Basically- it's not that simple. It may be hard to convince someone with a bong in their hand that mind altering drugs are NOT good for you, or a society. What modern convenience are you using that was invented by a pothead? Electricity, light bulb, airplane? You fail to understand that an illegal 'family' (man, woman, plus 4 or 5 kids) is putting an extreme burden on our social, educational, and medical system. Our lifeboat is full, 17,000,000 have to get out, or we will all drown. Get it?
Well the drug situation is only at the level thAt it is because of Américas corrupt government n not to mention thAt most of americans use these drugs being smugled here but most of wat u said was perty much dead center FUCK rasist pigs
No, the problems is everybodys pointing the damn finger at each other n don't know how to work together. imagine everybody working together...but some are just to racially attached to things like if it's a law. people need to forget about the bullshit n man the fucc up.
lets be honest's ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the problem here is the black people and the whiteaases lazy's people getting food stamps,,and walfare,,hahaha thats the fucking real problem~~~`
@tonybaloney1972 You're just mad.. whats the point, being mad all the time .. no wonder whites have so many health problems,, you guys are always stressing yourselfs out.. this guy at least gets it..
honestly, it is my belief that any illegal immigrant not here because of severe medical problems is a coward.Yes I mean Mexicans.They are cowards because of instead of repairing their own government infrastructure they run away,and come here taking jobs from our tax paying citizens.
Blame it on your government who has the CIA, it's military, and its rules to make sure third world countries like Mexico remain poor, repressed and jobless. Stealing everyone's natural resources is how the US became what it is today, so dude, you need to be well inform and don't just make such ignorant statements.
Thanks for stopping the trolling and stopping the "beating around the bush." All I wanted was some easy pwnge, and once you attempted to back up your idiotic argument, you got pwnd.
I am serious about the breathing thing though. Stop it. Any amount of used oxygen is too much.
So where is this illegal demand that is going to replace the illegal demand for drugs coming from? *owned*. How could all the people in the illegal drug maket continue to make money in the BLACK MARKET if there is not an equal or greater amount of money to be made? (OWNED)
It must be terrible to be so uneducated. Well, see ya troll!
You really don't have any kind of idea how the black market works, or crime in general, do you? :D There is no need for an equal or greater amount of money to be made, it could be a hundredth and it would still drive as many people to commit the same types of crimes. Not everybody has a choice but to commit crimes and there will always be people who try to get money by whatever means there are. An honest days work is not an option for every fucking body, or they'd be doing it already.
You've never bought illegal drugs. From that post it is safe to say that you really have not known, spoken to, or met a drug dealer. You've probably never met a criminal. Shut the fuck up and go play with your snakes. You do not know anything.
"..people who try to get money by whatever means there are."
Really? Do you know somebody that'd give a BJ for a nickle?
"An honest days work is not an option for every fucking body, or they'd be doing it already."
What if they made more money by working honestly? Would it still be "not an option" for them? Or do you think they'd have "no choice" and go from a drugdealer to a prostitute, or a bankrobber, or a hitman, and accept any price despite the moral cost and risk of civil punishment?
You know as well as I do that the economic size of all other criminal activities, combined, are no where near the size of the economy of the illegal drug trade.
You've owned yourself by suggesting that criminals will not diminish in size or in power if drugs are legalized. You are a fucking idiot if you think other illegal activities will wax to absorb all of those criminals that were involved with the drug trade. You know that won't happen. Consider yourself owned.
"Does. Not. Matter. Simple enough for you? They aren't doing it for fun, remember?"
Does matter because they are not doing it for fun. They are doing it money. They are doing it for money. Money. Money. Money. Money. Money. The economic size matters because the sole reason they are doing it, is for money. That is right, it is money. Money is the reason they are doing it. Not for fun. Money. Money is why.
You're a fucking imbecile. You were born owned. I'm done with responding to trolls.
Does not matter, because they're not doing it for fun, they are doing it for money. And they'll keep doing things for money and they know how to do those things for money. And the economic size does not matter, because the there's no surplus of labor on the black market. There never is.
"Does not matter, because they're not doing it for fun, they are doing it for money. And they'll keep doing things for money and they know how to do those things for money. And the economic size does not matter, because the there's no surplus of labor on the black market. There never is."
Anybody, that knows anything about economics, crime, or drugs, will read this and know that you are an idiot or a hopeless troll.
Post a comment quoting those explanations. You have not given any.
"No, I *won't* give you an answer."
You still have not.
You are a hopeless imbecile. You say that drug dealers will continue taking part in illegal activities if the illegal drug trade goes away. Yet you say there is nothing you can suggest that will take the place of the illegal drug trade. So what are the drug dealers going to do if they cannot deal drugs?
"No, none of them will go away, they'll simply move on to other kinds of illegal activities. If there's money in something illegal, they'll be doing it."
Please explain. Please back up your baseless claim. Unless you can show with logic that drug dealers have/are/will move into a different field of crime your argument is still void.
