@OneKnight1234 god I dont know how I remember this shit... but just by the Icons on the left side ( his Poisons ) I can tell you he is using Krol Blade and 1 of the Twin UBRS swords. I believe Krol was Main hand only so it must be the offhand sword.
Wow, this looks incredibly hardcore and complicated. I like the add control, void zone handling and most of all your quick tactical decisions in transition phases.
People that are new WoW you should be lucky that you didnt play Vanilla having to run 30 mins to get to a dungeon sucked, now you just instant que,. Also it was hard to get epics back then, and usally the enemy was more powerful then you cause all your abilitys sucked, Pallys had 30 second seals early vanilla, and were only really viable as a Healer. BC was the best in raid content compared to all the others.
@antonolluri Hey, this is the first Raid.. This is where your awesome game started, but why do you stop here? you think you figured out all that Vanilla wow had just by seeing what is regarded by almost all ex-Vanilla players as the worst raid of all time? I don't think so..
Try and see fights from all the next raids which are Zul'Gurub, Onyxia's Lair, Blackwing Lair, Ruins of Ahn'Qiraj(AQ20), Temple of Ahn'Qiraj(AQ40) and finally Naxxramas.
@antonolluri i dont think ppl want the actual xpac back as much as they want the feeling it gave. might sounds a bit wierd but really. you had just started your epic "adventure" in an unexplored world n such. it was just awesome ;D i'd personally do anything to be able to go back to the vanilla or tbc times.
we did this raid in my raid guild i ninja looted all the shit he dropped the guy that wanted the stuff then bought it off me for 7000gold LOL IT WAS SHIT DROP AS WELL cant remember name but it was only a blue
@ByPhantomYuki I don't play wow anymore but Cata is horrible. the new LFD system completely fucked up the whole community. I would preffer vanilla over cata any day, but in all honesty TBC was the best.
If anyone has any doubts on whether or not this is the true world first kill of Rag, sk gaming has all the world firsts pinned on their boards - Ascent having world first kill of Rag included.
And no,classic raids were no more difficult than heroic cata raids. BUT, keep in mind with 40 people in 1 raid, a lot of shit can go wrong. Although the mechanics might look easier, getting 40 ppl through 1 encounter is NOT that easy. Also, raids were kinda a new thing so there was more learning involved.
@quentin98765 Actually vanilla required more gear grinding than any of the expansions. Mostly due to the endless amount of resist gear you needed. This fight for instance. You needed a lot of fire resist for in order to do it.
@quentin98765 you havnt been to firelands yet if you think it requires no concentration these days... ill agree that vanilla raids were much harder but thats because class mechanics back then were no where near as good as they are now, also classes are alot more powerful and have much better and more spells. Raiding in vanilla was hard but part of the reason was finding 40 players that could execute well... Boss fights these days are BY FAR more complex. New ragnaros is a much better fight imo
@quentin98765 I did not play in vanilla but i do agree with the fact that people look at gear more than skill in a player now but the fact is your trying to say as long as you have full tier 12 you can kill any boss which is bullshit that's just my 2 cents.
@quentin98765 What are you talking about? He just stood there clicking his attacks, capping his energy and talking in raid chat while not moving from that single spot for the duration of the fight. As a matter of fact, they obviously weren't even using vent judging from all the raid chat. And this is supposed to be world first? Doubtful.
Try to do any heroic Firelands encounter without vent, clicking spells and standing still. You'll wipe in 10 seconds.
@Mikrobitz I remember back in the BWL and MC days me and the other locks sometimes competed as to how could be the first to pull aggro from the tank - using searing pain - on boss fights.... And even if we did bosses would still go down - you could raid 40 man content with 15-20 retards in the raid and still progress.. This would not be possible today. At least not in heroics
The newbie argument ppl are using here is as stupid as saying that since my dad was a pro amiga programmer he therefore must be better at it then those coming after him...
Like it or not, at lvl 60 the rotations for dps was less complex, you could stack pots, buffs and all sorts of shit, boss fights were a lot less complex and the mechanic of the game was simpler in any way you can possible think of...
@iceanon True, but the game was new and even those "simple" mechanics were something people had never seen before.
Also the fact that you could stack pots, buffs etc. made the game actually a lot more complex. For example I was playing healer trough TBC and learning right cycle for cooldowns and potions for every fight was vital if you wanted to pull good healing. Now its something you never have to even think about, just heal and stay out of fire.
@Mikrobitz That may well be, but to say that the game was somehow "harder" back then is imo an overstatement, the best guilds of today and the ones that are killing unnerfed content are mostly guilds made up of players that have been playing this game for a long time, and know not only their own class but all the others aswell - as many of them have played many of the classes.. Boss mechanics are also much more complex then they used to be..
I really wish it was as easy for me and my guild to kill rag. We struggled for weeks, and even when we killed him the first time almost everyone died. Of course we DID get the revamped rag, so it was much harder than this.
well I agree players were way worse then. BUT almost nobody could kill shit, content was always nerfed after short while because it was too hard for majority.
Look at me I have played wow in vanilla but have not killed any boss in cataclysm, because I am too stupid and ignorant to try it, I can't even kill any boss in HC mode but I still say it is piss easy!
Also, I go to old vanilla videos call the ones playing now "newfags" get a load of thumbs up and look like a true nerd. Hurray!
Sure brings out some memories, to the newer players it was a completely different game back then, if you've never had alts camping outdoor dragons and calling together a raid mid day to get some nature resist gear before AQ, buffing entire raids with a single songflower, saving nefs head for that one special go at c'thun pre nerf or done thaddius with 40 people when servers were at their worst then you cant possibly relate to how the game was. I'm not saying it was harder just different...
the dedication it took to do raids back then was amazing people think 10 and 25 mans are hard try cordinating 40 people perfectly because there was no "new content lets nerf the old content so people can do that casually now" it was all hard all the time no matter what your gear was.
