Yeah ummm they cut the steel in small pieces so it is eaiser to transport, plus why were there plane shaped holes in the building, why did i see a plane fly into the side of the south tower, in fact why did thousands of people see the plany fly into the building. Just sayin
@Badingolfer12 Yeh, why was there a plane shaped hole in wtc1? I guess your research hasn't gone far enough to have looked at the wtc2 hole which was a comma-shaped hole; perhaps a flying comma did that, huh?
My feature video shows that the structural steel around the comma-shaped hole was cut, not by a flying comma, or more absurdly, an eighth of an inch thick aluminum fuselage.
You did not see any plane fly into any building on 911.
@CNN911Fakes How do they fake flying a plane into a building, and from my other question what about the people who were actually there and saw the plane?
"pretty much every one in New York, except the reporters on the scene at the base of the world trade center at 9:03am 9/11. Several of them argued with their studio hosts about the fact they did not see any planes."
But, of course, this video is about the cut steel. If you wish to discuss planes, please do that on a plain video!
"pretty much every one in New York, except the reporters on the scene at the base of the world trade center at 9:03am 9/11. Several of them argued with their studio hosts about the fact they did not see any planes."
Also, no yellow cab drivers. For some inexplicable reason, they avoided the wtc on the morning of 911. In my catalogue of thousands of images and videos, I have only one with a taxicab.
@Badingolfer12 Man haven't you been told yet? The millions of people who saw those planes hit either at the seen all from all over the world on TV, work for the government.............ssh - don't tell anyone.
you've done a lot of good work. Thank you. It would be much better if you spent MORE time on each image, also I'm interested in examining some of theses images, can you provide links, or email them to me?
2.35 is not thermite marks. this is a common sight in metal frame buildings after structural collapse due to fire load. the thermite residue that was found was from the construction of the building.
@CNN911Fakes thermite is used in construction... inspect some old buildings in NYC, you will see the residue. if the fire gets hot enough, witch it did, the steel begins to loses strength, as the temp increases the grater chance the building will collapse. the fire fighters has no way to fight that fire, water makes it worse, they did not have the required amount of AFFF, and why would they? I have faught fires many times and seen things that most people think could not happen.
@CNN911Fakes 1. you didnt try to say they used explosives but you did.
2.no other steel structure has been put through the test of jet fuel which burns at 2000 degrees
3.watch any video and look at every picture you will see a fire.
4.its pretty much impossible to fight a fire that is more than 1000 feet in the air.the heat from the fires would cause a massive updraft making it nearly impossible for a helicopter to maneuver in those conditions
take some IRTB classes..... learn about what happened and why. the cut beams and bent beams that were shown by rescuers was dun to find people and bodies/parts. this is not a cover-up.... I spent weeks down there digging and cutting up things.... I was never told to cover-up anything. as far as things falling horizontally go on the top of a 5 story building and throw something off... see where it goes its not straight down... now think of 180 stories.
@mab76ffd Sorry to have missed this last message. I know exactly what happened and why - that is why I have uploaded over 220 videos showing TV fakery. The columns (weren't many beams in the wtc construction) were cut before they hit the ground, making the story of workers cutting them a little extreme, don't you think?
Weeks, eh? How many bodies or body parts did you encounter? Did you find the silt over on west street slippery?
180 stories? I guess now that you have spoken, it's 181.
@CNN911Fakes I saw alot of bodies, and or parts..... for several days after the collapse. so think what you want I dont really care...... you tell the families of the 343 firefighters that gave their lives that it was all planed. then actually prove it. I have not seen anything that actually proves anything. find someone anyone that was there who was told to cover anything up..... the towers were not constructed to deal with that much fire or temperatures.
@mab76ffd To whom did you report the mishanding of body and body parts, when, where and where is the record?
Find an official image that shows a body or body part in stti at the site before being taken away (there are none).
Why don't you ask the firefighters of engine/ladder 10 why they remain quiet, why did they let Bush walk on a US flag in front of them on their Greenwich sidewalk in front of theri firehouse?
This video proves the steel was cut before it left the towers.
@CNN911Fakes I read about that, I also saw a NYC Local News Report a few months after 9/11 that had 90 West in it. The apartments facing Ground Zero were either on fire or completly gutted by the raining debris. So, its nothing to "imagine" about.
I am surprised you use the word "raining" as rain doesn't fall horizontally. Rain does not "gut" an object. Rain does not throw emergency vehicles over hotels onto west street from where they were parked near wtc2 on liberty street.
Not once (that I have seen so far) did a TV talking head mention that 90 west (140 Cedar) was on fire. The FEMA images show it horizontally scorched, not burned.
I don't think any one here has a degree in engineering or physics. So bullshit evidence. Really a cutter charge? Noticed on the column that molten steel is still attached, cutter charges don't leave molten steel at all, the fact that molten steel is attached to the top of the column actually proves there was no explosive rather a mix of jet fuel and molten aluminum, which when jet fuel and molten aluminum are together in a confined space they form a super heated gas that burns through anything!
@nodmessenger Jet A-1 was the fuel being used in the aircraft, when the aluminum aircraft melted ( which only would of took about 10 to 20 minutes it mixed with the ignited jet fuel creating a type of Aluminium borohydride fuel, which is a type of rocket fuel, so lets say we have a rocket inside WTC tower, then it is only a matter of minutes until the the burning columns (with hundreds of tons of pressure on top of them) give out and fail...
This "video" is lots of stills that unfortunately prove nothing whatsoever until you get to 2.37 in the erm slideshow. The column directly behind the fireman centre has almost irrefutably been sliced with a cutter charge. Its v easy to look these up and to see how they are placed on steel columns for demolishing buildings (but basically the exact angle the column in the photo is cut at. Even if the fire had been hot enough why would it have "cut" through the column that way. Rest is just photos!
Another video that shows nothing. Actually it does, even more that it wasn't a controlled demo, debris was everywhere. You are seeing things in these images that don't really exist. And what's sad is there are people believing this. That would be a feet to be cutting metal in a building w/o anyone noticing. They must have silent saws. Its the gov't and all and they have that technology. Where you even in New York when this happen? Or getting your evidence from only videos on youtube.
I would think its the fact you're so dismissive that makes it difficult. Everyone's an idiot or fucking stupid simply because they share a diff opinion other than your own. Maybe if you didn't act like a complete fing douche bag people might be willing to talk with you, but seeing how you act is there really much point? You're so on the offensive that you invalidate peoples opinions before you even hear them. Then immediately resort to insulting them without offering any point of your own.
@job1866 Bin Laden is as real an identity as Mickey mouse .. Can you show me the birth record for Mickey or name his grandfather ? Its all fake made up bullshit and the only problem with your theory where they get away with it is the knowledge is seeping out of the veins of the U.S government . The 'spam' comment under your comment tells the whole reason for war, technology,medical care ect the list goes on and leaves very little.. They want money money money and fuck the societies all of them.
In February of 2002 Silverstein Properties won $861 million from Industrial Risk Insurers to rebuild on the site of WTC 7. Silverstein Properties' estimated investment in WTC 7 was $386 million. This building's collapse alone resulted in a profit of about $500 million.
Man what pottymouths some of the commenters are. Using that kind of gutter talk surely makes one think they are real tough peope. Very impressive. Geesh
If you want to be a totally insulting shithead i can be too> you are the worlds dick for not researching and utter cock and a shithead peice of crap. you spout crap off and beleive it like your mother did when she was anally fucked by a dim witted goat to produce you.
You are pure anal after all.
You love grating your cheesy cock on a cheesegrater as it gives you a thrill being the pervert you are.
Youre fat slob no brains moron who sits around all day looking at you tube.
@zenoist2 I can only assume that you are speaking to me you miserable, raging cockbag. If you are, here's a fucking tip. Try hitting the "Reply" button next to my comment. That sort of increases the likelihood of my actually seeing your stupidity. You are such a fucking moron that you even fail and YouTube. And be sure to check for my other comment I just posted wherein I utterly destroyed your "class A" bullshit.
Each and every demolition company contacted reinforced that it would have taken months, along with hundreds of men, the stripping of the columns, and the removal of ceiling and wall panels, to plant the explosives to bring down a building that size, as well as miles and miles of exposed wiring and markings. None of those things were found, none were placed, and your video honestly proves nothing. Denial is nasty, and you are in the middle of it. 9/11 was real, just face facts and be happy.
This is such bullshit. In order for any explosives the be used you would need teams of demolitions experts working on the towers for months at a time. Sheet rock would have to be exposed and hundreds of miles of electrical wires would have to be run to the explosives. I am so sick of these bullshit conspiracy theories running around which are based on a complete lack of knowledge. You're like creationists who say "evolution is just a theory" You're all looney.
a conspiracy of this magnitude would require thousands of people and years of planning to execute Seeing that Bush was president for less than 9 months prior to 9/11 you are stating that Bill Clinton is responsible and that he and Bush killed all those responsible for setting it up because NO-ONE has ever come forward with credible proof that it was an inside job so they must be dead (Dead Men tell no Tales). But the real story is easier to believe. you are nothing but an idiot with mommy issues
its the asboestos fibres int he walls that caused the dust, and if steel hits the ground at about 80-100 miles an hour it aint staying straight, all these conspiracies have a explination that some too dumb people dont think of
Amazing how you don't see one block of concrete. It's all dust. What the hell turned the concrete into dust? So obviously it wasn't a pancake. Or else you'll have slabs of concrete on top of each other.
uhm lol... all the people that say this shit is a conspiracy are fucking stupid idiotic peaces of shit.. someone explain to me at :29 ...... How the fuck does this picture have proof of a bomb. is the cocacola truck a bomb? didnt think so.. the building on the ground must be the bomb.. right?
