Gen Zia ul haq on 'Iran-Iraq war' and 'Afghan Jihad'

[Ajaz381]

My Favourite personality a great leader



[MaoistLeninistMarx]

Death to Zia-haq!!!!

Soviet Union and Iraq were correct!!!

[nilo723]

@MaoistLeninistMarx He is already dead you idiot!!

[justicepartyuk]

It will be computers who will push nuclear button, mankind will not fire a bullet to start world war 3.Computers are programmed to launch nuclear weapons on warning, early warning satellite are brain of the computers & not human.

[waqasayub22]

MR AK 47 BY THE WAY HE GAVE US MQM AND AFGAN DRUGS ADDICTS AND SPOIL OU GENERATION.

[imranbacha]

what exactly was happeneing on the road with public and police...?looks like in UK..? what were the people saying..?

[koffeeblak]

I am sorry but another stupid argument from you. If Musharraf brought them to power through NRO then why is sitting in London today? Ding dong? Does that ring any bell to you? lolz :-D - Stop embarrassing yourself now! 8-)

[nilo723]

@koffeeblak You are the most dumb Musharraf loyalist to be out there..Musharraf was set on a power-sharing deal with PPP..He wanted to remain President and let PPP have their Prime Minister..This is why he gave the NRO in the first place..Whereas Zardari had his own plans..

But Musharraf's grand scheme couldn't fit in since he had become the most hated person in Pakistan for his brutal crack-down on protesters..Imagine even arresting Imran Khan and Hameed Gul who didn't even do anything violent

[nilo723]

An eye-opener for Musharraf lovers..

/watch?v=1MaM4XOksAQ

[koffeeblak]

The 3 best economic periods for Pakistan were under:

1. GENERAL Ayub Khan

2. GENERAL Pervez Musharaf

3. GENERAL Zia ul Haq

We may have our differences with them and may call them dictators but Pakistan's economic history and statistics tell an absolutely different story which no one can deny.

p.s. I personally don't consider them as dictators, had there been just one he would have obliterated the current political lot alongwith their scions and entire families.

[nilo723]

@koffeeblak Musharraf's era was a complete economic bubble..Only a particular class could reap benefits of the economic aid whereas the masses lived in poverty..This was one of the reasons why only he was overthrown and kicked out by a popular movement in just 8 years but not Zia & Ayub..

And as history tells us people rise up against dictators as a whole only when the economic conditions are bad..The reason why Mubarak was overthrown but Abdullah remains is because of the difference in wealth.

[koffeeblak]

@nilo723: Musharraf's economic bubble is THE most over used, misused & worn out argument belted out by Musharraf haters. I am no Musharraf lover either but let us not discredit the man from many good things he did. It amuses me to see people talk like this as if this economic bubble was waiting for Musharraf's departure to burst into nothingness? How intelligent we are as people, we find a scapegoat & absolve ourselves from our own follies & failures. How convenient you see 8-).

WAKE UP!

[nilo723]

@koffeeblak LOL! It burst well before he was kicked out..Thats why people came to the streets in the first place..

If the economic conditions were good then people wouldn't be joining a movement for restoring some CJ just because he stood up to Musharraf..

There is only point on which Musharraf should have been credited, it was giving freedom to media like in all developed countries..But unfortunately he clobbered it down himself..Once a dictator, always a dictator!!

[koffeeblak]

@nilo723: What people you are talking about? The ones that are killing their children and comitting suicide at an astounding rate today? And you thing people came out because of economic woes? :-) Wow! You must be living out of Pakistan 8-) - Okay YOU tell me? Did people really come out? Why aren't they coming out anymore? I am sure you won't disagree that today's economic woes are ten times worse? And tell me one more thing, you really think the current wave of revolutions is genuine? 8-)

[nilo723]

@koffeeblak People came out yesterday with Imran Khan..And they will indeed come out again when the time come and they see no hope like in Musharraf era..Right now atleast the SC seems to be working for change and there is some hope of a genuine election in the near future..

Regarding revolutions, Egypt and Tunisia were genuine, but wikileaks have confirmed that Libya, Syria and Iran have been funded by the CIA to bring regime change..

