People, seriously, Microsoft controls over 90% of the market, they are not trying to "convert" people. They are trying to change their image from "big scary evil corporation" to "responsible company that makes products for everyday people".
They have given up on Vista, the purpose of these ads are NOT to promote Vista. They are actively working on Windows 7. Windows runs the majority of software on the planet, it's just a fact at this point in time.
The Mac commercial is right. Microsoft should have spent the money they used for this advertising campaign on development for Vista. The performance of this OS (and I am a user and I know first-hand) is atrocious.
Specs:
Quadcore 2.4GHz
3 GB RAM
7200RPM SATA drives
256MB Nvidia Graphics Card
On an XP installation my computer would run beautifully. For professional purposes (video editing, audio production, intense photo editing) Vista is BAD.
i dont see why there spending all of this money for marketing campaigning for vista. what they should do is admit there mistake and show off 7 and how it will be done right.
hold on, my operating system loses because steve jobs said mac os wasn't going to support blu-ray? they left it up to thirdparty? yeah - you're logic. well, i suppose - you do think you're getting good value buying Mac hardware. lol.
vista does. i plug in a bluray drive and it tells me that there is a BD-ROM drive now in the removeable storage section. i can use it, natively.
dont you follow apple? stevie doesnt like bluray. "bag of hurt". he doesn't consider it multi-billion dollar. maybe you should take that up with him. get some up-to-date facts.
lol-if you think THAT'S harassment! welcome to the internet, kid. it aint pretty. what evidence do you want? that windows is unstable? insecure? weakest os in production? i can easily answer all of these with backup sources.
um... you didnt hear about all this? they got in trouble for including a stripped down version of msn messenger. i think some companies even complained about movie maker.
i know google kicked up a fuss about microsoft building search into the operating system (though they were silent on mac os).
no, i wasnt saying that it didnt happen. you were telling me to search for "streaming contingincies in windows media player", not the EU ruling. i didnt say it didnt happen.
i dont agree with it, its just their way of making money, it disadvantaged customers. its pure socialism. it is exactly what i was saying though - you say its bad microsoft doesn't include all of the software out of the box (instead of free downloads), but you applaud court orders that stop them from doing that.
it got rid of some of microsoft's manipulating, controlling software. if ANYTHING is socialistic-it's THAT! I don't mind when anyone includes programs within their os. just don't trounce on other software, while doing so. and these instances did just that!
and btw, instead of having one programme to view photos, one programme to watch dvds, one to watch videos, one to listen to music - we have it all in media player or media centre.
Am I saying you have no right to speak? I live in America too! And it doesn't matter what country you are from! Do you know how many kids are in this voilent discussion? I bet 70% are under 16, and arguing just because they think their OS is better. Just please heed my words. Do you really want to ruin somebody's day because they use Windows, or if they use Mac or even Linux? Grow up. I'm 12 and i'm better than that. I'm a PC and I love Halloween =) Happy Halloween brother, happy Halloween.
I'll tell you what. If these discussions bother anyone, why don't they not even come here(like you). it's like clicking on a miller commercial and chastising the bud person who goes there, to defend his or her preferance. If they are 16 or 60, what does it matter? are you going to outlaw debate in schools, too? are you one of those neo-nazis that wants total control of everything? sorry, I'm a Christian. We don't celebrate halloween. (joke)
Okay you know what, i'm about to have a good sleep, because I have a LONG day of chours ahead of me, good night my friend, and hopefully you will learn to be more OS electric. I don't care if you use mac or windows or linux, remember, I am still everybody's friend. I'm a Mac, and I like candy. I'm a Linux, and I like strawberries. I'm a PC and I like white T shirts.
1. How much time do you have spamming this chat? Your not even giving any proof to ANYBODY why you hate windows
2. Your a Mac or Linux or w/e and just verbally harassed a 12 year old online. Congratz, not you can get fined or go to jail. And guess what? You harassed a 12 year old for using Windows because currently thats the only thing he has, and this 12 year old (me) likes all operating systems. Is an apology in order to you?