@panteraowns98 and all the people saying there were secondary explosions are part of a mass conspiracy to lie right?
You debunkers are a total joke.
On one hand you dismiss any evidence to cover up for very good reasons that official evidence has been altered but on the other hand you are perfectly happy to go along with thousands of police, firemen and civilian eyewitnesses are lying and part of a mass conspiracy to lie when they have no good reason to do so. Get real you dickheads.
the physics of it is.....they are the only 2 major structual buildings that have ever collapsed that way. i emphasise major because there was a 3rd smaller buidling that was near the twin towers that collapsed in the same way..there are no records that show buildings of that design can implode on each other so thats a real 1st for conspiricists..thats the physics of it
You mention that "they are the only 2 major structural buildings that have ever collapsed that way", what you fail to mention is that they were also the only 2 bldgs with that design and construction materials in the world, so of course they could not have fallen the same way as any other bldgs have.
Bollocks. That is garbage and you know it. You guys look for something to keep your tiny brains in a frenzie because you haven't got a fucking clue how else to pass 24 hours in a day. Verdict----- the abduls hit 2 towers using 2 planes, the towers did not withstand the impact.-------Result-------Total structure failure due to impact. Amen.........R-I-P all innocent victims.
Your Video's r like the font u use 2 write on them. Very Disney Land! Reason dust trails steel is because it's attached 2 concrete. Your talking out yr ass bout bending steel. One other thing I always see is so called explosions happening whilst the building is collapsing. Well this happens due 2 amount of air in building been forced down as the buiding is collapsing. The air pressure is so great that it exits out of the weakest points... example... The windows....! You are a full of shit...
so i suppose your " air " caused the pools of molten metal.. and blew up building 7... your an idiot... wake up and realise it was done for the sole purpose of making trillions of dollars.. just like the start of every war the united states has been in... research it yourself.. and after you do then you can tell me im full of shit... but guess what you wont be able to because im right... fact!\
Pearl Harbor too right..for an excuse to go to war..yeah sure..he was a liberal democrat...this was a historic heinous crime..mass murder committed by despicable people..if they plotted to use civil aircraft as missles,they couldve set explosives just as easy with little evidence...
what i want to tell is : A steal beam leads off the heat very well. Tt needs veeery much energy to heat up a peace of steal, special thos monsters that where used in the WTC. NO fire feed by office material and jetfuel can do this. Thats why steal industry needs special ovens to melt steal.
If this is not need, well, we all can start in melting steal at home in our BBQ-grill.....
I do blacksmiting. A forge fire CAN melt steel and many other material. I burned so much different materials and wonder what kind of smoke it can make. once i try to heat up a pice of railroad-beam about 14 inch long. It took me about 2.5 h and i only reach a mild red heat on about 3 inch leangth, but i need 25 pounds of coal for it.....
ok then whats the hottest part of the fire either wood or coal with little or no flames?when you poke it you reveal the inner core which is red/white hot!!!!!!
snedie is the one who is retarded here! he keeps talking about steel melting and at what temp...these are true in a controlled perfect environment..that day was far from perfect...the buildings were built with the top floor supported by the one below and so on..when the planes hit,they took out numerous whole floors and with the extreme heat it weakens the ones above..you don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand why the structure was compromised!!
Great and superbly accurate nickname my inebriated paddy friend. Shock and awe was the policy...planes/missiles to grab attention...communications blackout...control the media...3 small thermonuclear devices and lots of shaped charges. Lots of wailing and knashing of teeth.... the arabs are the patsies... get rid of the evidence... get the insurance to start rebuilding. Top of the mornin' to youse.
And for the fucking morons that say the jet fuel fatigued or weakened the steel...You are also morons. Steel melts at around 1300C (2500F). Jet fuel (Jet A) burns at 287c (549F). Now does anybody see where I am going here...because if you don't you are seriously fucking retarded.
so with the towers active 24/7 would no one question an army of demo experts cutting and planting explosives that nobody has cum forward to say"hey wots all that noise were trying to fucking work here!" have u seen vids on the wiring that goes on! why do you keep goin on bout this crap and bout time you set outside ur front door and relize there ara other human beings out here that HAVE A BRAIN THAT FUNCTIONS get real!
So true, there are no witnesses to the planting of explosives because it never happened. People find it hard to believe that the buildings collapsed because of weakened steel could not support the weight of the upper floors. As they fell, the lower floors could not support the ever increasing weight of the floors as they pancaked on each other.
what about the weekend before when internet cables had to be upgraded and everyone had to leave the building? look it up and tell me if it isnt a coincidence.
What the heck are you talking about. All scientist around the world (for years) agree it was not a Pancake collapse. And just so you know there is now "increasing weight". Whatever the weight was before the collapse was the same after the collapse. Try to remember "ALL" building are over designed according to NYC codes and specifications.
There are videos of people complaining about noise bangs and dust from the vents. There were also a few complete shut down's of the building as they continued to work without cameras or security in place. Use your BRAIN AND GET ALL FACTS B4 YOU TALK IN PUBLIC.
yeah oh soz your right, by the way just look up the timescales involved in preparing something that is 70% smaller than the WTC,JUST LET THESE PEOPLE RIP
No, the jet fuel was unable too burn simply becuase there was not enough oxygen. Put some petrol into a glass bottle, place the bottle into a paint can. Now light a fire cracker with a decent sized fuze, place into the paint can and put the lid on. Notice how there is no fire ball????
Hardly. In fact, not at all close. Quite the opposite in reality.
The planes punched huge holes, across several floors & blew out many more windows in other areas. Not only was there plenty of oxygen to support fire, there was ample wind to act as a giant bellows stoking the shit out of the fire.
Combine the undoubtedly VERY hot fire + damaged insulation on the beams + numerous beams the collision destroyed = failure.
I do not proclaim to by a physicist in any way, and I do not know the exact chemical formula for the burning process of jet fuel....But there is a very precise amount of oxygen needed for every molecule of fuel to chemically change (Burn). Now, 20k pounds of jet fuel requires a lot of fucking oxygen....and there is no way it could have all ignited instantly or even burnt entirely within a few hours given the rate that oxygen was entering the building and carbon monoxide and dioxide was leaving.
So shut the fuck up, you dense stupid mother fucking nobody and get some god damn facts about what actually happened that day, how it happened and why things happened the way they did.
"So shut the fuck up, you dense stupid mother fucking.. god damn.. fucking morons.. also morons.. seriously fucking retarded"
Typical. No position to defend so you resort to profanity. Way to go! Really bolsters the lack of credibility in your comments.. kinda throws a light on your general lack of creativity and utter ineptness for the rational & intelligent among us to see.. and laugh at.
your facts are correct snedie, but this is the thing no-one wants to believe that their own government is responsible for ALL the tradgedy, and the war in iraq with thousands dead,(civillians english soldiers american soldiers) and good ole bush just sittin back giving the orders, he dont give a fuck cuz hes not out there fighting the REAL fight, im sure his choices would be different if he was.(put him on the frontline!! hes happily killing others and would do it to his own for his greed!!
yeah your right with that but this is a billion times in size with a billion more cubic area of oxygen, air is been inducted into the building cos of the fire ,think about it !!!!!!! and i work in the fire training industry in the uk
If oxygen (Air) was been drawn into the building in the quantities needed to sustain the burning of fuel withing a carbon dense atmosphere, then there would have been a raging inferno.
For example, lets say the fireball that erupted as the plane struck the tower is indeed jet fuel. Looking at this, we can see that this fuel burns very vigourosly and brightly.
Now, if we go to say 10 minutes after the crash we can't see any large fires within the building, but rather black smoke.....
Now, as a person who knows all about fires, you should know that thick black smoke indicates that a fire is lacking sufficient oxygen to maintain a complete combustion cycle, and a sufficiently oxygenated fire burns with grey/white smoke.
There is of course exceptions to this rule, say like rubber which burns with a black smoke anyway.
no not at all, it depends on what has been ignited,the black smoke is the results of the plastic/oils/office fittings etc no matter how hot the fire there will still be the resulting BLACK smoke with this type of fuelling.
Oh right my mistake, I was under the impression that the fire was been fueled by aviation fuel and that almost all of the internal structures where either vapourised in the explosion or sent hurtling out of the building in the impact.
Another point, the ammount of black smoke been produced cannot be atributed to said office materials alone.
Another point, there is no fire to be seen through the very dense smoke, which is a sign of oxygen deprivation.
yeh the initial fire was fuelled by avgas this then ignited all, your right that the initial impact lasted 20 30s but the fuel is the spontanious combustables above and below the floors,but believe me just cos you cant see fire on the outside believe me ,fire would be workin its way in every orrifice that building had
your videos are sooo fuckin boring and mean absulutely fuckall i beleive 9/11 inside job but all you do is jump on the bandwagon with pointless facts and completely meaningless videos with no substance whatsovever in fact i dont even know why i,m writing this. FUCK OFF
That's not dust, that's fly ash. Concrete dust is grey, only ash from an intense fire looks like the WTC 'dust'.
When you see a black smoke fire (black smoke means there is still fuel in the air column) Turn to a white smoke fire, as it did at the WTC, that means the fire is at extreme temperatures.
