Untoward Consequences

[littleyellowkite]

They have been able to shut down moral judgment for a short time with a fMRI..

Jay Leno commented,"There is nothing new about that.Its called beer"....

[SomethingSea1]

But... WHY is it? I've heard this as explanation for why potsmoking renders schizophrenia: it's people crossing these types of boundaries. Going along an Alan Watts-ish view, they've returned to what they are - observers. It's the basis behind what I feel conflict about; I often feel trapped in a body that requires input, and that I can't just be, without that concern. "Chasing the Wild Pendulum" puts that this type of activity (physical reality) results from lack of spiritual responsibility.

[premed2]

@SomethingSea1

Don't believe I've heard the phrase spiritual responsibility before, but I think of things more in terms of physiology, and conditioning. We don't end where our body ends. We evolved to interact with the environment. Just as the brain does not function without the body (we cannot create a functioning brain in a jar without also creating a pseudo-body), so a person without external stimulus will gradually become disorganized. possibly suffering irreversible damage.

[SomethingSea1]

"Don't believe I've heard the phrase spiritual responsibility before"

Got it from "Chasing The Wild Pendulum".

"so a person without external stimulus will gradually become disorganized. possibly suffering irreversible damage."

Whoa. That's a cool thought.

[premed2]

@SomethingSea1 That's because becoming disorganized and possibly suffering irreversible damage is cool.

[DonQuixotedeKaw]

@premed2 Unless you're Bradly Manning.

I call the common human requirement for external stimuli; anthrosensual addiction.

Have you seen the movie Serenity? You're almost describing Miranda;

"The G-23 Paxilon Hydrochlorate that we added to the air processors. It was supposed to calm the population,... it works. The people here stopped fighting. And then they stopped everything else... There's 30 million people here, and they all just let themselves die. "

[premed2]

@DonQuixotedeKaw No I haven't, sounds interesting. Is it related the the Firefly TV series?

[DonQuixotedeKaw]

@premed2 Yes, and I just gave you the least important spoiler of the movie.

It's a very cerebral action sci-fi. Give it a watch.

[SomethingSea1]

@premed2 "so a person without external stimulus will gradually become disorganized. possibly suffering irreversible damage."

Fuck... that's a perfect explanation for why things are rather shitty. That's what religion and statism do, and replace with indoctrination that ultimately reduces to just that: disorganized and suffering irreversible damage.

[fractal420]

Awesome blend of science fiction and science reality. The experiments involving exposing the brain to electro magnetic fields that induce 'haunting' feelings interest me.

[premed2]

@fractal420

Portable TCS kits are one of the many devices DARPA is researching. Apple is anticipated to roll out iThink devices in time for Christmas 2012 if they can work out battery life issues.

[phenixwryter]

Comfortably numb, eh? Bummer about what to do with the subjects. You broke it, you bought it, I reckon.

Txs for creeping me out, doc. ; )

[premed2]

@phenixwryter glad too!

[2bsirius]

This seems as if it must have come out of a Michael Crichton novel, if he'd written comedy that is.

[CaptainFrantic]

@2bsirius - Goddamn it! Every time I come up with something intelligent to put in the comments of Rich's videos, some smart alec ALWAYS beats me to it. *frosty glare* =P

@premed2 - What she said. I believe this is one of those "brilliant" vids you were talking about. Faved.

[premed2]

@CaptainFrantic

Yes thanks, I tried. I've never REALLY tried though, I feel if I did I might lose too great a volume of my precious bodily fluids. :P

[premed2]

@2bsirius Well "Sphere" the book, not the movie, is so bad its laughable.

I'm not sure though if many folks saw where I was going with this--not much feedback. The test subjects experienced the world (and themelves) as it really is. We are protected from their fate because no mater how much we may deny free will intelectually, we cannot reconcile our intellectual with our experiential worldviews. Their experiences caused a switch to irreversibly flip. Without the illusion they disapear...

[2bsirius]

@premed2

I got the William Shatner, Star Trek reference but liked mine better...

[premed2]

@2bsirius You would :P I suppose you also got my reference, in my comment above, to you? ;D

[littleyellowkite]

Have you ever heard of dissociative reaction.As though your body is a shell and you have stepped out of it.The mind's way of defending itself.Been there done that.Have no control over it.don't like it...

[EpifanesEuergetes]

Well, I still communicate but mostly through utuub comments.

[premed2]

@EpifanesEuergetes

In that case its time for your next treatment. It won't hurt at all, but you may feel a little SSSSSSSIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICCCCC­CCK.

[TheLaughingOut]

Sounds neat! Where can I volunteer?

[premed2]

@TheLaughingOut

You realize this is not just an E-meter? Its a neural neutralizer man! Its like variablast, only 150 thousand times more powerful, and it sings a whole lot better, but at ear shattering volume.

[TheLaughingOut]

@premed2 Yeah yeah yeah, just gimme the address.

[premed2]

@TheLaughingOut

1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW Washington, DC

[TheLaughingOut]

@premed2 I did it! I did it... I did... I.......

[urwormfood]

Beware of the Senders.................

[premed2]

@urwormfood

Phishing

[urwormfood]

@premed2 You keep me hooked the Burroughs my friend....I drink more Ovaltine with a shot of Baileys.. when you post a good vid like this...:) --cheers--

[gothatfunk]

you almost put me into a coma.

[premed2]

@gothatfunk

A backhanded compliment, ehh? ;)

[MAXBLAYLOCK]

This is really great. Quite possibly your best video to date.

[premed2]

@MAXBLAYLOCK

Thanks! It just shows you what one can do by not focusing on variablast.

[Elenkhos]

I'll be back. I have to go pull forks out of my eyes.

[premed2]

@Elenkhos

No, leave em in. It could be the next fad in body piercing.