1. I have used a Mac A LOT and I don't care what is better. I may be a kid, but i'm a smart-unspoiled kid, and if My dad bought my a Windows, thats what I will use
2. Yes I can, and I am still expecting an apology.
almost every enterprise business you will find, almost every small business you will find - they run Windows.
oh and by the way, i noticed your comments to deadlynova965. guess what? im a kid too. how does it feel to be outdone by someone in a younger age category?
almost every industry was powered by horses until the advent of the internal combustion engine. would you have industry be shackled with old, outdated modes or use new, more useful ones? "how does it feel to be outdone by someone in a younger age category?"
I'll let you know the moment that actually happens!
no, see unlike you im not obsessive about comparisons."
so, if someone gave you a computer with windows 98on it, you would ALSO say, it's great-right? since you don't ever compare, you'd be just as happy with windows 98.
"look, just because you annoyed that you paid to much for a computer"
insults now? how childish. no, I paid far less than what any compareable pc can do.
in 1900, horse and buggy marketshare dwindled the auto industry. but times change and innovations take hold and the archaic falls by the wayside. I have the real personal computer: an Apple macintosh, which has its far superior operating system to any of those produced, thus far, at Microsoft. i refer you to garethhallnz, for the pricing myth debunked
nope. still in denial mate. go onto compare a macbook to any PC notebook, macbook pro to any high-end notebook, an imac to an all in one (though this area is closer in some cases).
the only one that i think is at all reasonable is the mac pro - and it is pushing it in some cases.
you are lying, why are you doing this?
STOP USING THE HORSE AND CAR REFERENCE. it is wrong and immature, i have clearly explained this so many times.
the links are ridiculously long (being store things). but you can easily find this yourself. both of these are in AUD and from the australian websites.
Dell XPS M1530 - $2,299
Apple MacBook Pro - $3,999
now, the Dell doesn't have the 9600m graphics, but everything else is the same or better (eg, 500GB HDD to Apple's 320GB - no option for 500).
i have the M1730 - it is more powerful (SLI!) and cheaper, but not the same form factor, so I left that one.
the frontside bus on the dell? 800 mhz with a 6mb cache, apple has 1066 mhz with a 6mb cache. macbook pro has ddr3 ram, dell ddr2. wheres the firewire? ilife alternative? none. and please pm the links. I couldn't even get CLOSE to that price for the macbook pro (U.S.) but still...
hahaha! are you serious about the FSB? and DDR3??? omg! okay. so we've worked out you don't know too much about hardware.
the ieee1394 is on the left side just after the HDMI-out, and dont go back to the ilife, the only thing you are missing is garageband - which is, well, useless after you play a bit.
so anyway, we've proven that apple notebooks aren't good value for money.
a mac pro is the only hardware from apple that i would consider buying, compliment it with a nice 30" 3008WFP from dell of course. AUD$1799, thank-you-very-much. good screen.
actually ddr3 makes a big difference I used a new macbook with 2gb of ddr3 and that was a lot faster than the old with 2gb ddr2 the rest was the same except for the GPU and the CPU
although i dont agree with your warped comparisons, it would be more correct for it to be reversed - the mac being the horse and cart.
mac is always behind. no, listen. a new processor comes out from intel - its about half a year or more before you get it. and you can get PCs more highly configured to. so PCs are more powerful if you want to spend that kinda money.
oh, and how's blu-ray going for you? ah. right. thats a big bag o' hurt now, isn't it?
Am I saying a PC is significant? Did I say there is anything wrong with saying what you are? I'm talking about arguing, and fighting, and stress people get just from typing letters on which OS they like, and why they might HATE another OS. Are you trying to start an argument? If you are, I don't give a who and I will just ignore you, and you will waste your time trying to make a useless point. I'm a PC and I used Linux, and Mac, but I don't discriminate against systems. I just prefer what I have
there was a time when horse and buggy had the same marketshare over automobiles as microsoft windows does over OS X. what color is your horse and what's it's name?
uh, doofus, the point WAS that archaic horse and buggy has been soundly overtaken by the automobile. just as archaic windows is being overtaken by osx.
first off, those are COMPUTERS shipped in the first quarter of 2008. not percentage of computers using OS X. and those are computers sent to retail stores, aren't they? not actually sold? just because there are a ton more pcs on shelves, in more stores, gathering dust, does not impress me.
