there more chance ink and paper fell from the sky to make the origin of species then a man in the sky made earth and water and all the lements come out of the sky and make the earth.
Let me share, that I'm a Messianic Jew. Interesting thing about Jews, they tend to be some of the smartest people (including me) on the face of the earth. My degree in Social Sciences was earned part-time, while I worked full time and supported a growing family. One of my strongest skills is writing and analysis. I'm also an INFP. What I see and hear from you folks, frankly, is not that much and will love to see you before your Creator at the Judgement.
@petesandlisasdad You do realize that a Messianic Jew is pretty much an oxymoron right? Jews absolutely DO NOT believe that Jesus was the Messiah and have pretty much shifted away from the idea of the Messiah as a person to more of a movement. I applaud your attempt to try and worship in a way that the early christians did, but it is deplorably dishonest to call yourself Jewish.
I vote that the Atheist Experiance gather a small fundraiser to publish a bunch of books featuring the first book of the bible, genesis, with a foreward and little footnotes refuting every little thing inside it :) Whereas we have facts, Ray Comfort has . . . A banana.
"Do you really believe that magically ink fell from the sky and wrote this words in english? Well this book tells you this happened!" Is Matt talking about The origin of species or the bible?
Pride is not in the heart of the creator, it's in your heart. That's why you fight tooth and nail to resist a loving God who is waiting for you to just ask for His help. Would your earthly farther turn you away if you desperately needed help, would you call him arrogant just because you should respect him as a father? No you would just say hey dad, I am in big troube, can you help me. Well we have a heavenly Father who loves you more that your earthly one, so call on Him right now,
"Pride is not in the heart of the creator, it's in your heart."
Pride is not in the heart, it's in the mind, and looking the the character of your god Yahweh- he too seems to have these human flaws of pride and jealousy.
"you fight tooth and nail to resist a loving God"
A god who would torture someone for eternity merely for not believing, is not loving. The difference between an "Earthly" father and the "heavenly" one, is that the Earthly one is the one who demonstrably exists.
If you did not find, then you never asked! I am not sure which other one you would like me to pull. I say it again - look up and ask for the truth and if you tell me to pull another one, then I say again - look up and ask! And if you can't get the words out - then say this, "Heavenly father, in Jesus name, show me the truth, let me see the truth, open my spiritual ears and eyes and let us settle this argument once and for all." and then respond, but don't if you still have not asked!
I'm still waiting for you to pray to Allah for Moohammad's guidance. If your prayer wasn't answered, you need to wait longer (sometimes it takes a lifetime- in which case you should convert to Islam JUST INCASE you get sent to hell for following the wrong religion), or you weren't sincere enough!
Christians don't want the world full of Christians - no - true Christians want people to save them selves from eternal damnation. All it takes to sort out an Atheist is for him or her to just look up and ask for the truth, then their eyes will be opened. But they are too proud to just ask. Instead they take paint brushes and try find it in the soil. You want to be smart right? when you did not something as a yongster - you asked dad. Turn your stubborn head up and ask your Father in Heaven.
I find it very lame when Christians and Muslims think atheists are the ones stuffed full of pride, many atheists were indeed looking for a response from Allah/Yahweh, instead, we find reactions identical to that of non-existent beings. If there is indeed a god or gods that exist, sure, I would believe, but not worship. I would not worship a Stalin who has super powers - something that Allah/Yahweh would be.
@TheRoss10001 you, sir, are very full of yourself and your religion. thats the most polite way i can think of to call you a shit head. let people be and stop shoving your bs indoctrination down their throats.
the way that she holds that microphone and moves her head when she talks and all of that makes me think that she probobly gives good head. Haha just sayin. I think shes hot.
@geilman lol I noticed that too. I find the introductions are often awkward, I think it's because there are 3 people trying to talk so it's always just one big "hey how are-oh I'm good what abou...-yup"
OK I got a question for all theists. is heaven a high security prison run in the clouds with all dead believers as inmates? if not why aren't any dead christians, catholics or muslims not contacting their relatives or friends? not sending any photos or messages? if they do most of these atheist arguments will become obsolete. please answer without beating about the bush.
Lets all print a bible and put a preface on it how this book is full of rape, genocide, murder, slavery, the occult, sexism, and homophobia and do a find and replace god and Jesus with FSM and Chuck Norris.
Its just a ridiculous statement!!! How could I possibly be evolved from a monkey? We are simply too different. It just makes no sense, take for example these bananas. I mean just look at them. They are soooooo tasty. They are yellow and pretty and fit in my hand perfectly. I can't see how they could be anything OTHER than a divine fruit. Just... look at the... mmmmmmmmm, bananas... yummy yummy bananas................ I'M NO MONKEY I SAY!!!
@MetalMario03 HAHA! Oh my, I never thought of that befrore. It sounds exactly like that! and now I will think of that if I ever hear that douches name. That seriously made me lol.
@Domzdream -i'm a immigrant from Saudi and now i feel like a true Muslim in America cause soon Obama Islam hussies is going to build a grand Mosque near Ground Zero symbolizing greatness of Islam in America.Symbolically we have defeated Christianity in America by demolishing the twin tower.
The twin towers had christians, jews, muslims, non-believers within them, civilians of all stripes/colour.... If you wanted to defeat christianity, demolishing the twin towers is hardly the way to do it. Your comment makes it seem that islam is not peaceful and tolerant.
I also find it interesting the same people who claim without islam there wouldn't be no morality, worship a being that is evil and indistinguishable from satan...
@TurboDally -the united nations has already passed a resolution that it is illegal for nonmuslims to mock ,insult or making any derogatory remark about Islam. or our prophet Mohammad .So being a good citizen of America know your right!
No one gives a monkeys hoot about the United Nations, we can criticise and mock your religion of pieces anytime we wish. I have no need to mock your religion for the same reason I have no need to mock chrisitanity, judaism, scientology or any other cult. The reason why the UN needs to appease the islamics is because of how quickly they cry when their religion of pieces is mocked. Grow up children..
