I find it interesting that they are referencing the American Constitution with another nation’s flag behind them (nothing against Canada). These men are traitors and cowards, because they VOLUNTARILY took an oath to obey the President. It is the same oath I took when I enlisted. Yea war sucked, but I knew that could be a part of joining the military. If you’re going to criticize my nation, have the balls to do it on American soil.
FYI: There ARE men who are willing to go in your place & under your name. Many of us have tried desperately & every avenue to go to Afghanistan &/or Iraq, yet our country only sends a very small number of men & do not require more. We are willing to go under your name & flag, serve with honor & integrity. We are not haters, murderers or thrill seakers, just want to be involved & help in something bigger than ourselves. We hold NO disrespect for those who do not wish to fight. Can we asist?
Every single person in the U.S army must have the mentality of Brittany Spears " Umm, I'm too dumb to think sooo, um, we just do what the president says....ya"
Kill civilians, sure thing Mr. Boss man. Yeee haw, not thinking sure is fun huh boy?
taxation is theft, i dont care if your just following orders YOU chose to accept the job of aggresing against your fellow man, even the lowly Pencil pusher at the irs is operating on stolen money,
this applys to all police, DEA or NSA agent, every single pencil pushing buerocrat at the DMV, or city employee, garbage collector and every government office worker...quit your job unless you think its okay to steal and murder... if not then i consider you an enemy of liberty who deserves to be shot.
You dont know Respect or Honor. You are a complaining bitterly bc youve never worked for anything. Dissenters are know more honorable or respectful for the REAL MEN that wear the uniform.
Im not AntiAmerican, Im Married to one, My mother was one, In Canada i had alot of American friends, The ones we still know and stay in Contact with are for Ron Paul, for Obvious reasons, America is under Ziocon Rule, It has been slowely happening, What kicked off the take over was when JFK was Murdered, Gulf of Tonkin, Liers , 911 Binladin did it, More Lies, Binladins dead has been for a while, Proof your media lies.
Lies that led to the Iraq war, Lies that almost had us in Iran last year,
I knew Marines back in the late 60zz , they were whole familys that moved to canada, these were tough mothers who could kick your ass 10 ways to sunday, but they were more inlightened then those who did the boot camps and later deserted to canada, Americans are never fooled for long, But this time the treason trials will go to the highest office of the country and internatational warrants, Trust in America to get America back,
I loved how the FIRST thing he said was, "DONT DESTROY THE OIL WELLS, Uhhhh, The U.s. oil compa- err.. It belongs to the Iraqi ppl *COUGH* for us to take *COUGH*"
They can't tell their grievances in military court,who follows the UCMJ and not the Constitution.Every soldier has the right to NOT obey unlawful orders.
They may get shot in the back by their fellows,courtmartialled or imprisoned ,but they have that right.
Look at "staff sergeant" Michael Hensley. He is killing innocent Iraqis all the time, leaving fake "evidence" to make them look armed and dangerous. Yet he just walks. Your words mean nothing.
May Dennis Kucinich succeed at putting the bush regime in jail for all of the war crimes that they have commited, including 9-11.
Academy Award for Best Actor potraying a Statesman. The WWII Generation is seeing the light. Blue-collar rednecks are seeing the light. Patriotic Americans are appalled by the actions of a Republican controlled Congress. Old women with Broadband downloads are seeing the light. Only pigs who profit from the dogs of war remain committed. And no, we will not be fighting Al-Queda within the borders of Amerika. Unless Congress decides it's a way of boosting Wall Street war earnings.
Try to pay atention: Are you standing for your country or for Bush? They are diferent things. Dictator's followers usually say: "my country" to justify their crimes. If you are standing stand for your country stand for what is good for your people not for some Bush's friends
bertrowski, are you a Haliburton executive or do you just have a family member that's one? Honestly, what does Bush have to do to convince you and the remaining 26% that he sucks?
"Do not destroy oil wells, a source of wealth that belongs to the Iraqi people". He is unbelieveable man, when is somebody going to do the world a favour and assasinate him
I believe that assasinating him would the worst possible thing that could happen. It would be used to remove every freedom we have left. Also, George Bush is not the problem, just an easily replacable puppet. The only weapon "the people" really have is our labor and money. Bush should be legally subjected to the punishment for treason. Allowing him to be an example to other puppets would do great harm to the elitist "system" we currently live within.
lol, i am not planning to do it man. If the police hunted down all the people who made inflammatory comments on you tube they would have a job on their hands. Only yesterday some guy sent me a message saying he was going to be carrying out a huge terrorist attack on the UK very soon when I asked how he knew allah was real!
He is wrong for being a deserter. He gets paid to be a soldier. It's his JOB. They pay him.When they tell him to actually go out and do his job he runs to Canada? What a pussy fag is using the gob't for money, and runs away when they tell him to do his job. U.S in Iraq doesn't even compare to the Nazis. We don't have concentration camps killing Muslims. You guys need to get your facts straight.