I lol at new idiots that think vanilla looks easy. Not knowing that the the game was new, people were new. They did not know you needed to farm every single piece of resistance item from dungeons and crap. Not knowing you had to farm pots for hours each day to have for a few tries at raiding.
I cleared all content cept firelands since vanilla and nothing is close to as time consuming and hard as 60 raiding was.
Try clearing 4h in 60 naxx, cockblock until you had DN geared tanks.
the problem with ragnaros back in vanilla was to bring up the fire-resistance and still be able to deliver the required dps/hps for his sons. back then a healer had 3-4k hp and mana and a tank 6k hp and ragna was hitting the tank wearing his special fr-gear with 2-3k+ each hit and kicking random players through the air (falling dmg or swimming in lava)
with todays "standards" this encounter looks easy, but you can't compare vanilla with cata as the game turned nearly 180 degrees!
im sorry. i used to play back in vanilla and landed ~server 2nd's through most of the content till late BC when i quit. TBH! on the whole "what was harder content?" debate is fucking BS!
let me say it. Vanilla content was not harder than current raid content. Why? u ask. because if anyone has enough time to stand still and type several lines of chat text into their raidchat or* can just casually click their rotation. <-- then by fact! it clearly does not require a players full ability! fuck off
@Kruucy Harder in terms of harder fights? No maybe not. But raiding back then required a fuckton more then it did after tbc.
Resistance gear, a FUCKTON of pots (hours of farming pots to clear content, and yes all top guilds in the world had to do this), you had to gear before you could move on, something you do NOT need now in 99% of the fights.
Clearing Rag in blues was a feat that will never come again in wow.
If you havent raided since sunwell you have no fucking idea how it is now. Fuck off
@Kruucy true however having to organize and gear up 40 players when a boss drops 1-2 peices of gear is quite difficult. In essense, the content is harder now, but back then the feat of actually getting a group of 40 people together with atleast a few geared tanks was more difficult. Not to mention the severe lack of prep gear before going into these places, there were no crappy heroic epics and you couldent click a button and have a que to get into an instance. Most people were in leveling gear.
@Kruucy technically, getting 40 people together for 4 hours+ every day for a weekt is alot harder then clearing some instance in 3 hours like they do in wotlk+
@Kruucy So true... Every boss so far in Cataclysm I couldn't stop healing to say anything 'cause in that split second someone would be dead, or I'd be standing out of position. :L
Vanila WoW, Was a hard game, toke alota skill, To the nubs, If you played the game you'd say the same thing. Trust me. instead of saying 'Hi ima retard, and i think i know all" Get over it .
@Mikrobitz resistance fights arent hardcore. and if anything less abilities is an argument against. the rogue uses a total of 2 buttons the entire fight. ss and evis.
@donshont They aren't. That's why I said "hardcore" in a sarcasmic way.
Todays WoW is a fucking joke compared to vanilla end-raids (MC not being one of them, yet still not being walk in the park back then) and whole TBC tbh, that's why I was sarcastic.
Fights like original versions of Vashj, Kael'Thas, Illidan, Eredar Twins, M'uru or Kil'jaeden would never happen in todays WoW.
@Mikrobitz or C'thun, Four Horsemen, Loatheb (holy fuck the resource farming this boss required not to mention learning good rotation for bandages, pots etc no matter what class u played), Sapphiron, Kel'Thuzad.
@Mikrobitz yeah it were some cool times back then :) i remember when we first killed Kael in guild and it was such a great feeling :D in Cata/WotLK none of the fights gave me such a feeling, beside maybe Algalon :)
@Mikrobitz I disagree. Vanilla raids were awful for the most part and the game was just dumb and unbalanced.
I believe Freya x3, yogg 1+0, lich king hard mode, chogal hm, ascendant council hard mode, and mimiron hard mode could easily compare to those fights.
@iceanon Did you read what I wrote? Apparently not, exactly a comment I would expect from an ignorant retard who started after the best times of WoW (being after TBC).
No, Rag wasnt complex but it was new. If you counter something NEW, it's never a "faceroll" for the first time. However I mentioned fire res gear which was needed for everyone to survive the fight, since ur newbie I clarify... it means u have to sacrifice other stats for it = performance loss. It was hard to beat enrage timer.
@Mikrobitz Actually I did read it, and yes I was actually there farming fireresist gear and farming gold to pay for overpriced 17 - 20 fr rings.. My point is that even thoug getting there and the insane farming involving some of it (farming mauradon for nr gear - Huhuran meatwall) does not mean that the content was "better" In your memory it might feel a bit more epic in some way... I could go on here, but you are obviously a prick
@iceanon Those are the things that made the game MMO. Do you even remember what it is? (Go play some everquest to refresh your memory). WoW today is dumbed down close to arcade game, feel of MMO has been lost since WotLK.
I could also go on of what made vanilla better than todays WoW (if we ignore how polished everything is today), and especially how good TBC was. Even though I'd like to remember vanilla as the pinnacle of awesomeness, TBC was just simply the golden era of WoW and raiding.
AQ40 & Naxx40 we're places where 90% of todays shitty WoW players could not even kill the first boss (TBC had same type of raids, which makes it also so good expansion).
Also, try to organize a group of 40 fucking people. It was hard and stressfull as fuck, really. Especially after Molten Core days when BWL, AQ40 and Naxx came... I can honestly say BWL with 40 people alone was harder (I think I dont need to say more EPIC!) than most raids since WotLK... Mechanics and difficulty level just went apeshit there, they were something unheard of and made a real challenge for people. especially because there were no retarded PTR testing for the like today. Bugs yeah.
