Good on you! Stay STRONG in your Catholic Faith. You will be attacked in many ways and this PROVES that you are on the right path because Satan never attacks those whom he owns but only those who are a threat to him.
You exchanged a relationship with Christ alone for "tradition and pageantry" ? To worship mary as I see in the intro of your videos. Is Mary the center of the church or Jesus? I'm sorry,but for me it'sonly Jesus. Noone shares His Glory. I don't blameyou for leaving a dry church but tojump fromone sysytem into another "religion" was and is not the answer. seek Jesus alone and not "experience" Get into your Bible,study pray and ask Jesus alone to reveaL Himself to you, Beware of the Jesuits
@naraga09077428621 Of course not. Only through Jesus alone is one saved. No one else can complete that task. What was done once for all on the Cross is sufficient. Not any prayers for dead people,not praying with beads,not praying to statues. Christ ALONE and not Mary. Stop trying to insert Mary into salvation. That is blasphemy.
@DeliverTheWord1 We do not worship Mary. Just like you love your mother, we love and respect Mary but there is only one salvation and that is through Jesus.
@naraga09077428621 You bet it is blasphemy. The scripture states that there is no other name under Heaven through which man can be saved. JESUS alone saves. To say that Mary is the path of salvation is blasphemy. Do you mean to tell me that Mary is another way of salvation? Wow! I rest my case regarding the catholic church and it's erroneous teachings. It seems to me that you folks are more in love with your religious rituals than you are with Jesus.
@Cherubaby YOU dont know what you are talking about.you don`t even know about Mary.Mary is the intercessor to Jesus ,she brings our prayer to Him..as Jesus Christ is the only way the truth and the life to the father. WE the Roman Catholics KNOW about that...but still I will pray for you and ask mother Mary for her intercession for you, so that you will be enlightened ,take those hatred that you have stored in your heart about the true church RRC.please read Revelation Chapter 12..READ.READ.READ!
@deryl1023 What are you talking about? I AM A ROMAN CATHOLIC. I LOVE THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH. You must be confusing me with someone else on this Forum.
@DeliverTheWord1 Mary is the path that Jesus chose, not that we choose. There's a difference. When Jesus himself chose the way to come to our world, he had a choice, he's God and he knows who to choose. Stop thinking about yourself and your Jesus. Think big, of how Jesus entered the world, not how he entered you. The problem with protestants is they focus on them and their relationship with Jesus and have issues focusing on what Jesus himself focused on at his incarnation
@DeliverTheWord1 How can you have Jesus without his Mom? That is blindness!!! Stop talking about Jesus mom that way, how dare you throw insults at her??? If you pull the camera back, and look at the whole picture, and stop focusing your zoom lens on Jesus, use your wide angle lens, instead of a zoom lens, and you will see Mary enter into the field of view as your timeline for salvation begins at the beginning. Do you get the big picture?
@DeliverTheWord1 You are delusional! You don't have a "relationship" with Jesus if you are OUTSIDE of His Body, the Roman Catholic Church. You don't even have Jesus in your Church because you have NO Holy Communion, so do yourself a favour and GET SAVED!
@Cherubaby You poor soul.You are so lost in your Roman traditions and ceremonies. I won't even bother to try and reason with you. I will say that your Eucharist practice is a heresy and not Biblical at all. Christians have communion as commanded by Christ and not the heresitical practice of the RCC. You really should study somepal. The Last supper was a Passover seder. Not the "eucharist" Romanism is Babylon.
@DeliverTheWord1 What part of "eat my Flesh and drink my Blood" in John 6:53, don't you understand? You turn Christ into a LIAR by denying His Sacrifice of the Holy Eucharist and by denying His Church. Enjoy your time in HELL.
@Cherubaby You really need to learn biblical greek. I can't believe you'd use that passage to support transubstantiation. You say READ READ READ,but it would behoove you to do the same in the original language of the text. Can one be so naive??? Your into religion and not relationship and you worship idols.
@DeliverTheWord1 No need to learn Biblical Greek. We have the CHURCH to explain everything to us, the Church that JESUS Himself founded, and He promised the Gates of Hell would never prevail against her. Is Jesus a Liar? By the way, I have never worshipped idols. Worship belongs to GOD alone.
@Cherubaby "we have the church to explain everything to us"?? Wow! I guess where it says in 2 Timothy 2:15 gets tossed out the window huh? I rest my case. I see that you are totally ignorant of scripture. Ir's actually quite sad. The sad results of Catholic teachings. You need to REPENt and get saved sir. You need to know JESUS CHRIST as your Lord and Saviour and throw your nonsense religion down the tubes.
@DeliverTheWord1 I am not a Sir but a female. I know Scripture very well. 1 Timothy 3:15 says the pillar and foundation of TRUTH is the CHURCH. The Bible we have today wasn't put together until around 380 AD. Who do you think taught the early Christians until then? Who do you think put all the manuscripts together that compose our Bible today? It is the Church that you REJECT! Logically, if you reject the Church that gave you the Bible, you should reject the Bible also. Make sense?
@Cherubaby You really should study more. The "church" reference in scripture is "Eklesia" and means the assembly. It has nothing to dowith the vatican or Popes but the gathering pf believers in Christ. Not a religious groupof any denomination. They met in homes in the first century not buildings. The catholic church as well as protestant churches today are mostly all empty useless tombs and religious organizations far from Christ. You need to learn the true meaning of "church."
@DeliverTheWord1 Yes the first Christians met in homes but Jesus established more than just a group of "believers." Look at the structure of the early Church and see it had Bishops, Presbyters (Priests), and Deacons. Why was that? Watch "Apostolic Authority and Pope are Biblical" on YouTube. If you are interested I can send you more things to listen to that will PROVE the Catholic Church is the fullness of Truth.
@22grena Transubstantiation and the Eucharist are Catholic inventions and misinterpretations of Jesus words. He paid the price ONCE FOR ALL according to the book of Hebrews. You cannot continuously keep crucifying Him. Also, take Jesus off the crucifix as you show him in all your temples. He aleady paid the price and rose from the dead. He is not on that cross anymore. That is abhorrent.You said your church is Biblical yet 90% of Catholics know practically any Bible knowledge. Sad.
@DeliverTheWord1 It would seem to me, if you are eating A SYMBOL OF JESUS only, that is the closest thing to an idol that I can imagine. Where did Jesus ever command anyone to eat bread and grape juice???
@bradleesargent I'd be glad to answer. Bread and Grape juice oor wine are what Jesus was drinking and eating at the passover seder known as the last supper. According to the feast of Passover in the Bible you bless the Fruit of the vine and you bless the bread . Jesus was a jew fulfilling His role as the Final Passover lamb. Please pleasestudy your bible. It's so tragic that most Roman Catholics have very little to no knowledge of scripture.
@22grena I received my Bible fromGod as interpreted to men filled with the holy Spirit. They were written by Matthew ,Matk, Luke,John,Paul,James and a few others. The Hebrew text were written by Moses,the Prophets,King David, Solomon. You didn't know who wrote the bible? Wow! They didn't even teach you that in the RCC? How tragic. Who did you think wrote it? The Popes? Mary? I think you really need to study. Mot of te bible was written by Jews except for Luke..Not Catholics.
@bradleesargent I use the Hebrew /Greek Lexicon provided for free by E-Sword on the Internet and I also have some old books on Biblical Greek that I found in a used bookstore. As for Hebrew i am a Jew so I'm already familiar with Hebrew text and language.
@DeliverTheWord1 Which Greek source text did are you using? Is it the Textus Receptus, or the Wescott Hort? If you are Jewish, I would be interested to know why you think the Jews celebrate Hannukah?
@bradleesargent I never deny communion as being my Lords Body but transsubstantiation is a whole different matter. We do it in remembrance of Him and that is why we take it serious but to call that bread and wine the literal body and blood in the Catholicism is making it His sacrifice all over again and like I said ,Hebrews states that the sacrifice was Once for all. Question. Why do you continually want to crucify Jesus when it was done ONCE for all? IN REMEMBRANCE.
@DeliverTheWord1 What is the greek word for rememberance? Now I want you to look up that word in greek and tell me which other verse in the new testament its used in? can you do that please?
@DeliverTheWord1 Really. Read the Bible recently. This IS my body, this IS my blood. I thought you fundementalists read the Bible literally. Seems not.
Also Jesus died for our sins and we remember that.
Trouble with people like you is that you are all Popes and thats why you cant stay united for more than 10 minutes without starting another fad church.
@22grena Popes? No sir, I am a follower of my Lord and Saviour Jesus the Messiah. I belong to no organized church because they are corrupt empty mausoleums and that is not the true "church" which is the body of Christ. True believers who do not gather in buildings nor obey the edicts of that false roman pagan "religion". I don't need to put an image of a person on a cross to remenmber my Saviour's completed work. The scripture tells me everything and I don't need pagans to instruct me
@DeliverTheWord1 What is your interpretation of Acts 16:4? What was Paul doing there? Was he instructing people to obey the Bible or the decisions of the elders and apostles?
@bradleesargent When capitalized LORD it means in the Hebrew letters Yod Heh Vav Heh which is the tetragrammmaton for the Holy Name of the Creator or as referred to as Yahweh or Yahovah. If it is not capitalized it is commonly referred to as Adonai. which is just a title of Lord but not a name.
@bradleesargent That's easy. He is using the word YAHWEH or LORD. What are you trying to establish here? Just curious. What's your motive? i won't answer any more questions if you're trying to play games. Don't set any snares for me. That's a demonic practice.All the questions you've asked are pretty common which anyone should know even Catholics.
@DeliverTheWord1 Your problem and that of all protestants is you are all your own 'Popes' and not only interpret the Bible differently for each protestant denomination but also each church within the same denomination. Chaos. The Catholic Church is the most Biblical Christian Church.
