that we have a surplus of houses right after that, if we had a free market the price of these would come down to where people could afford them, instead it is propped up by the government. This is Facism not Capitalism retard, learn economics.
OK so if you don't like Capitalism, what would you like? Socialism perhaps? What? Please tell me...Numbers of homeless are one thing, what about numbers of those homeless who took out loans that they couldn't afford? What are the numbers on Illegal Aliens? What about those not looking for work? What about those unhireable who are using drugs acquired from the open borders?
The answer is not one answer to problems. You make a system that works for all not for some. The reason why people are fleeing their countries and come to US indocumented is because we have exploited their resources, culture, traditions, systems that rot from within. They are just trying to survive. What would you do if you lived in a city where murders, theft, hunger, stench, corruption was an every day thing and you just wanted to escape that shit that was the effect of certain powers?
I would like to know what exactly is the problem with the illegal aliens and why exactly do you refer to the borders as being "open" because I live in a border town, I have crossed the border twice a month my entire lifetime and as far as I know the points of entry are heavily guarded even with dogs that sniff your under, how many times have you crossed back and forth to Mexico?? I have the feeling that you don't really know what you're talking about and that you have never crossed the border.
buddhagem is clueless for sure. He demands the government put his pants on for him then whines and whines when they kick his leftist friends out of their beloved tent city, lol.
The vast majority of wealthy people, and the majority of those who will be wealthy, are that way as a result of inheritance, "luck of the draw (born in exploiter nations versus exploited) or a job that does not provide material benefit to the community.
There's nothing wrong with helping others, and in fact it is helping others that gives everyone an opportunity to be "the best they can be", cliché as that sounds.
$2 a day is also still quite abysmal anyway. Many, many people live on a dollar a day, and most of the world is capitalist. Enough said.
I have no interest in trading remarks on YouTube comments any more though. No offense, I just find other sites more productive for discussion, at least until I've got a camera. I just thought I'd respond since you seemed like one of the more respectful commenters here.
Thanks NaturalSelection. I try not to offend, but there are comments I feel should be addressed, such as your belief that most of the world lives in a capitalist economy, which is far from the economic reality. Since we both have a common goal of making public comments that ultimately are of use to society's struggling, its important to engage in discussions where these vids are originally presented.. If you do not want to partake, thats okay. I look forward to your future vids. Cheers, Rob.
My family escaped a socialist political society in order to start again as debt-ridden, uneducated, non-english speaking citizens in the west one generation ago. Demonstrably having less resources than the homeless you speak of this video. (debt, no education, no english language skills) we all succeeded. Its not public handouts they were looking for it was opportunity, in their case low wage menial jobs. Capitalism is a godsend.
Good for you. Unfortunately your experience is not the norm and it's why we look at statistics and not anecdotal evidence in order to evaluate things. I know it's easy to think that if you did it, everyone can do it; but I'd suggest you look into this more deeply.
It wasnt just my family it was thousands in the 1970s who *still* 40 years later are well established productive members of western culture. There were homeless citizens in those days too, and those perenially stuck on welfare. But they were 3rd, 4th, 5th generation . I do look at this more deeply, and the only practical difference I can pinpoint is the mentality of those involved and their social circles.
I don't know why you're bothering me, because I had decided not to bother commenting here since someone made a stupid comment about how I should be allowing a homeless person to live in "my home" (I will of course do what I can to help others, despite the attacks on me, but that disregards the problem that the wealthiest few have the most power to help).
As buddhagem said, it's not about anecdotes. it's also not about improvements from development that do not require capitalism.
look, first of all, we must keep capitalism. we just have to get governments to STOP inflation, and start helping the poor get their act together so they can live a life again. second, we must know more morals and values, such as its good to donate to charity and stuff. we just basically have to organize things better. and i think we should enlarge democracy, like give citizens more power over wat the government is deciding to do and stuff.
Hi Alpin. The reason I ask is because it is often the case that all levels of society do in fact increase in wealth overall, but people grow resentful when one portion grows richer faster than another. Some people rank 'income equality' over 'income'. ie, they believe its better to shrink gaps among rich and poor (even if it means lowered standards for all) then it is to increase levels for both disproportionately, For example, France sets the 'poverty' line to anyone below the 50% average.
Well I definitely think when the poor people are living in conditions where survival is hard that the gap should be shrunk to increase their living standards.
It does not bother me if someone else is richer than me, but if I was living in squalor while they buy their fourth car I'd certainly get resentful.
Hi Alpin. I think the important thing is not how many more cars one has, but what opportunities exist for pulling yourself out of squalor. If that person bought that car through immoral means, than I agree with you. If they bought that car legally, then more power to them. Giving away the cash that buys an extra car only generates temporary solution, but buying a car involves the employment of thousands of people ultimately and re-invests that money into a working economy.
The problem is when someone's born into squalor it's really quite difficult to pull yourself out.
And with the cars, my problem is that people just buy so much useless crap that they don't need, while others are dying from starvation constantly. The money for that car could be put towards better things.
If you dislike squalor, promote economic opportunity. The number of people living on less than $2 a day has halved since the 1980s as globalization spreads, in areas specifically open to increased trade. In the early 80's vietnam went from a wheat importer to a wheat exporter. Look at the rise of standard of living of the lower class in Russia, China, India as their economies move away from centrally planned to free market reform. Is it actual results or 'good intentions' you care about?
Most are helpless, particularly in countries where multinational corporations run the show. In the West, we see a more mild side of capitalism because we benefit so much from cheap labour in the poorer capitalist countries. Still, even in the West, there is injustice in the sense that some must manage to pull themselves out of poverty while an elite few have an easy life full of riches despite not providing anything useful to their community.
If people are homeless it is because they live in a society that espouses the philosophy of enforced public welfare over personal private responsibility. Caring about something that is the governments official role is just redundant so we dont. And where are these countries suffering from the West? Is it S.E asia where the number of people living on less than $2 a day (even adjusted for inflation) has halved since the 1980's, the highest increases where trade barriers were removed? Tell me.
to borrow from Lew Rockwell: we owe all our material possession to centuries of capital accumulation at the hands of free people who have put capital to work, at once competing with others for profit and cooperating with millions upon millions of people in an ever-expanding global network of the division of labor. The savings, investments, risks, and work of hundreds of years and uncountable numbers of free people have gone into making this possible.
