Mig 21 & Su 37

[batvaify]

дай бог здоровья всем конструкторам "Конструкторского бюро имени Сухого". РЕБЯТА МОЛОДЦЫ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TATARSTAN59500]

su-37 nothing compare to he maneuvrability

no have any plane we can 360 dgres

[Chunmeista]

I can't even do a front reverse backflip... I'm jealous.

[egorushka1978]

это смотреть можно вечно! просто великолепно!

[Auzeras]

There was MiG 21 for sale in NZ a few months ago. I lost the bids :(

[godzilligan]

they made 11,496 of mig21... now thats A LOT

[fared70]

simply woooooooooooooooooow

[mig21super]

I Suggest to India give a thought to purchase the Brother of SU.30MKI

[mig21super]

Great fighter planes for his time,especially "MIG.21" The father of modern fighter jets.

[leeking007]

The SU 37 makes me crack a mongrel like the rusky sheila in the right hand corner.

[DK988]

Is it just me or are Russian jets so damn SEXY!! ( just like their chicks )

[nonickworks]

russian jets are sexy. especially the su-37, awesome!

[DirtyThing20]

Cy 37 is the best fighter in the world!!!

[ZLOI111]

ТЕРМИНАТОР

[vanb80]

россии уже хана - об этом говорит то, что нато, где хочет там и бомбит

[Tihomir7777]

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[flammesification]

MIGOYAN 

[denis861000]

РОССИЯ ВЕЛИКАЯ ДЕРЖАВА!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[l2e4LLy]

@nicccck05 They aren't bankrupt, and the fact they purposefully-produce hardware that their allies can 'afford' to buy might be part of the reason for it.

[peha0001]

Does anyone know name of the song played in this video?

THX very much

[CyberdyneModelT101]

@peha0001 Crystal Method/Keep Hope Alive

[wodolei65]

СЛАВА РОССИИ!

[davidds0]

ye lol mig 21 is really the AK-47 :D

[viowave]

I think one thing with the this new kind of generation is overlooked. The afforability and the cost of development. What nation can afford a fleet of Su37 , F-22 or such aircraft? US, China, Russia, maybe some Arab. And if no nation want a sizeable number of fighters the builders will probably go bankrupt. ... The succes in the MIG 21, F-5 , MIG 29, F16 lies not only in its design and what it can - but also in the cost of maintain and the price of the plane within the defense budget.

[l2e4LLy]

@viowave The Su-37 is purely a technological demonstrator; a testbed, if you will, to experiment with potential modernizations for "all" late-model Su-27 family members. While there will never thus be many Su-37, virtually any Su-27 could be rebuilt to Su-37 in the event of a real wartime need (and this, at a fraction of the cost and production time required for the output of an entirely new F-22 or other fifth-gen' aircraft).

[viowave]

@l2e4LLy Thanks for your reply. I am aware of the SU-27 familly and instead of develop an entire new plane they just experiment with the winning design since the '70's and that saves time and money for developing each time a entire new aircraft. But that is someting typical Russian to trow nothing usefull away.But if my information is correct outside Russia no other nation has the SU-27. Please correct me. Compare this with the sells of the cheaper MIG-29 also outside the (former) Warchaupact.

[l2e4LLy]

@viowave Outside of Russia; Angola, Belarus, China, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Indonesia, Kazakhistan, the Ukraine, Uzbekistan, Vietnam, and even the United States (a small number purchased, presumably for aggressor training) operate the Su-27 in near-original configuration. Its more-recent development, the Su-30, is also operated by Algeria, China, India, Indonesia, Malaysia, Uganda, Venezuala, and Vietnam.  I haven't looked at its more limited-production models.

[TheVeneth]

@viowave Warsaw pact you tool! From the name of Polish capitol Warszawa..

[tramvaj12]

@viowave And why to develope something new when you have something that working very good... It would be the same if you start develope new Kamaz and this model is wining every most of Dakar Rally :)

[wilfredotour2]

The Mig-21 is the AK-47 of the skies...The Su-37 is the master of the air shows..

[Metalicalypse]

Mig-21 Rocks that's all I can say =)

[MichaelWithstand]

Awesome footage! Thank you for uploading this

[MrEddieLarge]

oh the Mig's. lol. its beautiful. 