To all you retards saying this looks piss easy. Even though it probably is really a faceroll in todays standards please remember this was the FIRST ever big raid Blizzard ever made, all the mechanics we're new, although simple. Also, when it comes to Raggy you also needed shitload of resistance gear for everyone which is unheard of in todays WoW (shame, it was too "hardcore" for a casual game like its today I guess).
Also every class had like 50% less abilities than they have today.
@Tetros1 yes raiding back then SUCKED. but thats not what vanilla was about. you see pvp was where it was at. that junk was FUN. there were 14 ranks, and the only way you could get pvp gear was completing ranks. but to rank up you had to play ALL DAY every day. and when i say all day i mean playing 15 hours straight waking up and playing 15 hours again. and you could never stop. but if you ever got those ranks you were god. look up lvl 60 pvp videos, of ranks 14's and u'll see what i mean
Rag was absolutely hard when you were killing him in Vanilla. The sheer amount of Greater Fire Protection Potions that guilds had to use when there weren't potting limits, dealing with Sons of Flame when most classes didn't have decent aoe..
It wasn't so much 'complicated' as it was getting 40 quasi-competent people focused enough to do it. Oh, and having enough resto druids to innervate priests...
@nivity You know what's even more annoying? "oldfags" saying new players are shit cause they haven't been playing for close t 7 years. chillax brobeans. people can start playing whenever the fuck they want to, you elitist asshole.
@Dreadlord67 a lot of new players ARE shit. It's not because they're new, though... it's because they don't take the time to figure out wtf they're doing before they start trying to raid, or do heroics. I also know a lot of new players who are some of the best players I know. When you started doesn't determine your skill.
It's the first raid of world of warcraft, 7 years ago. Most people here weren't even old enough back then to play it. So stop comparing this to wtf you are doing now just to show off how awesome you are.
@MCWojtekk I'm pretty sure they did they did. My main is a Rogue i've had since a couple months after WoW was released. I remember because I used to always say to myself, what a useless skill....
I found this video on Paragon's site, and its funny to see how it was done back in the days. I love the druid standing there throwing a HoT/Wrath/dispell every 30 secs or so, ranged dps doing the same :'D But its still a really nice fear! Gj!
@BowtieBear If only this was fully true. While I do agree people don't give enough credit to the work put into vanilla kills, what you said is completely false about current raiding. DBM is a luxury that any top guild does not need. At all. I am in a decently ranked guild, top US 30, and I have raided with and without DBM. I rarely notice a difference. Once you are a decent to amazing player, the addon loses a lot, if not nearly all, of its value.
@xAeis I addmit many top-raiding guilds don't have dbm-modules at start - but they often have the people to implement own modules/addons. I know a handful of top 20 world-ranked guildes that use power auras excessively. So even if they don't use DBM, they use some (self-written) addons to track certain abilities and time-events.
The difference between a pro-player and a good player is the time-input on new encounters and the dedication they put into playstyle and knowledge of their class
@BowtieBear I used to raid in vanilla,.. and there was still teamspeak, so "no vent" isn't true. DBM and unbalanced classes, absolutely true. Took us weeks of raiding just to down Lucifron, but after that, only ones to cause trouble were Garr, Majordomo and of course, Ragnaros. It was hard back then, but compared to todays stuff, you don't need to concentrate as much. The fact is players just expect more these days.
Now THAT looks fun to me. Everything is simple, yet hard! That's how raids should be, now they're complicated (too many addons) and easy >:( Blizz hurry up and make a vanilla server!!
@Fojosmoo Ragnaros wasnt that easy before they tweaked him, plus a guild that ran aq40/naxx had no issues with him but the majority that struggled with bwl sure did in the begining
Looking to recruit someone to Moonrunner-Alliance US server. I will pay for everything including your gear, mounts ( regular flying and cold flying), skills, but not your clasic WoW, BC, or WotLK. Message me back if your intrested! Will make an 80 for every class!
You can't compare the current wow with vanilla. Classes were inbalanced and gear was weird, however bosses were dead simple as well. What did Twin emperor do? 1 puts a blizzard, ranged have to nuke one and melee the other and bugs grow big. To compare that to a fight like Yogg-saron 0 lights or Lich King 25 heroic is a whole different dimension. I'm not saying it is harder now, but just that the comparison is useless. Simple put: Less skill/ balance, easier encounters
I don't have enough energy I don't have enough energy I don't have enough energy I don't have enough energy I don't have enough energy I can't do that yet I don't have enough energy
Ахрененно!
п.с. обожаю этот рейд=))) каждую неделю всеми чарами туда бегаю
Vasilich554 1 week ago
damn son vanilla was so fucking hard!!!
LKxDESIGN 2 months ago
@LKxDESIGN they make it look easy
cjwalsh20RS 1 week ago
Love the weapons you were using, what are/were they?
OneKnight1234 2 months ago
@OneKnight1234 god I dont know how I remember this shit... but just by the Icons on the left side ( his Poisons ) I can tell you he is using Krol Blade and 1 of the Twin UBRS swords. I believe Krol was Main hand only so it must be the offhand sword.
synonix 1 month ago
@synonix Could also be the Machete from Dire Maul icon, yes I'm also haunted by these great memories.
