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  • But I like my nostalgia blinders, nostalgia blinders is what keeps the legacy of old video games alive.

  • Wait where is Halo?

  • I was expecting LoZOoT at the number one spot. It's not a bad game, but Majora's Mask was far superior.

  • zomg Jon went all out on FF8 i liked it, its not my favourite FF (the series ended at FF9 all the other ones are garbage), the magic system is kinda off at first but once you get used to i its pretty awsome and complex, i guess its one of those games that the more you play the more you like it. And thanks fof posting this video :)

  • One very extremely underrated game, The Darkness.

  • wow, for a second i though he was going to put brawl on there! thank god he didn't! why deos everyone think melee is better! brawl is better in every way!

  • Jon, i don't see why you'd try to get rid of this video. so what if no one likes it, just you talking and being funny makes me happy

  • TP is my 2nd favortie zelda game acause iss not be'er den Marjories Maks

  • I agree with him; A link to the past is not that great. It's good, but not great. (Ocarina of time on the other hand is the shit)

  • mass effect is VERY overrated

  • Link's Awakening is still my favorite xP

  • two very underatded games:

    super mario sunshine (which is one of the best games for the game cube in my opinion)

    twilight princess (who cares if they tried to make it dark, its fun)

  • @lbns2 Twilight Princess was no more dark than any of the previous games. It had some gravitas, sure, but certainly wasn't very dark.

  • @DemonScoot It was darker in the sense that the game was visually dark. Looks like someone went nuts with the desaturation tool. Still was a rather fun game though.

  • @DemonScoot unlike MM

  • @lbns2 twilight princess wasn't very good in a gameplay standard. the game was too easy, hyrule was too big and lifeless, and the gameplay was bland. I played BOTH versions of TP and i 100% the wii version. and i say that there are too many sidequests involving finding a shit ton of things! Its not a bad zelda game in anyway just not as good as the other 3d titles

  • i cant believe Jon didnt mention the COD series

  • @caseyandholly123 Modern Warfare 2 is the only overrated CoD game

  • To me, Link to the Past and Ocarina of Time pretty much have the same story structure. Link to the Past did it first and had more of an effect on me, so I prefer re-living that game. Does that make it "better"? I honestly don't know.

  • i think ocarina of time is incredibly overrated

  • Rape is overrated

  • I can see why he didn't reupload this on his channel, it's so controversial! Still, I respect his opinion, thanks for uploading his work :)

  • I think Air Hockey is better than Tennis

  • Heres my list:

    5. Call of Duty

    4. Call of Duty

    3. Call of Duty

    2. Call of Duty

    1. Call of Duty

  • nope brawl is the best twilight princess is also great

  • Why do people hate Twilight Princess? It was Awesome!...on the Wii

  • @sonicsaiyan07 Actually, the GC version was better because that's what it was made for.

  • I think the original Sonic is overrated cuz the sequels did better...except for CD. CD is overrated cuz 2,3, and Knuckles were better. Not to mention, the Spin Dash sucked, and it was Amy's debut(Screw HER!). Screwattack made it the Top Best Sonic game...AND LEFT ADVENTURE 2 OUT(at least it was on the best Dreamcast games list)

  • idk why jon would remove this he gave perfectly good reasons i felt the same way when he talked about L4D2 FF8 FO3 and fable :/

  • I can kind of see why this was removed. Not because of his opinion, but because it was hateful, he rarely said much out of "It's not that good" or "_____ is better", and it feels like it almost made solely to piss off fanboys. For example, he says that Link to the Past's gameplay isn't as good as Ocarina of TIme, and says several times that every 3D Zelda is better. Care to EXPLAIN your thoughts on that? Just saying that doesn't get a point across.

  • @Pocketim thats why its the top ten over rated game and funny thing is some of those game are in his top 20 favs

  • I hate Link to the Past, and Link's Awakening to be honest. The game gives you absouloutley no prompt of what to do next! I boight ALTTP on Virtual Console 2 years ago and to this day can't figure out how to open the second dungeon because I'm too stubborn to look st a walkthrough. And also, they couldn't even get Link's hair right.

  • @JuLeDoS You're acting like the original Legend of Zelda on the NES wasn't the same exact way.

