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  • (suite). consommation où il n'y a plus de différence entre l'homme et la femme, alors que naturellement il y en a,et pas que physique. Personnellement je trouve cela triste qu'on s'éloigne petit à petit des valeurs traditionnelles de la famille avec un homme et une femme, heureusement cela reste majoritaire mais le taux de gays et bi augmentent,c'est que quelque part, la société va mal. Par essence, nous sommes faits l'un pour l'autre(homme-femme),on ne se reproduit pas entre gays,j'suis désolé.

  • La femme et l'homme sont complémentaires, c'est un fait, d'où nos différences. D'ailleurs c'est pour ça que la parité homme femme je n'y crois pas trop, mais bon ça c'est un autre débat.

    Mais aujourd'hui, dans les pays occidentaux, il y a de plus en plus d'homo et de bi, non pas parce qu'il y a plus de tolérence, c'est des conneries ça mais parce qu'on féminise l'homme et on veut mettre la femme au même rang que l'homme au nom de l'égalité.Par conséquent, on se retrouve dans une société de

  • Ce débat n'a pas de sens, la circoncision est une question d'hygiène tous simplement alors arrêter de critiquer. Par ailleurs, pour les homos ou les bi, Dieu à crée l'homme pour la femme et la femme pour l'homme, c'est pourtant pas compliqué. Je trouve sa alarmant de dire que l'homosexualité est une chose normale parce que non elle ne l'ai pas du tout. Je comprend tout à fait le concept mais pour moi c'est désolant, j'espère qu'un bon jour toutes ces personnes trouveront le droit chemin.

  • un témoignage d'un gas qui est circoncis dés sa naissance ne sert à rien , simplement parce qu'il ne sait pas de quoi il parle .

  • ce type de témoignage n'apporte rien au débat. strictement rien.

  • Comment un crétin pareil peut avoir autant de vue? Quelque soit le sujet il raconte de la merde...

  • Sale CONNARD de mutilé du sexe !!!!

  • la circoncision est un acte barbare perso je pense ca ...

  • je suis fiere d'etre musulman et fier d'etre circoncis , dans notre religion c'est une question d'hygiene

  • Si l'homme est universellement conçu ainsi à la naissance qu'y a t il de disgracieux ?

  • @endofscene Thank you for your passion about this issue. It is very important that intact men speak up about this issue. Foreskin is not "extra skin"- as you know, the penis head becomes distorted and pulled without foreskin to give the proper amount of skin when necessary.

    Intact men appreciate sex and foreplay so much more.  The whole sexual experience is so much more relaxed and enriched with intact men.

  • You are obviously ignorant of the fact that secular circumcision began in the USA in the 19th century as an attempt to inhibit masturbation (!) as well as to decrease sexual pleasure. Prior to this time the only peoples who practiced genital mutilations were Jews, Muslims, and various primitive tribes in Africa and Australia.

    I hope you can excuse my numerous comments but I just thought I had to set you straight (well, you know what I mean). Hail Caesar.

  • Um foresking getting in the way of masturbation? Most intact guys can't fathom how cut men Manage to masturbate without a foreskin! The answer is of course "with great difficulty". Often lube is required and a lot of whacking (hence the term 'beating off'). Masturbation (and all sexual activity) is much Easier WITH a foreskin. And why shouldn't it be? It's a natural part of the penis. You might even say that the foreskin is Proof that God endorses masturbation!

  • I would suggest that your fetish or preference for circumcised penises is a result of the fact that you were born and raised in North America (probably the USA) and so, being surrounded by cut dicks and having a cut dick yourself, that is what you are used to and that is what has been wired into your sexual arousal. That is understandable. But your ignorance of foreskin and circumcision as a gay man and a gay man living in France is ridiculous.

  • I think it is obvious that Nature/God rarely makes anything that is intrinsically beautiful. That's why we as humans need to improve upon things. This is especially true of our own bodies. Cosmetic surgery is a godsend! I mean a man-send! Although I do find it strange that all the western art in history contains depictions only of intact boys and men. Michaelangelo even made a point of keeping his David (the famous Jew) "uncircumcised".