If you care about these people, invite some of them to live in your home. Be a good communist. Don't force others to accomodate them.
"houses, fields, and factories will no longer be private property, and that they will belong to the commune or the nation and money, wages, and trade would be abolished." -Kropotkin
If you're going to continue in this infantile dialogue, speaking about things you don't understand, I'm not going to respond. I suppose you think it makes sense to bulldoze down perfectly good homes, brand new homes (as is now being done across the country) while we have millions of people who have no home. Why don't you be a good invidualist and make it on your own. Stop using technology, roads, and services created and provided by others. You're nothing but a parasite.
Speaking of parasites, what exactly do you call the millions on welfare riding the backs of the true workers in society. You miss the point of capitalism, TO MAKE MONEY! The inventor innovates and SELLS what he invents. The BUYER then uses the invention. Both parties win. The homeless don't have a right to a house they don't own. Not when others have to work to pay for theirs. I have no sympathy for these people.
Except that's not plausible for many, now unemployed, workers. You know who does have the space? The wealthy elite who inherited their fortunes or got crucial investment capital from people they were lucky enough to know because of who their family is/where they were born.
No, what we want is, as buddhagem has made clear, a society where houses are made for living in, not for personal profit. Advocating THAT is being a good Communist.
Then let people move in your house with you! Get started with your communist agenda before forcing it on others. If it works out well for you, I'm sure others will want to join you.
I'm sure you have the room to invite at least one derelict into your house, so please do so if you wish to be a good communist rather than a self-righteous hypocrite that you so clearly are.
I ask you this- what alternative system of government do you suppose? In theory, communism is all about improving the common wealth, but in what case in history has this system of government proved effective and not turned out to be based on greed? The simple fact is this- the world runs on individuals pursuing their seperate interests- no economic system in history has proved more likely to improve the conditions of the average citizen than the enormous productivity unleashed by a freemarket.
Socialism would have been feasible back when Marx devised the theory. But with the technology we have today and the existence of a middle class, makes the Marxist economic theory outdated. Eternal boss/worker conflict will remain, however.
I agree and don't like this "I'm a victim" propaganda.
I am conflicted though...when it comes to true victims. (Eg. some guy has stroke and can barely function on their own...a woman/man and her kids are abused by a spouse who is the family breadwinner..)
Do we help these people? And how can a system be set up to distinguish between true victims versus the fake ones in the video?
You're music is too loud.
davidbeast123 3 days ago
If you grow up in a communist country . You will know how lucky are you. Now,we live in difficult time of the world. So, US have been effect too. You think: Communist do they care about a poor? If yes, I dare you throw American citizen to gabage. Go to live in North Korea. If you said US don't care for poor people.
MrWrongevolution 1 month ago
@MrWrongevolution you call north Korea communist? you don't know a god damn thing about communism. If they were truly communist they wouldn't have a leader, or a state because its completely communal. We are talking political theory, your talking about little fucking sound bites from ill informed bimbo looking bitches on fox news haha. real communism, to me, seems naive. but highly regulated social-capitalist economies makes much more sense.
dudeonthasopha 2 weeks ago
got to love a so called anarchist using world GOVT laws. LOL
If we ever got real global anarchy, all the nonsense you flashed across the screen at the end would not even be possible in the slightest.
WHO is going to insure shelter and healthcare for people when you have NO govt? The answer is, NO ONE will insure anything but themselves and THAT is anarchism.
Socialism is COMPLETELY incompatible with anarchism.
ptbwf 2 months ago
This isn't capitalism, it's corporate greed run amok
TheDano1947 3 months ago
All political systems that benefit the dumb majority are crazy
GodOfUnbelief 4 months ago
Dude your idea of capitalism is totally distorted, as is Michael Moore's. Bank deregulation is what caused the problem when the Clinton administration ended the Glass Steagall Act, therefor banks were handing out enormous loans to Americans to buy homes they couldn't afford in the first place, and then when the banks wound with bad assets, the appeal to the government for a bailout, backed by taxpayers AND the Fed (which further devalued the dollar). That's not capitalism, that FRAUD.
torylelandkirgiss 6 months ago
Kill all socialists.
SteinbergRothschild 7 months ago
needs to be bought.
I'm glad to find a post of yours though, because I forgot that I had an unfinished discussion with you some time ago. You asked me what languages am I studying if I remember correctly. I'm learning Japanese, but I got caught by other debates and I completely forgot about our "off the record" discussion.
Vict0r1984 7 months ago
establishments (apartments were actually free). Now, a child still gets to share his bedroom with one of his parents, and he can't afford a place of his own when he grows up even if he is a banker. The only way is paying rent somewhere, and that is very expensive in big cities too. Capitalism fails much more than socialism in providing decent housing, and that because in capitalism houses are seen as commodities, (not survival necessities which must be granted without payment) and a commodity
Vict0r1984 7 months ago
@mixmastermeeks: Here in Eastern Europe, most of the children still share bedrooms with their parents, and after the fall of socialism in 1989, the construction of houses and blocks of apartments stalled completely (except for extremely expensive villas)... During the times of the Warsaw pact, things were in constant improvement as better housing complexes appeared over the years, and the construction of residential buildings was sky-high because more manpower was needed by industrial
Vict0r1984 7 months ago
Zoning laws were created by greedy speculators that want land and real estate prices to rise for more profit and higher rents. Therefore, lower income persons are priced right out of a living space. Plain and simple. Even the poorest persons OUTSIDE of the USA live with some sort of roof over their head. Now you know why American has tent cities!
