Reply to Ghamidi on Ahmadiyya Prophethood Claim Part-1

[saldoczaidi]

Ghamdi appears credible, you don't. Please provide other references than just Mirza's writing. I have read mirza's books. He is verbose and not credible.

[daielallah]

@saldoczaidi : Ghamdi could be credible according to you. BUT as per VERDICT of our Beloved Prophet (saw) ALL THE 72 sects (Against ONLY one) are Hell bound & their Mullahs are worst creature on earth. For Proof {youtube.com/watch?v=oys_sKVEJ­k4}

[saldoczaidi]

@daielallah

Unlike Christians or the Jews, there are no 72 sects in Islam. The schism is on Inheritance not on Dogma, Tenets, Beliefs or Obligations.

[daielallah]

@saldoczaidi :

ONLY BLINDS CANNOT SEE THESE HELL BOUND 72 SECTS. {youtube.com/watch?v=qqbsTZxVy­iQ}

[rationalIT]

@daielallah. May Allah strengthen your efforts and allow others to take some heed. I am Alhamdulillah a converted Ahmadi (from sunni). I had spent 8 years in testing and comparing the truth of the enlightened viewpoints of Ahmadiyyat and others And I thank Allah for guiding me and letting me out of the nonsense beliefs. I firmly believe that if ISLAM is a true religion or if religions as a whole are true, then IslameAhmadiyyat is the only way that proves it so. Alhamdulillah Summa Alhamdulillah.

[daielallah]

@rationalIT : It appears to me as if this is my own story which you have written. May Allah bless you. May Allah enable you to spread the light of Truth in your surroundings. May Allah open the eyes & hearts of others as well so that they may also start to see the Truth.

[interfaithsydney]

wooow

[xeroze1]

No Prphet aftet Muhammad rest all are false &  liars, No logic required...

[daielallah]

@xeroze1 : If NO Prophet of any kind is to come then WHY 99% Muslims are waiting for the coming of Prop[het Issa/Jesus (as) ?

“And Joseph did come to you before with clear proofs, but you ceased not to be in doubt concerning that with which he came to you till, when he died, you said: ‘Allah will NEVER RAISE UP a Messenger after him.’ Thus does Allah adjudge as LOST those who transgress, and are DOUBTERS," {Al-Qutran 40:34}

[0313031303130]

@daielallah u perverts are not worth arguing. Jesus christ will not come as a prophet .... he will come to redeme muslims from the satanist christians and jews. by the way there is death penalty for u ppl and the day when pakistan will be under islamic sharia u zindeeks will be beheaded. INSHALLAH.

[daielallah]

@0313031303130 : You say that Issa (as) will not come as a Prophet. whereas our Beloved Prophet (saw) says OPPOSITE to it. He (saw) said "There is No Prophet between me & issa (as) & soon he will descend. “ABU DAWOOD” Ref{book 37 # 4310}

In addition to that in a single Hadith of Sahaih Muslim FOUR TIMES Prophet (saw) had termed the Issa to come as Prophet of Allah & that he will receive revelation from Allah. {(Sahaih Muslim Book 41 # 7015)}

[Ismai207]

@daielallah That hadith you quoted contradicts what your trying to say. "He (saw) said "There is No Prophet between me & issa (as) & soon he will descend. “ABU DAWOOD” Ref{book 37 # 4310}" the key words being "NO PROPHETS BETWEEN ME AND ISSA" so how is Ghulam claiming he is a prophet since he is not Muhammad (SAW) or Issa (AS) ? And yes Issa is a Rasul but when he comes back he will not bring any new message or law, he will follow the law of the Quran and not the Injeel.

[daielallah]

@Ismai207 : Hadhrat Ahmad of Qadian is Issa in the same manner as Muhammad (saw) became Ahmad & Rauf, Rahhim etc. Once gone from the world NO one EVER RETURN. Rather others comes after their names as Jahon came after the name of Elijah.

Hadhrat Ahmad (as) of Qadian also didn't bring any new book/sharyah.

[KAISER5620]

khabeeso, lanatiuo, show this idiot's picture in his own grave's background. you guys have nothing thats why u guys always show Makkah and Madina in your videos. You qadianis are one the most nonsense group of people on the face of earth at this time.

[daielallah]

@KAISER5620 : Today Mullahs belonging to 72 sects & their followers declare that ONLY Ahmadis are Non-Muslim, Nonsense etc - AS IF All the rest sects are Muslim. But they FORGET that thew VERDICT of our Beloved Prophet (saw) is Totally Opposite to it. He (saw) Declared that ALL THE SECTS WILL BE HELL BOUND EXCEPT ONLY ONE. Allah had distinguished & segregated the ONLY at the hands of Mullahs belonging to 72 sects themselves. But ALAS! Blinds could not see!!