  • But as a fellow gay man I must agree with you on one thing - the circumcised penis really is so much more attractive. There is something about amputated organs that I find strangely beautiful - the scar tissue, the discolouration, the rough dry head at the end, and that priceless circumcision scar. I especially love it if there is a lot of scar tissue, skin bridges, chunks out of the glans and hair on the shaft. It really turns me on...

  • This is because, being accute sensory organs, they need to be protected and kept sensitive. Circumcision ablates the most sensitive part of the penis and renders the glans (a biologically internal structure) permanently exposed. This leads to a permanent loss of sensation (because of the excision of thousands of highly sensitive nerve endings) and a gradual reduction in sensation of the glans, which is not as sensitive as the foreskin anyway but becomes even less sensitive due to keratinisation.

  • As for it being "just something more to take care of", I don't even know what that means. Do you think it requires tools and takes like an hour or something? It takes a few seconds every now and then in the shower. It seems to me that you know nothing about circumcision or intact penises, again surprising considering you seem to be a gay man living in France. So here's some education for ya... All accute sensory organs are largely internal in nature, such as the eyes, tongue, and glans.

  • And after you refer to foreskin as extra skin you then say it is unnecessary and just something more to take care of... riiight. Unnecessary for what? If you want normal and complete function of your dick and the whole spectrum of sensation and function that Nature intended then you do actually require a foreskin. It has sexual functions... what being part of the penis and the penis being a sexual organ and all that. As a gay man living in France I can't believe you would be oblivious to this.

  • Also, it was an interesting comparison you chose to make (re: the obese person) considering that you are American :) But FYI foreskin is not "extra skin"; it's Standard Biological Equipment. Your God made it for a reason. I mean you do believe He made man in His image and likeness, right? So in the case of bodily integrity and genital anatomy I'd give your God the benefit of the doubt (as you seem to do on everything else).

  • Riiight... because a fully-functioning intact penis is comparable to an obese person having their stomach stapled? But then I suppose we should not expect sense from a Xian (no offense). And I do feel sorry for you because you are obviously gay and you don't like foreskin and you live in France! Oo la la! If foreskin is not your thang then it was probably a bad idea to move to Europe. But then I suppose we should not expect sense from a Xian (ok a little bit of offense this time :P ).

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  • Il n'y a pas qu'en math que tu es nul pauvre infirme !

  • L'amour entre deux hommes ou deux femmes existe bel et bien. Au delà de la sexualité et de toutes ces images qui vous hante... La sexualité n'est qu'une manière parmi tant d'autres de l'exprimer. Je n'ai pas peur de l'enfer, je n'ai pas peur de ce que je suis. Ma conscience est tranquille de savoir que personne ne souffre par ma faute. Pouvez-vous en dire autant ? Votre amour n'est que haine et mépris. Si votre Dieu est un Dieu de haine et de mépris je préfère grandement aller en enfer.

  • 4ième suite et fin . . .

    Ceci dit, moi je trouve que le pénis entier est très beau.

    Le lien qui va bien (En Anglais, mais google peu traduire) Tapez foreskinrestore sur google ou autre . . .

    Je suis chrétien évangélique. J'aime Jésus, Sa Parole et aussi mon/ma prochain(ne) c'est pourquoi je vous ai écris de cœur à cœur.

    Christophe

  • @pourquoipas68 possible d'avoir le liens ^^ ?

  • 2ième suite . . .

    Je suis en train de tout faire pour essayer de restaurer mon prépuce. Ca fait maintenant 6 mois et je commence à avoir des résultats. Normalement dans 2 ans mon gland devrait être totalement recouvert.

    Suite à venir . . .

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  • La circoncision est une connerie infame de mutilation inutile . C'est comme perdre un doigt et y a des abrutis assez cons pour vanter des abominations pareil , vive le monde de débiles dans lequel on vit ....