So you're saying a Soldier gives up his rights and values? Hmm.. Thinking about the My Lai massacre.. Hmm. Well I guess it's ok to kill children as long as it is an order.
I think a valuable mp3 to listen to is of an Israeli Air Force Captain who along with 26 others refused to obey orders, dropping bombs on highly dense civilian targets. This is important, and I hope many follow suit. If all military on earth would not obey wicked orders from the Criminal, Global Elite, the International Bankers would find thier wars of Empire frustrated. Look at the July 18 entry: http://www.awakeandarise.org/Barbara.htm
It's about time service people start using their brains and finding out how they've been lied to about "defending their country". It is sick how they are used and then discarded. Try to watch "Sir, No Sir!" a documentary on how it was the TROOPS that started the Vietnam ant-war movement. Thank you.
oh so now george washington is a terrorist. I can see how comparing what he did to idiots running down the street blowing themselves and cicvilians up in the name of allah is the same. Funny thing insurgents never bothered iraq before saddams regime fell to "infadels". Pretty sure its not OCCUPATION but more like oppression
LOL. I hope the troops you claim to command as as fucking stupid as you are otherwise... Well, I'm concerned for you Mordrid; there was apparently a good deal of fragging going on in Nam ... It's OK to have been wrong in the past... It's OK to learn and to question those who assume complete authority.. you need to "hear" more and speak less.
i researched david cline on the net 3 purple hearts bronze star and a grunt to boot.Very respectable. However im entitled to my opinion and ill be damned if im gonna let someone take that away from me im too damn young and done too damn much for this country to have to take that kind of bullshit.
Watch this watch that i heard this about the military i heard that about the military. Until you spout out your rank and unit i dont want to hear your propaganda on military life. These guys using their "brains" are more than likely using their brains for an excuse not to go. Its not that they really care about whats going on they just dont want to go.
I know you've seen this one > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKSvjGG98CU Because you commented on it. It features David Cline ... who is also in Sir No Sir. Maybe you're offended by people who use their brains because you don't have one. That's OK... A rational person with no brain could get far in life just by realizing that they had no brain and deffering important decisions to those who DO have a brain... like David Cline.
you're so full of shit. ever heard of UCMJ? not exactly smart for current military members to 'spout' rank and unit on the net along with views that are ultimately not in line with the 'mission'. where's your rank and unit?
Again i say you all keep saying your stuff ill eat it up and preach to the guys under me that way when we get in a fight that really is defending our country from say china or korea they can say sir no sir i can choose which wars i fight
Maybe the guy left the marines because he knew what they were doing is wrong? Every1 knows America attacked Iraq for their oil, and now Bush is saying Israel is right to defend themselves by bombing Lebanon which i think is complete bullshit
its people like you that is the reason terrorist groups take hostages and cut their heads off. Because they know they can and people like you wont fight back. Maybe we should just bake some cookies and have mothers of amreica give it to the terrorist and all our problems will go away.
Please take an hour or two and do a little research into why there are "terrorists" in Iraq and now Lebanon. It's called OCCUPATION and under the definition you and Bush subscribe to, George Washington was also a terrorist.
well your not american thank God and if they left for canada ole boy dont need to be claiming hes a marine i take offense to that. If they want to leave america then dont talk shit about it out of sight out of mind seems like people trying to get attention to me
that fag isnt marine to me a real marine would not turn their back on each other. And why are they talking about America this constitution that with a canadian flag flying in the background??
if a 'real' marine is someone who wouldn't turn his back on fighting a war for chickenhawks while killing 'hodgies' indiscriminately, then yeah, you're right, he's not a marine...he's a man.
ill put 50 bucks that he is too chickenshit and he is using this as his excuse not to go over. And the spelling is "haji" and oh yeah next war after this one ill remember your comments and tell my commanders that im not fighting cause thrashaero said i could pick and choose the wars i fight. God help america and the mentality of its people stand the fuck by because america will fall because of this excuse ridden society.
maybe chickenshit to you to refuse to participate in an illegal war...others with brains call it a conscience. you pick the wars you fight by joining dumbass. unlike your bloodthirsty and brainwashed self, a lot join because of the predatory recruiters that trick them into thinking it's all fun and games and gets them out of the ghetto...when in reality they're being used for cannon fodder. if you like it so much go fill a spot someone else doesn't want once they realized they got fucked.
Fucking people like you make me sick to my stomach. You sit here and act tough over a comp but you would be to pussy to say these things to a real soldier to his face. You talk as is you know the military. You dont know shit. You expect everything and dont want to give anything back to this country that has given you a good life. You dont deserve to be in the same room as a soldier because they are real men unlike you. If you hate america, its government, and its soldiers than get the fuck out.
sorry to burst your bubble but I am in the executive branch where Shrub is CEO. the UCMJ forbids me to be specific. My coworkers have little objection to my views, in fact they often express theirs before I do. If your version of a real soldier is lining up and kissing ass regardless, you can take that garbage and shove it because it has zero to do with defending this country's freedom and constitution.
