Debate - Rabbi Meir Kahane vs. Prof. Alan Dershowitz, 2/4

[ChiTownIsaac55]

Every liberal Jew Kahane debates looks like some disgusting Warlock. Just ugly, disgusting looking people, and none is worse than Jerome Segal, though this guys is close. You can see the substance oozing out of Kahane while you can feel the fluff that is Dershowitz's words. What a joke!

[SAMIRERRE]

@ChiTownIsaac55

finkelstin is worse

[simssamui]

anybody else imagine a world without freaky faiths ?

[sssssjjjj1]

oh, the Germans tried to kill Jewish just because their religion. hahhahahaha. That is hilarious. They have been kicked out of 119 countries. Not disallowed by 119. But kicked out later, long after they were in the country and lied cheated and stole and murdered to get their way. It's fact. America will be 120. The Rothschild sponsored the holocaust. It was stated that the holocaust was needed for future high ground. A high ground they try to take to this day. Read protocols of zion.

[sssssjjjj1]

did you guys know that palestine means Canaan. So when you say Palestine is fictitious you are just parroting what a liar has said. Anyway,...now back to your stupidity.

[cm22100]

dershowitz calls a debate he is clearly losing a 'meaningless discussion'.

[cm22100]

Dershowitz is BSing, its very clear

[AnticDispossession]

I agree with Kahane in that Israel should not be judged by European standards any longer. It has become a Middle Eastern state and fights wars like one, take that how you will. I disagree with him on many other things however. I believe peace should come before all. That is how you move on with normal life, that is how you have neighbors instead of enemies, and that is how you do not doom yourself to the next 100 years of war. Israel can not remain an island.

[DeepHauz]

Kahane was a true tzadik. Today, largely with help of orgs like AISH, Chabad, Breslev, and frankly, the internet...secular Jews everywhere are now finally, slowly, seeing the truth and for lack of a better term "imposing Judaism" on themselves.

Mazel Tov.

[77Merav]

Today Prof. Alan Dershowitz speak in Rabbi Meir Kahane's voice!

Kahane see then what we and the Prof seeing today!

[rrrrsssssssa2]

Alan Dershowitz is an atheist. Watch his debate with Alan Keyes.

[JimGoad]

"america gives israel at least 10 billion a year and that [sic] 51 thousand dollars per person."

No, that's about $33 bucks per person, genius.

[libertyordeath2012]

all i can say is look up the rockefellers and rothschilds they are hebrew decent and fund every war they can stir up. and yes even the royal family's of the world claim the same line of decent from the tribes of dan if israelies knew this they would leave isreal on their own and apologize to every muslim they saw on the way out.

[Hiuf425ff3425]

America gives 3 Billion a year to Israel, AND requires Israel to repatriate that money to US companies like Grumman and Lockhead. Isreael in return provides VITAL security details on Americas numerous enemies in the mioddle east, assists in joint operations TRAIONS (yes TRAINS) US soldiers and Air Force) and Israel doesn't sell weaspons to Americas eenemies despite enoormous profit potential.

America also, BTW, gives nearly the same amount to many dictatorships like Eygpt (2.5 billion),

[Hiuf425ff3425]

and other unfriendly nations. You racistly conemn the Jew for 'relying' on your tax money (what a joke) yet in the face of their overwhelming accomplishments in Law, Medicine, science and the arts (not to mention carity in which they exceed nearly EVERYONE on earth in giving) you jealously spit venom. Israel IS a Jewish state and ALWAYS was, if you think Jews in Judea and Samaria (what you ignorantly call 'west bank' are 'settlers', then tell me was Jesus a settler' too?

[Hiuf425ff3425]

Afterall he was from Bet Lechem in Judea (and by the way HE WAS A JEW!)

I suggest you learn the truth Adolph...

[Hiuf425ff3425]

The PA Authority, and many, MANY otyher nations and entitieees which are UNFRIENDLY to the US. The US gets the m,ost value they could ever GET in fact, for its suopport of Israel.

