and this is why superman is the greatest superhero ever. such a poignant and beautiful scene from a wonderful film, a film that hit the mark about the most powerful ability superman has, his love for others.
This movie was so great. I love the little tidbits they added like the key made out of the a white dwarf star etc. His lifting an insane amount of weights which they compared from a realistic point of view. That's what made Justice League the best cartoon ever for me. It was how they related a lot of their things to physics and physical perspectives.
Who can keep up with the constant reboots and various writers takes on things? The ONLY constant in the DCU, is that just when you think you've seena definitive answer on a character's power level, some hack writer with an agenda will scrap what you think you know, and THEN DC will have yet ANOTHER reality altering summer event involving history unfolding differently. I wish I could travel 1000 yrsahead in time just to get future advil for trying to wrap my head around DC continuity.
@HeavyWeaponsGuy1963 it should be easier now, DCu is rebooted and they plan on keepin it that way. plus superman is back to his 1940s personality and has a better suit. Meaning Supes is officially a badass now. I never cared about his boyscout image.
Dr. Quintin thinks & assumed Supe was dying & Supe convinced on Dr, Quintin's analysis. However, Dr. Quintin is wrong, so does Superman once he realize that flying through the sun actually transformed Supe even more powerful being. This continuity of this All Start Superman flying into the sun was revealed in the 12 issue comic of the "DC One Million". See the last issue, last page revealing what Superman has become. "Superman Prime One-Million" the Omnipotent golden GOD BEING
all you guys talking about flash and shit. Flash got destroyed by superman with just a flick of his finger in the new rebooted universe which is canon. Batman and hal jordan also got their asses whooped, it goes to show you how superior superman is to batman in a fight. Where was his pussy ass kryptonite now? lol suck my dick haters!
@melvinmaverick Bla bla bla... Why does Superman has to be the best in all fields? Honestly, what fun is a character that has no restrictions whatsoever? What's the point in having a Flash if he's not the fastest there is (which he is by the way, regardless what fanboy writers on crack blurt out). Soon you'll say that Superman is second to God alone... or that he's on par with God.
@Kotlettbengt i never said superman was faster bro, i said in a fight superman kicked his ass with a flick of his finger. The same with batman who was getting protection from hal jordan a freaking green lantern.it goes to show you that without kryptonite batmans a weak ass fuck human, who realistically cant touch superman on his best day, with out ofcourse terrible writing. the event i talk about happened recently in comics.
@Kotlettbengt ignore all you want, the proof is in the comics, and flash and batman haters can now suck a dick, since they made them look silly recently.
@melvinmaverick "Proof"? Dude, it's not like Superman is actually out there somewhere in another dimension sneezing out solar systems and choking on kryptonite, all that has to be done is for another writer to come in and make the Flash even faster and whatever "proof" you can find will be moot. There is no truth.
@Kotlettbengt once again, i did not say superman was faster nor do i care about that.
i simply said to all you dick sucking flash fans that, flash and batman+plus hal jordan got their asses whooped by one man, the man of fucking steel! in a canon storyline which is part of the new 52 in the Dc rebooted universe. Basically While superman isnt the fastest he was fast enough to tag flash and handle the other two. i give a rats ass, what fields supermans best in.
@melvinmaverick Well, he was canon back then, what's the difference now? The current Superman might as well not be canon in twenty years, so who's the real Superman? The one who gets killed by Doomsday or the one who erases a whole army of Doomsdays with a single eye laser blast?
@Kotlettbengt the Canon superman is the current one in his main storyline.The doomsday army was super weak compared to the real doomsday. The one who got killed by doomsday was the same superman, but he was just weaker at the time. Before the universe was rebooted he was smashing planets and was on the cosmic power level. Now the reboot has begun, so we go by the rebooted superman. which begins from Action comics#1 Superman#1 And Jutice league #1. Thats current supes.
@melvinmaverick Yeah I know, but I hate him, Superman isn't supposed to be that powerful. I like Supes best when he actually gets a headache from nuclear weapons and is only strong enough to move a small planetoid with outside help, he's much more interesting to read about when he has to actually struggle to beat his enemies.
@Kotlettbengt funny thing is, The canon superman before the reboot was doin more overpowered stuff than all star superman, yet people think all star superman is overpowered.
@melvinmaverick No overpowered Superman will ever be canon to me. When heroes shrug off galaxy-shattering explosions like they were minor nuisances, it just takes away the coolness of it and you no longer care about how powerful the attacker was. Not inspiring at all, I prefer it when a hero rises up after a severe beatdown, broken but refusing to stay down, I don't give a crap about smug heroes who just go around being invincible, they're as interesting as watching paint get dry.
@Kotlettbengt In terms of Superheros in the DC universe Superman struggled with more on his morale's and humanity then in is powers. Powers don't make the hero, that's why Superman was everyone's morale compass he was the anchor he was the leader of the Justice League. And in terms of of godliness there were other beings in the Universe who were more powerful than him such as Darkseid or Brainiac. And Im assuming you didn't watch this movie to understand why he seemed more powerful.
@Crisshomes1 Not being a troll Supeboy-prime or Superman-prime is a superman from the multiverse who just won't quit bitching on how Earth-Prime was far superior than the main DC universe
Listen everybody your constant bickering is stupid flash is faster because its his tradmark its his thing the one thing that he can do better than anyone and im saying this because i love superman flash batman wonderman green lantern and the rest of the crew but superman is my favorite and im saying flash is faster
I love both superman and flash, ok fine superman isnt faster than the flash but he's has flight, supersenses, invulnerability, and superstrength, reguardless of how fast flash is he's still human and all humans have limits
i feel your deluded in big way, firstly because you know Superman is Superman, and that his capabilitys are unlimited in every respect when pushed, and secondly in knowing this you make an exception with one,...now everyone and the whole world cant be wrong...Superman is leaps and bounds ahead of ''ANY'' hero ...ohh wait but he's slow when it comes to Flash...WRONG...Superman can and has beat Flash when he's needed to.....stop being so silly
I've begun to appreciate Superman more recently, but what irritates me is that he doesn't seem to have a limit but will do whatever feat required for the situation he's in. Can someone tell me what he CANNOT do strength- and durability-wise? Serious question because I'm tired of reading about him pushing planets and holding together black holes, that's just corny =/
@Kotlettbengt i dont think so..in doing what he dose Superman is ultimately SUPER'' ...Flash however much i love him and i do..still has so many floors compared to that of Superman......including speed
@Kotlettbengt floors as in human..and many more ways to hurt and in fact kill him as posed to Superman..''fact'' also its ''never'' been established that Flash is the fastest being in the universe..he maybe amoung men, and not once in all the illustraitions has Flash ver overcome Superman either as a being or through speed.......
Superman #199 by Jim Shooter and Curt Swan (1967) The Flash #175 by E. Nelson Bridwell and Ross Andru (1967) World’s Finest #198-199 by Denny O’Neil and Dick Dillin (1970) DC Comics Presents #1-2 by Martin Pasko and José Luis García-Lopez (1978) Adventures of Superman #463 by Dan Jurgens (1990) DC First: Flash/Superman by Geoff Johns and Rick Burchett (2002)
in all these Flash has never overcome Kal-el...i have them all
@apollonas101 The Flash once easily outran Kal-El in a speed contest, Superman said that he had beaten the Flash in contest before, and the Flash simply replied "Those were for charity, Clark" and then speeded away and left Superman looking slow. Official data says that the Flash is the fastest being in the universe. Also, there would be absolutely no point having a Flash if Superman were faster. The Flash >>> Superman, whether you like it or not. Even Superboy Prime was slower than the Flash.
@Kotlettbengt what im trying to say to you..''is that i have every single comic edition in which they race, and what you say has never happened in any of them'' so please if you could in factt tell me which issue ive missed ill be greatfull as ive been collecting them for 25 years''..also Superman saved Flash in Smallville when racing in high voltage container....Superman of now and silver age are ''UNBEATABLE IN EVERY RESPECT'' even DC dont know his capabilities when pushed.
@apollonas101 The fight I mentioned happened in Flash: Rebirth #2. You might as well stop arguing about this because it is not a question of opinion. The Flash IS faster than any version of Superman, and his speed feats are far superior to Superman's greatest. Superman is NOT unbeatable in every aspect. Go to any forum or information page and they will confirm it. Furthermore, the Flash also beat Superman in World's Finest #198-199, DC Comics Presents #1-2 and The Adventures of Superman #463.
@Kotlettbengt its not a question of opinion...Supeman is and was voted the ggreatest hero and protector earth has because of his struture as hero,..Flash couldn't make that position because as i said like many other heros he is too floored and could get wiped out a great deal easier'' in regards to this edition where Flash beats Superman ...ill look this up!! and DC have said numerous times, that when pushed Kal-el is capable of absolutely ''ANYTHING'' and that would include beating Flash
@apollonas101 Don't throw words back at me when you don't know the truth. Superman may be able to occasionally beat the Flash in races if the Flash isn't determined enough, but if the Flash is focused, he'll outrun anything and anyone. The Flash is basically able to move as fast as he wants, so even if Superman can exceed 1000 times the speed of light it wouldn't matter. Some fanboys even consider All-Star Superman to be as powerful as God himself. I hope you're not one of these deluded fools.
