@terraLiquidus are you a felon? been convicted of domestic abuse? over 18? not been dishonorabley discharged from military service? renounced your citizenship? etc etc.....? then yeah they're legal to own. unless you live in queerifornia, Washington dc, New York, Massachusetts, New Jersey, or any other state that's ignorant enough to think that making weapons unavailable to common citizens while not giving a damn about the morons who can't legally own firearms but amazingly still have them.
ok. aside from the horribly annoying way he over pronounced ambidextrous, not a bad review. just got mine the other day. once I get back home to the woods I'm familiar with, we'll see if the performance matches the good looks.
Has anyone tried firing mini 12s in this thing? I can't even find anyone thats seen this shotgun in real life. I'm starting to think it doesn't really exist...and that makes me sad.
@meyerjac Wouldn't matter anyway as of right now the only way to get one is to pay 2-3 times more than what they retail for on GunBroker. I'm about to buy a 870 because this not available. Kel Tec is losing a lot of money not keeping up with the demand for this shotgun.
@meyerjac Don't worry man, this thing is impossible to find, its sold out everywhere. And you could buy one off of GunsAmerica or GunBroker, but it will cost $1500. Its like the PS3/Xbox/Wii (when they first came out) of guns.
not a fan of this gun at all it just serves no purpose you can get a mossberg maverick or 500 if you wanna spend the extra money for the same gun for a 1\4 of the price of this one the only cool thing about it is the fact it holds 15 rounds but its still a damn pump if you want that kinda ammo payload you will come out better getting a Saiga shotgun and its a semi automatic -___- kel-tec makes shitty guns in my opinion
@gemenidroid Thanks for the words of common sense. Loading that thing has got to be a hassle. Yes its great loaded. but other than that I will stick to my 1300 and Zoli over under. I can outshoot other trypes of shotguns with my over and under. Loading two rounds at a time becomes faster than loading 5 a time. I can do it while clays are set up.
WOW I want one with an extended barrel and TWO full length XRails for a total capacity of a gazillion rounds (40 or 50 im guessing)... Oh dear, dear, DEAR Santa Claus! That would look so bad ass and still be under 35" overall... yup I want one.
So on the safety, since the F is visible when the safety is extended on the RIGHT side, that means fire, so that is the opposite of every other crossbolt safety firearm ever built - not good.
@CrocoDuck420 It was only released just before xmas 2011 a little over a month ago and someone on the keltec forum said they have back orders of 85 000 So i think it at least has a good start
dunno about my state but many state have a law that only allows three shells in the shotgun at a time (my grandpa is retired mounted patol and he told me...although neither of us understand why it is that way). any idea on how laws will affect this gun...or will it be required to have a class III licence to own?
@RyderDarkheart Regarding the 3 round limit... In most if not all states the 3 round limit is only if you are hunting with the shotgun. If you are hunting with it you will actually have to put some sort of dowel or rod in the magazine tube so no more than 3 rounds can even be loaded. The KSG is even legal in California where I live & if it's legal here, it's legal about anywhere in the USA (i.e. - just about nothing is legal in California)
The real question about this shotgun is will you ever receive it once you order one?
Kel tec is so far behind on production they need to let people come down to help them build their orders. Might be kinda fun to build a dozen guns or so at the factory.
Love Kel Tec, just wish they could step up production.
i have been researching this gun, but there has no def estimate on release date. I was at one point told it was gonna be in Jan, do y'all have any clue on the release date?
250 of these units have been released right before Christmas :) check out auctions online good luck finding one at MSRP though! ranging from 13-1,500 in counting ive even heard of gun dealers at gunshows trying to get 2,000 for one
You know whats sad, I doubt hardly anyone knew much about this till MW3 came out. This has been on my wish list for nearly 2 years. Price tag is bound to rise with demand from video game gun geeks.
i remember reading about a very similar design from the late 80's / early 90's called the " winter gun ". they had a lot of problems with the twin magazine tube feed system though, and eventually they gave up. is this derived from that design?