[1bearcatf8f]

Most likely a good F-22 pilot would be able to take down an SU-37 but the SU-37 is a test plane so that wont happen btw the US and Russia arnt enemys so people shouldnt say wich country is ebtter sence neither are good.

[ThanatosSGD1]

Don't bring F-22 Craptor into this channel, it's about serious jet fighters

[1bearcatf8f]

@ThanatosSGD1 Yeah you say the F-22 is shit and yet has never seen action so dont judge something that hasnt seen combat.Sorry i cant let a good plane be called crap like that.

[smjakkkk]

05:03 I cant believe... Ne mogu da verujem :)

[Rosacruz01]

3.26 i was thinking that these maneuvers not was posibles!!! Fuck man!! and i think too that f-22 is a shit!!! greetings from México!!!

[1bearcatf8f]

I think the best dogfight would be 1 F-22,1 EF-2000 vs 2 SU-37s it would be long and pretty awsome to see

[1bearcatf8f]

The MiG-21 was a good airplane but it couldnt hold a good turn as most planes could in its time.And it lacked visabillity like all razor back designs.But the SU-37 is only a test aircraft nothing more but a dogfight would be needed we already know wich plane would win.

[l3attlel2oyal]

@1bearcatf8f MiG-21 "was" agile ... it's liability was that, in a tight turning fight, it's delta-wing design very quickly bled off altitude and speed. Hence, it had to get the better of an enemy quickly or end up in a vulnerable position. Egyptian MiG-21 actually shot down Libyan MiG-23 in one of their regional scuffles, however ... the MiG-23 was more advanced, but the MiG-21 was the truer dogfighter.

[1bearcatf8f]

@l3attlel2oyal delta wing???? Uhm thats not a delta wing man.The EF-2000 has a delta wing ok?

[l3attlel2oyal]

@l3attlel2oyal The wing is delta, not dependant on whether or not it is coupled with a true tail; it is about "wing" geometry. The Eurofighter is a "tailless delta wing" configuration, whereas the MiG is just a delta wing. If it were a pure interceptor, they would have likely omitted the tail to increase speed. The delta wing is coupled with a tail, however, to improve overall agility (the Eurofighter substitutes canards, a more recent/aerodynamic innovation).

[1bearcatf8f]

@l3attlel2oyal Its not that much of a delta wing its sorta but not alot.The MiG-21 isnt that good of a plane it has alot of draw backs you need to look up before saying how good it was.Just saying in veitnam F-4s had no problems killing MiGs sence the the MiG-21 couldnt hold a turn and it has poor visability.Its over all nothing special but it was good but that aint a real delta wing.Realy delta wing planes are tailless.

[l3attlel2oyal]

@1bearcatf8f Um, sorry, my info comes from actual texts; the MiG-21 owned the F-4 in terms of agility, and former F-4 pilots readily admit that (I know a few, several who've also flown the MiG-21). The F-4's main technical advantage was in beyond-visual-range combat, and sheer power (enabling it to exploit boom & zoom tactics). The MiG-21, and even the MiG-17, however, were both far superior "dogfighters" ...although NVAF pilots had nowhere near the thorough training of those in USAF & USN.

[1bearcatf8f]

@l3attlel2oyal Same here man.Yeah the F-4 didnt have close range in the creation of the F-4.So the mig wins there.However the F-4 was highly manuverble to and dont denie because its true ive seen them performe and there pretty agile for a big plane.Just saying the MiG-21 had alot of flaws to sence alot of them were flown by inexperienced pilots.Now if you snapped the stick hard say left or right you could lose control really fast but after a while pilots controled the problems.

[l3attlel2oyal]

@1bearcatf8f As per the wing, the definition of wing design is all about "wing" geometry. Whether or not there is a full-fledge tail is irrelevant. Aircraft like the Mirage are called "delta-wing," but more specifically are a "tailless delta wing" configuration. You "can" have a delta "wing," and still have a tail.

[1bearcatf8f]

@l3attlel2oyal Yeah but the traditional delta wing is tailless the delta wing with a tail is less seen on.I think the MiG-21 would have been better off with wings from the MiG-19.