ABOLISH ZONING LAWS....NOW!!!!
missionarymayn 8 months ago
Eliminate zoning laws and there will be affordable housing for all. BTW...most of the world lives quite well w/o zoning laws. I'm an American living in Thailand. You can rent a nice house for about $50/month If you don't give a shit and just want a place to lay your head...about $10/month If you want to earn money, just build a push-cart and start selling food or whatever...no license-no problem! The only homeless people here are the mentally ill. And even they're hard to find!
missionarymayn 8 months ago 2
In socialist Russia Housing was in short supply. There is a video of the comedian Yakov Smirnoff talking about living in a communal apartment with a few other families and how as a child he had to share a bedroom with his parents. A good example of a system thats purpose was to provide housing for everyone and it failed.
mixmastermeeks 8 months ago
Thank GOD USA does not have Death Squads.
mba2ceo 9 months ago
If you agree with this, which I certainly do, watch some of the Zeitgeist Movement's videos.
sliverpool9 1 year ago
socialism is not an answer to homelessness, the only answer to homeless is rehabilitation and being able to control your own life. Socialism makes the homeless a burden to the hardworking people who have taken control of their lives. Capitalism is the only way this nation can bring itself out of debt.
tyuru2 1 year ago
@tyuru2 socialism is the same as capitalism in that both pay the worker more for a better quality and quantity of work; the difference is that socialism is about the worker owning the means of production. communism is the one where the homeless become a burden, but for a truly communist society there has to be a superabundance of goods which would mean homelessness would no longer exist.
chicheater1 8 months ago
The US is no longer a capitalist society, it more closely resembles fascism n has been much more since 2001. We show most of the 14 defining characteristics of it including a controlled corporate media. Monsanto, goldman sachs, cfr, Carlyle group, monsanto n others are n bed with the feds n shape our foreign n domestic policy, laws, etc which makes the US a corporatist, fascist nation. Not saying pure capitalism would work but I know the feds dont give a damn about the states or the people
william0873 1 year ago
blue222 pls spare us your lame Physics analogies; capitalism is not a "law of nature" - its a human concept and mode of economic organization that, someday soon (the next 50-100yrs), like feudalism, will be the fodder for History doctoral theses.
bradygate 1 year ago
Stupid.
straydoglogic 1 year ago
This is what happens when the state is more willing to enforce property rights than actually help people.
SecularNumanist 1 year ago
Nothing you addressed in this video had anything to do with capitalism. I'm not saying this to troll you, but please educate yourself before posting yet another video on "capitalism" or anything related to economics. All you are doing is opening yourself to attacks, which in all fairness, are very much deserved.
PhoenixFlag1776 1 year ago 2
Capitalism is designed to fullfill peoples needs. It's goverment interferance that screw up the capitalist economy. As goverment want's everyone to be able to squander resources, even thouse who do not produce or contribute to the economy.
Capitalism is acctually the basic law of nature. Free trade is a good complemntary to capitalsim, as that lets individuals exchange goods and services with each other as they them selves desire.
If you dont like capitalism, you sure dont like mother nature.
Warzoooooo 1 year ago
@Warzoooooo
"Capitalism is actually a basic law of nature". "If you don't like capitalism, you sure don't like mother nature". I agree 100%.
Men, like frogs, flowers, and amebas, evolve and grow over time. They are always desiring more and better. They are progressive by nature.
Capitalism harnesses this impulse. In a system of open trade, one gets more from his neighbor only by offering more to him. Both benefit and the economy evolves.
Capitalists are the true "progressives".
blue222blue 1 year ago
@Warzoooooo
Socialism is not progressive. It's main idea, government redistribution of wealth, assumes a closed static economic system. Billiard balls hitting each other in different ways. Newtonian mechanics.
Capitalism's main idea, that freedom optimizes wealth and fairness in a society, assumes an open, growing economic system. The expanding universe going back to the Big Bang. Quantum mechanics.
Socialism was tried, extensively, and failed. 100,000,000 people died under that system.
blue222blue 1 year ago
@blue222blue Exactly! In socialism poverty flourish, because it is putting ppl in a possition where it is acctually no longer worth taking the risk of beeing an entreprenur, and simply just take the money offered. Cause if you would accept a job, you would loose your govt. benefits. But these all systems are not to fighet poverty, but to buy politicians votes. They dont care about poor peaple, they care about the huge sallary they can collect as politicians. And of course socsialsm =less freedom
Warzoooooo 1 year ago
@Warzoooooo
Boy are you right that it's not about the poor people. Whenever we get lower govt interference in the economy, we get higher output, more jobs, more money for social programs, and more charitable giving. In the US, this happened in the 20s, the 60's and the 80s.
For years the country with the highest per capita income was Hong Kong, a tiny overpopulated isle with no natural resources, but a low flat tax rate. Africa, blessed with natural abundance, starves under socialism.
blue222blue 1 year ago
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i am an evil capitalists that likes youtube brought to u by capitalist and i like my job were i work 40 hours and i get a paycheack at the end of the week were 62%of my money has to go to these free loaders like this guy who cant get a job ha ha ha i allso like the fact that i have a job because the evil boss who by the way is an evil capitalists created the job so i could work oh did i forget if it wasnt for capitalists he wouldent have a webcam or a computer or electric to power the
tarastrucker 1 year ago
i am an evil capitalists that likes youtube brought to u by capitalist and i like my job were i work 40 hours and i get a paycheack at the end of the week were 62%of my money has to go to these free loaders like this guy who cant get a job ha ha ha i allso like the fact that i have a job because the evil boss who by the way is an evil capitalists created the job so i could work oh did i forget if it wasnt for capitalists he wouldent have a webcam or a home or a computer or electric to power the
tarastrucker 1 year ago
@tarastrucker
buddhagem does have a job, hes a carpenter.
SecularNumanist 1 year ago
i am an evil capitalists that likes youtube brought to u by capitalist and i like my job were i work 40 hours and i get a paycheack at the end of the week were 62%of my money has to go to these free loaders like this guy who cant get a job ha ha ha i allso like the fact that i have a job because the evil boss who by the way is an evil capitalists created the job so i could work oh did i forget if it wasnt for capitalists he wouldent have a webcam or a home or a computer or electric to power the
tarastrucker 1 year ago
very touching video, but i dont see how these problems are too do with capitalism.
couldnt you get rid of minimum wage so companies can afford to take on more employees for less and stay in business at the same time, it would then mean that less people are jobless. sure, theyre earning less, but theyre still receiving SOME income.
just a question though, im an anarchist myself so im not trying to 'pwn" you or anything.
Ilikenuman 1 year ago
@helltrackrider
"If only the homeless made themselves valuable to the market."
Fuck you. It's such a free country we live in where every single thought and behavior is rooted by greed. That's the standard everyone must live up to or be cast out into the wilderness.
catbuffalo 1 year ago
This guy is a VICTIM crying over other VICTIMS. I understand that 25% of the people have mental disorders. The rest are lazy, drug addicted victims that think the Government should take care of them. WTF is this world coming to? Your Great Grandparents would smack the living shit out of you. Lazy victims who want what I have and not willing to earn it. They steal it. What is this world coming to?
debtavenger 1 year ago
A pareto efficiency does not exist in any monetary system, therefore it cannot work for all......DONE!