@22grena No sir, we have no Pope. We put our faith in Jesus alone. Not a Pope in Rome,nor in the Virgin Mary. I'm sure Mary herself looks down on you from heaven and says "STOP WORSHIPPING ME YOU PAGANS!! Worship Jesus alone!" And I am not a Protestant nor do I worship in a building. I am a Blood bought Bible believeing Christian who had a relationship with my LORD and SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST. You people with your religious system and vatican rituals.You are anything but Biblical.
@22grena Ok continue worshiping Mary and calling on Popes and dead saints to"intercede" for you. How tragic. Who's the ignorant one? The scripture itself says there is only ONE intercessor Christ Jesus yet you blaspheme God's word by adding others to your intercessor list. Who is the ignorant one??? All you have is a "religion" You are as far away from Yeshua Ha Moshiach as the east is from the west. Catholics base their faith on "traditions" instead of a relationship with the Messiah..
@Cherubaby read up on the pagan ways of worshiping their gods, your church uses the same worship for Mary and the disciples, as the pagans for their gods, therefor you are saying Mary and the disciples are gods and therefore idolize them which is against the ten commandments.
@7missionary We do not have the right to judge others but God has that right for he is God. When I said your church is wrong in her teachings about Mary, it is because God says so through His infallible word in Scripture. So when God`s word says you do not make for yourself graven images and your church continues to make them, your church is guilty of violating God`s word, not my word. So not I but God is judging you.
@7missionary not a valid excuse. the pharisees were not perfect but Jesus criticized their religion even calling them hypocrites, brood of vipers and blind guides.
I also have become a Catholic! Thank you for your truth. All the same reasons, a most Holy Church. I love going to it, I feel so close to my Lord. Thank you Agin
My story is exactly like yours! My main experience with Christianity has been through the non-denominaitonal "Born-again" type churches.
Still, I wasn't a Christian. I went to church because I was forced to, not because the church had a "God-Rock" band playing during service.
Long story shot, God had to shake me very hard to get my eyes focused on Him. The rituals and traditions of the Catholic church help me see Him better.[Sorry for the sappy cheesiness of that statement]
I hope you will continue to ask questions about your new religion because from the Bible's own standard, many Catholic teachings contradict the teachings of Christ, the prophets and the apostles. While Scripture proclaims that "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God", Catholics promote Mary as sinless. While Scripture teaches that Christ's blood alone is sufficient to wash our sins, Catholics promote purgatory which teaches that we can die without being completely cleansed.
@MrEpitome888 If the Catholic Church made the Bible, then why is it contradicting many of the Bible's important teachings? While the Bible proclaims "ALL have sinned" (Rom. 3:23), that we are all sinful from birth (Ps. 51:5), and "as in Adam all die" (1 Cor. 15:22), the Catholic Church proclaims Mary was sinless. How do you reconcile that?
@MrEpitome888 Listen to what your own saint is saying about Mary:
Augustine Bishop of Hippo: "He, Christ, alone being made a man but remaining God never had any sin nor did He take on flesh of sin, though He took flesh of the sin of His mother."
@MrEpitome888 The Bible is never wrong but your church has been wrong many times. For instance, what does the Bible say about handling sexual immorality issues within the church? The Bible makes it clear that offenders must be punished with excommunication (1 Cor. 5) but what is your church doing?For many decades, child abuse cases had been kept secret to protect the church reputation and the offenders not disciplined according to what the Bible prescribes. Is the Bible wrong? I don't think so.
@MrEpitome888 The Bible is God-breathed. He is the author of it, not the RCC so even the RCC is under the authority of the Bible. The RCC has been wrong many times but the Bible stands without error because it is from God. While the Bible proclaims that we are all sinners from conception (Ps. 51:5), the RCC proclaims that Mary was sinless. That's one example where your church erred while the Bible is right.
@mpenaco "the RCC proclaims that Mary was sinless. That's one example where your church erred while the Bible is right."
Thats becaues Mary was sinnless...if Mary had sin then Jesus had sin..even Martin Luther believed Mary was sinless...read the Prov of James....If Jesus was to honor his mother and could have prevented her from sin then what now...well Jesus would be a sinner now wouldn't he?
@gtepp031387 Sorry to say this but I believe you are speaking from your own limited and sinful opinion without any guidance from God's infallible word. The Bible proclaims without exception that we all have sinned from the moment of conception (Ps. 51:5) and that all have fallen short of the glory of God (Rom 3:23). To teach that Mary was sinless is to make Scripture which is God-breathed, a liar and God who is its author, a liar. But we know Scripture is true so that teaching must be false.
@mpenaco Well I gues Jesus was a sinner and fallen short of the glory of GOD then since he was concieved by woman. Your interpritation of the bible is against all the holy fathers of old, even against your own Protestant sect, even Luther and Calvin believed Mary was sinnless.
@gtepp031387 Again, you are speaking from your own limited understanding. Even your own saints testify to the sinfulness of Mary:
Thomas Aquinas: "Only a sinner needs a Savior, and Mary must have been a sinner since she stated, "My spirit rejoices in God my Savior."
Augustine Bishop of Hippo: "He, Christ, alone being made a man but remaining God never had any sin nor did He take on flesh of sin, though He took flesh of the sin of His mother."
@mpenaco But you said there was no exceptions all who are concieved have sin...looks like your making scripture into a liar....your twisting of the holy Saints is rather funny...
@gtepp031387 No one is exempt from original and actual sins is what Scripture proclaims. If there was one, then God need not send his son to die for our sins. No one is worthy is what the Bible proclaims, hence the need for a "spotless lamb" in the person of Jesus Christ alone.
@mpenaco "We must except the holy Virgin Mary, concerning whom I wish to raise no question when it touches the subject of sins, out of honour to the Lord; for from Him we know what abundance of grace for overcoming sin in every particular was conferred upon her who had the merit to conceive and bear Him who undoubtedly had no sin." ~ St Augustine
@gtepp031387 Your quote from St. Augustine actually confirms what the Bible says: that the abundance of grace given to Mary was for the overcoming of sin. Augustine was right in not exempting Mary from sin but believes that abundant grace was poured upon her for the washing away of the guilt of her original and actual sins.
@mpenaco Augustine says this grace was given at HER conception...meaning that the sin was taken away before her birth, thus she had undoubtedly no sin...read the Prov of James to understand that Marys parenst sin was taken away before they gave birth to her..
@mpenaco Well then Jesus was a sinner ...unless....Mary had not sin and thus Jesus was born from his mother sinless...
Augustine is not something you can cherry pick from, have you even read a full letter of Augustine?...Tell me how he usally starts?...any guesses...well I will answere it for you...he usally starts by giving you the prespective of the heresy then he flips it around...cherry picking Augustine is not a smart idea.
@mpenaco Chron. 13:9-10 - this is another account of Uzzah and the Ark. For God to dwell within Mary the Ark, Mary had to be conceived without sin. For Protestants to argue otherwise would be to say that God would let the finger of Satan touch His Son made flesh. This is incomprehensible.
1 Chron. 15 and 16 - these verses show the awesome reverence the Jews had for the Ark - veneration, vestments, songs, harps, lyres, cymbals, trumpets.
@gtepp031387 If Mary was to be conceived without sin, then her parents must have the same status otherwise she would inherit their sins. Then her grandparents and great grandparents must have been conceived without sin or they would have passed along their sin to Mary. Adam and Eve must then be free of sin for Mary to be without any trace of original sin. I hope you see the absurdity of this doctrine.
@mpenaco Luke 1:39 / 2 Sam. 6:2 - Luke's conspicuous comparison's between Mary and the Ark described by Samuel underscores the reality of Mary as the undefiled and immaculate Ark of the New Covenant. In these verses, Mary (the Ark) arose and went / David arose and went to the Ark. There is a clear parallel between the Ark of the Old and the Ark of the New Covenant.
@gtepp031387 The parallels you are making do not disprove what Scripture clearly proclaims, namely, that "ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" (Rom. 3:23) and "Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me" (Ps. 51:5). The truth of Scripture is that Mary was not exempt from original sin. If she was, then there was no need for God to fill her with grace because grace is given for the forgiveness of sins. Mary herself confessed that she needed a savior.
@mpenaco Luke 1:41 / 2 Sam. 6:16 - John the Baptist / King David leap for joy before Mary / Ark. So should we leap for joy before Mary the immaculate Ark of the Word made flesh.
Luke 1:43 / 2 Sam. 6:9 - How can the Mother / Ark of the Lord come to me? It is a holy privilege. Our Mother wants to come to us and lead us to Jesus.
Luke 1:56 / 2 Sam. 6:11 and 1 Chron. 13:14 - Mary / the Ark remained in the house for about three months.
@gtepp031387 You should leap for joy because the Son of God finally came to save us. But instead of celebrating the coming of Jesus, you leap for joy and celebrate for Mary. Something is terribly wrong! Your adoration is misplaced.
@mpenaco We worship GOD alone, NEVER MARY, we venerate the ark of the New covenate, in the old test you would be killed if you did not venerate the ark of the covenate and GOD in fact killed some himslef that showed dishonor to it. Images are fine to make and have as long as one doesn't worship them, and the infallible dogma of the Catholic church is "worship is for GOD alone" ~ the Pope.
@gtepp031387 Mary will lead you to Jesus? You must be joking! Here's an honest question for you: When you call Mary in your prayer, how do you know that she can hear you specially when you say your prayer in silence? Is she omniscient like God? Can she hear peoples' prayers done at the same time around the world? I'd rather direct my prayers straight to God, as Jesus commanded in The Lord's Prayer.
@mpenaco Mary is one with and in Jesus part of his holy body(John 17:20-26)...again when you pay to GOD she is there with him : )..."salvation is from the Jews" meaning the Jews lead us to Christ...in the same way that "salvation is from the Jews" salvation is from Mary.
