Bug Out Bag: on a budget part 1 (revised)

[rlmarin1968]

The only reason some say to NOT use some food containers for water (like milk containers) is because of the potential for residual food/liquid which can allow for bacteria growth...so I'm with you...if it is cleaned out well...really well...why not use it as a "canteen". Good video.

[Texasoutback]

Those pouches are cheap on cheaper than dirt , but Im curious is this your whole bug out bag.

[Unzaman]

lol what a Jerk should be to boil with a cap...

Hey Jake! Where i can see instruction to make the same braclet like yours in this vid?

[jwilson004athotmail]

@Unzaman I haven't made a video on the continuos loop bracelet yet, is that something you guys are interested in seeing?

[Deriust]

Is that an esee or rat 5 I see? I missed if you told. If so, great choice.

[2KARGARAGE]

5/5

[aussiesurvivalist]

Great vid, thanks

[hinckleypoland]

Love the vids. Keep em coming!

[seanmulhall]

Jakes video was intended to encourage people to get out in to the beautiful country side and to show them that you dont need loads of money to do so. Lets be honest Im sure that breathing in clean fresh air in the country from a disposable drinking bottle will do you less long term harm that staying in a CO2 choked polluted city environment.

[seanmulhall]

I have read the discussion on the disposable bottles and regardless of whats in the video (which I back up 100%) many people in everyday life refill water drinking bottles. I have not heard of anyone dying or even becoming ill from reusing a disposable drinking bottle. Please correct me if I am wrong. I thinking some people panic themselves about problems that aren't really there or aren't really important.

[practicalsurvivor]

FDA - "The concern is that estrogenic chemicals such as phthalates may leach into the contents from bottles made from PET, although PET is not a phthalate derivative." Conclusions: More research is needed in order to clarify the mechanisms whereby beverages and condiments in PET containers may be contaminated by endocrine-disrupting chemicals.

2008 test "It is conceivable that the water in the PET bottles was contaminated with phthalates before bottling." - Environmental Health Perspectives

[mrmonkeyman50]

@practicalsurvivor You are still missing the point. There are also people who claim that BPA is not the issue some claim it is. You are actually the one arguing. Bottom line: there is no reason to risk re-use of a single-use bottle for reasons of cost. By skipping one or two drinks and drinking tap water, you can by a safe bottle meant for re-use. Skip a couple of more drinks, you can get a steel bottle. Sorry if this hurts your current set-up, but that's the way it is.

[dancingnikk]

@mrmonkeyman50 not arguing, you made me curious so I researched it. I found studies pointing both ways however the FDA and Chemisty Council seem to point out that most studies are inconclusive. I see your point about the inexpensive steel bottles. I have one from guyot because it allows me to boil my water. I also realize that BPA test results started @ 2007? and our houses have PVC pipes etc. They also state that aluminum bottles utilize liners made with epoxy resins that may contain BPA.

[mrmonkeyman50]

@dancingnikk Two IDs? :o) The point of good YT is to share real info. Inconclusive studies mean avoid a possible problem when it is easy to do so. Yes, I think you got my point. THANKS!!! :o)

[practicalsurvivor]

2010, American Chemistry Council "PET beverage bottles sold in the United States are designed for single use for economic and cultural reasons, not because of any safety concerns with PET. In fact, refillable bottles made with the same PET resin as single-use bottles are safely reused in a number of other countries.

plasticsinfodotorg

[mrmonkeyman50]

Shows how non-scientific "wisdom" is totally wrong. The plastic bottles are made as cheap as possible to deliver the product to you, but are not for reuse. If you can't afford a cheap steel bottle from a drug store (less than $5), you've got bigger problems than survival.

[jwilson004athotmail]

@mrmonkeyman50 maybe you should do your research, I didn't say all plastic bottles, but hey not everybody pays attention, thanks for watching.

[mrmonkeyman50]

@jwilson004athotmail 6:45 "These are all examples of food grade plastic.... chances are you throw them in the trash.... My good buddy write... 'If it's safe enough for your food, why isn't it safe enough to keep your water in?' And I agree with him." Your words. No qualifications. And bad thinking. Sorry, but we all take peoples' health seriously. So, we all need to act that way and not pass around bad info. THANKS!!! :o)

[practicalsurvivor]

@mrmonkeyman50 I will post again when I have more time but I will start with this:

Solar water disinfection, also known as SODIS is a method of disinfecting water using only sunlight and plastic PET bottles. SODIS is a free and effective method for decentralized water treatment, usually applied at the household level and is recommended by the World Health Organization as a viable method for household water treatment and safe storage. SODIS is already applied in numerous developing countries.

[mrmonkeyman50]

@practicalsurvivor Your info is old. Last year SODIS is under scrutiny. Bottom line: if I'm dying of thirst and find a used plastic bottle by the side of the road, would I use it? Yes, even if it was dirty! But the fact is that you can pick up cheapie plastic bottles in any drugstore for under $5 that are meant for reuse. There's no financial excuse for not having a safe drinking bottle. (After all, lay off a few bottles of bottled water and you have the money for a real bottle!)

[jwilson004athotmail]

@mrmonkeyman50 I don't thik you are actually understanding the point of this series of videos. The basis is to start off on the cheap and relace items as you go along. Yeah a $5 bottle is inexpensive but there are some people who really can't afford that extra $ and the fact that you are publicly downing them well that is just wrong. I have never said this before but if you can't respect other people irreguardless of their financial status please don't comment on my videos.