There is evidence that intellect=co-cooperation. Technology is what will free us from labour, not more labour!
loppist 1 year ago
A pareto efficiency does not exist in any monetary system, therefore it cannot work for all......DONE!
loppist 1 year ago
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How would you make this world a better place? Would you simply give government more power to take from those who have & given to those who have not? The problem is that those who have the most money will always have the most influence in any government. Make government as small as possible. Allowing freedom and opportunity. Help those less fortunate without government. Who lately has been getting help from government, the homeless? No the big banks you know , too big to fail.
mike1234ontv 1 year ago
this video made me cry, this is one of the main reasons i became a socialist. too many ppl in this world are suffering and if we all wake up from this day dream of capitalism we could make the world a better place for all.
x1600meterman 1 year ago
@x1600meterman How would you make this world a better place? Would you simply give government more power to take from those who have & given to those who have not? The problem is that those who have the most money will always have the most influence in any government. Make government as small as possible. Allowing freedom and opportunity. Help those less fortunate without government. Who lately has been getting help from government, the homeless? No the big banks you know , too big to fail.
mike1234ontv 1 year ago
Free market capitalism is not a utopia. Capitalism is bad compared to what? What is a better alternative to capitalism? We've seen other economic systems results such as socialism, communism, mixed economic systems. HistoricalIy I cant see how they produce results any better than capitalism. Generally I see that living standards are highest in nations where markets and individuals are most free.
no3commando 1 year ago
You are stupid americans. Your shit ass government evicted them so they can not unite and condemn savage capitalism that denaturates human beeings. We need healthy capitalism where the human is beeing regarded as a flower that needs to blossom. WE NEED HEALTHY CAPITALISM : ONE FOR ALL AND ALL FOR ONE. COMUNISM IS NOT AN OPTION IS JUST A LIE TO PUT SOME FOG IN A CERTAIN COUNTRY SO PEOPLE CAN THINK THEY ARE PROTECTED FROM EXPLOATATION. ALL BIG LIES TO KEEP US ALWAYS IN A BLURR.
75649674 2 years ago
fair capitalism, or as you call it "one for all and all for one" is called socialism.
NeroroPuj 1 year ago
@MrSuperpunch019
Tell me, why is regulation necessary? Why allow bureaucrats, who know nothing about the nature of business, to meddle in the economic affairs of private citizens.enterprises?
XxxNuMbxxX0301 2 years ago
"We live in one of the wealthiest nations on the planet."
Wrong, we live in the largest debtor nation in the history of the world. Don't worry though Obama reappointed Bernanke who will print money until he runs out of trees. You think it's bad now just wait until the government solution drives gas prices to $10 a gallon, then $20, then $50. America doesn't know the true meaning of poor. But, we're all about to learn real quick.
TheMobocracy 2 years ago
1:35
yea that seems like a lot of people but when you break it down thats less then 1%
andretheking86 2 years ago
those are authoritarian state capitalist countries you called socialism and communism, You can't make a generalist blanket statement on what something is so all that oppose capitalism are all the authoritarian types of socialism and that's it. That is a illogical thought process called dualism.
PsykodelikCyoldier 2 years ago
As far as I know when I look in history most communist nations and socialist nations have a lot more bloodshed in them. Dont get fooled and mislead by this bullshit. And its not capitalism its corportism to blame for this shit
wishingfreedom 2 years ago
there is plenty of bloodshed for capitalism aswel, But if regulated and created right for the government communism would be a great systematic
Kovenflash33 2 years ago
capitalism is horse shit. all forms of major government is. less federal government is the way. more local. the american government was set up to protect the people not regulate. the people were suppose to control it, now it controls us.
DixieOfDeKalbCounty 2 years ago
"capitalism is horse shit. all forms of major government is."
Capitalism is an economic system, not a form of government.
"the american government was set up to protect the people not regulate."
Absolutely correct. The less regulation the better. This is the essence of capitalism: freedom from governmental regulation.
XxxNuMbxxX0301 2 years ago
Blame it on the deamning of the youth, the dumbing down of generations, and the fear that is impaled into your heads as both children and adults.
Kovenflash33 2 years ago
@DixieOfDeKalbCounty hit it on the nose Dixie.
More Local!!!
Each person, community, city, county, state is different and individual from each other.
A federal government should be at the bottom of the pyramid, not the top.
MilanTbay 2 years ago
thanks man, what we have in america right now is a mild form of commnuism. the people need to be free from central gavernment and capitolism.
DixieOfDeKalbCounty 2 years ago
...And Capitalism didnt create an over supply in housing...
Fucking retarded politicians demanding, sorry, mandating that certain races and certain pay scales MUST be given loans...thus, of course, people bought out of their pay scale and now have had to give back their home because they cannot afford the house...
whose fault is this...
Capitalism...No
Government...Partly
Banks...No
The people who bought the house....YES.
helltrackrider 2 years ago
Don't bother explaining to buddhagem the nature of the Community Reinvestment Act which ruined the US economy. He won't be able to understand since he isn't very smart. He's the kind of guy who demands regulation despite stuff like that happening.
leeason1 2 years ago
Wow...thats alot of homeless...
imagine, if we didnt have a RIDICULOUS TAX system...how many jobs could be created for these homeless ones...or better yet, if these homeless (majority of them anyways) would have took time in their lives to make theirselves valuable to the Market instead of wasting it on sex, drugs and rock and roll...just saying...
Oh yeah, dont compare Bush to Capitalism....he is far from a Capitalist.
helltrackrider 2 years ago
@helltrackrider Bush is an awesome capitalist. Him and his family have made A LOT of money capitalizing on America and the world as a whole.
Obama is an even better capitalist.
Monsanto is perfect capitalist corporation and will soon corner the market on the worlds food supply. Yes people will starve but the profits will soar!!!
MilanTbay 2 years ago
How much were they paid before? Beter yet, what did they do before? All those outsourced jobs are contributing to the huge economic and residential building boom that is happening in India right now. Many Indians are living happily with those two dollars a day, living lifestyles that they would not have lived without them.
eventually they will demand higher paychecks, this is always inevitable so dont bitch about how much they make if they are content at the moment.
john38235133 2 years ago
We suck out products and inject capitol and jobs to third world countries, we sure are some twisted vampires.
john38235133 2 years ago
America sucks. Free association and private property rights FTW.