[koffeeblak]

@nilo723: Your understanding of politics is too weak & your intellect is wearing thin. Justice sahab chanted the slogan for 'Missing Persons' WHAT HAPPENED? Go & ask Amna Janjua, she's still sitting in for husband in front of Supreme Court.

As for revolutions in Egypt & Tunis! LOLZ! Another joke coming out from you! Tunisia has no constitution today, the country is in utter disarray, Egypt today has martial law under Gen. Tantawi & Wikileaks is CIA staged :p What world you're living in fool?

[nilo723]

@koffeeblak You are an idiot if you think everything will turn good with one blink of the eye..Musharraf couldn't do anything in 8 years and you expect Egypt to do it within few months..

This is just start of the revolution and wait till genuine democracy comes into place and brings in leaders like Erdogan, Mahathir, Ahmadinejad and Imran Khan..

[koffeeblak]

@nilo723: For your history reference, well ma'am/sir you've got go through it again. 'People Rise Up' is a misguided notion that makes people to believe that they are 'empowered'. Let me tell you, Musharraf went as a result of a 'regime change' carried out on the wheels of lawyer's (so-called) movement, see it for yourself, results are right in front of your eyes. If economic condition was the reason then where are they now? Aitezaz Ahsan, Ali Kurd sahab, Chaudhary sahab? Is it any better today?

[nilo723]

@koffeeblak Well, the politicians went back on all their promises..People genuinely believed that they would bring a change but in his final gift to Pakistan Musharraf gave NRO to the most corrupt people and helped them to come to power..

Besides only 40% came out to vote for the already rigged elections and out of them 44% votes were bogus..Musharraf could have atleast updated the voting lists according to NADRA if he was sincere..

But this time things have changed..Now Imran Khan will win!

[koffeeblak]

@nilo723: Politicians went back on their promises? Really? Now you realized it? Hum tau kehte thay bhaee magar koi sunta hi nahi tha 8-) - NRO was a mistake yes, in fact, he's joining the Chaudharies in the first place was his biggest mistake, he shouldn't have done that. But you see, still politicians reputations brought him down not his. And let me tell you, people allowed NRO on us, people are the greatest NRO lovers out there. They voted for the entire list in NRO and proved Musharraf right!

[nilo723]

You can dig your head in mud and refuse to listen! But didn't you just read that only 40% came out to vote for the already rigged elections and out of them 44% votes were bogus..Musharraf could have atleast updated the voting lists according to NADRA if he was sincere for his twin elections of 2002 and 2008..

People didn't vote in this govt, they were brought to power by Musharraf's NRO..If your lovey-dovey was so stupid to be duped by Chaudhries, then he is no better then the voters!! lolzz

[koffeeblak]

@nilo723: You dumb head what did I say? 8-) - 80 million were registerd voters, around 30 million came out to vote and out of them and out of those 30 million around 13 million were fake, and 99% of those fake voters were registered on old NICs and not the new ones? Stop fishing around you fool, its Election Comission's job they did what they had to do. Had the voters list made according to CNICs the list would have been updated by itself. Your politicians went against it not Musharraf!

[nilo723]

@koffeeblak Musharraf himself staged his 2002 elections on the old lists..And he never made any effort to update the lists for the next 5 years..Nawaz and Zardari were themselves beneficiaries of the old lists..

You seem to be living in fool's paradise trying to defend all of Musharraf's crimes one by one..People like you are morons who think either my way or the highway..

The SC was itself blocked by Musharraf, then PPP and now PML too..The only politician people trust today is Imran Khan..

[koffeeblak]

@nilo723: See political insight & intellect of this nation, they approved NRO by going to polls so why complaining now? 8-). As for voters list, Musharraf made NADRA what else you need? When election comission said that votes will be casted only on CNICs the entire political lot created a bedlam that this is the 'death of democracy' & they pressurised the EC to change the rules & so the old NICs were also allowed. All these fraudulent votes are based on old NICs now blame Mushy for that too :-)?

[nilo723]

@koffeeblak See political insight of Musharraf to be duped by Chaudhries into giving NRO as he says himself..Although he obviously is lying since it was his own idea to get a power-sharing deal with Benazir..