@gtepp031387 Mary is not with Jesus yet. She is still in the grave, waiting for the resurrection. Paul makes this clear to his disciples when he said:
"For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. But each in his own turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him." (1 Cor. 22-23)
@mpenaco I keep checking to see if you have removed your false quotes, but they still are here, untill they are removed I will not speak to you....this will be the last time I answer unless you remove all the fake quotes.
@gtepp031387 My quotes are not false. It's your and your church beliefs about Mary that are false and contradicted by even the brilliant minds of your own church. You make false interpretations about the inspired statements of Paul about man's sinful nature. You make the Bible a lie and of no offect by your man-made doctrines and practices. Your false doctrines are evident in the rampant evil practices committed within your church by priests, bishops, the magisterium and the pope.
@gtepp031387 All those comparisons between Mary and the Ark mean nothing to the prophets and the apostles who have testified that ALL have sinned and that we are all sinners from the moment of our conception. We all need God's mercy and grace for the forgiveness of our sins. Mary received grace abundantly for the forgiveness of her own sins so all these claims of sinlessness and being immaculate are nothing but deceptions and false teachings.
@mpenaco If ALL have sinned and this is not generally then Jesus sinned period...if ALL have died then Enoch and Elijah died, and the scripture is lying but if it is a generalization like I could say "we are all so poor right now"...but some are rich am I lying no I am making a generalization.
@gtepp031387 I pray that the Holy Spirit opens your eyes to the truth of Scripture. There is no exception to Paul's statement in Rom. 3:23. When he proclaimed those words, he was referring to all of humanity that descended from Adam and Eve. Jesus being God, is not part of this humanity. Enoch and Elijah experienced the same death that Adam experienced - the death of the spirit. The Holy Spirit raised them again before God took them. Again, this proves to you that Rom. 3:23 has no exception.
@mpenaco Rev 11:19 - at this point in history, the Ark of the Old Covenant was not seen for six centuries (see 2 Macc. 2:7), and now it is finally seen in heaven. The Jewish people would have been absolutely amazed at this. However, John immediately passes over this fact and describes the "woman" clothed with the sun in Rev. 12:1. John is emphasizing that Mary is the Ark of the New Covenant and who, like the Old ark, is now worthy of veneration and praise.
@gtepp031387 Mary is worthy of praise just like Abraham, Moses, David and the rest of the prophets and the apostles. But none of them is worthy of worship but you catholics do exactly that when you call Mary in your prayers and ask her for mercy, protection and intercession -- stuff that only God can give; and build images of stone in her honor. God will not be happy because you are putting a mere human between Him and His people.
@mpenaco WE DO NOT WORSHIP MARY...did you not ask the angles and Saints in heaven to praise and bless the LORD for you in Pslams 103 and 148?....We pray to the holy body of Christ know that Mary and the Saints that have been crowned are part of the very body of Christ they are one with and in him according to the holy word(John 17:20-26) wether you like it or not when you pray to Jesus his holy body(the Saints) are there.
@gtepp031387 You do not worship Mary? Let's see. God commands: "Thou shalt not make unto thee a graven image, nor any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them, for I Jehovah thy God am a jealous God." (Ex. 2:4-5). Catholics around the world bow down, kneel and cry in front of graven images of Mary. That's an act of worship by the Bible's definition.
@mpenaco Rev. 12:17 - this verse tells us that Mary's offspring are those who keep God's commandments and bear testimony to Jesus. This demonstrates, as Catholics have always believed, that Mary is the Mother of all Christians.
@gtepp031387 Mary is the Mother of all Christians? I doubt it! Catholics never learn an important lesson from Christ. Luke 11:27-28 is a clear warning to all who try to honor and magnify a creature instead of the creator. Jesus made it very clear that true blessedness comes from doing God's will and not in giving honor to Mary.
@mpenaco Mary is blessed can you say that?...Luke 11, as I have shown confirmes that she is blessed as Jesus first word was YEA...WHY DOES YOUR BIBLE LEAVE OUT THE YEA?.....we give honor where honor is due as the scripture commands do you?...we do not honor her above GOD, that would be Idolatry, which is what you Prots do with your bibles, you litteraly worship your bible and you accuse us of Idolatry?
@gtepp031387 We give honor to Mary but your way honoring her is not right with God. By giving her such divine titles as immaculate, gate of heaven, queen of heaven, mediatrix and co-remptrix, your church has elevated her from a created being to a divine being equal with Christ. While Scripture proclaims Christ is our ONLY redeemer, you put her beside Christ as co-redemptrix. While Scripture says Christ is the King of kings, you put Mary beside him as queen. That is blasphemy to God.
@mpenaco Sry we have not ellivated her to the position of Christ, she is Immaculate, the queen of heaven, ect...but she is not GOD, which Christ is...we do not nor ever have worshipped her, that is for GOD alone..mary had alone one biological child Jesus, the word for brother that you translate can mean anything from full brother, to half brother, to cousin, relative, even a spiritual brother...you prots are silly even Luther confirms Mary was virgin before and after Christ.
@gtepp031387 To many catholics, Mary is even greater than God. The story about Mary opening the windows of heaven when God the Father closes the door is circulating like wildfire among catholic churches. The implication of the story is unmistakeable: Even when God closes the door to forgiveness, Mary makes that possible through her greater mercy. That's an attempt to embarrass God. For who could be more merciful than God?
@mpenaco "To many catholics, Mary is even greater than God."
Sry but if one believes this one is not Catholic. "Worship is for GOD alone" and the Catholic church forbids Idolatry(or putting anything above GOD)...so again anyone who believes this is not Catholic according to Catholic dogma
@gtepp031387 By proclaiming that Mary can open the windows of heaven when God closes the door, you are actually putting Mary on a higher level than God. That's not possible of course, but that's what your church is trying to do.
@gtepp031387 Why do you need a spiritual mother? Is Jesus not sufficient for you? Did not Jesus die for you so you may face God worthy of of being called His child? Does Jesus need help from Mary in his mediatorial work? By putting Mary between God and man, you are in effect, telling God that He is not sufficient for you. Is that what you want to say to your God?
@gtepp031387 If calling Mary in our prayers is desirable and important for the Christian faith, why can't we find Jesus or any apostle doing that? Jesus prayed to God in John 17. If calling a saint in heaven is important, why didn't Jesus do it? He gave us The Lord's Prayer. Why isn't there a command to call the saints in heaven to help us in our prayers to God? David made numerous appeals to God for help in the Book of Psalms. Why isn't there a single call to a saint in heaven?
@mpenaco John 19:26 - Jesus makes Mary the Mother of us all as He dies on the Cross by saying "behold your mother." Jesus did not say "John, behold your mother" because he gave Mary to all of us, his beloved disciples. All the words that Jesus spoke on Cross had a divine purpose. Jesus was not just telling John to take care of his mother.
@gtepp031387 Notice that in John 19:26, Jesus said "behold your mother" but he never said "behold my mother". But to his disciples, he proudly proclaims: "Here are my mother and my brothers! Whoever does God’s will is my brother and sister and mother.” (Mk 3:34-35). Jesus' real mother are those who do God's will, not just Mary.
@mpenaco Mary is the mother of Jesus yes, the scripture states such in several places, are you claiming the scripture is wrong in these places?.....We are all brothers in Christ and I have many spirual mother and fathers in Christ this is true, this is no way changes how I see Mary my mother or GOD as my father.
@gtepp031387 Mary is the earthly mother of Jesus but she is not the mother of God the way Catholics promote her. Jesus clearly proclaims that his mother are those who do the will of God. Our obedience makes us mother, brother and sister to God. Mary's biological connection to Jesus bears no significance in God's Kingdom.
@gtepp031387 Show me from Scripture where Jesus himself claimed that Mary is his mother. I bet you will never find that because to Jesus, his real mother are those who do the will of God - his disciples and all those who hear and follow his words.
@gtepp031387 That's your homework for tonight. Better yet, seek the truth by reading the Bible and ask God for true wisdom. Like the Bereans, always consult Scripture to see if what your church is telling you is the truth from God.
@mpenaco Dude you are a liar and a poster of propaganda...seriously remove your posts, they have no source, they do not exist in reality, made up nonsence...I already search around and I have found 3 or 4 blogs that state they do not exist and absolutly no source...take your made up fantisy quotes and remove them from this page.
@gtepp031387 If you don't believe those posts are authentic, then maybe you will be convinced if I quote directly from Scripture which St. Bernard, St. Augustine and the others confirm and uphold:
"Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me." (Ps. 51:5)
Still not convinced? Then your issue is with God who is the author of the Bible.
@mpenaco So Jesus is a sinner becaues he was concieved by his mother, yep i see....WHICH IS EXACTLY WHY MARY HAD TO BE WITHOUT SIN....alll your doning is proving my point with that verse....last time I will ask remove the fake quotes or this covo is over.
@gtepp031387 Comparing Jesus to Mary is like comparing heaven to hell; perfection to imperfection; and incorruptible to corruptible. And that's exactly what you and your church are doing -- making Jesus depend on Mary's alleged sinlesness. But Jesus needs no human to be pure to keep him pure. Jesus' perfect character as both God and man stands alone because he is God.
@mpenaco There is no source for ANY OF YOUR QUOTES, you are a poster of propaganda!...I looked all over they do not exist..they where posted by some person know as Selah on the internet without a source, they are found no where on record...Nothing but Protestant Propaganda, and lies and you have taken the bait...sad.
@mpenaco St Lombard "I consider that the blessing of a fuller sanctification descended upon her, so as not only to sanctify her birth, but also to keep her life pure from all sin" -- LETTER XLV (circa A.D. 1140), para. 4
@mpenaco John 2:3 - this is a very signifcant verse in Scripture. As our mother, Mary tells all of us to do whatever Jesus tells us. Further, Mary's intercession at the marriage feast in Cana triggers Jesus' ministry and a foreshadowing of the Eucharistic celebration of the Lamb. This celebration unites all believers into one famiy through the marriage of divinity and humanity.