Not true. People learn lots of nasty habits during prohibition that they then retain after the prohibition. It happened to alcohol and it's going to happen to drugs.
Alcohol related problems were under control before the prohibition, but ending the prohibition did nothing to eliminate the alcohol related problems that arose due to it.
Then how do you explain the decrease in all crime? And when I say all crime, I mean all crime including bootlegging .
And you exactly right. Criminals did not go away. BUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF CRIMINALS INVOLVED WITH BOOTLEGGING DID NOT PICK UP A NEW CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. Owned. owned. owned. owned. And I am done with you.
A recent trend and you know it. Crime rose during the first several decades following the end of prohibition and has only been on the decline for the last couple.
"BUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF CRIMINALS INVOLVED WITH BOOTLEGGING DID NOT PICK UP A NEW CRIMINAL ACTIVITY."
Stop trolling. Anybody with a high school diploma knows that's the complete opposite of the truth.
The homicide rate and the crime rate immediately reversed. Source:U.S. Bureau of the Census, Historical Statistics of the United States, Colonial Times to 1970 (Washington: Government Printing Office, 1975), part 1, p. 414.
If anybody sees this comment, please block SAsgarters. It is clearly shown that he is trolling and deserves to have his account suspended.
I'd call you a troll back, if I was convinced that you weren't just a moron. But clearly you're a dishonest moron and it clearly doesn't even matter to you that I said "alcohol related problems".
But let's play your game for a second. Let's have a look at the trends. What you see in the homicide trend is a minor drop right after the prohibition ended, a stable period due to two wars, although with a clear peak between them, followed by a sharp rise. The alcohol consumption also increased.
You see, I read that, but I gave you the benefit of the doubt, and took it that you meant alcohol related criminal problems, because, well, you pointless dipshit, we have been posting about crime. Not alcoholism. Yes crime. Crime is what we have been talking about. So the fact that you posted that pointless comment and claimed my post is not true by fiat, shows that you're a troll and an imbecile.
It's fair to say that people know that your trolling when your comments get spammed. lol.
Let's look at your idiotic logic. Prohibition starts in 1920. Crime shoots up. Prohibition ends in 1933. Crime goes down. More than a decade later, crime increases. So, according to you, because crime increases at a time that has no relative value to prohibition, prohibition had no effect on the crime rate.
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Seriously, do a favor to yourself and the world. Stop breathing. You're wasting O2.
perhaps if the united states didnt have its presence in every other country you might be able to protect your own border...i also agree with your opinion on the legalization being a huge factor if not the only factor for drug related violence
Well said, VH. I could easily have shown a Budweiser truck and said, "Think about how much devastation this would cause!". I say make all drugs legal, tax the hell out of them and use the money for education and treatment programs. Of course DEA agents would have to get a real job and they won't stand for that.
Yes, most will, and those that don't go away will lose their power. Why would they continue what they have been doing if their was no money in it? Do you think they were dealing drugs for fun?
No, none of them will go away, they'll simply move on to other kinds of illegal activities. If there's money in something illegal, they'll be doing it.
And no, I don't think they were dealing drugs for fun, which is why I don't for a second believe that they'll start studying and getting honest jobs once they go out of business.
That argument's base is built upon the faulty assumption that there is an equal amount of potential revenue that can be gained in illegal activities that are not at all relative to the illegal drug trade. So, enlighten me by explaining what profitable illegal activities will arise in place of drug trade, which, I am certain, accounts for more than 75% of all black market revenue.
It seems that you didn't really understand what I was saying there. On a bad day, I'd call you a fucking moron for implying that I had suggested that some other activity would "arise in place of drug trade" and for babbling about revenue when I'm talking about a segment of the population having the skills and the motivation to continue illegal activities, but lacking the opportunity and the motivation to do anything else.
Then you do not understand why violent criminal involved in the drug trade are participating in illegal activities. They are not doing it for fun or just for the hell of it. They are doing it for MONEY. Unless some other illegal activity arises that turns MONEY over to them in place of the MONEY they could have received from their involvement in the drug trade, they will cease illegal activity.
So your plan is to establish some form of utopia without any social problems at all, where crime doesn't ever pay, where money isn't even an issue and where every former drug dealer gets a complete amnesty for all crimes they've ever committed. Got it.
You know what, I'm just going to call you a fucking moron anyway. What part exactly is you don't understand? That dealing drugs might not be the only type of crime that criminals do for MONEY?
"That dealing drugs might not be the only type of crime that criminals do for MONEY?"
That is the part I don't understand. I have asked you twice already. What are they going to do? You do not answer the question. There is no other illegal activity like the drug trade. It is extremely profitable and easy to conceal from law enforcement. So tell me, what other profitable illegal activity could possibly replace the drug trade?!?
Please tell me what black market activity could be as near as profitable as drug dealing.