[l3attlel2oyal]

@1bearcatf8f Keep in mind, few MiG aircraft were designed as super-fighters; most intended to be just good "enough" given the vast numerical superiority that the Warsaw Pact air forces had over NATO in the Cold War. Warsaw Pact air forces readily accepted that western aircraft were individually superior to their early MiG types, and instead emphasized low-cost and ease-of-production; the intent being to overwhelm NATO through sheer numbers. Hence, the '21 being the most-produced fighter ever.

[1bearcatf8f]

@l3attlel2oyal Yeah but russias main problem back then was quantity over quality.We dont mass produce planes now a days sence the sheer cost of a single one is alot.Yeah russia can mass produce in great numbers thats how they beat the germans in ww2,there T-34 was massed produced like our Sherman.Just saying you look at todays planes people say how US planes are shit well they have better kill ratios sence they actually see combat.THe 21 isnt the most produced plane in any time.

[l3attlel2oyal]

@1bearcatf8f Over 10 000 MiG-21 were produced, last time I checked... more than any other combat aircraft. That's why I call it the most produced. Not necessarily in terms of rate-of-production at any given moment.

[1bearcatf8f]

@l3attlel2oyal Uhm 16,000 plus P-51 mustangs where produced.As a fighter plane as i know its more produced.But im sure there other planes made in higher numbers for fighters.

[l3attlel2oyal]

@1bearcatf8f I was thinking, but neglected to specify, supersonic aircraft; the MiG-21 being the most numerous with over 11 000 units produced. Prior to the supersonic/missile age, it naturally took more aircraft to control the same airspace. Hence, the MiG-15 (18 000) was the most produced aircraft of the early jet age, and the Messerschmitt Bf-109 (36 000) was the most produced of the piston era.

[1bearcatf8f]

@l3attlel2oyal yeah thats true didnt think of those.I figured the ME-109 would be the most built sence the germans could mass produce them faster than anything.

[l3attlel2oyal]

@1bearcatf8f As per combat records, those from conflicts where MiG aircraft faced off against western types tend to make bad examples; usually the western aircraft having the benefit of better pilots in terms both of preceding flight hours and combat experience. Most of any MiG types' combat history is actually unrecorded in the west, having occurred (ironically) versus "other" MiG aircraft amidst the conflicts of Central Asia and Africa (Pakistan versus India, Egypt versus Libya, etc.).

[1bearcatf8f]

@l3attlel2oyal Well look at this way the F-15 has been combat proven more lethal than the MiG-29 but thats just the pilots in the 29s sucked.But those kills go in the books.Israel has alot of air to air battles sence they call for it pissing off neighboring countrys.There airforce has been undefeated against any airforce in real combat.Sence there NATO they count.Now i hear the EF-2000 beat the F-22 in a practice dogfight well i can that.The F-22 needs a very skilled pilot to fly it.

[l3attlel2oyal]

@1bearcatf8f The most common delta wing configuration is tailless yes, but the MiG-21 is still a delta wing design; just a less common design-example (although the MiG-21 itself is "very" common) featuring a full-fledged tail. It was an attempt to achieve high speed while retaining high agility, and although the combination of delta wing and tail meant that the MiG-21 could fly fast "and" perform tight turns initially, it also caused it to bleed speed off and altitude (in turning) in a hurry.

[l3attlel2oyal]

@l3attlel2oyal Simply put, the MiG started a dogfight with very good performance, but a protracted fight bled of its energy and ability to maintain said performance. It had to kill quickly, or find itself in a disadvantageous (low/slow) position. This was not a factor in Soviet design-calculations, as they could reasonably depend on an immense numerical superiority in any all-out conflict with the West. The MiG-19 had lower potential, but higher sustainable, performance; a trade-off.

[1bearcatf8f]

@l3attlel2oyal Well if they would some how put a single big jet engine in the MiG-19 mayby it would have been closer in performance to the 21.

[1bearcatf8f]

@l3attlel2oyal True but still it had alot of problems sence the wings were pretty small.But over all its still one of russias most common planes.