As far as your anti-semitic rant thast Jews have a history in Usury, that is because mnoney lending in the middle ages was considered an awful profession and because Cheristaian midevil Europe WAS anti-semetic they banned Jews from all 'noble' proffessions and pushed them into ones considered 'distasteful'

[Hiuf425ff3425]

Judaism predates Islam by THOUSANDS of years, in fact there aer man Muslims today who are descended from Jews who were forced to convert, NOT vice versa. EVEN Muslims (educated ones) don't dispute this.

[libertyordeath2012]

they only argument isreal has left is Hitler killed lots of us and any1 that speaks out against us is just like hitler, and thats not gonna work anymore. disagreeing with lies doesn't make me racist, i live with a convert jew and he is the type of jew that was murdered by hitler not pure blood hebrews so go find out what really happened during the holocaust, yes hitler was terrible but he himself was hebrew so if he would do that to his own kind think of what they will do to their own now.

[libertyordeath2012]

now dont get me wrong, i know there are lots of good jews. but when you go back thru history and you find out about all the usury and the fomenting of war to profit the corrupt elitist that are admittedly hebrew decent your sypathy level for israel starts to dwindle. something needs to be done i refuse to go to war with iran because some israelie bureaucrat says they have nukes i dont believe that for a minuet.

[Hiuf425ff3425]

Yes, Iran is ONLY developing Nukes for electricity, right? Hahaha Do you Hear yourself? You think Iranians only hate Jews and Israel? They call Israel the 'little Satan' but they call America 'the big satan'. Iran's goovt is the enemy of civilization and peace all over the world

[libertyordeath2012]

i want to know where that money goes... oh wait it goes to killing muslims... i forgot

[libertyordeath2012]

yes i exaggerate a bit, but i do not like israel. just for the fact that i know what it does to other nations and the lies they spew. america gives israel at least 10 billion a year and that 51 thousand dollars per person. why is there still poverty there? my mother doesnt even make 51k a year

[Hiuf425ff3425]

Did you actually LISTEN to the debate above?

[libertyordeath2012]

there might be 10 truly good kews/isreaelies in this whole world

[GorterPoss]

@libertyordeath2012 surely you exaggerate.

[libertyordeath2012]

jews should just die or move into space or something. noone likes them we all know they are liars and they are the root of evil and the seed of satan. greedy bastards the lot of them. yeah hitler was crazy... but wasnt he right? god would not tell a race of people to go into a land kill man women child and beast and it could be theirs. BUT SATAN WOULD

[GorterPoss]

@libertyordeath2012 idk, I personally like the Jews in Hollywood. Die Hard 1,2,3 and 4 were awesome.

[Hiuf425ff3425]

I think here in these comments you are finally being honest about what you feel. What happened to you? Did you get bullyed by a Jewish kid in 3rd grade or something? You had your Spanish inquisition, your Babylon Conquest,Roman Diaspora, Nazi Holocaust. Your side LOT. There IS a G-D and HE is the G-D of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the G-D of Israel and THERE IS NO OTHER. You wanna fight HIM? Hahaha! Good luck!

[Durlwanger]

Technically it's God's property !!

I suppose that in the end God will decide for us and give his verdict. I hope he has a solution that everyone can live with.

I don't think that the world has any right to say that we can't have it..( Palestine ). England especially should shut up about WAR CRIMES.

[Durlwanger]

Dershowitz argues the great Western case of personal rights and democracy...but does not find anything wrong with taking Palestinian land by outright force and manifest destiny. Kahane, at least, is true to his beliefs. Dersh is a scumbag lawyer who will get a murderer off the hook for money. I prefer to be led by Rabbi Kahane not the mercinary Dershowitz.

[YamaniNetsi]

there is no such a thing as "Palestinian" land

[Durlwanger]

Its just a name. There is no such thing as anyone's land really. We all just move around claiming some elses losses.