You cannot give me an answer because you know as well as I that there is nothing similar to it. The majority of criminals involved in the drug trade will cease to be criminals. Just like how bootlegging became virtually extinct after prohibition and the crime rate shot down to all time lows with it. They didn't start shooting everyone for fun and commit random acts of violence after prohibition ended.
Here's a thought. Pick up a law book and start figuring out what crimes there are.
Look, I already told you they aren't breaking it for fun. I'm fully aware that they don't do it for fun. That's why they aren't going to stop. Are you getting this at all?
"The majority of criminals involved in the drug trade will cease to be criminals."
DRUG TRADE will cease to be a crime. You know as well as I do that their second highest ambition isn't to be to flipping burgers for the rest of their lives.
No, I *won't* give you an answer. There's a difference. I don't give answers when the people I'm talking to really are able to figure it out for themselves, but just won't acknowledge it.
Acknowledge that there are other illegal ways of making money.
"because you know as well as I that there is nothing similar to it."
Yeah, you don't get to decide that it has to be something similar to it.
You won't give an answer because you cannot give an answer. The only comparison you can make to another illegal activity, other than dealing drugs, with drug dealing is that the other illegal activity is illegal. It is idiocy to assume that 100% of drug dealers will start robbing banks, shoplifting, or whore themselves out because they can no longer make money off of dealing drugs.
You are the biggest fucking idiot. Just give me some reason, scenario, example, etc. that shows why the majority of people dealing drugs would suddenly switch into a different criminal career if drug dealing was no longer profitable.
Let me ask you this: have you ever done drugs? Have you ever met a drug dealer? Have you ever met a criminal? Have you ever met a gang member? For all of those, I have. I've know one really big, big time drug dealer. One day the guy became overcome by his own paranoia and quit. He never robbed banks, he never became a prostitute. I refuse to acknowledge something that has never happened, and I have never heard of a drug dealer quit his job to begin a career in a different field of crime.
"have you ever done drugs? Have you ever met a drug dealer? Have you ever met a criminal? Have you ever met a gang member?"
Yes to all questions, but I've only done legal ones. I've also seen the lengths people go to, to smuggle those into the country or to just get them cheaper.
I don't give a flying fuck about your "big time drug dealer" friend. According to you, he quit.
So you've met a drug dealer that quit dealing drugs and started doing some other illegal activity? Just give me some scenario, real or imaginary, where some dealer quits dealing to take up some other illegal activity. Do you really believe the majority of drug dealers would go into a different illegal business if they could not make money off of dealing drugs? All I want to hear is some explanation to your unbacked up claim, but you will not (or cannot) do that. Just do it.
You just don't get it, do you? :D You're talking about quitting, a voluntary action taken by someone who does have a choice. If you're forced to stop dealing drugs, you specifically do not have a choice.
I guess it wouldn't be hard to start doing a honest day's work, if you had just been dealing drugs for fun and not money. ;)
And by the way, your claims are the ones that aren't backed up by anything, not even logic. I have given explanations, but I guess you've been too busy evading them.
My claims are backed up by logic. My claims are as follows: People deal drugs for money. If they could not make money they would stop dealing drugs. If they stopped dealing drugs, there is no reason to believe that the majority of them would start a new criminal career. Refute that argument please. You have not backed up your claim, ever.
Yes, haha, i have the perfect base.THEY AREN'T DEALING DRUGS FOR FUCKING FUN AS WELL AS THEY ARE NOT BREAKING THE LAW FOR FUN. SO WHY WOULD THEY CONTINUE TO BREAK THE LAW IF THEY COULD NOT MAKE MONEY OFF OF IT? IN ORDER ANY OR ALL OF THEM TO CONTINUE MAKING MONEY OFF OF SOMETHING ILLEGAL A THE REST OF THE BLACK MARKET ECONOMY WILL HAVE TO GROW TO ABSORB THEIR *EMPLOYMENT* (if you will) THERE IS NO FUCKING WAY THAT COULD HAPPEN.
"SO WHY WOULD THEY CONTINUE TO BREAK THE LAW IF THEY COULD NOT MAKE MONEY OFF OF IT?"
Because they still can make money off of it.
THE REST OF THE BLACK MARKET ECONOMY WILL HAVE TO GROW TO ABSORB THEIR *EMPLOYMENT*
That would be moronic comment #320. :D What does competition look like in "the criminal business world"? How does express itself? What do criminals do when they compete? They can carve out a new niche or occupy an existing one.
Look, let me explain some basic economics to you. If I started hiding in the mountains to grow weed, I would do it to sell to someone that would pay for it. If there was nobody that would pay for it, then I would not grow the weed. For there to be the product, there has to be a demand. I would not open an illegal brothel, unless I would make money off of people paying for sex. For there to be an black market (market=economy, dumb fuck) there has to be an illegal demand.