I do know what the real version of a soldier is because i am one. I was not tricked in to join i volunteered just like all of those traitors in the vid. I am doing my part to defend this country and the constitution that i beleive in fully. What do you beyond telling me an hundereds of thousands of other guys that we are "brainwashed and blood thirsty"?
OH you are one? Well what exactly do you consider any of this Iraq war and what you've done in it having anything to do with defending this country and the constitution?
Brainwashed and bloodthirsty are the categories of thought applied to people who actually think this war is worth a shit. You either have not a clue about the big picture or you're just happy to go out and play with guns and kill some foreigners.
God you really dont have much of a clue do do you? You really do sound like some paper pusher from the DD or wherever you work. Ive been to Iraq once so far back in 05 and now im in the reserves so i dont know yet if im going back but let me tell you why i was defending my country nulike you. In my whole experience there we never really engaged iraqi insurgets. We were always fighting forgein terrorists though. Syrians, jordanians, chechens, algerians, saudis, egyptians most of them al qaeda.
These people are the same people who want to attack america. Better it in iraq than in the US. If we stay in iraq it will benefit us in the long run with dealing with Iran. If we leave there will be civil war and a new country call alqaedastan basically. Then we will have to go back in 10 yrs again.
unlike me? again...how exactly is fighting in this POS war have anything to do with defending this country? you keep dodging the question. I know a few people who've done REAL combat (not just be there) who have a much more fervent angst against this war and administration than anybody else I know. The only reason you believe so much in your duty being anything close to 'defending' this country in this war is that you'd have nothing else to be proud of.
I have told you how i have defended my country faggot. Im 21 yrs old and im extremely proud of what i have done in that time. What have you done beyond hate soldiers who dont agree with you? I have not seen real combat? I will not even respond your dumbass on this because you can never understand combat. You try living in al anbar for 13 months.
And yeah i to know guys who dont like the war but they still went unlike these traitors in the vid. You cant pick and choose the wars you fight if you volunteer. Your a civie, dont know what you are talking about. You wont even say who you work for in the govt, if you really do.
you conflate fighting in Iraq with defending this country. How exactly do you connect one with the other? Anyway, I'm saying you're only so proud of it because it would greatly inconvenience you to find it's all garbage.. Real people can drop their prides when they see what's wrong.
Dont give me this Uniform Code of Military Justice shit. You can tell me the department you work for. Im not asking your name and MOS. I told you before idiot that iraq is the war on terrorism now. Better that it be fought there than getting attacked here in the states killing innocents.
If we leave iraq before its done with then it will be twenty times worse than afghanistan ever was. Do you understand that? Your a wannabe policy maker right? Since you asked me i'll ask you. What have you done to defend this country?
not much by being in the military, I can tell you that. just because you fight a bunch of provacateured angry people in a bullshit war doesn't make you any more of a defender than me. Nobody can get around that leaving Iraq now is stupid. It was the whole debacle of invading it over false bullshit in the first place. They got their foot in the door, and that's all they needed. Leave? They knew nobody could tell them that. all they needed was a big enough lie to get in there.
Sure bud. I thought it was about WMD. I mean that's what was paraded repeatedly. It's what press secretary Ari Fleischer said. Not about this bullshit about getting them to come out of the woodwork. The only reason they're in Iraq is because it's been destabilized. Saddam had nothing to do with Al-CIAda remember? or do you still believe he did?
Alright man here we go again. I do not think that there was a link with al qaeda and saddam. I do know that the terrorists are there now. That is reality. Stop playing the whole "we were misled bullshit" and deal with the now. I have been there have you? I have seen so many people who want this to work there only to be killed by other muslims NOT americans. It is a very different perspective when you live around these people.
You would not know that though...you still wont even answer the simplest of questions that were in my last post. Stop playing your little propaganda bullshit and answer my questions. You have given me nothing to believe you work for the government in some way. Personally you just sound like some commie or anarchist living out of your moms basement.
aaaahahahahaha! commie or anarchist! always in the vernacular of some ultra-rightwing nut. dude I'm not telling you shit, you're not worth proving it to. besides this is getting fucking ridiculous. The original issue was that I'm calling Rumsfeld a liar. He lied. The whole administration lied. That's a fact. Everyone knows it. Except the minority of people still brainwashed and in denial...probably not much different than those Jesus Camp kids literally worshipping his picture.
oh so now you only care about what's going on after the damage is done, not to what started it? Defending the military is not to be conflated with defending the nation. You know, it would help if we didn't have people actually from our governments sponsoring the terrorism itself. Ever heard of the SAS guys arrested in Basra for posing as terrorists?