It also means the fire has established it's own fire environment, a "fire storm", where the rising hot air causes a vacuum sucking in cool air, and it causes forge like conditions.
at 2:00 u can see plainly the beam the 4 men are standing on has the classic slice of thermite demolitionit is a clean diagonal cut thru the metal beam
When you present evidence in this fashion it deminishes the legitimate efforts of legitimate people who present themselves to the world, putting themselves at risk, in an attempt to bring out the truth.
HAAAAHAHAHAHAHA it takes a special kind of moterf$cker saying stupid and non scientific BULLSHIT like that.............. i hope these people die slowly...................
cause they are pissig all over the people who died here......... just disgusting kind of people......
This was just another peice of the huge puzzle that the NWO's putting together for total world domination. This is your government at work- when will Americans wake up? God Bless all those that lost their lives that day for nothing more than the quest for greed and power
@CNN911Fakes -Hate your guts you damn scum. Your the FAKE. Well you can count me as a NYr who was there, one & two blocks away, through the whole thing. I saw several jumpers, people falling along side the bldgs. Tons of office papers flying out of the gaping hole. Saw and photographed the jet eng on CHURCH ST! not West St. There were NO explosions EVER! just the sound of the bldgs cracking, snapping, and rumbling as they came down, a sound I'll never forget. You weren't there, I was. Bastard!
Thermite and/or Thermate are thought to have generated the wedged cuts, as done in controlled demolition, however salvage crews may have added in order to control the direction of fall of some debris demolition requirements during cleanup process.
Interesting that the evidence was quickly shipped away to secured location and sold for scrap. Whatever happened to evidence tampering laws???
Also, there is the issue of temperatures required to soften, melt steel. The temperature of the flame must be focused on the same spot for a given space of time for steel to achieve malleability. Think about this: Gravity would have pulled a lot of that fuel to the base ot the towers but there were no fires throughout the twrs. Just focused on floors where the planes hit.
If anything, I would have suspected the tops (above impact) falling off instead of pancake collapse. That didn't happen.
i wonder if we take all the commie bastards together..dump some jet fuel on them, and then light it...just wonder if they would reach 600 degrees or if crap burns at a higher temperature
exactly snedie!!! it was thermite that melted the steel, thats why there was a very small if any remainders of the steel used to make the floors, and the absolute tons of concrete used to make this building all blown to literally DUST normal fires dont cause this amount of catastrophic damage, but explosives do!!
I don't know if your theory can brainwash non-New Yorkers because they happen to be there and watching the whole thing, we just happen to be one of these people.
Yes, an airplane crashed into the tower, people jumped out to end their lives, buildings collapsed, fire trucks and ambulances came and what do you expect?
You got proof people jumped? Talk about dishonoring the victims!
You mention my "theory." I have watched this video numerous times and, you know, it presents proof that another theory is wrong and does not present any theory at all.
Tell us what theory this video presents that is wrong.
ps, any NYr that was reasonbly close to wtc felt and heard the explosions and saw the squibs. Ask amy goodman.
@CNN911Fakes - Well you can count me as a NYr who was there, one & two blocks away, through the whole thing. I saw several jumpers, people falling along side the bldgs. Tons of office papers flying out of the gaping hole. Saw and photographed the jet eng on CHURCH ST! not West St. There were NO explosions EVER! just the sound of the blds cracking, snapping, and rumbling as they came down, a sound I'll never forget. You weren't there, I was. Your just a hate America NUT. You have my sympathy.
@CNN911Fakes Uh, I was there, saw the buildings fall and what I saw and heard would typically be explained as explosions by the average person. There were, however, no secondary bombs or anything of that nature. A lot of the "explosions" we heard was actually either gas lines erupting or compressed air escaping as the building collapsed. Just because you distrust the govt please do not co-opt this terrible event to further your political agenda of stupidity.
@zenoist2 There were no gas lines in the WTC? Then what powered the executive kitchens and all the restaurants? I love it when clueless fuckstick morons like yourself tell me to go examine some facts when you wouldn't know a fact if it fell out of the sky and gave you a lap dance and a happy ending. No gas lines in the WTC. Fucking awesome!
@zenoist2 I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about and obviously neither do you. Class A, B or C has NOTHING to do with gas lines. In fact, there is no definitive formula for classifying a building. Simply put there are no "Class A" building codes and if you think there are then you are the stupidest fucking moron in the world. In fact, I think you would be hard pressed to find ANY building code that forbade gas lines in high rise buildings. You are the dumbest of the dumb. congrats.
@captwasabi if you think building codes about skyscrapers dont take into account gas lines in skyscrapers then by all means just insult me and ignore all proven fact and go ahead.
Look up CLASS A buildings on the internet and tell me where are the gas lines?
The fact you just insult all and sundry that disagrees with you and points out very obvious proven facts is enough to know you are a debunker.
Direct youre hatred to researching class a buildings and gas lines instead
@zenoist2 Yes! I am a debunker! I debunk your bullshit! I've looked up building codes and there simply are no "Class A" building codes in NYC. Building Code A covers houses you stupid fuck. Building Code O covers OFFICES!!!. The WTC was an O4 building code which is Office building, tower type. As for the gas lines in the WTC, they were fully compliant with FDNY and building guidelines. Now, either you cite proof that there were no gas lines in the WTC or just shut the fuck up.
@captwasabi There is absolutely no debunking all the coincidences that happened that day. If you looked subjectively just at the testimonies and info thats been uncovered since, even the biggest critic has got to be damn thats a bit shady. Everyone admits governments are corrupt, its just a difference between perception and reality. There is just no excuse to be that ignorant anymore, so either you're within the system or truly ignorant, in which case way to take to the programming.
@Hashmonkey272 There is plenty of debunking of the bullshit conspiracy theory claims. Are you seriously stupid enough to think that in the days of Wikileaks a secret of this magnitude can be kept? Really? We get our dirty laundry aired about mistakely killing some reporters but this is kept secret? Please tell me you're not reallt that fucking stupid? There is no programming, there is no sinister plot. There is just idiots like you who believe faulty science and bullshit claims.
@captwasabi Thank god for wikileaks huh, as we all know there was never any government corruption that ever came to light before it, and obviously since if it doesn't expose it, it must truly not exist. All i said was look at the coincidences that happened that day, yet somehow you either ignored that or completely missed it and i'm the one who's stupid ? Work on your reading comprehension.
@Hashmonkey272 You did not say "look at the coincidences". What you said was "There is absolutely no debunking all the coincidences that happened that day". The obvious implcation here is that there were too many "coincidences" and that it all had to be planned. This implication is further compunded by your statement that even the most skeptical would think it was a "bit shady" which again implies a govt conspiracy. so please, either debate honestly or do not debate at all.
@captwasabi How am i not being honest? You're the one assuming shit outta thin air, In no way does saying coincidences interpret into conspiracies. You're making that jump, in any other scenario you can say there is obviously more evidence but when it involves the government its a ct. Why is that ? Obviously you know more than the 911 commission did so what do you know that makes everyone else *fucking stupid* ? And seriously you critique me on my debate etiquette ? Really?
@Hashmonkey272 See, this is why it's so difficult talking with you conspiracy theory idiots. If I believe the govt side of the story I'm a good recipient of their programming, you refer to the entire event as "shady" and make all other sort of comments alluding to there being some sort of cover up but when put to the task it's "oh no, I didn't actually say that." There was no govt involvement, there was no conspiracy. End of fucking story.
@zenoist2 So out of curiousity, hve you pulled your head out of your ass and done some research into what the building codes are for NYC and how there are no codes preventing gas lines in high rise buildings? I figured I would give you a month before the fucking lightbulb came on and you realized that high-rise apartment buildings have gas lines in them you stupid fuck.
@CNN911Fakes Iloved three blocks away from WTC and there were no bombs asshat. Yes, there were explosion like sounds but in a high-rise building fill of gas lines and compressed air lines that was collapsing one sort of expects that. As for people jumping, I fucking saw the bodies falling you stupid cunt.
And yes, talk about dishonoring the victims. That's what you do every day with your bullshit attempt to turn heir tragedy into your own personal anti-govt crusade you vile piece of shit.
Thank you, its nice to have someone that was there show more proof these people are nuts. They are doing such disrespect to all the victims and their families. They are insisting that all of you guys that watched it happen really didn't. They have the worst arguments ever. I watched many of this person's video post and they prove nothing, usually it shoes the direct opposite of what they are trying to prove. My heart goes out to all there that day and the victims & families.
So you're showing pictures of explosions and debris, wow.
the steel frame of the buildings heated up (due to the inferno within the building) to the point where it could no longer withstand it's own weight and so it collapsed.
Seriously, I'm drunk and I can even show the flaws in your logic.
This video proves that steel was cut prior to arriving at ground zero, ground level. You comment doesn't address that at all.
Regarding an "inferno," perhaps you can get us all some visual evidence supporting that contention. Cause, you know, there isn't any and there are plenty of images showing people standing in the windows of the twins, not burning.
Did you see the guy on 98 wtc1 licking the ice cream cone? CNN around 10:00am.
How is this proof of steel being "cut"? It's just a slideshow of crumpled debris.
Actually, never mind, if there's two things life has taught me, one is to wash my hands after going to the toilet, the other is to never argue with a conspiracy theorist. They'll drag you down to their level of debate and beat you with experience. :P
It's just so simple isn't it? On with your lives everyone! The government has figured it all out. Don't worry, they didn't make a profit off of the death of 3000 Americans. Don't worry! It was just "the inferno" that caused the buildings to collapse. Go back to shopping and caring only about yourself. Don't worry about 9/11. We have it all figured out.