[mrmonkeyman50]

@jwilson004athotmail No, I am not "downing them", I'm trying to help them and their health. If you can't afford a $5 bottle, then how, may I ask, can you afford to buy bottled water (or juice, or whatever) that comes in that use-once bottle? Please don't turn this into a "dissing on the poor" discussion. I haven't. It's about personal responsibility and it seems to me that forgoing a few bottled drinks to buy a real water bottle is a sensible thing to do. THANKS!!! :o)

[jwilson004athotmail]

@mrmonkeyman50 I get your point, but what you are not seeing is the big picture here, I'm not saying buy a soda or juice just for the bottle, if you look there is also a mayonaise jar represented. My point is you can save money by re-using certain containers. All the information I present in my videos is based off of personal experience as well as the experience of my mentors and the many survival instructors I personally know world wide.

[practicalsurvivor]

@jwilson004athotmail there are countless links talking about this same subject. I guess if you are living by growing you own vegetables, not eating out of cans or plastic this would be worthy of discussion but lets get real. There will always be trolls and armchair survivalists. I will focus on the positive people and be back out in the bush this weekend. If I die from plastic leaching, please come back to this thread and say I was wrong but died happy in the bush. THANkS ;O)

[jwilson004athotmail]

@mrmonkeyman50 not once did I say in the video that you have to use this type of container indefinately, the entire purpose of this series of videos is to show how i personally built a kit on the cheap. The advice is out there for people to use or not use it's their choice. This is how I got started, not how everyone HAS to get started. Like I say in my videos 'if it works for you then it works for you" obviously this piece of info doesn't work for you. Honestly it doesnt have to be for everyone

[practicalsurvivor]

@mrmonkeyman50 While it may be under scrutiny, I find that there is always going to be someone arguing a point on the internet.  The idea is to build a survival kit on a budget. Point stands, if it is approved for food grade, I will comfortably drink water out of it. Many studies have been done on migration of organic compounds on PET and I am fairly certain I will die from the air I breath before leaching plastic.

[TheOriginalJoeBloggs]

06:45 There are different types of plastic, no all are safe for RE-USE, check the Plastic Code 1-7 google "Understanding-Plastic-Codes.p­df"

[jwilson004athotmail]

@TheOriginalJoeBloggs Thank you for showing us the correct site to know what is safe for use.

[seanmulhall]

I love this video. Thanks Jake for sharing your ideas.

[jwilson004athotmail]

@seanmulhall Thank you sean, did you get the bracelet from Chris yet?

[seanmulhall]

@jwilson004athotmail

No. Does he know it is for me?

[jwilson004athotmail]

@seanmulhall he should I told that silly wanker one of them was yours

[seanmulhall]

@jwilson004athotmail No problem. I'll give him a call.and see what he says. Thanks for making it Jake.

[wulfesinger67]

also if the lid is left sealed in the fire it will build up presure and explode!

[jwilson004athotmail]

@wulfesinger67 that is a very good point I realized after re-filming that I left that part out. I would definately not want to be around when one of those caps went flying!

[medicjimr]

Great versatile  little kit

[JimboJitsu]

wow 832 views, really cool!

[fatbob1950]

EXCELLENT !

[jwilson004athotmail]

@fatbob1950 thank you!!

[kyadak]

Awesome ideas... keep em coming....

[jwilson004athotmail]

@kyadak Thank you, I am definately working on it!!

[FranceBushcraft]

Nice review, thanks for sharing.........

[jwilson004athotmail]

@FranceBushcraft Thank you for watching, I really appreciate it!!

[Rockhopper421]

Great video. Not nagging, but the pace is a tad slow at times.  No worries.

[jwilson004athotmail]

@Rockhopper421 yeah that's my fault I had to keep checking if our newborn was still asleep when I was filming. I am using this time to do some at home vids, in a few months I will be getting back out into the bush for some outdoor vids.

[practicalsurvivor]

Awesome and very clear. I think this series is going to be great. I liked Jimbo's free bag tip. Once you change your mindset you will start to find a lot of free items that we take for granted on day to day life. Out in the bush, those same items are great. Thanks Jake

[jwilson004athotmail]

@practicalsurvivor thank you bro, for opening my eyes just a little more!! Thanks for watching as well!!

[jwilson004athotmail]

@softairguy65 , thanks man, let me know what you think of the series once I get a couple more up

[BushcraftOnFire]

Great job Jake..

Looks like a fine BOB that won't cost an arm and a leg... Should definitely do the job!

[jwilson004athotmail]

@BushcraftOnFire , thanks David, I have the fire kit coming up soon!! Keep an eye out

[JimboJitsu]

awesome video my friend!

Great tips all the way through!

Love your website too!

A free bag tip... Any bar that sells crown royal will usually be happy to give you the bags the bottles come in as they just throw them away. I got dozens that way and use them to keep all my veggie seed packets in.

Love your video's looking forward to the next one!

[jwilson004athotmail]

That is an awesome tip thanks Jimbo for posting that!!

[JimboJitsu]

@jwilson004athotmail

Any time, love your videos!

[jwilson004athotmail]

@JimboJitsu Thanks man that means alot!!

[desertsurvivalist]

Great information and very well presented!

[jwilson004athotmail]

Thanks brother, glad I took your advice to reshoot it!

[bearpatch1]

Jake, first rate 5/5* vid. great info and content. solid series going on BOB.

glad to view all of it. thanks for your time and dedication.-----JC

[jwilson004athotmail]

Thank you JC, I'm jus glad I had the chance to reshoot I really wanted to get this info out there