But anyways, it seems Musharraf is no better than the voters you talk about!! lolzz

[UmarKhabeesKutta]

@koffeeblak really? Pakistan looks like the same old smelly derelict junk yard everytime i have the misfortune of visiting

[trango786]

@UmarKhabeesKutta .... then I would request you dont visit us anymore. we are very well without the likes of you. thank you.

[forestinfullbloom]

Pakistan is reaping the "benefits" of Zia Ul Haq's vision today. LOLx.

If tomorrow pakistan breaks into pieces, it'll be thanks to Zia ul-haq.

Read the writing on the wall, Pakistan is history, it's going to break into pieces. pushtun, baloch, shia, sunni, punjabi etc etc.

Hilarious!

[nilo723]

@forestinfullbloom You fanatic hindus should mind your own business..Stop stalking on Muslim videos not even related to you morons..

Get lost!! Shussshhh!! Let all peaceful hindus and muslims live in harmony you Bajrang Dal monkeys!!

[ToiletProjectIndia]

@nilo723

Zia was worst thing that could happen to Pakistan, sad to know he still has some fans. While Zia was station Commander in Multan he stole some expensive watch from store that came with very sensitive equipment. The officer who replaced him found out that the watch was missing and asked him to return the watch or pay the money. Zia was in Jordan at that time busy killing Palestinians for the King and this story is well documented.

[nilo723]

Gen Zia was not perfect, but he was among the best rulers Pakistan has had after the death of LA Khan..

In his days Pakistan was prospering in terms of economy, and had a major say in international politics..The only thing for which he is blamed today is giving birth to jihadi sentiment although the fact is never had Pakistan experienced any suicide bombings until Musharraf ordered military operations and drone attacks on Waziristan..

Besides the first jihad was launched by Jinnah himself..

[ToiletProjectIndia]

@nilo723

best economy??? because pakistan was receiving American and saudi aid for being partner in their game plan to give Russians their Vietnam??? He was illegal, illegitimate usurper of power who deserved to be hanged til death but people of pakistan have no tradition to stand up against such rulers, so with American help he survived until he was killed.

LOL @ pak had major say in International politics just as would the American dog Musharaff would claim.

Give me break please!

Peace

[nilo723]

@ToiletProjectIndia I didn't say best economy, i said it was prospering..Even Imran Khan has acknowledged that in those days when he traveled to India it seemed like a 3rd world country in comparison..

Gen Zia was the one who protected the nuclear program in 1984 from Israel and Indian attacks..If he was a stooge like Musharraf, he would have certainly compromised it just to stay in power..

The Afghan jihad was a necessity, and don't forget Pakistan representing all Muslims at the UN..

[ToiletProjectIndia]

@nilo723

Yeah it may have seemed to an untrained eye that Pakistan was prospering on American and Saudi aid also with sectarian, ethnic violence and drugs. Lol @ Imran khan he is now trying to bring back Raymond Davis when he is gone and enjoying long vacations in US , he talks well on TV but that is it. . If pakistan has to represent Muslim world then I have no hope for muslims, sorry to say that LOL

If a country like Iran represents, then fine.

Well, to cut short, nothing is as it seems

[nilo723]

Brother i think you should read a comment at least 3 times to understand it before replying..

I said the economy was prospering, nothing else..Regarding the allegations laid on him of spreading militant sentiment of jihad and sectarianism, nothing of that ever happened in his days..Whatever happened later on is the fault of the successive govts who didn't disarm the groups after the war was over..

Anyways, the Iranian govt is sincere but still it is a mismanaged country..

[ToiletProjectIndia]

@nilo723

My only allegations against Zia is that he used military to overthrow an elected Gov and then later murdered the Prime minister by using corrupt shameless judges. he deserved to be put to death for violating the constitution.

[nilo723]

Well, as per the Constitution he should have been..

But what he did at that time was in the best interests of the people..Bhutto had rigged the elections and was set to become an uncrowned king of Pakistan..If he was sincere to democracy he would have handed over the political party to his wife, rather he would have allowed some elected representative to come up like Jinnah did..

