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[mattthedamon]

Guys lets not blame each other here. Pakistan is certainly the aggravator here with their continuing support to terrorism however India has not been earnest in its follow up also. India could do better if there was peace in the region. If the Kashmiris want to talk then why does Pakistan promote violence, are they scared of the results of negotiations?? India was to blame a few years ago for being rigid but after giving ample space to Musharraf and still no improvement coming abt they are OK.

[bollyking2000]

who is this dumb pakistani? laundering the jihadi propaganda that somehow kashmir wants to be independent.

[alostguy]

JIHADI ?  india has denied plebcite to kashmiris since 1948 as she knows what will be the outcome of any such exercise . lets give kashmiris 'right of determination' on both sides of LOC and resolve this matter once for all .

[okna123]

"plebiscite" not plebcite, to any demographic will result into more divisions.

Muslims will ask for Islamic country, Hindus for Hindu nation, Christians.. Sikh.. Jews..

Plebiscite to Pathans, Sindhi & Baloch will make three new countries.

Tibetans, Huis, Malay Hindus / Chinese, Mongols in China.

[alostguy]

It wasnt us but Nehru who promised Kashmiris plebicite. . No indian ever explained why Nehru promised a pelbicite when he didnt mean it . Plus there are UN resolution on Kashmir .

Pathans, punjabis , sindhis wont ask for plebicite as there isnt any UN resoultion calling for it .they voted to join Pakistan in 1945-46 elections . Kashmiris have an histroical argument that dates back to 1948. Dont mix apples and oranges .

[okna123]

If Nehru he went back on his promice then there must be a reason behind that.For muslims to become radical terrorist it only takes one koran thumping fanatic,there is no point for plebiscite.And also UN have NO ROLE to play in Kashmir, it is between India and Kashmiris.America always had too much influence on UN and used Kashmir issue for strategic reasons,coz India's closeness to Russia.Kashmiris never voted to join Pakistan,& Kashmir have as much historical argument as Baluschistanis

[okna123]

2004 election is answer to you, 40% turnout.

40% is better than turnout in most of India and USA (birth place of modern democracy)

Why did so many Kashmiris got Involved in INDIA's democratic process ?

[mattthedamon]

true. however it is the US's problem also mate. that is because india, after giving musharraf ample breating space to maneouver against jihadis has not been shown any visible signs of improvement and that is due to the US not pressuring Pakistan enough. Unless the US pressurizes ,the Pakistan there will be, believe me- NO progress. the recent embassy bombings are sign that India's efforts are met with violence.The ball is now in Pakistan's court.And if Obama is elected then we are in for trouble

[Lowpostdefence]

Budday you are killing this paki prokistani pisslamist, seems to me he have his ass inside his ass.

I think he is securing his sphincter from the great paedopheliac wrath of Prohet Muhammed.

He loves tight tender hairless (boylike) holes.

[okna123]

"plebiscite" not plebcite, to any demographic will result into more divisions.

Muslims will ask for Islamic country, Hindus for Hindu nation, Christians.. Sikh.. Jews..

Plebiscite to Pathans, Sindhi & Baloch will make three new countries.

Tibetans, Huis, Malay Hindus / Chinese, Mongols in China.

Give me any large nation and i can assure you that plebiscite will result into new borders.

Give me plebiscite, and i will make 20 yards my very own nation and me its leader.

[alostguy]

You can come up with a better argument to justify why india has denied kashmiris their right of self determination .

Not everyone would like to break from federation if given the choice , its not practical . I give u example of your own country , do u have separatist movements in all of ur states ? even though india comprises of people with distinct identities and background most of u are ok with federation This sticking ur head in the sand attitude will lead u no where

[okna123]

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You people were born with your head stuck inside your ass.And yes most of our states have separatist movements, every ethnic group can have separatist movement.For most people it takes a pamphlet for Muslims it is an AK47 to announce their separatist views.

What Muslims believe is that they OWN Kashmir, it belongs as much to those Hindus Buddhist and Sikh (most of them your army butchered).

Hari Singh chose India, get used to it.

[okna123]

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Bring back Hindus Sikhs Buddhist killed my jihadi Muslims in Kashmir.

Lets give Shia's Sunni's, Liberal Muslims, Conservative Muslims, Saudi poor, Iran's Zoroastrians, Turkey's liberals in totalitarian regime 'right of determination'.

Lets give Muslim women to have equal rights, to learn, to earn, to wear what they want and marry as many man as Muslim men do.

Lets give minority religions in Islamic nations 'right of determination'.

[alostguy]

Coming from india you hold little moral high ground to give us lesson on rights of minorities. It was in india where sikhs were massacred in delhi. Most recently in 2002 thousands of muslims were butchered in broad day light by state's hindu government.

Unforutnatley the blood of a muslim has gone really cheap these days and none of the so called world powers held india accountable for it . But we know wat your true color is

[okna123]

Really ? Looking at minority population in India, they are thriving. Whereas in almost every Islamic nation they have simply _disappeared_.There is no Hindu government in India, but Islamic nation are "Islamic", massacres like Godhra in which 100+ Hindu pilgrims were burnt alive in a train by followers of Religion Of Peace (Muhammadans).Muslims are the real trouble makers, you have problem with whole world, your Allah first butchered pagans, then you continued killings in crusades.

[okna123]

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then started killing Zoroastrians then Jews Hindus Sikh..Being Muslim you have no moral ground in any argument asking for freedom and peace, when your religion is based on violence.Your religion preaches a bloody paedophile, it is so funny that you challenge my moral ground.

[okna123]

Do YOU or your Padeophile worshpping army hold any moral gorund when you :-

1) Butchered Kashmiri Hindu Padits, Sikh and Buddhist in Kashmir. (In name of Allah)

2) Butchered Hindus in Bangladesh and continue to do so.3) Butchered Hindus and Sikh in Name of allah in Pakistan to an extent that they are virtually non existant.4) Butchered Bengali Hindus in DIrect Action Day.That for a 9 year old (Aisha) raping man in broad day / moon light.You Have done name to Zorastrians Jews Pragans Christians

[okna123]

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Then i think India too would be happy to give same freedom to Kashmiris.Then i think India too would be happy to give same freedom to Kashmiris.There cannot be a nation with only one ethnic group and every ethnic group will have some separatist views.So no India, will never give plebiscite.You should know something about India's history, when it was divided every king was asked to decide which side they will chose, Hari Singh (Kashmir's King) decided on India

[okna123]

(continued..), but that pissed Jinnah off when he learnt that, so he ordered thousand of mujaheddin to enter Kashmir and start guerrilla war against hari SIngh.Hari Singh asked for Nehru to halt payment of money to Pakistan until they they stop military and Pakistani mujaheddin.Gandhi fasted till Nehru gave up and transferred 55 crore to Pakistan.

[okna123]

I remember there was almost 42% voting turnout in Kashmir, more than birthplace of modern democracy USA, that is answer enough for paedophile worshipping terrorist who attacked voting booths and people like you.

Votes were stored in absolutely flawless EVM, before they eyes of world media present in J&K.How many Islamic nation have such free and fair elections ? Pakistan ? Afghanistan ? Iran ? BTW, WHY is that foreign media

is not allowed in Azad Kashmir and POK ?

[okna123]

Plebscite ?

Radical followers of Paedophile butchered Hindu Sikh Pagans Buddhist Jews Zorastrians Americans Christians Russians.

Since the Paedophile told them to do so.