@Kotlettbengt well first of all Superman is capable of absolutely ''anything'' within the comic world..making him earths greatest protector...''FACT'' also voted al time best Super-hero..because of who he is and the less floors he has compaed to that of Flash....Flash maybe the fastest man...but if man kind depended on it or a life depended on it, i assure you Superman would obliterate Flash in anyway shape or form..''FACT'' and also no i would never compare anything or anyone to God, you prat
@apollonas101 I never said Superman isn't the greatest hero, he most certainly is, and yes, in a mission to save the universe, Superman is the one you'd want to recruit. I do not however agree that Superman would obliterate Flash in a fight - sure, theoretically he has weapons that would kill the Flash, but the Flash could take a nap before deciding to dodge Superman's attacks, he's just that fast. Anyway, I wasn't discussing whom of them would win in a fight, just who would win in a race.
@Kotlettbengt firstly Clark already had to become faster than Flash to save his life in Smallville episode 11 s 6, and secondly he's already beat Flash by flight, and if peoples lives depended on it,..what ever the case Superman would indeed obliterate Flash in speed or any other hero for anything else for that matter,..and Superman would crush Flash like grape with his bare hands...without weapons!!...and im saying Flash maybe the fastest man..not being!! Superman could beat him if need be
@apollonas101 Well, you're wrong. And Smallville is something completely different. Unless Flash is smug enough not to utilize his full potential in a race against Supes and Supes is as determined as ever, then sure, Supes could beat Flash, but with equal focus, the Flash will always outrun Supes, and any other hero or villain. Ask any comic book expert or go to a number of forums and see which one most people say will win, they will confirm this. Did you read Flash: Rebirth like I told you?
@Kotlettbengt well im not wrong'' and Smallville is rightly based within any DC universe, there for what they use has to co'inside with DC law and rights reserved,...and i own my own super-hero forum and i collect as i told you before so im well aware of abilities and character structure of ''all'' heroes,....Flash is the fastest man but not being,...also if Supes had to beat him he could...end of!!!!
@apollonas101 It's not "end of" just because you say so. I really don't have much more to give you as proof, as I've already given you examples of instances where the Flash has won over Supes, one of which the Flash easily did so and called their earlier races "charity". Face it, Superman isn't omnipotent, if someone shot Lois Lane point blank in the face and Supes was a hundred galaxies away when the bullet left the gun, he wouldn't reach Lois in time to save her. Fash on the other hand might.
@Kotlettbengt Well im afraid it is end of'' or am i the only one that calls him ''SUPER..MAN'' he's called Superman because his capabilities entitle him to be any to do everything and anything, including obliterating Flash with speed, Flash has limits to what he can do all round..Superman dosen't big difference, in which case someone with les floors would have better chance than someone with more, so it stands to reason, Flash maybe fastest man..not being, and if Supes wanted he beat Flash easy
@apollonas101 It's the other way around, The Flash has no limits whatsoever to his speed, while Supes does. Superman is the all around better hero though so chill out. He's not called Super because he can do anything, he's called Super because he has a wider range of abilities than any other hero and is the greatest hero of all, it doesn't mean he can top anyone. You think Superman can cross the universe in a second? Have you checked out those forums yet? And don't you mean flaws, not "floors"?
@Kotlettbengt No'' you seem to misunderstand..Superman has no limits what so ever..to ''anything'' hence the name Superman'' he's even able when pushed to overcome kryptonite, ;Superman is as i say again the ''only'' DC character who is capable and can do ''ANYTHING'' this title alone makes him unique to any other so then why would speed be the only exception....its isn't...i love Flash and he is the fastest man...not being, and if needs be...Superman could speed burn him easily
@apollonas101 Sigh... You're so full of delusion... or denial, whatever it may be. "Super" doesn't mean "omnipotent", it simply means excellent or extreme. What do you think Superman would do if the Earth was obliterated and everyone on it was killed? Turn back time? You do know that for real Superman can't do that like he did in that shitty movie? Superman can't resurrect people or fix an obliterated planet, and he cannot beat the Flash in a contest. Go. To. The. Fucking. Forums.
@apollonas101 Ok, first of all I don't accept anyone calling me a CUNT, ok scum??? Especially not over comic book matters. And secondly, Superman is NOT the best in all areas - sure, he may have the most powerful heat vision and freezing breath, but he's neither the strongest nor the fastest. I asked you a simple question, have you checked what others have to say about this, or do you blindly trust your own smug opinion that Superman is God? And more importantly, did you read Flash: Rebirth?
@Kotlettbengt yeah i checked it out and it proves nothing more that one variation of an opinionated subject, which proved my point completely, Superman can be everything and anything he chooses because thats how the comic writers have made him since 35''.... ''he's Superman'' and NOONE'' comes close, sure i have other favorites but by public opinion and sales wise Superman is the best,..im sorry weather thats hard for you to accept but it's, Superman is much faster DUMMY!!!
@apollonas101 So you won't even believe the comics when they present fact right before your eyes? Well, then there isn't much more I can do. Just do yourself a favor. Ask a few more people who they think is the fastest, and then see for yourself what most of them say (and don't go to a Superman fanpage, go to a neutral forum). And Google the Flash's speed feats. The fact that the Flash is faster than Superman doesn't change the fact that Superman is the better hero, so calm down for Cerist sake.
@Kotlettbengt nothing has ever substantiated in comics of movie that Superman is any less than what he is, so then if his capabilities are unlimited..why then would he be limited to a human who was just fast?? ..well he's not and he wasn't..ive collected comics for 25 years, and at face value im telling you whats what within the comic would..''NO HERO CAN STAND UP TO SUPERMAN'' ohh and Superman silver age is unbeatable'' you may want to look that up.,im sorry but Superman could beat him
@apollonas101 I think I'm done with you. I've shown you examples of the Flash outspeeding Supes, but you won't listen. You haven't went to the forums as I've recommended either, thus we're stuck in a deadlock. Well, I guess that you're entitled to your opinion as the only "real" DC is the individual ones we create in our minds after interpreting the comics the way we do, but let me ask you this: What's the point of having a Flash, or any other hero, if Superman can beat them in all areas?
@Kotlettbengt ..er well you've not shown me anything that cant be questioned? Superman however has far more cases of showing Supremacy than Flash, i have my own forum my friend and im a member of several others, so i see and understand your point of view, however Superman is Superman'' and there is NO'' competition, Superman can beat them all in all areas, but thats not the point, these heros are all still needed, and i love them all, and ive enjoyed speaking with you, i apologise if i was rood
@apollonas101 Superman is more commonly used in comics, so naturally he has more showings. In DC, velocity is referred to in terms of barriers - sound barrier, light barrier, time barrier, dimensional barrier, and finally the Speed Force barrier. Superman I think can reach the time barrier, or at most the dimensional barrier. Wally West has been confirmed as the fastest being who has ever lived, human or alien. Supes is probably among the top ten. I appreciate your apologize, and I accept it =)
@apollonas101 Also, just to establish how fast the Flash is. He once outran Death itself by speeding to the end of time, past entropy and into the next universe. A light-speed attack seemed to be completely still to Wally West, and he was able to carry over half a million people 35 miles away from a nuclear blast (including the ones at ground zero) in a 0.0001 microsecond. He has moved in an attosecond (one attosecond is to one second what one second is to the age of the unvierse). Cool, eh? :P
@Kotlettbengt ohh yeah i know....and that is soo Cool, i always felt Flash could've done with few more abilities though,....but i love him and think he's fantastic''
@MrHoppers002 How so? Well, he wouldn't have to effort himself to death to outrun Superman anyway, I think outrunning Death into the next universe is fast enough.
@MrHoppers002 And why should Pre-crisis Superman have that kind of speed? Flash always has been and always will be faster than Superman, and faster than any other DC character or being for that matter. This is as common knowledge as the fact that no one tops The One Above All in Marvel. I'm really not into starting another debate about this because I recently made peace with another guy I debated, so please let's not start this again.
cause no one should be out of superman's league. that's what the character is about. able ot hang with any character even if that character is "superior" to superman.
@Dramactica Well, yes, it's piece of cake to throw a piece of kryptonite into the room where Supes is sleeping. And correct me if I'm wrong, but last time I checked the Flash's supersenses work even on a subconscious level, so shooting him in his sleep won't work.
@Kotlettbengt In the discussion of Superman, kryptonite is a very rare radioactive rock. One of the reasons why Luther lost his hair when experiment on him and cause him cancer. So, it is impossible for you to have this rare piece.
Superman have supersense on a subconscious level. Listen, if you think that Flash beat Superman, you are wrong. The Flash miss one punch of Superman because his super speed. If you don't believe in me, why just go to Google. There is a image of it.