"Here's a thought. Pick up a law book and start figuring out what crimes there are." I've read, researched, and have tried my best to help a grade school failure out, but despite my overly generous attempts, I still cannot find a single activity that could possibly take the place of the illegal drug trade. I guess you must know some hidden secret that you are not sharing.
Yes, that's right. They aren't breaking the law for fun. They are breaking the law for money, and there is nothing like drugs when it comes to being able to make a profit in the black market.
Yeah, so what I am saying here is that the "segment of the population having the skills and the motivation to continue illegal activities" is participating in those activities because they make money off of those activities. If they cannot make a living off of those activities, then why would they persist in illegal activities? For fun? For the hell of it? Enlighten us.
And just how will ending this life ruining prohibition open, this so called "pandora's box from hell"?? And why hasn't it done so in countries where drug use is legal or decriminalized??
I think one thing the U.S. should've been doing for awhile now is working more with Mexico so they would have a better country. Mexico's gov is very corrupt, and if you change a few things here and there it might be a more stable country over all. That way they would only need to come to the U.S. for a vacation, not a job. I really don't know enough about Mexico to comment other than that though.
I'm for the legalization of marijuana. Certain drugs like meth should remain illegal imo.
the U.S. has always interfered with the Mexican government, they aren't interested in working with the Mexican government as much as they are interested in controlling it. I'm not saying the corruption in Mexico is is 100% the result of U.S. interference, but it does play its part.
...hell yes...great words...ppl would rather throw an inclusion blanket over ALL illegal immigrants and bame them ALL for problems that could be better solved with thought and tolerance...cheers!
I feel so bad for those salt of the Earth American weed dealers that get pushed out of the marketplace by those evil Mexican weed dealers that are in our country illegally. It's like a man can't even make an honest living selling weed anymore.
Good video dude!
GIRLFRIENDxxxx 3 months ago
all you racist people are fucked up :)
mrprincegogeta 5 months ago
Basically- it's not that simple. It may be hard to convince someone with a bong in their hand that mind altering drugs are NOT good for you, or a society. What modern convenience are you using that was invented by a pothead? Electricity, light bulb, airplane? You fail to understand that an illegal 'family' (man, woman, plus 4 or 5 kids) is putting an extreme burden on our social, educational, and medical system. Our lifeboat is full, 17,000,000 have to get out, or we will all drown. Get it?
ChicagoNeilcon 6 months ago
Well the drug situation is only at the level thAt it is because of Américas corrupt government n not to mention thAt most of americans use these drugs being smugled here but most of wat u said was perty much dead center FUCK rasist pigs
MrSmokey852 8 months ago
yes, i agree with EVERYTHING you said. thankyou.
xithsam 11 months ago
I just wish there was no suck thing as race and nations. Land of the FREEE
chuncaladush 1 year ago
No, the problems is everybodys pointing the damn finger at each other n don't know how to work together. imagine everybody working together...but some are just to racially attached to things like if it's a law. people need to forget about the bullshit n man the fucc up.
ChoppedNScrewedTX 1 year ago
lets be honest's ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the problem here is the black people and the whiteaases lazy's people getting food stamps,,and walfare,,hahaha thats the fucking real problem~~~`
POWERSALVATRUCHO13 1 year ago
WOW
Just when I thought you couldn't be any DUMBER...I watched this vid.
Illegals are killing this country. Open your fuckin eyes you stupid liberal.
tonybaloney1972 2 years ago
@tonybaloney1972 You're just mad.. whats the point, being mad all the time .. no wonder whites have so many health problems,, you guys are always stressing yourselfs out.. this guy at least gets it..
chuncaladush 1 year ago
Who are we to stop people from moving where they want, where the property owners want them?
What do we do when a person who has moved against your wishes (to land you have no claim to) defends himself against abduction by the men in blue?
blackacidlizzard 2 years ago
honestly, it is my belief that any illegal immigrant not here because of severe medical problems is a coward.Yes I mean Mexicans.They are cowards because of instead of repairing their own government infrastructure they run away,and come here taking jobs from our tax paying citizens.
peternorthsgotnothin 2 years ago
Blame it on your government who has the CIA, it's military, and its rules to make sure third world countries like Mexico remain poor, repressed and jobless. Stealing everyone's natural resources is how the US became what it is today, so dude, you need to be well inform and don't just make such ignorant statements.
005120158 2 years ago
(I lied, sorry, last comment). T
Thanks for stopping the trolling and stopping the "beating around the bush." All I wanted was some easy pwnge, and once you attempted to back up your idiotic argument, you got pwnd.
I am serious about the breathing thing though. Stop it. Any amount of used oxygen is too much.
benjamaiLL 3 years ago
So where is this illegal demand that is going to replace the illegal demand for drugs coming from? *owned*. How could all the people in the illegal drug maket continue to make money in the BLACK MARKET if there is not an equal or greater amount of money to be made? (OWNED)
It must be terrible to be so uneducated. Well, see ya troll!
benjamaiLL 3 years ago
You really don't have any kind of idea how the black market works, or crime in general, do you? :D There is no need for an equal or greater amount of money to be made, it could be a hundredth and it would still drive as many people to commit the same types of crimes. Not everybody has a choice but to commit crimes and there will always be people who try to get money by whatever means there are. An honest days work is not an option for every fucking body, or they'd be doing it already.