Bhutto was a good ruler too, but he did commit political assassinations..And you should see Zia's funeral video..

[ToiletProjectIndia]

@nilo723

Well lets agree to disagree on this, I am no fan of any personality but there are people of some particular character that I choose to hate and ignore and Zia is one such. Bhutto had legitimacy through votes and popular support.

[nimishah100]

May he rot in hell! He is the one responsible for all the troubles in Pakistan, Afghanistan and around the world. He was an American puppet - a dictator who served the Wahbies and brought terrorism to Pakistan and the world. Anyone who still thinks that he did Pakistan or Islam any good is an absolute idiot.

[Nam691]

he was great...Rip

[shiasmortalenemy]

Great Man, Great Muslim, All he did will be widely supported by Muslims, Non-Muslims will always reject his Pure Islamic Ideological Plans

[nilo723]

@shiasmortalenemy But he did hang ZA Bhutto which was absolutely wrong..

Plus, he refused to give up power even after promising many times..And we know what Islam says about people who go back on their promises..

Anyways, his work was always beneficial for Pakistan and in his time Pakistan had become a regional superpower..Now Musharraf had made a mess of it and these people blame it on Zia's policies 30 years ago..

[IMnotSAS]

@nilo723

white boy

[shahjahaAn]

@nilo723 its easy to blame. Gen. Zia a great man, in fact the best leader to date for pakistan. I mean Pakistan is supposed to be an Islamic state. lol, more like Randi State now. Lead by a donkey. Zia lead by Islam and banned non-islamic things, that is the way forward. If you let go of the rope of Quran / Sunnah you will fall. PERIOD!!

[nilo723]

@shahjahaAn Well, he did promise elections in 90 days when he took over, but then backed off and snatched power for himself..

And we know what Islam says about those who go back on their words..

[shahjahaAn]

@nilo723 Why would anyone want to step down and let the American Bhuttos rule? their philosophy only suits the few rich. But alhamdulilah he is a shaheed - since he was in power and implementing islam as the divine rule for his people. Unlike Benazir who was there to divide islam and politics - anywyas can a lady every rule.

[blacklight019]

@shahjahaAn zia;s father was a mullah....he himself was a fanatic and a coward....thank god that bastard is dead....

[factofile]

@blacklight019 and this coming from a person who lives in Canada?...well you have the USA to save your arses...pussies.....

[islamicjihaduk]

@nilo723 haha that dirty bhutto and that family have been robbing pakistan for years every bhutto should have been hanged even zadari should be hanged

[GreaterPakistan]

One of my favorite General in Pakistan history. we salute him,PAKISTAN ZINDABAD

[leotakesleo]

haha...Kanjeri aurat ka bacha Kiyani is now licking Angraiz's butt....!!!

[AsadKhanCR]

nilo723 - Zia was a lanat for Pakistan. He will go down in Pakistan's history as the worst to ever rule Pakistan. The damage he did to the fabric of Pakistan is very deep. He will be even beneath Yahya Khan. If Russia had not invaded Afghanistan, Zia would not have lasted that long. The Western countries figured out he was a chump and would be easy to manipulate so they can use Pak to help them fight the Russians. He was the one who created the madrassas that are producing the Talibans

[nilo723]

@AsadKhanCR Ok..Kid Zia is the man because of whom Pakistan has nukes today..This very same chump was the one who threatened israel with full-scale war if Kahuta was attacked..

He took money from the West for something he would have been doing on his own..After every war, there are consequences which need to be controlled..And Pakistan need a strong leader to deal with them..This is why the enemies killed Zia and they knew then a corrupt Benazir wasn't capable, neither was Nawaz later on..

[Naiik1]

@nilo723 I hve one rule who ever did anything good to pakistan will be assassinated

look at benazir as long he was puppet of america she survived and the day she stand for pakistan she was assassinated.

[alihammadshah]

@Angles786 Zia was good man but he was a gandoo like you.