Those PC cameras and microphones suck,
Get a Mac.
Hildron101010 2 years ago
damn you, you had to go and nick my point, now i have nothing to coment about. lol
boblifegoeson1234 2 years ago 2
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
My friends and I always complain when my friend uses his built in iSight camera for a microphone. It's SO annoying when we're talking on skype.
benigidachef 2 years ago
what?
2PacsFather2 2 years ago
I' m a PC!
whgIIIfabio 2 years ago
does anyone know what the song, or where to find the song that is playing during these commcericals?
dummydave2000 3 years ago
I love these ads; although the title of Ingraham's book, power to the people!
clinds 3 years ago 3
These ads are boring.
At least the Mac ads put effort and creativity into it.
"I'm a PC and I blah blah"
These ads are pretty lame. Mac ads are better.
quartum 3 years ago
0:19
Gam3Attack 3 years ago 2
i luv the im a pc and i like BLING! lol
LJKBIGMAC 3 years ago
00:27
xtra lulz...
rlopez010 3 years ago
haha meant 00:26
:D
rlopez010 3 years ago
PFFFFTT NOOBS!!
Flashingkill 3 years ago
PFFFFFFFT NOOBS!!!!!!!
angryguywalking911 3 years ago
hahah i want to upload a video :D
i just have to record it
elmtreess 3 years ago
People, seriously, Microsoft controls over 90% of the market, they are not trying to "convert" people. They are trying to change their image from "big scary evil corporation" to "responsible company that makes products for everyday people".
They have given up on Vista, the purpose of these ads are NOT to promote Vista. They are actively working on Windows 7. Windows runs the majority of software on the planet, it's just a fact at this point in time.
mistasopz 3 years ago 2
The Mac commercial is right. Microsoft should have spent the money they used for this advertising campaign on development for Vista. The performance of this OS (and I am a user and I know first-hand) is atrocious.
Specs:
Quadcore 2.4GHz
3 GB RAM
7200RPM SATA drives
256MB Nvidia Graphics Card
On an XP installation my computer would run beautifully. For professional purposes (video editing, audio production, intense photo editing) Vista is BAD.
areuter727 3 years ago
i dont see why there spending all of this money for marketing campaigning for vista. what they should do is admit there mistake and show off 7 and how it will be done right.
andr123w 3 years ago
Your an ignorant fool. Shut the hell up.
mindblast187 3 years ago
And you're sexually-frustrated.
LampEight 3 years ago
shut up microsoft owns so much money its not slowing any development down they are professionals
OmegaFuckingWeapon 3 years ago
0:19 lol
catpersonlover13 3 years ago
lol yea
melonk1ller 3 years ago
phh noobs lol
catpersonlover13 3 years ago
I'm on a MBP and it is an excellent machine. Better or worse can depend on a huge number of factors, including personal preference.
Epicureanparadox 3 years ago
:27 yehh Lolz :D
rlopez010 3 years ago
This is Microsoft, trying to be Hip
:)
Revenge1986 3 years ago
Its Microsoft.
Revenge1986 3 years ago
I like these Microsoft ads.
Revenge1986 3 years ago
ima pc.
but im not as lame as these ppl.
SatanhamProductions 3 years ago
Im a PC, and I hate Apple fanboys.
NerdsVSWorld 3 years ago
well, they did it. They've finally convinced me to learn Linux, or go mac....
CONGRATS MICROSHAFT!!!
sonofagun73 3 years ago
I love this song
Cowman715 3 years ago
I'm a PC, and a skatepark is my office.
thisisdrewscott 3 years ago
I'm not a PC, but I use one.
gsmittyuniy 3 years ago
windows cant be held up without walls. life without walls ... YOU WISH. apples can be held up with walls. penguins too.
dotheunexpected 3 years ago
I like chasing Zebras too!
chaoskof 3 years ago
whatdoes she say at 0:19? plz tell me
howdyoudo 3 years ago
"im a pc and by that i dont mean politicly correct"
kaylaisaho123 3 years ago
its a male at 0:19 by the way and he says psh noobs...
yesiam2113 3 years ago
ahahaha 0:19 that is the definition of the pc only it is stuck in the 90's when they dominated
JaysHuskers 3 years ago
I'm a PC, and I love grammar!