@TurboDally I personally would like to see this resolution/law that the UN has now made it illegal to mock muslims.
Just to let you know, I honestly I think this guy is a troll. cause seriously if he's yapping about Obama being a Muslim... yeah... yeah that's just... what can I say to that without bringing up a certain party of a particular beverage.
@samgee2007 If you have the right to believe in any silly ass religion like Islame, then I also have the right to make fun of you. Freedom of Speech is greater than any religion. And who really gives a shit what the UN says. I do not answer to them and neither does anyone else. So yes, you will be mocked until the day comes when your retarded religion finally dies out. And it will.
To what degree can you change the book and still call it by it's title? It seems illegal to change the content of a book and retain the original title. I know nothing of these laws so I'm not sure.
Is it not out of copyright now? As i understand it copyright only lasts a finite amount of time. Of course, what he done was dishonest beyond contempt, not sure if it's illegal though.
How about we distribute copies of Martin Luther's "On the Jews and their lies" relabeled as "Intro to Protestant thought" with a Swastika on the cover. More truthful than what Ray comfort is doing.
The C&C boys have a real strawman when they attack "Origins".How would this disprove evolution? Are they that stupid as to believe that Darwin was the only person who could have possibly come up with the theory? Read some history! Does the name Alfred Russell Wallace ring a bell? Someone, somewhere, would have put it together. Evolution is far too powerful to be overlooked. And the book is 150 years old. Other people have studied evolution since then.
Part of the Origins of Species' original text was omitted by ray comfort and kirk cameron. The books that they printed are worth less than the paper they are printed on.
@atheistChic Parts of the Hybridization chapters towards the beginning of the book were omitted, which explained how human selection can manipulate animals and plants, parts detailing the finches were omitted, among other portions. The Way of the Master tried to manipulate the text to try and put in the worst light as possible. They placed emphasis on darwin's analysis of the eye, a common strawman. The list goes on...
@tsrox20 At my university, I went up to them and took a copy, then asked for a couple more to give to "friends".
I took them home and ripped the Ray Comfort bullshit out. They may still not be complete, but they are infinitely better. Plus, 3 copies are now in my hands and not in less rational hands. So I consider it a win. :)
Wait a second here! How is it possible for some douchebag to just take a book and CHANGE it?! I don't get it, why is this tolerated? I thought this was a criminal action.
@skadi87skadi The book was first published 150 years ago, which makes it free game. Publising claims expire after a hundred years or so. What we should do is return the favor and stand outside of churches with bibles that have been corrected scientifically (remove all that science has disproven), historically (correct all historical mistakes), and grammatically (provide correct translations from Aramaeic and Hebrew to English, not Aramaeic/Hebrew to Greek to English). That'd piss them off.
Hmm, why do I have the feeling that if we did that, WE would be punished, while they can do what they want? Countries are mostly run by believers, you know, I wouldn't put it passed them }:(
@skadi87skadi Understandable but there has to be a point where we can say enough is enough. Just because christians are in the majority here in the United States does not make them correct. The establishment clause in the Constitution states that the government cannot establish a set religion for the nation, hence it must remain secular. Furthermore, we have a first amendment of freedom of and FREEDOM FROM religion. There is little that bible thumpers can do when it's all written down in law.
That's absurd! You can't make a movie about "Flintstones Meet Jesus"!
After all, one of those two things is a fictional representation of ancient times, without any relevance to modern times, and the other is the Flintstones!
Yeah i was given one at my school (UH) a few weeks ago, read through the intro and was convinced that the people handing it out hadnt even read the book before handing it out. I actually did what the woman said and started critiquing the intro haha. I think ill skip the rest and just rip it out.
From what I understand, most of the intro is taken verbatim from his blog and Bible tracts he's written. It wasn't written specifically to accompany the book. I haven't seen it yet, though.
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Your view is absurd, but you are entitled to your opinions! The Bible is not only scientifically relevant, but it warns us that we can escape the wrath of God. Darwin's theory is NOT scientific. I am praying that God will open your eyes and ears to the truth.
@NoodlesTux Actually the opposite of praying is doing. Wanting something and whining and complaining about it in your mind is passive, but going and doing something to obtain it is just the opposite.
You poor delusional little man. The wrath of god is laughable at best. I am afraid of that as much as I am afraid of the tooth fairy being a fat ugly guy who steals your teeth and fondles you in your sleep...
I just received a copy of this edition from a man handing them out on our college campus (NAU). While I haven't read the 50 page introduction yet, I doubt Comfort can do much more to discredit Creationism/ID than distribute one of the most influential books destroying Creationist ideals. 50 pages of conviction cannot eclipse a single sentence of truth.
According to Comfort's website, "Nothing has been removed from Darwins original work." Anthropologist and executive director of the National Center for Science Education, Dr. Eugenie C. Scott, reviewed the book and noted that Comfort deleted four chapters by Darwin that described the evidence for evolution.
I want one. It's going to be a collectors item. imagine pulling it out in 50 years, showing the grand kids and saying " you see, there really were stupid creationists back in my day".
Be sure to do that in their presence, and thank them for both the free copy of "On the Origin of Species" and for the free fireplace kindling, since they're predicting a cold snap in your area and you'd already recycled all your other junk paper.
xjakxthexripperx; Here's a better question. What if you're wrong about Islam? Or Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Animist religions, African traditional religions, Spiritism, Scientology etc, etc.
Not forgetting the sub-groups of various religions, who say that if you don't worship their God with their ways and customs, you're going to Hell anyway.
Please. For all you know, if there is a Judgement day, it'll be Odin glaring at you angrily with his one good eye, condemning you to the Aesir version of Hell (It's boring, cold, and miserable), because you had the audacity to die outside of honorable battle. Best join the army now and go get reckless on the battlefield, just to be sure.
