@TheMathgeek37 Who ever decides that we were created? There is something to that connotation within the fear of existence itself' why why should anyone fear existence? Is it the vanity in an attachment to image and knowledge questioning ones own existence? People often presume to know what they they think or believe rather than what they can comprehend' If you you cant see it you we cant know it and its simply a form of belief'
Temple of Solomon was built by craftsman, the Sons of Hiram of Lebanon, They knew the value of Pi,The design information in 1Kings 7:23 presumes you know your craft, the way to create the bowl, described here with multiple measurements, one diameter given for the outer reach of the Lily Rim ,and then inside this overflowing rim, is the smaller sized bowl, a sea having a circumference of 30 cubits. Of course the Lily is a bigger circle and measures ten cubits diameter, Trade Secrets of Craft
1Kings 7:23 describes a bowl with a perimeter of 30 cubits , but it has a design feature that makes the bowl look like an Ash Tray , having a broad rim in the shape of Lilies. So, Rim to Rim is not the bowl but the Lily extending out from the bowl and so it is Ten Cubits Diameter, and then the bowl is inside the Lily design , smaller in Circumference. There is not a problem here, any builder can use these numbers and make the object described. One must bring the Secret Craft to the Job.
The bowl in Kings with the Lily design would look like an ash tray, a bowl with a broad rim. So to be given the outer diameter to the lily rim's edge, and then the perimeter of the inner bowl section, you have a perfect description that anyone knowing Pi can take the given information and complete the design as a three dimensional object. The only other thing to know is the thickness of the bowl and the thickness of the Lily design rim. Edge to Edge for the Lily, is more than the inner bowl
Not of this world meaning separate from the creation. Also in worldliness/ pop culture and man made ways/ traditions.
Most people now think the way they do about "aliens" and the universe because of the influence of Hollywood, pop culture and mass media. You are a product of "the world" and the beliefs you think are your own are actually results of everything you watch on TV, hear in music etc.
People think they have individuality when in reality they are amalgamations of pop culture.
@ dirtydanzig: A mathematician: Ivan Panin tried to do just that. Write a story with these kinds of rules, and make it a readable story that actually tells something. He and few other mathematicians couldn't do it.
But Gen 1:1 does not only hold these structures of 7 but (as you saw) also PI. You can also find the name of the book and the author by skipping multiples of 7 in the beginning of each book of the Torah. (One is also Gen 1:1)
Could someone 3000s y ago do that without computers?
What you have shown here is a relationship between words and numbers which is prefaced/presupposed by the letters being given a numerical value. (circular reasoning)
Furthermore, this "discovery" reveals nothing about the nature of creation. It merely transposes the question of creation to a different context. Lastly, how does one account for the rounding up? did God just say "ok i guess thats close enough give or take 65 decimal places." ?
The accusation of circular reasoning is based on ignorance.The letters served a dual purpose as the ONLY numbers in those languages - they are not merely assigned for this example.
It reveals something about the nature of the Biblical text. The 2 most compelling verses form Old and New Testament - 1000s of years apart - using the exact same equation derive the 2 most important mathematical constants for design and engineering is very compelling.
Its great that all things be examined. Thank you for this stimulating topic!
But there are two Thetas (at the beginning of Theos) in Jn1:1 - the 9th letter of the greek Alphabet, missing from your numerology 04:19 If you can't count the first letter of the word 'God', what use is any other counting?
Sorry to bring a downer to the party but I'd appreciate your reasoning on that.
Its not surprising if you are an engineer or know how math is used.Considering the fact that we are talking about the creation of the universe its hardly surprising that they are scaled up to astronomical proportions.
Also, You use sigma* for 6 the 18th letter of the Greek Alphabet. I understood they used the Phoenician Digamma or Stigma for 6? In any case, this displaces the numerical values of all the letters after Epsilon - so Zeta is 7, not 6 as it 'should' have been? Also it means no Greek word-letters will express the number 6. Yet the universe has lots of 6's, and what use is 60 or 600 if you can't do just 6?
Also, disregarding that it may be coincidence and that these two numbers are accurate to 4 decimal places, what's to stop me from saying that the bible had extraterrestrial influence?
There, I proved that it was extraterrestrials who did this.
Why would we assume that the intelligence would be so intelligent and yet lie about its self? The Bible says God, not aliens. Also, if we look at the text, which never faults or lies, why would we then make the leap to say that intelligence of the bible lies? Also, you would have to asign Godlike powers to the E.t's to say they did it or Polytheism, but what created all those gods, where's the prime mover? Why can you not say that it's God?
