I love how the dramatic music is played and the theme changes 3 times (Rhein maiden theme, Valhalla theme, Brunnhilde/Siegfried love theme) while a bunch of people do nothing but stand around. NOT.
@angryjalapeno; I just saw the 1990 Met/Levine Ring on DVD which has mythical costumes/setting that give the full symbolic meaning. From the myth we know the gods are the upper class (having religious power) and the dwarves/giants are a lower class. We know Siegfried is the heroic/Noble Savage who is corrupted by civilization. And when the costumes/setting are mythical, the magic Ring/Helm/Dragon also works. But this modern costume 1976 Bayreuth production doesn't make sense imo.
@bb1111116 I agree with you. The only reason I watch this video is because of Gwyneth Jones (hair style, dress, hand gestures, and singing; she shines in this).
This has Wotan's story as a human drama about a wealthy man who is involved with prostitutes, has lots of children out of wedlock, can't pay his contractors for a new mansion except by offering his sister in law as a slave and so ends up stealing a ring which has a curse. The story shows how wealthy Wotan tries to deal with the curse kind of like Rigoletto. At the end, a crazy woman jumps into a fire, the prostitutes get the ring and the wealthy guy's house burns down! All wrong for this opera.
@Chrysothemis Allegory needs to fit. The opera is based on a 1000 year old mythology which has magical objects and beings. It is that magic with its symbolism which allows the story to work.
The last scene in this production shows a 19th century street where ~ 50 bystanders passively watch a mad woman who is committing suicide. The behavior of this 19th century crowd does not make sense.
All the clumsy use of allegory does is mask the more accurate meanings of the opera.
The way I see it, there are two ways of staging the Ring: you either do a literal staging as specified in the score, or you come up with your own, based on your interpretation of the work.
The first will be generalized, allowing the audience to make up their own minds. The second, at its best, will be personal, showing the audience yet another relevant facet of a work they thought they knew inside out.
This, in my mind, is the textbook ideal example of the second approach.
@Chrysothemis; You liking this production is fine. I'm not trying to change anyone's POV about how this should be staged. I'm just expressing my opinion of what I like.
When I want to see a traditional Ring on DVD, I'll watch the Met version. If I want to see a production live, I'll go to Seattle.
It's just a matter of taste. And not every opera enthusiast is the same. I wish you well and have fun enjoying modern productions of Wagner's Ring. ;-)
an absolute great production - it was to play in 18ies (industrial revolution) but last part could have been in 1940ies- when the Nazis thought themselves be gods and then went down in bombs and fire together with so many innocent they had killed ....(thought to be highly culturally interested, Hitler a lover of operas, Heydrich playing violine...but lacking culture of the heart...those cheap murderers)
Amazing Immolation Scene! Gwyneth Jones was on fire (excuse the humorous bit considering the fire on stage). Her Brunhilde was passionate, strongly sung and quite moving. Usually, I find her voice to have too much vibrato and the pacing of her singing is too slow. She also cracks now and then. But this was really quite good. However I don't care for post-modern Ring cycles that change the original Wagner setting of Norse mythological fantasy of deities, flying horses and Valhalla in the clouds.
Unmögliche Inszenierung! Viel zu konkret! Die anderen (?) stehen nur dabei wie Gaffer bei einem Verkehrsunfall. Sind sie nun Beteiligte oder nur dummes Publium?
The Chereau prod. SUCKS and is a travesty to Wagner's great libretto (luckily Boulez couldn't kill the immortal music). People what kind of taste do you have after giving this s--- a thumbs up?? Chereau set a disturbing trend of creating space invader/transvestite/victorian mansion/factory RINGS that we've had to deal with as viewers ever since! Yah, Let's go to the Opera and NOT escape reality, by all means. Lets not learn about medieval myths--but feel compelled to put them in factories!!
@windstorm1000 Screw Chéreau's version, I just came back from David McVicar's version of the Götterdämmerung currently played at the Opera of the Rhine in Strasbourg, which is considerably better on almost any level.
@deusirae76 Hi, I am not against tasteful, dramatically relevant up renditions of the Ring--I trust that the one you went to was on that level? No Wotan as a fat cat industrialist or Brunnhilde as a street walker???
@windstorm1000 Nothing like that, no "bourgeois" costumes or settings. McVicar's rendition is easily one of the best "Ring" of the decade, in Europe at least (he started the cycle 6 years ago, one opera every two years).