Alright your obviously lying to me at this point. You answer a single question i ask you. You avoid all of them. You dont have anything to do with the govt. Your just a fucking fake who hates america. Im not gonna repond to your propoganda anymore. Later faggot
and what clue do you have about the big picture? mr UCMJ forbids me to tell my job" Well then i will tell. Hey everyone meet Thrashaero he flips burgers!
mordrid84, that man IS a marine. He has the values of a US marine, honor, courage, and committment. He had the honor to know his actions were wrong, he had the courage to admit it, and he has the commitment to ending this war of lies.
what lies? you think he has uncovered any lies? do you think he knows some kind of truth that evades the rest of us? Are we in iraq because of a bunch of BS? maybe. but then again maybe we fought WW2 under the cover of conspiracy.
maybe we did! ever look into it? How about WWI for that matter. We KNOW Vietnam was total utter bullshit.
Wars in general are bullshit.
That is not to say Nazis, Communists, Terrorists, etc are good. It is to say that as problems, they become useful to those who want to make a buck and spread power, making the problem 10x worse. Hell we're even using Jundullah now to attack Iran with. They're an Al-Qaeda organization. That shows you how bullshit this 'war on terror' is.
Where is the democratic leadership on this issue? Nowhere just like on everything else when it comes to the neocon agenda! Wake up people! Your government is out to lunch and treading dangerous waters.
I find it interesting that they are referencing the American Constitution with another nation’s flag behind them (nothing against Canada). These men are traitors and cowards, because they VOLUNTARILY took an oath to obey the President. It is the same oath I took when I enlisted. Yea war sucked, but I knew that could be a part of joining the military. If you’re going to criticize my nation, have the balls to do it on American soil.
Jmbk7278 1 year ago
He doesn't need a defence he pardoned himself and is above the law. We are screwed.
mk7mk77 1 year ago
FYI: There ARE men who are willing to go in your place & under your name. Many of us have tried desperately & every avenue to go to Afghanistan &/or Iraq, yet our country only sends a very small number of men & do not require more. We are willing to go under your name & flag, serve with honor & integrity. We are not haters, murderers or thrill seakers, just want to be involved & help in something bigger than ourselves. We hold NO disrespect for those who do not wish to fight. Can we asist?
vpbubbies 1 year ago
"A source of wealth, that belongs, to haliburt- uhh, i mean the iraqi people."
RainbowManification 1 year ago
Every single person in the U.S army must have the mentality of Brittany Spears " Umm, I'm too dumb to think sooo, um, we just do what the president says....ya"
Kill civilians, sure thing Mr. Boss man. Yeee haw, not thinking sure is fun huh boy?
UnhappySquancho 1 year ago
taxation is theft, i dont care if your just following orders YOU chose to accept the job of aggresing against your fellow man, even the lowly Pencil pusher at the irs is operating on stolen money,
this applys to all police, DEA or NSA agent, every single pencil pushing buerocrat at the DMV, or city employee, garbage collector and every government office worker...quit your job unless you think its okay to steal and murder... if not then i consider you an enemy of liberty who deserves to be shot.
wildabeast11235 2 years ago
cowards should be hunted down and punished
oakmeal53 2 years ago
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nancy boys runnin to canada
flecktarnjoe 3 years ago
A nancy boy would continue to fight for a government he was too cowardly to disagree with.
ThePsychoReturns 3 years ago 5
A nancy boy would continue to wave his dick in the air while other people staple glittered cut outs of Sean Desman to their balls.
GodDontDoThis 2 years ago
Uhh...
Yeah.
ThePsychoReturns 2 years ago
respect for these guys, they proved they are really men of honor, unlike the crooks that
have occupied the white house...
truthspeaker2000 3 years ago 5
You dont know Respect or Honor. You are a complaining bitterly bc youve never worked for anything. Dissenters are know more honorable or respectful for the REAL MEN that wear the uniform.
innyopti 2 years ago
chicken hawk.....
missonaryoffaith 2 years ago
This video would have been better if an IED went off in the background and killing this dumb fuck.
FABSTERFAB 3 years ago
NO! LET SHIT LIKE ThIS STOP! HATE THIS GUY!
MadisonSkeet 3 years ago
ha ha
FluxRostrum 3 years ago
Im not AntiAmerican, Im Married to one, My mother was one, In Canada i had alot of American friends, The ones we still know and stay in Contact with are for Ron Paul, for Obvious reasons, America is under Ziocon Rule, It has been slowely happening, What kicked off the take over was when JFK was Murdered, Gulf of Tonkin, Liers , 911 Binladin did it, More Lies, Binladins dead has been for a while, Proof your media lies.
Lies that led to the Iraq war, Lies that almost had us in Iran last year,
cycimian 3 years ago 4
I knew Marines back in the late 60zz , they were whole familys that moved to canada, these were tough mothers who could kick your ass 10 ways to sunday, but they were more inlightened then those who did the boot camps and later deserted to canada, Americans are never fooled for long, But this time the treason trials will go to the highest office of the country and internatational warrants, Trust in America to get America back,
cycimian 3 years ago 2
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every one of you anti American pigs make me sick, i seriously hope your next shit is covered with shards of glass mother fuckers.
hamm3rofg0ds 4 years ago
Fascist Pig!