Robinsonero 2 years ago
Welcome to the real world. Where americans kill indians, germans kill jews, chinese kill their own, russians kill georgians... Perpahps you would be happier on mars? -f america was founded on genocide, then what was europe founded on?
toneeeeeee 2 years ago
This whole thing is a big joke. When I get the book, I will cite the damn source that counted the number of empty beds and homeless in this country and uncovered how many empty beds go payed for every day. Homelessness in this country is a joke compared to almost any other country on the planet. It's a political tool that taps into lame brains like this guy. Over half of the homeless are addicted to drugs or alcohol. I mean...seriously people? You wonder why people are homeless? Good. Lord.
toneeeeeee 2 years ago
LOL, the stupidity gets worse by the day. Homelessness is a joke ROFL....Over half...LMAO...wow, did you just get up from a long sleep there Rumpelstiltskin? The only joke is you tonedeaf. Oh god, thanks for the laughs.
Yep, another idiot making excuses to be an ass. Really tonedeaf, do you really need an excuse. Ignorance and ass just oozes from you. No need to hide. Just be. It's ok, really.
medicatedsaint 2 years ago
Instead of pointing out where i was wrong, you laugh at the incredulity of my statement becuase it isn't what you hear about on NBC. If ou were to ask them, anyone who is a 'minority' or anyone who isn't a corporate thief is homeless. Would you like me to embarrass you and cite the source? Or should you find it yourself and quite while you're ahead?
You're medicated alright. Loser. LMAO OMD LOL ROFL learn to think for yourself and wake up to what's actually happening in the world.
toneeeeeee 2 years ago
Please embarrass me tonedeaf. I insist. You can't because you go by a source you haven't sited. Even if you do I will dismantle it. All this shows me is that you can't think for yourself. You have no life knowledge/experience. You immediately assume all homelessness is a cause of laziness combined with drugs and alcohol. You dilute the info with stupidity and don't investigate. Wake up? I am awake. I was never asleep. I don't accept bullshit like you do.
medicatedsaint 2 years ago
The source I am about to CITE, with a c, (maybe this isn't your arena) is the National Coalition for the Homeless. According to them. 38% of the homless are addicted to alcohol and 26% abused drugs. Add those up, and you get about 50% Of course they can do both thereby 'lowering' the statistic, but considering the number of homeless is in the 850,000 area, i would assure this is enough to raise eyebrows.
toneeeeeee 2 years ago
Unfortunately, Asshole, your scapegoat, capitalism, is not the problem. How do you know what experience I have? I've been to numerous countries around the world and the ones that are overwhelmingly social, have more homeless. I didn't assume everyone homeless was addicted. I never even said that. You're an angry activist on a warpath. Of course people who are hard working make mistakes and need help.
toneeeeeee 2 years ago
That's why homelessness should be a transitional period. What with all the welfare, free housing, free beds, goodwill clothing, etc. How do people actually manage to stay homeless? Of course those with mental illnesses need help, but how do you expect to find these people living on the street. Why don't you start finding them and get of your damn computer. I have done nothing that i need to defend myself for. You are a tool for politics if you believe ANYTHING this video says. Prove me wrong. GO
toneeeeeee 2 years ago
LOL, I volunteer at the local homeless shelter here. I donate blankets, coats, food etc.. Help with serving dinner. I also volunteer some time during the holidays. If you don't give a shit then DON'T. No one asked you to come here and make comments about something you have no idea about.
medicatedsaint 2 years ago
Good for you. No one is trying to take that away from you. You should be proud of the time you sacrifice.
But you still didn't prove me wrong. Like most liberals, you don't like facts being thrown in your face, because it undermines what you think is 'right' and highlights the ultimate futility of solving the homeless problem. As proven in this video, they use homelessness to inspire hate against those who believe in a for profit system. Sounds like our country alright! Try another arena.
toneeeeeee 2 years ago
WHAT FACTS you DUMBASS! LOL :)
When did I say "for profit" was bad. I will not help you with the concept in balancing profit and community responsibility. Which I know you will immediately convey as a liberal blah de blah blah. Sorry you can't think beyond those two spectrums of liberal and conservative.
If solving the homeless problem is saying there isn't a problem like you imply then I have some bridges in the Pacific to sell you...hahHAhA. Just stop, I have no more gum, gum for dumb dumb.
medicatedsaint 2 years ago
Stick to music. This is not your arena.
medicatedsaint 2 years ago
You claim to be a buddist Budda, but I dont believe you. A true Buddist would know about THE OTHER SIDE to Buddism. I asked you about the 4 things that were always true and you didnt know them as a buddist should..i have seen BEYOND those 4 things and found my own answer to Sidattha's statements. If he was correct then life is meaningless, so instead of the middle way, I choose MY way..the way of nature and its conflict.
Gloomshadow1 2 years ago
LOL, you haven't seen the true emptiness of this world. Stop lying and deceiving Mara. It is about the session of suffering not creating more. Ignorance, hate, and attachment. The "MY way..." shows me just how ignorant, hateful and attached you are. I hope you don't hurt yourself with your red light saber Sith want a be. LOL
medicatedsaint 2 years ago
Edit: ...secession of suffering...
medicatedsaint 2 years ago
oh, shut up you cunt!
Gloomshadow1 2 years ago
Everything is about power, Budda. Your flowery ideas about Socialism and Eutopia are ideas of power too. You live in a dream world, any power you give me I can pervert to serve me and destroy my enemies, thats the beauty of my brand of evil and there are tens of thousands like me. You call in a system that produces millions of ppl that would be too domesticated to resist me, cattle to feed my lust. I am everywhere, because I am nature itself. Nature is cruelty, nature is power.
Gloomshadow1 2 years ago
how can a christian state support capitalism i dnt get it
shaunikeda2007 2 years ago
ok.... you really over did the graphics and music.... seriously what the fuck?
poleske 2 years ago
Capitalism its just not real/logic/technical.
Is all about profit...
AzoreanProud 2 years ago
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yjh606 2 years ago
work for socialist!
yjh606 2 years ago
amazing video.
what's the name of the ending song?