  • I do completely agreed with krazycp. I do not think that that foreskin is there uselessly

  • son of bitch , stupid gay

  • i'm homo and i have just done a circomcision, just because my phimosis was becoming really annoying. it will be soon far better for me, i am not religious at all , and i think it's a good thing done. anyway it coulnd't be worse with what i got.

    homosexuality is not against nature it like that and that's all, it's not a choice at all.

  • I agree with you. I like being circumcised cos I think it looks better.

  • looks better?

  • A foreskin serves a purpose and isn't some redundent piece of skin. God put it there for a reason. It actually keeps the glans moist and reduces friction from clothing. During sex it glides back and forth and makes sex more enjoyable to both parties. You may think the foreskin is ugly because its not the norm for you. If you had grown up with one, you would think its beautiful. Circumcision is genital mutilation.

  • @krazycp you are ignare what is this idea that if you got something in your body it means that it is wrong to remove it GOD is for beauty 'god is beautifull and love beauty' God wants us to be healthy you should know that it is the origin for many diseases so why not remove it? you prefer get a desiese? some christians disgust me cause they are ignare learn the ISLAM religion of light science reall values and judaïsm ,Jesus would have shame because of you he deserves abetter PEOPLE

  • Secondement, l'orientation sexuelle d'une personne n'est pas dictée par des mécanismes conscients.

    Je suis heureux de résider dans un pays ou les droits humains sont reconnus. Je ne voit pas le mal à avoir un copain au lieu d'une copine.

    Cela ne m'empêche aucunement d'être une personne bonne et saine d'esprit.

    Tu n'es pas hétéro tu es refoulé...

    Je suis très heureux d'être homosexuel et de vivre ma vie comme je dois la vivre.

  • @0oogabrieloo0 l'orientation sexuelle n'est pas guidée par des mécanismes conscients...donc tu sais pas ce que tu fais? bien sur que c'est conscient car ton choix! tu n'es pas saint d'esprit car tu es contre la nature..mais c'est ton choix...et je constate que la seule réponse que les homos ont est: "tu es un homo refoulé"...pourquoi vouloir voir le monde entier comme des homos? c'est ton problème pas le notre!

  • Je ne suis pas croyant. Je suis gai. Je suis un homme réfléchit et sencé. J'ai des valeurs humaines. je fait du bénévolat. J'aide les autres tous les jours. J'accepte les autres dans leurs différences. Je suis en parfaite santé physique et mentale. Je tient à ma famille, à mes amis. Le fait que je sois gai ou non croyant, ne fait pas de moi quelqu'un de vil ou de malsain. Je suis plus humain que toi.

  • @0oogabrieloo0 Oui mais mon ami,

    La bible et pas moi, dis que les gays ni aucun autre pécheur n'ira au ciel et si Dieu te prend dans ses bras d'amour, c'est vrai il pardonne tous les péchés mais après il faut se détourner de ces péchés. Je sais que ces paroles te sont insupportable mais c'est la VRAIE ET SEUL VERITE. De toute façon, toi et moi savons très bien que ta situation d'homo ne tre plait pas en final, même si tu y trouve une certaine jouissance. Je t'embrasse, By by God Bless You

  • Si tu as des relations avec les deux sexes alors tu es bi, même si tu te revendique hétéro ou homo ! T'es pas obligé de rentrer dans des cases et je trouve cette vidéo stupide ! Aussi je crois que cette vidéo est faite pour influencer. Je vous déconseille de vous inspirer de cette vidéo pour vivre votre vie, faite comme VOUS le ressentez.

  • ont s'en bat les couilles de ce que tu pense baltring

  • U R very funny

  • My dad was Born with out the skin

  • Circumcision is weird... removing part of somebody's genitals is just bizzare. But I agree with the stomach staple analogy - the penis is the only body part with loose floppy skin, and it's unattractive. The penis is just a weird organ. I like being circumcised.

  • Circumcision May Not Impact Sexual Sensation

    ScienceDaily (July 27, 2007) —

    According to a new study published in The Journal of

    Sexual Medicine, sexual sensation in circumcised and uncircumcised men may not be so different after all.