@BikerTrashWolf Most guns with that type of safety have 'traditional' stocks as opposed to the pistol grip on this one. I'm guessing that it's meant to be flicked off by the thumb of a right-handed firer, or trigger finger of a lefty. I do agree that it seems backwards, though I see the logic behind it as well. This will give fits to 870 shooters such as myself. =P
@DumbDuck44 A pump shotgun will feed just about anything that you can fit into it, within a given gauge and chamber length, maybe with the exception of those mini-shells in some cases. Semi-auto shotguns are a lot pickier about what they'll shoot and feed, for example high-brass or low-brass, without having to change something such as a gas valve, recoil spring, etc. Some newer semi-auto designs are less fickle, but they're the exception rather than the rule. Basically, simpler = better.
@DumbDuck44 You avoid gun ban issues that come with auto loaders. Also with different sizes of shells & Types of non leathals; you run into to cycle issues.
I've been waiting for this gun for quite a bit now. It is on my list to finish out my arsenal. Others are a 10mm auto carbine (yet to be released), a .327 Fed mag lever action (yet to be released), and an M53. Maybe an M95 or M82A1, if I ever get that sort of crazy money.
@Strom63 Not yet but soon, very soon. We are putting together some interesting (we think) scinarios to test this unique weapon. We will post the video when we are done.
Excellent design. But how well would it actually perform in combat? I mean say the effective/optimal range?
JLXZ83 7 hours ago
does it shot 3 1/2 in black clouds???? remington 870 express super magnum all day
dace381 2 days ago
00 buck in the right tube, slugs on the left. Awww yeahhh.
FearTheGremlin 3 days ago
They need lexan covers for those shotgun shell indicator holes
SavageInsight 4 days ago
This would be really popular in an airsoft version, especially if it was compatible with current gas shotgun shells such as madbull or tanaka
SavageInsight 4 days ago
tripod
bretta0z 1 week ago
@terraLiquidus are you a felon? been convicted of domestic abuse? over 18? not been dishonorabley discharged from military service? renounced your citizenship? etc etc.....? then yeah they're legal to own. unless you live in queerifornia, Washington dc, New York, Massachusetts, New Jersey, or any other state that's ignorant enough to think that making weapons unavailable to common citizens while not giving a damn about the morons who can't legally own firearms but amazingly still have them.
johnnyp19812005 2 weeks ago
It's legal in California...
jigsaw417 1 day ago
ok. aside from the horribly annoying way he over pronounced ambidextrous, not a bad review. just got mine the other day. once I get back home to the woods I'm familiar with, we'll see if the performance matches the good looks.
johnnyp19812005 2 weeks ago
Looks wicked. Are they legal to own?
terraLiquidus 2 weeks ago
Super sexy
sheemsheem 2 weeks ago
Has anyone tried firing mini 12s in this thing? I can't even find anyone thats seen this shotgun in real life. I'm starting to think it doesn't really exist...and that makes me sad.
sgtrock68 2 weeks ago
HALO SHOTGUN :D
bentheweirdo 3 weeks ago
So... much... plastic...
ChrisRiley93 3 weeks ago
@ChrisRiley93 Yes, I think too, but i suposse that now the "cool" is the boss
Steelvg10 3 weeks ago
I'm gone get one
LoCo8NiKkA 4 weeks ago
Right after I buy a Remington 870 I have to find out about this sweet lady... It's like meeting your dream girl right after you get married.
meyerjac 1 month ago 27
@meyerjac ME TOO. I just bought the 870 Super Magnum. 3.5 in chamber 26". Which one did you get? I want a KSG sooo bad
kbent88 3 weeks ago
@kbent88 I got the Express but I switched out the stock barrel for an 18". There are videos of me shooting it on my profile. =)
meyerjac 3 weeks ago
@meyerjac In the firearms world, polygamy is A-OK! My firearms don't mind me cheating on them.
DoubleTapLasVegas 3 weeks ago
@meyerjac That's why I got a mail order bride, built just the way I want it. Mmmm...Russians.
Awuani 2 weeks ago 2
@meyerjac Wouldn't matter anyway as of right now the only way to get one is to pay 2-3 times more than what they retail for on GunBroker. I'm about to buy a 870 because this not available. Kel Tec is losing a lot of money not keeping up with the demand for this shotgun.
AKSKSMAN 1 week ago
@AKSKSMAN have you considered semi auto?