@Dramactica The Flash is faster than Superman, and that's not up to debate like some think. The few occasions when Superman has been able to match the Flash is bullshit - Captain America was able to KO the Hulk, does that mean he can do it? No, it's bullshit writing by biased or misinformed writers. Even Superboy Prime feared the Flash. Read Flash: Rebirth, where Superman and the Flash is racing and the Flash says that their previous races were for charity and then leaves SUperman in the dust.
@Kotlettbengt theres a canon book well it was before the reboot of DC, flash couldnt keep up with batman. dc is inconsistent as hell and so is batman lol, hulk got knocked out by a fire truck, once, hes not unbetable, captain america got in that ass.
@Kotlettbengt It is up to debate. You simply don't know the character. The Flash is indeed the fastest Superhero in existence but not by as much as you believe he is. Superman has reflexes on PAR with The Flash, being able to catch his hand when Wally was trying to punch him at Superspeed. Superman has flew straight to the Vega Galaxy from the Earth in 10 minutes which equals to close to 140 million times the speed of light.
@ShadowHunter31 140 million lol, 500 million times the speed of light is basic flash, Old comic books, Flash was 75 trillion times the speed of light. Some can say on earth that's omnipotence capabilities. Generating that speed has 10,000 times the power of a exploding white star an with those combined he could destroy thousands of galaxy's in minutes. It'll only depend on the writer of the super hero because your supes now can barley lift giant boats, In comics he could sneez away galaxys.
@bigwaverider1000 A boat? The guy fucking lifted a book holding the Multiverse. Wake up. He held a black hole in his hand, moved a being 400 times bigger then Jupiter, slow down Eternity, etc. Stop with that shit and stop your fanboyism about Flash. Ohh Flash can do IMP... Well, Superman can do and has done it on the Dark Moon. And 500 millions? Prove it.
@ShadowHunter31 Read again asshole, I stated supes had "great power" of SNEEZING AWAY GALAXY'S an I didnt list them all "YET" dumb ass. Apparently you are a fucking noob, If you dont know the flash has ALREADY hit 75 trillion times the speed of light in old comics. Common give me a fucking break thousands of above the 80s 90s 2000s show supes struggling, When big objects are smashed on him. Its not my job to educate the dumb an ignorant. Go look! You have YouTube then you have Google go LOOK!
@bigwaverider1000 Wow, you get all mad over comics? Grow up some balls child. It doesn't exist in case you didn't know. Maybe you should try to fly like Superman and jump over a building? I don't fucking care about Pre-Crisis feats. Everything was retconned and in case you didn't know, everything about The Flash was retconned too. Read some comics then come back here when you get some knowledge. Go read the recent arc. You are entertaining me and making me laugh alot.
@ShadowHunter31 "Grow up some balls"? XD what the fuck is that kinda of grammer? Not only Im laughing but the whole world is gonna laugh at that idiotic put together of a lame come back XD. What dosent exist?That before the speed force was even thought of ,The flash had raw speed power that allowed him to carry 500,000 Koreans 2 at a time 35 miles away from a atom bomb explosion, In less than a micro second! Do the math that's 75 trillion times the speed of light ,Yeah I learned your an Idiot!!!
@bigwaverider1000 See? You don't read any comics so why don't you don't post anymore idiot?
1. He went inside a RED SUN that was surrounded by KRYPTONITE and crash landed on the planet MOGO. There, he fought Superboy Prime who was using KRYPTONITE to his advantage. SUPERMAN WON.
2. Read the first.
3. Doomsday was stronger you idiot. Read comics like I said.
4. Superman can absorb ENERGY from rocks, heat, electricity, human body, etc. FAIL
@ShadowHunter31 lol your exaggeration your self like every superman whore doesXDXD who said red radiation can kill superman? I said it will take away his powers so you can kill him just by bashing his head in like superboy prime did to the old superman XDXD your so full of shit show me a link where supes destroys even a small planet XDXD you cant why because your making shit up ive read comics where he knocked him self out by flying into a small moon an martian man hunter had to find his body.
5. Superman survived easily being HIT by the wizard SHAZAM (Not Captain Marvel. The REAL one). Shazam was using electric bolts on him. That didn't stop him.
6. Power Disruptor? lollll that would fucking work on everyone you idiot.
7. If you would read COMICS, not NON-CANON TV SERIE, you would know that even MARTIAN MANHUNTER can't get in Superman's mind without his consent because his will is too strong.
@bigwaverider1000 Infinite Mass Punch isn't a fucking power you idiot. Go back to school. Superman has done it many times in the past. I don't freaking care lol!
@ShadowHunter31 You dont know shit about the flash, only the person hes been down graded to from crappy writers. The flash is so fast he can out run death him self with the speed force he can travel billions of years into the past or future. I havent even named 1/10th the different powers flash has, He ran to the end of time an is so fast he can out run himself. So if you believe supes got anything on the flash than you havent read or seen anything of worth reading besides bullshit cartoons.
@bigwaverider1000 1.Flash can only time travel with the cosmic treadmill.
2.The Flash has limits as well.
3.supermans fast enough to react to flash and smash his face with his pinky. Out of character supes can fly out to space and zap the planet flash was on.
@melvinmaverick The flash can generate so much friction, when he runs he can run on it just like hundreds of old comics, show him racing zoom around the galaxy, modern flash has been made slower but even modern flash hasent toped out yet. If so show me where he was struggling to meet his pursuing speed. lol supes couldn't even get threw lex alien armor that had metal 10,000 times stronger than earths steel an flash use speed to generate power to break it when supes couldent, watch Speed force.
@melvinmaverick ill just copy an paste from dc comics data base it self mr dumb fuck Steal Speed: He is able to "steal" speed and/or momentum from anyone or anything, including beings such as Superman or Inertia effectively turning them into living statues. Also can steal speed from bullets and other fast moving objects thrown at him or at others. This ability is so great, that he once took the speed from the entire planet, and its population, including the very fast beings such as Superman,
@melvinmaverick being bias? give me a break i dont even like flash i just know at full potential he can make supes look like a chump so why dont you just type in wally west dc data base in google an read his bio of TODAY not in the 70s dumb ass you can read 4 to 5 pages on his feats lol just telling someone go study when you havent a clue what your talking about deserves a slap in the face you punk bitch
@bigwaverider1000 you missed the part when those are one time things which he dosent do constantly you twit. he keeps getting hurt by low tier scrubs and flash currently cant do any of that now shut the fuck up you sound stupider each time.
@melvinmaverick How knowing about dc am i suppose to be a geek if you know superman wouldent that make you a geek too dumbfuck come up with something oringinal XD no since talking to you because if you neglect what the people who MADE (DC) who says what they can do then its like talking to a fucking wall lol you only want to use a weak version of flash vs pre crisis superman which shows your a bias bitch against all out flash you got nothing so you wine when his feats are in the fucking text
@bigwaverider1000 not once did i mention pre crisis superman vs flash you dumb fuckhead. you wanna go by non canon shit you dumb bitch? superman set the record for infinite speed, justice lords is non canon you dumb ass fag.its common sense you dumb bitch, if superman amped his speed up and punched, it would make way more damage than flashes, now eat a dick, come back with some real flash facts, u post stupid all day long.
@bigwaverider1000 you dont know shit about flash in the comics, fucking dumb ass go research and buy the comics, and read right, instead of checking databases. Flash currently got his ass whooped by superman so eat ass bitch. You just been owned.
@melvinmaverick XDXD Superman K.Os the flash, Type in the link then... You cant why? Because its all in your mind. Supermans entire race was stupid, They were all told that the planet was going to go an they still stayed. Even the ones who were ""SAYING"" the planet was gonna blow, "Like" uhhhhhhhhh Supermans (Idiot parents) stayed. That right off the back shows how ridiculously stupid kryptonians are.
@melvinmaverick lol you just dont like the fact that supes is outclassed in max out mode flash generated speed to pump up his strength million folds stronger to shatter luthers armor which supes couldent, supes couldent beat his counter part in justice lords which flash did supes cant barly survive smashing threw a moon planet when the flash has a infinite mass punch to destroy the biggest white sun supermans top speed is 25x the speed of light an flashes is 75 trillion x light its all in TEXT.
@bigwaverider1000 I know your posts are old but I have to correct a few things. First before I start I have to say I love the flash way more than duperman. Whether "Crisis on Infinite Earths" is canon or not is not the issue. The issue is your are confusing what flash is doing. He did not punch off luthers armor. He took it off at super high speed. He also beat his counter part the same way he beats all his counter parts. By exploiting their cockiness. A trait that he shares.
@melvinmaverick again read lower comments supes has been destroyed from countless villans weaker an slower than supes I have no time to repeat myself read comments below an those arnt even 1/100th of ways supes already lost.
@bigwaverider1000 It's called bad writting pussy. It's funny that you aren't mentioning the low feats of Flash like him being OWNED by Gorillas! That's freaking powerful isn't?!