@gtepp031387 John 2:3 is a very significant verse in Scripture. But how about Romans 3:23 and Psalm 51:5? Are they not "very significant" to you that you can just disregard them and proclaim that a mere human actually lived without original and actual sins?
@mpenaco We have been over you "all" stuff...you have your twisted man made interpritation concocted in the last 1-200 hundred years...I have the interpitation of the Saints throughout all ages.
@mpenaco I bet you can not post the whole quote...I know becaues it doesn't exist..lol..please give me the letter chapter and verse this was from...lol..another Protestat propaganda with no source...lol..
@mpenaco John 2:7 - Jesus allows His mother to intercede for the people on His behalf, and responds to His mother's request by ordering the servants to fill the jars with water.
Psalm 45:9 - the psalmist teaches that the Queen stands at the right hand of God. The role of the Queen is important in God's kingdom. Mary the Queen of heaven is at the right hand of the Son of God.
@gtepp031387 What did Mary say to the people at the wedding in Cana? She specifically told them to do whatever her son asks them to do. Did Jesus ask the people to proclaim Mary as sinless or to build images of her or make her an intercessor or co-redeemer? No! All Jesus asked was for his disciples to obey the commandments of God. You see, even Mary's simple request is not followed by your church.
@mpenaco Intresting so we do not follow the commads of GOD, intresting..like eating his flesh and drinking his blood, like not having gay marriage, like not having wemon ministers, ect...yep thats us..whops no that's you guys...lol..kido please...statues where commaded in worship by GOD himself, is that all you got?..seriously?...Bowing in respect and veneration is appoved in too many passages to count, anything else or is that your whole argument?
@gtepp031387 Your church is not following God's commands that's for sure. While God is very specific that we are not to make graven images of anything in heaven or on earth and not to bow down to them, your church completely disregards that command by making all kinds of stone images and placed them inside church buildings. Catholics bow and kneel to those stone images asking for intercession, mercy and protection. That is a clear disregard for God's word.
@mpenaco "Your church is not following God's commands that's for sure. While God is very specific that we are not to make graven images of anything in heaven or on earth and not to bow down to them"
No the commadment is "YOU SHALL HAVE NO OTHER gods BEFORE ME"...You shall not make IDOLS(correct translation) becaues "YOU SHALL HAVE NO OTHER gods BEFORE ME"...if we are restricted from making images then please thow away your computer as it is in the image of somthing already on earth...well?
@gtepp031387 You are getting desperate! Your computers do not make you an idolater because you don't worship them. You do not call on them for protection, mercy and intercession. But what you do to those religious images of Mary and the saints makes you an idolater because you put them between God and yourself as mediator and intercessor and believing they can hear you when you talk to those images and give you favors like healing, protection and salvation.
@mpenaco Oh and by the way you are in the image of GOD so please you must kill yourself, and don't make babies either as they are an image of both heaven and eath, don't have phots, lol..you prots are silly...do not worship images is what the commad is saying.....and please don't even start on the pedophill crap I can give you a list 10 times the size of the Catholic one on protest ministers.
@gtepp031387 you call pedophile a crap and I agree with you. yet your church protects a lot of your priests who practice pedophilia and abuse helpless orphans. If your church respects Jesus' words that "whatever you do to the least of my brothers you do it for me", it will expose and punish those abusive priests instead of hiding them and moving them to different parishes where they can continue with their illicit acts on children. You say pedophilia is a crap? Well your church is full of it.
@gtepp031387 So your church prohibits gay marriage. That is remarkable considering the horrible child molesters among RCC priests and the RCC's attempt to hide molestation cases around the world.
@mpenaco Mary interceeded Jesus said his hour had not yet come, very clearly, and Mary asked him to do something that he did not want to, and he did it, he must becaues he must honor his mother plain and simple, we believe Jesus can not sin, to not honor his mother is a sin period, that is what it basically comes down to between the two sides.
@gtepp031387 Jesus honored his mother but not as queen or immaculate or mediatrix or co-redemptrix. These terms and the ideas behind them are all foreign to Holy Scripture. They are the product of sinful man's attempt to elevate a creature to the level of the creator.
@gtepp031387 We intercede for each other in our prayers to God. We do that here on earth while we are alive and have the opportunity to repent and change our ways. But not when we are dead because the dead cannot intercede for the living. Read Psalm 115:17. Mary died a long time ago and is awaiting her resurrection at Jesus' second coming. In the meantime she is in the grave.
@mpenaco We believe that the Saints who followed Jesus NEVER TASTED DEATH as it is written...was Mosses and Elijah dead when they appeared to Jesus?...did they not interceed?...Jesus is the only intercessore...yes heard it before...but the Saints are one with and in Jesus part of his very body so Jesus is the intercessore and the Saints are one with him...we do not believe the Saints nor mary can do anthing on there own.
@mpenaco 1 Kings 2:17, 20 - in the Old Testament Davidic kingdom, the King does not refuse his mother. Jesus is the new Davidic King, and He does not refuse the requests of his mother Mary, the Queen.
1 Kings 2:18 - in the Old Testament Davidic kingdom, the Queen intercedes on behalf of the King's followers. She is the Queen Mother (or "Gebirah"). Mary is our eternal Gebirah.
@gtepp031387 How did Jesus respond to the woman in the crowd who, like your church, tries to magnify and honor Mary?
"As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd called out, “Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you.” He replied, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.” Lk 11:27-28.
@mpenaco Bad translation Jesus affirmed that she was blessed and said "Yea"(which your "bible" apparently leaves out, whichever version that may be) "rather" in Greek means "and also"
@gtepp031387 Even if the word "rather" is actually "yea", the statement of Jesus does not make Mary special. Jesus specifically says "Blessed are those who hear the word of God and obey it". The important key is OBEDIENCE. Was Mary obedient? Of course and for that, she is blessed, and so are those ordinary people who keep and obey God's word.
@mpenaco The word rather is not yea...yea is definitly there, removed in whatever bible your using, it sounds like the NIV(which is complete and utter joke I might add)
Good on you! Stay STRONG in your Catholic Faith. You will be attacked in many ways and this PROVES that you are on the right path because Satan never attacks those whom he owns but only those who are a threat to him.
Cherubaby 1 month ago
I am a Catholic Convert too ! Glad to find the Fullness of Truth
newtochrist 2 months ago
You exchanged a relationship with Christ alone for "tradition and pageantry" ? To worship mary as I see in the intro of your videos. Is Mary the center of the church or Jesus? I'm sorry,but for me it'sonly Jesus. Noone shares His Glory. I don't blameyou for leaving a dry church but tojump fromone sysytem into another "religion" was and is not the answer. seek Jesus alone and not "experience" Get into your Bible,study pray and ask Jesus alone to reveaL Himself to you, Beware of the Jesuits
DeliverTheWord1 2 months ago
@DeliverTheWord1 you cannot be saved. alone!
naraga09077428621 1 month ago
@naraga09077428621 Of course not. Only through Jesus alone is one saved. No one else can complete that task. What was done once for all on the Cross is sufficient. Not any prayers for dead people,not praying with beads,not praying to statues. Christ ALONE and not Mary. Stop trying to insert Mary into salvation. That is blasphemy.
DeliverTheWord1 1 month ago
@DeliverTheWord1 We do not worship Mary. Just like you love your mother, we love and respect Mary but there is only one salvation and that is through Jesus.
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naraga09077428621 1 month ago
@DeliverTheWord1.... are you sue that a blasphmy?
naraga09077428621 1 month ago
@naraga09077428621 You bet it is blasphemy. The scripture states that there is no other name under Heaven through which man can be saved. JESUS alone saves. To say that Mary is the path of salvation is blasphemy. Do you mean to tell me that Mary is another way of salvation? Wow! I rest my case regarding the catholic church and it's erroneous teachings. It seems to me that you folks are more in love with your religious rituals than you are with Jesus.
DeliverTheWord1 1 month ago
@DeliverTheWord1 NO Catholic believes Mary is the path of Salvation, IDIOT! Stop lying about what Roman Catholicism teaches.
Cherubaby 1 month ago
@Cherubaby YOU dont know what you are talking about.you don`t even know about Mary.Mary is the intercessor to Jesus ,she brings our prayer to Him..as Jesus Christ is the only way the truth and the life to the father. WE the Roman Catholics KNOW about that...but still I will pray for you and ask mother Mary for her intercession for you, so that you will be enlightened ,take those hatred that you have stored in your heart about the true church RRC.please read Revelation Chapter 12..READ.READ.READ!
deryl1023 1 month ago
@deryl1023 What are you talking about? I AM A ROMAN CATHOLIC. I LOVE THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH. You must be confusing me with someone else on this Forum.
Cherubaby 1 month ago
@DeliverTheWord1 Mary is the path that Jesus chose, not that we choose. There's a difference. When Jesus himself chose the way to come to our world, he had a choice, he's God and he knows who to choose. Stop thinking about yourself and your Jesus. Think big, of how Jesus entered the world, not how he entered you. The problem with protestants is they focus on them and their relationship with Jesus and have issues focusing on what Jesus himself focused on at his incarnation
bradleesargent 4 days ago
@DeliverTheWord1 How can you have Jesus without his Mom? That is blindness!!! Stop talking about Jesus mom that way, how dare you throw insults at her??? If you pull the camera back, and look at the whole picture, and stop focusing your zoom lens on Jesus, use your wide angle lens, instead of a zoom lens, and you will see Mary enter into the field of view as your timeline for salvation begins at the beginning. Do you get the big picture?
bradleesargent 5 days ago
@DeliverTheWord1 Mary was in Jesus' heart and on his lips at the hour of his death!
bradleesargent 5 days ago
@DeliverTheWord1 Mary was in Isaiah's vision of Jesus, first Mary, the virgin, then Jesus.
bradleesargent 5 days ago
@DeliverTheWord1 You are delusional! You don't have a "relationship" with Jesus if you are OUTSIDE of His Body, the Roman Catholic Church. You don't even have Jesus in your Church because you have NO Holy Communion, so do yourself a favour and GET SAVED!