Saigax12 1 week ago
@meyerjac Don't worry man, this thing is impossible to find, its sold out everywhere. And you could buy one off of GunsAmerica or GunBroker, but it will cost $1500. Its like the PS3/Xbox/Wii (when they first came out) of guns.
GODDAMNSASQUATCH 2 days ago
not a fan of this gun at all it just serves no purpose you can get a mossberg maverick or 500 if you wanna spend the extra money for the same gun for a 1\4 of the price of this one the only cool thing about it is the fact it holds 15 rounds but its still a damn pump if you want that kinda ammo payload you will come out better getting a Saiga shotgun and its a semi automatic -___- kel-tec makes shitty guns in my opinion
gemenidroid 1 month ago
@gemenidroid Haters gonna Hate.
jonhomemade 1 month ago 6
@gemenidroid Thanks for the words of common sense. Loading that thing has got to be a hassle. Yes its great loaded. but other than that I will stick to my 1300 and Zoli over under. I can outshoot other trypes of shotguns with my over and under. Loading two rounds at a time becomes faster than loading 5 a time. I can do it while clays are set up.
DobermansRock 3 weeks ago
One Mag with Buckshot, and the other one with Frag rounds . Let the game begin!
PayWithGore 1 month ago
WOW I want one with an extended barrel and TWO full length XRails for a total capacity of a gazillion rounds (40 or 50 im guessing)... Oh dear, dear, DEAR Santa Claus! That would look so bad ass and still be under 35" overall... yup I want one.
booyalakasha1 1 month ago
thumbs up for mw3 ksg 12
kgjurashaj77 1 month ago
@kgjurashaj77 mw3 sucks bf3 is WAY better
TheBic4 1 day ago
After buying a Saiga 12, anything besides an AA12 is laughable.
Robertjcksn40 1 month ago
the plastic stock look so damn cheap !, just like the interiors of American cars !
HistoryHmoobGuy 1 month ago
Innovative dual magazine design? You mean like the Neostead? Oh, i guess that wouldnt make it innovative then would it...
obeyance 1 month ago
i want this sooooo bad!
kbent88 1 month ago
dear santa
benkerr69 1 month ago
Also, does it fire 3" shells? Also, did they address the design flaw of it freezing up if you cycle without trigger fully forward?
DrTadHusseinWinslow 1 month ago
@DrTadHusseinWinslow Yes, check out kel tec's review, they state they have fixed it.
Nationofhonor 1 month ago
@DrTadHusseinWinslow KelTec made a video a little over a month after SHOTshow where someone pointed that out to them, saying it was fixed
macuss87 1 month ago
So on the safety, since the F is visible when the safety is extended on the RIGHT side, that means fire, so that is the opposite of every other crossbolt safety firearm ever built - not good.
DrTadHusseinWinslow 1 month ago
Did this shotgun ever take off?
CrocoDuck420 1 month ago
@CrocoDuck420 ON sale Since Xmas.
WALTERBROADDUS 1 month ago in playlist More videos from 2brothersadventures
@CrocoDuck420 It was only released just before xmas 2011 a little over a month ago and someone on the keltec forum said they have back orders of 85 000 So i think it at least has a good start
macuss87 1 month ago
i love it
bobo441978 1 month ago
This gun looks sweet!
LookingGlassProject 1 month ago
Neosted did the dual mag first.
metaleater9 1 month ago
dunno about my state but many state have a law that only allows three shells in the shotgun at a time (my grandpa is retired mounted patol and he told me...although neither of us understand why it is that way). any idea on how laws will affect this gun...or will it be required to have a class III licence to own?
RyderDarkheart 1 month ago
@RyderDarkheart Regarding the 3 round limit... In most if not all states the 3 round limit is only if you are hunting with the shotgun. If you are hunting with it you will actually have to put some sort of dowel or rod in the magazine tube so no more than 3 rounds can even be loaded. The KSG is even legal in California where I live & if it's legal here, it's legal about anywhere in the USA (i.e. - just about nothing is legal in California)
justdickie 1 month ago
@justdickie just for hunting...i did not know that, thanks ^_^
RyderDarkheart 1 month ago
@RyderDarkheart That is a hunting limit. Nobody is duck hunting with this gun.