"I wouldn't want to be the one who called the God of all creation, a liar. "
I think god speeded up light to make the universe look billions of years older than it is. Oh wait, Young earth creationists are the ones who are calling " the GOD of all creation a liar"
its kinna sad that people like ray comfort still over zealously defends the bible, but from what I read, the story of jesus christ seems to be a plagiarized version of older pagan religions, ex. Horus, Kirshna ect.
It is a possibility that Jesus was actually a fictional character, and if proven without any shadow of doubt. I cannot imagine what would happen to people like Ray who devoted their entire life to a non existing fictional character
If anybody wants to take up a collection to reprint the bible with an atheistic monologue, I would certainly be willing to contribute................GENEROUSLY!!!!
I don't understand how this is right. The book is the authors own work, as he envisioned it it shouldn't be tampered with.. how is it legal? I guess it's public domain now.
It's legal because it's an open forward, so technically Everything they're doing is legal (the fact that they have to make a point of doing it legally is another thing all together though).
I wonder how they would feel if people wrote a forward in The Bible and distributed it at 50 churches. My bet is they would be appalled and whoever did it would see charges for hate crimes. I'm not insinuating that The Origin of Species is the "Bible" of Atheism, It's just so fucking hypocritical.
No, just print a copy of the bible and have someone like Richard Dawkins or Matt Dillahunty write their own "intro" to the bible. They can cover the mass genocides and murders committed by god, or the fact child slavery is condoned.
Yea. My only problem is Ray Comfort attacked Darwin's character in his own book.
Since we don't know ANY of the authors of the Bible, we wouldn't be able to show Comfort EXACTLY what it's like. But overall if someone was to ACTUALLY do it, it would definitely be better in the Bible.
It doesnt matter that we dont know, he doesnt know Darwin either. He attacked him like that to make it seem like the theory came from a degenerate basically and that anyone who accepts it is automatically a degenerate. Which of course all the allegations he makes in the book are LIES.
We've got a golden opportunity to do precisely that! 2011 is the 400th Anniversary of the 1611 Authorized King James Version of the Holy Bible, the version claimed as the only authoritative Bible by many of the most vehement Young Earth Creationists on YouTube and elsewhere (and now you know why many of them have "1611" in their handles)!
We should produce a 400th Anniversary Edition KJV, with our own 50-page intro, including a sincerely grateful dedication thanking Ray and Kirk for the idea!
We should produce a 400th Anniversary Edition KJV, with our own 50-page intro, including a sincerely grateful dedication thanking Ray and Kirk for the idea!
Actually Bananaman and Crocoduck boy can hand me a copy.
I'll just remove their added fifty pages of bullshit, for use as toilet paper. And then I'll keep the perfectly good historical milestone of science that is the original text!
The idiots want both sides taught to kids, but would they bring an Atheist speaker to a Sunday school to teach them an atheist's view of the world? FUCK NO!!!!! (Not that any atheist would want to speak at a sunday school!)
yes the religious folk seem to demonstrate mind boggling degrees of hypocrisy, however i dont think its fair to say no atheist would want to speak at a sunday school. also ID love to see evobiologist (check out his vids) speak at a mass or a sunday school. he has an awesome style that would really appeal believers.
I didn't really make myself clear! What I meant was, if atheists went to a sunday school and demanded time should be spent teaching kids an atheistic world view, it simply wouldn't happen! But then why should it, it's a place where they are taught about God! I would be out of order if I kept protesting outside a church demanding that Evolution should be taught in Sunday Schools!
So why do Christians think they should be allowed to preach their beliefs in a science class? It's just not on!
Although I wouldn't put it past them, you really can't go by page count. That is determined by print and page sizes in books without predetermined formatting.
I would like someone to go through the book to be sure though (not sure if I'll be able to get my hands on a copy).
there more chance ink and paper fell from the sky to make the origin of species then a man in the sky made earth and water and all the lements come out of the sky and make the earth.
PinkotAnim 1 month ago
Matt and crew should write a similar forward for a new edition of the Bible and have it installed in hotel rooms throughout the world.
ChipArgyle 2 months ago
Let me share, that I'm a Messianic Jew. Interesting thing about Jews, they tend to be some of the smartest people (including me) on the face of the earth. My degree in Social Sciences was earned part-time, while I worked full time and supported a growing family. One of my strongest skills is writing and analysis. I'm also an INFP. What I see and hear from you folks, frankly, is not that much and will love to see you before your Creator at the Judgement.
petesandlisasdad 4 months ago
@petesandlisasdad hi am 12 and i has question that need answering please help:
1.are bats bird?
2.is earth flat
3.why did lot bow down to 2 angels and call them lord?
4.why god made light on 1st day then created light again on fourth day.
5. why it say polygomy,child murder,child abuse,rape and slavery good?
6.how samson killed many w/ donkey jaw
7.in exodus on mount saini is moses jehova actually a volcano?
thanks
MegaGangstaparadise 4 months ago
@MegaGangstaparadise
Hi Gangsta :)
1. No
2. No
3. Lot didn't exist
4. He's not the smartest fella
5. Because god has a sense of humour you silly billy! It's not supposed to be taken litteraly!
6. Samson is a pimp. Purple jacket and all.
7. Not quite sure what you're asking here but moses had a massive cock which explains all.
You're welcome
synyster86 2 months ago
@petesandlisasdad You do realize that a Messianic Jew is pretty much an oxymoron right? Jews absolutely DO NOT believe that Jesus was the Messiah and have pretty much shifted away from the idea of the Messiah as a person to more of a movement. I applaud your attempt to try and worship in a way that the early christians did, but it is deplorably dishonest to call yourself Jewish.
mik3sgroove 3 months ago
@petesandlisasdad bad trolling.
MagnusNyborg 3 weeks ago
I vote that the Atheist Experiance gather a small fundraiser to publish a bunch of books featuring the first book of the bible, genesis, with a foreward and little footnotes refuting every little thing inside it :) Whereas we have facts, Ray Comfort has . . . A banana.
crazyinsane500 4 months ago
1:03 Waste of my enviro-uns.