Cherubaby 1 month ago
@Cherubaby You poor soul.You are so lost in your Roman traditions and ceremonies. I won't even bother to try and reason with you. I will say that your Eucharist practice is a heresy and not Biblical at all. Christians have communion as commanded by Christ and not the heresitical practice of the RCC. You really should study somepal. The Last supper was a Passover seder. Not the "eucharist" Romanism is Babylon.
DeliverTheWord1 1 month ago
@DeliverTheWord1 What part of "eat my Flesh and drink my Blood" in John 6:53, don't you understand? You turn Christ into a LIAR by denying His Sacrifice of the Holy Eucharist and by denying His Church. Enjoy your time in HELL.
Cherubaby 1 month ago
@Cherubaby You really need to learn biblical greek. I can't believe you'd use that passage to support transubstantiation. You say READ READ READ,but it would behoove you to do the same in the original language of the text. Can one be so naive??? Your into religion and not relationship and you worship idols.
DeliverTheWord1 1 month ago
@DeliverTheWord1 No need to learn Biblical Greek. We have the CHURCH to explain everything to us, the Church that JESUS Himself founded, and He promised the Gates of Hell would never prevail against her. Is Jesus a Liar? By the way, I have never worshipped idols. Worship belongs to GOD alone.
Cherubaby 1 month ago
@Cherubaby "we have the church to explain everything to us"?? Wow! I guess where it says in 2 Timothy 2:15 gets tossed out the window huh? I rest my case. I see that you are totally ignorant of scripture. Ir's actually quite sad. The sad results of Catholic teachings. You need to REPENt and get saved sir. You need to know JESUS CHRIST as your Lord and Saviour and throw your nonsense religion down the tubes.
DeliverTheWord1 1 month ago
@DeliverTheWord1 I am not a Sir but a female. I know Scripture very well. 1 Timothy 3:15 says the pillar and foundation of TRUTH is the CHURCH. The Bible we have today wasn't put together until around 380 AD. Who do you think taught the early Christians until then? Who do you think put all the manuscripts together that compose our Bible today? It is the Church that you REJECT! Logically, if you reject the Church that gave you the Bible, you should reject the Bible also. Make sense?
Cherubaby 1 month ago
@Cherubaby You really should study more. The "church" reference in scripture is "Eklesia" and means the assembly. It has nothing to dowith the vatican or Popes but the gathering pf believers in Christ. Not a religious groupof any denomination. They met in homes in the first century not buildings. The catholic church as well as protestant churches today are mostly all empty useless tombs and religious organizations far from Christ. You need to learn the true meaning of "church."
DeliverTheWord1 1 month ago
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Cherubaby 1 month ago
@DeliverTheWord1 Yes the first Christians met in homes but Jesus established more than just a group of "believers." Look at the structure of the early Church and see it had Bishops, Presbyters (Priests), and Deacons. Why was that? Watch "Apostolic Authority and Pope are Biblical" on YouTube. If you are interested I can send you more things to listen to that will PROVE the Catholic Church is the fullness of Truth.
Cherubaby 1 month ago
@DeliverTheWord1 Do you believe in the Eucharist?
22grena 2 weeks ago
@22grena Transubstantiation and the Eucharist are Catholic inventions and misinterpretations of Jesus words. He paid the price ONCE FOR ALL according to the book of Hebrews. You cannot continuously keep crucifying Him. Also, take Jesus off the crucifix as you show him in all your temples. He aleady paid the price and rose from the dead. He is not on that cross anymore. That is abhorrent.You said your church is Biblical yet 90% of Catholics know practically any Bible knowledge. Sad.
DeliverTheWord1 2 weeks ago
@DeliverTheWord1 It would seem to me, if you are eating A SYMBOL OF JESUS only, that is the closest thing to an idol that I can imagine. Where did Jesus ever command anyone to eat bread and grape juice???
bradleesargent 6 days ago
@bradleesargent I'd be glad to answer. Bread and Grape juice oor wine are what Jesus was drinking and eating at the passover seder known as the last supper. According to the feast of Passover in the Bible you bless the Fruit of the vine and you bless the bread . Jesus was a jew fulfilling His role as the Final Passover lamb. Please pleasestudy your bible. It's so tragic that most Roman Catholics have very little to no knowledge of scripture.
DeliverTheWord1 6 days ago
@DeliverTheWord1 Where do youb think you got your Bible from. Did it drop from heaven into your lap maybe?
22grena 6 days ago
@22grena I received my Bible fromGod as interpreted to men filled with the holy Spirit. They were written by Matthew ,Matk, Luke,John,Paul,James and a few others. The Hebrew text were written by Moses,the Prophets,King David, Solomon. You didn't know who wrote the bible? Wow! They didn't even teach you that in the RCC? How tragic. Who did you think wrote it? The Popes? Mary? I think you really need to study. Mot of te bible was written by Jews except for Luke..Not Catholics.
DeliverTheWord1 5 days ago
@DeliverTheWord1 Where in the Bible does it tell you which books belong to it?
bradleesargent 4 days ago
@DeliverTheWord1 Who wrote the table of contents?
bradleesargent 4 days ago
@DeliverTheWord1 Which greek source text do you use when studying your New Testament Bible?
bradleesargent 6 days ago
@bradleesargent I use the Hebrew /Greek Lexicon provided for free by E-Sword on the Internet and I also have some old books on Biblical Greek that I found in a used bookstore. As for Hebrew i am a Jew so I'm already familiar with Hebrew text and language.
DeliverTheWord1 5 days ago
@DeliverTheWord1 Which Greek source text did are you using? Is it the Textus Receptus, or the Wescott Hort? If you are Jewish, I would be interested to know why you think the Jews celebrate Hannukah?
bradleesargent 5 days ago
@DeliverTheWord1 In your greek lexicon, in 1 Corinthians 11:29, does the word Lord (kyrios) appear?
bradleesargent 5 days ago
@bradleesargent I never deny communion as being my Lords Body but transsubstantiation is a whole different matter. We do it in remembrance of Him and that is why we take it serious but to call that bread and wine the literal body and blood in the Catholicism is making it His sacrifice all over again and like I said ,Hebrews states that the sacrifice was Once for all. Question. Why do you continually want to crucify Jesus when it was done ONCE for all? IN REMEMBRANCE.
DeliverTheWord1 5 days ago
@DeliverTheWord1 What is the greek word for rememberance? Now I want you to look up that word in greek and tell me which other verse in the new testament its used in? can you do that please?
bradleesargent 4 days ago
@DeliverTheWord1 Really. Read the Bible recently. This IS my body, this IS my blood. I thought you fundementalists read the Bible literally. Seems not.
Also Jesus died for our sins and we remember that.
Trouble with people like you is that you are all Popes and thats why you cant stay united for more than 10 minutes without starting another fad church.
22grena 6 days ago
@22grena Popes? No sir, I am a follower of my Lord and Saviour Jesus the Messiah. I belong to no organized church because they are corrupt empty mausoleums and that is not the true "church" which is the body of Christ. True believers who do not gather in buildings nor obey the edicts of that false roman pagan "religion". I don't need to put an image of a person on a cross to remenmber my Saviour's completed work. The scripture tells me everything and I don't need pagans to instruct me
DeliverTheWord1 5 days ago
@DeliverTheWord1 What is your interpretation of Acts 16:4? What was Paul doing there? Was he instructing people to obey the Bible or the decisions of the elders and apostles?
bradleesargent 4 days ago
@DeliverTheWord1 Why did Jesus have a last supper, with him breaking his body, and the crucifixion???
bradleesargent 5 days ago
@DeliverTheWord1 What does the word Lord mean in Hebrew, which Hebrew word did they translate into LORD?
bradleesargent 5 days ago
@bradleesargent When capitalized LORD it means in the Hebrew letters Yod Heh Vav Heh which is the tetragrammmaton for the Holy Name of the Creator or as referred to as Yahweh or Yahovah. If it is not capitalized it is commonly referred to as Adonai. which is just a title of Lord but not a name.
DeliverTheWord1 4 days ago
@DeliverTheWord1 When Paul uses the word Lord, which hebrew word do you think he's talking about? Especially when referring to Jesus?
bradleesargent 4 days ago
@bradleesargent That's easy. He is using the word YAHWEH or LORD. What are you trying to establish here? Just curious. What's your motive? i won't answer any more questions if you're trying to play games. Don't set any snares for me. That's a demonic practice.All the questions you've asked are pretty common which anyone should know even Catholics.
DeliverTheWord1 3 days ago
@DeliverTheWord1 Your problem and that of all protestants is you are all your own 'Popes' and not only interpret the Bible differently for each protestant denomination but also each church within the same denomination. Chaos. The Catholic Church is the most Biblical Christian Church.
22grena 2 weeks ago
@22grena No sir, we have no Pope. We put our faith in Jesus alone. Not a Pope in Rome,nor in the Virgin Mary. I'm sure Mary herself looks down on you from heaven and says "STOP WORSHIPPING ME YOU PAGANS!! Worship Jesus alone!" And I am not a Protestant nor do I worship in a building. I am a Blood bought Bible believeing Christian who had a relationship with my LORD and SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST. You people with your religious system and vatican rituals.You are anything but Biblical.
DeliverTheWord1 2 weeks ago
@DeliverTheWord1 Ignorance is bliss for people like you
22grena 6 days ago
@22grena Ok continue worshiping Mary and calling on Popes and dead saints to"intercede" for you. How tragic. Who's the ignorant one? The scripture itself says there is only ONE intercessor Christ Jesus yet you blaspheme God's word by adding others to your intercessor list. Who is the ignorant one??? All you have is a "religion" You are as far away from Yeshua Ha Moshiach as the east is from the west. Catholics base their faith on "traditions" instead of a relationship with the Messiah..