@windstorm1000 I'm not sur if Wagner would have appreciated the use of samurai uniforms (for Hagen and his men in particular), but McVicar's version was truly great.
Peter Jackson is way too healthy/epic for this brand of late German romantic neurosis this is pure BerlinAlexanderplatz FASSBINDER . He should have been invited to BAyreuth ! So 20th century is still greedy,neurasthenic,hyperhysteria ,over-stimulated.
GUAAAAAUU es la primera vez que escucho un aria de wagner, es increiblemente dificil, el volumen, la potencia que hay que sostener, en un registro relativamente incomodo para cantar. IMPRESIONANTE. y la orquesta suena impresionante. sin palabras
@juanmaplante, casi siempre es impresionante la orquesta ( y añádele la acústica ), es como los Berliners ( me refiero a los philarmonikers ), por supuesto
This production was SO controversial when it first appeared but our tastes have mellowed and matured as it now looks so intelligent and profound. Patrice Chereau created a production of genius.
What happened to Alberich anyway? I was left feeling confused as to how the dwarf could be prevented from simply stealing the ring again. Can anyone explain this?
Alberich transmits the desire to get the ring to his son Hagen in "Götterdämmerung" (Act 2, Scene 1). He taught him to hate and to seek revenge on his behalf. When Hagen dies, this "transmission" also dies.
Also when Brünnhilde gives back the ring to the rhinemaidens, she tells them to improve on looking after the ring, to "purer preserve your shining gold" so that ...
...the disaster doesn't happen again. Alberich could only steal the ring, because he and his dangerous attitude had been underestimated. It was a fault to tell him about the potential power of the ring. But this won't happen a second time.
Apart from that, the ending is open: it is possible that a new world order comes into existence. But the gold in the Rhine will always be there and tempting. Its threat lies within everybodys freedom to take it.
Somptueux ! le Ring Chéreau-Boulez, une vision humaine et télurique avec un chef qui connait cette partition et sait la diriger ... à entendre et à re-entendre.
what a glorious sound! i know there are those that harp on the "screeching" and inconsistencies that may or may not be present in her singing at times, but the voice here was awesome and awe-inspiring. Brava!...
I do not think her voice ever screeched.. it was the scooping and the wobbling that later kinda ruined her singing, and .. she was starting to wobble in 1980 too, especially in the middle and upper middle. Singing too big.
"Don't do it Brunnhilde!-Ah man she does that EVERY time"...But seriously WOW! shivers and tears as always. I am new to Gweyneth Jones but after this methinks I am her fan. Now all I need is the box set of DVDs!
I could never get used to Gwyneth Jones' wobbly vibrato. Interesting production. When it first appeared in 1976 it caused public outrage,with boos (and even fights) in the auditorium.
Despite any adverse criticism, I adore Dame Gwyneth's voice and her interpretations. Here, she manages to combine a voice of Wagnerian dimensions with a physical vulnerability which, in my opinion, has yet to be beaten after almost 33 years.
@rumpwrestler I totally agree with you. There are/have been other great Wagnerians but, for me, there hasn't been anyone who has quite managed to combine the requisites to be an outstanding Wagnerian; vocal prowess, stamina and 1st rate characterisations. She always seems so believable on stage; how does she manage to get underneath the skin of every character and make us believe that she is actually Brunhilde/Sieglinde/Kundry/Senta, etc.? Truly amazing and one of the greatest performers.
@deusirae76 This is now into difficult ground for me as I greatly admire both of these Wagnerians for different reasons; I have to reiterate that this is purely a personal opinion. Birgit Nilsson was one of the most thrilling and exciting singers - her Isoldes from Bayreuth are just out of this world - but, for me, she lacked Jones' warmth and compassion. Whereas, Jones captured the character's soul but did not always have the vocal security of Nilsson at her prime. Both excellent artists.
@deusirae76 Although, she did not sing Isolde (in its' entirity on stage) or continue with Brunhilde, Leonie Rysanek was another excellent Wagnerian, who shared many roles with Jones and Nilsson. Many Sieglindes have tried but I cannot look past Rysanek's interpretation here. I think of all three singers, Rysanek had the most thrilling upper register - those E flats/screams as Sieglinde or the end of Der Fliegende Hollander? Excellent stuff.
@SilentShooter53 Please, take that stuff somewhere else. Maybe you and he could get together and make a Ring Cycle with Drew Barrymore and Brad Pitt, with the vocals from American Idol winners.