HAHAUJELLY 4 weeks ago
Duh fuck
KniferAssassin 2 months ago
Rogue was apparently Vanillas Arcane Mage, looking at the spells he used =P
UgoNocko 3 months ago
Wow, this looks incredibly hardcore and complicated. I like the add control, void zone handling and most of all your quick tactical decisions in transition phases.
aminatep 3 months ago
People that are new WoW you should be lucky that you didnt play Vanilla having to run 30 mins to get to a dungeon sucked, now you just instant que,. Also it was hard to get epics back then, and usally the enemy was more powerful then you cause all your abilitys sucked, Pallys had 30 second seals early vanilla, and were only really viable as a Healer. BC was the best in raid content compared to all the others.
Americanfootballer 4 months ago
Vanilla came out in 2004 not 2009 dipshits
Comicking45 4 months ago
I dont understand how people want's vanilla back... LOL!
antonolluri 4 months ago
@antonolluri Hey, this is the first Raid.. This is where your awesome game started, but why do you stop here? you think you figured out all that Vanilla wow had just by seeing what is regarded by almost all ex-Vanilla players as the worst raid of all time? I don't think so..
Try and see fights from all the next raids which are Zul'Gurub, Onyxia's Lair, Blackwing Lair, Ruins of Ahn'Qiraj(AQ20), Temple of Ahn'Qiraj(AQ40) and finally Naxxramas.
toxicitzi 4 months ago
@antonolluri i dont think ppl want the actual xpac back as much as they want the feeling it gave. might sounds a bit wierd but really. you had just started your epic "adventure" in an unexplored world n such. it was just awesome ;D i'd personally do anything to be able to go back to the vanilla or tbc times.
tudvemppi 2 months ago
we did this raid in my raid guild i ninja looted all the shit he dropped the guy that wanted the stuff then bought it off me for 7000gold LOL IT WAS SHIT DROP AS WELL cant remember name but it was only a blue
kwfsuperstar 4 months ago
not enough energy, not enough energy, I can't do that yet!
Kiraina 4 months ago
LOL its still not true
Bebhlen 4 months ago
Guys lets be honest vanila wow like game sucks so hard only nostalgia is the thing that we like it so much!
Cataclysm have better quests flying mounts and a easyer lvls and a lot of more raids and others stuff :)
So be honest vanila wow sucks ! and if u played some expansions u will never come back to this trust me!
ByPhantomYuki 5 months ago
@ByPhantomYuki I don't play wow anymore but Cata is horrible. the new LFD system completely fucked up the whole community. I would preffer vanilla over cata any day, but in all honesty TBC was the best.
Guyverhoeven 5 months ago
@ByPhantomYuki TBC was the best, Cata sucks.
Guyverhoeven 5 months ago
ahaha. hard skill - only
TheGeorgyi 5 months ago
soooo boooring...
111Marader 5 months ago 10
If anyone has any doubts on whether or not this is the true world first kill of Rag, sk gaming has all the world firsts pinned on their boards - Ascent having world first kill of Rag included.
And no,classic raids were no more difficult than heroic cata raids. BUT, keep in mind with 40 people in 1 raid, a lot of shit can go wrong. Although the mechanics might look easier, getting 40 ppl through 1 encounter is NOT that easy. Also, raids were kinda a new thing so there was more learning involved.
Dirkasnivs 5 months ago
Sinister Strike, Ever. , Ah.. those were the days :)
zAizMATT 5 months ago
everything is just.. so slow.
acheron55 5 months ago 21
@acheron55 And still.
antonolluri 4 months ago
i like this video because i just watch a rogue stabbing the air.
darking797 6 months ago
Yeesh hope no rogue gear dropped lol
Margoth264 6 months ago
1 epic = most geared
lol
WoodCutKing 6 months ago
"shit guys we are having a hard time with this boss"
"THROW MORE ROGUES AT IT!"
"Good job we downed the boss!"
Vanilla in a nut shell.
exmerion 6 months ago
Vanilla content (instances and raid) was much harder any post-Wrath raid
why? because it wasnt simply "You require this much gear to pass" it actually required careful execution
sure you could do a 40 man raid in blue/green gear, itd be a little more difficult, but very doable
if you do that in anything postwrath, oop, tank got 1 shotted,
tanks well geared? oop he enraged after 2 minutes cuz low DPS
raiding post Wrath is JUST GEAR, fights required no brain or concentration
quentin98765 6 months ago
@quentin98765
post-wrath? You mean after wrath, meh, gear was everything in Wotlk too.
TheHabati 6 months ago
@quentin98765 Actually vanilla required more gear grinding than any of the expansions. Mostly due to the endless amount of resist gear you needed. This fight for instance. You needed a lot of fire resist for in order to do it.
exmerion 6 months ago
@quentin98765 you havnt been to firelands yet if you think it requires no concentration these days... ill agree that vanilla raids were much harder but thats because class mechanics back then were no where near as good as they are now, also classes are alot more powerful and have much better and more spells. Raiding in vanilla was hard but part of the reason was finding 40 players that could execute well... Boss fights these days are BY FAR more complex. New ragnaros is a much better fight imo
jifyum07 6 months ago 2
@quentin98765 I did not play in vanilla but i do agree with the fact that people look at gear more than skill in a player now but the fact is your trying to say as long as you have full tier 12 you can kill any boss which is bullshit that's just my 2 cents.
Qbakaa 6 months ago
@quentin98765 What are you talking about? He just stood there clicking his attacks, capping his energy and talking in raid chat while not moving from that single spot for the duration of the fight. As a matter of fact, they obviously weren't even using vent judging from all the raid chat. And this is supposed to be world first? Doubtful.
Try to do any heroic Firelands encounter without vent, clicking spells and standing still. You'll wipe in 10 seconds.
tmbllama1 5 months ago
This looks SOOOO boring.