[libertyordeath2012]

there is no such things as isrealie land either

[HebrewFatherland]

@Durlwanger

LOL And what do you think of Kahane?that he is an apologist who will give Palis land?Rabbi Kahane would make them immigrate from Israel for good.

And Yes I would follow Rabbi Kahane too..because unlike the leftists such as alan dershowitz..Rabbi Kahane never gave up Israeli land.libs like dershowitz today are Arab apologists who are being sorry for "the cruel occupation" and try to give them land,and establish a Fakestinian state.

[RobGoth100]

Truman v MacArthur

Dershowitz v Kahane

Too bad both can't be right.

[TallBrooklynGuy]

i'm so glad kahane put dershowitz ignorance in place. compromise with individuals that relentlessly attack and kill innocent people and preach nothing but to destroy the country they are illegally squatting in.

[TallBrooklynGuy]

at 20:27 that was an absolute classic moment.

"politicians who know how to compromise"??

lol. dershowitz is just delusional. he identified bloodthirsty arab muslim extremists in israels midst as someone to compromise with when this has not only not worked but met with more bloodshed.

the problem with dershowitz and his colleagues is they live in west with basically decent people. if there is a conflict here or in the west, compromise is possible, but when compromise fails then what do you do?

[brabon1]

its so sad....kahane was right

[bigollameo]

@brabon1

Yeah wrong!

[brabon1]

@bigollameo bit confused....do you mean kahane was wrong...or dersh was wrong

need to amend my comments somewhat

kahane was right that arabs living within israel would ultimately rebel against the state (this is coming true) he was wrong about the birth rate thing

living in a westernized society has made the arabs more western...as a result, their birthrates are falling dramatically....mostly due to the women getting educated and marrying later

[bigollameo]

@brabon1 (1/2)

No, I meant you're wrong in respect of saying "Rabbi" Kahane was correct.

You say that "Rav" Kahane was right about Arab rebellion against the Jewish state but I see none of it, save Israelis' and Arabs' anger boiling over.

What I do see is a racially-instituted mistreatment of, and a deliberate political misrepresentation of Israeli and non-Israeli Arabs by right-wing zionist Israeli Jews to promote real estate transference and to press for a religiously homogenous nation.

[bigollameo]

@brabon1 (2/2)

Further, I see a generation of left-wing and centrist secular Israelis coming into conflict with an increasingly hard-line religious orthodoxy that will only be solved by a civil war between them, or from a massive military defeat in an international war that involves all of them.

Is Israel to be secular or religious? One can only hope it remains secular and liberal as it has been for most of its lifespan, but the possibility of a racist theocracy is now the great present threat

[brabon1]

@bigollameo the only group making aliya are the religious

racist theocracy? you have to be joking

[persiangulf7]

Most Jews today are not even Semites, most of them share the same race as Turkamans and other Caspians.I remember this English Jew, who had blue eyes, blonde, spoke English better than my teacher,said his homeland was Israel,even though he had lived in the UK as far as he could trace his roots. The brainwashing power of Judaism, overpowers a mirror to blind you from seeing what race you are.

[gurufabbes]

Where did you read that garbage?

DNA testing has proved otherwise.

[brabon1]

he got that garbage from a jew hate site

look at his nic...he is just another retarded muslim who looks for reasons to hate jews

[7beers]

Jews do not claim to be Semites. They claim to be members of a religion.

[isralien23]

kahane lives!

[RepublicanStones]

Israel is an illegal country. Zionists are western and soviet settlers. Zionists out, you don't even look or sound like your from the middle east. Fascist fucks !

[Mishkafofer]

The Jews give the Middle east a better name, at least one place in Middle East where gay people are not executed, at least one place where Arab woman can elect and drive cars or have lovers, at least one place where you can surf the web freely curse the government of Israel and no body will stop you.

Yes Israel is different.

[mangojuice7]

Two evil Jews.

[annalisason]

and you are an evil nazi

[mangojuice7]

Actually zionists like yourself are nazis. You share a belief in ethnic cleansing, land grabbing, a "chosen people"/ master race, lebensraum, collective punishment, ethnically pure settlements etc etc

[annalisason]

I am not a zionist since I am not a Jew. I´m just pro-Israel.