[ShanZeize]

There is no God But Allah and Muhammad Sallallaho Allayhi Waalyhi Wassalam is the Last and Final Messenger of Almighty Allah.

[daielallah]

@ShanZeize : Can you show me EXACTLY THIS statement in Quran or Hadith?

Shahadah is

أشهد أن لا إله إلا الله و أشهد أن محمد رسول الله.

"I bear witness that there is no god but Allah, and I bear witness that Mohammad is Allah's servant and His Messenger"

Another form of Shahadah

لا إله إلا الله محمد رسول الله

"There is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah"

I THINK YOUR MULLAH HAS INVENTED A NEW SHAHADAH

[KAISER5620]

@daielallah 

[0313031303130]

@daielallah O people! Muhammad has no sons among ye men, but verily, he is the Apostle of God and the last in the line of Prophets. And God is Aware of everything. take this u infidel ....

[daielallah]

@0313031303130 : Do not PUT your own words in Allah's mouth. The verse you quoted says "O people! Muhammad has no sons among ye men, but verily, he is the Apostle of God and the SEAL OF PROPHETS And God is Aware of everything" 33:40

Today Mullahs & their followers belonging to 72 DEVIANT sects declare ONLY ONE i.e Ahmadis as non-Muslim & Infidel. But they forget that the VERDICT of our Beloved Prophet is Totally OPPOSITE. He (saw) said "ALL THE SECTS WILL BE HELL BOUND EXCEPT ONLY ONE".

[BesACB]

@ShanZeize Not true, actually.

[peacewin5]

You idiots can't make Muslim ummah regarding the Finality of Messengerhood of Last and Final Muhammad Sallallaho Allayhi waalyhi Wassalam.

[daielallah]

@peacewin5 : Hadhrat Ahmad (as) of Qadian is a Prophet of Allah & a blessed one. These are your Mullahs belonging to 72 sects who are CURSED & Hell bound according to authentic sayings of our Beloved Prophet Muhammad (saw). Your CURSED Mullahs belonging to 72 Hell bound sects are those about whom Muhammad (saw) had said that THEY WILL BE WORST CREATURE ON EARTH. Proof { watch?v=oys_sKVEJk4}

Let these Cursed & Worst Creature do what they want but they can't stop Ahmadiyyat from spreading.

[B0018590]

@daielallah Lies, bigger lies and even bigger lies spread by Murabbies and the Ahmadiyya Jamaat following it like blind herd of sheep.

[daielallah]

@B0018590 : Alhamdulillah I am a converted Ahmadi Muslim. I was born in Sunni family BUT was NEVER satisfied with Mullahs illogical & Barbaric Faith in the name of Islam.

Today Mullahs belonging to 72 sects declares that ONLY Ahmadis are Wrong & Non-Muslim - AS IF the rest are Muslim. But they forget that the VERDICT of our beloved Prophet (saw) is Totally Opposite to it. He (saw) had DECLARED that ALL the 73 sects will b Hell bound except ONLY ONE.

[B0018590]

@daielallah Telling a lie a million times does not make it a truth. Shame on you that you submitted to a deceit of MGAQ leaving the true Prophethood of Muhammad (PBUH). I am confident that a true Muslim cannot leave Islam and embrace Ahmadiyyat or for that matter any other religion. Which convinces me that you are a born Ahmadi applying your dirty gimmicks of propaganda. By the way, did you visit the nearby temple today to worship Lord Krishna whose avatar (re-incarnation) MGA claimed to be?

[daielallah]

@B0018590 : Ahmadiyyat is TRUE Islam vs 72 deviant sects in name of Islam. Believing in subordinate Prophet doesn't mean denying his master Muhammad (saw). According to Quran, A Muslim is one who believe in ALL Prophets.

There is no re-incarnation nor Prophets return FLYING from sky. Allah make Prophets from among people of the time & due to similarity grant them names of previous Prophets similar to them.

Alhamdulillah Ahmadiyyat is expanding & millions like me r joining it as True Islam.

[B0018590]

@daielallah Please stand corrected, according to Quran, a Muslim is the one who believes in ALL Prophets till the last Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). It is unfortunate that you cannot even be called a biddatti Muslim as you are somebody else. Sorry stranger, we do not recognize you. Please share your pride of following a lecherous prophet with your fellow Ahmadis. Muslims do not differentiate between you and idol-worshipping Hindus, as both are non-believers as per Islam's tenets & beliefs.