SAsgarters 3 years ago
You've never bought illegal drugs. From that post it is safe to say that you really have not known, spoken to, or met a drug dealer. You've probably never met a criminal. Shut the fuck up and go play with your snakes. You do not know anything.
benjamaiLL 3 years ago
"it could be a hundredth and it would still drive as many people to commit the same types of crimes"
Awful logic. Just awful. Have you really met anyone that will do anything for any amount of money?
"Not everybody has a choice but to commit crimes"
People can't make their own decisions? Is this your secret? Criminals did not choose to break the law, they actually had no choice?
benjamaiLL 3 years ago
"..people who try to get money by whatever means there are."
Really? Do you know somebody that'd give a BJ for a nickle?
"An honest days work is not an option for every fucking body, or they'd be doing it already."
What if they made more money by working honestly? Would it still be "not an option" for them? Or do you think they'd have "no choice" and go from a drugdealer to a prostitute, or a bankrobber, or a hitman, and accept any price despite the moral cost and risk of civil punishment?
benjamaiLL 3 years ago
You know as well as I do that the economic size of all other criminal activities, combined, are no where near the size of the economy of the illegal drug trade.
You've owned yourself by suggesting that criminals will not diminish in size or in power if drugs are legalized. You are a fucking idiot if you think other illegal activities will wax to absorb all of those criminals that were involved with the drug trade. You know that won't happen. Consider yourself owned.
benjamaiLL 3 years ago
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SAsgarters 3 years ago
"the economic size"
Does. Not. Matter. Simple enough for you? They aren't doing it for fun, remember?
"suggesting that criminals will not diminish in size or in power if drugs are legalized"
I have done nothing of the sort and that makes your post and a dozen like it SELF-ownage. You goddamn moron.
SAsgarters 3 years ago
"Does. Not. Matter. Simple enough for you? They aren't doing it for fun, remember?"
Does matter because they are not doing it for fun. They are doing it money. They are doing it for money. Money. Money. Money. Money. Money. The economic size matters because the sole reason they are doing it, is for money. That is right, it is money. Money is the reason they are doing it. Not for fun. Money. Money is why.
You're a fucking imbecile. You were born owned. I'm done with responding to trolls.
benjamaiLL 3 years ago
Does not matter, because they're not doing it for fun, they are doing it for money. And they'll keep doing things for money and they know how to do those things for money. And the economic size does not matter, because the there's no surplus of labor on the black market. There never is.
SAsgarters 3 years ago
"Does not matter, because they're not doing it for fun, they are doing it for money. And they'll keep doing things for money and they know how to do those things for money. And the economic size does not matter, because the there's no surplus of labor on the black market. There never is."
Anybody, that knows anything about economics, crime, or drugs, will read this and know that you are an idiot or a hopeless troll.
benjamaiLL 3 years ago
"Anybody, that knows anything about economics, crime, or drugs, will read this and know that you are an idiot or a hopeless troll."
Wow, I must remember that next time I try to please some vague, mysterious "Anybody".
SAsgarters 3 years ago
"I have given explanations"
Post a comment quoting those explanations. You have not given any.
"No, I *won't* give you an answer."
You still have not.
You are a hopeless imbecile. You say that drug dealers will continue taking part in illegal activities if the illegal drug trade goes away. Yet you say there is nothing you can suggest that will take the place of the illegal drug trade. So what are the drug dealers going to do if they cannot deal drugs?
benjamaiLL 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I have given explanations and you're wasting my time by asking me to repeat myself.
SAsgarters 3 years ago
"No, none of them will go away, they'll simply move on to other kinds of illegal activities. If there's money in something illegal, they'll be doing it."
Please explain. Please back up your baseless claim. Unless you can show with logic that drug dealers have/are/will move into a different field of crime your argument is still void.
benjamaiLL 3 years ago
Already did and you're wasting my time by asking me to repeat myself.
SAsgarters 3 years ago
No you did not. You never did. I am done with idiotic trolls like you.
benjamaiLL 3 years ago
Keep telling yourself that.
SAsgarters 3 years ago
Nobody will ever learn from prohibition.
benjamaiLL 3 years ago
Not true. People learn lots of nasty habits during prohibition that they then retain after the prohibition. It happened to alcohol and it's going to happen to drugs.
Alcohol related problems were under control before the prohibition, but ending the prohibition did nothing to eliminate the alcohol related problems that arose due to it.
SAsgarters 3 years ago
Then how do you explain the decrease in all crime? And when I say all crime, I mean all crime including bootlegging .