LoL Your Ridiculous Man, Another Dumb Conspiracy Theorist Who Doesnt Research Enough, Go Ahead And Delete My Comment, Your The Faker Here No CNN, How Could They Fake A Plane Flying Into A Building ? Gee Some People Now Days Are So Smart, I Bet You Also Graduated From Harvard w/ High Honors Huh ? LoL Douche
Yes But What Terry Manning Is Saying Is That They Are Panels, So It Will Look Like They Are Cut Because They Were Cut Before The WTC Towers Were Made Because Thats How The Exterior Of The Building Was Made w/ Big Steel Panels Bolted Together ? Do You Seriously Think There Are Just 4 Huge Pieces OF Steel Forming The 4 Sides Of The Towers ? There Are Thousands Of Huge Panels On Each Tower So When Each Panel Is Alone It Looks Like It Has Been Cut, And How Could There Not Be A Plane ?
Ive seen the cut steel as well online but people(debunkers) tell me it was done by the salvage crews. Is there any way of finding out what time those pics were taken? Or has any salvage crew claimed those cuts? Thanks
No 911 images have pedigree. Those photographers that used 35 mm lost the negatives. Digital, lost the original copy.
Fact is, the pieces stuck in west street, church street, bankers trust and the American Express tower could not have been cut by workers before the images were captured.
@onesliceshort i doubt it was cut by salvage crews because some shit like this happens and the first thing on peoples minds are to come in and cut stuff up i mean come on.And look at this TWO faild bombins from december 25 and may 2. These people can pull off something like this but they cant set off a bomb right? It just dosent add up.
@onesliceshort In this case, the steel columns would have been visible after the collapse. But only two or three of the 47 columns were standing. Its impossible for a building to collapse with 2m/s squared. Thats enough of evidence that the buildings didn't collapse without being cut before.
All of your images pre the one minute mark show NO marks of being cut.
You show the columns (or the candlestick as the recovery crews called it) at the one minute mark, but ALL of those cuts came AFTER the collapse (it is a documented fact). The same area is shown at 111 before the iron workers were cutting the areas. Your picture at 227 came AFTER the collapse. Firefighters were still on the scene up through november.
you show 8 minutes of still photos, and NOT ONE shows explosives
you obviously weren't even old enough to remember what happened little boy...fuck off with ya fairytale bullshit
TheMrwildboar 2 weeks ago
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firts responders where not invited to the ceremony some said that the real reason is that they are questioning what happened that day...
Is ok to ask or not?
just asking
shugar5263 4 months ago
Yeah ummm they cut the steel in small pieces so it is eaiser to transport, plus why were there plane shaped holes in the building, why did i see a plane fly into the side of the south tower, in fact why did thousands of people see the plany fly into the building. Just sayin
Badingolfer12 4 months ago
@Badingolfer12 Yeh, why was there a plane shaped hole in wtc1? I guess your research hasn't gone far enough to have looked at the wtc2 hole which was a comma-shaped hole; perhaps a flying comma did that, huh?
My feature video shows that the structural steel around the comma-shaped hole was cut, not by a flying comma, or more absurdly, an eighth of an inch thick aluminum fuselage.
You did not see any plane fly into any building on 911.
Yeh, just sayin'
One doesn't need to fake real.
CNN911Fakes 4 months ago
@CNN911Fakes How do they fake flying a plane into a building, and from my other question what about the people who were actually there and saw the plane?
Badingolfer12 4 months ago
@Badingolfer12
Who saw the plains?
MegaCaracolillo 3 months ago
@MegaCaracolillo Pretty much every one in new york, and its planes. Learn how to spell next time
Badingolfer12 3 months ago
@Badingolfer12 Oh, you joker!
You meant to say
"pretty much every one in New York, except the reporters on the scene at the base of the world trade center at 9:03am 9/11. Several of them argued with their studio hosts about the fact they did not see any planes."
But, of course, this video is about the cut steel. If you wish to discuss planes, please do that on a plain video!
CNN911Fakes 3 months ago
@MegaCaracolillo @Badingolfer12 meant to say
"pretty much every one in New York, except the reporters on the scene at the base of the world trade center at 9:03am 9/11. Several of them argued with their studio hosts about the fact they did not see any planes."
Also, no yellow cab drivers. For some inexplicable reason, they avoided the wtc on the morning of 911. In my catalogue of thousands of images and videos, I have only one with a taxicab.
Oh, the plot is so thick.
CNN911Fakes 3 months ago
@Badingolfer12 Man haven't you been told yet? The millions of people who saw those planes hit either at the seen all from all over the world on TV, work for the government.............ssh - don't tell anyone.
moreemafia 4 months ago
@moreemafia Just leave America, you dont deserve our freedom if you dont like our government ingnorant bastard
Badingolfer12 4 months ago
@Badingolfer12 I don't live there dickhead, and I'm glad I don't because sarcasm doesn't seem to fit in..........
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alwaystheway 4 months ago
you've done a lot of good work. Thank you. It would be much better if you spent MORE time on each image, also I'm interested in examining some of theses images, can you provide links, or email them to me?
kenman 6 months ago
@kenman Thanks for your comment.
I often give the reference in the video and or the video description. On the older videos, most of those are no longer working.
Do the best you can, sorry.
CNN911Fakes 6 months ago
2.35 is not thermite marks. this is a common sight in metal frame buildings after structural collapse due to fire load. the thermite residue that was found was from the construction of the building.
mab76ffd 6 months ago
@mab76ffd Thanks for visiting and commenting.
This video makes no assertion regarding themite, perhpas you should find one that does.
Your phrasing makes it sound like the collapse of steel fram buildings from fire load is an everyday occurence. It is not.
Incidentally, thermite is not used in construction.
Thanks for avoiding vulgarity.
CNN911Fakes 6 months ago
@CNN911Fakes thermite is used in construction... inspect some old buildings in NYC, you will see the residue. if the fire gets hot enough, witch it did, the steel begins to loses strength, as the temp increases the grater chance the building will collapse. the fire fighters has no way to fight that fire, water makes it worse, they did not have the required amount of AFFF, and why would they? I have faught fires many times and seen things that most people think could not happen.
mab76ffd 6 months ago
@mab76ffd Thanks for another comment.
1. I have never tried to say what explosives were used in the demolition.
2. Not part of this video and I won't discuss the fact that no other steel structure has ever collapsed from fire; it can't get "hot enough"
3. There was no fire of note; the official record has a victim standing in the wtc1 hole from 8:47 until the collapse - unburned.
4. There is no evidence that any 911 fire was fought at all.
CNN911Fakes 6 months ago
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@CNN911Fakes 1. you didnt try to say they used explosives but you did.
2.no other steel structure has been put through the test of jet fuel which burns at 2000 degrees
3.watch any video and look at every picture you will see a fire.
4.its pretty much impossible to fight a fire that is more than 1000 feet in the air.the heat from the fires would cause a massive updraft making it nearly impossible for a helicopter to maneuver in those conditions
RussiansxRxBeasts 4 months ago
take some IRTB classes..... learn about what happened and why. the cut beams and bent beams that were shown by rescuers was dun to find people and bodies/parts. this is not a cover-up.... I spent weeks down there digging and cutting up things.... I was never told to cover-up anything. as far as things falling horizontally go on the top of a 5 story building and throw something off... see where it goes its not straight down... now think of 180 stories.
mab76ffd 6 months ago
@mab76ffd Sorry to have missed this last message. I know exactly what happened and why - that is why I have uploaded over 220 videos showing TV fakery. The columns (weren't many beams in the wtc construction) were cut before they hit the ground, making the story of workers cutting them a little extreme, don't you think?
Weeks, eh? How many bodies or body parts did you encounter? Did you find the silt over on west street slippery?
180 stories? I guess now that you have spoken, it's 181.
CNN911Fakes 6 months ago
@CNN911Fakes I saw alot of bodies, and or parts..... for several days after the collapse. so think what you want I dont really care...... you tell the families of the 343 firefighters that gave their lives that it was all planed. then actually prove it. I have not seen anything that actually proves anything. find someone anyone that was there who was told to cover anything up..... the towers were not constructed to deal with that much fire or temperatures.
mab76ffd 6 months ago
@mab76ffd To whom did you report the mishanding of body and body parts, when, where and where is the record?
Find an official image that shows a body or body part in stti at the site before being taken away (there are none).
Why don't you ask the firefighters of engine/ladder 10 why they remain quiet, why did they let Bush walk on a US flag in front of them on their Greenwich sidewalk in front of theri firehouse?
This video proves the steel was cut before it left the towers.
CNN911Fakes 6 months ago
I feel bad for whoever was in that building to the left!
AccessDenied55 6 months ago
@AccessDenied55 Thanks for your comment.
Imagine...
There was an elevator in 90 west (140 Cedar) in which 2 people (unnamed) were burned alive, some 800 feet away.
Anyone watching what was going on from a neighboring building is probably dead (look at the blown in windows). This also has been covered up.
CNN911Fakes 6 months ago
@CNN911Fakes I read about that, I also saw a NYC Local News Report a few months after 9/11 that had 90 West in it. The apartments facing Ground Zero were either on fire or completly gutted by the raining debris. So, its nothing to "imagine" about.