WALTERBROADDUS 1 month ago
@WALTERBROADDUS you never know...there are some realy stupid people out there... >.<
RyderDarkheart 1 month ago
@RyderDarkheart yes that is true someone might for get what tube is m=empty thats the one thing i was thinking about too my self about stupid people
agent5250 1 month ago
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Was told durning production it will be CA legal. Now I see websites saying they will not sale to CA is this true?
STEFAN23744 1 month ago
The real question about this shotgun is will you ever receive it once you order one?
Kel tec is so far behind on production they need to let people come down to help them build their orders. Might be kinda fun to build a dozen guns or so at the factory.
Love Kel Tec, just wish they could step up production.
politicalsheepdog 1 month ago
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jayskeeos 1 month ago
The question now is there a tube extension? lol.
runhorun 1 month ago
I can't wait for this gun to come out! It will totally dominate the Shotgun Market!
Nationofhonor 1 month ago
It looks like the halo reach shotgun and thats just great
joseph011296 1 month ago
@joseph011296 yes! i just noticed that tooooooooooo!
ohmygoditsyomamma 1 month ago
@ohmygoditsyomamma looks at its create a class icon in mw3 that looks even more like it
joseph011296 1 month ago
hi i'd like to see the working of the action through the ejection port....
MADAN6140 1 month ago
ill stick with my saiga 12
nissanis1 2 months ago
I remember another double magazine shotgun just like this one was made by another company, I can't remember the name.
SantoryuWazamono 2 months ago
@SantoryuWazamono well there's only two other double tube-magazine shotguns that i know of, the Neostead and the UTAS-15
Umimugo 1 month ago
@Umimugo yes the UTAS, thats what I was thinking of thanks
SantoryuWazamono 1 month ago
I bet thats a pain in the ass to field strip
gmaster45612374 2 months ago
When will these be on the Market?
JaySky181 2 months ago
@JaySky181 On sale now.
WALTERBROADDUS 1 month ago
Kel-Tec makes some of the most innovative modern firearms.
IggyHazard 2 months ago
Can't find a sub2000 in Glock 9 or .40. Can't find a PMR30. Can't find an SU16Charlie anywhere. Can't get a KSG.
piss on kel-tec
bdockett 2 months ago
i have been researching this gun, but there has no def estimate on release date. I was at one point told it was gonna be in Jan, do y'all have any clue on the release date?
juhsitfy153 2 months ago
@juhsitfy153
250 of these units have been released right before Christmas :) check out auctions online good luck finding one at MSRP though! ranging from 13-1,500 in counting ive even heard of gun dealers at gunshows trying to get 2,000 for one
GunRunna47 1 month ago
@juhsitfy153 On sale since Xmas.
WALTERBROADDUS 1 month ago
uts-15 is better
mrhopeful73 2 months ago
Nice review guys. Great details of getting the camera "in close and in focus" while showing us the weapon.
paraglidingnut 2 months ago
when do they come out i want one now!
DODD5000 2 months ago
@DODD5000 on sale now.
WALTERBROADDUS 1 month ago
Excellent video, except for one small point-- AmbidexTROUS, not AmbidexTRIOUS. It's kind of painful for the english major/grammar nazi in all of us.
PKHeritage 2 months ago
Do you need a speacial permit for these or is just like any other shotgun where you can just own it?
greenmonkeyfunk 2 months ago
@greenmonkeyfunk Nothing special needed. just like any other defense shotgun.
WALTERBROADDUS 1 month ago
holes seem like a design flaw, prone to get dirt clogging up the tubes.
relaxfoo 2 months ago
@relaxfoo Do you plan on fighting Germans in the Somme trenches? Doubt it will be a issue.
WALTERBROADDUS 1 month ago
I remember seeing this on keltecs website and I actually just noticed it was on mw3 last night lol
MrBobert121 3 months ago
@MrBobert121 I hope it's better than the one in MW3. It sucks
scrubcity2 3 months ago
You know whats sad, I doubt hardly anyone knew much about this till MW3 came out. This has been on my wish list for nearly 2 years. Price tag is bound to rise with demand from video game gun geeks.
Goodspittin 3 months ago
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Goodspittin 3 months ago
this video was very well done thanks
heretic1915 3 months ago
2:30...Smart!
