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@nagasako7 Not only did it copy off fantastic movies like this, but it was done poorly as well. Avatar had a bunch of useless, undeveloped, stereotypical characters. Even the great CGI doesn't save it. I'll take the beautiful animation and storytelling of Miyazaki's films(and Hisaishi's magical score..) over all the hollywood crap being chucked out these days.
@Mudux I agree I found the dub very lacking. And its regarded as one of the best of all time so that's saying stuff. But I find Claire Daines' voice very sexy in a guilty way lol
Billy Crudup was arguably a better voice actor than Yoji Matsuda, but I did find some of the English dub choices to be rather odd, like friggin Billy Bob Thornton and Minnie Driver... very out of place and annoying.
It is true that humans are stupid and ignorant, but what every one of them tries to find what is right,but that has become difficult, politics,opinion,greed.all a part of ones determination.
Basically what im saying is. Find the truth, but dont be stubborn
In my OPINION, the Japanese audio with subs is far more enjoyable to watch than a version with english-speaking samurais. I live in Poland, and here we are used to subtitles. I just can't enjoy the movie as much if the characters are speaking in "american". It just breaks the mood. And this is not just for Japanese movies: I hate it when movies in english are dubbed in Polish. Original language wins!
@VKFan42 doesn't involve spoiling the end for everyone. You can talk about it in general terms but to show the fucking thing burning down just ruins it.
@IFknHateUTube I guess they could have done that but a lot of reviewers do that. Ever heard of That Guy with the Glasses or Phelous? They show the end when they review.
i liked all the dub casts except Princess Mononoke's - - ....i'm sorry they should've picked someone better for the MAIN character! made her sound like an obnoxious, snob know-it-all teenager...hated it so much i had to re-watch it in japanese...
short-sighted. and the enchanted creatures of the forest the spirits that are so magical and beautiful and noble are also monstrous. now this allegorical struggle between the human civilization and the natural world is not one that can be resolved with a clear victory for either side. and their is a somewhat hopeful conclusion.. its that this relationship is a cycle, human beings can learn how to manage their antagonism with nature in such a way that both civilization and the natural world can
I literally can't stop watching this movie... i love it so much.. it just speaks to you with such powerful clarity.. "are we doomed have we past the point of no return, are we destroying the planet the natural world and ourselves?" its never a matter of a simple struggle between good and evil. the sides keep switching and our sympathies along with the filmmakers keep being drawn back and forth so that the citizens of iron town are hard working and decent. but also greedy and duplicitous and
I remember the first time I saw Princess Mononoke, I was like, wake up people, think about our nature, our home that each and everyone of us lives in, be good to one another and be good to our nature which is our home
Not too many people even attempt to argue my points, it is pointless. My claims are logically thought out and objectively sound. This is why youtube commenter indirectly respond to my statements. Isn't that right @RarFafr Dubs win! for who?
What is the point of this boasting, I'll tell you, people want to be right even if they have to make irrational or logically inconsistent claims. "In my OPINION" Dubs win!
@Yallno22 You said: "I'll tell you, people want to be right even if they have to make irrational or logically inconsistent claims." Irrational claims?! They are called opinions, have you ever heard of those? I don't need to make any rational arguments to protect my opinions. You are trying to win an already lost battle here, my friend. I respect your opinion, why can't you respect mine?
@RarFafr Yes! I respect the intellectual opinions of others but not when people generalize their claims as absolutes, that everyone believes. "Original language wins!" is not an opinion as it's stated. You're ether in denial of the facts or you're oblivious to your own psychological fallacies. Most rational people reading this statement will agree with me. There is no battle to be won. The outcome is already known.
@Yallno22 if miyazaki films do not speak through their images to you then you don't understand the films. i only watch the original version because that's how it was intended to be seen and most dubbing is for people who cannot get into the story without some noise that is the spoken word. Animated features speak through images and language is not a barrier to understanding this film, hence no need for dubbing.
In my OPINION, the Japanese audio with subs is far more enjoyable to watch than a version with english-speaking samurais. I live in Finland, and here we are used to subtitles. I just can't enjoy the movie as much if the characters are speaking in "american". It just breaks the mood. And this is not just for Japanese movies: I hate it when movies in english are dubbed in Finnish. Original language wins!
@RarFafr IT'S TRUE! whereas ppl in the states regards all languages should be translated to the present lingua franca-- English... Origial sub and accents is the only way of exhibiting local specialties and cultural traits. BTW, I love finland lol
How irrational is the claim of not liking english or other language dubs, for anime, when you can't understand or appreciate the anime, in it's original language. What's that you say "subs" Please just stop with the buffoonery, they take away, attention and immersion from the movie. Just appreciate the fact, that foreign anime can be enjoyed worldwide by many races through the application of dubs.
@Yallno22 There are many reasons why someone might prefer a sub to a dub. Poor voice acting and bad lip synching can really bring down the value of an anime, for example. Listening to the cadence of the original language can be fascinating. Also, interesting cultural differences (for example, Ashitaka's voice is deeper in the American version) can be great to observe. And subs are often used as a language aid.
Am I a buffoon? Why? Your disapproval hasn't convinced me--quite the opposite.
@fanficbug Well, I should have made it clear in my previous statement, I'm not knocking the usefulness of subs, My argument was the fallible claims, that I've read on youtube and the internet. which employ the general fallacy of all english dubs being terrible. Liking or disliking a dub is a subjective matter made by each individual. Also,the foreign language and grammatical inflections of a foreign anime is useless to me, if I can't understand it. "No need to convinced you-quite the opposite."