MightyMolly 3 years ago
MACINTOSH FTW
OTownNewl 3 years ago
i like the 360 guy
shazukal 3 years ago
is it 0:19
Gam3Attack 3 years ago
NOOBS
fogs11 3 years ago
lol
Gam3Attack 3 years ago
GOD I HATE :25 AND :27
lololzak 3 years ago
NOOBS
Wiktor360 3 years ago
"I'm a machine"
GainesWorthy 3 years ago
im a pc AND I SUCK
videosyouwantnow 3 years ago
False advertising lol
jake101x 3 years ago
YYYEEAH
skaterboy727 3 years ago
blingg bich, luv her.
Sweetvixen420 3 years ago
MAC FOR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!
kingtorm2 3 years ago
mac mac mac mac mac mac
SonyVegasTutor 3 years ago
mac mac mac mac mac sucks :D
I've had my mac crash 3 times just trying to load a WARCRAFT THREE map.
Phoenix3568 3 years ago 2
your a nerd...
OTownNewl 3 years ago
That must be hard to do.
CITGProductions 3 years ago
oh arent u clever?
apieceofcheez 3 years ago
"and i wrangle llamas"
hahahaha
soccer69567 3 years ago
ima PC and im a machine LMAO
Brndon076 3 years ago
:27 LMAO :D
rlopez010 3 years ago
the last guy lol!
th3toiletguy9111 3 years ago
That not politically correct girl is hot
DavidsTechShow101 3 years ago
i LOVE LOVE LOVE...0:15-16...I'M A MACHINE!.That guys facial expression creeps me out but in a way i think its cute and hilarious.
~bb
bab17 3 years ago
Logical fallacy ad numerum. Just because these select people believe Windows is a good operating system does not make it a good operating system.
asphyxiateDrake00 3 years ago
I'm not against people who are PCs but this Ad only proves that PC videos have HORRIBLE quality.
mmmuuufffiiinnnsss 3 years ago
lol "noobs"
lax196 3 years ago
Mac started this so in your face mac. IM A PC.
chuco2626 3 years ago
heh, yeah I thought the same thing, but I think it's actually just the back of the chair that makes it look small..
Amrunnya 3 years ago
Great point!!
MiaSays 3 years ago
Kinda like Barack Obama and John Mccain. Which explains why mccain lost
angryguywalking911 3 years ago
"Noobs" lol reminds me of so many people I know
sk8erzbmx 3 years ago
i can relate
skater917 3 years ago
because windows is better than that
tictac4884 3 years ago 2
true.
a little mindless in ways what they do, but regardless though. at least what they're saying is technically true, and not slanting the truth. =P
TheDevCamExperience 3 years ago
Loved the commercial, especially the "I'm a PC and I love BLING!" and the "Noobs." Hey, it made me laugh ^^
InsaneRema 3 years ago 4
tut tut.
as i recall from my readings, apple definitely had a huge gain on anybody else in terms of market share - early eighties.
now now, lets not get all worked up.
widerangledotcom 3 years ago
also: mac os first released: 1984
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago
well, you were the one who "didn't need to compare"
btw, the operating system doesn't support it, its other companies making the software to read it."
are you saying that the software runs independent of the os????
face it, your operating system loses, miserably..
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago
the software runs on top of the OS.
hold on, my operating system loses because steve jobs said mac os wasn't going to support blu-ray? they left it up to thirdparty? yeah - you're logic. well, i suppose - you do think you're getting good value buying Mac hardware. lol.
vista does. i plug in a bluray drive and it tells me that there is a BD-ROM drive now in the removeable storage section. i can use it, natively.
widerangledotcom 3 years ago
ht tp://w ww. engadgethd. com/2008/09/22/blu-ray-support-destined-for-mac-os-x-10-5-6
yeah, we got support for the multi-billion dollar blu-ray industry-lol. once again, you were wrong.