  • @JuLeDoS well, some people like that sort of challenge. others picked up oot and tapped up-c to have navi help.

  • I agree with everything except Fallout 3.

  • The Jon Tron show is one of my favorite video game related shows (all time being The Spoony Experiment), but what the hell was Jon thinking when he put Fable on that list?

    I wouldn't mind, Fable wasn't as great as people made it out to be, but he didn't even give out legitimate reasons as to why it sucks. Not only that, be he also said fuck all of the games Peter Molykneux has ever made...so does that include Populous, Theme Park, Dungeon Keeper, Syndicate, Magic Carpet, and Power Monger? 

  • @rebirthangel I WONDER WHY IT WAS REMOVED? Oh yeah... People like you can't stop bitching over an opinion.

  • I don't like how he said the L4D series was overrated only because he doesn't really like it and that the zombies aren't generic george Ramero zombies. And also I'm pretty sure L4D2 had a giant online boycott against it.

  • well at least N64 goldeneye was somewhat original because i played the demo for the new one and i thought i was playing CoD but i guess it was to be expected because look at the developers and i gotta admit when i saw the developers logos i said why even bother playing i know what it's gona play like.

  • holy hell.. number one. :(

  • thanks for the upload mate

  • I always thought OOT was average

  • I just wanna say, that saying Fable is overrated just because they anticipated to be able to program things into the game and told some people how they thought how awesome it's gonna be doesn't make it a bad game. Think about this. The elder scrolls games. FUCKING SKYRIM! TES were compared to Fable since Morrowind for fuck sakes! Not to mention they're perfectly fit into their time periods (except the first one. that one made me want to shoot myself)

  • Thanks for uploading this.

  • I can see why JonTron deleted this. Lol

  • saying things are overrated is overrated

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  • mediocre shooters? Oh you mean Call of Duty... That stuff never gets any better. And it needs to... BADLY!

  • For #2, I threw my laptop.

    For #1, I dropped my laptop, and used a hammer to destroy it.

  • I recently got into Zelda, so nostalgia isn't something I can factor into opinions on them. The only reason Majora's Mask is my favorite is because it was the first one I finished. I have played A Link to the Past far enough to tell that it doesn't deserve all the credit. I thought it may just be that I was used to the more modern games, but I couldn't get into the game play after MM. I think people give it so much credit because the graphics and game play were a huge step up from the first two.

  • compleatly agree with l4d

  • to tell you the truth i liked shadow the hedgehog more than any other sonic game :/

    4)final fantasy 9 > final fantasy 7 > piece of sh*t = final fantasy 8

    3)Never acctualy liked metroid , don't know why sooooo many ppl like it

    2)Then : AWESOME Now:FAIL (and i would really not play MW2 as it really sucks but i wouldnt play golden eye , would rather play FF dirge of cerberus)

    1)not a bad game but FOR SURE not the best one , acctualy not worth the things ppl say about it

  • @LordAizen100 its a shame that Final fantasy 9 has a final boss that appears from nowhere

  • @GreenSpyro thats the ONLY bad part about FF9

  • @LordAizen100 And the overpowered big jelly world.....thing....in the top of the chocobo paradise, dont forget him :D, xD, well at least i hated it xD

  • @GreenSpyro u mean Ozma? ye i kinda hated that thing too . because of it i stopped playing ff9 for like 1 month . after that i decided to beat it and killed it in my first try ._. dont remember how exactly as it was like 6 years ago but i remember that i used Quina. But i dont think ozma was a bad thing , because it was just an optional boss not like the last boss + if u kill ozma u feel like a boss

  • @LordAizen100 Yeah.....i suppose you are right xD, and i think you used quina for an attack he has to do 9999 damage when he.....she.......he....it is in critical

  • @GreenSpyro quina most likely is a shemale monster so its he she and it at the same time , and yes i guess thats what i used .... started playing ff9 again today >.>

  • I just haz to say this ._.

    10)I have played onle AC 1 and i can agree with you , its boring as its the same thing AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN......

    9)Fable , haven't played it for a long time , just for like 4 hours but didn't like it at all.