Warspartan09 6 months ago
@Warspartan09 Its from 6 years ago..
flare8809 6 months ago
god what was the dps like back when vanilla gear was the only gear...
chermansen00 6 months ago
The only thing hard about vanilla content was getting 40 people together to do the damn things.
Switch72nd 6 months ago
@Mikrobitz I remember back in the BWL and MC days me and the other locks sometimes competed as to how could be the first to pull aggro from the tank - using searing pain - on boss fights.... And even if we did bosses would still go down - you could raid 40 man content with 15-20 retards in the raid and still progress.. This would not be possible today. At least not in heroics
iceanon 6 months ago
@iceanon
it's definitely the other way around bud
Dildar9001 6 months ago
The newbie argument ppl are using here is as stupid as saying that since my dad was a pro amiga programmer he therefore must be better at it then those coming after him...
Like it or not, at lvl 60 the rotations for dps was less complex, you could stack pots, buffs and all sorts of shit, boss fights were a lot less complex and the mechanic of the game was simpler in any way you can possible think of...
Deal with it..
iceanon 6 months ago
@iceanon True, but the game was new and even those "simple" mechanics were something people had never seen before.
Also the fact that you could stack pots, buffs etc. made the game actually a lot more complex. For example I was playing healer trough TBC and learning right cycle for cooldowns and potions for every fight was vital if you wanted to pull good healing. Now its something you never have to even think about, just heal and stay out of fire.
Mikrobitz 6 months ago
@Mikrobitz That may well be, but to say that the game was somehow "harder" back then is imo an overstatement, the best guilds of today and the ones that are killing unnerfed content are mostly guilds made up of players that have been playing this game for a long time, and know not only their own class but all the others aswell - as many of them have played many of the classes.. Boss mechanics are also much more complex then they used to be..
iceanon 6 months ago
I really wish it was as easy for me and my guild to kill rag. We struggled for weeks, and even when we killed him the first time almost everyone died. Of course we DID get the revamped rag, so it was much harder than this.
aegis666420 6 months ago
5:11 "Oh god my penis is feeling funny"
caviarmy 6 months ago 2
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caviarmy 6 months ago
well I agree players were way worse then. BUT almost nobody could kill shit, content was always nerfed after short while because it was too hard for majority.
escobari 6 months ago
Of course a rogue is filming it =P!
Thementals9595 6 months ago
Look at me I have played wow in vanilla but have not killed any boss in cataclysm, because I am too stupid and ignorant to try it, I can't even kill any boss in HC mode but I still say it is piss easy!
Also, I go to old vanilla videos call the ones playing now "newfags" get a load of thumbs up and look like a true nerd. Hurray!
Nudlarful 6 months ago
@TheShagamer and your calling him a wierdo? who sodomizes a dead cat? Epic Hypocrite much??
hornet209 6 months ago
never seen something that unspectacular before xD
psychoVivi 6 months ago
@psychoVivi Well, every class had to only autoattack 90% of the fights not to get aggro, so it's nothing fun. =p
TheHmmster 6 months ago
Because of the noobs this is how future raids will work.
Bob1agis 7 months ago
wayne
dd2ren 7 months ago
To the Nether with the Firelands... LFG MC
axeshredstorm69 7 months ago
Sure brings out some memories, to the newer players it was a completely different game back then, if you've never had alts camping outdoor dragons and calling together a raid mid day to get some nature resist gear before AQ, buffing entire raids with a single songflower, saving nefs head for that one special go at c'thun pre nerf or done thaddius with 40 people when servers were at their worst then you cant possibly relate to how the game was. I'm not saying it was harder just different...
QuiteCute89 7 months ago
Is it just me or is it funny to watch a bunch of characters attacking thin air? lol
illahee24 7 months ago
Like this if you don't have enough energy
BladeLeader 7 months ago
the dedication it took to do raids back then was amazing people think 10 and 25 mans are hard try cordinating 40 people perfectly because there was no "new content lets nerf the old content so people can do that casually now" it was all hard all the time no matter what your gear was.
devilsboy000 7 months ago
@devilsboy000 yeah this looks hard , none of them even took a step...
CODClanBrutal 7 months ago
@devilsboy000 yeah this looks hard , none of them even took a step...
until like the very end. soo hard.
CODClanBrutal 7 months ago
I lol at new idiots that think vanilla looks easy. Not knowing that the the game was new, people were new. They did not know you needed to farm every single piece of resistance item from dungeons and crap. Not knowing you had to farm pots for hours each day to have for a few tries at raiding.
I cleared all content cept firelands since vanilla and nothing is close to as time consuming and hard as 60 raiding was.
Try clearing 4h in 60 naxx, cockblock until you had DN geared tanks.
nivity 7 months ago 3
25th April is my birthday :D
MacoSensei 7 months ago
the problem with ragnaros back in vanilla was to bring up the fire-resistance and still be able to deliver the required dps/hps for his sons. back then a healer had 3-4k hp and mana and a tank 6k hp and ragna was hitting the tank wearing his special fr-gear with 2-3k+ each hit and kicking random players through the air (falling dmg or swimming in lava)
with todays "standards" this encounter looks easy, but you can't compare vanilla with cata as the game turned nearly 180 degrees!
RovoMe 7 months ago
im sorry. i used to play back in vanilla and landed ~server 2nd's through most of the content till late BC when i quit. TBH! on the whole "what was harder content?" debate is fucking BS!
let me say it. Vanilla content was not harder than current raid content. Why? u ask. because if anyone has enough time to stand still and type several lines of chat text into their raidchat or* can just casually click their rotation. <-- then by fact! it clearly does not require a players full ability! fuck off
Kruucy 7 months ago 30
@Kruucy Harder in terms of harder fights? No maybe not. But raiding back then required a fuckton more then it did after tbc.