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago
haha. nope. sorry, but you are wrong - again!
dont you follow apple? stevie doesnt like bluray. "bag of hurt". he doesn't consider it multi-billion dollar. maybe you should take that up with him. get some up-to-date facts.
engadget[dot]com/2008/10/14/steve-jobs-calls-blu-ray-a-bag-of-hurt/
widerangledotcom 3 years ago
i guess we shall see when 10.6 comes out, or was this a ploy to GET those licensing fees down?
"but the licensing of the tech is so complex, we're waiting till things settle down and Blu-ray takes off in the marketplace."
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago
i dont know.
all i know, that there has been a few reports in the last two weeks that its almost definitely not going to be in 10.6.
its been almost two and a half years now since burners were out...
almost all PC notebooks now come with bluray readers or have the option to have one.
widerangledotcom 3 years ago
and yet i can't think of why i would WANT one, in ANY computer. television? yeah. computer- not important
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago
huh? er... burners - so you can author high-definition discs... and apple is meant to be the 'pro' choice for video editing.
plus, us PC users have these things called HTPCs (home theatre PCs), yeah... exceptionally useful.
widerangledotcom 3 years ago
im a vista pc and i LOVE it !!!
Reflex11235 3 years ago 2
lol-if you think THAT'S harassment! welcome to the internet, kid. it aint pretty. what evidence do you want? that windows is unstable? insecure? weakest os in production? i can easily answer all of these with backup sources.
now relax, kid
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago
im a pc
seanswans 3 years ago
nothing on par with iweb, numbnuts
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago
yes, plus its got social features - so id say more.
widerangledotcom 3 years ago
can you create a fully fledged website with live writer + live spaces?
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago
hm.
honestly, do you really think what iweb makes - is a fully-fledged website?
yeah... no...
they do much the same thing.
widerangledotcom 3 years ago
i think it does more
ht tp://ww w. apple. com/ilife/iweb/#widgets
and i can do mine, out of the box, can you?
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago
gallery[dot]live[dot]com
web gadgets.
unfortunately, microsoft gets sued if it tries to do anything nice like doing stuff out of the box. so no, i cant (some, yes, but not all).
its just one download though, its not bad.
widerangledotcom 3 years ago
when has microsoft been sued for 'doing something nice'?
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago
um... you didnt hear about all this? they got in trouble for including a stripped down version of msn messenger. i think some companies even complained about movie maker.
i know google kicked up a fuss about microsoft building search into the operating system (though they were silent on mac os).
widerangledotcom 3 years ago
didn't hear about that. do you have a link? i knew they got in trouble for streaming contingincies in windows media player. (and rightfully so)
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago
dude. its called google search. far out. im not going to spoon-feed everything to you.
search "Google goes back to court over Vista search tools". you can find it, like, three seconds.
and microsoft got sued for adding streaming support? i dont know what you mean.
widerangledotcom 3 years ago
dude, it's called google search.
type in 'microsoft windows EU'
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago
er, first of all, i did search for what you were going on about: "streaming contingincies in windows media player" - nothing about being sued.
so shutup.
widerangledotcom 3 years ago
ht tp://w ww. iht. com/articles/2006/04/25/yourmoney/msft. php?page=1
618 million LOST by microsoft
so shutup!
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago
no, i wasnt saying that it didnt happen. you were telling me to search for "streaming contingincies in windows media player", not the EU ruling. i didnt say it didnt happen.
i dont agree with it, its just their way of making money, it disadvantaged customers. its pure socialism. it is exactly what i was saying though - you say its bad microsoft doesn't include all of the software out of the box (instead of free downloads), but you applaud court orders that stop them from doing that.
widerangledotcom 3 years ago
it got rid of some of microsoft's manipulating, controlling software. if ANYTHING is socialistic-it's THAT! I don't mind when anyone includes programs within their os. just don't trounce on other software, while doing so. and these instances did just that!
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago
yes. damn that media player, for which you can easily install an alternative if you wish.
how dare microsoft try and compete!
you cant have your cake and eat it too.