@Yallno22 I just look at it this way- the original director made a movie in that language and therefore it is intended to be watched in that language. Not to mention that watching a film in its original language sets the mood right and makes you realise that you're watching something created by people of another culture.
@FetaCheese222 "a film in its original language sets the mood right"
This claim, implies that an english dub, can not set the mood right or spark, emotional immersion.
"you're watching something created by people of another culture."
This statement contradicts your initial claim. "the original director made a movie in that language and therefore it is intended to be watched in that language."
There are many things, that societies use, that was not intended for them. Clothes, technology ..etc
@FetaCheese222 "the original director made a movie in that language and therefore it is intended to be watched in (that language)."
" watching a film in its original language sets the mood right and makes you realise that (you're watching) something created by people of (another culture)."
If you say that, "it is intended to be watched in (that language)." Then say that, "(you're watching) something created by people of (another culture)." "(another) culture." Equates to a contradiction.
@FetaCheese222 You still don't get it, you are oblivious to the contradiction in your statment.
"Not to mention that watching a film in its original language sets the mood right and makes you realise that you're watching something created by people of another culture"
You know, there's nothing like that good old home cooked food that calms the nerves and makes you realize your eating something created by people of another, different, house, culture from my own.
@Yallno22 Okay, clearly own brains are operating on far-too different wavelengths. Let's just agree to diagree, because I'm not making any sense to you and you're not making any sense to me.
Yes, nothing sets the mood like the barely audible Japanese dialogue on my DVD. Add the noticeably weaker music behind the audio track ( a foolish use of quality recording time THEY PAID FOR with the orchestra), and keep in mind that most western peons will be READING subtitles (definitely NOT part of the experience for Japanese people) and I'd say you got yourself an award-winning performance. I, for one, have enough respect to watch it IN ENGLISH.
@fanficbug: Amen! I felt that way about "Naruto". So much is lost when something like this is translated into English. The performances by the original voice actors can sometimes be far more powerful than an English dub, which had to be re-worded to fit the character's mouth movements. I had seen the fan sub's for Naruto long before the English language version aired. When I tried to watch the English version, I couldn't help but cringe at how bad it turned out in comparison.
@naruhina1236918 Absolutely. If Miyazaki thinks the dubs for all his movies that Disney has done are great, then who are these naysayers to say that Disney has destroyed them? IMO, Disney has done anything but ruin them. Yes, they do add in lines and music in some of their dubs and occasionally make eccentric casting choices, but that in no way means that their dubs are bad. Not in any way. I just can't watch them in Japanese anymore because the dubs are so amazing. This one included.
I think the film looses a lot of its magic in english. The creatures voices with their strange Japanese dialect is haunting and memorable. Particularly the Boars and the Monkeys.
I don't know why, but this moive confirms that Miyazaki is sort of like the next JRR Tolkien in the sense that in their works they try to capture the good essence of nature. Let's just say they do it better than Al Gore =P
I put this film on for my younger cousins (aged 7,9 and 10). They absolutely loved it. Powerful storytelling, beautiful imagery, such a breath of fresh air compared to the brash, jibing pop culture stews being released by Disney and Dreamworks at the moment.
@pyramidhead007 No, fuck you. The English dub is actually very well done in this film. The US voice actors miss a few of the subtleties of the original Japanese, but the subtitled version is there on the DVD as well, so...
@degree7 not really. A person got decapitated by an arrow and two people got de-armed. A few people and spirits died/got shot, but there wasn't anything too bad.
@degree7 It was a bit more gory than expected. But it wasn't "uber" gory as you claim. It was actually quite subtle in the gore department. A couple of beheading by arrow, some disarmament, some guns and explosions. Quite nerf in comparison to shows like Shikabane-hime and Higurashi no Naku Koro ni.
the characters are not good or evil: you sympathize with all, even jigo. all the characters are so justified. it's about thinking about the consequences.
I remember seeing this when I was about 4-5 years of age. I remember sitting in my living room during the summer and my mom actaully yelled at me because all I did was sit on the couch and watch this movie over and over again. I started liking Miyazaki and Wolves are now my favorite animal, haha. we had rented the movie and I couldn't remember what it was called so everytime we went to blockbuster, I'd ask my dad, "Do you remember the wolf princess movie? can we get that?" haha I own it now :)
@MrHmoobhtt No, I think Avatar's story is just a story that has been recycled over and over again to the point when it can be said that the plot was inspired by almost anything, especially Disney's Pocahontas when the only real requirement to make the two complete copies of each other is simply changing the names and one or two nouns.
In this though, it is actually quite different because the main character tries to mediate the two forces that are clashing, not eliminate the evil one of them.
This is the best movie EVER. Such a beautiful movie with deep meaning about life. This movie could change lives. If only everyone in the world would watch it.
Cameron made his avatar characters either mindlessly evil or mindlessly good, and the movie was also ridiculously blatant in it's preachiness. Miyazaki sent the same message but in a caring and actually effective way that doesn't come off as a teenage-level war protest.
@capnfoo whats with everyone bashing avatar all the time, so many people dont give a shit about movie critics as they go see every fucking film no matter how bad it was actually rated, and then they start bashing Avatar to show off. Dont get me wrong , its not against you, and I love princess Mononoke, (I love Studio Ghibli) but Avatar is still a good film.
@keenis I don't see anything wrong with taking part in an ongoing, comparative discussion. The two movies are all sorts of similar, people aren't pulling reasons to compare them out of thin air.