DanielBMS 4 months ago
"Do you really believe that magically ink fell from the sky and wrote this words in english? Well this book tells you this happened!" Is Matt talking about The origin of species or the bible?
AndrusPr8 8 months ago 2
WHERE IS THE MATT VS COMFORT VIDEO? why havent you relise it.
gooddarkjedi 10 months ago
I like how she holds that mic ;)
PACKyourSHITfolks420 10 months ago
haha look at the tags : "atheists are baby eating satanists". so true lol
sukablianah2 10 months ago
@sukablianah2 true? Hehe you're the dumbest guy I've ever seen on here.
hanspeterpitsch 10 months ago
@hanspeterpitsch you must be one of them evil prick!
sukablianah2 10 months ago
if god spoke the univers into existance isnt that creating something frome nothing
billbo1154 11 months ago
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Pride is not in the heart of the creator, it's in your heart. That's why you fight tooth and nail to resist a loving God who is waiting for you to just ask for His help. Would your earthly farther turn you away if you desperately needed help, would you call him arrogant just because you should respect him as a father? No you would just say hey dad, I am in big troube, can you help me. Well we have a heavenly Father who loves you more that your earthly one, so call on Him right now,
TheRoss10001 11 months ago
@TheRoss10001
"Pride is not in the heart of the creator, it's in your heart."
Pride is not in the heart, it's in the mind, and looking the the character of your god Yahweh- he too seems to have these human flaws of pride and jealousy.
"you fight tooth and nail to resist a loving God"
A god who would torture someone for eternity merely for not believing, is not loving. The difference between an "Earthly" father and the "heavenly" one, is that the Earthly one is the one who demonstrably exists.
TurboDally 11 months ago 37
@TheRoss10001 The reason why we don´t believe in the Christian God is the same reason why you don´t believe in the Muslim God: It´s bullshit.
bommobiel 8 months ago
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If you did not find, then you never asked! I am not sure which other one you would like me to pull. I say it again - look up and ask for the truth and if you tell me to pull another one, then I say again - look up and ask! And if you can't get the words out - then say this, "Heavenly father, in Jesus name, show me the truth, let me see the truth, open my spiritual ears and eyes and let us settle this argument once and for all." and then respond, but don't if you still have not asked!
TheRoss10001 11 months ago
@TheRoss10001
I'm still waiting for you to pray to Allah for Moohammad's guidance. If your prayer wasn't answered, you need to wait longer (sometimes it takes a lifetime- in which case you should convert to Islam JUST INCASE you get sent to hell for following the wrong religion), or you weren't sincere enough!
TurboDally 11 months ago 24
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Christians don't want the world full of Christians - no - true Christians want people to save them selves from eternal damnation. All it takes to sort out an Atheist is for him or her to just look up and ask for the truth, then their eyes will be opened. But they are too proud to just ask. Instead they take paint brushes and try find it in the soil. You want to be smart right? when you did not something as a yongster - you asked dad. Turn your stubborn head up and ask your Father in Heaven.
TheRoss10001 11 months ago
@TheRoss10001
I find it very lame when Christians and Muslims think atheists are the ones stuffed full of pride, many atheists were indeed looking for a response from Allah/Yahweh, instead, we find reactions identical to that of non-existent beings. If there is indeed a god or gods that exist, sure, I would believe, but not worship. I would not worship a Stalin who has super powers - something that Allah/Yahweh would be.
TurboDally 11 months ago 30
@TheRoss10001 Right, so if atheists seek but do not find, it's our fault. Pull the other one, mate.
Pinage 11 months ago
@TheRoss10001
Don't give orders to people, let them do what they want.
skadi87skadi 10 months ago
@TheRoss10001 you, sir, are very full of yourself and your religion. thats the most polite way i can think of to call you a shit head. let people be and stop shoving your bs indoctrination down their throats.
jared8455 4 months ago
the way that she holds that microphone and moves her head when she talks and all of that makes me think that she probobly gives good head. Haha just sayin. I think shes hot.
romperstompist 11 months ago
Haha, did matt do the whole,
Matt: hey how are ya.
Caller: I'm good, you?
Matt: I'm good how bout you?
*awkward silence*
geilman 1 year ago
@geilman lol I noticed that too. I find the introductions are often awkward, I think it's because there are 3 people trying to talk so it's always just one big "hey how are-oh I'm good what abou...-yup"
captain150 1 year ago
I want to host this show, just for one day, I think it will be fun.
emcce69 1 year ago
OK I got a question for all theists. is heaven a high security prison run in the clouds with all dead believers as inmates? if not why aren't any dead christians, catholics or muslims not contacting their relatives or friends? not sending any photos or messages? if they do most of these atheist arguments will become obsolete. please answer without beating about the bush.
nayanmalig 1 year ago 2
@nayanmalig I don't really get your question, but there is probably no heaven, so I guess it doesn't matter
hanspeterpitsch 10 months ago
@nayanmalig Oh shit sorry man I just realized you wrote "all theists" and I first read Atheists. My bad mate.
hanspeterpitsch 10 months ago
@hanspeterpitsch ok. no problem.
nayanmalig 10 months ago
Ok. Ok. Lets play too.
Lets all print a bible and put a preface on it how this book is full of rape, genocide, murder, slavery, the occult, sexism, and homophobia and do a find and replace god and Jesus with FSM and Chuck Norris.
MrKevMan 1 year ago
@MrKevMan That's a pretty good idea.
MakoSharkX 1 year ago
If I didn't know what it was I'd think 'Dinosaur Adventure Land' was a themepark.
Actually if it was a themepark it could be a pretty cool one, with giant rollercoasters where you careen past spinosaurs and stuff like that.
Unfortunately it's just Kent Hovind's illegal tax-fraud creation-tard museum.
Shavarnarak 1 year ago
Where can you get one of these books? It would be kinda cool/funny to have one.
bigdaddyaen 1 year ago
"Eimajuno, from Los Angeles. How are you?"
"I'm doin' all right, how are you?"
"Good, how are you?"
"...um....anyway. Um.."