    8)It's an epic game but yes the ending is f*cking annoying ._. (WHAT WHERE THEY THINKING)

    7)FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT

    6)OMG SOMEONE THAT AGREES WITH ME

    5)I have to say it even though i will get a lot of thumbs down etc , sonic isn't such a great game

  • I'm shocked that Link to the past is on here, I was sure that Ocarina of Time would make it (no offense to fans of that game, it is a tad overrated though)

  • I didn't play Link to the past when I was growing up, and when I finally tried it, it wasnt that great to me, because I have had the pleasure to play other Games, including other Zelda games.

    If its that question of one of the most dearest Zelda games to you, then I salute you, its your favorite, although mine happens to be Links Awakening DX, that's my "growing up with" Zelda, which I find to have more creative dungeons than Link to the past.

  • FF8's probably my favourite, actually, lol. Not mah list, though! :P

  • Halo didn't make this list? Halo should've been number fking 1. No game is more overrated than Halo.

  • @LeetMasterAce Yeah dude. Wtf was up with that?? I thought Halo would definitely be number 1. Its not even on the list

  • @Maddiox3 I know right? You can't go between any two college townhouses or apartments without seeing a group of bros fliput over Halo. Not to mention all the stereotypical 12 yr old shit talkers who do nothing but play it. XP

  • i thought that LTTP was miles ahead of both Majora's Mask and Wind Waker.

  • @checkeredflag90210 Well windwaker was literally about half done. Seriously do you have any idea the number of dungeons that got cut?

  • Man, why did JonTron delete this? I'm actually kind of amazed that I agree 100% with *this whole list*. Except for Zelda 3... which I think is overrated because it's honestly *not* that great a game. When I was a kid, I grew bored with it and traded it in for Lemmings, which I enjoyed more. ;) For me, Zelda 2 is the best of the series due to its innovative RPG elements and extreme difficulty.

    But I digress. All in all, this video is awesome, and should totally still be on NormalBoots!

  • (flame shield ) i did not like LoZ LttP

  • I was all onboard with Jon here... except for Sonic... Every other game I agree COMPLETELY! I rarely hear about sonic anymore, the sonic concept of the old games was GREAT and it should NEVER be given to nintendo!

  • This is Jon Tron? But....its not crazy and drug-ish....

  • So because you didn't like Sonic's style of platforming, they should change it entirely so it will be just like Mario's style? Some of us enjoy Sonic's style, we they shouldn't change it because it's "different". What do you want it to be, a Mario clone? That's boring. I prefer Halo's style of FPS more than CoD's, I don't think CoD should change to be more like Halo.

  • Wow, I can see why he tried to hide this episode. I've never wanted to strangle somebody for an obnoxious opinion until just now.

  • true there are better fps's out there, but that's not going to make people stop playing it; if the game is still fun years after it came out then people will still fuckin' play it.

  • @pungrmn goldeneye, i mean.

  • I agree with the brawl thing

  • I have to agree with hi sentiment on 'Link to the Past'. Even going on a strictly 2-d biased; it was only marginally better than 'Link's Awakening' and outright trumped by 'Minish Cap'.

  • fable 1 was a great time i respectfully disagree

  • *Reads description

    Well that's exactly why I'm here.

  • Heh, I know where he's coming from. I see all the Link to the Past praise as well, and its fanboys seem to think it's literally impossible to find something wrong with it.

    Hell, I wouldn't go so far to even call it a good game like Jon did.

  • I can see why he'd not want this up still.

    Looks like he just picked at a bunch of popular games to be 'different'. Kinda lame, really.

  • You know, your ideas kinda make sense. I don't agree, but I understand why you put them there, which means you did your job right.

  • #10 - Though the AC Franchise is one of my all time favorites, I understand his opinion. Personal opinion. #9 - A little harsh, could have given a reason at least #8 Never played the Fallout games #7 - I love Brawl too. Melee is unplayable to me now that I've played brawl for so long #6 - I personally like L4D even though it's unrealistic #5 - Completely Agree #4 - I despise FF #3 - Gonna have to disagree here. Love Metroid Prime #2 - No opinion #1 - I actually never played it.
  • when i saw zelda pop up on #1, i thought you meant ALL zelda games. my first initial reaction was, "AAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGHHHHHH­HEEEAAARRR!!! YOUR A MONSTER!!!! then you said "link to the past" and i was like, "oh, okay" honestly, i don't like skyward sword. it's just the graphics, they're so, smudgy.