@capnfoo Im not against comparison when its well argumented, (which youtube doesnt allow us with only 500 letters to write in a comment). But when I see people write "blabla avatar is only cgi effects" (TheIncrediblyGodzy) it angers me, I have the impression that everyone is writing negatively about Avatar just because it was the most succesfull movie ever made. For reasons of self proclamation. If you actually really do think about movies and can compare them in detail, then I have no problem.
@keenis I felt the way I did because after seeing it twice in theaters (because I liked the effects) it was annoying to have to cringe through half the lines. Barely any characters had any change of character, and ones like Jake and the girl pilot couldn't act like they were bad when they were supposed to (the whole first half).
@capnfoo I don't believe there is meant to be good or evil in princess Mononoke, they're just meant to be human. I think that's what Miyazaki is trying to say... could be wrong though.
@jopastico 1997 isn't very old when you consider the history of film. There are movie that deal with war that are far more complex than Mononoke that are over 50 years old.
what are those little white people? I know they say it in the movie,but I forgot. could anyone tell me? I really love this movie, but in my opinion, I like castle in the sky better.
You forgot to mention the sheet music, from Joe Hisaishi, whose tender notes enrich the movie, but, alone, even for the people who haven`t seen 'Princess Mononoke" have the same effect, as on those who know the story.
I love everything about this movie. The art is enchanting, the story is beautiful, the music is unbeleaveable, and the depth of the characters is amazing. <3
Princess Mononoke kicks the ass of ANY given pixar/disney film without even breaking a sweat...People always talk about how deep films like Up and WALL-E are, but I have never seen a film so directly and delicately tackled such a difficult subject...
@videogamenostalgia People that say UP or WALL-E is deep are superficial and to them, those are extremly deep. Princess Mononoke is way ahead for them to understand. The same goes for most of the japanese old animes. Hotaru No Haka also is one of them.
@anarhy09 It's worrying that you can so easily split animation into two diametrically-opposing classes. It's further worrying that you can presume that one is somehow intrinsically better than the other.
Wall-E, for what it is, is magnificent. Princess Mononoke, for what it is, is likewise magnificent. Why you feel the need to ridicule those who enjoy both, I don't know.
But @TheNewYorkTimes, love the end of the review and the way you segue into that closing animation. Props for creativity.
@KajNrig Well i didn't ridicule those who enjoyed both, as a matter of fact, i enjoyed both as well. But i did say that i think Princess Mononoke is way ahead for them to understand, as it is more profound. Wall-E is alot better than UP and more difficult to understand... but they're both for kids so i guess you can't compare them to Mononoke. Anyways, from my point of view, as i have the same age as you, i found Princess Mononoke alot better.
@anarhy09 If they (Wall-E and Mononoke) are incomparable, as you say, then why compare them in the first place?
What I'm worried bout, though, isn't the fact that you compare the two. It's that you - and so many other anime fans - separate "Japanese animation" and "Western animation" into diametrically-opposing forces, and then hold one up as being superior to the other. Not only is this a very racially-influenced position to take, it also sets up a hierarchy that is completely unnecessary.
@KajNrig Well they are diametrically-opposing because they are drawn into completly different styles and they take different subjects. Western animation, especially american animation tends to have subjects that are simple to understand, and mostly are made for a childs mind. No offence, but if you find my statements of reality racially-influenced then i guess that your interpretation.
@anarhy09 Mononoke is a film greatly concerned with human expansion and how that affects their environment. Wall-E is a film greatly concerned with human expansion and how that affects their environment. How are those two, and how are "Japanese" and "Western" animation in general, diametrically opposed? By generalities?
For that matter, how can you say that these two have different styles of drawing when they have a shared history? One has affected the other and has been affected in return.
@KajNrig "For that matter, how can you say that these two have different styles of drawing when they have a shared history?" - Do you realize what you're asking me?
@KajNrig Do you want me to define the what anime and wester animation means? And then make you a comparison between them? For you they're both the same and you can't seem to understand why people say anime is better. Well please understand... that there are things at wich americans are not the best, despite of what you think. :)
@anarhy09 I can understand why they say that anime is better. I just want you to understand that they and you, by saying so, are strengthening this perception of a racial hierarchy.
Nowhere did I say that Americans are the best at anything. In fact, it's you who's creating this racial divide by saying that anime trumps Disney or Pixar. I'm simply arguing for a less skewed view.
...but yes, if you think it would help your argument, define what anime and Western animation means.
@KajNrig "Many commentators refer to anime as an art form. As a visual medium, it can emphasize visual styles. The styles can vary from artist to artist or from studio to studio. Some titles make extensive use of common stylization: FLCL, for example, has a reputation for wild, exaggerated stylization. Other titles use different methods: Only Yesterday or Jin-Roh take much more realistic approaches, featuring few stylistic exaggerations."
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TaoStudiosMovies 1 week ago
It's amazing how much Hollywood (avatar) copied this movie. .
nagasako7 1 month ago
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no, avatar copied Pocahontas
heartless2219 1 month ago
@nagasako7 Not only did it copy off fantastic movies like this, but it was done poorly as well. Avatar had a bunch of useless, undeveloped, stereotypical characters. Even the great CGI doesn't save it. I'll take the beautiful animation and storytelling of Miyazaki's films(and Hisaishi's magical score..) over all the hollywood crap being chucked out these days.
OmegaOwA 1 month ago 12
@OmegaOwA i could not agree more with you. :)
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"What exactly are you here for?"