[daielallah]

@B0018590 : "O ye Children of Adam! WHENEVER there come to you apostles from AMONGST YOU, rehearsing My signs unto you,- those who are righteous and mend (their lives),- on them shall be no fear nor shall they grieve" Al-Quran 7:35

The Muslims belonging to 72 sects about whom you are talking about are Deviated & hell bound according to Sahaih Hadith of Prophet Muhammad (saw).

[B0018590]

@daielallah Fool, you are quoting the Quran mandating Allah's wish on Mankind to accept Allah's Prophets, Muhammad (PBUH) and those who came before Muhammad (PBUH). The same Quran mandates that Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) has completed the Deen and no Prophet will come after him. There is no room for doubt. It has been the basis for rejection of hundreds of fake Prophets before MGAQ and MGAQ himself. Accept that you are among the non-believers and celebrate this with your Ahmadiyya brothers.

[daielallah]

@B0018590 : Can u show me a single verse from Quran saying that even Prophet without new teachings/Shariyah can not come after Muhammad (saw)?

As per Quran our world was started from two type of persons. a) Adam b) Satan . Adam was symbol of Piousness & Satan was symbol of evil. Quran speaks about Children of Adam & Children of Satan. If one doesn't agree that he/she is among Children of Adam addressed in 7:35 then whom else progeny he/she could be!!

[daielallah]

@B0018590 : Teachings/Shariya is not essential part of Prophet-hood. There were many Prophets who didn't brought any new teachings or book. They came just for reformation of true understanding of Faith.

Quran clearly gives distinguishing signs of True & false Prophets. It says that False Prophets r always KILLED & their movements destroyed. If Hadhrat Ahmad (as) of Qadian was a False Prophet then as per Quran his mission MUST have vanished by now.

[B0018590]

@daielallah As was expected and is the habit of Ahmadi non-Muslims, you are taking it to the irrelevant tangent. Next in line is an array of false arguments with the word "metaphorical" embedded into them. Why argue when it is an uncompromized fact from Quran that no prophet, whether law-bearing or non-law-bearing, will come after Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). Beyond this, I do not have any wish to engage with a non-muslim on this. I am happy with my Iman and you with your cult. Period.

[daielallah]

@B0018590 : As per Mullahs belonging to 72 sects; Ahmadis are Non-Muslim AS IF THE REST ARE MUSLIM. But you people forget that the VERDICT of our Beloved Prophet (saw) is Totally Opposite to it. He (saw) had DECLARED that ALL THE 73 SECTS WILL BE HELL BOUND EXCEPT ONLY ONE. So, first decide that whether the VERDICT of Mullah is going to previal or the VERDICT of Prophet of Allah?

In addition to 7:35 Quran Promise Subordinate Prophets in ummah in 4:69 as well.

[B0018590]

@daielallah The 72 sect concept belongs to Muslims. You're not Muslims. People disregarding the Prophet of Islam and last prophet sent by Allah can't be Muslims. Twisting Quran to suit political goals is not Islam. Mandatory Chanda community run by a single family can never be Islam. It seems you take a lot of pleasure in quoting "THEY WILL BE WORST CREATURE ON EARTH". When that'll happen, that'll happen. But you're already the WORST CREATURE ON EARTH. Actually all Muslim-haters are.

[daielallah]

@B0018590 : As per Hadith there will be 73 sects. 72 will be hell bound yet they think of themselves as MUSLIM. 73 rd will be so much different from them that it will be paradise bound. So they 72 will see the different 73rd AS IF THEY ARE NON-MUSLIM.

Same was happened when Jews were divided into 72 sects & deviated from true path. Not only they rejected their Messiah but they also termed him & his followers i.e 73 Jamat as Kafir & heretic.

Watch Amazing similarities {watch?v=HbMO_zWp_lo}

[daielallah]

@B0018590 : We cannot think of discarding Prophet Muhammad (saw) as the LAST Prophet. We believe him to be LAST Prophet. What we believe is that Hadhrat Ahmad (as) of Qadian is a "Subordinate Prophet" - Subordinate to Muhammad (saw). These are 72 sects who are discarding clear orders of Quran & Prophet Muhammad (saw) regarding believing in Messiah & Mahdi to come.

Companions of Prophet were use to do financial sacrifices - Alhamdulillah today these r Ahmadi Muslims who r doing the same.