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It is by far the best production and makes sense as 30 years of hyperpole of Wall Street burns before our eyes and mainstreet is left to fend for itself
Dame Gwyneth is amazing, as always; the conducting and the playing of the orchestra is inspired, and for once the orchestra doesn't cover the singers in this opera.
Right! She IS amazing singing! Her voice and its power is brilliant! BUT her pronounciation of German....hmm....i would say....it could be much better:P
remarkable musicianship and very clear phrasing... great costume and scenography... i didnt like that-fast, get out of my way, i must get that fire torch and throw it down! (gdoop) to burn... Valhalla? a bit naif
I am not going to be called a faggot and just lay there and take it. You want to call me faggot, say it to my face! That's right Lohengrin, if you have the balls say it to my damn face. If NOT, then shut the hell up. Because I will be glad to show you just what this FAG can do.
Smae place where all the other production's Granes are: nowhere. I have yet to see a Ring which has horses (not horse skulls... not fake horses...) onstage.
It really won't work well, as it is not a horse show. Spectators would just watch the horses to see if they are naughty onstage and ignore the human actors. This is a place where back-projected movie might help.
God Bless Astrid and Birgit. There IS a Valahalla in the afterlife, and Wagner himself conducts. These video excerpts are highly and intensely addictive. Starting at 6:51, I want to cross over. And the modulation at the end from minor to major slays me.
Anybody in the house (Met) when Valhalla's central support beam came crashing down on Hilddegaard's head ?? Steve Brown, Stage Manager, are you listening ? WERE you listening ? Cane.
Wirklich ein "Jahrhundert Ring", absolut sehr Gut!!! Von solch einer Inszinierung darf man sich hinreisen lassen! Sehr das Finale "Das Rheingold", einmal Loge sein dürfen....
The way the cast at the very end turns around and faces the audience in silence is a master stroke of the highest order. The gods overreached, and self-destructed on jealousy and ambition. Responsibility for our species, the Earth, and perhaps for the entire universe if Frank Tipler is on to something, is now ours -- we being the spectators to the Ring, the greatest of all staged debacles.
I just always get from her "Its all about being loud on high notes" but sometimes I'd prefer more line..yes even in Wagner. It just sounds to me like she has an incredible instrument that she never quite learned how to control completely.
Given that Gwyneth Jones had a significant early career singing Italian repertoire of the most technically demanding nature, it's absurd to suggest that she couldn't sing with legato or that her instrument was somehow not under control. She had a very big voice - she wouldn't be able not to sing big high notes when the music demanded but she could float them too. Big voices rarely record as well as they are experienced live - her huge success over many years says enough about her abilities.
Wow. I just finished watching the entire Boulez-Chéreau Ring on DVD, and I must say I am impressed. I can understand why the costumes/sets stirred up some controversy (even I would have preferred something more traditional), but the superb stage direction and attention to detail more than make up for those trifles. What energy!
Jones makes a stunning, convincing Brünhilde, both dramatically and vocally, and I feel this act is where she shines the most. Who cares about two or three missed notes?
This was a production conceived for the stage, rather than for film or TV. She is acting for the scale of the theatre - nothing too big from her. And, if I remember correctly, it is the end of the world!
platero55: doesn't it all just start again? Isn't that the point of a cycle? doomed to repeat itself over and over through eternity, the ends and the beginings puncuated by an apocolypse, a "kalpa" in Sanscrit, an ending of one cycle and begining of the next.
As for this being "one of the most important scenes to the entire history of operatic music", I have read of many important musicians and opera critics who see Gotterdammerung as failingly overwrought, but I love it.
LOL....she stands MORE than a "chance". She's on a par with ANY dramatic soprano that ever lived. The woman's voice was monstrously big, and she was supremely athletic in the way she used it. Coupled with her obvious great commitment to the drama, you have an artist that is more complete than most, with a voice that could drown out just about anyone. That orchestra at Bayreuth didn't stand a chance.
The opera's story is based on a nordic and german mythical saga. This means is purely symbolic, so it has a lot of levels of significance and multiple interpretations. What you are saying is just one of the meanings.
In terms of dramatic impact, this is far and away the greatest account of the Immolation ever recorded. Nilsson and Flagstad were certainly more precise, but Jones' fiery commitment is astonishing. I'll take an imperfectly pitched note or two any day...