Resistance gear, a FUCKTON of pots (hours of farming pots to clear content, and yes all top guilds in the world had to do this), you had to gear before you could move on, something you do NOT need now in 99% of the fights.
Clearing Rag in blues was a feat that will never come again in wow.
If you havent raided since sunwell you have no fucking idea how it is now. Fuck off
nivity 7 months ago 2
@Kruucy true however having to organize and gear up 40 players when a boss drops 1-2 peices of gear is quite difficult. In essense, the content is harder now, but back then the feat of actually getting a group of 40 people together with atleast a few geared tanks was more difficult. Not to mention the severe lack of prep gear before going into these places, there were no crappy heroic epics and you couldent click a button and have a que to get into an instance. Most people were in leveling gear.
100089295 6 months ago
@Kruucy technically, getting 40 people together for 4 hours+ every day for a weekt is alot harder then clearing some instance in 3 hours like they do in wotlk+
jjjjorman 5 months ago
@Kruucy LOOOL are u serious? this is the First Endboss and u cry? that was T-1 go find some Naxxramas Classic videos and try this again ;)
Y0G0FU 4 months ago
@Kruucy So true... Every boss so far in Cataclysm I couldn't stop healing to say anything 'cause in that split second someone would be dead, or I'd be standing out of position. :L
dannygmzz 3 months ago
Vanila WoW, Was a hard game, toke alota skill, To the nubs, If you played the game you'd say the same thing. Trust me. instead of saying 'Hi ima retard, and i think i know all" Get over it .
Kandybaby420 7 months ago
I remember this being so much more intense back then...
Syrick 7 months ago
this look really.. hard? lol
zigma37 7 months ago
@zigma37 this was done 6 years ago jackass
goldenstyx 7 months ago
@goldenstyx
offfpfff and? all pppl said that vanilla was really hard, and this look very easy, JACKASS
zigma37 7 months ago
@zigma37 you haven't played it, neither have I, so we aren't supposed to comment on the difficulty of it. now be a good boy and watch the vid.
frestylezz 7 months ago
@zigma37 are you fkin retarded? shit ALWAYS looks very easy on the kill video. If you never played it then stfu
goldenstyx 7 months ago
@goldenstyx As a rogue who raided Ragnaros back in the day, it really was as easy and boring as portrayed in this video.
KJackson4136 6 months ago
I like the part where he clicked his spells.
K0ldness 7 months ago
@Mikrobitz resistance fights arent hardcore. and if anything less abilities is an argument against. the rogue uses a total of 2 buttons the entire fight. ss and evis.
donshont 7 months ago
@donshont They aren't. That's why I said "hardcore" in a sarcasmic way.
Todays WoW is a fucking joke compared to vanilla end-raids (MC not being one of them, yet still not being walk in the park back then) and whole TBC tbh, that's why I was sarcastic.
Fights like original versions of Vashj, Kael'Thas, Illidan, Eredar Twins, M'uru or Kil'jaeden would never happen in todays WoW.
Mikrobitz 7 months ago 2
@Mikrobitz or C'thun, Four Horsemen, Loatheb (holy fuck the resource farming this boss required not to mention learning good rotation for bandages, pots etc no matter what class u played), Sapphiron, Kel'Thuzad.
Mikrobitz 7 months ago
@Mikrobitz yeah it were some cool times back then :) i remember when we first killed Kael in guild and it was such a great feeling :D in Cata/WotLK none of the fights gave me such a feeling, beside maybe Algalon :)
KonohaMsHarunoSakura 7 months ago
@Mikrobitz I disagree. Vanilla raids were awful for the most part and the game was just dumb and unbalanced.
I believe Freya x3, yogg 1+0, lich king hard mode, chogal hm, ascendant council hard mode, and mimiron hard mode could easily compare to those fights.
donshont 7 months ago
paragon brought me here!
kduv889 7 months ago
@Mikrobitz Yeah, the boss fights in MC were really complex.. take Ragnaros for instance.... Kill boss, kill adds back on boss
iceanon 7 months ago
@iceanon Did you read what I wrote? Apparently not, exactly a comment I would expect from an ignorant retard who started after the best times of WoW (being after TBC).
No, Rag wasnt complex but it was new. If you counter something NEW, it's never a "faceroll" for the first time. However I mentioned fire res gear which was needed for everyone to survive the fight, since ur newbie I clarify... it means u have to sacrifice other stats for it = performance loss. It was hard to beat enrage timer.
Mikrobitz 7 months ago
@Mikrobitz Actually I did read it, and yes I was actually there farming fireresist gear and farming gold to pay for overpriced 17 - 20 fr rings.. My point is that even thoug getting there and the insane farming involving some of it (farming mauradon for nr gear - Huhuran meatwall) does not mean that the content was "better" In your memory it might feel a bit more epic in some way... I could go on here, but you are obviously a prick
iceanon 6 months ago
@iceanon Those are the things that made the game MMO. Do you even remember what it is? (Go play some everquest to refresh your memory). WoW today is dumbed down close to arcade game, feel of MMO has been lost since WotLK.
I could also go on of what made vanilla better than todays WoW (if we ignore how polished everything is today), and especially how good TBC was. Even though I'd like to remember vanilla as the pinnacle of awesomeness, TBC was just simply the golden era of WoW and raiding.
Mikrobitz 6 months ago
AQ40 & Naxx40 we're places where 90% of todays shitty WoW players could not even kill the first boss (TBC had same type of raids, which makes it also so good expansion).