[B0018590]

Question : Why Ahmadies - Qadianis are declared Non-Muslims by All other Muslims. - MTA

Answers : Because they are non-Muslims by default. They have their own prophet - MGAQ, who claimed to be the latest avatar (second coming/ reincarnation) of Lord Krishna. They have their own holy book - Bahrein-e-Ahmadiyya, own pilgrim - Rabwa/ Qadian, own ideology - Jihad, other "metaphorical" confusing beliefs. How can Muslims believe this Joker when even Hindu brothers did not believe him?

[daielallah]

@B0018590 : ONLY Ahmadis r separated from REST of ALL other 72 sects BECAUSE Holy Prophet (saw) had Said "A time will come when there will b 73 sects - ALL of them will be Hell Bound Except ONLY ONE". You & your Mullahs say that ONLY ONE i.e Ahmadis are non-Muslim. But they forget that the VERDICT of Muhammad (saw) is Totally Opposite.

He (saw) had declared that ALL the sects Except ONLY ONE will be Hell bound. Be happy with decision of Mullah - we r happy with VERDICT of Prophet of Allah.

[2islamiminaar]

exellent answer, JazakAllah. May Allah bless you and your work. I know you worked so hard. It is easier to lia than to expose ever and ever those lies.

[IJKBaluch]

ghamidi sahib U have leave pakistan due to your comments about coming of Essa Ibne Maryam (as) & labled U as qadiani so U wants prove your self as enemy of Ahmadiyyat U adopted this wrong way. Now if u r truthful Muslim then admit your fault & appologize.

[mughal1731786]

Proud to be Ahmadi

[ajazahmadshah]

Zindabad Zindabad Ahmadiyya Zindabad



[saifulilm]

Besides that, you are missing the real point Ghamidi saheb has made. His main objection is in the claim of divine guidance and ismah. You can claim to have a similarity with a Prophet, that's not an issue. But if you claim divine guidance and the same ismah, which the prophets had, then it's a serious issue and then it cannot be explained by the asaaleeb of ista'arah, which your mullah was using as his argument.

[daielallah]

@saifulilm : What is special in Islam IF it is also a DEAD religion i.e without divine guidance? Divine guidance is like water. There could be NO physical life without water & there could be NO spiritual life without Divine Guidance.

In Holy Quran Allah has granted His own names Rauf & Rahim to our beloved Prophet (saw). So, how could you say that attaining someones Superior names is against Quran?

[saifulilm]

@daielallah His divine guidance is always there in the form of Quran. The proof, that some further divine guidance will be necessary after Quran must be found in Quran, which is not there. Now don't start misinterpreting those verses about khatam unnabiyyin again.

I know very well the line of your argumentation but you know that yourself, it's all your conjectures. There is nothing in Quran and ahadith in your favour..if there is something, then it is in books of Sufis, and they don't count

[daielallah]

@saifulilm : The Mullahs who have kicked out Ghamdi Sahib from Pakistan also claim to follow same Quran. Shia also claim to follow same Quran. ALL the 73 sects claims to follow the same Quran. So if still DIVINE GUIDANCE IS NOT NEEDED THEN IT WAS NEVER NEEDED BEFORE AS WELL. Today there is much more confusion about Truth than EVER BEFORE because of flow of ALL kinds of Information.

Can u tell me why a layman follow Ghamdi's interpretation of Quran instead of other 71 sects?

[daielallah]

@saifulilm : Jews and Christians also say that THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF MUHAMMAD (saw) Truth in their Books. Same is what you people are saying about Hadhrat Ahmad of Qadian. NO Difference at all. Isn't true that our beloved Prophet (saw) foretold "A time will come when NOTHING will remain of Islam except its NAME and NOTHING will remain of the Quran except its inscription. Their mosques will be full but void of guidance... ." {Mushkat Kitabul Ilm} 

[saifulilm]

The line of argumentation of your Mullah is: Because there is usloob of tashbih and ista'ara in quranic language, miza saheb has all the right to call himself burzuri and zilli nabi. wah wah. lovely, lovely.

The only way we can understand "Arrahim or Arrehman" is, that we know, what these words mean in human context. Should that mean, we should be prepared to accept the claim of another zilli Mirza to be a zilli and buruzi God?

[daielallah]

@saifulilm : If there is no Usloob of Tashbih & Ista'ara in Quran then WHAT IS MEANT BY

1: So you slew them not; but it was ALLAH Who slew them. And thou threwest not when thou didst throw, but it was ALLAH Who threw, 8:17

2: Verily, those who swear allegiance to thee, indeed, swear allegiance to ALLAH. The hand of ALLAH is over their hands. 48:10

[jamalemustafa]

LET YOUR AUDIENCE LISTEN TO HIS FULL MESSAGE INSTEAD OF CROPPING (WHEREVER YOU LIKE) AND LET THEM DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES RATHER THAN INFLUENCE THEM WITH EXTRACTED SPEECHES. THIS IS DISHONESTY ON YOUR PART. I am saying this because I have listened what he said. and this response itself is a LIE. Listen that in FULL. PLEASE!!! DONOT HIDE THE TRUTH. AND REMEMBER THAT EVERYONE WILL BE ANSWERABLE ON THE DAY OF JUDGMENT!!!