DeliverTheWord1 5 days ago
@Cherubaby read up on the pagan ways of worshiping their gods, your church uses the same worship for Mary and the disciples, as the pagans for their gods, therefor you are saying Mary and the disciples are gods and therefore idolize them which is against the ten commandments.
damianimmortalcomics 1 month ago
@7missionary We do not have the right to judge others but God has that right for he is God. When I said your church is wrong in her teachings about Mary, it is because God says so through His infallible word in Scripture. So when God`s word says you do not make for yourself graven images and your church continues to make them, your church is guilty of violating God`s word, not my word. So not I but God is judging you.
mpenaco 5 months ago
@7missionary not a valid excuse. the pharisees were not perfect but Jesus criticized their religion even calling them hypocrites, brood of vipers and blind guides.
mpenaco 5 months ago
Nevermind I have became eastern catholic and I had to get instructions from a priest and he confirmed me catholic:)
I'm now Maronite !
HolySaintMichael 5 months ago
@HolySaintMichael Congratulations
bradleesargent 4 days ago
I also have become a Catholic! Thank you for your truth. All the same reasons, a most Holy Church. I love going to it, I feel so close to my Lord. Thank you Agin
momshome68 5 months ago
My story is exactly like yours! My main experience with Christianity has been through the non-denominaitonal "Born-again" type churches.
Still, I wasn't a Christian. I went to church because I was forced to, not because the church had a "God-Rock" band playing during service.
Long story shot, God had to shake me very hard to get my eyes focused on Him. The rituals and traditions of the Catholic church help me see Him better.[Sorry for the sappy cheesiness of that statement]
CullyJ 5 months ago
Welcome home! :) I enjoyed your story... :)
alngsi 5 months ago
U r all scam
barbedbobsy 6 months ago
@barbedbobsy I am sorry that YOU feel this way! you are however entitled to your own opinion.
AmericanKagome78 6 months ago
I'm thinking of taking rcia soon :)
HolySaintMichael 6 months ago 2
welcome home. (:
catherinet227 7 months ago
I hope you will continue to ask questions about your new religion because from the Bible's own standard, many Catholic teachings contradict the teachings of Christ, the prophets and the apostles. While Scripture proclaims that "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God", Catholics promote Mary as sinless. While Scripture teaches that Christ's blood alone is sufficient to wash our sins, Catholics promote purgatory which teaches that we can die without being completely cleansed.
mpenaco 7 months ago
@mpenaco The Catholic Church made the Bible.. If the Church is Wrong, So does the Bible...Thanks God im Catholic.. God bless!
MrEpitome888 7 months ago
@MrEpitome888 If the Catholic Church made the Bible, then why is it contradicting many of the Bible's important teachings? While the Bible proclaims "ALL have sinned" (Rom. 3:23), that we are all sinful from birth (Ps. 51:5), and "as in Adam all die" (1 Cor. 15:22), the Catholic Church proclaims Mary was sinless. How do you reconcile that?
mpenaco 7 months ago
@MrEpitome888 Listen to what your own saint is saying about Mary:
Augustine Bishop of Hippo: "He, Christ, alone being made a man but remaining God never had any sin nor did He take on flesh of sin, though He took flesh of the sin of His mother."
mpenaco 7 months ago
@MrEpitome888 The Bible is never wrong but your church has been wrong many times. For instance, what does the Bible say about handling sexual immorality issues within the church? The Bible makes it clear that offenders must be punished with excommunication (1 Cor. 5) but what is your church doing?For many decades, child abuse cases had been kept secret to protect the church reputation and the offenders not disciplined according to what the Bible prescribes. Is the Bible wrong? I don't think so.
mpenaco 7 months ago
@MrEpitome888 The Bible is God-breathed. He is the author of it, not the RCC so even the RCC is under the authority of the Bible. The RCC has been wrong many times but the Bible stands without error because it is from God. While the Bible proclaims that we are all sinners from conception (Ps. 51:5), the RCC proclaims that Mary was sinless. That's one example where your church erred while the Bible is right.
mpenaco 5 months ago
@mpenaco "the RCC proclaims that Mary was sinless. That's one example where your church erred while the Bible is right."
Thats becaues Mary was sinnless...if Mary had sin then Jesus had sin..even Martin Luther believed Mary was sinless...read the Prov of James....If Jesus was to honor his mother and could have prevented her from sin then what now...well Jesus would be a sinner now wouldn't he?
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 Sorry to say this but I believe you are speaking from your own limited and sinful opinion without any guidance from God's infallible word. The Bible proclaims without exception that we all have sinned from the moment of conception (Ps. 51:5) and that all have fallen short of the glory of God (Rom 3:23). To teach that Mary was sinless is to make Scripture which is God-breathed, a liar and God who is its author, a liar. But we know Scripture is true so that teaching must be false.
mpenaco 4 months ago
@mpenaco Well I gues Jesus was a sinner and fallen short of the glory of GOD then since he was concieved by woman. Your interpritation of the bible is against all the holy fathers of old, even against your own Protestant sect, even Luther and Calvin believed Mary was sinnless.
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 Again, you are speaking from your own limited understanding. Even your own saints testify to the sinfulness of Mary:
Thomas Aquinas: "Only a sinner needs a Savior, and Mary must have been a sinner since she stated, "My spirit rejoices in God my Savior."
Augustine Bishop of Hippo: "He, Christ, alone being made a man but remaining God never had any sin nor did He take on flesh of sin, though He took flesh of the sin of His mother."
mpenaco 4 months ago
@mpenaco But you said there was no exceptions all who are concieved have sin...looks like your making scripture into a liar....your twisting of the holy Saints is rather funny...
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 No one is exempt from original and actual sins is what Scripture proclaims. If there was one, then God need not send his son to die for our sins. No one is worthy is what the Bible proclaims, hence the need for a "spotless lamb" in the person of Jesus Christ alone.
mpenaco 4 months ago
@mpenaco "We must except the holy Virgin Mary, concerning whom I wish to raise no question when it touches the subject of sins, out of honour to the Lord; for from Him we know what abundance of grace for overcoming sin in every particular was conferred upon her who had the merit to conceive and bear Him who undoubtedly had no sin." ~ St Augustine
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 Your quote from St. Augustine actually confirms what the Bible says: that the abundance of grace given to Mary was for the overcoming of sin. Augustine was right in not exempting Mary from sin but believes that abundant grace was poured upon her for the washing away of the guilt of her original and actual sins.
mpenaco 4 months ago
@mpenaco Augustine says this grace was given at HER conception...meaning that the sin was taken away before her birth, thus she had undoubtedly no sin...read the Prov of James to understand that Marys parenst sin was taken away before they gave birth to her..
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 Then I'm sorry to say that just like your church, Augustine contradicts God's word too.
"Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me." Ps. 51:5
mpenaco 4 months ago
@mpenaco Well then Jesus was a sinner ...unless....Mary had not sin and thus Jesus was born from his mother sinless...
Augustine is not something you can cherry pick from, have you even read a full letter of Augustine?...Tell me how he usally starts?...any guesses...well I will answere it for you...he usally starts by giving you the prespective of the heresy then he flips it around...cherry picking Augustine is not a smart idea.
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 Here's a quote from St. Bernard to show you I'm not cherry picking:
St. Bernard: "For this reason, our astonishment is not small in seeing that some of you are believed to
be able to introduce a new feast that is unknown to the rite of the Church that cannot be approved by
reason, that is condemned by the ancient traditions,the Feast of the Immaculate Conception."
mpenaco 4 months ago
@mpenaco Chron. 13:9-10 - this is another account of Uzzah and the Ark. For God to dwell within Mary the Ark, Mary had to be conceived without sin. For Protestants to argue otherwise would be to say that God would let the finger of Satan touch His Son made flesh. This is incomprehensible.
1 Chron. 15 and 16 - these verses show the awesome reverence the Jews had for the Ark - veneration, vestments, songs, harps, lyres, cymbals, trumpets.
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 If Mary was to be conceived without sin, then her parents must have the same status otherwise she would inherit their sins. Then her grandparents and great grandparents must have been conceived without sin or they would have passed along their sin to Mary. Adam and Eve must then be free of sin for Mary to be without any trace of original sin. I hope you see the absurdity of this doctrine.
mpenaco 4 months ago
@mpenaco Luke 1:39 / 2 Sam. 6:2 - Luke's conspicuous comparison's between Mary and the Ark described by Samuel underscores the reality of Mary as the undefiled and immaculate Ark of the New Covenant. In these verses, Mary (the Ark) arose and went / David arose and went to the Ark. There is a clear parallel between the Ark of the Old and the Ark of the New Covenant.
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 The parallels you are making do not disprove what Scripture clearly proclaims, namely, that "ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" (Rom. 3:23) and "Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me" (Ps. 51:5). The truth of Scripture is that Mary was not exempt from original sin. If she was, then there was no need for God to fill her with grace because grace is given for the forgiveness of sins. Mary herself confessed that she needed a savior.
mpenaco 4 months ago
@mpenaco Luke 1:41 / 2 Sam. 6:16 - John the Baptist / King David leap for joy before Mary / Ark. So should we leap for joy before Mary the immaculate Ark of the Word made flesh.
Luke 1:43 / 2 Sam. 6:9 - How can the Mother / Ark of the Lord come to me? It is a holy privilege. Our Mother wants to come to us and lead us to Jesus.
Luke 1:56 / 2 Sam. 6:11 and 1 Chron. 13:14 - Mary / the Ark remained in the house for about three months.
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 You should leap for joy because the Son of God finally came to save us. But instead of celebrating the coming of Jesus, you leap for joy and celebrate for Mary. Something is terribly wrong! Your adoration is misplaced.
mpenaco 4 months ago
@mpenaco We worship GOD alone, NEVER MARY, we venerate the ark of the New covenate, in the old test you would be killed if you did not venerate the ark of the covenate and GOD in fact killed some himslef that showed dishonor to it. Images are fine to make and have as long as one doesn't worship them, and the infallible dogma of the Catholic church is "worship is for GOD alone" ~ the Pope.