Mikrobitz 7 months ago
was that the highest dmg back then... wow its really been a while since i bought the game on launch day. Vanilla!!!
shiftersofwar 7 months ago
Also, try to organize a group of 40 fucking people. It was hard and stressfull as fuck, really. Especially after Molten Core days when BWL, AQ40 and Naxx came... I can honestly say BWL with 40 people alone was harder (I think I dont need to say more EPIC!) than most raids since WotLK... Mechanics and difficulty level just went apeshit there, they were something unheard of and made a real challenge for people. especially because there were no retarded PTR testing for the like today. Bugs yeah.
Mikrobitz 7 months ago
To all you retards saying this looks piss easy. Even though it probably is really a faceroll in todays standards please remember this was the FIRST ever big raid Blizzard ever made, all the mechanics we're new, although simple. Also, when it comes to Raggy you also needed shitload of resistance gear for everyone which is unheard of in todays WoW (shame, it was too "hardcore" for a casual game like its today I guess).
Also every class had like 50% less abilities than they have today.
Mikrobitz 7 months ago
Lets see you get a world first kill with no vent.
Cutix 7 months ago
I never played vanilla wow and everyone always says it was amazing but this looks really boring to me. He uses like 5 spells the whole time.
Tetros1 7 months ago
@Tetros1 yes raiding back then SUCKED. but thats not what vanilla was about. you see pvp was where it was at. that junk was FUN. there were 14 ranks, and the only way you could get pvp gear was completing ranks. but to rank up you had to play ALL DAY every day. and when i say all day i mean playing 15 hours straight waking up and playing 15 hours again. and you could never stop. but if you ever got those ranks you were god. look up lvl 60 pvp videos, of ranks 14's and u'll see what i mean
MrShaglag 7 months ago
Rag was absolutely hard when you were killing him in Vanilla. The sheer amount of Greater Fire Protection Potions that guilds had to use when there weren't potting limits, dealing with Sons of Flame when most classes didn't have decent aoe..
It wasn't so much 'complicated' as it was getting 40 quasi-competent people focused enough to do it. Oh, and having enough resto druids to innervate priests...
Damn innervates, I wanted to be feral :D
Ukraize 7 months ago 2
I remember doing Rag back in the day, sure isn't hard but I was excited as fuck.
sampsalol 7 months ago
kinda miss the day where using a bandaid midfight didn't get you flamed at.
cksboy 7 months ago
We didn't use vent or teamspeak or any voice program. We used vent for the first time raiding I believe in AQ40 when we were doing twin emps.
fluffymoomin 7 months ago
lol looks easy everyone noobs im good rogue didn't even use cloak of shadows!!!!!! :PpPpppPPPpPPpp
Zephs86 7 months ago
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@Zephs86 Cloak of Shadows didn't exist at this point in vanilla :)
hybby 7 months ago
do you really think vanilla fights was fun? its seems not ;/
Malganify 7 months ago
LOL! Retarding fight! Rogue typed 100500 messages! /Facepalm
BoomSneakers 7 months ago
Looks easy as fuck lol
DeeJayTimo 7 months ago
hhm this looks sooo easy :S
hahawassup 7 months ago
This is awesome, the way it should be.
sebbis152 7 months ago 2
Funny to watch newfags saying crap that they don't know anything about.
If you did not play "vanilla" just stfu, you look like a boobnewb.
nivity 7 months ago 37
@nivity sure is summer here
itsyannick 7 months ago
@nivity funny to see summerfags using 4chan terms outside of 4chan to pretend like they belong.
FrostybroTV 7 months ago
@nivity You know what's even more annoying? "oldfags" saying new players are shit cause they haven't been playing for close t 7 years. chillax brobeans. people can start playing whenever the fuck they want to, you elitist asshole.
Dreadlord67 7 months ago
@Dreadlord67 a lot of new players ARE shit. It's not because they're new, though... it's because they don't take the time to figure out wtf they're doing before they start trying to raid, or do heroics. I also know a lot of new players who are some of the best players I know. When you started doesn't determine your skill.
Verixus113 7 months ago
@Verixus113 I KNOW! That's what I was trying to tell nivity.
Dreadlord67 7 months ago
@nivity dont call people newfags on youtube...Just dont
HITTHEROAD19 7 months ago
wheres the nerdscreams
DrunkenShyGuy 7 months ago
It's the first raid of world of warcraft, 7 years ago. Most people here weren't even old enough back then to play it. So stop comparing this to wtf you are doing now just to show off how awesome you are.
creasiee 7 months ago 2
oh god
my penis is feeling funny
flowerapist 7 months ago
didn't use ventrillo :O I didn't play in vanilla, but I feel as though I would be good enough for the #1 guild :P
boydanlaz 7 months ago
wonder why he didnt keybinded feint <_<
acheron55 7 months ago
@acheron55 If I remember correctly Rogues did not have Feint back then.
MCWojtekk 7 months ago
@MCWojtekk I'm pretty sure they did they did. My main is a Rogue i've had since a couple months after WoW was released. I remember because I used to always say to myself, what a useless skill....
C1utch 7 months ago
@MCWojtekk I could be totally wrong tho. I have a bad memory. I couldn't find a website that told me only vanilla skills.
C1utch 7 months ago
I have downed Ragnaros normal. And this looks so easy and retarded, comparing to what we have to do nowadays.
Archijs 7 months ago
I thihnk that warrior is trying to dps...
thingymabob7845 7 months ago
omg did you see that SS...DID YOU SEE IT?! It was SO GOOOD!!! DID YOU SEE IT? DID YOU!?!!?
thingymabob7845 7 months ago
I found this video on Paragon's site, and its funny to see how it was done back in the days. I love the druid standing there throwing a HoT/Wrath/dispell every 30 secs or so, ranged dps doing the same :'D But its still a really nice fear! Gj!