The word God is a mistranslation in the Bible. Study Hebrew language. You will find that the word God is in actuality plural. You will find the same Hebrew word in other verses which translates to gods. Also, the creation story is a copy from older sources such as Enuma Elish. Do some research.
There are many evidence in the Bible that points to extraterrestrial influence. I can go in depth but I am limited here.
You made an assumption that the Bible "never lies"
But I can't help but wonder why God would round the number to 4 decimals... But if He wouldn't round at all, the Bible would be very very very large, and impossible to read.
Also I don't get why it has to be "x 10^17" or "x 10^65". But then again, who am I to understand God completely.
I would like to know if other such things are in the Bible. Can you make more vid's about that?
Yeah it's one of those things that makes you scratch your head and wonder. But it's too much to be a coincidence. I do have a few more video ideas with codes. But if you are really interested, look for the book "Cosmic Codes" by Dr Chuck Missler.
Not sure. But I think of it like a scaling factor. It increases orders of magnitude in a precise manner with a factor of 10. Now consider the scale of creating the universe.
A 10 with 17 or 65 zeros makes a lot of sense in that light - does it not?
Yeah, I've heard that there is a large number of amazing connections in the Hebrew. I'd be interested to see any movies about any of these connections. That is not the point of scripture, but it is still amazing. The codes/connections/history/prophecy/emotional impact is sooo amazing. I hope all will really read and study. God bless.
I am proving the supernatural design of the Bible considering that natural log was not invented until 1500 years later - your they were REALLY smart is a little silly.
And they have nothing to do with the writing of the Bible. So I don't see the relevance. Also it is not known if they even built the great pyramid at all because the later ones do not compare to it quality wise.
I am not saying that the Egyptians had anything to do with the Bible. My point was that you assumed that people back then wasn't smart enough to figure out the pi and other numbers. There is evidence that the Great Pyramid was built way before the Egyptians arrived. We do not know much about the history. For all we know, the knowledge of mathematics was lost over time. We can't go far on many assumptions.
One thing I should have made a big deal about but didn't is the fact that the text of John 1 was written prior to 100AD, yet he value of base e for natural log was created in the 1500s. So this value was encoded some 1400 years before man discovered it.
Funny thing is, I've just performed a similar analysis on the book "Hans Andersen's Fairy Tales" and guess what, I'm finding the same results!
SaintPhabian 4 months ago
@SaintPhabian How about you make a video demonstrating this?
jewyjewington 2 weeks ago
@TheMathgeek37 Who ever decides that we were created? There is something to that connotation within the fear of existence itself' why why should anyone fear existence? Is it the vanity in an attachment to image and knowledge questioning ones own existence? People often presume to know what they they think or believe rather than what they can comprehend' If you you cant see it you we cant know it and its simply a form of belief'
DrFruedienslip 6 months ago in playlist SCIENCE, GOD AND THE BIBLE
Temple of Solomon was built by craftsman, the Sons of Hiram of Lebanon, They knew the value of Pi,The design information in 1Kings 7:23 presumes you know your craft, the way to create the bowl, described here with multiple measurements, one diameter given for the outer reach of the Lily Rim ,and then inside this overflowing rim, is the smaller sized bowl, a sea having a circumference of 30 cubits. Of course the Lily is a bigger circle and measures ten cubits diameter, Trade Secrets of Craft
CarmineFragione 10 months ago
1Kings 7:23 describes a bowl with a perimeter of 30 cubits , but it has a design feature that makes the bowl look like an Ash Tray , having a broad rim in the shape of Lilies. So, Rim to Rim is not the bowl but the Lily extending out from the bowl and so it is Ten Cubits Diameter, and then the bowl is inside the Lily design , smaller in Circumference. There is not a problem here, any builder can use these numbers and make the object described. One must bring the Secret Craft to the Job.
CarmineFragione 10 months ago
The bowl in Kings with the Lily design would look like an ash tray, a bowl with a broad rim. So to be given the outer diameter to the lily rim's edge, and then the perimeter of the inner bowl section, you have a perfect description that anyone knowing Pi can take the given information and complete the design as a three dimensional object. The only other thing to know is the thickness of the bowl and the thickness of the Lily design rim. Edge to Edge for the Lily, is more than the inner bowl
CarmineFragione 10 months ago
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abukar1414 10 months ago
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BillyMays9111 1 year ago
Neat! Now do the same thing with 'To Kill a Mocking Bird'!
TrulyEvilBob 1 year ago
Not of this world meaning separate from the creation. Also in worldliness/ pop culture and man made ways/ traditions.