AfroNinja101SK 2 years ago
why does everyone have the right. to the things you list at the end. where did this RIGHT come from? it would be nice but it isn't a right. would football be fun if everyone was the same (soc)? NO you have the Steelers, & Patriots.....but someone has to be the Lions. that is life.
bulkfull 2 years ago
Jesus was a carpender.....but his Dad was an IRONWORKER!!!!! who is going to pay the bank that holds the title for the house so a homeless, unemplyed person can live there? us Tax payers? Under Clinton groups like accorn forced banks to loan money to minor. for houses they could not afford. I'm a union tradesman & have a 150k house. I see blk security gaurds in my area in 300k homes. how are they afford. that? they aren't! people need to live in there means.
bulkfull 2 years ago
You must be retarded. The whole point of this video is the guy is aginst capitalism. Nobody will pay anybody and there will be no bank. Please read before you write.
poleske 2 years ago
And if they have the means to procure a loan...
D0g63rt 2 years ago
Two words. Federal Reserve.
Scoforever 2 years ago
great video, i made it through 48 seconds. I'm sure the video continued and had actual footage of bush personally evicting the tent city members. Fucking socialist slime.
mgard84 2 years ago
well. switch to communism, watch another Stalin come into power. G ointo socialism, watch the gov't tax the crap out of you until you're poor and turn the country into a police state (refer to a lot of European Countries) Or no, maybe Totalitarianism is a great offer. NO! Capitalism is the only best we've go stick with it. But remember this, Capitalism needs a strong support, and the way the US has been for generations, Capitalism is surely being corrupt. We just need more intelligent useful ppl
Chrisspy704 2 years ago
Either system can be manipulated and there seems to be no right answer either way. People in any system need only to educate themselves to make it right.
Oh and what you describe as communism, is in fact Marxism. The two are not mutually exclusive.
trehansen 2 years ago
If you had reflected a moment on what I wrote before launching in with the insults, you might have noticed that I was citing the janitor as a typical member of the largest class of owners of capital in America: investors in retirement funds. As a group, these people control far more capital than wealthy individuals. I was not comparing an individual janitor to a Rockefeller.
CEOs, which might meet your definition of "capitalist" do rent themselves out for wages, albeit high wages.
blue222blue 2 years ago
It is true that in a free market economy, business owners pursue profit. How? By attempting to satisfy the needs of others. Profits accrue in proportion to effective service to humanity.
Who are these greedy pursuers of profit? Mainly middle class retirement savers with mutual funds and pension funds, and retirees living off the same.
The average capitalist is a school janitor with a pension, not the monopoly man lighting cigars with hundred dollar bills.
blue222blue 2 years ago
Thanks for the ridiculous comment. "The average capitalist is a school janitor." That was funny. Owning a few stocks isn't what makes someone a capitalist. What's the difference between your janitor and David Rockefeller? Control. One owns stock in name only. The other owns it and actually exerts control. Big difference. Furthermore, a capitalist doesn't rent him or herself out for wages. They make their living on rents, royalties, interest, and dividends. Now go learn something important.
buddhagem 2 years ago
I thought your provocative video opened an interesting discussion. I'm sad to learn from your response to me that you are just another purveyor of anger and insults.
I'll discuss these issues with someone who shows respect to his intellectual adversaries, not with you.
blue222blue 2 years ago
Sorry but when you say something as silly as a janitor is a capitalist you lose all credibility. If it was one stupid, ignorant comment, no problem. But I deal with these so much that it just gets old. I have no desire to have a discussion with someone who thinks janitors are capitalists. Have a good day.
buddhagem 2 years ago
In our short exchange, I've been called ridiculous, funny (ironically), silly, stupid, not credible, and ignorant. This based on a simple difference of opinion.
Years ago I spent 3 months in a Therevada monestary in Thailand. I certainly never encountered an attitude like yours!
You have a good day, too.
blue222blue 2 years ago
@buddhagem Now why would a janitor not be a capitalist? Do you even know what a capitalist is?
Im pretty sure even janitors want to pay as litle as possible for theire food, rent or other activities. That infact is capitalism. The janitor wants to get as much as possible without squandering too much of the available resources.
If you think capitalism is throwing ppl out on the street. Take a look at all other forms of running societies, and you quickly notice same thing occur.
Warzoooooo 1 year ago
@buddhagem What is my point with that. Well, its not acctually capitalism that is the failing link, its acctually humans. These ppl that have been thrown out on the street, you probably blame some business men doing theire job. But why dont you also blame theire neightbours that could have chiped in with som money to help them.
If there are no consequences to bad actions, why would ppl pay theire bills or work? If work is what ppl want, why did slaves revolt? They had work all theire life.
Warzoooooo 1 year ago
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@blue222blue A pareto efficiency does not exist in any monetary system, therefore it cannot work for all......DONE!
There is evidence that intellect=co-cooperation. Technology is what will free us from labour, not more labour!
loppist 1 year ago
@blue222blue Look dont insult the man on his own video but if you need an intelligent adversary im your man
Chris9ian 1 year ago
@Chris9ian
He went ad hominem on me, not the other way around.
blue222blue 1 year ago
@blue222blue
A year later, I'm sorry if he took my janitor and Monopoly man comment personally. It wasn't meant that way. It was meant as a colorful illustration of a point, i.e., that wealth is more democratically distributed in capitalist countries than in socialist countries.
For this I was called stupid, ignorant, etc. etc . I've got nothing against the guy. I admire carpenters and Buddhists. We might have a lot in common. I just think he's wrong.
blue222blue 1 year ago
@blue222blue ok like i said if you need to debate im it
Chris9ian 1 year ago
@blue222blue actaully the top 1% have the most wealth and shares
dancthegr 1 year ago
@dancthegr
The wealthiest 1% owns about 1/3 of all assets. But the largest fraction of stockholders is retirement savers, who own shares in the form of mutual funds, govt pension funds, and the like.
About 60% of US families are owners of corporations, i.e, stockholders.
Keep in mind, too, that the wealth percentiles are not static. Most people in the bottom 20% rise out of it, many of them to the top 20%.
Capitalism is not perfect, but socialism doesn't come close in fairness.
blue222blue 1 year ago
@dancthegr
State control of capital sounds fair, but in reality it always becomes a political spoils system. The "dictatorship of the proletariat" somehow never goes away.
blue222blue 1 year ago
What do tent cities have to do with Free Market Capitalism? You list high housing costs, unemployment, and economic downturns as the cause, all of which are deeply rooted in government intervention. You demonstrate you ignorance even further by saying that we have a surplus of houses right after that, if we had a free market the price of these would come down to where people could afford them, instead it is propped up by the government. This is Facism not Capitalism retard, learn economics.
priapus512 2 years ago
Learn the difference between Corporatism (fascism) and Capitalism. We have the former. Going against Capitalism is revolting against Nature.