I lol'd.
monkeyroadkill7 1 year ago
I DIDN'T EVOLVE FROM NO MONKEY!!!
Its just a ridiculous statement!!! How could I possibly be evolved from a monkey? We are simply too different. It just makes no sense, take for example these bananas. I mean just look at them. They are soooooo tasty. They are yellow and pretty and fit in my hand perfectly. I can't see how they could be anything OTHER than a divine fruit. Just... look at the... mmmmmmmmm, bananas... yummy yummy bananas................ I'M NO MONKEY I SAY!!!
lol : P
CommanderC4 1 year ago 2
@CommanderC4 - fucking brilliant - Honestly, I think this is a very good argument.
Not only destroy rays banana idea, but actually use it against him.
pklukepk 1 year ago
"Flint Stones meets Jesus" great line
electorg 1 year ago
cuz everybody knows that Noah had more than a few dinosaurs on the ark. How did he feed these animals?
themooddisorders 1 year ago
why is it that whenever I hear the name Ray Comfort, I think of a mattress salesman?
MetalMario03 1 year ago 2
@MetalMario03 HAHA! Oh my, I never thought of that befrore. It sounds exactly like that! and now I will think of that if I ever hear that douches name. That seriously made me lol.
c0rp53f4c3 1 year ago
Fuck you theists are dumb. Dinosaurs walking alongside mankind. (handplamSLAP)
Domzdream 1 year ago 3
@Domzdream -i'm a immigrant from Saudi and now i feel like a true Muslim in America cause soon Obama Islam hussies is going to build a grand Mosque near Ground Zero symbolizing greatness of Islam in America.Symbolically we have defeated Christianity in America by demolishing the twin tower.
samgee2007 1 year ago
The twin towers had christians, jews, muslims, non-believers within them, civilians of all stripes/colour.... If you wanted to defeat christianity, demolishing the twin towers is hardly the way to do it. Your comment makes it seem that islam is not peaceful and tolerant.
I also find it interesting the same people who claim without islam there wouldn't be no morality, worship a being that is evil and indistinguishable from satan...
TurboDally 1 year ago 11
@TurboDally -the united nations has already passed a resolution that it is illegal for nonmuslims to mock ,insult or making any derogatory remark about Islam. or our prophet Mohammad .So being a good citizen of America know your right!
samgee2007 1 year ago
No one gives a monkeys hoot about the United Nations, we can criticise and mock your religion of pieces anytime we wish. I have no need to mock your religion for the same reason I have no need to mock chrisitanity, judaism, scientology or any other cult. The reason why the UN needs to appease the islamics is because of how quickly they cry when their religion of pieces is mocked. Grow up children..
TurboDally 1 year ago 15
@TurboDally I personally would like to see this resolution/law that the UN has now made it illegal to mock muslims.
Just to let you know, I honestly I think this guy is a troll. cause seriously if he's yapping about Obama being a Muslim... yeah... yeah that's just... what can I say to that without bringing up a certain party of a particular beverage.
FNGLHR 1 year ago
@samgee2007 If you have the right to believe in any silly ass religion like Islame, then I also have the right to make fun of you. Freedom of Speech is greater than any religion. And who really gives a shit what the UN says. I do not answer to them and neither does anyone else. So yes, you will be mocked until the day comes when your retarded religion finally dies out. And it will.
baphxiii 1 year ago 2
@samgee2007 You use free speech to ban free speech.
kly45 1 year ago
@samgee2007
ppffffffff....BWAAAAAAA-HAHAHAHAHA!
er....good luck with that, ya desert bunny.
Domzdream 1 year ago
@samgee2007 I see
themooddisorders 1 year ago
@samgee2007
And now you have given yourself away as an ultra-conservative caricaturing a Muslim.
enderandpeter 1 year ago
i would have saved a weeks toilet paper and used the introduction to clean my butt instead of throwing the intro away into the garbage
elborrador 1 year ago
Tracie Harris
ddbd 1 year ago
You say, "from way of the masters series". I think you should have said from Growing Pains.
kausidya 1 year ago
To what degree can you change the book and still call it by it's title? It seems illegal to change the content of a book and retain the original title. I know nothing of these laws so I'm not sure.
trekgeek1 1 year ago
i think they just added their own introduction, which i think, unfortunately, is legal.
BillKiernan 1 year ago
What a shame, I think we should raise money to make our own bible. We can put our own preface and point out all the atrocities.
trekgeek1 1 year ago
Is it not out of copyright now? As i understand it copyright only lasts a finite amount of time. Of course, what he done was dishonest beyond contempt, not sure if it's illegal though.
godbegone 1 year ago
@godbegone
I think some copyrights are 75 years (business trademarks have indefinite copyrights) while patents are much smaller time span, like 7-15 years.
wightboy12345 1 year ago
How about we distribute copies of Martin Luther's "On the Jews and their lies" relabeled as "Intro to Protestant thought" with a Swastika on the cover. More truthful than what Ray comfort is doing.
Carpathia25 2 years ago
The C&C boys have a real strawman when they attack "Origins".How would this disprove evolution? Are they that stupid as to believe that Darwin was the only person who could have possibly come up with the theory? Read some history! Does the name Alfred Russell Wallace ring a bell? Someone, somewhere, would have put it together. Evolution is far too powerful to be overlooked. And the book is 150 years old. Other people have studied evolution since then.
Cameron and Comfort are idiots.
raz357 2 years ago 4
Part of the Origins of Species' original text was omitted by ray comfort and kirk cameron. The books that they printed are worth less than the paper they are printed on.
tsrox20 2 years ago 53
@tsrox20 which part did they leave out?
atheistChic 1 year ago
@atheistChic Parts of the Hybridization chapters towards the beginning of the book were omitted, which explained how human selection can manipulate animals and plants, parts detailing the finches were omitted, among other portions. The Way of the Master tried to manipulate the text to try and put in the worst light as possible. They placed emphasis on darwin's analysis of the eye, a common strawman. The list goes on...
tsrox20 1 year ago
@tsrox20 At my university, I went up to them and took a copy, then asked for a couple more to give to "friends".