[aidibacalum]

the mig 21 is an ugly jet, but does the job

[alesserfate]

i'm not gonna lie, i've never seen any non-russian/non-soviet aircraft do this kinda shit, and it fucking blows away everything else i've seen at the airshows here in the west

[oxyetb1]

of the bitch be afraid?

[TomB455]

When i see these machine's fly, i know as long as they fly, there's hope..

thx 4 T awesome vid.

[SkullakaAce]

Nice fucking video there lad. I mean really nice.

[davidds0]

Whats so great about mig 21? it had many loses in the history..

[thadutchguy]

@davidds0 it had, but because it was cheap, mass production, and easy to handle, firepower in that time was great (for the money) it was a legend. Su37 is way better than the F35 JSF, which is a total failure. the more people are against the plan of a JSF the more money there will be spend on a to heavy aircraft, to low firepower, a easy target for the laser of the Su37 but now at the moment a moneyeating sun of a bitch!

[davidds0]

@thadutchguy how do you know F35 is a failure? are you even a pilot? im not saying on any plane a failure , only if it has many loses in history.

F35 is diffrent then Su 37 by many things, and F35 is also stealthy dont forget that, stealth make fighter much better, their chance in succesing a mission is greatly incressed.

[thadutchguy]

@davidds0 It is based on the news I read on the internet and news papers. there are for the hovering engine already 2 test engines made, so 2 different typs, No.1 failed, did not have enough power and was too loud, engine 2 has the right percentage of power, but is waaay to loud, louder than the F16 (based on a test the Dutch made) steatlh is good, but the F35 has less good armory, also the back of the plane is not stealth, and is deadly, Su37 locks on it, and you can say bye by to your F35.

[davidds0]

@thadutchguy The Su 37 have nothing spaciel in it, and not all the types of F35 are with hovering engines, besides non of these planes ever fought a real fight and untill then i suggest we wont put labels on them.

[davidds0]

@thadutchguy besides, who told you the bottum of the F35 isnt stealthy? it looks diffrent but i dident heard or read anywhere that it says that part isnt stealthy, he keeps his weapons inside him and if that part wasnt stealthy they wouldnt put the weapons inside cus it wont make any diffrence, and the Su 37 isnt stealthy at all and the F35 can lock on air planes without looking at them with the nose of the plane , but by looking at them with the pilots spaicel helmet maid by israel.

[thadutchguy]

@davidds0 I did not say that the bottom isn't stealth, I did say that the back of the plane, the "exhaust'' is not stealth. all very great about the helmet. but the whole JSF project takes too much money for to low performance of the plane, even though not all types of JSF are not hovering, they still have the same amount of sound volume which is to high. and you can't see a Su37 not as a threat because that plane did not prove hisself, but he probably will against the JSF.

[davidds0]

@thadutchguy i guess we will have to watch and see, but i dont see any interception between USA,UK,israel and other countries within the JSF program fighting a conflict against Russia

[thadutchguy]

@davidds0 me neither, but Russia is selling their weapons to everyone that is willing to pay for it, if im right China has the Su37, and at this moment china does not like USA that much.

[davidds0]

@thadutchguy The su 37 isnt yet in production and its only an experimental aircraft,

and russia only got 2 of those built so far, so we got a long time till that aircraft gets to a war, and i know china doesnt like US but not in the level of getting in a war with the US

[thadutchguy]

@davidds0 Not yet, if the heat in Korea is getting to high, US is sticking their nose in it, than china will fight with Mr. Kim;)

[g1i2a3n4i5]

the best from the best

[barcxanski87]

5:39 - 5:47 just amazing

[NazarovVv]

браво пич страшно видео

[raminkhanbalkhi]

i love it man it depends on two things 1 the professional pilot and highly experianced 2 the high power engine and very strong jet.

[c1cter]

Hey, why you give me negative mark you idiots,,,,

[seba19870803]

@c1cter naucz się ludzkiego języka

[c1cter]

@seba19870803 No speakim English? : D

[clbou812]

This is a cool demo! Loved it. Great example of maneuverability. Not however the kinds of things one wants to do in combat. In a dogfight, this kind of stuff will get you killed. Period. This is not how this pilot would fly in an engagement. Speed is life. Stalling one's plane takes away their ability to disengage if needed.