2012Ronpaul2012 2 years ago
OK so if you don't like Capitalism, what would you like? Socialism perhaps? What? Please tell me...Numbers of homeless are one thing, what about numbers of those homeless who took out loans that they couldn't afford? What are the numbers on Illegal Aliens? What about those not looking for work? What about those unhireable who are using drugs acquired from the open borders?
americansensei 2 years ago
The answer is not one answer to problems. You make a system that works for all not for some. The reason why people are fleeing their countries and come to US indocumented is because we have exploited their resources, culture, traditions, systems that rot from within. They are just trying to survive. What would you do if you lived in a city where murders, theft, hunger, stench, corruption was an every day thing and you just wanted to escape that shit that was the effect of certain powers?
neolestat13 2 years ago
I would like to know what exactly is the problem with the illegal aliens and why exactly do you refer to the borders as being "open" because I live in a border town, I have crossed the border twice a month my entire lifetime and as far as I know the points of entry are heavily guarded even with dogs that sniff your under, how many times have you crossed back and forth to Mexico?? I have the feeling that you don't really know what you're talking about and that you have never crossed the border.
tetraedronico 2 years ago
What Bush is he refering to? I don't know any capitalists by the name of Bush.
fps0chris 2 years ago 3
You are correct. Bush was a fascist. So was his dad.
chunga777 2 years ago 3
Fascism is the capitalist response to strong social movements that risk destroing capitalism.
MarxistStudant 2 years ago
Capitalism is great. Tom Morello is great too. Now that's crazy.
Robinsonero 2 years ago
If you think homelessness is a result of capitalism, you're a moron.
beelz3333 2 years ago
buddhagem is clueless for sure. He demands the government put his pants on for him then whines and whines when they kick his leftist friends out of their beloved tent city, lol.
bbpro 2 years ago
how the hell is homelessness NOT a result of capitalism!
NubianTribesman 2 years ago
Tell me how you think it is responsible.
beelz3333 2 years ago
What is the song at the end of the video?
jrc2412 2 years ago
How about the government give those people money instead of spending it on stimulus packages which are only allowing inflation too go up.
drew335533 2 years ago 6
The City of Ontarion, California? The same Ontario ran by socialist liberals?
STFU.
WarofThoughts 2 years ago 4
As for personal responsibility:
The vast majority of wealthy people, and the majority of those who will be wealthy, are that way as a result of inheritance, "luck of the draw (born in exploiter nations versus exploited) or a job that does not provide material benefit to the community.
There's nothing wrong with helping others, and in fact it is helping others that gives everyone an opportunity to be "the best they can be", cliché as that sounds.
NaturalSelection2 2 years ago
$2 a day is also still quite abysmal anyway. Many, many people live on a dollar a day, and most of the world is capitalist. Enough said.
I have no interest in trading remarks on YouTube comments any more though. No offense, I just find other sites more productive for discussion, at least until I've got a camera. I just thought I'd respond since you seemed like one of the more respectful commenters here.
NaturalSelection2 2 years ago
Thanks NaturalSelection. I try not to offend, but there are comments I feel should be addressed, such as your belief that most of the world lives in a capitalist economy, which is far from the economic reality. Since we both have a common goal of making public comments that ultimately are of use to society's struggling, its important to engage in discussions where these vids are originally presented.. If you do not want to partake, thats okay. I look forward to your future vids. Cheers, Rob.
rbairos1 2 years ago
My family escaped a socialist political society in order to start again as debt-ridden, uneducated, non-english speaking citizens in the west one generation ago. Demonstrably having less resources than the homeless you speak of this video. (debt, no education, no english language skills) we all succeeded. Its not public handouts they were looking for it was opportunity, in their case low wage menial jobs. Capitalism is a godsend.
rbairos1 2 years ago
Good for you. Unfortunately your experience is not the norm and it's why we look at statistics and not anecdotal evidence in order to evaluate things. I know it's easy to think that if you did it, everyone can do it; but I'd suggest you look into this more deeply.
buddhagem 2 years ago
It wasnt just my family it was thousands in the 1970s who *still* 40 years later are well established productive members of western culture. There were homeless citizens in those days too, and those perenially stuck on welfare. But they were 3rd, 4th, 5th generation . I do look at this more deeply, and the only practical difference I can pinpoint is the mentality of those involved and their social circles.
I suggest you look at the facts more openly.
rbairos1 2 years ago
I don't know why you're bothering me, because I had decided not to bother commenting here since someone made a stupid comment about how I should be allowing a homeless person to live in "my home" (I will of course do what I can to help others, despite the attacks on me, but that disregards the problem that the wealthiest few have the most power to help).
As buddhagem said, it's not about anecdotes. it's also not about improvements from development that do not require capitalism.
NaturalSelection2 2 years ago
look, first of all, we must keep capitalism. we just have to get governments to STOP inflation, and start helping the poor get their act together so they can live a life again. second, we must know more morals and values, such as its good to donate to charity and stuff. we just basically have to organize things better. and i think we should enlarge democracy, like give citizens more power over wat the government is deciding to do and stuff.
Danotto9797 2 years ago
the rich get richer and the poor get poorer
capitalism sucks
AlpinKirkonen 2 years ago
Is it more important to you, that you and your family increase your standard of living, or that your neighbours do not increase theirs faster?
rbairos1 2 years ago
I don't get what you mean. I don't feel my standard of living needs increasing, and if my neighbours feel like increasing theirs by all means.
AlpinKirkonen 2 years ago
Hi Alpin. The reason I ask is because it is often the case that all levels of society do in fact increase in wealth overall, but people grow resentful when one portion grows richer faster than another. Some people rank 'income equality' over 'income'. ie, they believe its better to shrink gaps among rich and poor (even if it means lowered standards for all) then it is to increase levels for both disproportionately, For example, France sets the 'poverty' line to anyone below the 50% average.
rbairos1 2 years ago
Well I definitely think when the poor people are living in conditions where survival is hard that the gap should be shrunk to increase their living standards.