Most people now think the way they do about "aliens" and the universe because of the influence of Hollywood, pop culture and mass media. You are a product of "the world" and the beliefs you think are your own are actually results of everything you watch on TV, hear in music etc.
People think they have individuality when in reality they are amalgamations of pop culture.
Suge212 2 years ago
Wow, this video was nice and pointless.
TheRedneckAtheist 2 years ago
Why pointless?
EvolutieOnzin 2 years ago
@TheRedneckAtheist Troll more please.
mdb831 1 year ago
@mdb831 So says somebody responding to a year old comment.
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@ dirtydanzig: A mathematician: Ivan Panin tried to do just that. Write a story with these kinds of rules, and make it a readable story that actually tells something. He and few other mathematicians couldn't do it.
But Gen 1:1 does not only hold these structures of 7 but (as you saw) also PI. You can also find the name of the book and the author by skipping multiples of 7 in the beginning of each book of the Torah. (One is also Gen 1:1)
Could someone 3000s y ago do that without computers?
EvolutieOnzin 2 years ago
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EvolutieOnzin 2 years ago
What you have shown here is a relationship between words and numbers which is prefaced/presupposed by the letters being given a numerical value. (circular reasoning)
Furthermore, this "discovery" reveals nothing about the nature of creation. It merely transposes the question of creation to a different context. Lastly, how does one account for the rounding up? did God just say "ok i guess thats close enough give or take 65 decimal places." ?
truthisaquestion 2 years ago
The accusation of circular reasoning is based on ignorance.The letters served a dual purpose as the ONLY numbers in those languages - they are not merely assigned for this example.
It reveals something about the nature of the Biblical text. The 2 most compelling verses form Old and New Testament - 1000s of years apart - using the exact same equation derive the 2 most important mathematical constants for design and engineering is very compelling.
bigwhammyRocks 2 years ago 2
Its great that all things be examined. Thank you for this stimulating topic!
But there are two Thetas (at the beginning of Theos) in Jn1:1 - the 9th letter of the greek Alphabet, missing from your numerology 04:19 If you can't count the first letter of the word 'God', what use is any other counting?
Sorry to bring a downer to the party but I'd appreciate your reasoning on that.
sustaincain 2 years ago
"...65 decimal places?"
Its not surprising if you are an engineer or know how math is used.Considering the fact that we are talking about the creation of the universe its hardly surprising that they are scaled up to astronomical proportions.
bigwhammyRocks 2 years ago 2
Also, You use sigma* for 6 the 18th letter of the Greek Alphabet. I understood they used the Phoenician Digamma or Stigma for 6? In any case, this displaces the numerical values of all the letters after Epsilon - so Zeta is 7, not 6 as it 'should' have been? Also it means no Greek word-letters will express the number 6. Yet the universe has lots of 6's, and what use is 60 or 600 if you can't do just 6?
sustaincain 2 years ago
Also did you know that Gen 1:1 (in Hebrew) has 7 words, 28 (4x7) letters.
Each letter in Hebrew has a numerical equivalent.
- There is one verb ("created") with a numerical value of 203 (29x7)
- 1st and last letters of 1st and last words have a numerical value 497 (17x7)
- Value of remaining 1st and last letters is 896 (128x7)
There are 12 of these structures of 7 in Gen 1:1 alone.
You'll find them trough the whole Bible. But not in other books.
Try to explain that with coincidence!!
EvolutieOnzin 3 years ago
hOW IN THE WORLD CAN THE DISTRIBUTION OF PRIME NUMBERS BE REPRESENTED BY THE LINEAR EQUATION A(X)=1
THAT IS WHAT YOU HAVE SINCE LOG AND E CANCEL OUT
YOU HAVE A(X)=X/(LOG e^X) WHICH IS JUST 1
UnionElectroUSA 3 years ago
It was just an example of uses for ln and you are right there should be an integral.
bigwhammyRocks 3 years ago
weak sauce, ever heard of cyclosophy (the study of structural data from the great pyramid of giza)? look at the predictions in cyclosophy"
P^2 √LxB=1823 (proton/electron mass quotient)
P^4/W^2 =137,0 alpha, (the fine structure constant)
P^-5 3√L/ WB= 6,67 x 10-8 (gravitation constant)
P^1/2 B^1/3/L= 1,496 x 10-8 (earth/sun distance)
W^pi P^2 L^1/3 B^5 = 2,999 x 10-5 (speed of light)
1000 years before the bible was written by man! beat that! may ra bless you!
cosmicism 3 years ago
Chuck Missler is not the orginator of this data but Vernon Jenkins, Peter Bluer and Bevan williams in the UK
drpeterbluer 3 years ago
Thanks for the info. I'll look him up.
bigwhammyRocks 3 years ago
Also, disregarding that it may be coincidence and that these two numbers are accurate to 4 decimal places, what's to stop me from saying that the bible had extraterrestrial influence?