[Angles786]

@alihammadshah Your a lund sucking gandoo u look like a tatti in you picture you know that

[Yaminmaher]

I have never seen a person like him in PAK politician and Army , he was really brave one , who took the right decision at the right time when people needed it . I like and salute you Mr Zia ul Haq . A sincere Pakistani can understand that how America and Indian agencies are involved to create conflicts among Muslim . Today the same bhutto families are looting this country from both hands . we are unfortunate nation at the moment where we cast vote for nothing.

[7864111]

In pakistan he created big divide among muslims. making them fight ..the biggest hypocrite of recent times talking..........

[nilo723]

There was no fighting in Pakistan until his days..Infact there were absolutely no suicide bombings in Pakistan before 2004, before Musharraf launched the first Waziristan operation..

[YoRker254]

Such a cheesy smile

[kamallism]

من يعرفك يحذو حذوك ومن يجهلك لا يقدر قيمتك

يكفيك فخرا أن يزكيك خير الرجال عبدالله عزام ويكفيك فخرا

أن يغتالك الامركان يا آخر شريف في الرؤساء والملوك

[smartoez]

He looked like a very intelligent and sincere person... this is the first time i have seen him in an interview...

[biztekian726]

i dontknow after the 2blasts happened in karachi yesterday and me @ home thinkin how dis all being carried up, jus chkd the history and came to know abit of zia ul haq,still digging...but wut u have said is wut i believe!..he looks very intelligent,confident and sincere?i dnt knw abt sincerity by readin mixed coments of ppl but..he seems very smart and yes he is aware of situation, check da interview,how clear he is...wil dig more abt him and colect some info...

checkd out his asasination..

[xulphicar]

wow,,,,,,,,,,is deceiving others and making lies to nations is an intelligent sort of work,,,,,,,,he promised elections in 90 days,,,what was his sincerity to hold it,,,,he promises not influence bhutto case but what history shows,,,,,,,he crushed sindhis when they had raises voices against his oppressive regime,,,,,the truth is that he was so mischievous person,,,,,his crimes are uncountable,,,,,,,is this all his intellegence,,,,and sincerity to its nation.

[hosam010172]

@smartoez .. Look it his ugly face..... The biggest hypocrite Pakistanis have ever seen. He betrayed Butto, he swore for holding elections in 90 days but never held elections, then he made Pakistan a pet for Americans in Afghan war just for dollars and invited afghan insurgency. He divided the nation on the basis of religion and sects. He truly died the way he deserved and Allah showed the world what fate the liars and hypocrites meet at the end even in this world.

[redline2311]

we are fighting the war of islam here. shame on you for disregarding the shaheeds of islam in this way. these taliban are backed by all intelligence agencies of the world. and u think that mossad and cia were backing palestinians there rather if u know zia went there just after his long term visit to usa if you know read it carefully. so who was american puppet then and now. all our govts had been pro usa its a fact. but nobody had been able to touch nukes because there r some real guys workin

[nilo723]

yep..this is what America wants..that Pak Army continues to fight in its tribal areas..they are supporting rebel groups in Pakistan..

but who gave CIA the opportunity to jump in? Before 2004, there was not even a single suicide bombing in Pakistan's history, before Musharraf sent in the Army under American pressure to fight Pashtuns who were fighting NATO forces..

the more operations, the more dollars the corrupt leadership gets, and the more hatred grows in tribal areas..

[redline2311]

nilo do you know about black september?

[nilo723]

ofcourse i do..its was something similar to whats happening in Pakistan right now..some Palestinian arabs were challenging the writ of the govt..they were trying to overthrow King Hussein, a man who ruled by ALLAH(swt)'s laws and led his country in two wars against israel for our Palestinian brothers and sisters..

Gen Zia was serving in Jordon, and he did exactly what Hazrat Ali(ra) did with rebels against an Islamic govt, or khawarij..

u should think why Hussein had to make peace later in 98.

[redline2311]

I thought u might have a little open mind about islam u r just conservative nationalist like others. do you know that king hosein family is a puppett family of USA in middle east, i must say not even single one of them is free minded all controlled by american govt. or zionism. look into the reality please did jordan had nukes. what did jordan had then and what did jordan have now its just the same a small country and u r comparing it to something whats happening in pakistan.