  • I can see why he removed this...

  • I don't like the term nostalgia blind, because frankly it doesn't apply to everyone, first time I played Link to the Past was 2 years ago? and it's one of my top 5 zelda's. Hell I played Zelda II this year and it's my second fav under majora's mask. As for golden eye, I played it when I was younger, but didn;t actually start appriciating it till now, the controls are wierd but it makes it feel different, I just like it for what it is.

  • and i agree with antist0opid COD is overrated for sure. i'll admit COD 4 was pretty fun, but anything after that, just got repetitive. and i didn't know Jon Tron got the hate on for so many games :S like hes pretty funny in his reviews and such but, i think he is too sunk in his ways.

  • Melee is the greatest hands down! that is why actual MLG coverage on the game actual real competitive gamers played the game, i know practically all the amazing gamers of the Melee era. Brawl never really got any major MLG coverage, i think it was in MLG for like 1 or maybe 2 years, but it never mad as much of an impact on gamers as Melee did. AND FFFFFUUUUUCCCCCCCKKKKKKK JONTRON! WHEN I SAW METROID PRIME, I FLIPPED OUT!...and kinda died inside that someone actually hates this game, its amazing!

  • I believe all the Zelda games are overrated they aren't as good as the praise they get I honestly have had more fun playing DK64 and Banjo Kazooie

  • @MonsterHunterSketch When did you last play DK64?

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  • this video was actually pretty good, if you look past the way he kind of tries to piss the fanboys off

  • Ocarina of time is way more overrated

  • I totally agree with link to the past. I honestly think the first zelda better. The combat was made in an almost gridlike way, so you have to figure out a good way to approach an enemy without getting killed. Link to the Past had a rider sword range and ehh...

  • Fr the time Sonic was audibly/graphically better than Mario. And more challenging. It is fast and hectic, but that's what I like about it.

  • I almost stopped watching the video when he said goldeneye, but i was just to curious.

  • @Mrxau1  Have you played Goldeneye lately? It's pretty rough.

  • i agreed 100% but i see why he took it down thanks for the upload for us fans

  • Love the style, editing, and presentation. Great vid too bad he had to take it down :\

  • So JonTron says "You can say that because that's how you feel, but sadly, that's just not true", yet earlier in the video describes his own views as "the truth"...

    You want to know what's REALLY overrated? The word overrated. You can't take two steps on the internet without finding someone whining about how X isn't as good as everyone else says it is. It's like they think everyone one of those individual opinions isn't nearly as valid as their own, just because they're opinion differs.

  • Well... I suppose I either don't agree with the games or I haven't played the games. The one I have the most trouble with is Metroid Prime, at least for the reasons he gave. That game is one of my favorites, and I do indeed think it may be the best Metroid game. ALttP is still my second favorite Zelda, but eh. I understand what he means.

  • @wsfkzheg woops i just saw oot and flipped still link to the past is not overated and didn't like the list but its his opinion

  • I tried reasoning with your list because you put ff8 and lfd2 but then you put oot nope not gonna stand by while people say oot is overated because a third of the fans say BEST GAME EVAR oot will will always be in my top 10 and I absolutely hate when people just want to stand out and trash a masterpiece

  • @segacd32xz That was never said. OoT isn't even on the list. You're confusing it with a Link to the Past. Even if it was, it was mentioned at the beginning of the video that "overrated =/= bad game". Hear better.

  • @segacd32xz OOT, isn't on the list.....

  • I can see why he deleted it. Most people don't seem to understand the difference between "overrated" and "bad game" I think MW2 was the most overrated game ever, but i still don't hate it. He should put this back on his channel.

  • Excuse me but the Half-life series is the #1 SHIT list item of all. Second is: FALLOUT 3.

    Assassin's Creed 2 is a MASTERPIECE though.

  • can i add skyrim to the list, or just the elder scrolls series in general?? i mean the games typically look nice, but i find the combat extremely boring, and i always lose interest in the midst of the unneccesary and usually tiresome 100s of hours of side crap

  • Excuse me, but was Final Fantasy VII not home when you made this video?