@ShadowHunter31 LOL low feats of flashXDXD superman revolves around losing to a human lexx luther XDXDXD thats weaker than a super intelligent gorilla lol supes has had his ass handed to him more than any other superhero ever mongul,lobo,darkseid,atom man,element lad, lexx luther,blackadam,doomsday an I can go on forever on people who bitch slapped around, superman set the record for infinite speed lol again making shit up when there are over a hundred others who left him in the dust.
@pinhead61187 So am I, You an I both know, Saying your gonna do somthing over the internet is astronomically bullshit in the first place. If so why doesent any one use there real names address an all. Why because there are people that want to debate an there are people who want to talk shit. In reality it wont matter because its 99.9999 percent all bullshit but there are that .0000001 percent who actually take the time out when insulted to find them an send a home made bomb to there address ^_^
@bigwaverider1000 lol. yup. if i were being honest, that's the reason when i'm bored i find people engaged in heated arguments and *tweak* them just enough that they fly off the handle. fricking hilarious. one guy was convinced he was "skorpion" (from mortal kombat). the fun just went on...
@pinhead61187 I know on base with majority of all existence of superman an the flash that superman would averagely beat the flash. But not at there highest feats Supes best feat was sneezing away a solar system but even that has no chance at a 75 trillion times the speed of light moving man thats like being omnipotence for a brief amount of time just think if your fast that you can run up to 500,000 people an study each of there facial expressions in one second thats beyond ever getting hit.
@bigwaverider1000 thats were youre wrong his best feats are way above sneezing solar syste,s you stupid prick. 75trillion times the speed of light isnt shit.pre crisis superman isnt the strongest superman you fucking dope.
@pinhead61187 Its pretty funny, How people even make them self up to seem like there fighters, Giant weight lifters an can regulate shit. When in reality, You can slap the living shit out them, Being they are just 130 pound pure pencil neck queers. An whos to say in outcomes anyway, They know the chances youll never find them so they act as if it really is going down. lol cracks me up all the time XDXD in how much people are suddenly black belts an mma fighters lol.
@bigwaverider1000 people are fun to screw with. i'm not just doing it online, though. work, home, church, it doesn't matter. work is especially fun. my coworkers aren't exactly lex luthor-level geniuses, so my boss and i screw with them regularly.
@pinhead61187 This dumb fuck I was addressing, wants to use the flashes weak forms instead of what the makers allowed him to be at a point of time. Being like a small meteorite the size of a marble as soft as a marshmallow moving at light speed can have the same impact of a car at 80 mph smashing into a wall. Now for increase of its speed an size it will intriplicate its force an were talking about at 75 trillion times the speed of light magnifying a standard punch, It would destroy a white sun.
@bigwaverider1000 even if, somehow, due to comic book logic, it didn't detonate the solar system, flash would be killed. as it is, it would destroy the world from the displacement of matter during the punch.
@pinhead61187 Thats where speed of light comes in, If a nucluer bomb went off right in front of his face the speed of light can still get him away before it takes any play on his body an destroys the continent not him. Same prince-able with a planet if he decided to generate that much speed.DC always has the flash at certain speeds around certain places like earth because of the ripple effect if hed jet pass a town at march ten creating a sonic boom he could detonate a bomb in that same matter.
@pinhead61187 Yeah, Your right. An that must tie in with the story of course of a hero being understanble an likable to the average human mind. You cant really make a good storie last of someone that can do everything an have everytype of capabilitie already. So thats why they took the flashes powers down a notch because there are so many consequences that imply when he goes at high speeds in logic, like the big bang theories where in some views hed could create a whole new world at those speeds
@pinhead61187 Dc comics have of course fictional beings that isint possible.what made them more popular than other fictional company brands, Back in the day is because they go by alot of science logic, With alabis of basic knowledge in what ever department they tend to conjur the cause an effect from. kinda like how muscle pills is proven to work an poison is proven to kill a human by chemical reaction to the stomach same with the sun being supes power pills kryptonite being his rat poison lol
@bigwaverider1000 stfu you aint own shit, you feeling yourself too much.stop reading database shit and actualy read the flash you dumb fag. you just got owned.
Zack Snyders man of steel will automatically be good if he includes this music.
FLICKGEEK 1 week ago
and this is why superman is the greatest superhero ever. such a poignant and beautiful scene from a wonderful film, a film that hit the mark about the most powerful ability superman has, his love for others.
drshema 1 week ago
i bet batman could do that AND comeback home to help robin with his homework
theXtreme1man 3 weeks ago
@theXtreme1man BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNG
cancerjuly1989 3 weeks ago
Batman is still greater
kytron121 1 month ago
@kytron121 BOOORRRRRRRRRING
cancerjuly1989 3 weeks ago
All Star Superman is my favorite comic of all time! thank you Grant and Frank!
bort410 1 month ago
Respect the Big Blue
007manahil 1 month ago
Superman achieving speed force through pur energy''
apollonas101 2 months ago
didn't even think twice about giving his life up!!!!! did it in heartbeat.....Superman is the man''
apollonas101 2 months ago 7
Superman achieving COMPLETE SPEED FORCE!!!!!!
apollonas101 2 months ago
is it just me or is supermans cape a little too small for him in this move?
rhysordos2496 2 months ago
@rhysordos2496 agreed. kinda distracting.
SenjiroAkechi 2 months ago
Me encantaría tener una muerte asi :'D
DARKSOUL196 2 months ago
Superman is way to powerful. It's just stupid.
They may as well just give him an electric dick and a gravity bending anus.
hassmann2000 2 months ago
Flash with his speed is the ultimate speedster.
BlackAnvil47 3 months ago
This movie was so great. I love the little tidbits they added like the key made out of the a white dwarf star etc. His lifting an insane amount of weights which they compared from a realistic point of view. That's what made Justice League the best cartoon ever for me. It was how they related a lot of their things to physics and physical perspectives.
MrIkeMann 3 months ago
Who can keep up with the constant reboots and various writers takes on things? The ONLY constant in the DCU, is that just when you think you've seena definitive answer on a character's power level, some hack writer with an agenda will scrap what you think you know, and THEN DC will have yet ANOTHER reality altering summer event involving history unfolding differently. I wish I could travel 1000 yrsahead in time just to get future advil for trying to wrap my head around DC continuity.
HeavyWeaponsGuy1963 3 months ago
@HeavyWeaponsGuy1963 it should be easier now, DCu is rebooted and they plan on keepin it that way. plus superman is back to his 1940s personality and has a better suit. Meaning Supes is officially a badass now. I never cared about his boyscout image.
melvinmaverick 3 months ago
Supe didn't die.
Dr. Quintin thinks & assumed Supe was dying & Supe convinced on Dr, Quintin's analysis. However, Dr. Quintin is wrong, so does Superman once he realize that flying through the sun actually transformed Supe even more powerful being. This continuity of this All Start Superman flying into the sun was revealed in the 12 issue comic of the "DC One Million". See the last issue, last page revealing what Superman has become. "Superman Prime One-Million" the Omnipotent golden GOD BEING
whtukall 3 months ago
all you guys talking about flash and shit. Flash got destroyed by superman with just a flick of his finger in the new rebooted universe which is canon. Batman and hal jordan also got their asses whooped, it goes to show you how superior superman is to batman in a fight. Where was his pussy ass kryptonite now? lol suck my dick haters!
melvinmaverick 4 months ago
@melvinmaverick fuck yea! sick of all the Superman haters saying Batman would beat him and shit, give me a fucking break.
farizzal 3 months ago
@melvinmaverick Bla bla bla... Why does Superman has to be the best in all fields? Honestly, what fun is a character that has no restrictions whatsoever? What's the point in having a Flash if he's not the fastest there is (which he is by the way, regardless what fanboy writers on crack blurt out). Soon you'll say that Superman is second to God alone... or that he's on par with God.
Kotlettbengt 3 months ago
@Kotlettbengt i never said superman was faster bro, i said in a fight superman kicked his ass with a flick of his finger. The same with batman who was getting protection from hal jordan a freaking green lantern.it goes to show you that without kryptonite batmans a weak ass fuck human, who realistically cant touch superman on his best day, with out ofcourse terrible writing. the event i talk about happened recently in comics.
melvinmaverick 3 months ago
@Kotlettbengt ignore all you want, the proof is in the comics, and flash and batman haters can now suck a dick, since they made them look silly recently.
melvinmaverick 3 months ago
@melvinmaverick "Proof"? Dude, it's not like Superman is actually out there somewhere in another dimension sneezing out solar systems and choking on kryptonite, all that has to be done is for another writer to come in and make the Flash even faster and whatever "proof" you can find will be moot. There is no truth.
Kotlettbengt 3 months ago
@Kotlettbengt once again, i did not say superman was faster nor do i care about that.
i simply said to all you dick sucking flash fans that, flash and batman+plus hal jordan got their asses whooped by one man, the man of fucking steel! in a canon storyline which is part of the new 52 in the Dc rebooted universe. Basically While superman isnt the fastest he was fast enough to tag flash and handle the other two. i give a rats ass, what fields supermans best in.
melvinmaverick 3 months ago
@Kotlettbengt there is truth if you stick to canon material.
the superman you described which sneezes planets is basically erased from the DCU, so your arguement is moot.
melvinmaverick 3 months ago
@melvinmaverick Well, he was canon back then, what's the difference now? The current Superman might as well not be canon in twenty years, so who's the real Superman? The one who gets killed by Doomsday or the one who erases a whole army of Doomsdays with a single eye laser blast?