Understanding of drama becomes emotion. Free of any moral or ethical judgement. Thank You Wagner for such wonderful way to transmit the eternal message.
This beautiful woman pouring out beautiful cavernous sounds... It is orgiastic.
After four days of an operatic saga you want to have a musical orgasm (HaHaHa!!) to reward you for being such a good boy, and this staging and singing does it. I am talking on an intellectual level of course... LOL
Musically Nilsson can't be touched. But Jones is arguably the best theatrical Brunnhilde (for singing and acting) and this entire Ring is one of the greatest staging ever. Watch it all the way through and be convinced.
Why is this a famous production? It's ridiculous. Looks like it's happening in some repressive communist regime... and there's no Grane? On top of that Jones makes mistakes!
I saw her sing this at the Met in rehearsals. They did the complete Götterdämmerung. I was thrilled. She came down to talk with a friend of mine. THEN!!! she had to rehearsal ALL of the music with the "other" tenor for that run. She was AMAZING!!!! And so nice as can be. She sounded equally engaged the second time around.
Thanks for posting this. The music from the finale of the Ring Cycle has been with me since I was a child--many years before I even heard it, if you can believe that, so it means a lot to me to be able to see a theatrical depiction of it and to hear the spine-tingling strains of the Valhalla theme. Once again, thanks.
Same here... but we may have picked up on it from Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd... Oh Brunhilde, you're so wuvwy. Yes I know it, I can't help it:o). That was one of my favorite cartoons growing up, and it certainly introduced me to the ring cycle as it incorporated the whole darn thing!
Whew....Brunnhilde just doesn't get much better than that, Nilsson included (even though I know I'll be hassled for saying it). She just vaults that HUGE voice out into space. It's so....athletic.
I agree. I do prefer Nilsson's cleaner attack, and easier way with producing high notes, but one cannot deny the visceral impact of Jones' performance.
Gwenyth is great!
TommyHaegin 3 weeks ago
Magic can totally work in a 19th century setting. Just imagine it's steampunk, folks...
Sieglinde84 1 month ago
Disgusting! Get those business suits off you idiots. You make Rhine Maidens into whores. YOU BASTARDS!
zinpgh 1 month ago
I love how the dramatic music is played and the theme changes 3 times (Rhein maiden theme, Valhalla theme, Brunnhilde/Siegfried love theme) while a bunch of people do nothing but stand around. NOT.
angryjalapeno 2 months ago
@angryjalapeno; I just saw the 1990 Met/Levine Ring on DVD which has mythical costumes/setting that give the full symbolic meaning. From the myth we know the gods are the upper class (having religious power) and the dwarves/giants are a lower class. We know Siegfried is the heroic/Noble Savage who is corrupted by civilization. And when the costumes/setting are mythical, the magic Ring/Helm/Dragon also works. But this modern costume 1976 Bayreuth production doesn't make sense imo.
bb1111116 2 months ago
@bb1111116 I agree with you. The only reason I watch this video is because of Gwyneth Jones (hair style, dress, hand gestures, and singing; she shines in this).
angryjalapeno 1 month ago
The ring had doomed them all...
TheVoiceOfReason93 3 months ago
@TheVoiceOfReason93 ...us included...
TommyHaegin 3 weeks ago
９：３８からの約２０秒にわたる大衆の沈黙がすごい説得力がある！！
普通ならすぐに幕だけど、「退位した神々」と「世界を引き継いだ人間」の結界のような気がします。
デイム・グゥィネス・ジョーンズの乙女から勇者への変貌振りはタンホイザーのダブルキャストを彷彿とさせる名演ですね。
kenenibe 3 months ago
this production is infamously dreadful in every way. The Bayrueth Directors had to have been high when they pickd Chereau to direct. ITs really foul.
windstorm1000 4 months ago
This has Wotan's story as a human drama about a wealthy man who is involved with prostitutes, has lots of children out of wedlock, can't pay his contractors for a new mansion except by offering his sister in law as a slave and so ends up stealing a ring which has a curse. The story shows how wealthy Wotan tries to deal with the curse kind of like Rigoletto. At the end, a crazy woman jumps into a fire, the prostitutes get the ring and the wealthy guy's house burns down! All wrong for this opera.
bb1111116 6 months ago
@bb1111116 How about googling the word "allegory"? You might learn something.
Chrysothemis 5 months ago
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bb1111116 5 months ago
@Chrysothemis Allegory needs to fit. The opera is based on a 1000 year old mythology which has magical objects and beings. It is that magic with its symbolism which allows the story to work.