SimBe0web 3 months ago
i remember reading about a very similar design from the late 80's / early 90's called the " winter gun ". they had a lot of problems with the twin magazine tube feed system though, and eventually they gave up. is this derived from that design?
sssbob 3 months ago
Is an automatic version in the works, or pre-design stages, if at all?
DngerousRadical 3 months ago
I'm sick with envy !!!!
RECONDO101st 3 months ago
their safety seems backwards from every gun I can ever remember shooting. usually slid to th right is safe and to the left is fire.
BikerTrashWolf 3 months ago
@BikerTrashWolf Most guns with that type of safety have 'traditional' stocks as opposed to the pistol grip on this one. I'm guessing that it's meant to be flicked off by the thumb of a right-handed firer, or trigger finger of a lefty. I do agree that it seems backwards, though I see the logic behind it as well. This will give fits to 870 shooters such as myself. =P
cbc82 3 months ago
CoD: MW3 is coming out soon. This video is going to get a million views because of it
Paulmarti 4 months ago
Inherent flaw; the last 4-6 spaces on the charger are useless for any accessories due to how far back it moves!
darkminstrel 4 months ago
...jeeze, Armageddon is gonna be one helluva miserable time to live through...
SittingMooseShaman 4 months ago
am-buh-dek-struss
Lvl22nerd 4 months ago
Have you ran 2" 00 through this yet?
83PoWeRrAm 4 months ago
it looks like the neostead-2000
Hteam1422 4 months ago
$800 good price cool futureistic shot gun , can't wait for you to tell me about felt recoil.
huskyoverlord 4 months ago
Do you see a problem with those cut outs in the magazine tubes with debris getting in there?
jwsmith575 5 months ago
was there a tactical or design reason for the choice of pump over semi-auto?
DumbDuck44 5 months ago
@DumbDuck44 A pump shotgun will feed just about anything that you can fit into it, within a given gauge and chamber length, maybe with the exception of those mini-shells in some cases. Semi-auto shotguns are a lot pickier about what they'll shoot and feed, for example high-brass or low-brass, without having to change something such as a gas valve, recoil spring, etc. Some newer semi-auto designs are less fickle, but they're the exception rather than the rule. Basically, simpler = better.
cbc82 3 months ago
@DumbDuck44 You avoid gun ban issues that come with auto loaders. Also with different sizes of shells & Types of non leathals; you run into to cycle issues.
WALTERBROADDUS 1 month ago
Dude, That wasn't a bad vid at all. nice job
Nexgcs 5 months ago
see if it feeds aguila mini shells for me when you run it (if you still have it). that would put me on the pre-order list for sure
kestral0202 5 months ago
What a nice review with excellent lighting and camera work, just the right length, too. You are very good at this.
theKGB65 6 months ago
I've been waiting for this gun for quite a bit now. It is on my list to finish out my arsenal. Others are a 10mm auto carbine (yet to be released), a .327 Fed mag lever action (yet to be released), and an M53. Maybe an M95 or M82A1, if I ever get that sort of crazy money.
Santo3x7 6 months ago
is this ur personal gun?? i didnt know they were on the market yet?
BDBakaJR 7 months ago
@BDBakaJR They are not on the market yet. This is a test and evaluation gun.
2brothersadventures 7 months ago 6
release date?
oodamnagain 7 months ago
Seems to be a well thought out design.
JasonVladimir 7 months ago
very nice review! Have you had a chance to fire it yet?
Strom63 7 months ago
@Strom63 Not yet but soon, very soon. We are putting together some interesting (we think) scinarios to test this unique weapon. We will post the video when we are done.
2brothersadventures 7 months ago
very impressive shot gun!!
2LateIWon 7 months ago
Sweet!!
Richard5sf 7 months ago
I really like this shotgun but the price will make it one that I will never own. Great video.
DownRange1776 7 months ago
Great video!
edgybob1 7 months ago
Looks sweet how much is that doggie ?
splinterman9 7 months ago
@splinterman9 MSRP reported to be $800 once they are released.
2brothersadventures 7 months ago 3
I've been "Jones'in" for this shotgun ever since I saw your video at Shot!
MrBillTroop73 7 months ago