AccessDenied55 6 months ago
@AccessDenied55 Thanks for another comment.
I am surprised you use the word "raining" as rain doesn't fall horizontally. Rain does not "gut" an object. Rain does not throw emergency vehicles over hotels onto west street from where they were parked near wtc2 on liberty street.
Not once (that I have seen so far) did a TV talking head mention that 90 west (140 Cedar) was on fire. The FEMA images show it horizontally scorched, not burned.
Ladder/Engine 10 was not crushed.
CNN911Fakes 6 months ago
Could someone with structural knowledge look at the image at 2.35.,behind the fire man, looks like thermite marks.
087mail 7 months ago
@087mail That image has been analysed extensively. I have not analysed it as we don't have a decent time stamp for it.
Thanks for your comment.
CNN911Fakes 7 months ago
I don't think any one here has a degree in engineering or physics. So bullshit evidence. Really a cutter charge? Noticed on the column that molten steel is still attached, cutter charges don't leave molten steel at all, the fact that molten steel is attached to the top of the column actually proves there was no explosive rather a mix of jet fuel and molten aluminum, which when jet fuel and molten aluminum are together in a confined space they form a super heated gas that burns through anything!
nodmessenger 9 months ago
@nodmessenger Jet A-1 was the fuel being used in the aircraft, when the aluminum aircraft melted ( which only would of took about 10 to 20 minutes it mixed with the ignited jet fuel creating a type of Aluminium borohydride fuel, which is a type of rocket fuel, so lets say we have a rocket inside WTC tower, then it is only a matter of minutes until the the burning columns (with hundreds of tons of pressure on top of them) give out and fail...
nodmessenger 9 months ago
@nodmessenger Thanks for visitng and commenting.
Nope. jet fuel is just fancy kerosene. YOu can put a lit match out in it.
Check out my edna cintron videos. No jet fuel. No jet.
CNN911Fakes 9 months ago
This "video" is lots of stills that unfortunately prove nothing whatsoever until you get to 2.37 in the erm slideshow. The column directly behind the fireman centre has almost irrefutably been sliced with a cutter charge. Its v easy to look these up and to see how they are placed on steel columns for demolishing buildings (but basically the exact angle the column in the photo is cut at. Even if the fire had been hot enough why would it have "cut" through the column that way. Rest is just photos!
owsythe1st 9 months ago
Another video that shows nothing. Actually it does, even more that it wasn't a controlled demo, debris was everywhere. You are seeing things in these images that don't really exist. And what's sad is there are people believing this. That would be a feet to be cutting metal in a building w/o anyone noticing. They must have silent saws. Its the gov't and all and they have that technology. Where you even in New York when this happen? Or getting your evidence from only videos on youtube.
chrisj123100 10 months ago
first of all who the fuck is Joe Craine?
Pilotguyr6 11 months ago
I would think its the fact you're so dismissive that makes it difficult. Everyone's an idiot or fucking stupid simply because they share a diff opinion other than your own. Maybe if you didn't act like a complete fing douche bag people might be willing to talk with you, but seeing how you act is there really much point? You're so on the offensive that you invalidate peoples opinions before you even hear them. Then immediately resort to insulting them without offering any point of your own.
Hashmonkey272 11 months ago
no matter what anybody says or thinks, bottom line, it happened, they got away with it and nothing will ever happen, bin laden will never get caught
job1866 1 year ago
@job1866 Bin Laden is as real an identity as Mickey mouse .. Can you show me the birth record for Mickey or name his grandfather ? Its all fake made up bullshit and the only problem with your theory where they get away with it is the knowledge is seeping out of the veins of the U.S government . The 'spam' comment under your comment tells the whole reason for war, technology,medical care ect the list goes on and leaves very little.. They want money money money and fuck the societies all of them.
sylontuk 11 months ago
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In February of 2002 Silverstein Properties won $861 million from Industrial Risk Insurers to rebuild on the site of WTC 7. Silverstein Properties' estimated investment in WTC 7 was $386 million. This building's collapse alone resulted in a profit of about $500 million.
sychophantt 1 year ago
Man what pottymouths some of the commenters are. Using that kind of gutter talk surely makes one think they are real tough peope. Very impressive. Geesh
Rangerbelt 1 year ago
You destroyed nothing shithead. I looked up wtc and gas lines and it all says the same thing.
I am not on here 24/7 and do have other interests in life.
There were no gas lines at the wtcs.
If it supports the official story dont you think it would have been included in the Nist report?
zenoist2 1 year ago
how did i do? i dont normally slag people off but this guy asked for it.he deserves every insuklt he gets. shame its only so many words.
zenoist2 1 year ago
If you want to be a totally insulting shithead i can be too> you are the worlds dick for not researching and utter cock and a shithead peice of crap. you spout crap off and beleive it like your mother did when she was anally fucked by a dim witted goat to produce you.
You are pure anal after all.
You love grating your cheesy cock on a cheesegrater as it gives you a thrill being the pervert you are.
Youre fat slob no brains moron who sits around all day looking at you tube.
zenoist2 1 year ago
@zenoist2 I can only assume that you are speaking to me you miserable, raging cockbag. If you are, here's a fucking tip. Try hitting the "Reply" button next to my comment. That sort of increases the likelihood of my actually seeing your stupidity. You are such a fucking moron that you even fail and YouTube. And be sure to check for my other comment I just posted wherein I utterly destroyed your "class A" bullshit.
captwasabi 1 year ago
Each and every demolition company contacted reinforced that it would have taken months, along with hundreds of men, the stripping of the columns, and the removal of ceiling and wall panels, to plant the explosives to bring down a building that size, as well as miles and miles of exposed wiring and markings. None of those things were found, none were placed, and your video honestly proves nothing. Denial is nasty, and you are in the middle of it. 9/11 was real, just face facts and be happy.
elevenpastsix 1 year ago
2:09 u mean to tell me wtc7 fell to and this building didnt coolapse 9?11 was an inside job!!!!
sharpshoota666 1 year ago
This is such bullshit. In order for any explosives the be used you would need teams of demolitions experts working on the towers for months at a time. Sheet rock would have to be exposed and hundreds of miles of electrical wires would have to be run to the explosives. I am so sick of these bullshit conspiracy theories running around which are based on a complete lack of knowledge. You're like creationists who say "evolution is just a theory" You're all looney.
captwasabi 1 year ago
a conspiracy of this magnitude would require thousands of people and years of planning to execute Seeing that Bush was president for less than 9 months prior to 9/11 you are stating that Bill Clinton is responsible and that he and Bush killed all those responsible for setting it up because NO-ONE has ever come forward with credible proof that it was an inside job so they must be dead (Dead Men tell no Tales). But the real story is easier to believe. you are nothing but an idiot with mommy issues
talon55130 1 year ago
its the asboestos fibres int he walls that caused the dust, and if steel hits the ground at about 80-100 miles an hour it aint staying straight, all these conspiracies have a explination that some too dumb people dont think of
start641 1 year ago
Amazing how you don't see one block of concrete. It's all dust. What the hell turned the concrete into dust? So obviously it wasn't a pancake. Or else you'll have slabs of concrete on top of each other.
Yerizzo 1 year ago
1:24 what building is that?
poopingeneral 1 year ago
uhm lol... all the people that say this shit is a conspiracy are fucking stupid idiotic peaces of shit.. someone explain to me at :29 ...... How the fuck does this picture have proof of a bomb. is the cocacola truck a bomb? didnt think so.. the building on the ground must be the bomb.. right?
panteraowns98 1 year ago
if you pause at 1:11 you can clearly see the alien mothership takeing the taliban to safty to go live on their home world marklark oduh
zeplynrulz 1 year ago
@panteraowns98 and all the people saying there were secondary explosions are part of a mass conspiracy to lie right?
You debunkers are a total joke.
On one hand you dismiss any evidence to cover up for very good reasons that official evidence has been altered but on the other hand you are perfectly happy to go along with thousands of police, firemen and civilian eyewitnesses are lying and part of a mass conspiracy to lie when they have no good reason to do so. Get real you dickheads.
zenoist2 11 months ago
@zenoist2 dont like the country? get the fuck out.
panteraowns98 11 months ago
What a lunacy! The amerikanci have managed to fake some 70 videos from various angels and distances...
Not to mention that few ten thousand eyewitnesses watching it live. (Meen the second plane.)
Maybe the flashlight of Mr. Kay and Mr. Jay can work in the other way too. Not only erasing memory, but they can burn a new memory...
cptMarkoRamius 1 year ago
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y not just slide down the buildings?
pandadust1 1 year ago
another proof is that the building collapsed about 9 seconds. that would mean that its like a free falling body
traineepilot57 1 year ago
They did NOT collapse in 9 seconds or ever near free fall speed
jeffmay1 1 year ago
What are you using to determine the speed? The scientist of the committee studying the collapse and NIST disagree with you.
fake2 1 year ago
Haha, I thought that you didn't agree with NIST? Only when it's convenient?
jeffmay1 1 year ago
The math they used to determine the collapse speed has been agreed upon by both sides. The science was correct.
fake2 1 year ago
the physics of it is.....they are the only 2 major structual buildings that have ever collapsed that way. i emphasise major because there was a 3rd smaller buidling that was near the twin towers that collapsed in the same way..there are no records that show buildings of that design can implode on each other so thats a real 1st for conspiricists..thats the physics of it
skyestheword 1 year ago
You mention that "they are the only 2 major structural buildings that have ever collapsed that way", what you fail to mention is that they were also the only 2 bldgs with that design and construction materials in the world, so of course they could not have fallen the same way as any other bldgs have.