  • The research, performed in the Department of Psychology

    of McGill University in Montreal, consisted of genital sensory testing conducted

    on circumcised and uncircumcised men during states of sexual arousal and non-arousal.

    Results showed that no difference between the two groups was found in sensitivity to

     touch or pain.

  • Circumcision Doesn't Reduce Sexual

    Satisfaction And Performance, Says Study Of 4,500 Men

    ScienceDaily (Jan. 8, 2008) — More than 98 per cent of men who are circumcised can enjoy the

    same levels of sexual satisfaction and performance as men who are not, according to a study

    of nearly 4,500 males published in the January issue of the UK-based urology journal BJU

    International.

  • "A large survey of Tanzanian women netted the vexing conclusion that female circumcision halved their risk of HIV

    infection."

    2005 IAPAC Monthly

  • "Scarifying (female circumcision), appeared to protect women from viral intruders"

    HIV Pathogenesis and Treatment, July 24-27-05

  • Female circumcision was linked to reduced risk of HIV infection in a study presented on international HIV conference in Rio.

  • Your losing weight analogy is a really REEEAAALLLYYYY BAAAADDDD comparison to getting circumcised you foolish little man. Suggesting that the foreskin gets in the way of masturbation is purely mindless, it actually aids the process, 'course you wouldn't know that would you seeing as you don't have an intact penis.

    Anyone watching this video should not listen to this man's pathetic denial of the issues of circumcision.

  • The Lauman study (JAMA. 1997 Apr 2;277(13):1052-7) found that uncircumcised men had an

    increased risk of sexual dysfunction, especially later in life. As an aside, circumcised

    men received more fellatio and masturbated more.

    A recent published study from Australia surveying thousands of men (Int J STD AIDS. 2006

    Aug;17(8):547-54.) found that circumcised men experienced less physical pain during

    intercourse and had fewer difficulties keeping an erection.

  • Female circumcision does not reduce sexual activity

    12:30 24 September 2002

    NewScientist news service

    Emma Young

    "Circumcised women experience sexual arousal and orgasm as frequently as uncircumcised women, according to a study in Nigeria."

  • Circumcision Reduces Risk of Herpes Simplex-2 North American Correspondent, MedPage Today

    Published: February 05, 2008

    BOSTON, -- Circumcision reduced the risk of acquiring herpes simplex-2 (HSV-2) by

    24% in a randomized clinical trial in Africa, a researcher said .

  • From Manners of Welcoming the New Born Child

    by Dr. Yoosuf ibn Abdullah Al-Areefee

    "Female circumcision results in a reduction of infections resulting from microbes gathering under the hood of the clitoris"

    "Attacks of herpes and genital ulcers are less severe and less harmful with women who have been circumcised"

  • Herpes simplex-2 infection has been shown to more than double the risk of HIV infection, but that circumcision has been shown to reduce the risk.

    Note that this study showed that circumcision reduces the risk of getting HSV-2, which may

    help explain the effect of the procedure on HIV acquisition.

  • "Scarifying (female circumcision), appeared to protect women from viral intruders"

    HIV Pathogenesis and Treatment, July 24-27-05

  • American Journal of Epidemiology,

    November 2005 03 November, 2005

    Circumcision reduces chlamydia transmission

    Circumcised men are less likely to transmit Chlamydia trachomatis infections to their female sexual partners as compared to uncircumcised men.

  • "A large survey of Tanzanian women netted the vexing conclusion that female circumcision halved their risk of HIV infection."

    2005 IAPAC Monthly

  • The relationship between male circumcision and C. trachomatis infection in the female

    partner has not been explored earlier. Spanish researchers from the Institut Catala

    d'Oncologia in Barcelona therefore evaluated this relationship among 300 female subjects

    and their male partners enrolled in studies in Colombia, Spain, Brazil, Thailand and the

    Philippines.

  • "Just as surely as foreskin clipping seems a safe bet to cut HIV transmission in men, so the various female circumcision types seem certain to lift transmission risk in women."