I HOPE YOU RECEIVE MY COMMENT THIS TIME

[daielallah]

@jamalemustafa : It is me who is requesting "AssumeZero" (The Person who uploaded Ghamdi Sahib's lecture to allow my responses BUT he is denying. So, these are you people who are afraid of people knowing both sides. It is me who is requesting Ghamdi Sahib's website to Allow my response & I WILL PUT GHAMDI SAHIB'S Complete lecture on my website. But these r you people who are scared to do that.

[jamalemustafa]

so you decided NOT to publish my LAST comments here??? can i ask why???... were they proving something against your opinion? ? very good, it proves something..... dont not believe in Democracy or open debate?...

[daielallah]

@jamalemustafa : I haven't rcvd your last comments. It is me who is requesting Asume0 to put my video as Video Response & I will allow Ghamdi's videos as reply to mine. It is me who is requesting Ghamdi Sahib to allow my videos at his website & I will do the same at my website. But till now there is NO response from either "Asume0" (the person who uploaded Ghamdi's lecture) nor there is reply from Ghamdi Sahib.

[jamalemustafa]

@daielallah The ABOVE EDITED video starts with an allegation to Ghamidi sab, he didnt say to what this is all about, I wrote in my PREVIOUS comment (that COULD NOT been published), that ONE SHOULD NOT EXTRACT SENTENCES FROM DIFFERENT LECTURES AND JOIN THEM TOGETHER TO PROVE SOMETHING THAT GHAMIDI SB DOESNT MEAN TO SAY. HE NEVER SAID THAT ACCORDING MIRZA SB BELIEFS THE MEANINGS ARE NOT "KHATAM" , INSTEAD HE SAID MIRZA SB HIMSELF WROTE THAT THE MEANINGS ARE "KHATAM".

[daielallah]

@jamalemustafa :  It is me who is requesting "AssumeZero" (Person who uploaded Ghamdi's lecture to allow my responses BUT he is denying. So, these are you people who are afraid of people knowing both sides. It is me who is requesting Ghamdi Sahib's website to Allow my response & I WILL PUT GHAMDI SAHIB'S Complete lecture on my website. But these r you people who are scared to do that.

ASK GHAMDI SAHIB TO PUT MY RESPONSE & I WILL PUT HIS COMPLETE LECTURE ON MY SITE. DO IT IF U HAVE COURAGE.

[english1131]

Dead people don't eat so Jesus (as) is dead read below.

Holy Quran Ch. 5 verse 76

The Messiah, son of Mary, was only a Messenger; surely, Messengers like unto him had indeed passed away before him. And his mother was a truthful woman. They both used to eat food. See how We explain the Signs for their good, and see how they are turned away.

[rockson201]

you r doing excellent work.Ive seen your videos......keep it up

[ThePakistani1986]

@ daelilah, please give me the link of this qaseeda ..its realy heart touching tone..masha allah

[daielallah]

@ThePakistani1986 :

watch?v=IohCByd7lF0

[ThePakistani1986]

masha allah bohat he informative video hay, choonkay ahmadi ahbab be ghamidi sb ko aik liberal aalim samjhtay hain iss liye in ke iss ilzam ka jawab ahmdion ki apni information keliye zaroori thaa, ta ke hamaray jaisay kamzor ilm rakhnay walon ke dilon main koi weham dakhil na ho sakay, allah aap ko jaza de.amin

[Luqmanb04]

MERA KHYAL HAI KAI GAMDI SAHAB NAI PAKISTAN MAIN NAMOUSAI RISALAT PAR JO BAYAN DIA THA US KI WAJAH SAI UN KI MAQBULIAT KAM HO GAI THE... kiun kai pakistan main namousai risalat ki saza allah nahi balki insan daite hain qurani talim kai ulat ....

khar gamdi sahab nai jahan sai yah hawala akhaz kia hai woh us kai mutabik hi to bolaingai ...un ka kasoor nahi ..jamaat kai khilaf zahar hi bahut ugla gaya hai ...bahut bahut shukriyya is kadar informative vedio kai lia ...

[attauls]

very informative. i am waiting for next episode

[PROUD2BAHMADI]

Nice Video and nice reply specially good explanation of Baroozi