Common sense man!
jeffmay1 1 year ago
you are so DISRISPECTFUL how many people died that day!
gary12363 2 years ago
i heard those steal bars were not made to crumble even if the plane did crash there weren't supposed to fall so the only explanation...Bombs
gome88 2 years ago
Bollocks. That is garbage and you know it. You guys look for something to keep your tiny brains in a frenzie because you haven't got a fucking clue how else to pass 24 hours in a day. Verdict----- the abduls hit 2 towers using 2 planes, the towers did not withstand the impact.-------Result-------Total structure failure due to impact. Amen.........R-I-P all innocent victims.
andytaggart 2 years ago
there were a couple of pictures that shown a corner of the building showsjust that
im one of the small group of people thath believes i you buddy
chrimsilva 2 years ago
learn physics you dumbshit
sacrebleufrc 2 years ago
Bitch your going to tell me that there were NO windows WTC? shut up bitch.
There was once windows there asshole.
Smallsofieee 2 years ago
1:10 you can see peoples clothes or maybe even bodies hanging from the windows.
R.I.P my prayers are with you all!
Smallsofieee 2 years ago
your such a jackass, thats the first floor there were no windows.
halaouie 2 years ago
Clogart..... You are full of shit.... Fact....!
NathanaSe7en 2 years ago
Your Video's r like the font u use 2 write on them. Very Disney Land! Reason dust trails steel is because it's attached 2 concrete. Your talking out yr ass bout bending steel. One other thing I always see is so called explosions happening whilst the building is collapsing. Well this happens due 2 amount of air in building been forced down as the buiding is collapsing. The air pressure is so great that it exits out of the weakest points... example... The windows....! You are a full of shit...
NathanaSe7en 2 years ago
so i suppose your " air " caused the pools of molten metal.. and blew up building 7... your an idiot... wake up and realise it was done for the sole purpose of making trillions of dollars.. just like the start of every war the united states has been in... research it yourself.. and after you do then you can tell me im full of shit... but guess what you wont be able to because im right... fact!\
clogart 2 years ago
damn right we retaliate..there will be an American military presence in the
Middle East for the next 50 years..
rascalferret 2 years ago
gee and Roosevelt provoked the Japanese to attack
Pearl Harbor too right..for an excuse to go to war..yeah sure..he was a liberal democrat...this was a historic heinous crime..mass murder committed by despicable people..if they plotted to use civil aircraft as missles,they couldve set explosives just as easy with little evidence...
rascalferret 2 years ago
But you could not invade the middle east oil fields without the Arabs to blame.
fake2 1 year ago
what i want to tell is : A steal beam leads off the heat very well. Tt needs veeery much energy to heat up a peace of steal, special thos monsters that where used in the WTC. NO fire feed by office material and jetfuel can do this. Thats why steal industry needs special ovens to melt steal.
If this is not need, well, we all can start in melting steal at home in our BBQ-grill.....
Tharalo 2 years ago
The "steel" used for construction is not pure like the steel used in a laboratory to prove your numbers. Try some critical thinking.
observer75 2 years ago
The steel used in the construction is exactly the steel tested by UL! What are you talking about?
fake2 1 year ago
A fire with smoke means three things :
- there is not enough oxygene
- the material burned is not dry.
- undefined material mixes burn (like plastic, oils etc.)
Tharalo 2 years ago
I do blacksmiting. A forge fire CAN melt steel and many other material. I burned so much different materials and wonder what kind of smoke it can make. once i try to heat up a pice of railroad-beam about 14 inch long. It took me about 2.5 h and i only reach a mild red heat on about 3 inch leangth, but i need 25 pounds of coal for it.....
Tharalo 2 years ago
WHAT1!! are u avin a laugh how the fuck does fire burn? IT NEEDS OXYGEN,HEAT AND FUEL(plastic/oils jet fuel etc)
00028796 1 year ago
ok then whats the hottest part of the fire either wood or coal with little or no flames?when you poke it you reveal the inner core which is red/white hot!!!!!!
00028796 1 year ago
snedie is the one who is retarded here! he keeps talking about steel melting and at what temp...these are true in a controlled perfect environment..that day was far from perfect...the buildings were built with the top floor supported by the one below and so on..when the planes hit,they took out numerous whole floors and with the extreme heat it weakens the ones above..you don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand why the structure was compromised!!
drunkmick27 2 years ago
Great and superbly accurate nickname my inebriated paddy friend. Shock and awe was the policy...planes/missiles to grab attention...communications blackout...control the media...3 small thermonuclear devices and lots of shaped charges. Lots of wailing and knashing of teeth.... the arabs are the patsies... get rid of the evidence... get the insurance to start rebuilding. Top of the mornin' to youse.
crusherbloggins 2 years ago
that pic at 0:32 sorta brought a tear to my eye =/
mirsh123 2 years ago
And for the fucking morons that say the jet fuel fatigued or weakened the steel...You are also morons. Steel melts at around 1300C (2500F). Jet fuel (Jet A) burns at 287c (549F). Now does anybody see where I am going here...because if you don't you are seriously fucking retarded.
snedie69er 2 years ago
so with the towers active 24/7 would no one question an army of demo experts cutting and planting explosives that nobody has cum forward to say"hey wots all that noise were trying to fucking work here!" have u seen vids on the wiring that goes on! why do you keep goin on bout this crap and bout time you set outside ur front door and relize there ara other human beings out here that HAVE A BRAIN THAT FUNCTIONS get real!
00028796 2 years ago 2
@00028796
So true, there are no witnesses to the planting of explosives because it never happened. People find it hard to believe that the buildings collapsed because of weakened steel could not support the weight of the upper floors. As they fell, the lower floors could not support the ever increasing weight of the floors as they pancaked on each other.
jgstargazer 2 years ago
what about the weekend before when internet cables had to be upgraded and everyone had to leave the building? look it up and tell me if it isnt a coincidence.
h3wg0 1 year ago
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jgstargazer 1 year ago
What the heck are you talking about. All scientist around the world (for years) agree it was not a Pancake collapse. And just so you know there is now "increasing weight". Whatever the weight was before the collapse was the same after the collapse. Try to remember "ALL" building are over designed according to NYC codes and specifications.
fake2 1 year ago
There are videos of people complaining about noise bangs and dust from the vents. There were also a few complete shut down's of the building as they continued to work without cameras or security in place. Use your BRAIN AND GET ALL FACTS B4 YOU TALK IN PUBLIC.
fake2 1 year ago
yeah oh soz your right, by the way just look up the timescales involved in preparing something that is 70% smaller than the WTC,JUST LET THESE PEOPLE RIP
00028796 1 year ago
this is not real. the burning jet fuel from the plane caused a fire which made the steel fatigue.
Dgamer21 2 years ago
No, the jet fuel was unable too burn simply becuase there was not enough oxygen. Put some petrol into a glass bottle, place the bottle into a paint can. Now light a fire cracker with a decent sized fuze, place into the paint can and put the lid on. Notice how there is no fire ball????
Exactly the same laws of physics
snedie69er 2 years ago
"Exactly the same laws of physics"
Hardly. In fact, not at all close. Quite the opposite in reality.
The planes punched huge holes, across several floors & blew out many more windows in other areas. Not only was there plenty of oxygen to support fire, there was ample wind to act as a giant bellows stoking the shit out of the fire.
Combine the undoubtedly VERY hot fire + damaged insulation on the beams + numerous beams the collision destroyed = failure.
Your's is an idiot's analogy.
paulbunions 2 years ago
I do not proclaim to by a physicist in any way, and I do not know the exact chemical formula for the burning process of jet fuel....But there is a very precise amount of oxygen needed for every molecule of fuel to chemically change (Burn). Now, 20k pounds of jet fuel requires a lot of fucking oxygen....and there is no way it could have all ignited instantly or even burnt entirely within a few hours given the rate that oxygen was entering the building and carbon monoxide and dioxide was leaving.
snedie69er 2 years ago
So shut the fuck up, you dense stupid mother fucking nobody and get some god damn facts about what actually happened that day, how it happened and why things happened the way they did.
snedie69er 2 years ago
Okay, let see what we have here:
"So shut the fuck up, you dense stupid mother fucking.. god damn.. fucking morons.. also morons.. seriously fucking retarded"
Typical. No position to defend so you resort to profanity. Way to go! Really bolsters the lack of credibility in your comments.. kinda throws a light on your general lack of creativity and utter ineptness for the rational & intelligent among us to see.. and laugh at.
You have passed my test.
Thanks for trying, little insect.
paulbunions 2 years ago
I did not need to defend my self, but rather just insult you......All my facts on this page are correct, including those about you.
snedie69er 2 years ago
your facts are correct snedie, but this is the thing no-one wants to believe that their own government is responsible for ALL the tradgedy, and the war in iraq with thousands dead,(civillians english soldiers american soldiers) and good ole bush just sittin back giving the orders, he dont give a fuck cuz hes not out there fighting the REAL fight, im sure his choices would be different if he was.(put him on the frontline!! hes happily killing others and would do it to his own for his greed!!
bigmuso1 2 years ago
yeah your right with that but this is a billion times in size with a billion more cubic area of oxygen, air is been inducted into the building cos of the fire ,think about it !!!!!!! and i work in the fire training industry in the uk
00028796 1 year ago
If oxygen (Air) was been drawn into the building in the quantities needed to sustain the burning of fuel withing a carbon dense atmosphere, then there would have been a raging inferno.