The last scene in this production shows a 19th century street where ~ 50 bystanders passively watch a mad woman who is committing suicide. The behavior of this 19th century crowd does not make sense.
All the clumsy use of allegory does is mask the more accurate meanings of the opera.
bb1111116 5 months ago
@bb1111116
The way I see it, there are two ways of staging the Ring: you either do a literal staging as specified in the score, or you come up with your own, based on your interpretation of the work.
The first will be generalized, allowing the audience to make up their own minds. The second, at its best, will be personal, showing the audience yet another relevant facet of a work they thought they knew inside out.
This, in my mind, is the textbook ideal example of the second approach.
Chrysothemis 3 months ago
@Chrysothemis; You liking this production is fine. I'm not trying to change anyone's POV about how this should be staged. I'm just expressing my opinion of what I like.
When I want to see a traditional Ring on DVD, I'll watch the Met version. If I want to see a production live, I'll go to Seattle.
It's just a matter of taste. And not every opera enthusiast is the same. I wish you well and have fun enjoying modern productions of Wagner's Ring. ;-)
bb1111116 2 months ago
@bb1111116 the French like their prostitutes, thank you very much. They'll try to work them into everything.
angryjalapeno 2 months ago
beautiful but no magic.
carinaelle1 7 months ago
In Hollywood's comic book version, Sinestro would fight with the Rhine Maidens for possession of the Ring.
MrAdvancedAtheist 7 months ago
Gwyneth rules!
kicyro 8 months ago
As mcuh as I love Game of Thrones, GRRM simply stole this, left the girl alive and added dragons.
Sieglinde84 8 months ago
The Fire! The exultant Rhinemaidens! The delicate ending...love it!
OperaBracelets 9 months ago
Immaculate!!!
LaurieKeren 9 months ago
an absolute great production - it was to play in 18ies (industrial revolution) but last part could have been in 1940ies- when the Nazis thought themselves be gods and then went down in bombs and fire together with so many innocent they had killed ....(thought to be highly culturally interested, Hitler a lover of operas, Heydrich playing violine...but lacking culture of the heart...those cheap murderers)
khi590 9 months ago
I had the honor of experiencing Gwyneth Jones at a 1985 Production of the Ring and the San Francisco Opera. What a performance!
johntlew 9 months ago
Amazing Immolation Scene! Gwyneth Jones was on fire (excuse the humorous bit considering the fire on stage). Her Brunhilde was passionate, strongly sung and quite moving. Usually, I find her voice to have too much vibrato and the pacing of her singing is too slow. She also cracks now and then. But this was really quite good. However I don't care for post-modern Ring cycles that change the original Wagner setting of Norse mythological fantasy of deities, flying horses and Valhalla in the clouds.
OperaMystery80 10 months ago
Dame Gwyneth is my absolute favorite. Her voice has plenty of steel but also so much warmth. I never tire of listening to her.
jrosings1 11 months ago
That certainly doesn't look the end of the world to me... Try again please
MrDsmalls 11 months ago
too bourgeousie!!! where are the gods?? they act like streetwalkers or CEO's!!
windstorm1000 1 year ago
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windstorm1000 1 year ago
¡¡¡Magnifica Interpretacion!!!; Jones en un gran momento, de su extensa carrera,
dando lo mejor de su veracidad interpretativa, tanto en lo vocal, como en lo inter-
pretativo.
55werther 1 year ago
Unmögliche Inszenierung!
kugelwuerfel 1 year ago
Unmögliche Inszenierung! Viel zu konkret! Die anderen (?) stehen nur dabei wie Gaffer bei einem Verkehrsunfall. Sind sie nun Beteiligte oder nur dummes Publium?
kugelwuerfel 1 year ago
The Chereau prod. SUCKS and is a travesty to Wagner's great libretto (luckily Boulez couldn't kill the immortal music). People what kind of taste do you have after giving this s--- a thumbs up?? Chereau set a disturbing trend of creating space invader/transvestite/victorian mansion/factory RINGS that we've had to deal with as viewers ever since! Yah, Let's go to the Opera and NOT escape reality, by all means. Lets not learn about medieval myths--but feel compelled to put them in factories!!
windstorm1000 1 year ago
@windstorm1000 Screw Chéreau's version, I just came back from David McVicar's version of the Götterdämmerung currently played at the Opera of the Rhine in Strasbourg, which is considerably better on almost any level.