Migeru87 4 years ago 2
People need to open there eyes to whats going on and resist it. Its time for the 2nd American Revolution.
All power to the people!
Migeru87 4 years ago 9
I loved how the FIRST thing he said was, "DONT DESTROY THE OIL WELLS, Uhhhh, The U.s. oil compa- err.. It belongs to the Iraqi ppl *COUGH* for us to take *COUGH*"
BrettJRipley 4 years ago 4
They can't tell their grievances in military court,who follows the UCMJ and not the Constitution.Every soldier has the right to NOT obey unlawful orders.
They may get shot in the back by their fellows,courtmartialled or imprisoned ,but they have that right.
Proud daughter &wife of Vets.
AuroraKismet 4 years ago
Being in the Air Force, I can't Wait til you are tried for Desertion. There are better ways to tell of your grievances than here.
eagsc7 4 years ago
Watch "The Assassination of JFK, Jr." on YouTube. Did they murder him? Watch the film and decide.
patriotagainstempire 4 years ago
Actually the great film "The Assassination of JFK, Jr." is on Google Video.
patriotagainstempire 4 years ago 4
Look at "staff sergeant" Michael Hensley. He is killing innocent Iraqis all the time, leaving fake "evidence" to make them look armed and dangerous. Yet he just walks. Your words mean nothing.
May Dennis Kucinich succeed at putting the bush regime in jail for all of the war crimes that they have commited, including 9-11.
Pamela2832 4 years ago 8
War criminals will be prosecuted? I've been praying for 4 years that you will be.
weebit22 4 years ago 3
Academy Award for Best Actor potraying a Statesman. The WWII Generation is seeing the light. Blue-collar rednecks are seeing the light. Patriotic Americans are appalled by the actions of a Republican controlled Congress. Old women with Broadband downloads are seeing the light. Only pigs who profit from the dogs of war remain committed. And no, we will not be fighting Al-Queda within the borders of Amerika. Unless Congress decides it's a way of boosting Wall Street war earnings.
robertojosedelarosa 4 years ago
yea bro, i'm a facist pig because i'm loyal to this country. whatever you say
bertrowski7 4 years ago
Try to pay atention: Are you standing for your country or for Bush? They are diferent things. Dictator's followers usually say: "my country" to justify their crimes. If you are standing stand for your country stand for what is good for your people not for some Bush's friends
thorres 4 years ago
go bills!
Snyder33Jon4 4 years ago
when are they going to get around to punishing bush
tronchb 4 years ago
whose "they"?
FluxRostrum 4 years ago
the 50+% of people/congress who don't support the facists
tronchb 4 years ago
never, motherfucker, Bush is hero. Fuck all you bitch ass, cowardly anti war pussies.
bertrowski7 4 years ago
you,facist pig you
tronchb 4 years ago
bertrowski, are you a Haliburton executive or do you just have a family member that's one? Honestly, what does Bush have to do to convince you and the remaining 26% that he sucks?
Scotty7617 4 years ago
GOD BLESS YOU BRO!
iamshaman2000 4 years ago
Calm down guys, don't blame Bush... He is just following orders.
rhesus2108 5 years ago
great post, great music for it!!
duffy006 5 years ago
sounds like the blind leading the blind to me
sharay18 5 years ago
LOL Darrell Anderson just returned to face his punishment... Hanged?! they can't afford any more bad publicity... no they slapped him on the wrist.
and has anybody told you you're an ignorant fuck today? consider yourself told.
FluxRostrum 5 years ago
check the more info link on this video for a link to a video of Darrell turning himself in.
FluxRostrum 5 years ago
guess that means he cant use "i was just following orders" as an exuse for his wrong in the world.he is a loser
theamberleaf 5 years ago
good, but pointless.
olllj 5 years ago
WAr crimes will be prosecuted? Ok Bush, Rumsfeld and co... time to face the music... no. ok!
petertango 5 years ago
excellent we need more !
enquire422 5 years ago
In the story of the tower of babel, the builders all spoke one language.
When it was struck down by God, the builders were scattered over the earth, and God forced them to speak different languages.
The Americans cannot hear each other anymore.
Each is in love with his own right to speak freely.
None remembers that it is also his right to listen.
May God have mercy on all our souls.
aliasmax23 5 years ago
"Do not destroy oil wells, a source of wealth that belongs to the Iraqi people". He is unbelieveable man, when is somebody going to do the world a favour and assasinate him
EduardoHampino 5 years ago
for the record...
I believe that assasinating him would the worst possible thing that could happen. It would be used to remove every freedom we have left. Also, George Bush is not the problem, just an easily replacable puppet. The only weapon "the people" really have is our labor and money. Bush should be legally subjected to the punishment for treason. Allowing him to be an example to other puppets would do great harm to the elitist "system" we currently live within.