(complain that microsoft doesnt preload everything, then say its good they are not allowed to).
widerangledotcom 3 years ago
competing is fine. monopolizing, is not. microsoft had monopolistic technologies with this media player
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago
and btw, instead of having one programme to view photos, one programme to watch dvds, one to watch videos, one to listen to music - we have it all in media player or media centre.
widerangledotcom 3 years ago
Am I saying you have no right to speak? I live in America too! And it doesn't matter what country you are from! Do you know how many kids are in this voilent discussion? I bet 70% are under 16, and arguing just because they think their OS is better. Just please heed my words. Do you really want to ruin somebody's day because they use Windows, or if they use Mac or even Linux? Grow up. I'm 12 and i'm better than that. I'm a PC and I love Halloween =) Happy Halloween brother, happy Halloween.
deadlynova965 3 years ago
I'll tell you what. If these discussions bother anyone, why don't they not even come here(like you). it's like clicking on a miller commercial and chastising the bud person who goes there, to defend his or her preferance. If they are 16 or 60, what does it matter? are you going to outlaw debate in schools, too? are you one of those neo-nazis that wants total control of everything? sorry, I'm a Christian. We don't celebrate halloween. (joke)
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago
Okay you know what, i'm about to have a good sleep, because I have a LONG day of chours ahead of me, good night my friend, and hopefully you will learn to be more OS electric. I don't care if you use mac or windows or linux, remember, I am still everybody's friend. I'm a Mac, and I like candy. I'm a Linux, and I like strawberries. I'm a PC and I like white T shirts.
deadlynova965 3 years ago
you forgot to say that you're a loon and are ashamed of your pc.
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago
1. How much time do you have spamming this chat? Your not even giving any proof to ANYBODY why you hate windows
2. Your a Mac or Linux or w/e and just verbally harassed a 12 year old online. Congratz, not you can get fined or go to jail. And guess what? You harassed a 12 year old for using Windows because currently thats the only thing he has, and this 12 year old (me) likes all operating systems. Is an apology in order to you?
deadlynova965 3 years ago
1)having used windows since its beginning, I can honestly tell you its currently the weakest os (in stability, for example) currently in production.
2)no one commanded that you even leave a comment. if you think that my calling you a 'loon' is harrasment, all i can say is LOL
windows doesn't HAVE to be the only thing you have. how much experience with a mac, running OS X do you, personally, have?
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago
1. I have used a Mac A LOT and I don't care what is better. I may be a kid, but i'm a smart-unspoiled kid, and if My dad bought my a Windows, thats what I will use
2. Yes I can, and I am still expecting an apology.
deadlynova965 3 years ago
1) please define 'A LOT' you can get linux for ANY pc, and its free.
2)please learn respect for your elders who have actually used these systems since their inception. now, go to bed!
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago
hm. no you cant.
proof that it is not the weakest is simple.
almost every enterprise business you will find, almost every small business you will find - they run Windows.
oh and by the way, i noticed your comments to deadlynova965. guess what? im a kid too. how does it feel to be outdone by someone in a younger age category?
widerangledotcom 3 years ago
almost every industry was powered by horses until the advent of the internal combustion engine. would you have industry be shackled with old, outdated modes or use new, more useful ones? "how does it feel to be outdone by someone in a younger age category?"
I'll let you know the moment that actually happens!
<:+)
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago
so you're comparing windows and mac os to a horse and a modern-day engine?
thats like comparing... well, apples to oranges.
im using my new, more useful on now! vista is great!
"I'll let you know the moment that actually happens!"
consider it done. i'm waiting.
widerangledotcom 3 years ago
im using my new, more useful on now! vista is great!" compared to what? windows me? windows 98? two cups and a string?
consider that it hasn't happened yet!
NEXT!
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago
no, see unlike you im not obsessive about comparisons.
vista is great. no comparison to anything.
it simply is.
you're obviously in denial.
look, just because you annoyed that you paid to much for a computer doesn't mean you have to attempt to ruin the experience for others.
widerangledotcom 3 years ago
no, see unlike you im not obsessive about comparisons."
so, if someone gave you a computer with windows 98on it, you would ALSO say, it's great-right? since you don't ever compare, you'd be just as happy with windows 98.
"look, just because you annoyed that you paid to much for a computer"
insults now? how childish. no, I paid far less than what any compareable pc can do.
NEXT!