"To see with eyes unclouded by hate"
E46pwa 1 month ago
who's complaining about the english dub? i think that this one had the best dub out of all of miyazaki's films.
mustacheroller 1 month ago 2
@mustacheroller english dub is garbage, everyone that thinks its good is a lazy, fat ass guy
Mudux 3 weeks ago
@Mudux I agree I found the dub very lacking. And its regarded as one of the best of all time so that's saying stuff. But I find Claire Daines' voice very sexy in a guilty way lol
kickodude 3 weeks ago
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Billy Crudup was arguably a better voice actor than Yoji Matsuda, but I did find some of the English dub choices to be rather odd, like friggin Billy Bob Thornton and Minnie Driver... very out of place and annoying.
degree7 2 weeks ago
Happy birthday Mr. Miyazaki!
zackington 2 months ago
The first time I saw the movie , I WAS CREEPT OUT .
Now , I'm fine .
(Not really)
nenamikhail 2 months ago
great movie
theend1245 2 months ago
co ja pacze...
Bartaz19 2 months ago
The dubbing for Mononoke Hime is actually pretty good. There has been MUCH worse.
PeaceMakerX1 2 months ago
If anyone ever see Miyazaki's animations, you will love everyone one of them.
genelin1995 3 months ago
It is true that humans are stupid and ignorant, but what every one of them tries to find what is right,but that has become difficult, politics,opinion,greed.all a part of ones determination.
Basically what im saying is. Find the truth, but dont be stubborn
doom53104 4 months ago
The best part of San isn't that she's a "beautiful lady." The best part is that she KICKS ASS!
wifeofsherlock 4 months ago
In my OPINION, the Japanese audio with subs is far more enjoyable to watch than a version with english-speaking samurais. I live in Poland, and here we are used to subtitles. I just can't enjoy the movie as much if the characters are speaking in "american". It just breaks the mood. And this is not just for Japanese movies: I hate it when movies in english are dubbed in Polish. Original language wins!
CleverDjembe 4 months ago 6
@CleverDjembe WoW, my comment got copied. I have to say, I am honoured:D
RarFafr 2 months ago
@RarFafr
I didn't mean to copy you. I just wanted to say the exact same thing, because I agree with you :)
CleverDjembe 2 months ago
@CleverDjembe :)
RarFafr 2 months ago
DON'T WATCH THIS REVIEW IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE MOVIE FIRST!
CleverDjembe 4 months ago 2
1:45 the grudge? xD
xardes1990 5 months ago
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It was a great movie.
IIIJFRIII 5 months ago in playlist Liked
THANKS FOR SHOWING THE ENDING IN YOUR REVIEW YOU FUCKING PRICK
IFknHateUTube 6 months ago 40
@IFknHateUTube Reviewing a movie or book involves watching/reading the whole thing and reviewing in in whole.
VKFan42 5 months ago
@VKFan42 doesn't involve spoiling the end for everyone. You can talk about it in general terms but to show the fucking thing burning down just ruins it.
IFknHateUTube 5 months ago
@IFknHateUTube I guess they could have done that but a lot of reviewers do that. Ever heard of That Guy with the Glasses or Phelous? They show the end when they review.
VKFan42 5 months ago
@IFknHateUTube thank u for pointing tht out i almost watched it
ItsStillStefan 2 weeks ago
i liked all the dub casts except Princess Mononoke's - - ....i'm sorry they should've picked someone better for the MAIN character! made her sound like an obnoxious, snob know-it-all teenager...hated it so much i had to re-watch it in japanese...
aiayumi 6 months ago
@aiayumi she is until she gets to know ashitaka.
atrumpetwillsound 6 months ago
Actually, the dub isn't that bad. I prefer the dub of Hayao Miyazaki's movies over the subbed and I thought I was a hard-core sub fan
KaimanaHaru0 6 months ago
survive. but miyzakis film also takes a longer view which is that eventually this cycle will end and it can only end one way....."
coolmountains25 6 months ago
short-sighted. and the enchanted creatures of the forest the spirits that are so magical and beautiful and noble are also monstrous. now this allegorical struggle between the human civilization and the natural world is not one that can be resolved with a clear victory for either side. and their is a somewhat hopeful conclusion.. its that this relationship is a cycle, human beings can learn how to manage their antagonism with nature in such a way that both civilization and the natural world can
coolmountains25 6 months ago
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I literally can't stop watching this movie... i love it so much.. it just speaks to you with such powerful clarity.. "are we doomed have we past the point of no return, are we destroying the planet the natural world and ourselves?" its never a matter of a simple struggle between good and evil. the sides keep switching and our sympathies along with the filmmakers keep being drawn back and forth so that the citizens of iron town are hard working and decent. but also greedy and duplicitous and
coolmountains25 6 months ago
I remember the first time I saw Princess Mononoke, I was like, wake up people, think about our nature, our home that each and everyone of us lives in, be good to one another and be good to our nature which is our home
kristbjorg999 7 months ago 4
right on
astib102 7 months ago
Not too many people even attempt to argue my points, it is pointless. My claims are logically thought out and objectively sound. This is why youtube commenter indirectly respond to my statements. Isn't that right @RarFafr Dubs win! for who?
What is the point of this boasting, I'll tell you, people want to be right even if they have to make irrational or logically inconsistent claims. "In my OPINION" Dubs win!
Yallno22 7 months ago
@Yallno22 You said: "I'll tell you, people want to be right even if they have to make irrational or logically inconsistent claims." Irrational claims?! They are called opinions, have you ever heard of those? I don't need to make any rational arguments to protect my opinions. You are trying to win an already lost battle here, my friend. I respect your opinion, why can't you respect mine?