FluxRostrum 5 years ago
er... you should definately be careful about saying that in a public forum.
I'm pretty sure that's treason, punishable by death.
I could be wrong...
aliasmax23 5 years ago
lol, i am not planning to do it man. If the police hunted down all the people who made inflammatory comments on you tube they would have a job on their hands. Only yesterday some guy sent me a message saying he was going to be carrying out a huge terrorist attack on the UK very soon when I asked how he knew allah was real!
EduardoHampino 5 years ago
He is wrong for being a deserter. He gets paid to be a soldier. It's his JOB. They pay him.When they tell him to actually go out and do his job he runs to Canada? What a pussy fag is using the gob't for money, and runs away when they tell him to do his job. U.S in Iraq doesn't even compare to the Nazis. We don't have concentration camps killing Muslims. You guys need to get your facts straight.
Dylanischillin 5 years ago
So you're saying a Soldier gives up his rights and values? Hmm.. Thinking about the My Lai massacre.. Hmm. Well I guess it's ok to kill children as long as it is an order.
slackdave 5 years ago
everything in this statement is wrong.
supaballz88 5 years ago
So if we did free Iraq from an evil dictator, who will free US ?
Allenmcp 5 years ago
I think a valuable mp3 to listen to is of an Israeli Air Force Captain who along with 26 others refused to obey orders, dropping bombs on highly dense civilian targets. This is important, and I hope many follow suit. If all military on earth would not obey wicked orders from the Criminal, Global Elite, the International Bankers would find thier wars of Empire frustrated. Look at the July 18 entry: http://www.awakeandarise.org/Barbara.htm
edmond4 5 years ago
point well takin abnorm
mordrid84 5 years ago
It's about time service people start using their brains and finding out how they've been lied to about "defending their country". It is sick how they are used and then discarded. Try to watch "Sir, No Sir!" a documentary on how it was the TROOPS that started the Vietnam ant-war movement. Thank you.
sdforpeace 5 years ago
oh so now george washington is a terrorist. I can see how comparing what he did to idiots running down the street blowing themselves and cicvilians up in the name of allah is the same. Funny thing insurgents never bothered iraq before saddams regime fell to "infadels". Pretty sure its not OCCUPATION but more like oppression
mordrid84 5 years ago
LOL. I hope the troops you claim to command as as fucking stupid as you are otherwise... Well, I'm concerned for you Mordrid; there was apparently a good deal of fragging going on in Nam ... It's OK to have been wrong in the past... It's OK to learn and to question those who assume complete authority.. you need to "hear" more and speak less.
FluxRostrum 5 years ago
i researched david cline on the net 3 purple hearts bronze star and a grunt to boot.Very respectable. However im entitled to my opinion and ill be damned if im gonna let someone take that away from me im too damn young and done too damn much for this country to have to take that kind of bullshit.
mordrid84 5 years ago
Watch this watch that i heard this about the military i heard that about the military. Until you spout out your rank and unit i dont want to hear your propaganda on military life. These guys using their "brains" are more than likely using their brains for an excuse not to go. Its not that they really care about whats going on they just dont want to go.
mordrid84 5 years ago
I know you've seen this one > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKSvjGG98CU Because you commented on it. It features David Cline ... who is also in Sir No Sir. Maybe you're offended by people who use their brains because you don't have one. That's OK... A rational person with no brain could get far in life just by realizing that they had no brain and deffering important decisions to those who DO have a brain... like David Cline.
FluxRostrum 5 years ago
you're so full of shit. ever heard of UCMJ? not exactly smart for current military members to 'spout' rank and unit on the net along with views that are ultimately not in line with the 'mission'. where's your rank and unit?
Thrashaero 5 years ago
Again i say you all keep saying your stuff ill eat it up and preach to the guys under me that way when we get in a fight that really is defending our country from say china or korea they can say sir no sir i can choose which wars i fight
mordrid84 5 years ago
Maybe the guy left the marines because he knew what they were doing is wrong? Every1 knows America attacked Iraq for their oil, and now Bush is saying Israel is right to defend themselves by bombing Lebanon which i think is complete bullshit
Qasmi 5 years ago
its people like you that is the reason terrorist groups take hostages and cut their heads off. Because they know they can and people like you wont fight back. Maybe we should just bake some cookies and have mothers of amreica give it to the terrorist and all our problems will go away.
mordrid84 5 years ago
Please take an hour or two and do a little research into why there are "terrorists" in Iraq and now Lebanon. It's called OCCUPATION and under the definition you and Bush subscribe to, George Washington was also a terrorist.
sdforpeace 5 years ago
erm... because they left for canada? Maybe? (and guess what, if I where american, Id leave for Canada too...)