[nilo723]

As i said earlier, rebelling against an Islamic govt which rules by Quran and Sunnah and picking up arms is haraam in Islam..be it Jordan or anywhere else..both are khawarij..their punishment is the same as the khawarij in times of Hazrat Ali(ra)..

King Hussein's grandfather was a traitor who back-stabbed the Ottoman Caliph and sided with the British just like Kemal Attaturk..

But Hussein refused to join America's 1st war on Iraq in 1991, fought two wars against israel and ruled by Sharia..

[sixthsabbath]

And the Mujahadeen were not fighting with sticks, get your facts straight, America and other countries INCLUDING Zai-ul-Haq's regime was responsible for funding and providing them weapons in the 80's (Because they were fighting against the Soviets), weapons which they eventually used to subjugate their own people.

And if Zia believed in peace amongst Muslims, can you explain why he was responsible for blasphemy laws? Wait, don't speak, you clearly don't have ANY of your facts straight...

[nilo723]

lol! at u believing in those PPP govt lies!

all these attacks on Pakistan by Pashtuns has only two reasons- drone attacks from which the Pak Air force supports, and Musharraf sending in the Army in the tribal areas to kill those people who were fighting NATO forces and blocking their supplies..

if Zia created this, why wasn't there even single suicide bombing in Pakistan's history before 2004?

Suicide attacks have got nothing to do with Islam, its just another Pashtun tactic for revenge..

[nilo723]

the moment Pakistan govt declares neutrality in the Afghan war rather than supporting America for more aid and dollars, there would be complete peace in Pakistan as far as terrorism is concerned as it was before 2001..

and don't pretend to be a Muslim if u aren't one..and if u are, then stop spreading lies!

[sixthsabbath]

Rest his soul in peace? Do you have any idea that this man laid the bedrock for extremism Islam in Pakistan? It is because of this man that our country is presently in a state of shambles from the extremist point of view. All the bombings, murders of ordinary civilians are thanks to General Zia's entertainment of extremism Islam. Shame on you for making that stupid comment.

[MughalistanSipahi]

Good upload, please upload more of these historical videos.

Thanks.

[enragedben]

Thanks for the video sister. While he did help the Mujahideen which I think is great and encouraged Islam more in Pakistan, unfortunately, I don't think he's that great of a leader. I think he might have used Islam as a tool for his own purposes since he was involved in the Black September event in Jordan, where he helped the Jordanian monarchists suppress Palestinians. He also refused to get involved in the Iraq-Iran war.

[nilo723]

why would any Muslim get involved in the Iran-Iraq war when innocent Muslims were getting slaughtered on both sides? whose side would u want him to take?

Secondly, the Jordanian King Hussein was fighting for the Palestinians back then..he led his country in the 1967 war against israel..if a group of people revolt against a Muslim ruler who rules by the Quran and Sunnah it is Haraam to revolt against him..Zia's acts on Black September were justified to curb the revolt just like Hazrat Ali(ra)..

[enragedben]

Well he doesn't have to militarily help Iran. He can do what North Korea did, give some aid in terms of electricity, food, and things of that nature.The Jordanian King feared that the 70-75% Palestinian population would one day rise up and overthrow him. Monarchies can never be great. If these Jordanian Monarchs are so great, why are they promoting Israel?? If Jordan wants to get respect, it needs to start respecting its Palestinian population.

[nilo723]

In those days in the 60's and 70's, the Jordanian King Hussein certainly respected the Palestinians and even fought full-scale wars against israel..it was perhaps these little back-stabbings by PLO that ultimately led him to make peace with israel in 1998..u have to wonder why the same man did something like that after resisting for half a century?

and NK was proving arms to IRAN too..and many others like US who wanted to inflame the war..Gen Zia believed in peace among Muslims..

[pablojovany]

he said something really important about people fighting with sticks brothers from Palestine,Iraq,Afghanistan, they all are fighting with all they got and they are doing it for their freedom it really makes me proud as a human being to know that people that are fighting the imperial armys even dough they know they do not have the advantage they still fight even if it means death,love and respect for our brothers from the middle east

[soulemotions]

May Allah rest his soul in peace