    Bertran Auvert, abstract TuOa0402

  • Blood samples from the women were tested for C. trachomatis.

    The overall prevalence of circumcision was 37 percent among the men, ranging from 1.8

    percent in Spain to 92 percent in the Philippines. Women whose partners were circumcised

    were significantly less likely to be infected with C. trachomatis. This was true across

    all five countries.

  • Female Circumcision greatly reduces risk of HIV infection

    "Researchers bent on proving that mutilating female circumcision heightens HIV risk in women could not explain away numbers that argued the opposite."

    3rd IAS Conference on HIV Pathogenesis and Treatment, July 24-27-05, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

  • @Chockles Circumcision: the Great Panacea! Amazing that cutting off part of a male's genitals is so salubrious! Let's do it to females too! Save the world with genital cutting!

  • and infant/child circumcision is wrong. It's mutilating another person's body to satisfy your beliefs or aesthetics without their consent. That is, ispo facto, unethical and immoral.

  • THIS IS WRONG ON SO MANY DIFFERENT LEVELS. You are gay, right? Citing scripture is nonsense. Not owning your identity and living a full life according to it is madness. Please read Dawkins with an open mind.

  • Male Glans (head): 4,000 nerve endings

    Female Clitoris: 8,000 nerve endings

    Male Foreskin: 20,000 nerve endings

    The Male Glans:

    Contains about 4,000 nerve endings, but they are pressure/pain-sensitive, not touch sensitive. These pain-sensitive nerves are called "Free Nerves"

    Male Foreskin:

    Contains about 20,000 nerve endings which are extremely touch sensitive (like the female clitoris). These touch-sensitive nerves are called "Meissner's Corpuscles"

  • Reuters Health Information 2008

    Uncircumcised Men at Risk for HPV Infection of Glans Penis

    April 18, 2008 — Uncircumcised men are at an increased risk for infection with

    human papillomavirus (HPV), including oncogenic types, in the glans/corona of

    the penis, researchers from University of Hawaii in Honolulu report.

    In a multiethnic, predominant

    ly heterosexual study population, 46% of uncircumcised

    men had HPV infection in the glans/corona compared with 29% of circumcised men.

  • The Lauman study (JAMA. 1997 Apr 2;277(13):1052-7) found that uncircumcised men had an

    increased risk of sexual dysfunction, especially later in life. As an aside, circumcised

    men received more fellatio and masturbated more.

    A recent published study from Australia surveying thousands of men (Int J STD AIDS. 2006

    Aug;17(8):547-54.) found that circumcised men experienced less physical pain during

    intercourse and had fewer difficulties keeping an erection.

  • Circumcision Reduces Risk of Herpes Simplex-2 North American Correspondent, MedPage Today

    Published: February 05, 2008 BOSTON, -- Circumcision reduced the risk of acquiring herpes simplex-2 (HSV-2) by

    24% in a randomized clinical trial in Africa, a researcher said here. Herpes simplex-2 infection has been shown to more than double the risk of HIV infection, but that circumcision has been shown to reduce the risk.

  • Note that this study showed that circumcision reduces the risk of getting HSV-2, which may

    help explain the effect of the procedure on HIV acquisition.

  • Another dumbass American, who has never experienced the foreskin and yet thinks he can make an intelligent case for getting rid of it! Lesemeur knows nothing about foreskin function and doesn't even want to find out.

    I like Galatians Galatians 5:12 (New Living Bible):

    I just wish that those troublemakers who want to mutilate you by circumcision would go and get castrated.

    For all his religious zeal, here's a guy who believes God made a design error that should be corrected.

  • How would foreskin hinder masturbation? It aids masturbation...it's called moving it over the glans which is significantly more sensitive when you have a foreskin. I seriously don't get it. I hate giving circ'd guys handjobs...there's nothing to move. It's boring. Bleh. Skin feels amazing. And it's not extra--it's the amount you're born with and it contains 1000s of nerves and nerve-endings, among other things. I could say my labia are extra skin but that's BS!!