Kotlettbengt 3 months ago
@Kotlettbengt the Canon superman is the current one in his main storyline.The doomsday army was super weak compared to the real doomsday. The one who got killed by doomsday was the same superman, but he was just weaker at the time. Before the universe was rebooted he was smashing planets and was on the cosmic power level. Now the reboot has begun, so we go by the rebooted superman. which begins from Action comics#1 Superman#1 And Jutice league #1. Thats current supes.
melvinmaverick 3 months ago
@Kotlettbengt well until those twenty years pass, we use the canon superman. you do know all star superman s non canon right?
melvinmaverick 3 months ago
@melvinmaverick Yeah I know, but I hate him, Superman isn't supposed to be that powerful. I like Supes best when he actually gets a headache from nuclear weapons and is only strong enough to move a small planetoid with outside help, he's much more interesting to read about when he has to actually struggle to beat his enemies.
Kotlettbengt 3 months ago
@Kotlettbengt funny thing is, The canon superman before the reboot was doin more overpowered stuff than all star superman, yet people think all star superman is overpowered.
melvinmaverick 3 months ago
@melvinmaverick No overpowered Superman will ever be canon to me. When heroes shrug off galaxy-shattering explosions like they were minor nuisances, it just takes away the coolness of it and you no longer care about how powerful the attacker was. Not inspiring at all, I prefer it when a hero rises up after a severe beatdown, broken but refusing to stay down, I don't give a crap about smug heroes who just go around being invincible, they're as interesting as watching paint get dry.
Kotlettbengt 3 months ago
@Kotlettbengt In terms of Superheros in the DC universe Superman struggled with more on his morale's and humanity then in is powers. Powers don't make the hero, that's why Superman was everyone's morale compass he was the anchor he was the leader of the Justice League. And in terms of of godliness there were other beings in the Universe who were more powerful than him such as Darkseid or Brainiac. And Im assuming you didn't watch this movie to understand why he seemed more powerful.
opiumthoughts 3 months ago
@Kotlettbengt anythings possible
cancerjuly1989 2 months ago
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apollonas101 4 months ago
i wish i could fly and breath in space if only i could get my hands on that serum.
Iamyourpapa1 4 months ago
all star super fag
StarScream2171 4 months ago
if there is a good source is there really going to be another superman movie named
superman man of steel please reply
riddler0799 5 months ago
@riddler0799 imdb
Toasty667 4 months ago
superman just went supersaiyan!?!
magmoon 5 months ago
No,he turns into pure energy because of the overcharge from the Sun.
Crisshomes1 4 months ago
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Am I the only one who cries at the scene?
r3b3j3 5 months ago
Am I the only one who cries at the scene?
r3b3j3 5 months ago
he is up there, fixing the sun...
TothKPeter 5 months ago
Sun...I am dissapoint
DEMax87rus 6 months ago
truly the greatest hero to ever had lived
jsmooth1392 6 months ago
Why was the lettering backwards?
MrBigpapi01 7 months ago
does he die right there
bigweb21 7 months ago
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Crisshomes1 6 months ago
@Crisshomes1 There is a Superman-Prime and he's just a whiney jackass
garroboman2 6 months ago
Don't be a troll.
Crisshomes1 6 months ago
@Crisshomes1 Not being a troll Supeboy-prime or Superman-prime is a superman from the multiverse who just won't quit bitching on how Earth-Prime was far superior than the main DC universe
garroboman2 6 months ago
Perhaps its 1 million that I meant.
Besides this superman isn't the bad superman from the multiverse.
Crisshomes1 6 months ago
Sorry that was a different story and isn't relative to this one.
My bad.
Crisshomes1 6 months ago
Batman wouldn't have died.
drummerelite 7 months ago
Listen everybody your constant bickering is stupid flash is faster because its his tradmark its his thing the one thing that he can do better than anyone and im saying this because i love superman flash batman wonderman green lantern and the rest of the crew but superman is my favorite and im saying flash is faster
horns141 7 months ago 2
A Superman movie isn't supposed to have a sad ending!
SirMac27 7 months ago
Fanboys... when will they ever learn that others opinions dosent count only yours count. Becuse they are yours and no One else.
Junfo 8 months ago
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You are who you *choose* to be...
00:43 ...SUUUUPERMAAAN.
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CrazyGrapefruit 8 months ago
I love both superman and flash, ok fine superman isnt faster than the flash but he's has flight, supersenses, invulnerability, and superstrength, reguardless of how fast flash is he's still human and all humans have limits
DString20 8 months ago
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i feel your deluded in big way, firstly because you know Superman is Superman, and that his capabilitys are unlimited in every respect when pushed, and secondly in knowing this you make an exception with one,...now everyone and the whole world cant be wrong...Superman is leaps and bounds ahead of ''ANY'' hero ...ohh wait but he's slow when it comes to Flash...WRONG...Superman can and has beat Flash when he's needed to.....stop being so silly
apollonas101 8 months ago
I've begun to appreciate Superman more recently, but what irritates me is that he doesn't seem to have a limit but will do whatever feat required for the situation he's in. Can someone tell me what he CANNOT do strength- and durability-wise? Serious question because I'm tired of reading about him pushing planets and holding together black holes, that's just corny =/
Kotlettbengt 8 months ago
Lois is really hot-looking in this one!
Kotlettbengt 8 months ago
I agree!
Wish they did an superman animated series with this cast and cartoon style/effects!
lois is so beautiful and cute when she has tears dripping!
UltimateTARDIS 7 months ago 2
Superman achieves speed force at the end by becoming pure energy!!!
apollonas101 9 months ago
@apollonas101 He's still a slug compared to the Flash though.
Kotlettbengt 8 months ago
@Kotlettbengt i dont think so..in doing what he dose Superman is ultimately SUPER'' ...Flash however much i love him and i do..still has so many floors compared to that of Superman......including speed
apollonas101 8 months ago
@apollonas101 How do you mean, floors? The Flash is the fastest being in the universe, this has been established years ago.
Kotlettbengt 8 months ago
@Kotlettbengt floors as in human..and many more ways to hurt and in fact kill him as posed to Superman..''fact'' also its ''never'' been established that Flash is the fastest being in the universe..he maybe amoung men, and not once in all the illustraitions has Flash ver overcome Superman either as a being or through speed.......
apollonas101 8 months ago
Superman #199 by Jim Shooter and Curt Swan (1967) The Flash #175 by E. Nelson Bridwell and Ross Andru (1967) World’s Finest #198-199 by Denny O’Neil and Dick Dillin (1970) DC Comics Presents #1-2 by Martin Pasko and José Luis García-Lopez (1978) Adventures of Superman #463 by Dan Jurgens (1990) DC First: Flash/Superman by Geoff Johns and Rick Burchett (2002)
in all these Flash has never overcome Kal-el...i have them all
apollonas101 8 months ago
@apollonas101 The Flash once easily outran Kal-El in a speed contest, Superman said that he had beaten the Flash in contest before, and the Flash simply replied "Those were for charity, Clark" and then speeded away and left Superman looking slow. Official data says that the Flash is the fastest being in the universe. Also, there would be absolutely no point having a Flash if Superman were faster. The Flash >>> Superman, whether you like it or not. Even Superboy Prime was slower than the Flash.
Kotlettbengt 8 months ago 2
@Kotlettbengt what im trying to say to you..''is that i have every single comic edition in which they race, and what you say has never happened in any of them'' so please if you could in factt tell me which issue ive missed ill be greatfull as ive been collecting them for 25 years''..also Superman saved Flash in Smallville when racing in high voltage container....Superman of now and silver age are ''UNBEATABLE IN EVERY RESPECT'' even DC dont know his capabilities when pushed.
apollonas101 8 months ago
@apollonas101 The fight I mentioned happened in Flash: Rebirth #2. You might as well stop arguing about this because it is not a question of opinion. The Flash IS faster than any version of Superman, and his speed feats are far superior to Superman's greatest. Superman is NOT unbeatable in every aspect. Go to any forum or information page and they will confirm it. Furthermore, the Flash also beat Superman in World's Finest #198-199, DC Comics Presents #1-2 and The Adventures of Superman #463.
Kotlettbengt 8 months ago 4
@Kotlettbengt its not a question of opinion...Supeman is and was voted the ggreatest hero and protector earth has because of his struture as hero,..Flash couldn't make that position because as i said like many other heros he is too floored and could get wiped out a great deal easier'' in regards to this edition where Flash beats Superman ...ill look this up!! and DC have said numerous times, that when pushed Kal-el is capable of absolutely ''ANYTHING'' and that would include beating Flash
apollonas101 8 months ago
@apollonas101 Don't throw words back at me when you don't know the truth. Superman may be able to occasionally beat the Flash in races if the Flash isn't determined enough, but if the Flash is focused, he'll outrun anything and anyone. The Flash is basically able to move as fast as he wants, so even if Superman can exceed 1000 times the speed of light it wouldn't matter. Some fanboys even consider All-Star Superman to be as powerful as God himself. I hope you're not one of these deluded fools.