It does not bother me if someone else is richer than me, but if I was living in squalor while they buy their fourth car I'd certainly get resentful.
What do you think?
AlpinKirkonen 2 years ago
Hi Alpin. I think the important thing is not how many more cars one has, but what opportunities exist for pulling yourself out of squalor. If that person bought that car through immoral means, than I agree with you. If they bought that car legally, then more power to them. Giving away the cash that buys an extra car only generates temporary solution, but buying a car involves the employment of thousands of people ultimately and re-invests that money into a working economy.
rbairos1 2 years ago
The problem is when someone's born into squalor it's really quite difficult to pull yourself out.
And with the cars, my problem is that people just buy so much useless crap that they don't need, while others are dying from starvation constantly. The money for that car could be put towards better things.
I just thoroughly dislike consumerism.
AlpinKirkonen 2 years ago
If you dislike squalor, promote economic opportunity. The number of people living on less than $2 a day has halved since the 1980s as globalization spreads, in areas specifically open to increased trade. In the early 80's vietnam went from a wheat importer to a wheat exporter. Look at the rise of standard of living of the lower class in Russia, China, India as their economies move away from centrally planned to free market reform. Is it actual results or 'good intentions' you care about?
rbairos1 2 years ago
Who are you to judge what ones needs or doesnt?
fps0chris 2 years ago
meh, im just someone with an opinion lolz.
AlpinKirkonen 2 years ago
I too was homeless. But never thought that I was owed a damn thing .I raised myself by my boot straps.
I understand that some are helpless,but many just want to be taken care of by someone else (GOV).
Springdalefarms 2 years ago
Most are helpless, particularly in countries where multinational corporations run the show. In the West, we see a more mild side of capitalism because we benefit so much from cheap labour in the poorer capitalist countries. Still, even in the West, there is injustice in the sense that some must manage to pull themselves out of poverty while an elite few have an easy life full of riches despite not providing anything useful to their community.
NaturalSelection2 2 years ago
we just need to teach our future children morals and values.
Danotto9797 2 years ago
If people are homeless it is because they live in a society that espouses the philosophy of enforced public welfare over personal private responsibility. Caring about something that is the governments official role is just redundant so we dont. And where are these countries suffering from the West? Is it S.E asia where the number of people living on less than $2 a day (even adjusted for inflation) has halved since the 1980's, the highest increases where trade barriers were removed? Tell me.
rbairos1 2 years ago
to borrow from Lew Rockwell: we owe all our material possession to centuries of capital accumulation at the hands of free people who have put capital to work, at once competing with others for profit and cooperating with millions upon millions of people in an ever-expanding global network of the division of labor. The savings, investments, risks, and work of hundreds of years and uncountable numbers of free people have gone into making this possible.
BigGerny 2 years ago
Capitalism is right, let the poor be poor its just sad for them. :(
iDenmark 2 years ago
If you care about these people, invite some of them to live in your home. Be a good communist. Don't force others to accomodate them.
"houses, fields, and factories will no longer be private property, and that they will belong to the commune or the nation and money, wages, and trade would be abolished." -Kropotkin
Individualistico 2 years ago
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ConsentWithdrawn 2 years ago
If you're going to continue in this infantile dialogue, speaking about things you don't understand, I'm not going to respond. I suppose you think it makes sense to bulldoze down perfectly good homes, brand new homes (as is now being done across the country) while we have millions of people who have no home. Why don't you be a good invidualist and make it on your own. Stop using technology, roads, and services created and provided by others. You're nothing but a parasite.
buddhagem 2 years ago
Speaking of parasites, what exactly do you call the millions on welfare riding the backs of the true workers in society. You miss the point of capitalism, TO MAKE MONEY! The inventor innovates and SELLS what he invents. The BUYER then uses the invention. Both parties win. The homeless don't have a right to a house they don't own. Not when others have to work to pay for theirs. I have no sympathy for these people.
signed
A Heartless Capitalist Pig Libertarian
cubslover22 2 years ago
Except that's not plausible for many, now unemployed, workers. You know who does have the space? The wealthy elite who inherited their fortunes or got crucial investment capital from people they were lucky enough to know because of who their family is/where they were born.
No, what we want is, as buddhagem has made clear, a society where houses are made for living in, not for personal profit. Advocating THAT is being a good Communist.
NaturalSelection2 2 years ago
Then let people move in your house with you! Get started with your communist agenda before forcing it on others. If it works out well for you, I'm sure others will want to join you.
bbpro 2 years ago
Clearly you either can't read or just ignored what I posted in response to that nonsense before.
NaturalSelection2 2 years ago
I'm sure you have the room to invite at least one derelict into your house, so please do so if you wish to be a good communist rather than a self-righteous hypocrite that you so clearly are.
bbpro 2 years ago
Exactly! Instead communists prefer to be self-righteous hypocrites while forcing everyone except for themselves to adopt communist policies.
bbpro 2 years ago
I ask you this- what alternative system of government do you suppose? In theory, communism is all about improving the common wealth, but in what case in history has this system of government proved effective and not turned out to be based on greed? The simple fact is this- the world runs on individuals pursuing their seperate interests- no economic system in history has proved more likely to improve the conditions of the average citizen than the enormous productivity unleashed by a freemarket.
hoodooman9 2 years ago
dont cuss dude
im showing this to children
kolosthedragon 2 years ago
Socialism would have been feasible back when Marx devised the theory. But with the technology we have today and the existence of a middle class, makes the Marxist economic theory outdated. Eternal boss/worker conflict will remain, however.
Syoles 2 years ago
I agree and don't like this "I'm a victim" propaganda.
I am conflicted though...when it comes to true victims. (Eg. some guy has stroke and can barely function on their own...a woman/man and her kids are abused by a spouse who is the family breadwinner..)
Do we help these people? And how can a system be set up to distinguish between true victims versus the fake ones in the video?
shonester 2 years ago
"These people are being thrown out of their homes..now they're being thrown out of a tent city"?
Really? Everyone's just a victim. Evily thrown out of their homes - that they did not pay for...Evily thrown off land that is not theirs
Not an issue of capitalism - issue of no accountability
shonester 2 years ago
thanks for the video. i am a marxist communist.
NotTooObvious 2 years ago
Capitalism Kicks ass
IM ANTI SOCIAList
Boardslydr 2 years ago
go fuck yourself then
agvares 2 years ago