And you exactly right. Criminals did not go away. BUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF CRIMINALS INVOLVED WITH BOOTLEGGING DID NOT PICK UP A NEW CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. Owned. owned. owned. owned. And I am done with you.
benjamaiLL 3 years ago
A recent trend and you know it. Crime rose during the first several decades following the end of prohibition and has only been on the decline for the last couple.
"BUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF CRIMINALS INVOLVED WITH BOOTLEGGING DID NOT PICK UP A NEW CRIMINAL ACTIVITY."
Keep telling yourself that, dumbass. :D
SAsgarters 3 years ago
Last comment.
Stop trolling. Anybody with a high school diploma knows that's the complete opposite of the truth.
The homicide rate and the crime rate immediately reversed. Source:U.S. Bureau of the Census, Historical Statistics of the United States, Colonial Times to 1970 (Washington: Government Printing Office, 1975), part 1, p. 414.
If anybody sees this comment, please block SAsgarters. It is clearly shown that he is trolling and deserves to have his account suspended.
benjamaiLL 3 years ago
I'd call you a troll back, if I was convinced that you weren't just a moron. But clearly you're a dishonest moron and it clearly doesn't even matter to you that I said "alcohol related problems".
But let's play your game for a second. Let's have a look at the trends. What you see in the homicide trend is a minor drop right after the prohibition ended, a stable period due to two wars, although with a clear peak between them, followed by a sharp rise. The alcohol consumption also increased.
SAsgarters 3 years ago
"alcohol related problems"
You see, I read that, but I gave you the benefit of the doubt, and took it that you meant alcohol related criminal problems, because, well, you pointless dipshit, we have been posting about crime. Not alcoholism. Yes crime. Crime is what we have been talking about. So the fact that you posted that pointless comment and claimed my post is not true by fiat, shows that you're a troll and an imbecile.
benjamaiLL 3 years ago
"Last comment."
This will be mine. I'm done wasting my time on your stupidity.
SAsgarters 3 years ago
It's fair to say that people know that your trolling when your comments get spammed. lol.
Let's look at your idiotic logic. Prohibition starts in 1920. Crime shoots up. Prohibition ends in 1933. Crime goes down. More than a decade later, crime increases. So, according to you, because crime increases at a time that has no relative value to prohibition, prohibition had no effect on the crime rate.
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Seriously, do a favor to yourself and the world. Stop breathing. You're wasting O2.
benjamaiLL 3 years ago
Well spoken.
lazydawgxx 3 years ago
perhaps if the united states didnt have its presence in every other country you might be able to protect your own border...i also agree with your opinion on the legalization being a huge factor if not the only factor for drug related violence
GullyMac 3 years ago
Well said, VH. I could easily have shown a Budweiser truck and said, "Think about how much devastation this would cause!". I say make all drugs legal, tax the hell out of them and use the money for education and treatment programs. Of course DEA agents would have to get a real job and they won't stand for that.
cehbeach 3 years ago
Does anybody seriously think that violent criminals are just going to go away if what they've been doing so far suddenly becomes legal?
SAsgarters 3 years ago
Yes, most will, and those that don't go away will lose their power. Why would they continue what they have been doing if their was no money in it? Do you think they were dealing drugs for fun?
benjamaiLL 3 years ago
No, none of them will go away, they'll simply move on to other kinds of illegal activities. If there's money in something illegal, they'll be doing it.
And no, I don't think they were dealing drugs for fun, which is why I don't for a second believe that they'll start studying and getting honest jobs once they go out of business.
SAsgarters 3 years ago
That argument's base is built upon the faulty assumption that there is an equal amount of potential revenue that can be gained in illegal activities that are not at all relative to the illegal drug trade. So, enlighten me by explaining what profitable illegal activities will arise in place of drug trade, which, I am certain, accounts for more than 75% of all black market revenue.
benjamaiLL 3 years ago
It seems that you didn't really understand what I was saying there. On a bad day, I'd call you a fucking moron for implying that I had suggested that some other activity would "arise in place of drug trade" and for babbling about revenue when I'm talking about a segment of the population having the skills and the motivation to continue illegal activities, but lacking the opportunity and the motivation to do anything else.
Of course they won't just magically go away.
SAsgarters 3 years ago
Then you do not understand why violent criminal involved in the drug trade are participating in illegal activities. They are not doing it for fun or just for the hell of it. They are doing it for MONEY. Unless some other illegal activity arises that turns MONEY over to them in place of the MONEY they could have received from their involvement in the drug trade, they will cease illegal activity.
benjamaiLL 3 years ago
So your plan is to establish some form of utopia without any social problems at all, where crime doesn't ever pay, where money isn't even an issue and where every former drug dealer gets a complete amnesty for all crimes they've ever committed. Got it.
You know what, I'm just going to call you a fucking moron anyway. What part exactly is you don't understand? That dealing drugs might not be the only type of crime that criminals do for MONEY?