Thanks, kazahneshto

[opuon123]

рассия в пирет ну если F22 и Eurofighter так умеит дайте сылку глянуть

[Hann60]

VIVA Eurofighter

[vereshaga]

РОССИЯ РУЛИТ!!! РУССКИЕ ВСЕХ ПОРВУТ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lumpen12]

@vereshaga Хуйца в рота возьми дебил.

[vereshaga]

@Lumpen12 у тебя что то с головой не в порядке - ты болен. Если тебе нравится, когда у тебя парни отсасывают, то ты животное, уш хотя бы не озвучивай этого. Не по адресу ты обратился, извращенец.

Я для тебя, имбицил еще раз повторю: РУССКИЕ ВСЕХ ПОРВУТ!!!!

[c1cter]

No speakim English bellow,,, lOl

[c1cter]

Hey Russians, don't flatter yourselves, F22 and Eurofighter can do the same thing this air craft did or maybe better than this,,, I have done too many times myself in the simulator and play station,,, lol hahahahahhahh keep dreaming Raptor and Typhoon.

[valgloster]

Да пошёл ты на хуй, пидар!!!!

Какого хуя тогда боитесь нашего оружия?

[c1cter]

запираюt вы не даже прочитать мои замечания вы?

[valgloster]

Ты по-русски не понимаешь, просто электронным переводчиком пользуешься.

А родился вроде в Россие..... И любишь ты всех, и евреев, и американцев, и русских...

Двум богам не служат, уважаемый!

[c1cter]

What the Fuck man, can you speak English for the love of Olet Kaloogin?

[Alexei55555]

lets me see can do the sam , where ? simulation ;D

[comnenul]

the interest thing about this is that the f 22 ad eurofighter are first aircraft to do this but the first russian aircraft that did this it was the mig 29 aprox 20 yera ago .make the maths

[c1cter]

I know, I fly MIG 29...

[comnenul]

which air force?

[c1cter]

@comnenul Iran,,,

[Goodspittin]

You obviously have not seen the Mig-35. It out classes the F-15 in every category and has excellent radar systems giving it VERY long attack range.

[comnenul]

whitout thinking about the latest russian aircrafts

mig44

su 47

[ANimouz]

What kind of range? Range of weapons or ranged of operation? Cause latest russian planes are better at any class.

[viowave]

I am from the Netherlands that first - but when it comes to the dogfight the Su-27 and the skill, training of the pilot can out maneuver every plane in the world except another Su-27.

I think you shouldn't underestimate the russian combat-technology - it is very practical designed and again besides a good plane you also have a good quality of pilots needed. Carefully said the Isrealis just encountered a lower class of pilots.

[taboo84]

whats the name of the song?

[LazgomaN1]

crystal method - keep hope alive

[OpelGTC]

MiG-21 is a legend.

Su-37 is the master of sky.

Both have shocked NATO.

[JrGuacamoles]

@OpelGTC Shocked? no not really more like they crossed their arms leaned back on their chair and raised an eyebrow and smiled.thats it but not shocked you over exaggerated

[driftkingz109]

SU-37 is better but the MIG-21 is also cool

[RussianKondr]

sorry.. i phucked u...

[RussianKondr]

Why raptor use the ' stealh' ?

Evry radar can detect it... su-37 use the radar new generation..

[doop01]

Of course every radar can detect it dumb shit. If you're going to launch SAMs at birds and dragonflies, you might as well be thinking they're F22s.

[HansiIsMyGod]

Especially those dragonflies that fly at mach2. Those are nasty.

[cod4m14ownage]

You dumbass

[serolog2]

at 5.45 - crazy maneure

[ins0mnia1978]

called cobra... amazing!

[nakazatoGTR]

tools are but one part of battle.

it is verry hard to predict an outcome of battle basing your judgments on the abilities of vehicles alone.

there are things like tactics, morale, training.

[adityaga]

Breathtaking Display. Havent seen any western aircraft perform maneuvers like Sukhois.

Outstanding Fighter.

[Gl3n44]

the only and i mean only plane we got close to this is the F-16MATV and it wont enter production.

[nakazatoGTR]

Russian pilots are fond of showboating everything.

us pilots keep the max capabilities secret from public.