Kotlettbengt 8 months ago 2
@Kotlettbengt well first of all Superman is capable of absolutely ''anything'' within the comic world..making him earths greatest protector...''FACT'' also voted al time best Super-hero..because of who he is and the less floors he has compaed to that of Flash....Flash maybe the fastest man...but if man kind depended on it or a life depended on it, i assure you Superman would obliterate Flash in anyway shape or form..''FACT'' and also no i would never compare anything or anyone to God, you prat
apollonas101 8 months ago
@apollonas101 I never said Superman isn't the greatest hero, he most certainly is, and yes, in a mission to save the universe, Superman is the one you'd want to recruit. I do not however agree that Superman would obliterate Flash in a fight - sure, theoretically he has weapons that would kill the Flash, but the Flash could take a nap before deciding to dodge Superman's attacks, he's just that fast. Anyway, I wasn't discussing whom of them would win in a fight, just who would win in a race.
Kotlettbengt 8 months ago 3
@Kotlettbengt firstly Clark already had to become faster than Flash to save his life in Smallville episode 11 s 6, and secondly he's already beat Flash by flight, and if peoples lives depended on it,..what ever the case Superman would indeed obliterate Flash in speed or any other hero for anything else for that matter,..and Superman would crush Flash like grape with his bare hands...without weapons!!...and im saying Flash maybe the fastest man..not being!! Superman could beat him if need be
apollonas101 8 months ago
@apollonas101 Well, you're wrong. And Smallville is something completely different. Unless Flash is smug enough not to utilize his full potential in a race against Supes and Supes is as determined as ever, then sure, Supes could beat Flash, but with equal focus, the Flash will always outrun Supes, and any other hero or villain. Ask any comic book expert or go to a number of forums and see which one most people say will win, they will confirm this. Did you read Flash: Rebirth like I told you?
Kotlettbengt 8 months ago 2
@Kotlettbengt well im not wrong'' and Smallville is rightly based within any DC universe, there for what they use has to co'inside with DC law and rights reserved,...and i own my own super-hero forum and i collect as i told you before so im well aware of abilities and character structure of ''all'' heroes,....Flash is the fastest man but not being,...also if Supes had to beat him he could...end of!!!!
apollonas101 8 months ago
@apollonas101 It's not "end of" just because you say so. I really don't have much more to give you as proof, as I've already given you examples of instances where the Flash has won over Supes, one of which the Flash easily did so and called their earlier races "charity". Face it, Superman isn't omnipotent, if someone shot Lois Lane point blank in the face and Supes was a hundred galaxies away when the bullet left the gun, he wouldn't reach Lois in time to save her. Fash on the other hand might.
Kotlettbengt 8 months ago 4
@Kotlettbengt Well im afraid it is end of'' or am i the only one that calls him ''SUPER..MAN'' he's called Superman because his capabilities entitle him to be any to do everything and anything, including obliterating Flash with speed, Flash has limits to what he can do all round..Superman dosen't big difference, in which case someone with les floors would have better chance than someone with more, so it stands to reason, Flash maybe fastest man..not being, and if Supes wanted he beat Flash easy
apollonas101 8 months ago
@apollonas101 It's the other way around, The Flash has no limits whatsoever to his speed, while Supes does. Superman is the all around better hero though so chill out. He's not called Super because he can do anything, he's called Super because he has a wider range of abilities than any other hero and is the greatest hero of all, it doesn't mean he can top anyone. You think Superman can cross the universe in a second? Have you checked out those forums yet? And don't you mean flaws, not "floors"?
Kotlettbengt 8 months ago 5
@Kotlettbengt No'' you seem to misunderstand..Superman has no limits what so ever..to ''anything'' hence the name Superman'' he's even able when pushed to overcome kryptonite, ;Superman is as i say again the ''only'' DC character who is capable and can do ''ANYTHING'' this title alone makes him unique to any other so then why would speed be the only exception....its isn't...i love Flash and he is the fastest man...not being, and if needs be...Superman could speed burn him easily
apollonas101 8 months ago
@apollonas101 Sigh... You're so full of delusion... or denial, whatever it may be. "Super" doesn't mean "omnipotent", it simply means excellent or extreme. What do you think Superman would do if the Earth was obliterated and everyone on it was killed? Turn back time? You do know that for real Superman can't do that like he did in that shitty movie? Superman can't resurrect people or fix an obliterated planet, and he cannot beat the Flash in a contest. Go. To. The. Fucking. Forums.
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apollonas101 8 months ago
@apollonas101 Ok, first of all I don't accept anyone calling me a CUNT, ok scum??? Especially not over comic book matters. And secondly, Superman is NOT the best in all areas - sure, he may have the most powerful heat vision and freezing breath, but he's neither the strongest nor the fastest. I asked you a simple question, have you checked what others have to say about this, or do you blindly trust your own smug opinion that Superman is God? And more importantly, did you read Flash: Rebirth?
Kotlettbengt 8 months ago 4
@Kotlettbengt yeah i checked it out and it proves nothing more that one variation of an opinionated subject, which proved my point completely, Superman can be everything and anything he chooses because thats how the comic writers have made him since 35''.... ''he's Superman'' and NOONE'' comes close, sure i have other favorites but by public opinion and sales wise Superman is the best,..im sorry weather thats hard for you to accept but it's, Superman is much faster DUMMY!!!
apollonas101 8 months ago
@apollonas101 So you won't even believe the comics when they present fact right before your eyes? Well, then there isn't much more I can do. Just do yourself a favor. Ask a few more people who they think is the fastest, and then see for yourself what most of them say (and don't go to a Superman fanpage, go to a neutral forum). And Google the Flash's speed feats. The fact that the Flash is faster than Superman doesn't change the fact that Superman is the better hero, so calm down for Cerist sake.
Kotlettbengt 8 months ago 3
@Kotlettbengt nothing has ever substantiated in comics of movie that Superman is any less than what he is, so then if his capabilities are unlimited..why then would he be limited to a human who was just fast?? ..well he's not and he wasn't..ive collected comics for 25 years, and at face value im telling you whats what within the comic would..''NO HERO CAN STAND UP TO SUPERMAN'' ohh and Superman silver age is unbeatable'' you may want to look that up.,im sorry but Superman could beat him
apollonas101 8 months ago
@apollonas101 I think I'm done with you. I've shown you examples of the Flash outspeeding Supes, but you won't listen. You haven't went to the forums as I've recommended either, thus we're stuck in a deadlock. Well, I guess that you're entitled to your opinion as the only "real" DC is the individual ones we create in our minds after interpreting the comics the way we do, but let me ask you this: What's the point of having a Flash, or any other hero, if Superman can beat them in all areas?
Kotlettbengt 8 months ago 3
@Kotlettbengt ..er well you've not shown me anything that cant be questioned? Superman however has far more cases of showing Supremacy than Flash, i have my own forum my friend and im a member of several others, so i see and understand your point of view, however Superman is Superman'' and there is NO'' competition, Superman can beat them all in all areas, but thats not the point, these heros are all still needed, and i love them all, and ive enjoyed speaking with you, i apologise if i was rood
apollonas101 8 months ago
@apollonas101 Superman is more commonly used in comics, so naturally he has more showings. In DC, velocity is referred to in terms of barriers - sound barrier, light barrier, time barrier, dimensional barrier, and finally the Speed Force barrier. Superman I think can reach the time barrier, or at most the dimensional barrier. Wally West has been confirmed as the fastest being who has ever lived, human or alien. Supes is probably among the top ten. I appreciate your apologize, and I accept it =)
Kotlettbengt 8 months ago 2
@apollonas101 Also, just to establish how fast the Flash is. He once outran Death itself by speeding to the end of time, past entropy and into the next universe. A light-speed attack seemed to be completely still to Wally West, and he was able to carry over half a million people 35 miles away from a nuclear blast (including the ones at ground zero) in a 0.0001 microsecond. He has moved in an attosecond (one attosecond is to one second what one second is to the age of the unvierse). Cool, eh? :P
Kotlettbengt 8 months ago 2
@Kotlettbengt ohh yeah i know....and that is soo Cool, i always felt Flash could've done with few more abilities though,....but i love him and think he's fantastic''
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MrHoppers002 8 months ago
@MrHoppers002 How so? Well, he wouldn't have to effort himself to death to outrun Superman anyway, I think outrunning Death into the next universe is fast enough.
Kotlettbengt 8 months ago
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MrHoppers002 8 months ago
@MrHoppers002 And why should Pre-crisis Superman have that kind of speed? Flash always has been and always will be faster than Superman, and faster than any other DC character or being for that matter. This is as common knowledge as the fact that no one tops The One Above All in Marvel. I'm really not into starting another debate about this because I recently made peace with another guy I debated, so please let's not start this again.