[mangojuice7]

You don't have to be a Jew to be a zionist. There are Christian zionists too. Regardless, its an evil creed.

[zinkcoo]

How so?

[redcollargedeon]

Anyone who wants tolerance and understanding about the Dome of the Rock should consider Kahane's arguement. Muslims should never have build Al Aqsa mosque on that location.

[mtross70]

israel should've removed that dome in 1967 when they had the chance. they had the enemy on his knees. they could've expelled the palistinians and blew that dome off the rock in one swoop.

[DirtyJew88]

Kahane and Irv Rubin both got what they deserved. And God bless Frank Weltner for

his Christian work of exposing the satan

worshipping jews.

Oy vey, jews in exile. Shalom

[d0r0s]

Anybody notice that the debate, where Noam Chomsky utterly obliterates Alan Dershowitz at Harvard, has completely disappeared off YouTube?

[theychosen1]

There is no fact in 'The Case for Israel' that has been proven false

[TejanoChimbo]

♥ ♥ ♥ Israel is a pain in the áss

[urbansounds101]

Just because Alan Dershowitz's book, 'The Case for Israel' was proven to be a hoax and a fraud, does not mean that Alan is not a great Lawyer. He did well witht the O.J Simpson trial and just because his latest book is a proven fraud and hoax does not give people the right to discredit him on all grounds.

[dizzaxter]

ya its a hoax, back that up

[anyusmoon1]

I wonder if Dershowitz thinks the constitution of the United States of AMerica is also, ever changing, generation to generation. If so he is wrong, the word is written, we are a country of laws not men and the jew is of the Torah, not of men. You cannot hold together on your whims the laws of country or G-d. We strive for goodness, rightness to be better according to the written word.

[BulldogJew]

Great debate. rabbi Kahane ultimately beats prof. Dershowitz in the debate. More importantly, events elapsed since, prooved how right Kahane was!

[neothomist1275]

Dershowitz has recommended that the government should issue "torture warrants," authorizing such measures as sticking needles under the fingernails of suspected terrorists. Yes, this famed "civil liberties activist" (as the press called him when his chief passion was defending pornographers).

[BulldogJew]

Rabbi Kahane ZT"L HY"D, the greatest leader of our generation! His ideas are genuine Torah Judaism and will prevail, G-d willing. Am Israel Chai! Od Kahane Chai!

[rellikmilsum]

Great Jew vs. self-hating Jew

[redcollargedeon]

I'd say "Great human being vs dhimmi", but that's just me.

I'm not a jew, and I honestly believe Kahane was right and that his ways of resolving the palestinien conflic were as good as they get.

Too bad Israel keeps voting socialists into power.

Playing nice with a bully never gets rid of the bully.

[dawntreader3]

This debate is awesome!

[7beers]

I wish the moderator would have just let them debate.

[muhjaheed]

Until al Quds

[YamaniNetsi]

Will never happen

[BulldogJew]

He probably meant from Yerushalaem, not to al Quds.

[anyusmoon1]

Is there anything written by Rabbi Kahane on his views of Chabad?

[YamaniNetsi]

It is well known that rabbi Kahane, ZT"L HY"D had a tremendous respect for Lyubavitcher rebbe and for the movement. I think that rebbe had a similar mutual admiration, but I am 100% certain if they met. They might have.There were, of course, some significant differences, and to me Kahanism represents a True Torah Judaism.

[JewishResistance]

@anyusmoon1

Kahane is very much respected in Chabad circles because he never represented himself as a politicianbut as a rabbi, im not sure if there was ever dialoge between the Rebbe and Kahane, but there is a video of kahane's son getting a dollar from the Rebbe and the Rebbe gave him an extra dollar in the memory of his father brcause this was after he had been murdered. Not 100% sure if this is real but i hear the Rebbe said he agreed with Kahane but the world wasnt ready for him yet.