For example, lets say the fireball that erupted as the plane struck the tower is indeed jet fuel. Looking at this, we can see that this fuel burns very vigourosly and brightly.
Now, if we go to say 10 minutes after the crash we can't see any large fires within the building, but rather black smoke.....
snedie69er 1 year ago
Now, as a person who knows all about fires, you should know that thick black smoke indicates that a fire is lacking sufficient oxygen to maintain a complete combustion cycle, and a sufficiently oxygenated fire burns with grey/white smoke.
There is of course exceptions to this rule, say like rubber which burns with a black smoke anyway.
Do you see my point?
snedie69er 1 year ago
no not at all, it depends on what has been ignited,the black smoke is the results of the plastic/oils/office fittings etc no matter how hot the fire there will still be the resulting BLACK smoke with this type of fuelling.
00028796 1 year ago
Oh right my mistake, I was under the impression that the fire was been fueled by aviation fuel and that almost all of the internal structures where either vapourised in the explosion or sent hurtling out of the building in the impact.
Another point, the ammount of black smoke been produced cannot be atributed to said office materials alone.
Another point, there is no fire to be seen through the very dense smoke, which is a sign of oxygen deprivation.
snedie69er 1 year ago
yeh the initial fire was fuelled by avgas this then ignited all, your right that the initial impact lasted 20 30s but the fuel is the spontanious combustables above and below the floors,but believe me just cos you cant see fire on the outside believe me ,fire would be workin its way in every orrifice that building had
00028796 1 year ago
Okays, ignore this guys rant about lying media and the such. But please check this report out, it's very brief, simple and straight to the point:
911research(.)wtc7(.)net/mirrors/guardian2/wtc/how-hot(.)htm
Remove the ()'s, youtube removes hyperlinks.
We shall continue, and discuss your views on the details presented.
Just so you know, I don't fall for conspiracy theories. I just like to look at everything from all points of view.
snedie69er 1 year ago
Why the Disney font?
papachacha 2 years ago
your videos are sooo fuckin boring and mean absulutely fuckall i beleive 9/11 inside job but all you do is jump on the bandwagon with pointless facts and completely meaningless videos with no substance whatsovever in fact i dont even know why i,m writing this. FUCK OFF
colsh1690 2 years ago
That's not dust, that's fly ash. Concrete dust is grey, only ash from an intense fire looks like the WTC 'dust'.
When you see a black smoke fire (black smoke means there is still fuel in the air column) Turn to a white smoke fire, as it did at the WTC, that means the fire is at extreme temperatures.
It also means the fire has established it's own fire environment, a "fire storm", where the rising hot air causes a vacuum sucking in cool air, and it causes forge like conditions.
Merlin5x5 2 years ago
wow lol alot of these pics aren't actually of the twin towers at all
mothahen123 2 years ago
yea... i wonder how there could be dust? maybe because of tons of concret crushing everthing???
again... no proof at all...
go to hell CNN911Fakes
Zetty112 2 years ago
at 2:00 u can see plainly the beam the 4 men are standing on has the classic slice of thermite demolitionit is a clean diagonal cut thru the metal beam
victor2cutube 2 years ago
joe ur a fuckin jerkofff, take ur theories and shove em up ur fuckin then get cancer and die, but b4 u do that,...go fuck ur mother
slbenzito 2 years ago
When you present evidence in this fashion it deminishes the legitimate efforts of legitimate people who present themselves to the world, putting themselves at risk, in an attempt to bring out the truth.
huzurdaddy9 2 years ago
HAAAAHAHAHAHAHA it takes a special kind of moterf$cker saying stupid and non scientific BULLSHIT like that.............. i hope these people die slowly...................
cause they are pissig all over the people who died here......... just disgusting kind of people......
never ever bringing real prove........
R2daE01 2 years ago
What an anaylsis, what thinking - NOT. Again, your thinking is that of a two year old.
rizon72 2 years ago
This was just another peice of the huge puzzle that the NWO's putting together for total world domination. This is your government at work- when will Americans wake up? God Bless all those that lost their lives that day for nothing more than the quest for greed and power
soeasypls 2 years ago
Oy yeah...looks like clear "evidence"...NOT!
PeteTheHeat19 2 years ago
petetheheat19
Your skill with words simply overwhelms me.
It is nearly as good as your clear concise support of your position.
Thanks fo stopping by. If you ever have time, actually watch the video.
CNN911Fakes 2 years ago
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@CNN911Fakes -Hate your guts you damn scum. Your the FAKE. Well you can count me as a NYr who was there, one & two blocks away, through the whole thing. I saw several jumpers, people falling along side the bldgs. Tons of office papers flying out of the gaping hole. Saw and photographed the jet eng on CHURCH ST! not West St. There were NO explosions EVER! just the sound of the bldgs cracking, snapping, and rumbling as they came down, a sound I'll never forget. You weren't there, I was. Bastard!
henrynevins 1 year ago
See "How The Towers Fell".
Fascinating presentation by an industry professional.
Twinhit 2 years ago
Thermite and/or Thermate are thought to have generated the wedged cuts, as done in controlled demolition, however salvage crews may have added in order to control the direction of fall of some debris demolition requirements during cleanup process.
Interesting that the evidence was quickly shipped away to secured location and sold for scrap. Whatever happened to evidence tampering laws???
Twinhit 2 years ago
Also, there is the issue of temperatures required to soften, melt steel. The temperature of the flame must be focused on the same spot for a given space of time for steel to achieve malleability. Think about this: Gravity would have pulled a lot of that fuel to the base ot the towers but there were no fires throughout the twrs. Just focused on floors where the planes hit.
If anything, I would have suspected the tops (above impact) falling off instead of pancake collapse. That didn't happen.
Twinhit 2 years ago
There wasn't enough fuel in those planes to produce the required heat to weaken the entire buildings that they would fall in about 9-10 seconds.
Twinhit 2 years ago
even a full talk of jet fuel can only reach a temp of about 600 degrees, and not in a concentrated area, unlike thermite, which reaches ~5000 degrees
kiddkaos1 2 years ago
i wonder if we take all the commie bastards together..dump some jet fuel on them, and then light it...just wonder if they would reach 600 degrees or if crap burns at a higher temperature
cmarberg18 2 years ago
They wouldn't even get to half that temp.....and steel also melts at over 1300 degrees C.
snedie69er 2 years ago
exactly snedie!!! it was thermite that melted the steel, thats why there was a very small if any remainders of the steel used to make the floors, and the absolute tons of concrete used to make this building all blown to literally DUST normal fires dont cause this amount of catastrophic damage, but explosives do!!
bigmuso1 2 years ago
Those be some damn powerful "pancakes".
Sharp, too. And neat. Just look at all those straight cuts. :)
nameofthepen 3 years ago 2
I don't know if your theory can brainwash non-New Yorkers because they happen to be there and watching the whole thing, we just happen to be one of these people.
Yes, an airplane crashed into the tower, people jumped out to end their lives, buildings collapsed, fire trucks and ambulances came and what do you expect?
Lilkiwiguy87 3 years ago
lilkiwiguy87
You got proof people jumped? Talk about dishonoring the victims!
You mention my "theory." I have watched this video numerous times and, you know, it presents proof that another theory is wrong and does not present any theory at all.
Tell us what theory this video presents that is wrong.
ps, any NYr that was reasonbly close to wtc felt and heard the explosions and saw the squibs. Ask amy goodman.
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
@CNN911Fakes - Well you can count me as a NYr who was there, one & two blocks away, through the whole thing. I saw several jumpers, people falling along side the bldgs. Tons of office papers flying out of the gaping hole. Saw and photographed the jet eng on CHURCH ST! not West St. There were NO explosions EVER! just the sound of the blds cracking, snapping, and rumbling as they came down, a sound I'll never forget. You weren't there, I was. Your just a hate America NUT. You have my sympathy.
henrynevins 1 year ago 2
@CNN911Fakes Uh, I was there, saw the buildings fall and what I saw and heard would typically be explained as explosions by the average person. There were, however, no secondary bombs or anything of that nature. A lot of the "explosions" we heard was actually either gas lines erupting or compressed air escaping as the building collapsed. Just because you distrust the govt please do not co-opt this terrible event to further your political agenda of stupidity.
captwasabi 1 year ago
@captwasabi all the buildings were grade A .
It means there were no gas lines.
Its a fire hazard dont you know?
So please examine some facts posting utter nonsense.
zenoist2 1 year ago
@zenoist2 There were no gas lines in the WTC? Then what powered the executive kitchens and all the restaurants? I love it when clueless fuckstick morons like yourself tell me to go examine some facts when you wouldn't know a fact if it fell out of the sky and gave you a lap dance and a happy ending. No gas lines in the WTC. Fucking awesome!
captwasabi 1 year ago
@captwasabi thank you for the insults.
Please go and look it up instead of relying on your amazing intelligence.
Have you ever heard of bottled gas?
Thought not, it is difficult to grasp that propane and butane can be in a cylinder for debunkers since its a known and proven thing.
I repeat
THERE WERE NO GAS LINES.
Ask anybody in construction what a class A building means in regard to gas lines.