SAsgarters 3 years ago
"That dealing drugs might not be the only type of crime that criminals do for MONEY?"
That is the part I don't understand. I have asked you twice already. What are they going to do? You do not answer the question. There is no other illegal activity like the drug trade. It is extremely profitable and easy to conceal from law enforcement. So tell me, what other profitable illegal activity could possibly replace the drug trade?!?
benjamaiLL 3 years ago
"That is the part I don't understand."
Try harder.
SAsgarters 3 years ago
Please tell me what black market activity could be as near as profitable as drug dealing.
You cannot give me an answer because you know as well as I that there is nothing similar to it. The majority of criminals involved in the drug trade will cease to be criminals. Just like how bootlegging became virtually extinct after prohibition and the crime rate shot down to all time lows with it. They didn't start shooting everyone for fun and commit random acts of violence after prohibition ended.
benjamaiLL 3 years ago
Here's a thought. Pick up a law book and start figuring out what crimes there are.
Look, I already told you they aren't breaking it for fun. I'm fully aware that they don't do it for fun. That's why they aren't going to stop. Are you getting this at all?
"The majority of criminals involved in the drug trade will cease to be criminals."
DRUG TRADE will cease to be a crime. You know as well as I do that their second highest ambition isn't to be to flipping burgers for the rest of their lives.
SAsgarters 3 years ago
"You cannot give me an answer"
No, I *won't* give you an answer. There's a difference. I don't give answers when the people I'm talking to really are able to figure it out for themselves, but just won't acknowledge it.
Acknowledge that there are other illegal ways of making money.
"because you know as well as I that there is nothing similar to it."
Yeah, you don't get to decide that it has to be something similar to it.
SAsgarters 3 years ago
You won't give an answer because you cannot give an answer. The only comparison you can make to another illegal activity, other than dealing drugs, with drug dealing is that the other illegal activity is illegal. It is idiocy to assume that 100% of drug dealers will start robbing banks, shoplifting, or whore themselves out because they can no longer make money off of dealing drugs.
benjamaiLL 3 years ago
"100%"
Why don't you stop making up completely idiotic requirements?
SAsgarters 3 years ago
You are the biggest fucking idiot. Just give me some reason, scenario, example, etc. that shows why the majority of people dealing drugs would suddenly switch into a different criminal career if drug dealing was no longer profitable.
benjamaiLL 3 years ago
No, the biggest fucking idiot would definitely be you.
The simple reason why they would, IS THAT THEY AREN'T DEALING DRUGS FOR FUCKING FUN.
SAsgarters 3 years ago
Let me ask you this: have you ever done drugs? Have you ever met a drug dealer? Have you ever met a criminal? Have you ever met a gang member? For all of those, I have. I've know one really big, big time drug dealer. One day the guy became overcome by his own paranoia and quit. He never robbed banks, he never became a prostitute. I refuse to acknowledge something that has never happened, and I have never heard of a drug dealer quit his job to begin a career in a different field of crime.
benjamaiLL 3 years ago
"have you ever done drugs? Have you ever met a drug dealer? Have you ever met a criminal? Have you ever met a gang member?"
Yes to all questions, but I've only done legal ones. I've also seen the lengths people go to, to smuggle those into the country or to just get them cheaper.
I don't give a flying fuck about your "big time drug dealer" friend. According to you, he quit.
SAsgarters 3 years ago
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benjamaiLL 3 years ago
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So you've met a drug dealer that quit dealing drugs and started doing some other illegal activity? Just give me some scenario, real or imaginary, where some dealer quits dealing to take up some other illegal activity. Do you really believe the majority of drug dealers would go into a different illegal business if they could not make money off of dealing drugs? All I want to hear is some explanation to your unbacked up claim, but you will not (or cannot) do that. Just do it.
benjamaiLL 3 years ago
You just don't get it, do you? :D You're talking about quitting, a voluntary action taken by someone who does have a choice. If you're forced to stop dealing drugs, you specifically do not have a choice.
I guess it wouldn't be hard to start doing a honest day's work, if you had just been dealing drugs for fun and not money. ;)
And by the way, your claims are the ones that aren't backed up by anything, not even logic. I have given explanations, but I guess you've been too busy evading them.
SAsgarters 3 years ago
My claims are backed up by logic. My claims are as follows: People deal drugs for money. If they could not make money they would stop dealing drugs. If they stopped dealing drugs, there is no reason to believe that the majority of them would start a new criminal career. Refute that argument please. You have not backed up your claim, ever.
benjamaiLL 3 years ago
"If they stopped dealing drugs, there is no reason to believe that the majority of them would start a new criminal career."
And you have absolutely no basis for making that claim, because THEY AREN'T DOING IT FOR FUN.