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago
i no doubt would. unlike you though - i don't make ridiculous comparisons, horse to a car? wtf?
no, no, not an insult. i was merely pointing it out, which seems to struck a nerve. don't worry, you can always by a real PC for your next computer.
and by the way, no you didn't, do not lie. i guarantee you that you paid more for a PC of equivalent hardware.
widerangledotcom 3 years ago
in 1900, horse and buggy marketshare dwindled the auto industry. but times change and innovations take hold and the archaic falls by the wayside. I have the real personal computer: an Apple macintosh, which has its far superior operating system to any of those produced, thus far, at Microsoft. i refer you to garethhallnz, for the pricing myth debunked
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago
nope. still in denial mate. go onto compare a macbook to any PC notebook, macbook pro to any high-end notebook, an imac to an all in one (though this area is closer in some cases).
the only one that i think is at all reasonable is the mac pro - and it is pushing it in some cases.
you are lying, why are you doing this?
STOP USING THE HORSE AND CAR REFERENCE. it is wrong and immature, i have clearly explained this so many times.
widerangledotcom 3 years ago
ok-YOU send me a link of a lower priced pc BETTER than the cheapest macbook pro.
you are right, comparing windows to a horse is unfair. windows is more like what falls out the back end of the horse!
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago
easy done.
the links are ridiculously long (being store things). but you can easily find this yourself. both of these are in AUD and from the australian websites.
Dell XPS M1530 - $2,299
Apple MacBook Pro - $3,999
now, the Dell doesn't have the 9600m graphics, but everything else is the same or better (eg, 500GB HDD to Apple's 320GB - no option for 500).
i have the M1730 - it is more powerful (SLI!) and cheaper, but not the same form factor, so I left that one.
widerangledotcom 3 years ago
the frontside bus on the dell? 800 mhz with a 6mb cache, apple has 1066 mhz with a 6mb cache. macbook pro has ddr3 ram, dell ddr2. wheres the firewire? ilife alternative? none. and please pm the links. I couldn't even get CLOSE to that price for the macbook pro (U.S.) but still...
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago
hahaha! are you serious about the FSB? and DDR3??? omg! okay. so we've worked out you don't know too much about hardware.
the ieee1394 is on the left side just after the HDMI-out, and dont go back to the ilife, the only thing you are missing is garageband - which is, well, useless after you play a bit.
store.apple[dot]com/au/configure/MB940X/A?mco=MTkzODk1Mw
and
configure.ap.dell[dot]com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=au&cs=audhs1&kc=&l=en&oc=R541116AU&s=dhs
widerangledotcom 3 years ago
hahaha! are you serious about the FSB? and DDR3??? omg! okay. so we've worked out you don't know too much about hardware."
so are you saying a LOWER fsb is better and that ddr2 is BETTER than ddr3?
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago
no, no, not at all. but the difference is incredibly minimal, like - incredibly.
not worth the extra $1800 i think - rather, know.
widerangledotcom 3 years ago
intersting that hte page you gave for apple was showing a 1.83 ghz processor which they no longer offer
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago
hey, that's apple's problem. just go to
apple[dot]com[dot]au
so anyway, we've proven that apple notebooks aren't good value for money.
a mac pro is the only hardware from apple that i would consider buying, compliment it with a nice 30" 3008WFP from dell of course. AUD$1799, thank-you-very-much. good screen.
widerangledotcom 3 years ago
actually ddr3 makes a big difference I used a new macbook with 2gb of ddr3 and that was a lot faster than the old with 2gb ddr2 the rest was the same except for the GPU and the CPU
DavidsTechShow101 3 years ago
all the test results that i see (google to find) say different. the gpu and cpu would be the ones giving the extra power.
widerangledotcom 3 years ago
by the way. you fail completely.
times did change, windows overtook mac OS. hahaha. so, wait, you think the horse is going to come back and overtake the car?
dude. just give up, every point - you are wrong.
widerangledotcom 3 years ago
video posted, just for you!