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 Mary will lead you to Jesus? You must be joking! Here's an honest question for you: When you call Mary in your prayer, how do you know that she can hear you specially when you say your prayer in silence? Is she omniscient like God? Can she hear peoples' prayers done at the same time around the world? I'd rather direct my prayers straight to God, as Jesus commanded in The Lord's Prayer.
mpenaco 4 months ago
@mpenaco Mary is one with and in Jesus part of his holy body(John 17:20-26)...again when you pay to GOD she is there with him : )..."salvation is from the Jews" meaning the Jews lead us to Christ...in the same way that "salvation is from the Jews" salvation is from Mary.
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 Mary is not with Jesus yet. She is still in the grave, waiting for the resurrection. Paul makes this clear to his disciples when he said:
"For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. But each in his own turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him." (1 Cor. 22-23)
mpenaco 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 The Jews hated Jesus and had him crucified so how can say salvation is from the Jews?
mpenaco 4 months ago
@mpenaco I keep checking to see if you have removed your false quotes, but they still are here, untill they are removed I will not speak to you....this will be the last time I answer unless you remove all the fake quotes.
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 My quotes are not false. It's your and your church beliefs about Mary that are false and contradicted by even the brilliant minds of your own church. You make false interpretations about the inspired statements of Paul about man's sinful nature. You make the Bible a lie and of no offect by your man-made doctrines and practices. Your false doctrines are evident in the rampant evil practices committed within your church by priests, bishops, the magisterium and the pope.
mpenaco 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 All those comparisons between Mary and the Ark mean nothing to the prophets and the apostles who have testified that ALL have sinned and that we are all sinners from the moment of our conception. We all need God's mercy and grace for the forgiveness of our sins. Mary received grace abundantly for the forgiveness of her own sins so all these claims of sinlessness and being immaculate are nothing but deceptions and false teachings.
mpenaco 4 months ago
@mpenaco If ALL have sinned and this is not generally then Jesus sinned period...if ALL have died then Enoch and Elijah died, and the scripture is lying but if it is a generalization like I could say "we are all so poor right now"...but some are rich am I lying no I am making a generalization.
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 I pray that the Holy Spirit opens your eyes to the truth of Scripture. There is no exception to Paul's statement in Rom. 3:23. When he proclaimed those words, he was referring to all of humanity that descended from Adam and Eve. Jesus being God, is not part of this humanity. Enoch and Elijah experienced the same death that Adam experienced - the death of the spirit. The Holy Spirit raised them again before God took them. Again, this proves to you that Rom. 3:23 has no exception.
mpenaco 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 Where does it say in Scripture that all have sinned "generally"? You are imposing your own sinful idea into Holy Scripture.
mpenaco 4 months ago
@mpenaco Rev 11:19 - at this point in history, the Ark of the Old Covenant was not seen for six centuries (see 2 Macc. 2:7), and now it is finally seen in heaven. The Jewish people would have been absolutely amazed at this. However, John immediately passes over this fact and describes the "woman" clothed with the sun in Rev. 12:1. John is emphasizing that Mary is the Ark of the New Covenant and who, like the Old ark, is now worthy of veneration and praise.
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 Mary is worthy of praise just like Abraham, Moses, David and the rest of the prophets and the apostles. But none of them is worthy of worship but you catholics do exactly that when you call Mary in your prayers and ask her for mercy, protection and intercession -- stuff that only God can give; and build images of stone in her honor. God will not be happy because you are putting a mere human between Him and His people.
mpenaco 4 months ago
@mpenaco WE DO NOT WORSHIP MARY...did you not ask the angles and Saints in heaven to praise and bless the LORD for you in Pslams 103 and 148?....We pray to the holy body of Christ know that Mary and the Saints that have been crowned are part of the very body of Christ they are one with and in him according to the holy word(John 17:20-26) wether you like it or not when you pray to Jesus his holy body(the Saints) are there.
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 You do not worship Mary? Let's see. God commands: "Thou shalt not make unto thee a graven image, nor any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them, for I Jehovah thy God am a jealous God." (Ex. 2:4-5). Catholics around the world bow down, kneel and cry in front of graven images of Mary. That's an act of worship by the Bible's definition.
mpenaco 4 months ago
@mpenaco Rev. 12:17 - this verse tells us that Mary's offspring are those who keep God's commandments and bear testimony to Jesus. This demonstrates, as Catholics have always believed, that Mary is the Mother of all Christians.
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 Mary is the Mother of all Christians? I doubt it! Catholics never learn an important lesson from Christ. Luke 11:27-28 is a clear warning to all who try to honor and magnify a creature instead of the creator. Jesus made it very clear that true blessedness comes from doing God's will and not in giving honor to Mary.
mpenaco 4 months ago
@mpenaco Mary is blessed can you say that?...Luke 11, as I have shown confirmes that she is blessed as Jesus first word was YEA...WHY DOES YOUR BIBLE LEAVE OUT THE YEA?.....we give honor where honor is due as the scripture commands do you?...we do not honor her above GOD, that would be Idolatry, which is what you Prots do with your bibles, you litteraly worship your bible and you accuse us of Idolatry?
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 We give honor to Mary but your way honoring her is not right with God. By giving her such divine titles as immaculate, gate of heaven, queen of heaven, mediatrix and co-remptrix, your church has elevated her from a created being to a divine being equal with Christ. While Scripture proclaims Christ is our ONLY redeemer, you put her beside Christ as co-redemptrix. While Scripture says Christ is the King of kings, you put Mary beside him as queen. That is blasphemy to God.
mpenaco 4 months ago
@mpenaco Sry we have not ellivated her to the position of Christ, she is Immaculate, the queen of heaven, ect...but she is not GOD, which Christ is...we do not nor ever have worshipped her, that is for GOD alone..mary had alone one biological child Jesus, the word for brother that you translate can mean anything from full brother, to half brother, to cousin, relative, even a spiritual brother...you prots are silly even Luther confirms Mary was virgin before and after Christ.
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 To many catholics, Mary is even greater than God. The story about Mary opening the windows of heaven when God the Father closes the door is circulating like wildfire among catholic churches. The implication of the story is unmistakeable: Even when God closes the door to forgiveness, Mary makes that possible through her greater mercy. That's an attempt to embarrass God. For who could be more merciful than God?
mpenaco 4 months ago
@mpenaco "To many catholics, Mary is even greater than God."
Sry but if one believes this one is not Catholic. "Worship is for GOD alone" and the Catholic church forbids Idolatry(or putting anything above GOD)...so again anyone who believes this is not Catholic according to Catholic dogma
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 By proclaiming that Mary can open the windows of heaven when God closes the door, you are actually putting Mary on a higher level than God. That's not possible of course, but that's what your church is trying to do.
mpenaco 4 months ago
@mpenaco But Mary is your spiritual mother there is no doubt "behold your mother" Prots.
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 Why do you need a spiritual mother? Is Jesus not sufficient for you? Did not Jesus die for you so you may face God worthy of of being called His child? Does Jesus need help from Mary in his mediatorial work? By putting Mary between God and man, you are in effect, telling God that He is not sufficient for you. Is that what you want to say to your God?
mpenaco 4 months ago
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@mpenaco"Why do you need a spiritual mother? Is Jesus not sufficient for you?"
We are all part of the body of Christ...can the hand say to the foot I do not need you?
You are saying you do not need the body of Christ this is condemned in scripture bud...you just word for word contridicted scripture!
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 If calling Mary in our prayers is desirable and important for the Christian faith, why can't we find Jesus or any apostle doing that? Jesus prayed to God in John 17. If calling a saint in heaven is important, why didn't Jesus do it? He gave us The Lord's Prayer. Why isn't there a command to call the saints in heaven to help us in our prayers to God? David made numerous appeals to God for help in the Book of Psalms. Why isn't there a single call to a saint in heaven?
mpenaco 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 The only offsprings of Mary are Jesus and his biological brothers. They are the sons of Mary and Joseph. Nothing more.
mpenaco 4 months ago
@mpenaco John 19:26 - Jesus makes Mary the Mother of us all as He dies on the Cross by saying "behold your mother." Jesus did not say "John, behold your mother" because he gave Mary to all of us, his beloved disciples. All the words that Jesus spoke on Cross had a divine purpose. Jesus was not just telling John to take care of his mother.
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 Notice that in John 19:26, Jesus said "behold your mother" but he never said "behold my mother". But to his disciples, he proudly proclaims: "Here are my mother and my brothers! Whoever does God’s will is my brother and sister and mother.” (Mk 3:34-35). Jesus' real mother are those who do God's will, not just Mary.
mpenaco 4 months ago
@mpenaco Mary is your mother yes...Mary is the mother of Jesus yes, there is scripture that states this yes.
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 Is Mary the real mother of Jesus? Let's hear it from Jesus himself:
"Here are my mother and my brothers! Whoever does God’s will is my brother and sister and mother.” (Mk 3:34-35).
mpenaco 4 months ago
@mpenaco Mary is the mother of Jesus yes, the scripture states such in several places, are you claiming the scripture is wrong in these places?.....We are all brothers in Christ and I have many spirual mother and fathers in Christ this is true, this is no way changes how I see Mary my mother or GOD as my father.
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 Mary is the earthly mother of Jesus but she is not the mother of God the way Catholics promote her. Jesus clearly proclaims that his mother are those who do the will of God. Our obedience makes us mother, brother and sister to God. Mary's biological connection to Jesus bears no significance in God's Kingdom.
mpenaco 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 Show me from Scripture where Jesus himself claimed that Mary is his mother. I bet you will never find that because to Jesus, his real mother are those who do the will of God - his disciples and all those who hear and follow his words.
mpenaco 4 months ago
@mpenaco Back to your word for word contridiction can the hand say to the foot I do not need you?