Laredon0 7 months ago
Paragon sent me here!
sahinica 7 months ago
@BowtieBear If only this was fully true. While I do agree people don't give enough credit to the work put into vanilla kills, what you said is completely false about current raiding. DBM is a luxury that any top guild does not need. At all. I am in a decently ranked guild, top US 30, and I have raided with and without DBM. I rarely notice a difference. Once you are a decent to amazing player, the addon loses a lot, if not nearly all, of its value.
xAeis 7 months ago
@xAeis I addmit many top-raiding guilds don't have dbm-modules at start - but they often have the people to implement own modules/addons. I know a handful of top 20 world-ranked guildes that use power auras excessively. So even if they don't use DBM, they use some (self-written) addons to track certain abilities and time-events.
The difference between a pro-player and a good player is the time-input on new encounters and the dedication they put into playstyle and knowledge of their class
RovoMe 7 months ago
I was on Rodcet Nife with these bad asses... true original gees!
ZykoMike 7 months ago
@BowtieBear I used to raid in vanilla,.. and there was still teamspeak, so "no vent" isn't true. DBM and unbalanced classes, absolutely true. Took us weeks of raiding just to down Lucifron, but after that, only ones to cause trouble were Garr, Majordomo and of course, Ragnaros. It was hard back then, but compared to todays stuff, you don't need to concentrate as much. The fact is players just expect more these days.
sariusmonk 7 months ago
This seems easy you are just standing there attacking....
karlee555 7 months ago
Also, look at how few buffs he has - MOTW Fort elixir of the mongoose strength scroll & battle shout
compare that to all the buffs you get today, including flasks and passive auras!
rwarzor 7 months ago
You were actually that bad in 2005 that you spent half the fight just autoswinging? x)))))))))))))))))
Smitch123 7 months ago
wow, using BoAs on a boss fight? tsk tsk tsk...
ohnonotme1234 7 months ago
@ohnonotme1234 you're so retarded it's not even funny
iUnitedpk 7 months ago
Paragon brought me here.
TheDwardov 7 months ago 343
shit looks boring, now u need a good strategy to attack bosses. never played vanilla but the pvp looks better than it does now
socboy112395 7 months ago
what dropped?
MrWaeseL 7 months ago
Thumbs up if you miss vanilla WoW and would play it if they rereleased it.
chrisroor 7 months ago
I DONT HAVE ENOUGH
ENERGY
ekanhaxxel2 7 months ago
Vanilla was a race to get the best gear. SO basically it was RNG and trying to coordinate 40 people.
Max1234qwert 7 months ago
VANILLA WAS SO HARD
TheZidden 7 months ago
lol at this kill. world first and they look like they dont know what theyre doing. chatting during fight ?? srsly ?
Bournesax 7 months ago
Ahhh man memories. What I wouldn't give to be able to experience the times of 2005-2007 once more.
hippaul 7 months ago
dude, is it possible you could re-opload this with better quality? D:
krusokat 7 months ago
Now THAT looks fun to me. Everything is simple, yet hard! That's how raids should be, now they're complicated (too many addons) and easy >:( Blizz hurry up and make a vanilla server!!
TheModernExplorer 7 months ago
@TheModernExplorer How is it hard? If you thought Ragnaros was hard you didn't play back then.
Fojosmoo 7 months ago
@Fojosmoo Ragnaros wasnt that easy before they tweaked him, plus a guild that ran aq40/naxx had no issues with him but the majority that struggled with bwl sure did in the begining
sunburningstare 7 months ago
This looks really hard :o
FredMaHead 7 months ago
I like how you can literally /afk and type mid boss fight...oh old wow lol
Yankefanatic317 7 months ago
ragnaros is 4 times weeker then it was due to u can kill him with 10 man only when previously u needed 40!
Fikuzi 7 months ago
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noahguy6921 7 months ago
i solo this shit now O_O
it looks easy and boring but thats cause there were almost no OH SHIT OH SHIT OH SHIT RUN!!!!!!! Mechanics to fights instead the gear was just crap
lekoro1 7 months ago
You can't compare the current wow with vanilla. Classes were inbalanced and gear was weird, however bosses were dead simple as well. What did Twin emperor do? 1 puts a blizzard, ranged have to nuke one and melee the other and bugs grow big. To compare that to a fight like Yogg-saron 0 lights or Lich King 25 heroic is a whole different dimension. I'm not saying it is harder now, but just that the comparison is useless. Simple put: Less skill/ balance, easier encounters
More skill/balance,reverse
Cassyboy2 8 months ago
so zoomed in rofl.
HackDaMainframe 8 months ago
Fuckin' epic.
Venearify 8 months ago
vanilla was the shit.
gobmg53 8 months ago
Wow this looks lame ;o
LilleSkuttN 9 months ago
Good video and great job. Ragnaros was quite a pain in the ass to defeat. I miss these old raids.
Khaosreign 9 months ago
i thought for the horde killed him world first. HMMMMM
NerrZz 10 months ago
I don't have enough energy I don't have enough energy I don't have enough energy I don't have enough energy I don't have enough energy I can't do that yet I don't have enough energy
Thank God for disabling error speech nowadays
UserNamesAreForNoobs 10 months ago 2
WoW was never hard...
Only tedious
hahaureadmyname 10 months ago 2
How I miss these times..
DaveLevis 11 months ago
Good times..
tapio111 11 months ago
NEED MOAR BLIZZARDS
Fable2Pl8r 1 year ago
WoW in its purest, most fun form
bigdog7865 1 year ago 2
5:20 looks like you typed out "my penis is feeling funny"
flopdos 1 year ago 27