F-18 hornets are reported to be able to do cobra.

but wait, what does a low energy, low speed manuever like cobra do in a dogfight?

you dont have energy to maneuver, and you are easy prey.

plus long range missiles can see your sukhoi before you see who fired them.

[Gl3n44]

Then why are is the us trying to do that with its F-22 and these are only for dogfighting and until your in one you wont know how useful these are and its missiles go 245miles away compared to the F-22's 60 miles

[nakazatoGTR]

i cant understand your statement CLARIFY please:

whose missile go 245 miles?

if its russian, i dont think it is jam proof or can see a raptor's radar signaturre of a small coin.

check on history,

most dogfights between tight turning fighter VS not that tight turners, the more experienced guys in the not that tight turning fighters win.

its the man, pilot, tanker, ship/sub captain who makes the difference.

[Ph33NIXx]

yeah well in some way your right, the man is the most important, but if you gives a good man a bad tool, it wont work.

if you give the worlds best sword fighter a spear and send him to battle its more sure that he comes home dead then alive, not cos he wasnt a great fighter but cos i had the wrong tool... the same way with planes.

give a great pilot a great plane= Succes

give a great pilot a shitty plane= come home dead.

if you can see what i mean.

[mjufpn]

I once saw a MIg 21 flying over our school and it looked like it was doing a tight turn sort of like drifting in air! And a huge flame came out its ass!

[Gl3n44]

IT FARTED!!!

[AirShark95]

ROTFLMFAO bean buriitos!!!!!!!!!

[Gl3n44]

YO QUIERO TACO BELL!

[OpelGTC]

I'll say just this:

F-22 is very complicated,and that's why it won't last very much

[gidromufta]

f-22 is shit

[mjufpn]

f22 is a big flying computer not a interceptor!

[oxyetb1]

@gidromufta . agreed

[oxyetb1]

@gidromufta agreed

[1bearcatf8f]

@gidromufta Hahahah F-22 aint shit man it has alot to prove idiot

[1bearcatf8f]

@gidromufta yeah as if man

[fallforum]

you cannot think with one good, because they dont meet in batt

[iliketheairforce]

still the stealth capabilites will give the 22 better chance

[Gl3n44]

yea i have to agree BUT one hit on the 22 with a gun and its no longer stealth.

[nakazatoGTR]

it still will be stealth.

hit a raptor with a bullet, only increases radar reflection area by about 1/4th inch, depending on calibre.

but wait, 80% of raptor structure is not even steel/metal!!!

its mostly carbonfibre composites..

[Gl3n44]

no it wont not with a 30mm shell going in to it and maybe it'll rip the wing off just by how week it is

[fallforum]

f-22 is shit... f-22 similar to the su-37...

[iliketheairforce]

the F/A-22 is THEE most advanced fighter in the world and the f-22 is no where near similar i quote mikhail siminov (cheif designer of sukhoi)he challanged any american aircraft to a mock dogfight he said "any time any place!" F/a-22 vs. Su-37 victor=F/A-22

[4769888]

OK, you win. now you can go home with your toy.

[Ph33NIXx]

what if it was against the new su-47?

[nakazatoGTR]

Su-47 is demo plane.

no weapons, no radar, no guns.

[Ph33NIXx]

well i guess they still test the plane out.

it looks nice any way ;P

[Gl3n44]

it did but what if it was a real dogfight afterall this pilot flys mor of the Su-29 than this

[commandro]

the su-27 aerobatics bit looks like its been done on a flight sim

[Lightning1111]

Everything in this video is real. The aerobatics performed by the Su-37 are true due to the movement of the thrusts with the joystick inside the cockpit. This allows for improved manuverability (similar to the F-22's system)

[Gl3n44]

Does Anyone Know were I could find a S-37 For FS2004?

[4769888]

RUSSIAN POWER

[Ph33NIXx]

Amen! couldent find a better word my self

[4769888]

Stay home if you can't fight. let me and the brave one stay be at the front line.

[Ph33NIXx]

That is a nice vid... you really see the Su-27's nice skills in flying man ;P what is the name of this song?

[GeneralRomanov]

Nice vid !

[glacies3]

great video