    When I hear about Final Fantasy or adventure fantasy in general I ALWAYS hear this game mentioned. What's so good about it? Sure I've only played IX myself, but I know the characters from the previous games and Cloud's a ****ing emo, so does people like him because THEY are ****ing emo'es? I am gonna bet my LIFE that IX is better than VII and VIII combined!

  • What, no Mario games? I've got 5 that deserve to be on this list.

  • metroid prime IS supoosed to have a lonely atmospheric feel and the slower gameplay was made for exploration. its not a shooter!!! the reasons jon tron listed as him not liking it are the reasons people consider it to be amazing! he even said it in the beggining that he was never too fond of the metroid series. super metroid being considered the best is like u said about golden eye and link to the past. there are other games that play better and its a nostalgia thing. prime wasnt overated.

  • I can understand a lot of this, although many of these games are never spoken of anymore, at least not where I am. I personally love Final Fantasy VIII, but I agree it's not the best in the series. As for 007, I agree it's very overrated. It's good, don't get me wrong, but I think so many people talk about it so greatly because of nostalgia. Babby's first FPS, anyone?

  • Sonic's rating I don't understand. I almost never hear anything about sonic games anymore, let alone the first one. I do understand the rest and completely agree, ESPECIALLY FUCKING LINK TO THE PAST.

  • I REAAALLY expected Reach to be here and I have reasons; Class systems, fall damage, nerfing the pistol, the weapons (Plasma launch = do not want) among other things. It was made for the people who griped about minor things in a big way, and for that, I dont think its better than its previous titles.

  • where dose all this hate for Twilight princess come from? i loved that game.

  • @sintheious Every current Zelda game gets unreasonable hate thrown at it until the next one comes out, to which everyone will then hold it to high regards. For example, when Windwaker came out, people said it sucked, was terrible, and was too far a departure from the series. The Twilight Princess came out, and everyone turned around and said they loved WW, while heaping vitriol on TP. The same thing happened with Skyward Sword.

  • @DemonScoot Yeah, people won't get rid of their hatred of Skyward Sword, even 2 months after it's release.

    I'm looking at you, Compton!

  • @DemonScoot I agree aside from the Skyward Sword part. I don't know what you were smoking but everyone and their decomposing grandmother had nothing but good to say about that game and still do. It was the first in a while to break that chain, though.

  • @DemonScoot The games are rarely ever bad... but they're rarely ever, well, something new.

  • @DemonScoot But legit, Skyward Sword has a lot of problem.

  • @sintheious so did i

  • LoZ is just overrated in general, especially Ocarina of Time... I never liked that game as a kid and I still don't now. *hides from gunfire*

  • melee is bettah then brawl!!!!

  • i never hear anybody talking about minish cap? i've played pretty much every zelda game till the end and honestly minish cap is like my 3rd next to wind waker and majoras mask

    personally i think minish cap improved on everything in link to the past, but i never see it discussed as such

  • I do agree that Metroid Prime is overrated, because it does have too much backtracking, and gets monotonous. But no, I think Goldeneye deserves all the praise it gets. It's AWESOME

  • Brawl has better gameplay? So It's better because it's floatier, has slower pacing, has that stupid tripping thing, and is far less technical than Melee? Yeah, logic right there.

  • Totally right on the numbers 1 - 3!

  • remember kids "Overrated Games" no "shitty games".

  • When he mentioned Fable, that managed to tick me off more than some of the other games on the list. I'm not trying to say Fable is a good game by today's standards, but I still like it more than its successors, if you can call them that. I just thought that he should've refined the choice to maybe Fable II or III, but it's his opinion if he wants to heap the entire franchise in there. I just think that Fable doesn't get enough praise nowadays to warrant an over rated status.

  • Link to the Past is one of my favorite games of all time, I can not tell you how much I fucking love that game... I ain't even mad :)

  • ...I'm annoyed that I know you're right...

  • I don't believe anyone ever said that the N64 SMB is better than melee

  • When I saw goldeye, I heard a riot, when I saw LTTP, i heard war :S

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  • Wow what a bad list, now i know why it was erased. I just hope that jon changed his mind on some of these games...

  • holy shit .. he went there..

  • I agree with the number one pick. I do love the game, it's a classic and legendary to most, if not all. Is it better than OoT, Wind Waker, Majora's Mask, or Twilight Princess? Well, Twilight Princess, yes, but the rest? No.