deusirae76 1 year ago
@deusirae76 Hi, I am not against tasteful, dramatically relevant up renditions of the Ring--I trust that the one you went to was on that level? No Wotan as a fat cat industrialist or Brunnhilde as a street walker???
windstorm1000 1 year ago
@windstorm1000 Nothing like that, no "bourgeois" costumes or settings. McVicar's rendition is easily one of the best "Ring" of the decade, in Europe at least (he started the cycle 6 years ago, one opera every two years).
deusirae76 1 year ago
@deusirae76 That is good!! Still some taste left in this world, wonder of wonders!!
windstorm1000 1 year ago
@windstorm1000 I'm not sur if Wagner would have appreciated the use of samurai uniforms (for Hagen and his men in particular), but McVicar's version was truly great.
deusirae76 1 year ago
wowowow... I don't listen Wagner for moths sometimes but each time I rediscover him, I m really impressed... It s so grandiose!
simariato 1 year ago
Peter Jackson is way too healthy/epic for this brand of late German romantic neurosis this is pure BerlinAlexanderplatz FASSBINDER . He should have been invited to BAyreuth ! So 20th century is still greedy,neurasthenic,hyperhysteria ,over-stimulated.
lovesGenet 1 year ago
GUAAAAAUU es la primera vez que escucho un aria de wagner, es increiblemente dificil, el volumen, la potencia que hay que sostener, en un registro relativamente incomodo para cantar. IMPRESIONANTE. y la orquesta suena impresionante. sin palabras
juanmaplante 1 year ago
@juanmaplante, casi siempre es impresionante la orquesta ( y añádele la acústica ), es como los Berliners ( me refiero a los philarmonikers ), por supuesto
thewagnerworld 1 year ago
This production was SO controversial when it first appeared but our tastes have mellowed and matured as it now looks so intelligent and profound. Patrice Chereau created a production of genius.
metacarple 1 year ago
Simply amazing!
singinciaran 1 year ago
So proud she is form Wales. What a voice!
jamesaellis 1 year ago
i have been watching this for over 20 years and it is still my top favorite...thanks
wenarto 2 years ago 2
Very nice.
IanM1984 2 years ago
'Sometimes reality is so complex that we need myths and legends to see essence of human existence.'
.Jean Luc-Goddard Aplaville
Now that reality has become what was foretold in the myth Dubai - Capitalist Valhalla has fallen...
IrishClaudius 2 years ago 2
@IrishClaudius Capitalist Valhalla has fallen with the immolation of Afghanistan and Iraq!
caligulito1 2 years ago
@caligulito1 yes you are right
IrishClaudius 2 years ago 2
what?
URProductions 2 years ago
@IrishClaudius As conclusion: this is not to be bought for 100€. Right?
LordMgls 1 year ago
Class - pure class.
Stellavox 2 years ago
What happened to Alberich anyway? I was left feeling confused as to how the dwarf could be prevented from simply stealing the ring again. Can anyone explain this?
NotHomelessAnymore 2 years ago
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supihoney2 2 years ago
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Alberich transmits the desire to get the ring to his son Hagen in "Götterdämmerung" (Act 2, Scene 1). He taught him to hate and to seek revenge on his behalf. When Hagen dies, this "transmission" also dies.
Also when Brünnhilde gives back the ring to the rhinemaidens, she tells them to improve on looking after the ring, to "purer preserve your shining gold" so that ...
supihoney2 2 years ago
...the disaster doesn't happen again. Alberich could only steal the ring, because he and his dangerous attitude had been underestimated. It was a fault to tell him about the potential power of the ring. But this won't happen a second time.
Apart from that, the ending is open: it is possible that a new world order comes into existence. But the gold in the Rhine will always be there and tempting. Its threat lies within everybodys freedom to take it.
supihoney2 2 years ago
Interesting that Wagner originally had an incredibly upbeat ending then revised it to this open-ended parable about the ineffability of the future.
Salierethefish 2 years ago
No idea. It seems that revealing himself would have put him in too great a danger, and thus he had to manipulate his son into doing it for him.
Looking it up, I found some info of note: the French translation of the name (which literally means 'King of the Elves') is...Oberon.
Salierethefish 2 years ago
I think that he dies between Siegfried and Gotterdamerung, hence his need to appear in a dream and not in person
Horationelson4ever 1 year ago
Somptueux ! le Ring Chéreau-Boulez, une vision humaine et télurique avec un chef qui connait cette partition et sait la diriger ... à entendre et à re-entendre.