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Yallno22 7 months ago
@RarFafr Yes! I respect the intellectual opinions of others but not when people generalize their claims as absolutes, that everyone believes. "Original language wins!" is not an opinion as it's stated. You're ether in denial of the facts or you're oblivious to your own psychological fallacies. Most rational people reading this statement will agree with me. There is no battle to be won. The outcome is already known.
Yallno22 7 months ago
@Yallno22 if miyazaki films do not speak through their images to you then you don't understand the films. i only watch the original version because that's how it was intended to be seen and most dubbing is for people who cannot get into the story without some noise that is the spoken word. Animated features speak through images and language is not a barrier to understanding this film, hence no need for dubbing.
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coolmountains25 6 months ago
it is an extrordinaily excellent source for TOEFL test takers to practice our listening !! AWESOME
petersoudesuyone 7 months ago
In my OPINION, the Japanese audio with subs is far more enjoyable to watch than a version with english-speaking samurais. I live in Finland, and here we are used to subtitles. I just can't enjoy the movie as much if the characters are speaking in "american". It just breaks the mood. And this is not just for Japanese movies: I hate it when movies in english are dubbed in Finnish. Original language wins!
RarFafr 7 months ago 3
@RarFafr IT'S TRUE! whereas ppl in the states regards all languages should be translated to the present lingua franca-- English... Origial sub and accents is the only way of exhibiting local specialties and cultural traits. BTW, I love finland lol
petersoudesuyone 7 months ago
The kodama are like living baubleheads!!
NaiTaiDai 7 months ago
its a kodama!!!!!! they are so adorible! i want one and place it in my forest!!!!!!!!!
princessmononoke05 7 months ago
its a gudoma!!!!!! they are so adorible! i want one and place it in my forest!!!!!!!!!
princessmononoke05 7 months ago
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this is my all time favorite movie
mikeT1100 8 months ago
0:21 omg they are so adorable ! :) i love them!
flyingfishstick8 8 months ago
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This is a really good movie. It's like a painting every frame!
Teapawts 8 months ago
How irrational is the claim of not liking english or other language dubs, for anime, when you can't understand or appreciate the anime, in it's original language. What's that you say "subs" Please just stop with the buffoonery, they take away, attention and immersion from the movie. Just appreciate the fact, that foreign anime can be enjoyed worldwide by many races through the application of dubs.
Yallno22 8 months ago
@Yallno22 There are many reasons why someone might prefer a sub to a dub. Poor voice acting and bad lip synching can really bring down the value of an anime, for example. Listening to the cadence of the original language can be fascinating. Also, interesting cultural differences (for example, Ashitaka's voice is deeper in the American version) can be great to observe. And subs are often used as a language aid.
Am I a buffoon? Why? Your disapproval hasn't convinced me--quite the opposite.
fanficbug 8 months ago
@fanficbug Well, I should have made it clear in my previous statement, I'm not knocking the usefulness of subs, My argument was the fallible claims, that I've read on youtube and the internet. which employ the general fallacy of all english dubs being terrible. Liking or disliking a dub is a subjective matter made by each individual. Also,the foreign language and grammatical inflections of a foreign anime is useless to me, if I can't understand it. "No need to convinced you-quite the opposite."
Yallno22 8 months ago
@Yallno22 I just look at it this way- the original director made a movie in that language and therefore it is intended to be watched in that language. Not to mention that watching a film in its original language sets the mood right and makes you realise that you're watching something created by people of another culture.
FetaCheese222 8 months ago
@FetaCheese222 "a film in its original language sets the mood right"
This claim, implies that an english dub, can not set the mood right or spark, emotional immersion.
"you're watching something created by people of another culture."
This statement contradicts your initial claim. "the original director made a movie in that language and therefore it is intended to be watched in that language."
There are many things, that societies use, that was not intended for them. Clothes, technology ..etc
Yallno22 8 months ago
@Yallno22 What? How do they contradict? The director made it in Japanese. He is a Japanese person, from a Japanese culture.
FetaCheese222 8 months ago
@FetaCheese222 "the original director made a movie in that language and therefore it is intended to be watched in (that language)."
" watching a film in its original language sets the mood right and makes you realise that (you're watching) something created by people of (another culture)."
If you say that, "it is intended to be watched in (that language)." Then say that, "(you're watching) something created by people of (another culture)." "(another) culture." Equates to a contradiction.
Yallno22 8 months ago
@Yallno22 I meant "another" as a different culture from your own.
FetaCheese222 7 months ago
@FetaCheese222 You still don't get it, you are oblivious to the contradiction in your statment.
"Not to mention that watching a film in its original language sets the mood right and makes you realise that you're watching something created by people of another culture"
You know, there's nothing like that good old home cooked food that calms the nerves and makes you realize your eating something created by people of another, different, house, culture from my own.
Yallno22 7 months ago
@Yallno22 Okay, clearly own brains are operating on far-too different wavelengths. Let's just agree to diagree, because I'm not making any sense to you and you're not making any sense to me.