  • Fable is over rated. Although I did enjoy Fable 1 & 2, Fable one is still a favorite of mine.

  • Lol you forgot Halo.

    And though I totally agree with everything he said on this list. I don't know why he doesn't like Metroid Prime. I mean I seem to share all his opinions so I'm just racking my brain wondering how the hell he didn't like Metroid Prime. That game really was awesome.

  • @sKaYj2 he didnt say he didnt like it, he just thinks its overrated

  • @sKaYj2 00:36

    He doesn't hate the games on this list, just thinks they shouldn't be praised as uch as they are today.

  • no cod?

  • I'm a little confused as to how none of the CoD games made the list.

  • @antist0opid What if he likes them, hmmmmm???

  • @soopahsawneck he said he liked most of the games on the list, but that doesn't change the fact that Cod is overrated.

  • @antist0opid At least it's fanboys don't dislike and/or troll on every video related to BF3, thumbs up every comment supporting MW3, and be Nazis to people who like BF3. (If you haven't noticed i'm talking about BF3 fanboys like this guy.)

  • @antist0opid

    because EVERYONE knows those are overrated.

  • @antist0opid If I could vote this comment up multiple times, I would vote up until my laptop becomes obsolete.

  • I almost got upset at number 1 thinking it was orcarina of time

  • This should be renamed "Top Ten 'I Don't Understand Why Other People Like These Games So They Must Be Overrated' Games."

  • Pitchfork? Check :p its your list not mine but I can agree with you Jon

  • All I can say is, A to the men for the Sonic rant.

  • i agree with goldeneye is over rated but goldeneye(wii) is underrated

  • What the shit?

    The ORIGINAL MASS EFFECT, BETTER THAN FALLOUT 3?

    You're shitting me, I have both and I Know definitely which one is more enjoyable and better to play generally and which one I got the most out of, mass effect 2 is nothing short of fucking mindstopping but really, that "fucking game" has some of the worst fucking combat I've ever played, Ok not all the characters were interesting and it was annoying not having an actual voice at times but You can't really go and say ME > Fallout 3

  • I can understand why Jon would take this down. I'm all for hearing someones opinions, but Jon doesn't express his very well. He states his opinions more like a fact then anything. Sure, he did say in a few spots it is based purely off of opinion, but he went straight to "facts" again.

    Obviously, hes more professional now, and this was his first top ten, so its forgivable.

  • I agree with all of this except for when he said sonc was dead for 15 years I would say he was dead from shadow the hedghog untill sonic colors with one or two exceptions ( sonic atsr and the rush games)

  • Just to clarify, he implied that everyone who likes these games is just wearing nostalgia goggles.

  • This video fills me with rage, not just because of your choices, but because you act like you're the one who's right.

  • I like Goldeneye wii/ reloaded, not sure what it is. Probably somthing to do with the fact its 007.

    Luckily for you im mature and can realize the game is crap and overrated. but I like it anyway.

  • thanks for putting this vido i wanted to see why it was apparently so bad

  • i guess i can see why he wouldnt want this on his site

  • Why did he remove this from his own list?... I don't get it?.. Afraid of flaming?

    Damn, come on! I loose my respect for him >_>

  • Call of duty is not overrated. You know why? Because half of the people who talk about it say its horrible. How can it be overrated when so many people hate it? I have been with the franchise since call of duty 2 (not modern warfare 2) and I hate what activision has done to such a solid game. They milked it to the point of mw3 being an overpriced expansion pack to mw2. Still, its not overrated. A series with this much hate can't be, so quit complaining that COD isn't on here.

  • wheres modern warfare

  • who thinks sonic shoudn't be on this list cause he made a come back

  • Do you have like a mod on l4d2 because i don't recall the characters holding their guns like that

  • How is Call of Duty not on this list?

  • This kid's opinions on older games are pretty much worthless. He said he was 7 or 8 when Goldeneye came out, lol. He should stick with reviewing games that he had the cognitive capacity to understand when they were released. I do agree that Goldeneye is severely overrated though, I was playing 32 player Quake1 Team Fortress when that game came out. Also, FF9 is more overrated than FF8, and OoT is the most overrated Zelda game BY FAR.

  • @cycopl Yup. 21 years old is totally a kid. Retard.