Kotlettbengt 8 months ago 2
cause no one should be out of superman's league. that's what the character is about. able ot hang with any character even if that character is "superior" to superman.
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MrHoppers002 8 months ago
@Kotlettbengt When the Flash is a sleep..he is just as slow as everyone else. A human like batman can kill the flash.....
RPintorO 8 months ago
@RPintorO The same goes for Superman.
Kotlettbengt 8 months ago
@Kotlettbengt
Not really.
Dramactica 8 months ago
@Dramactica Well, yes, it's piece of cake to throw a piece of kryptonite into the room where Supes is sleeping. And correct me if I'm wrong, but last time I checked the Flash's supersenses work even on a subconscious level, so shooting him in his sleep won't work.
Kotlettbengt 8 months ago 5
@Kotlettbengt In the discussion of Superman, kryptonite is a very rare radioactive rock. One of the reasons why Luther lost his hair when experiment on him and cause him cancer. So, it is impossible for you to have this rare piece.
Superman have supersense on a subconscious level. Listen, if you think that Flash beat Superman, you are wrong. The Flash miss one punch of Superman because his super speed. If you don't believe in me, why just go to Google. There is a image of it.
Dramactica 8 months ago
@Dramactica The Flash is faster than Superman, and that's not up to debate like some think. The few occasions when Superman has been able to match the Flash is bullshit - Captain America was able to KO the Hulk, does that mean he can do it? No, it's bullshit writing by biased or misinformed writers. Even Superboy Prime feared the Flash. Read Flash: Rebirth, where Superman and the Flash is racing and the Flash says that their previous races were for charity and then leaves SUperman in the dust.
Kotlettbengt 8 months ago 10
@Kotlettbengt theres a canon book well it was before the reboot of DC, flash couldnt keep up with batman. dc is inconsistent as hell and so is batman lol, hulk got knocked out by a fire truck, once, hes not unbetable, captain america got in that ass.
melvinmaverick 7 months ago
@Kotlettbengt It is up to debate. You simply don't know the character. The Flash is indeed the fastest Superhero in existence but not by as much as you believe he is. Superman has reflexes on PAR with The Flash, being able to catch his hand when Wally was trying to punch him at Superspeed. Superman has flew straight to the Vega Galaxy from the Earth in 10 minutes which equals to close to 140 million times the speed of light.
ShadowHunter31 3 months ago
@ShadowHunter31 140 million lol, 500 million times the speed of light is basic flash, Old comic books, Flash was 75 trillion times the speed of light. Some can say on earth that's omnipotence capabilities. Generating that speed has 10,000 times the power of a exploding white star an with those combined he could destroy thousands of galaxy's in minutes. It'll only depend on the writer of the super hero because your supes now can barley lift giant boats, In comics he could sneez away galaxys.
bigwaverider1000 3 months ago
@bigwaverider1000 A boat? The guy fucking lifted a book holding the Multiverse. Wake up. He held a black hole in his hand, moved a being 400 times bigger then Jupiter, slow down Eternity, etc. Stop with that shit and stop your fanboyism about Flash. Ohh Flash can do IMP... Well, Superman can do and has done it on the Dark Moon. And 500 millions? Prove it.
ShadowHunter31 3 months ago
@ShadowHunter31 Read again asshole, I stated supes had "great power" of SNEEZING AWAY GALAXY'S an I didnt list them all "YET" dumb ass. Apparently you are a fucking noob, If you dont know the flash has ALREADY hit 75 trillion times the speed of light in old comics. Common give me a fucking break thousands of above the 80s 90s 2000s show supes struggling, When big objects are smashed on him. Its not my job to educate the dumb an ignorant. Go look! You have YouTube then you have Google go LOOK!
bigwaverider1000 3 months ago
@bigwaverider1000 Wow, you get all mad over comics? Grow up some balls child. It doesn't exist in case you didn't know. Maybe you should try to fly like Superman and jump over a building? I don't fucking care about Pre-Crisis feats. Everything was retconned and in case you didn't know, everything about The Flash was retconned too. Read some comics then come back here when you get some knowledge. Go read the recent arc. You are entertaining me and making me laugh alot.
ShadowHunter31 3 months ago
@ShadowHunter31 "Grow up some balls"? XD what the fuck is that kinda of grammer? Not only Im laughing but the whole world is gonna laugh at that idiotic put together of a lame come back XD. What dosent exist?That before the speed force was even thought of ,The flash had raw speed power that allowed him to carry 500,000 Koreans 2 at a time 35 miles away from a atom bomb explosion, In less than a micro second! Do the math that's 75 trillion times the speed of light ,Yeah I learned your an Idiot!!!
bigwaverider1000 3 months ago
@bigwaverider1000 lolll that's TRAVEL speed you idiot. I got that comic. You, you fucking got it at a respect thread anyway.
ShadowHunter31 2 months ago
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pinhead61187 2 months ago
@ShadowHunter31 lol supes has the shit lode of ways to be killed
1:Shove kryptonite up his ass.
2:Bring red sun radiation making supes human, than bat his head off.
3:Have someone of equal strength beat him to death like doomsday did.
4:Take him away from the yellow sun.
5:Use the shit lode of magic on him like black adam did.
6:Use a power disrupter like in justice lord.
7:Throw mind consumer plant at supes like mongul did.
The list can go on an on, an on of how to kill supes with ease.
bigwaverider1000 3 months ago
@bigwaverider1000 See? You don't read any comics so why don't you don't post anymore idiot?
1. He went inside a RED SUN that was surrounded by KRYPTONITE and crash landed on the planet MOGO. There, he fought Superboy Prime who was using KRYPTONITE to his advantage. SUPERMAN WON.
2. Read the first.
3. Doomsday was stronger you idiot. Read comics like I said.
4. Superman can absorb ENERGY from rocks, heat, electricity, human body, etc. FAIL
ShadowHunter31 2 months ago
@ShadowHunter31 lol your exaggeration your self like every superman whore doesXDXD who said red radiation can kill superman? I said it will take away his powers so you can kill him just by bashing his head in like superboy prime did to the old superman XDXD your so full of shit show me a link where supes destroys even a small planet XDXD you cant why because your making shit up ive read comics where he knocked him self out by flying into a small moon an martian man hunter had to find his body.
bigwaverider1000 2 months ago
@bigwaverider1000 I'm not done pussy.
5. Superman survived easily being HIT by the wizard SHAZAM (Not Captain Marvel. The REAL one). Shazam was using electric bolts on him. That didn't stop him.
6. Power Disruptor? lollll that would fucking work on everyone you idiot.
7. If you would read COMICS, not NON-CANON TV SERIE, you would know that even MARTIAN MANHUNTER can't get in Superman's mind without his consent because his will is too strong.
You suck kid.
ShadowHunter31 2 months ago
@bigwaverider1000 You are just jealous of Superman. You must be one of those kids who gets mad because the guy can fly and you can't.
ShadowHunter31 2 months ago
@ShadowHunter31 The Flash basic powers:
Infinite mass Punch- hits the same force of a exploding white star
Flight- velocity speeds allow them to run even to other plants
Speed scouts- make multiple versions of himself
Speed lend/steal- give speed or take it away
Metabolize wounds-heal his wounds in a blink of the eye
Speed control-running as fast as his mind can generate= any speed imaginable an in-manginable.
His speed is limit less if theres an infinite number the flash can run infinite +1
bigwaverider1000 3 months ago
@bigwaverider1000 Infinite Mass Punch isn't a fucking power you idiot. Go back to school. Superman has done it many times in the past. I don't freaking care lol!
ShadowHunter31 2 months ago
@ShadowHunter31 You dont know shit about the flash, only the person hes been down graded to from crappy writers. The flash is so fast he can out run death him self with the speed force he can travel billions of years into the past or future. I havent even named 1/10th the different powers flash has, He ran to the end of time an is so fast he can out run himself. So if you believe supes got anything on the flash than you havent read or seen anything of worth reading besides bullshit cartoons.
bigwaverider1000 3 months ago
@bigwaverider1000 1.Flash can only time travel with the cosmic treadmill.
2.The Flash has limits as well.
3.supermans fast enough to react to flash and smash his face with his pinky. Out of character supes can fly out to space and zap the planet flash was on.
melvinmaverick 3 months ago
@melvinmaverick The flash can generate so much friction, when he runs he can run on it just like hundreds of old comics, show him racing zoom around the galaxy, modern flash has been made slower but even modern flash hasent toped out yet. If so show me where he was struggling to meet his pursuing speed. lol supes couldn't even get threw lex alien armor that had metal 10,000 times stronger than earths steel an flash use speed to generate power to break it when supes couldent, watch Speed force.
bigwaverider1000 3 months ago
@bigwaverider1000 supes can regenerate as well.