SAsgarters 3 years ago
Yes, haha, i have the perfect base.THEY AREN'T DEALING DRUGS FOR FUCKING FUN AS WELL AS THEY ARE NOT BREAKING THE LAW FOR FUN. SO WHY WOULD THEY CONTINUE TO BREAK THE LAW IF THEY COULD NOT MAKE MONEY OFF OF IT? IN ORDER ANY OR ALL OF THEM TO CONTINUE MAKING MONEY OFF OF SOMETHING ILLEGAL A THE REST OF THE BLACK MARKET ECONOMY WILL HAVE TO GROW TO ABSORB THEIR *EMPLOYMENT* (if you will) THERE IS NO FUCKING WAY THAT COULD HAPPEN.
benjamaiLL 3 years ago
"SO WHY WOULD THEY CONTINUE TO BREAK THE LAW IF THEY COULD NOT MAKE MONEY OFF OF IT?"
Because they still can make money off of it.
THE REST OF THE BLACK MARKET ECONOMY WILL HAVE TO GROW TO ABSORB THEIR *EMPLOYMENT*
That would be moronic comment #320. :D What does competition look like in "the criminal business world"? How does express itself? What do criminals do when they compete? They can carve out a new niche or occupy an existing one.
SAsgarters 3 years ago
Look, let me explain some basic economics to you. If I started hiding in the mountains to grow weed, I would do it to sell to someone that would pay for it. If there was nobody that would pay for it, then I would not grow the weed. For there to be the product, there has to be a demand. I would not open an illegal brothel, unless I would make money off of people paying for sex. For there to be an black market (market=economy, dumb fuck) there has to be an illegal demand.
benjamaiLL 3 years ago
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SAsgarters 3 years ago
"there has to be a demand"
In the end it's your own fucking demand we're talking about here.
"I would not ................., unless I would make money................."
Exactly my point, dumbass. And there will always be crimes to commit for money.
SAsgarters 3 years ago
"Here's a thought. Pick up a law book and start figuring out what crimes there are." I've read, researched, and have tried my best to help a grade school failure out, but despite my overly generous attempts, I still cannot find a single activity that could possibly take the place of the illegal drug trade. I guess you must know some hidden secret that you are not sharing.
benjamaiLL 3 years ago
Yeah, I guess I must know something you don't. What a shocker!
It's no secret, though. Just an epic fail on your part.
SAsgarters 3 years ago
Yes, that's right. They aren't breaking the law for fun. They are breaking the law for money, and there is nothing like drugs when it comes to being able to make a profit in the black market.
benjamaiLL 3 years ago
Yeah, so what I am saying here is that the "segment of the population having the skills and the motivation to continue illegal activities" is participating in those activities because they make money off of those activities. If they cannot make a living off of those activities, then why would they persist in illegal activities? For fun? For the hell of it? Enlighten us.
benjamaiLL 3 years ago
Weed is one thing but Crack and Meth I say Fuck No! If you make the hard shit legal then you will open The Pandora's Box from Hell...
MadBadVoodo 3 years ago
what is going to happen? The same people who want to fuck up their lives will fuck them up legally.
rettwoods 3 years ago
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xxxchaindrive 3 years ago
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And just how will ending this life ruining prohibition open, this so called "pandora's box from hell"?? And why hasn't it done so in countries where drug use is legal or decriminalized??
xxxchaindrive 3 years ago
he took down the video
palmtreez101 3 years ago
Firefly said that? Damn- not a very xtian attitude, eh?
ShortbusMooner 3 years ago
yea but hard drugs r 2 addictive
geogodley 3 years ago
I think one thing the U.S. should've been doing for awhile now is working more with Mexico so they would have a better country. Mexico's gov is very corrupt, and if you change a few things here and there it might be a more stable country over all. That way they would only need to come to the U.S. for a vacation, not a job. I really don't know enough about Mexico to comment other than that though.
I'm for the legalization of marijuana. Certain drugs like meth should remain illegal imo.
FullOfFail 3 years ago
agree agree
nicanicabad 3 years ago
the U.S. has always interfered with the Mexican government, they aren't interested in working with the Mexican government as much as they are interested in controlling it. I'm not saying the corruption in Mexico is is 100% the result of U.S. interference, but it does play its part.
taliajazel 3 years ago
I agree with you 100%
Let's start by making grass legal.
VoicesintheHead 3 years ago
Firefly is Awesome !!!!!!!!
elitemathlete 3 years ago
...hell yes...great words...ppl would rather throw an inclusion blanket over ALL illegal immigrants and bame them ALL for problems that could be better solved with thought and tolerance...cheers!
leafdude 3 years ago
I feel so bad for those salt of the Earth American weed dealers that get pushed out of the marketplace by those evil Mexican weed dealers that are in our country illegally. It's like a man can't even make an honest living selling weed anymore.
Disclaimer for the idiots: ^^SARCASM!^^
h8uall66 3 years ago 2
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theracemixer 3 years ago
Whatever Pork n Beans.
elitemathlete 3 years ago
Hu?
theracemixer 3 years ago