If you want to be yet another debunker showing off your intelligence go ahead .
zenoist2 1 year ago
@zenoist2 I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about and obviously neither do you. Class A, B or C has NOTHING to do with gas lines. In fact, there is no definitive formula for classifying a building. Simply put there are no "Class A" building codes and if you think there are then you are the stupidest fucking moron in the world. In fact, I think you would be hard pressed to find ANY building code that forbade gas lines in high rise buildings. You are the dumbest of the dumb. congrats.
captwasabi 1 year ago
@captwasabi if you think building codes about skyscrapers dont take into account gas lines in skyscrapers then by all means just insult me and ignore all proven fact and go ahead.
Look up CLASS A buildings on the internet and tell me where are the gas lines?
The fact you just insult all and sundry that disagrees with you and points out very obvious proven facts is enough to know you are a debunker.
Direct youre hatred to researching class a buildings and gas lines instead
zenoist2 1 year ago
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captwasabi 1 year ago
@zenoist2 Yes! I am a debunker! I debunk your bullshit! I've looked up building codes and there simply are no "Class A" building codes in NYC. Building Code A covers houses you stupid fuck. Building Code O covers OFFICES!!!. The WTC was an O4 building code which is Office building, tower type. As for the gas lines in the WTC, they were fully compliant with FDNY and building guidelines. Now, either you cite proof that there were no gas lines in the WTC or just shut the fuck up.
captwasabi 1 year ago
@captwasabi There is absolutely no debunking all the coincidences that happened that day. If you looked subjectively just at the testimonies and info thats been uncovered since, even the biggest critic has got to be damn thats a bit shady. Everyone admits governments are corrupt, its just a difference between perception and reality. There is just no excuse to be that ignorant anymore, so either you're within the system or truly ignorant, in which case way to take to the programming.
Hashmonkey272 11 months ago
@Hashmonkey272 There is plenty of debunking of the bullshit conspiracy theory claims. Are you seriously stupid enough to think that in the days of Wikileaks a secret of this magnitude can be kept? Really? We get our dirty laundry aired about mistakely killing some reporters but this is kept secret? Please tell me you're not reallt that fucking stupid? There is no programming, there is no sinister plot. There is just idiots like you who believe faulty science and bullshit claims.
captwasabi 11 months ago
@captwasabi Thank god for wikileaks huh, as we all know there was never any government corruption that ever came to light before it, and obviously since if it doesn't expose it, it must truly not exist. All i said was look at the coincidences that happened that day, yet somehow you either ignored that or completely missed it and i'm the one who's stupid ? Work on your reading comprehension.
Hashmonkey272 11 months ago
@Hashmonkey272 You did not say "look at the coincidences". What you said was "There is absolutely no debunking all the coincidences that happened that day". The obvious implcation here is that there were too many "coincidences" and that it all had to be planned. This implication is further compunded by your statement that even the most skeptical would think it was a "bit shady" which again implies a govt conspiracy. so please, either debate honestly or do not debate at all.
captwasabi 11 months ago
@captwasabi How am i not being honest? You're the one assuming shit outta thin air, In no way does saying coincidences interpret into conspiracies. You're making that jump, in any other scenario you can say there is obviously more evidence but when it involves the government its a ct. Why is that ? Obviously you know more than the 911 commission did so what do you know that makes everyone else *fucking stupid* ? And seriously you critique me on my debate etiquette ? Really?
Hashmonkey272 11 months ago
@Hashmonkey272 See, this is why it's so difficult talking with you conspiracy theory idiots. If I believe the govt side of the story I'm a good recipient of their programming, you refer to the entire event as "shady" and make all other sort of comments alluding to there being some sort of cover up but when put to the task it's "oh no, I didn't actually say that." There was no govt involvement, there was no conspiracy. End of fucking story.
captwasabi 11 months ago
@zenoist2 So out of curiousity, hve you pulled your head out of your ass and done some research into what the building codes are for NYC and how there are no codes preventing gas lines in high rise buildings? I figured I would give you a month before the fucking lightbulb came on and you realized that high-rise apartment buildings have gas lines in them you stupid fuck.
So, has the lightbulb come on yet?
captwasabi 11 months ago
@CNN911Fakes Iloved three blocks away from WTC and there were no bombs asshat. Yes, there were explosion like sounds but in a high-rise building fill of gas lines and compressed air lines that was collapsing one sort of expects that. As for people jumping, I fucking saw the bodies falling you stupid cunt.
And yes, talk about dishonoring the victims. That's what you do every day with your bullshit attempt to turn heir tragedy into your own personal anti-govt crusade you vile piece of shit.
captwasabi 11 months ago
@captwasabi
Thank you, its nice to have someone that was there show more proof these people are nuts. They are doing such disrespect to all the victims and their families. They are insisting that all of you guys that watched it happen really didn't. They have the worst arguments ever. I watched many of this person's video post and they prove nothing, usually it shoes the direct opposite of what they are trying to prove. My heart goes out to all there that day and the victims & families.
chrisj123100 10 months ago
@chrisj123100 "No victim was ever honored
No future victim ever protected
by the conviction/lynching of the
wrong person"
Think of the suffering, the unrequieted deaths, the murders.
Are you feeling...
proud
smug
safe...yet?
CNN911Fakes 10 months ago
So you're showing pictures of explosions and debris, wow.
the steel frame of the buildings heated up (due to the inferno within the building) to the point where it could no longer withstand it's own weight and so it collapsed.
Seriously, I'm drunk and I can even show the flaws in your logic.
max0t90 3 years ago 2
max0t90
Really?
This video proves that steel was cut prior to arriving at ground zero, ground level. You comment doesn't address that at all.
Regarding an "inferno," perhaps you can get us all some visual evidence supporting that contention. Cause, you know, there isn't any and there are plenty of images showing people standing in the windows of the twins, not burning.
Did you see the guy on 98 wtc1 licking the ice cream cone? CNN around 10:00am.
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
How is this proof of steel being "cut"? It's just a slideshow of crumpled debris.
Actually, never mind, if there's two things life has taught me, one is to wash my hands after going to the toilet, the other is to never argue with a conspiracy theorist. They'll drag you down to their level of debate and beat you with experience. :P
Have a nice day, man :)
max0t90 3 years ago
It's just so simple isn't it? On with your lives everyone! The government has figured it all out. Don't worry, they didn't make a profit off of the death of 3000 Americans. Don't worry! It was just "the inferno" that caused the buildings to collapse. Go back to shopping and caring only about yourself. Don't worry about 9/11. We have it all figured out.
bweazel 3 years ago 2
LoL Your Ridiculous Man, Another Dumb Conspiracy Theorist Who Doesnt Research Enough, Go Ahead And Delete My Comment, Your The Faker Here No CNN, How Could They Fake A Plane Flying Into A Building ? Gee Some People Now Days Are So Smart, I Bet You Also Graduated From Harvard w/ High Honors Huh ? LoL Douche
igottaxonmychest 3 years ago 2
igottaxonmychest
Funny how monikers change, but style doesn't.
I just got the shock of my life; the account of rabbitvoz was suspended and all of his comments were deleted.
Joe Craine says he understands!
Of course, there is still slackerslayer. Perhaps he could reinstate that "rabbit poop" video there?
ps, my rules for deleting comments are pretty "bright line." YOu were close, but your comment can stay.
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
Yes But What Terry Manning Is Saying Is That They Are Panels, So It Will Look Like They Are Cut Because They Were Cut Before The WTC Towers Were Made Because Thats How The Exterior Of The Building Was Made w/ Big Steel Panels Bolted Together ? Do You Seriously Think There Are Just 4 Huge Pieces OF Steel Forming The 4 Sides Of The Towers ? There Are Thousands Of Huge Panels On Each Tower So When Each Panel Is Alone It Looks Like It Has Been Cut, And How Could There Not Be A Plane ?
igottaxonmychest 3 years ago
igottaxonmychest
Nope!
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
CNN911Fakes
Ive seen the cut steel as well online but people(debunkers) tell me it was done by the salvage crews. Is there any way of finding out what time those pics were taken? Or has any salvage crew claimed those cuts? Thanks
onesliceshort 3 years ago
onesliceshort
No 911 images have pedigree. Those photographers that used 35 mm lost the negatives. Digital, lost the original copy.
Fact is, the pieces stuck in west street, church street, bankers trust and the American Express tower could not have been cut by workers before the images were captured.
CNN911Fakes 3 years ago
@onesliceshort i doubt it was cut by salvage crews because some shit like this happens and the first thing on peoples minds are to come in and cut stuff up i mean come on.And look at this TWO faild bombins from december 25 and may 2. These people can pull off something like this but they cant set off a bomb right? It just dosent add up.
KYLEAKAFLYBOIK 1 year ago
@onesliceshort Since the salvage crews were standing in the pictures, it tells teh story better than guessing.
shooter686 1 year ago
@onesliceshort In this case, the steel columns would have been visible after the collapse. But only two or three of the 47 columns were standing. Its impossible for a building to collapse with 2m/s squared. Thats enough of evidence that the buildings didn't collapse without being cut before.
MillyVanillification 1 year ago
Lets see.
All of your images pre the one minute mark show NO marks of being cut.
You show the columns (or the candlestick as the recovery crews called it) at the one minute mark, but ALL of those cuts came AFTER the collapse (it is a documented fact). The same area is shown at 111 before the iron workers were cutting the areas. Your picture at 227 came AFTER the collapse. Firefighters were still on the scene up through november.
you show 8 minutes of still photos, and NOT ONE shows explosives
adorabilly1 3 years ago