Blaquieres 2 years ago
her voice sends chills up my spine in a good way :)
KoalaBearWarrior 2 years ago
Onlookers: the boys in the pubs came out to see what all the ruckus was about. They didn't quite expect this.
erniesparks 2 years ago
The Death of Wall Street and the rise of Mainstreet
IrishClaudius 2 years ago
Truly glorious music -- and what a performance! But I doubt if the end of our world will be as beautiful and hopeful.
Faeribear08 2 years ago
Really? I think the Immolation scene will be what gives significance and glory to the end of the world. What was meaningless has been made glorious!
ConqueredSun 2 years ago
what a glorious sound! i know there are those that harp on the "screeching" and inconsistencies that may or may not be present in her singing at times, but the voice here was awesome and awe-inspiring. Brava!...
spinto12 2 years ago 3
I do not think her voice ever screeched.. it was the scooping and the wobbling that later kinda ruined her singing, and .. she was starting to wobble in 1980 too, especially in the middle and upper middle. Singing too big.
kgarmaker123 2 years ago
Das kleine rothaarige Mädchen rechts ist die Tochter von Gwyneth Jones - singt inzwischen selbst!
aigyptophilos 2 years ago
"Don't do it Brunnhilde!-Ah man she does that EVERY time"...But seriously WOW! shivers and tears as always. I am new to Gweyneth Jones but after this methinks I am her fan. Now all I need is the box set of DVDs!
wagnerfan1813 2 years ago 2
The Redemption by Love theme in the coda is one of Wagner's most beautiful creations.
lewars1912 2 years ago
I could never get used to Gwyneth Jones' wobbly vibrato. Interesting production. When it first appeared in 1976 it caused public outrage,with boos (and even fights) in the auditorium.
lewars1912 2 years ago
she is fearless! What a performer.
owenboi66 2 years ago 4
io adoro dame Gwyneth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
waltermontani 2 years ago 2
Despite any adverse criticism, I adore Dame Gwyneth's voice and her interpretations. Here, she manages to combine a voice of Wagnerian dimensions with a physical vulnerability which, in my opinion, has yet to be beaten after almost 33 years.
Otellogv 2 years ago 18
@Otellogv Jones may be 'off' here and there, but who isn't with Wagner? Her interpretations of the Wagnerian heroines: superb at every level!
rumpwrestler 1 year ago
@rumpwrestler I totally agree with you. There are/have been other great Wagnerians but, for me, there hasn't been anyone who has quite managed to combine the requisites to be an outstanding Wagnerian; vocal prowess, stamina and 1st rate characterisations. She always seems so believable on stage; how does she manage to get underneath the skin of every character and make us believe that she is actually Brunhilde/Sieglinde/Kundry/Senta, etc.? Truly amazing and one of the greatest performers.
Otellogv 1 year ago 2
@Otellogv She was stiil no match for Birgit Nilsson.
deusirae76 1 year ago
@deusirae76 This is now into difficult ground for me as I greatly admire both of these Wagnerians for different reasons; I have to reiterate that this is purely a personal opinion. Birgit Nilsson was one of the most thrilling and exciting singers - her Isoldes from Bayreuth are just out of this world - but, for me, she lacked Jones' warmth and compassion. Whereas, Jones captured the character's soul but did not always have the vocal security of Nilsson at her prime. Both excellent artists.
Otellogv 1 year ago
@deusirae76 Although, she did not sing Isolde (in its' entirity on stage) or continue with Brunhilde, Leonie Rysanek was another excellent Wagnerian, who shared many roles with Jones and Nilsson. Many Sieglindes have tried but I cannot look past Rysanek's interpretation here. I think of all three singers, Rysanek had the most thrilling upper register - those E flats/screams as Sieglinde or the end of Der Fliegende Hollander? Excellent stuff.
Otellogv 1 year ago
I viewed this particular production of the Ring cycle last week and of the four parts, I enjoyed the Walkure best of all.
Can you imagine what the Ring would look like if the director Peter Jackson were to film this?
SilentShooter53 2 years ago
I am not sure if I would like to see it ;-)
Trisolde 2 years ago 10
Me neither :S
wagnerfan1813 2 years ago
@Trisolde So true. Let's keep Mister Jackson where he thrives, in over the top films.