I took them home and ripped the Ray Comfort bullshit out. They may still not be complete, but they are infinitely better. Plus, 3 copies are now in my hands and not in less rational hands. So I consider it a win. :)
captain150 1 year ago
@tsrox20 lol I just realized Matt recommended the exact same course of action in the video. I should watch things before commenting. :)
captain150 1 year ago
@captain150 you should have went up and slapped them.
IrelandRaven 11 months ago
@tsrox20
Wait a second here! How is it possible for some douchebag to just take a book and CHANGE it?! I don't get it, why is this tolerated? I thought this was a criminal action.
skadi87skadi 10 months ago
@skadi87skadi Nah, it's public domain now. Anybody can do anything they like to it. Just like the Bible :)
OgreVI 10 months ago
@OgreVI
But it's downright lying, if he says there's no fossil records, that's a LIE, and I thought that's punishable, but i guess i was wrong :(
skadi87skadi 10 months ago
@skadi87skadi The book was first published 150 years ago, which makes it free game. Publising claims expire after a hundred years or so. What we should do is return the favor and stand outside of churches with bibles that have been corrected scientifically (remove all that science has disproven), historically (correct all historical mistakes), and grammatically (provide correct translations from Aramaeic and Hebrew to English, not Aramaeic/Hebrew to Greek to English). That'd piss them off.
tsrox20 10 months ago 3
@tsrox20
Hmm, why do I have the feeling that if we did that, WE would be punished, while they can do what they want? Countries are mostly run by believers, you know, I wouldn't put it passed them }:(
skadi87skadi 10 months ago
@tsrox20
I wouldn't put it PAST them, sorry, spelling mistake.
skadi87skadi 10 months ago
@skadi87skadi Understandable but there has to be a point where we can say enough is enough. Just because christians are in the majority here in the United States does not make them correct. The establishment clause in the Constitution states that the government cannot establish a set religion for the nation, hence it must remain secular. Furthermore, we have a first amendment of freedom of and FREEDOM FROM religion. There is little that bible thumpers can do when it's all written down in law.
tsrox20 10 months ago 3
@tsrox20 if you took out all the stuff from the bible that cant be proved there would be nothing left =)
andysim232 9 months ago
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Logan52890 2 years ago
the two sexes evolved before bone structure, eyes, noses, hands, and fingers.
gobblox38 2 years ago
Are you really that stupid or is this meant as sarcasm?
Christheatheist1 2 years ago
Yeah, because dinasaurs are fairytales, and fosils are fake.
Danzaiver01 2 years ago
really man? really??
opiateofthemasses 2 years ago
LOL@ "The Flintstones Meet Jesus"
KomicGenius 2 years ago 5
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atheist are that kid who tried to one up u in high school... only in adult form
TheNarlyBones 2 years ago
"The Flintstones Meet Jesus"
Sum1 should make that a movie. I'd watch it.
glgamecoder 2 years ago 2
That's absurd! You can't make a movie about "Flintstones Meet Jesus"!
After all, one of those two things is a fictional representation of ancient times, without any relevance to modern times, and the other is the Flintstones!
Cafeeine 2 years ago 8
Yeah i was given one at my school (UH) a few weeks ago, read through the intro and was convinced that the people handing it out hadnt even read the book before handing it out. I actually did what the woman said and started critiquing the intro haha. I think ill skip the rest and just rip it out.
Randomnormality 2 years ago 2
From what I understand, most of the intro is taken verbatim from his blog and Bible tracts he's written. It wasn't written specifically to accompany the book. I haven't seen it yet, though.
davemuscato 2 years ago
I didnt know that. A bit disgusting if you ask me. The fact that this book was actually published with this intro is a bit frightening.
Randomnormality 2 years ago 2
Public domain ftw... /sigh
Cyllid 2 years ago 2
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Your view is absurd, but you are entitled to your opinions! The Bible is not only scientifically relevant, but it warns us that we can escape the wrath of God. Darwin's theory is NOT scientific. I am praying that God will open your eyes and ears to the truth.
davidwsheltonfamily 2 years ago
That's ok, you pray for us, and we'll think for you.
NoodlesTux 2 years ago 80
@NoodlesTux Actually the opposite of praying is doing. Wanting something and whining and complaining about it in your mind is passive, but going and doing something to obtain it is just the opposite.
nickrd182 1 year ago
You poor delusional little man. The wrath of god is laughable at best. I am afraid of that as much as I am afraid of the tooth fairy being a fat ugly guy who steals your teeth and fondles you in your sleep...
AtheistCause 2 years ago 4
@atheistCause: HEY, that's not funny, i was fondled by the tooth fairy when i was a kid.
BillKiernan 1 year ago
@davidwsheltonfamily, keep praying and let me know how that works out for you.
tribidemp 2 years ago 3
Thank you, I'll pray that the Spaghetti Monster will give you delicious meat balls.
Wait, that's absurd.....
theatheistinfidel 2 years ago 3
I just received a copy of this edition from a man handing them out on our college campus (NAU). While I haven't read the 50 page introduction yet, I doubt Comfort can do much more to discredit Creationism/ID than distribute one of the most influential books destroying Creationist ideals. 50 pages of conviction cannot eclipse a single sentence of truth.
DanRYoung 2 years ago 2
According to Comfort's website, "Nothing has been removed from Darwins original work." Anthropologist and executive director of the National Center for Science Education, Dr. Eugenie C. Scott, reviewed the book and noted that Comfort deleted four chapters by Darwin that described the evidence for evolution.
xephyr1000 2 years ago
I want one. It's going to be a collectors item. imagine pulling it out in 50 years, showing the grand kids and saying " you see, there really were stupid creationists back in my day".
ptango101 2 years ago 3
He, They'll still be giving you the full version of the evolution story, that's more then you get from your avarage creationist. ;)
I have to admit that it is a very good PR move om their side too..