  • You are terribly misinformed.

    Intact genitals do not have any "extra skin." You are seriously misinformed if you think having a foreskin hinders masturbation! Watch "Circumcision is Mutilation" here on YouTube for an excellent graphic to help you to understand what the foreskin is.

    You also said you never had a foreskin. Wrong. If you were a normally formed male you did have one before some ignorant, sexually repressed individual cut it off without your consent.

  • Reuters Health Information 2008

    Uncircumcised Men at Risk for HPV Infection of Glans Penis

    April 18, 2008 — Uncircumcised men are at an increased risk for infection with

    human papillomavirus (HPV), including oncogenic types, in the glans/corona of

    the penis, researchers from University of Hawaii in Honolulu report.

    In a multiethnic, predominant

    ly heterosexual study population, 46% of uncircumcised

    men had HPV infection in the glans/corona compared with 29% of circumcised men.

  • Statistics are one thing but loving your son is another. If you teach him to use safer sex practices he is much less likely than your cited studies to avoid all these bad things. Check those stats for yourself. Im not going to let my son go into life uninformed about these things and knowing all the facts, when he is an adult, he can make the choice for himself.

  • @joikee You are obviously just trying to justify your own "circumcised" state. The foreskin is no more unhealthy than any other body part. This neurotic obsession with diseases of the penis is conflated and unhealthy. The penis is a great thing. Use it. Enjoy it. Don't make anatomy into pathology. As far as sex goes, be wise. Sex is a powerful thing and can be abused. Practice safe sex with strangers.

  • @endofscene busy little boy aren't you...pathetic little fella

  • @joikee Thank you :)

  • TORONTO July 2007,(Reuters) - Uncircumcised men receive no more sexual sensation than

    circumcised men, according to a new study that contradicts the widely held belief.

    Researchers from McGill University in Montreal Canada found that circumcised men felt the same amount of sensitivity to touch and pain in various states of sexual arousal

    as those with foreskins.

  • @joikee I can cite studies that show there is a difference. I can also quote men circumcised as adults who say the same. And of course then there is hundreds of years of writings attesting to this as well, including those of Maimonides. And of course we all know that circumcision in the USA began during the 19th century to inhibit masturbation and decrease sexual stimulation.

  • @joikee However, even if none of this were true, there is still no good reason to amputate healthy functional tissue from a baby or child. It's a sick practice only practiced by a twisted peoples. For anyone with eyes to see it is obviously an anti-sexual procedure. There is no other operation removing healthy functional tissue permissable on a baby or child.

  • @joikee Surely it is plain to rational people that if you want to slit your dick you can but you have to be a grown-up. Cutting the genitalia of little girls is illegal in developed western countries. Unfortunately this same basic human right is not afforded baby boys.

  • Circumcision Doesn't Reduce Sexual

    Satisfaction And Performance, Says Study Of 4,500 Men

    ScienceDaily (Jan. 8, 2008) — More than 98 per cent of men who are circumcised can enjoy the

    same levels of sexual satisfaction and performance as men who are not, according to a study

    of nearly 4,500 males published in the January issue of the UK-based urology journal BJU

    International.

  • You would care if you had any understanding of human rights to bodily integrity. Those who respect rights know the decision should be left to the individual unless a medical issue *requires* circumciusion. The foreskin adds "gliding action" and keeps the glans moist and sensitive. The natural penis is "normal". The circumcised penis is a mutilation of what is normal.

    Masturbation with a foreskin is WAY better than without the slack skin to slide over the penis.

    Oh, and there is no god.

  • You don't know much about the intact penis. Have you ever seen an intact penis? The foreskin is not extra skin. The foreskin helps not hinders masturbation. It is said man is made in the image of God. Adam had a foreskin. Does God have a foreskin? If not who circumcised him? God did not make a mistake when he created the foreskin.

    I'm happy you're okay with your penis. I hope you don't force circumcision on your future sons. I hope you realize the foreskin and circ decision belong to them..

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