FetaCheese222 6 months ago
@FetaCheese222
Yes, nothing sets the mood like the barely audible Japanese dialogue on my DVD. Add the noticeably weaker music behind the audio track ( a foolish use of quality recording time THEY PAID FOR with the orchestra), and keep in mind that most western peons will be READING subtitles (definitely NOT part of the experience for Japanese people) and I'd say you got yourself an award-winning performance. I, for one, have enough respect to watch it IN ENGLISH.
sikyatavo 7 months ago
@sikyatavo Weaker? I'm pretty sure it's just quieter. Use the volume knob. :|
FetaCheese222 7 months ago
@fanficbug: Amen! I felt that way about "Naruto". So much is lost when something like this is translated into English. The performances by the original voice actors can sometimes be far more powerful than an English dub, which had to be re-worded to fit the character's mouth movements. I had seen the fan sub's for Naruto long before the English language version aired. When I tried to watch the English version, I couldn't help but cringe at how bad it turned out in comparison.
rpgfantatic 7 months ago
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Yallno22 8 months ago
i wanna get a kodama... i will name him squisshy
Penguinzcanfly 9 months ago 27
@Penguinzcanfly ahhh finding nemo finnaly someone with humor:P haha!
sarahgek 3 months ago
@Penguinzcanfly You watch Coe's quest?
madaraluka93 3 months ago
Love this cartoon....... great animation.......
1234bboys 9 months ago 2
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matrs23 10 months ago
the commercials are so cool on youtube, dead ass
whaaat11 10 months ago
People need to stop hating on the dub.
Miyazaki likes the dubs of his films. They put in lots of effort into making them.
naruhina1236918 10 months ago 58
@naruhina1236918
the dubs on this are well done
redwolf481 10 months ago
@naruhina1236918 Absolutely. If Miyazaki thinks the dubs for all his movies that Disney has done are great, then who are these naysayers to say that Disney has destroyed them? IMO, Disney has done anything but ruin them. Yes, they do add in lines and music in some of their dubs and occasionally make eccentric casting choices, but that in no way means that their dubs are bad. Not in any way. I just can't watch them in Japanese anymore because the dubs are so amazing. This one included.
Turnajon 4 months ago
@Turnajon This film was dubbed by miramax and I think they did a great job especially compared to disney, which is a much larger company.
TheFatty2497 4 months ago
I think the film looses a lot of its magic in english. The creatures voices with their strange Japanese dialect is haunting and memorable. Particularly the Boars and the Monkeys.
Kalferzu 10 months ago
@Kalferzu you suck.
the german dub for example is goddamn good (btw. they use the original japanese soundtrack(with vocals))
tntalus 9 months ago
yee basterds could stop flaming each other..... shut the fuck up and enjoy
TheLongLamas 11 months ago 3
In the past year, preliminary video commercials on youtube has gone up 67%.
But there is something you can do about it.
redshark618 11 months ago
I don't know why, but this moive confirms that Miyazaki is sort of like the next JRR Tolkien in the sense that in their works they try to capture the good essence of nature. Let's just say they do it better than Al Gore =P
ElvenWarrior891 11 months ago 5
hayao's movies are nothing without joe hisaishi's music!
joehisaishilover 11 months ago
I put this film on for my younger cousins (aged 7,9 and 10). They absolutely loved it. Powerful storytelling, beautiful imagery, such a breath of fresh air compared to the brash, jibing pop culture stews being released by Disney and Dreamworks at the moment.
Sambucca 11 months ago 4
Love how Scott butcher's Mononoke's name in this vid XD
wes8424 11 months ago
Both Miyazaki and Hisaishi are of a dying breed of artists. It's a real shame, because practically everything they touch is gold.
WinterInJapan 11 months ago 4
Did anyone else think Okami had a very similar soundtrack to the film?
austinthebookworm5 11 months ago
I watched this after My Neighbour Totoro. A lot more violent than I expected, but still another Miyazaki masterpiece.
austinthebookworm5 11 months ago
Fuck the english dub!
pyramidhead007 1 year ago
@pyramidhead007 No, fuck you. The English dub is actually very well done in this film. The US voice actors miss a few of the subtleties of the original Japanese, but the subtitled version is there on the DVD as well, so...
rss313 11 months ago
@rss313 wow! a simple thumbs down would've worked.
BlackOakStudios 11 months ago
Great movie
pokemonjhh 1 year ago
This movie was uber gory, I remember.
degree7 1 year ago
@degree7 no, it wasn't
N3M3SISWARM 1 year ago
@degree7 not really. A person got decapitated by an arrow and two people got de-armed. A few people and spirits died/got shot, but there wasn't anything too bad.
0TheSweetRevenge0 1 year ago
@degree7 It was a bit more gory than expected. But it wasn't "uber" gory as you claim. It was actually quite subtle in the gore department. A couple of beheading by arrow, some disarmament, some guns and explosions. Quite nerf in comparison to shows like Shikabane-hime and Higurashi no Naku Koro ni.
Gokan1690 11 months ago
BEST. MOVIE. EVER.
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That is all.
ObsidianKnight90 1 year ago 7
My Favorite Movie.
omarct 1 year ago
@nohshinto Haha. then who is permitted to review his work? Someone native to japan, amiright?
yumadtho?
lawl. faggot.
gpburr 1 year ago
This review came out 10 years after the movie... isn't that kind of late?
meepfeet 1 year ago
@meepfeet it's never too late to recognize greatness
mania66107 1 year ago
@mania66107 True...
meepfeet 1 year ago
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@nohshinto i agree with you. NYT have no qualifications to review Miyazaki. this review is crap. mononoke was a crap show!
dastechnoviking 1 year ago
epic movie
a16traceur 1 year ago 3
Couldn't have done it without the help of Joe Hisaishi's music
Danphansae 1 year ago 116
@Danphansae and Oga Kazuo's paintings :)
HelTra91 8 months ago
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@nohshinto you mad bro?
improvingvisibility 1 year ago
My favorite Miyazaki film next to Spirited Away and Naussica and the Valley of the Wind!