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago
huh?
just thought of another thing.
although i dont agree with your warped comparisons, it would be more correct for it to be reversed - the mac being the horse and cart.
mac is always behind. no, listen. a new processor comes out from intel - its about half a year or more before you get it. and you can get PCs more highly configured to. so PCs are more powerful if you want to spend that kinda money.
oh, and how's blu-ray going for you? ah. right. thats a big bag o' hurt now, isn't it?
widerangledotcom 3 years ago
do you*
deadlynova965 3 years ago
if you do not care, whatsoever, why did you have to state that you are a PC? are you saying that the fact that you are a PC is significant?
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago
Am I saying a PC is significant? Did I say there is anything wrong with saying what you are? I'm talking about arguing, and fighting, and stress people get just from typing letters on which OS they like, and why they might HATE another OS. Are you trying to start an argument? If you are, I don't give a who and I will just ignore you, and you will waste your time trying to make a useless point. I'm a PC and I used Linux, and Mac, but I don't discriminate against systems. I just prefer what I have
deadlynova965 3 years ago
IM A PC AND I LOVE THE 360.
geojhkj 3 years ago
Apple Wacs are overrated!
phrentik 3 years ago
Go Microsoft!
theasder 3 years ago
With over 100000 viruses available you are sure to find something to crap you off severely, buy VISTA now!
keydesignz34 3 years ago 2
PCs are better than Macs.
theclefe 3 years ago
OS X is better than windows
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago
no, that is your opinion.
not the opinion of more than a billion of PC users.
widerangledotcom 3 years ago
there was a time when horse and buggy had the same marketshare over automobiles as microsoft windows does over OS X. what color is your horse and what's it's name?
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago
haha. your comparison is so lame.
hey guess what? current day comparison - the automobile share has the same (maybe more) market share over the horse and buggy.
what colour is your horse and what's its name?
haha. owned. but it was an easy shot - you kinda left yourself opened.
widerangledotcom 3 years ago
uh, doofus, the point WAS that archaic horse and buggy has been soundly overtaken by the automobile. just as archaic windows is being overtaken by osx.
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago
oh yes. we've seen the rapid growth of apple's market share to 3.6% (worldwide) in twenty years! look out windows!!!
widerangledotcom 3 years ago
uh, its grown from 4% to 8-10% in just 2 years
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago
maybe in america (though i think it's more like 6% to 8%). world wide its a touch under 4%, still.
widerangledotcom 3 years ago
ht tp://ww w. pcretailmag. com/news/29628/Mac-market-share-on-the-rise-globally
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago
here we go, found it. in Q1 2008 - 3.62% worldwide, 6.26% in the US. average of gartner and IDC numbers. so it's actually less then i though.
disappointing...
widerangledotcom 3 years ago
your source please. otherwise, you are lieing
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago
i gave it to you in the first one. its an average of IDC and Gartner numbers.
widerangledotcom 3 years ago
i mean the link please
i gave you mine
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago
okay. idc[dot]com and gartner[dot]com
widerangledotcom 3 years ago
ok, now it's quite obvious that you are hiding the truth
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago
huh? how?
widerangledotcom 3 years ago
by not providing specific links to this information, as I have
it's such a shame you have to hide things like this, but then, that IS the windows way...
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago
settle down.
community[dot]winsupersite[dot]com/blogs/paul/archive/2008/04/24/mac-q1-2008-market-share-3-26-percent-worldwide-6-26-percent-in-the-us[dot]aspx
widerangledotcom 3 years ago
first off, those are COMPUTERS shipped in the first quarter of 2008. not percentage of computers using OS X. and those are computers sent to retail stores, aren't they? not actually sold? just because there are a ton more pcs on shelves, in more stores, gathering dust, does not impress me.
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago
oh and, its not actually that much of a growth. apple grew 25.1% while acer (not including gateway) grew 92.9%. so, yeah.
widerangledotcom 3 years ago
IM A PC! And I love being a PC. :)
SmittyxXx007 3 years ago
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and again.....microsoft humiliated it self
bepbru 3 years ago
I feel ... mercy.
TiceHH 3 years ago
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Windoze sux
hartig1967 3 years ago
m8... tell me 1 good reasons why
okreset 3 years ago 2
inefficient slow operating system compared to OS X.
wellhowdydeux 3 years ago