PeterD555 5 years ago
well your not american thank God and if they left for canada ole boy dont need to be claiming hes a marine i take offense to that. If they want to leave america then dont talk shit about it out of sight out of mind seems like people trying to get attention to me
mordrid84 5 years ago
that fag isnt marine to me a real marine would not turn their back on each other. And why are they talking about America this constitution that with a canadian flag flying in the background??
mordrid84 5 years ago
Here's why
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKSvjGG98CU
FluxRostrum 5 years ago
if a 'real' marine is someone who wouldn't turn his back on fighting a war for chickenhawks while killing 'hodgies' indiscriminately, then yeah, you're right, he's not a marine...he's a man.
Thrashaero 5 years ago
ill put 50 bucks that he is too chickenshit and he is using this as his excuse not to go over. And the spelling is "haji" and oh yeah next war after this one ill remember your comments and tell my commanders that im not fighting cause thrashaero said i could pick and choose the wars i fight. God help america and the mentality of its people stand the fuck by because america will fall because of this excuse ridden society.
mordrid84 5 years ago
maybe chickenshit to you to refuse to participate in an illegal war...others with brains call it a conscience. you pick the wars you fight by joining dumbass. unlike your bloodthirsty and brainwashed self, a lot join because of the predatory recruiters that trick them into thinking it's all fun and games and gets them out of the ghetto...when in reality they're being used for cannon fodder. if you like it so much go fill a spot someone else doesn't want once they realized they got fucked.
Thrashaero 5 years ago
Fucking people like you make me sick to my stomach. You sit here and act tough over a comp but you would be to pussy to say these things to a real soldier to his face. You talk as is you know the military. You dont know shit. You expect everything and dont want to give anything back to this country that has given you a good life. You dont deserve to be in the same room as a soldier because they are real men unlike you. If you hate america, its government, and its soldiers than get the fuck out.
norcalsox 5 years ago
sorry to burst your bubble but I am in the executive branch where Shrub is CEO. the UCMJ forbids me to be specific. My coworkers have little objection to my views, in fact they often express theirs before I do. If your version of a real soldier is lining up and kissing ass regardless, you can take that garbage and shove it because it has zero to do with defending this country's freedom and constitution.
Thrashaero 5 years ago
I do know what the real version of a soldier is because i am one. I was not tricked in to join i volunteered just like all of those traitors in the vid. I am doing my part to defend this country and the constitution that i beleive in fully. What do you beyond telling me an hundereds of thousands of other guys that we are "brainwashed and blood thirsty"?
norcalsox 5 years ago
OH you are one? Well what exactly do you consider any of this Iraq war and what you've done in it having anything to do with defending this country and the constitution?
Brainwashed and bloodthirsty are the categories of thought applied to people who actually think this war is worth a shit. You either have not a clue about the big picture or you're just happy to go out and play with guns and kill some foreigners.
Thrashaero 5 years ago
God you really dont have much of a clue do do you? You really do sound like some paper pusher from the DD or wherever you work. Ive been to Iraq once so far back in 05 and now im in the reserves so i dont know yet if im going back but let me tell you why i was defending my country nulike you. In my whole experience there we never really engaged iraqi insurgets. We were always fighting forgein terrorists though. Syrians, jordanians, chechens, algerians, saudis, egyptians most of them al qaeda.
norcalsox 5 years ago
These people are the same people who want to attack america. Better it in iraq than in the US. If we stay in iraq it will benefit us in the long run with dealing with Iran. If we leave there will be civil war and a new country call alqaedastan basically. Then we will have to go back in 10 yrs again.
norcalsox 5 years ago
unlike me? again...how exactly is fighting in this POS war have anything to do with defending this country? you keep dodging the question. I know a few people who've done REAL combat (not just be there) who have a much more fervent angst against this war and administration than anybody else I know. The only reason you believe so much in your duty being anything close to 'defending' this country in this war is that you'd have nothing else to be proud of.
Thrashaero 5 years ago
I have told you how i have defended my country faggot. Im 21 yrs old and im extremely proud of what i have done in that time. What have you done beyond hate soldiers who dont agree with you? I have not seen real combat? I will not even respond your dumbass on this because you can never understand combat. You try living in al anbar for 13 months.
norcalsox 5 years ago
And yeah i to know guys who dont like the war but they still went unlike these traitors in the vid. You cant pick and choose the wars you fight if you volunteer. Your a civie, dont know what you are talking about. You wont even say who you work for in the govt, if you really do.
norcalsox 5 years ago
dumbshit, you keep forgetting the UCMJ. you think i'm dumb enough to identify myself just to prove it to some brownshirt punk?
Thrashaero 5 years ago
you conflate fighting in Iraq with defending this country. How exactly do you connect one with the other? Anyway, I'm saying you're only so proud of it because it would greatly inconvenience you to find it's all garbage.. Real people can drop their prides when they see what's wrong.