Nice cut and splice care to put the part that is missing in St Antonius quote?
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 Here's more:
Peter Lombard: "But this is asked on what account and whence is it that Mary was conceived without
original sin? We say this was impossible."
Melchior Cannas: "The dogma that holds the blessed Virgin was free from the original sin was nowhere
delivered in Holy Scripture."
mpenaco 4 months ago
@mpenaco I WILL ASK YOU AGAIN POST THE SOURCE, LETTER CHAPTER AND VERSE OF THE St. Antoninus QUOTE OR REMOVE THE POST AS PROPAGANDA!.
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 That's your homework for tonight. Better yet, seek the truth by reading the Bible and ask God for true wisdom. Like the Bereans, always consult Scripture to see if what your church is telling you is the truth from God.
mpenaco 4 months ago
@mpenaco Dude you are a liar and a poster of propaganda...seriously remove your posts, they have no source, they do not exist in reality, made up nonsence...I already search around and I have found 3 or 4 blogs that state they do not exist and absolutly no source...take your made up fantisy quotes and remove them from this page.
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 If you don't believe those posts are authentic, then maybe you will be convinced if I quote directly from Scripture which St. Bernard, St. Augustine and the others confirm and uphold:
"Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me." (Ps. 51:5)
Still not convinced? Then your issue is with God who is the author of the Bible.
mpenaco 4 months ago
@mpenaco So Jesus is a sinner becaues he was concieved by his mother, yep i see....WHICH IS EXACTLY WHY MARY HAD TO BE WITHOUT SIN....alll your doning is proving my point with that verse....last time I will ask remove the fake quotes or this covo is over.
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 Comparing Jesus to Mary is like comparing heaven to hell; perfection to imperfection; and incorruptible to corruptible. And that's exactly what you and your church are doing -- making Jesus depend on Mary's alleged sinlesness. But Jesus needs no human to be pure to keep him pure. Jesus' perfect character as both God and man stands alone because he is God.
mpenaco 4 months ago
@mpenaco There is no source for ANY OF YOUR QUOTES, you are a poster of propaganda!...I looked all over they do not exist..they where posted by some person know as Selah on the internet without a source, they are found no where on record...Nothing but Protestant Propaganda, and lies and you have taken the bait...sad.
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@mpenaco St Lombard "I consider that the blessing of a fuller sanctification descended upon her, so as not only to sanctify her birth, but also to keep her life pure from all sin" -- LETTER XLV (circa A.D. 1140), para. 4
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@mpenaco John 2:3 - this is a very signifcant verse in Scripture. As our mother, Mary tells all of us to do whatever Jesus tells us. Further, Mary's intercession at the marriage feast in Cana triggers Jesus' ministry and a foreshadowing of the Eucharistic celebration of the Lamb. This celebration unites all believers into one famiy through the marriage of divinity and humanity.
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 John 2:3 is a very significant verse in Scripture. But how about Romans 3:23 and Psalm 51:5? Are they not "very significant" to you that you can just disregard them and proclaim that a mere human actually lived without original and actual sins?
mpenaco 4 months ago
@mpenaco We have been over you "all" stuff...you have your twisted man made interpritation concocted in the last 1-200 hundred years...I have the interpitation of the Saints throughout all ages.
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 How about this interpretation from your own saint:
St. Antoninus: "If the Scriptures are duly considered, and the sayings of the doctors ancient and modern who
have been devoted to the glorious Virgin,...she was conceived in sin."
Is that part of your "interpretation of the Saints throughout all ages"?
mpenaco 4 months ago
@mpenaco I bet you can not post the whole quote...I know becaues it doesn't exist..lol..please give me the letter chapter and verse this was from...lol..another Protestat propaganda with no source...lol..
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 You are being deceived by your religion. Watch this:
youtube.com/watch?v=tClS31hNmII&feature=related
mpenaco 4 months ago
@mpenaco John 2:7 - Jesus allows His mother to intercede for the people on His behalf, and responds to His mother's request by ordering the servants to fill the jars with water.
Psalm 45:9 - the psalmist teaches that the Queen stands at the right hand of God. The role of the Queen is important in God's kingdom. Mary the Queen of heaven is at the right hand of the Son of God.
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 What did Mary say to the people at the wedding in Cana? She specifically told them to do whatever her son asks them to do. Did Jesus ask the people to proclaim Mary as sinless or to build images of her or make her an intercessor or co-redeemer? No! All Jesus asked was for his disciples to obey the commandments of God. You see, even Mary's simple request is not followed by your church.
mpenaco 4 months ago
@mpenaco Intresting so we do not follow the commads of GOD, intresting..like eating his flesh and drinking his blood, like not having gay marriage, like not having wemon ministers, ect...yep thats us..whops no that's you guys...lol..kido please...statues where commaded in worship by GOD himself, is that all you got?..seriously?...Bowing in respect and veneration is appoved in too many passages to count, anything else or is that your whole argument?
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 Your church is not following God's commands that's for sure. While God is very specific that we are not to make graven images of anything in heaven or on earth and not to bow down to them, your church completely disregards that command by making all kinds of stone images and placed them inside church buildings. Catholics bow and kneel to those stone images asking for intercession, mercy and protection. That is a clear disregard for God's word.
mpenaco 4 months ago
@mpenaco "Your church is not following God's commands that's for sure. While God is very specific that we are not to make graven images of anything in heaven or on earth and not to bow down to them"
No the commadment is "YOU SHALL HAVE NO OTHER gods BEFORE ME"...You shall not make IDOLS(correct translation) becaues "YOU SHALL HAVE NO OTHER gods BEFORE ME"...if we are restricted from making images then please thow away your computer as it is in the image of somthing already on earth...well?
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 You are getting desperate! Your computers do not make you an idolater because you don't worship them. You do not call on them for protection, mercy and intercession. But what you do to those religious images of Mary and the saints makes you an idolater because you put them between God and yourself as mediator and intercessor and believing they can hear you when you talk to those images and give you favors like healing, protection and salvation.
mpenaco 4 months ago
@mpenaco Oh and by the way you are in the image of GOD so please you must kill yourself, and don't make babies either as they are an image of both heaven and eath, don't have phots, lol..you prots are silly...do not worship images is what the commad is saying.....and please don't even start on the pedophill crap I can give you a list 10 times the size of the Catholic one on protest ministers.
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 you call pedophile a crap and I agree with you. yet your church protects a lot of your priests who practice pedophilia and abuse helpless orphans. If your church respects Jesus' words that "whatever you do to the least of my brothers you do it for me", it will expose and punish those abusive priests instead of hiding them and moving them to different parishes where they can continue with their illicit acts on children. You say pedophilia is a crap? Well your church is full of it.
mpenaco 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 So your church prohibits gay marriage. That is remarkable considering the horrible child molesters among RCC priests and the RCC's attempt to hide molestation cases around the world.
mpenaco 4 months ago
@mpenaco Mary interceeded Jesus said his hour had not yet come, very clearly, and Mary asked him to do something that he did not want to, and he did it, he must becaues he must honor his mother plain and simple, we believe Jesus can not sin, to not honor his mother is a sin period, that is what it basically comes down to between the two sides.
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 * correction...We believe Jesus COULD sin as he was human, yet that he did not sin.
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 Jesus honored his mother but not as queen or immaculate or mediatrix or co-redemptrix. These terms and the ideas behind them are all foreign to Holy Scripture. They are the product of sinful man's attempt to elevate a creature to the level of the creator.
mpenaco 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 We intercede for each other in our prayers to God. We do that here on earth while we are alive and have the opportunity to repent and change our ways. But not when we are dead because the dead cannot intercede for the living. Read Psalm 115:17. Mary died a long time ago and is awaiting her resurrection at Jesus' second coming. In the meantime she is in the grave.
mpenaco 4 months ago
@mpenaco We believe that the Saints who followed Jesus NEVER TASTED DEATH as it is written...was Mosses and Elijah dead when they appeared to Jesus?...did they not interceed?...Jesus is the only intercessore...yes heard it before...but the Saints are one with and in Jesus part of his very body so Jesus is the intercessore and the Saints are one with him...we do not believe the Saints nor mary can do anthing on there own.
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. 1 Tim. 2:5
To put Mary between God and man is to go against this teaching from God.
mpenaco 4 months ago
@mpenaco 1 Kings 2:17, 20 - in the Old Testament Davidic kingdom, the King does not refuse his mother. Jesus is the new Davidic King, and He does not refuse the requests of his mother Mary, the Queen.
1 Kings 2:18 - in the Old Testament Davidic kingdom, the Queen intercedes on behalf of the King's followers. She is the Queen Mother (or "Gebirah"). Mary is our eternal Gebirah.
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 How did Jesus respond to the woman in the crowd who, like your church, tries to magnify and honor Mary?
"As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd called out, “Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you.” He replied, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.” Lk 11:27-28.
mpenaco 4 months ago
@mpenaco Bad translation Jesus affirmed that she was blessed and said "Yea"(which your "bible" apparently leaves out, whichever version that may be) "rather" in Greek means "and also"
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 Even if the word "rather" is actually "yea", the statement of Jesus does not make Mary special. Jesus specifically says "Blessed are those who hear the word of God and obey it". The important key is OBEDIENCE. Was Mary obedient? Of course and for that, she is blessed, and so are those ordinary people who keep and obey God's word.
mpenaco 4 months ago
@mpenaco The word rather is not yea...yea is definitly there, removed in whatever bible your using, it sounds like the NIV(which is complete and utter joke I might add)
gtepp031387 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 your Bible contains appocrypha (non-inspired writings). They are the biggest joke!
mpenaco 4 months ago
@gtepp031387 The translation is correct. It is bad for you because it contradicts your own false beliefs.
mpenaco 4 months ago