VisionWiz1978 1 year ago 3
one of the greatest film makers? nope, he's THE GREATEST! :)
SKDhorserider 1 year ago 6
this movie is truly beautiful
no doubt one of the best !
IzanamiKitsune 1 year ago 2
I remember when I once saw this movie a few years back. I could never remember the name.
And one day, I came across one of Miyasaki's film and saw "Princess Mononoke" listed, and it dawned on me that this was the title.
To this day it remains a favorite :)
Nyxferno 1 year ago
meaning is not "preachiness"
the characters are not good or evil: you sympathize with all, even jigo. all the characters are so justified. it's about thinking about the consequences.
Bleyendaal 1 year ago 6
hayao miyazaki + joe hisaishi always equals pure win
HelTra91 1 year ago 8
66666th viewer :)
Kupolyth 1 year ago
I remember seeing this when I was about 4-5 years of age. I remember sitting in my living room during the summer and my mom actaully yelled at me because all I did was sit on the couch and watch this movie over and over again. I started liking Miyazaki and Wolves are now my favorite animal, haha. we had rented the movie and I couldn't remember what it was called so everytime we went to blockbuster, I'd ask my dad, "Do you remember the wolf princess movie? can we get that?" haha I own it now :)
DeadDayGal 1 year ago 3
this is such a terrific movie <
i love it so much.ive seen it a bajillion times along with Miyazakis other movies<3
hes just so amazing.
MsStrongbear 1 year ago
i was up all last night. this movie came on about 5 ish i think. i was extremely tired but it was to good to not watch. i loved it.
Karmaffix 1 year ago 3
thump up avatar was inspire by this anime movie
MrHmoobhtt 1 year ago
@MrHmoobhtt No :T No it wasn't.
Swishkit 1 year ago
@MrHmoobhtt No, I think Avatar's story is just a story that has been recycled over and over again to the point when it can be said that the plot was inspired by almost anything, especially Disney's Pocahontas when the only real requirement to make the two complete copies of each other is simply changing the names and one or two nouns.
In this though, it is actually quite different because the main character tries to mediate the two forces that are clashing, not eliminate the evil one of them.
Heyprinny 1 year ago 4
@TobyBDK thank you!! Well said!
PrincessGarnetXVI 1 year ago
You know he took 17 years to create the storyline. I love ashitaka. You pronounced Mononoke wrong btw. But everything you said was correct
PrincessGarnetXVI 1 year ago
This is the best movie EVER. Such a beautiful movie with deep meaning about life. This movie could change lives. If only everyone in the world would watch it.
PrincessGarnetXVI 1 year ago 13
wow they did it at the year i was born :D
iwantwaffles123 1 year ago
I believe there was a tribute to this film in Hellboy2, is it true?
JaniceChaos 1 year ago
Am I the only one who thinks this is the best film of the 90s?
RockBottomRiser21 1 year ago 3
@RockBottomRiser21
THIS
Unbekannt79 1 year ago
Cameron made his avatar characters either mindlessly evil or mindlessly good, and the movie was also ridiculously blatant in it's preachiness. Miyazaki sent the same message but in a caring and actually effective way that doesn't come off as a teenage-level war protest.
capnfoo 1 year ago 263
@capnfoo
Indeed I've noticed in MANY Miyazaki movies, the villain is never really ever COMPLETELY evil.
Bluburry100 1 year ago 7
@capnfoo There is a "message" and "characters" in Avatar ? I thought it was just pretty pictures and CGI action... did i miss something ? :)
It is very true that the characters in Mononoke are complex, and most of them range all over this gray spectrum of morals.
TheIncredibleGodzy 1 year ago
@capnfoo I love you, man.
21stEuphoria 1 year ago
@capnfoo whats with everyone bashing avatar all the time, so many people dont give a shit about movie critics as they go see every fucking film no matter how bad it was actually rated, and then they start bashing Avatar to show off. Dont get me wrong , its not against you, and I love princess Mononoke, (I love Studio Ghibli) but Avatar is still a good film.
keenis 1 year ago
@keenis I was taking part in an already-on-going a comparative discussion........................
capnfoo 1 year ago
@keenis I don't see anything wrong with taking part in an ongoing, comparative discussion. The two movies are all sorts of similar, people aren't pulling reasons to compare them out of thin air.
capnfoo 1 year ago
@capnfoo Im not against comparison when its well argumented, (which youtube doesnt allow us with only 500 letters to write in a comment). But when I see people write "blabla avatar is only cgi effects" (TheIncrediblyGodzy) it angers me, I have the impression that everyone is writing negatively about Avatar just because it was the most succesfull movie ever made. For reasons of self proclamation. If you actually really do think about movies and can compare them in detail, then I have no problem.
keenis 1 year ago
@keenis I felt the way I did because after seeing it twice in theaters (because I liked the effects) it was annoying to have to cringe through half the lines. Barely any characters had any change of character, and ones like Jake and the girl pilot couldn't act like they were bad when they were supposed to (the whole first half).
capnfoo 1 year ago
@capnfoo that is the nature of any hollywood blockbuster
385181 10 months ago
@capnfoo I don't believe there is meant to be good or evil in princess Mononoke, they're just meant to be human. I think that's what Miyazaki is trying to say... could be wrong though.
TeaChanPunker 9 months ago 3
@capnfoo i think cameron just wants money....lol
moethebadass1 8 months ago
@capnfoo and this film was released in 1997! =)
jopastico 8 months ago
@jopastico 1997 isn't very old when you consider the history of film. There are movie that deal with war that are far more complex than Mononoke that are over 50 years old.