Doesn't take away the fact that its a lot of shit though..
msh1044 2 years ago 3
I hope they come to my University. I want to get one so I can rip out the first pages and get a good free copy of the origin of the species.
MarxKnewBest 2 years ago 5
Be sure to do that in their presence, and thank them for both the free copy of "On the Origin of Species" and for the free fireplace kindling, since they're predicting a cold snap in your area and you'd already recycled all your other junk paper.
COMALiteJ 2 years ago
xjakxthexripperx; Here's a better question. What if you're wrong about Islam? Or Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Animist religions, African traditional religions, Spiritism, Scientology etc, etc.
Not forgetting the sub-groups of various religions, who say that if you don't worship their God with their ways and customs, you're going to Hell anyway.
You go ahead and play "safe bet"...
Kre4tor 2 years ago
but you got to wonder...what if hell IS real? On judgement day, I wouldn't want to be the one who called the God of all creation, a liar.
xjakxthexripperx 2 years ago
Please. For all you know, if there is a Judgement day, it'll be Odin glaring at you angrily with his one good eye, condemning you to the Aesir version of Hell (It's boring, cold, and miserable), because you had the audacity to die outside of honorable battle. Best join the army now and go get reckless on the battlefield, just to be sure.
NoAntecessor 2 years ago 4
True that.
paleomike8 2 years ago
@xjakxthexripperx
"I wouldn't want to be the one who called the God of all creation, a liar. "
I think god speeded up light to make the universe look billions of years older than it is. Oh wait, Young earth creationists are the ones who are calling " the GOD of all creation a liar"
Carpathia25 2 years ago
its kinna sad that people like ray comfort still over zealously defends the bible, but from what I read, the story of jesus christ seems to be a plagiarized version of older pagan religions, ex. Horus, Kirshna ect.
It is a possibility that Jesus was actually a fictional character, and if proven without any shadow of doubt. I cannot imagine what would happen to people like Ray who devoted their entire life to a non existing fictional character
emancoy 2 years ago 5
Better yet, what if Jesus were proven to have been an actual historical person —
— because we discover His tomb —
— with his body STILL IN IT!?
COMALiteJ 2 years ago
LOL, And I bet it would send people like Ray to the psychiatric ward.
emancoy 2 years ago 2
Haha! "Unfortunately, I just graduated from college." Best sentence ever.
kavalicious1999 2 years ago
My recommendation is to use Diigo to comment on the living waters page that has this introduction. That should be fun.
SpaceCityUSA 2 years ago
If anybody wants to take up a collection to reprint the bible with an atheistic monologue, I would certainly be willing to contribute................GENEROUSLY!!!!
drpsholder 2 years ago 5
That would be such a wonderful thing to happen!
kendrawhisp 2 years ago
I'm thinking of doing something like that and then posting it on a website where people can download it and add it into bibles . . .
shraleina 2 years ago
Yeah like i dont know, maybe a skeptic introduction for genesis, and anoither for numbers and such , kind of debunking the bible would be nice
Ryosuke1208 2 years ago
There's a video on here called genesis 2.0 the bible revisited or something.. it's the book of genesis redone with scientific language, made me lol.
mstachife 2 years ago
is that emajuno?
SuperFlyNB 2 years ago
"He's well within his right to do this"
I don't understand how this is right. The book is the authors own work, as he envisioned it it shouldn't be tampered with.. how is it legal? I guess it's public domain now.
Sconz32 2 years ago
Yes its been public domain for a long time now.
Bigbossjin 2 years ago
If it's not already public domain, I would imagine that getting the rights to print it wouldn't be too difficult.
But yea, Ray (unfortunately) is well within' his rights to express his views in the book.
But I think Ray's scheme is going to fall flat on it's face.
kosherzombie 2 years ago
It's legal because it's an open forward, so technically Everything they're doing is legal (the fact that they have to make a point of doing it legally is another thing all together though).
I wonder how they would feel if people wrote a forward in The Bible and distributed it at 50 churches. My bet is they would be appalled and whoever did it would see charges for hate crimes. I'm not insinuating that The Origin of Species is the "Bible" of Atheism, It's just so fucking hypocritical.
VelociralexBojarzin 2 years ago
Can I go to Dinosaur adventure land.
"You wouldn't lie to me, would you Uncle Martin? 'Cause if you did I'd be so angry I don't know what I'd do."
-Clifford -1982 (Martin Short)
ThomasSGibbs 2 years ago
Is the guy on the phone TJ? (A.K.A TheAmazingAtheist) It certainly sounds like him, doesnt it?
aaronmyers1982 2 years ago
Not at all.
Sconz32 2 years ago
We should send the banana-man a couple of fruit baskets including wild bananas in their natural, original, lumpy, ugly shape.
TheLastCoolName 2 years ago 2
Can we just take Ray Comfort's book and reprint it with an introduction that completely bashes him? Maybe he'll get the hint that it's wrong :P
BrellK 2 years ago
No, just print a copy of the bible and have someone like Richard Dawkins or Matt Dillahunty write their own "intro" to the bible. They can cover the mass genocides and murders committed by god, or the fact child slavery is condoned.
Shaggy6386 2 years ago
Yea. My only problem is Ray Comfort attacked Darwin's character in his own book.
Since we don't know ANY of the authors of the Bible, we wouldn't be able to show Comfort EXACTLY what it's like. But overall if someone was to ACTUALLY do it, it would definitely be better in the Bible.
BrellK 2 years ago
Alright, they included Hitler's "connection" to the theory. In the "bible intro", include that Hitler never denounced his Christianity.
Shaggy6386 2 years ago
Ooooooh and let's throw in the Crusades and Spanish Inquisition too! I mean... it's only fair :D
BrellK 2 years ago
It doesnt matter that we dont know, he doesnt know Darwin either. He attacked him like that to make it seem like the theory came from a degenerate basically and that anyone who accepts it is automatically a degenerate. Which of course all the allegations he makes in the book are LIES.
crackerkiller89 2 years ago
This is true. I wasn't even thinking of it like that, but you are correct. He DOESN'T know anything about Darwin.