YOu call me bias because i shut you down, supes currently won, you are still stuck in the 70s.
melvinmaverick 3 months ago
@melvinmaverick ill just copy an paste from dc comics data base it self mr dumb fuck Steal Speed: He is able to "steal" speed and/or momentum from anyone or anything, including beings such as Superman or Inertia effectively turning them into living statues. Also can steal speed from bullets and other fast moving objects thrown at him or at others. This ability is so great, that he once took the speed from the entire planet, and its population, including the very fast beings such as Superman,
bigwaverider1000 3 months ago
@melvinmaverick being bias? give me a break i dont even like flash i just know at full potential he can make supes look like a chump so why dont you just type in wally west dc data base in google an read his bio of TODAY not in the 70s dumb ass you can read 4 to 5 pages on his feats lol just telling someone go study when you havent a clue what your talking about deserves a slap in the face you punk bitch
bigwaverider1000 3 months ago
@bigwaverider1000 you missed the part when those are one time things which he dosent do constantly you twit. he keeps getting hurt by low tier scrubs and flash currently cant do any of that now shut the fuck up you sound stupider each time.
melvinmaverick 2 months ago
@bigwaverider1000 oh yes call me a punk bitch because most disagree with your dumbass. Fuckin geek stick to computer thugging.
melvinmaverick 2 months ago
@melvinmaverick How knowing about dc am i suppose to be a geek if you know superman wouldent that make you a geek too dumbfuck come up with something oringinal XD no since talking to you because if you neglect what the people who MADE (DC) who says what they can do then its like talking to a fucking wall lol you only want to use a weak version of flash vs pre crisis superman which shows your a bias bitch against all out flash you got nothing so you wine when his feats are in the fucking text
bigwaverider1000 2 months ago
@bigwaverider1000 not once did i mention pre crisis superman vs flash you dumb fuckhead. you wanna go by non canon shit you dumb bitch? superman set the record for infinite speed, justice lords is non canon you dumb ass fag.its common sense you dumb bitch, if superman amped his speed up and punched, it would make way more damage than flashes, now eat a dick, come back with some real flash facts, u post stupid all day long.
melvinmaverick 2 months ago
@bigwaverider1000 you dont know shit about flash in the comics, fucking dumb ass go research and buy the comics, and read right, instead of checking databases. Flash currently got his ass whooped by superman so eat ass bitch. You just been owned.
melvinmaverick 2 months ago
@melvinmaverick XDXD Superman K.Os the flash, Type in the link then... You cant why? Because its all in your mind. Supermans entire race was stupid, They were all told that the planet was going to go an they still stayed. Even the ones who were ""SAYING"" the planet was gonna blow, "Like" uhhhhhhhhh Supermans (Idiot parents) stayed. That right off the back shows how ridiculously stupid kryptonians are.
bigwaverider1000 2 months ago
@melvinmaverick YOU'VE JUST BEEN OWNED BITCH!!!! XDXDXDXD
bigwaverider1000 2 months ago
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pinhead61187 2 months ago
@melvinmaverick lol you just dont like the fact that supes is outclassed in max out mode flash generated speed to pump up his strength million folds stronger to shatter luthers armor which supes couldent, supes couldent beat his counter part in justice lords which flash did supes cant barly survive smashing threw a moon planet when the flash has a infinite mass punch to destroy the biggest white sun supermans top speed is 25x the speed of light an flashes is 75 trillion x light its all in TEXT.
bigwaverider1000 2 months ago
@bigwaverider1000 I know your posts are old but I have to correct a few things. First before I start I have to say I love the flash way more than duperman. Whether "Crisis on Infinite Earths" is canon or not is not the issue. The issue is your are confusing what flash is doing. He did not punch off luthers armor. He took it off at super high speed. He also beat his counter part the same way he beats all his counter parts. By exploiting their cockiness. A trait that he shares.
BigLumpyTool 2 months ago
@melvinmaverick again read lower comments supes has been destroyed from countless villans weaker an slower than supes I have no time to repeat myself read comments below an those arnt even 1/100th of ways supes already lost.
bigwaverider1000 3 months ago
@bigwaverider1000 It's called bad writting pussy. It's funny that you aren't mentioning the low feats of Flash like him being OWNED by Gorillas! That's freaking powerful isn't?!
ShadowHunter31 2 months ago
@ShadowHunter31 LOL low feats of flashXDXD superman revolves around losing to a human lexx luther XDXDXD thats weaker than a super intelligent gorilla lol supes has had his ass handed to him more than any other superhero ever mongul,lobo,darkseid,atom man,element lad, lexx luther,blackadam,doomsday an I can go on forever on people who bitch slapped around, superman set the record for infinite speed lol again making shit up when there are over a hundred others who left him in the dust.
bigwaverider1000 2 months ago
@bigwaverider1000 i can't believe how BAD-ASS you guys are, talking smack anonymously over the internet about comic books... i'm an awe.
pinhead61187 2 months ago
@pinhead61187 So am I, You an I both know, Saying your gonna do somthing over the internet is astronomically bullshit in the first place. If so why doesent any one use there real names address an all. Why because there are people that want to debate an there are people who want to talk shit. In reality it wont matter because its 99.9999 percent all bullshit but there are that .0000001 percent who actually take the time out when insulted to find them an send a home made bomb to there address ^_^
bigwaverider1000 2 months ago
@bigwaverider1000 lol. yup. if i were being honest, that's the reason when i'm bored i find people engaged in heated arguments and *tweak* them just enough that they fly off the handle. fricking hilarious. one guy was convinced he was "skorpion" (from mortal kombat). the fun just went on...
pinhead61187 2 months ago
@pinhead61187 I know on base with majority of all existence of superman an the flash that superman would averagely beat the flash. But not at there highest feats Supes best feat was sneezing away a solar system but even that has no chance at a 75 trillion times the speed of light moving man thats like being omnipotence for a brief amount of time just think if your fast that you can run up to 500,000 people an study each of there facial expressions in one second thats beyond ever getting hit.
bigwaverider1000 2 months ago
@bigwaverider1000 thats were youre wrong his best feats are way above sneezing solar syste,s you stupid prick. 75trillion times the speed of light isnt shit.pre crisis superman isnt the strongest superman you fucking dope.
melvinmaverick 2 months ago
@pinhead61187 Its pretty funny, How people even make them self up to seem like there fighters, Giant weight lifters an can regulate shit. When in reality, You can slap the living shit out them, Being they are just 130 pound pure pencil neck queers. An whos to say in outcomes anyway, They know the chances youll never find them so they act as if it really is going down. lol cracks me up all the time XDXD in how much people are suddenly black belts an mma fighters lol.
bigwaverider1000 2 months ago
@bigwaverider1000 people are fun to screw with. i'm not just doing it online, though. work, home, church, it doesn't matter. work is especially fun. my coworkers aren't exactly lex luthor-level geniuses, so my boss and i screw with them regularly.
pinhead61187 2 months ago
@pinhead61187 This dumb fuck I was addressing, wants to use the flashes weak forms instead of what the makers allowed him to be at a point of time. Being like a small meteorite the size of a marble as soft as a marshmallow moving at light speed can have the same impact of a car at 80 mph smashing into a wall. Now for increase of its speed an size it will intriplicate its force an were talking about at 75 trillion times the speed of light magnifying a standard punch, It would destroy a white sun.
bigwaverider1000 2 months ago
@bigwaverider1000 even if, somehow, due to comic book logic, it didn't detonate the solar system, flash would be killed. as it is, it would destroy the world from the displacement of matter during the punch.
pinhead61187 2 months ago
@pinhead61187 Thats where speed of light comes in, If a nucluer bomb went off right in front of his face the speed of light can still get him away before it takes any play on his body an destroys the continent not him. Same prince-able with a planet if he decided to generate that much speed.DC always has the flash at certain speeds around certain places like earth because of the ripple effect if hed jet pass a town at march ten creating a sonic boom he could detonate a bomb in that same matter.
bigwaverider1000 2 months ago
@bigwaverider1000 yup, but i don't think it would matter where he tried an infinite mass punch or a similar technique. things would be obliterated.
pinhead61187 2 months ago
@pinhead61187 Yeah, Your right. An that must tie in with the story of course of a hero being understanble an likable to the average human mind. You cant really make a good storie last of someone that can do everything an have everytype of capabilitie already. So thats why they took the flashes powers down a notch because there are so many consequences that imply when he goes at high speeds in logic, like the big bang theories where in some views hed could create a whole new world at those speeds
bigwaverider1000 2 months ago
@pinhead61187 Dc comics have of course fictional beings that isint possible.what made them more popular than other fictional company brands, Back in the day is because they go by alot of science logic, With alabis of basic knowledge in what ever department they tend to conjur the cause an effect from. kinda like how muscle pills is proven to work an poison is proven to kill a human by chemical reaction to the stomach same with the sun being supes power pills kryptonite being his rat poison lol
bigwaverider1000 2 months ago
@bigwaverider1000 stfu you aint own shit, you feeling yourself too much.stop reading database shit and actualy read the flash you dumb fag. you just got owned.
melvinmaverick 2 months ago