Thrashaero 5 years ago
Dont give me this Uniform Code of Military Justice shit. You can tell me the department you work for. Im not asking your name and MOS. I told you before idiot that iraq is the war on terrorism now. Better that it be fought there than getting attacked here in the states killing innocents.
norcalsox 5 years ago
If we leave iraq before its done with then it will be twenty times worse than afghanistan ever was. Do you understand that? Your a wannabe policy maker right? Since you asked me i'll ask you. What have you done to defend this country?
norcalsox 5 years ago
not much by being in the military, I can tell you that. just because you fight a bunch of provacateured angry people in a bullshit war doesn't make you any more of a defender than me. Nobody can get around that leaving Iraq now is stupid. It was the whole debacle of invading it over false bullshit in the first place. They got their foot in the door, and that's all they needed. Leave? They knew nobody could tell them that. all they needed was a big enough lie to get in there.
Thrashaero 5 years ago
Sure bud. I thought it was about WMD. I mean that's what was paraded repeatedly. It's what press secretary Ari Fleischer said. Not about this bullshit about getting them to come out of the woodwork. The only reason they're in Iraq is because it's been destabilized. Saddam had nothing to do with Al-CIAda remember? or do you still believe he did?
Thrashaero 5 years ago
Alright man here we go again. I do not think that there was a link with al qaeda and saddam. I do know that the terrorists are there now. That is reality. Stop playing the whole "we were misled bullshit" and deal with the now. I have been there have you? I have seen so many people who want this to work there only to be killed by other muslims NOT americans. It is a very different perspective when you live around these people.
norcalsox 5 years ago
You would not know that though...you still wont even answer the simplest of questions that were in my last post. Stop playing your little propaganda bullshit and answer my questions. You have given me nothing to believe you work for the government in some way. Personally you just sound like some commie or anarchist living out of your moms basement.
norcalsox 5 years ago
aaaahahahahaha! commie or anarchist! always in the vernacular of some ultra-rightwing nut. dude I'm not telling you shit, you're not worth proving it to. besides this is getting fucking ridiculous. The original issue was that I'm calling Rumsfeld a liar. He lied. The whole administration lied. That's a fact. Everyone knows it. Except the minority of people still brainwashed and in denial...probably not much different than those Jesus Camp kids literally worshipping his picture.
Thrashaero 5 years ago
oh so now you only care about what's going on after the damage is done, not to what started it? Defending the military is not to be conflated with defending the nation. You know, it would help if we didn't have people actually from our governments sponsoring the terrorism itself. Ever heard of the SAS guys arrested in Basra for posing as terrorists?
Thrashaero 5 years ago
Alright your obviously lying to me at this point. You answer a single question i ask you. You avoid all of them. You dont have anything to do with the govt. Your just a fucking fake who hates america. Im not gonna repond to your propoganda anymore. Later faggot
norcalsox 5 years ago
and what clue do you have about the big picture? mr UCMJ forbids me to tell my job" Well then i will tell. Hey everyone meet Thrashaero he flips burgers!
mordrid84 4 years ago
I hope america falls!! Fuck.. al ot of us here hope for civil war in the US
slackdave 5 years ago
mordrid84, that man IS a marine. He has the values of a US marine, honor, courage, and committment. He had the honor to know his actions were wrong, he had the courage to admit it, and he has the commitment to ending this war of lies.
Scotty7617 4 years ago
what lies? you think he has uncovered any lies? do you think he knows some kind of truth that evades the rest of us? Are we in iraq because of a bunch of BS? maybe. but then again maybe we fought WW2 under the cover of conspiracy.
mordrid84 4 years ago
maybe we did! ever look into it? How about WWI for that matter. We KNOW Vietnam was total utter bullshit.
Wars in general are bullshit.
That is not to say Nazis, Communists, Terrorists, etc are good. It is to say that as problems, they become useful to those who want to make a buck and spread power, making the problem 10x worse. Hell we're even using Jundullah now to attack Iran with. They're an Al-Qaeda organization. That shows you how bullshit this 'war on terror' is.
Thrashaero 4 years ago
Bush Rules!
depravedone 5 years ago
Bush rules!
depravedone 5 years ago
Great vid!!!Yeah"Bush, The cover up story".
wildrider07 5 years ago
Bush is a big asfucking gay pussy!
ThaRealKevmasta 5 years ago
BUSH SUCKS SOOO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!
eggs579 5 years ago
LMFAO!! bush sucks!! i loved the vid, 5 stars!!^^
Kagomelove14 5 years ago
buuuuuuuuuuuush sux he really really sux
buuuuuuuuuuuush sux he really really sux
dimangels 5 years ago
hEll yeah!!! bush sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that's alot of suck
theDARKLORDrules 5 years ago
wow..
666livingdeadgirl666 5 years ago
they got thier heads up thier asses,the shit is gonna hit the fan!
NUETRONFILMS 5 years ago
Where is the democratic leadership on this issue? Nowhere just like on everything else when it comes to the neocon agenda! Wake up people! Your government is out to lunch and treading dangerous waters.
caliburx1 5 years ago