FetaCheese222 8 months ago
The Forest Spirits were adorable!
merrick00987 1 year ago 2
what are those little white people? I know they say it in the movie,but I forgot. could anyone tell me? I really love this movie, but in my opinion, I like castle in the sky better.
MegaColton10 1 year ago
@MegaColton10 The Forest Spirits.
WootforSharpies 1 year ago
what are those little white people? I know they say it in the movie,but I forgot. could anyone tell me?
MegaColton10 1 year ago
@MegaColton10 Kodama's!
aranarthspanish 1 year ago
Beatiful animation, amazing composer( Joe Hisaishi), top notch voice actors, intriguing storyline and characters...what more could we ask for?
Hayashirice911 1 year ago
You forgot to mention the sheet music, from Joe Hisaishi, whose tender notes enrich the movie, but, alone, even for the people who haven`t seen 'Princess Mononoke" have the same effect, as on those who know the story.
666Wo0k 1 year ago 2
great movie
a110075 1 year ago
I love everything about this movie. The art is enchanting, the story is beautiful, the music is unbeleaveable, and the depth of the characters is amazing. <3
medori101 1 year ago
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MUSICisLIFE1429 1 year ago
@MUSICisLIFE1429
it isnt a disney movie AT ALL
1xXxBASSistxXx1 1 year ago
@MUSICisLIFE1429 its not disney's..it's studio ghibli's...disney only the distributor in U.S if i'm not mistaken
nazreensyah 1 year ago
That was a great way of putting it :3
but OMG spoilers >_<;;
senselessplace 1 year ago
i watced this movie a few years back, and i loved it! now i feel like watching it again! miyazaki's works always blow me away! XDDD
cookiemaniac14 1 year ago
Princess Mononoke kicks the ass of ANY given pixar/disney film without even breaking a sweat...People always talk about how deep films like Up and WALL-E are, but I have never seen a film so directly and delicately tackled such a difficult subject...
videogamenostalgia 1 year ago 4
@videogamenostalgia People that say UP or WALL-E is deep are superficial and to them, those are extremly deep. Princess Mononoke is way ahead for them to understand. The same goes for most of the japanese old animes. Hotaru No Haka also is one of them.
anarhy09 1 year ago
@anarhy09 It's worrying that you can so easily split animation into two diametrically-opposing classes. It's further worrying that you can presume that one is somehow intrinsically better than the other.
Wall-E, for what it is, is magnificent. Princess Mononoke, for what it is, is likewise magnificent. Why you feel the need to ridicule those who enjoy both, I don't know.
But @TheNewYorkTimes, love the end of the review and the way you segue into that closing animation. Props for creativity.
KajNrig 1 year ago
@KajNrig Well i didn't ridicule those who enjoyed both, as a matter of fact, i enjoyed both as well. But i did say that i think Princess Mononoke is way ahead for them to understand, as it is more profound. Wall-E is alot better than UP and more difficult to understand... but they're both for kids so i guess you can't compare them to Mononoke. Anyways, from my point of view, as i have the same age as you, i found Princess Mononoke alot better.
anarhy09 1 year ago
@anarhy09 If they (Wall-E and Mononoke) are incomparable, as you say, then why compare them in the first place?
What I'm worried bout, though, isn't the fact that you compare the two. It's that you - and so many other anime fans - separate "Japanese animation" and "Western animation" into diametrically-opposing forces, and then hold one up as being superior to the other. Not only is this a very racially-influenced position to take, it also sets up a hierarchy that is completely unnecessary.
KajNrig 1 year ago
@KajNrig Well they are diametrically-opposing because they are drawn into completly different styles and they take different subjects. Western animation, especially american animation tends to have subjects that are simple to understand, and mostly are made for a childs mind. No offence, but if you find my statements of reality racially-influenced then i guess that your interpretation.
anarhy09 1 year ago
@anarhy09 Mononoke is a film greatly concerned with human expansion and how that affects their environment. Wall-E is a film greatly concerned with human expansion and how that affects their environment. How are those two, and how are "Japanese" and "Western" animation in general, diametrically opposed? By generalities?
For that matter, how can you say that these two have different styles of drawing when they have a shared history? One has affected the other and has been affected in return.
KajNrig 1 year ago
@KajNrig "For that matter, how can you say that these two have different styles of drawing when they have a shared history?" - Do you realize what you're asking me?
anarhy09 1 year ago
@anarhy09 Yes, I do. I'm asking you how so-called "anime" and "Western animation" are diametrically opposed in terms of their art style.
KajNrig 1 year ago
@KajNrig Do you want me to define the what anime and wester animation means? And then make you a comparison between them? For you they're both the same and you can't seem to understand why people say anime is better. Well please understand... that there are things at wich americans are not the best, despite of what you think. :)
anarhy09 1 year ago
@anarhy09 I can understand why they say that anime is better. I just want you to understand that they and you, by saying so, are strengthening this perception of a racial hierarchy.
Nowhere did I say that Americans are the best at anything. In fact, it's you who's creating this racial divide by saying that anime trumps Disney or Pixar. I'm simply arguing for a less skewed view.
...but yes, if you think it would help your argument, define what anime and Western animation means.
KajNrig 1 year ago
@KajNrig "Many commentators refer to anime as an art form. As a visual medium, it can emphasize visual styles. The styles can vary from artist to artist or from studio to studio. Some titles make extensive use of common stylization: FLCL, for example, has a reputation for wild, exaggerated stylization. Other titles use different methods: Only Yesterday or Jin-Roh take much more realistic approaches, featuring few stylistic exaggerations."
anarhy09 1 year ago