There, I proved that it was extraterrestrials who did this.
DeafAlien2012 3 years ago
Extraterrestrial simply means not of this earth. So in a sense you are correct,
- God inspired it - he is not of this earth.
bigwhammyRocks 3 years ago
Why would we assume that the intelligence would be so intelligent and yet lie about its self? The Bible says God, not aliens. Also, if we look at the text, which never faults or lies, why would we then make the leap to say that intelligence of the bible lies? Also, you would have to asign Godlike powers to the E.t's to say they did it or Polytheism, but what created all those gods, where's the prime mover? Why can you not say that it's God?
924142707 3 years ago
The word God is a mistranslation in the Bible. Study Hebrew language. You will find that the word God is in actuality plural. You will find the same Hebrew word in other verses which translates to gods. Also, the creation story is a copy from older sources such as Enuma Elish. Do some research.
There are many evidence in the Bible that points to extraterrestrial influence. I can go in depth but I am limited here.
You made an assumption that the Bible "never lies"
DeafAlien2012 3 years ago
Nice!
But I can't help but wonder why God would round the number to 4 decimals... But if He wouldn't round at all, the Bible would be very very very large, and impossible to read.
Also I don't get why it has to be "x 10^17" or "x 10^65". But then again, who am I to understand God completely.
I would like to know if other such things are in the Bible. Can you make more vid's about that?
dcvdmark 3 years ago
Yeah it's one of those things that makes you scratch your head and wonder. But it's too much to be a coincidence. I do have a few more video ideas with codes. But if you are really interested, look for the book "Cosmic Codes" by Dr Chuck Missler.
bigwhammyRocks 3 years ago
I will look in to that. I have seen a few video's from Chuck Missler and I'm a fan already.
But do you know how to explain the "x 10^17" or "x 10^65". Because I know God to be exact, and with those factors it seems to be "not exact".
dcvdmark 3 years ago
Not sure. But I think of it like a scaling factor. It increases orders of magnitude in a precise manner with a factor of 10. Now consider the scale of creating the universe.
A 10 with 17 or 65 zeros makes a lot of sense in that light - does it not?
bigwhammyRocks 3 years ago
Yeah, I've heard that there is a large number of amazing connections in the Hebrew. I'd be interested to see any movies about any of these connections. That is not the point of scripture, but it is still amazing. The codes/connections/history/prophecy/emotional impact is sooo amazing. I hope all will really read and study. God bless.
924142707 3 years ago
not that i don't understand this, but bassically what you're doing is using very large words and mathematics to proove a spiritual existance.
and i doubt you actually counted the words in genesis, etc. and if you actually did, why didn't you put them in the "equation" in the video?
maybe the people who wrote the bible were REALLY smart and new the right thing to do?
agnosticguy21293 3 years ago
I am proving the supernatural design of the Bible considering that natural log was not invented until 1500 years later - your they were REALLY smart is a little silly.
bigwhammyRocks 3 years ago
You do not know that. Egyptians were very, very smart. Think about those who have built the Great Pyramid. Do not assume too much.
DeafAlien2012 3 years ago
Egyptians used logarithms for what?
And they have nothing to do with the writing of the Bible. So I don't see the relevance. Also it is not known if they even built the great pyramid at all because the later ones do not compare to it quality wise.
bigwhammyRocks 3 years ago
I am not saying that the Egyptians had anything to do with the Bible. My point was that you assumed that people back then wasn't smart enough to figure out the pi and other numbers. There is evidence that the Great Pyramid was built way before the Egyptians arrived. We do not know much about the history. For all we know, the knowledge of mathematics was lost over time. We can't go far on many assumptions.
DeafAlien2012 3 years ago
PI symbolism is hidden in many works of art of MICHAEL ANGELO. Apparently someone knew more about the meaning to have influence its use.
POWERequalsGOD 3 years ago
Very interesting..
Blaze25z 3 years ago 2
One thing I should have made a big deal about but didn't is the fact that the text of John 1 was written prior to 100AD, yet he value of base e for natural log was created in the 1500s. So this value was encoded some 1400 years before man discovered it.
bigwhammyRocks 3 years ago
haha! another great video!
Keep up the good work Whammy!
God BLess!
Jonathan
Specilum 3 years ago 3
Very cool. Atheists love to spout the Bible was written and therefore created by men.
Phuh.
NephilimFree 3 years ago 5