BrellK 2 years ago
We've got a golden opportunity to do precisely that! 2011 is the 400th Anniversary of the 1611 Authorized King James Version of the Holy Bible, the version claimed as the only authoritative Bible by many of the most vehement Young Earth Creationists on YouTube and elsewhere (and now you know why many of them have "1611" in their handles)!
We should produce a 400th Anniversary Edition KJV, with our own 50-page intro, including a sincerely grateful dedication thanking Ray and Kirk for the idea!
COMALiteJ 2 years ago 10
Dude!!!! That is an awesome Idea!!!!
user11235813213455 2 years ago
Well, to be honest, it isn't entirely my idea.
COMALiteJ 2 years ago
We should produce a 400th Anniversary Edition KJV, with our own 50-page intro, including a sincerely grateful dedication thanking Ray and Kirk for the idea!
THAT IS A BRILLIANT IDEA!!!!
emancoy 2 years ago
I'm tempted to email Dawkins with that idea!
NoodlesTux 2 years ago
shit i mistakenly gave you a numbs down but i meant thumbs up my bad. but this is probably the greatest idea ever!
DJC0921 2 years ago
Ahh, Matt says "Origin of the species" too, I know he knows the actual title is The Origin of Species. Origin of THE species makes little sense.
Darwin42ME 2 years ago
I think they're all going to end up on ebay.
htoontube 2 years ago
I think a bigger statement should be made where thousands are involved.
Big demonstration somewhere that gets media attention. Everyone spend the money to purchase either a bible or koran.
Then start a big bonfire and everyone tosses their fairytale books in one by one.
I would be first in line..
BobbyColePopMusic 2 years ago 2
I think someone should write a 50 page intro to the bible, to expose the contradictions.
Andromedasorbit 2 years ago 7
William Harwood already did with a more accurate translation of the entire texts.
lipoicacid 2 years ago
That's a good one!
Yeah, might end up stealing it. lolz
86adamleon 2 years ago
I'm almost 50 years old and I want to go and burn the insert right in front of them.
BobbyColePopMusic 2 years ago
50 days of free ass wiping.
nolobede 2 years ago 6
wow, only 1 poo per day? and only 1 page per poo?!
allmightydouche 2 years ago 2
lol hilarious, good post douche
frankiep1222 2 years ago
haha nice one
janjust 2 years ago
Ray Comfort is my hero! I would pay .0001 for his book!
99minerkc 2 years ago
Actually Bananaman and Crocoduck boy can hand me a copy.
I'll just remove their added fifty pages of bullshit, for use as toilet paper. And then I'll keep the perfectly good historical milestone of science that is the original text!
Shavarnarak 2 years ago
Hey Kirk and Ray, that's not a bad idea!
I should do that with the Bible!
But then again 1)It'll be way too easy 2) It'll take way too long and 3)Bible Literalists will try to burn me at the stake for it!
Bowmaj21 2 years ago
You stake is ready for you!
99minerkc 2 years ago
i want to see hitchens write a 50 page intro to the bible and hand it out to churches in the south. u watch how fast the 10,000 lawsuits are filed.
frankiep1222 2 years ago 3
Exactly!
The idiots want both sides taught to kids, but would they bring an Atheist speaker to a Sunday school to teach them an atheist's view of the world? FUCK NO!!!!! (Not that any atheist would want to speak at a sunday school!)
It's hipocrisy to the highest level!
Bowmaj21 2 years ago 3
yes the religious folk seem to demonstrate mind boggling degrees of hypocrisy, however i dont think its fair to say no atheist would want to speak at a sunday school. also ID love to see evobiologist (check out his vids) speak at a mass or a sunday school. he has an awesome style that would really appeal believers.
frankiep1222 2 years ago
I didn't really make myself clear! What I meant was, if atheists went to a sunday school and demanded time should be spent teaching kids an atheistic world view, it simply wouldn't happen! But then why should it, it's a place where they are taught about God! I would be out of order if I kept protesting outside a church demanding that Evolution should be taught in Sunday Schools!
So why do Christians think they should be allowed to preach their beliefs in a science class? It's just not on!
Bowmaj21 2 years ago 2
I liked the way you made your point.
Key2daUnderground 2 years ago
HEY IT'S EIMAJUNO!!!!!
sthebg20 2 years ago
They are taking out four chapters in the Origin of species. What a bunch of fucktards.
Jimb0can 2 years ago
I had a similar idea to Tracy's, annotate the thing and give it to the library.
Has anyone thought of making a website dedicated to refuting the introduction? Then we could just write a url in the margins.
HoleDweller 2 years ago
I guarantee you the moronic ideas in the introduction have been refuted over, and over, and over again.
They don't care. They don't want to know what is real, and they don't care about being right.
Eshto 2 years ago
I know they have, I just think a specific, prepared response to this work of idiocy would be useful. :)
HoleDweller 2 years ago
They editted the rest of the book aswell you know
KarinMikazuki 2 years ago
They edited the origin of species?
How much and where?
BlizBob 2 years ago
I wanna tell that asshole that gave me thumbs down to go and fuck a rock because I am not talking outta my ass
the original is about 500 pages long (491 to be exact) and Kirk's version is about 300 pages...
DING DING DING?
KarinMikazuki 2 years ago
That's not actually proof that they did change anything. The might use different size font for example.
That would actually make sense because I'm sure that if a book has less pages it's also cheaper to print.
But we will find out if they did change anything and if they did... well... I'm sure that there is a law in United States about that.
BlizBob 2 years ago
Considering that they can poison the well with the 50 page introduction, who knows if they can get away with pissing on the rest of the book too
KarinMikazuki 2 years ago
Although I wouldn't put it past them, you really can't go by page count. That is determined by print and page sizes in books without predetermined formatting.
I would like someone to go through the book to be sure though (not sure if I'll be able to get my hands on a copy).
HoleDweller 2 years ago