Capt777harris 1 year ago
@Trisolde I'd go with that too...
Music is the star... nothing else.......
Adirondaque 1 year ago
@Trisolde Me too
phbianchi1 1 year ago
Lord of the Rings - presumably )-:
owenboi66 2 years ago
That would be intresting. Hope it won't be like the LA Opera production which I heard was awful.
sirmercutio99 2 years ago
@SilentShooter53 I think it would suck as a movie. Leave it to the art it was made for.
deusirae76 1 year ago
@SilentShooter53 Please, take that stuff somewhere else. Maybe you and he could get together and make a Ring Cycle with Drew Barrymore and Brad Pitt, with the vocals from American Idol winners.
unclealand 9 months ago
@SilentShooter53 "Alberich wants the Precious!"
MrAdvancedAtheist 7 months ago
listen and learn james levine
rexeterna 2 years ago 2
where is grane??
rexeterna 2 years ago
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Dresdenftw 2 years ago
@rexeterna You asked where Grane was. He ran away when he began to realise what this crazy woman was going to do. Horses aren't stupid.
lewars1912 1 year ago
unbelievable
rexeterna 2 years ago
Mein Gnädiges Fräulein.....
CanisLupusSolitarius 2 years ago
Best Brunnhilde I have seen!
shonshu2 2 years ago
But surely not heard...
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Arindamrth 2 years ago
napakaganda ng interpretasyon na ito, ako ay nagulat sa kakaibang produksyon ng Ring
symyu 3 years ago 2
un eroe portato via come un sacco di patate!
un pò di rispetto diamine?!!!
cherno billy
abacous81 3 years ago
Excellent performance. Thanks. Dorothea:)
dorotheafayne 3 years ago 7
No shortage of hyperbole!
SPTN58 3 years ago
It is by far the best production and makes sense as 30 years of hyperpole of Wall Street burns before our eyes and mainstreet is left to fend for itself
IrishClaudius 3 years ago 2
Dame Gwyneth is amazing, as always; the conducting and the playing of the orchestra is inspired, and for once the orchestra doesn't cover the singers in this opera.
billyguns2 3 years ago 4
Right! She IS amazing singing! Her voice and its power is brilliant! BUT her pronounciation of German....hmm....i would say....it could be much better:P
But she is great!
Loge84 3 years ago
This ending... it goes straight into my bones! So beautiful afer all that dark and heavy music!
kurbiscremesuppe 3 years ago 3
remarkable musicianship and very clear phrasing... great costume and scenography... i didnt like that-fast, get out of my way, i must get that fire torch and throw it down! (gdoop) to burn... Valhalla? a bit naif
Lohengrin 3 years ago
I am not going to be called a faggot and just lay there and take it. You want to call me faggot, say it to my face! That's right Lohengrin, if you have the balls say it to my damn face. If NOT, then shut the hell up. Because I will be glad to show you just what this FAG can do.
hotazzoperastud 3 years ago 2
The Death of Wall Street and the Rise of Main Street - Boulez and Chireau (and G.B. Shaw)- were so right!
No one seeing this in New York would worry about the minor details it predicted the future we live through today!
IrishClaudius 3 years ago 3
this symbolism u think is quite obvious or Boulez have confirmed it in some of his interviews as well?
Lohengrin 3 years ago
Yes and not to your taste....
IrishClaudius 3 years ago
Where's her horse?
pac1984 3 years ago
Smae place where all the other production's Granes are: nowhere. I have yet to see a Ring which has horses (not horse skulls... not fake horses...) onstage.
Sieglinde84 2 years ago
It really won't work well, as it is not a horse show. Spectators would just watch the horses to see if they are naughty onstage and ignore the human actors. This is a place where back-projected movie might help.
erniesparks 2 years ago
I adore Gwyneth!Brünnhilde.
What I could never see is what exactly happens with Hagen in this? Does he just vanish in the darkness, or does he run into the fire?
Sieglinde84 3 years ago
gods died, the mob wins
camilocuesta 3 years ago
God Bless Astrid and Birgit. There IS a Valahalla in the afterlife, and Wagner himself conducts. These video excerpts are highly and intensely addictive. Starting at 6:51, I want to cross over. And the modulation at the end from minor to major slays me.
johngotwalt 3 years ago
The final modulation is oneof the greatest moments in the history of occidental music!!!!!Absolutely out of this world.
rrgallo 3 years ago
Astrid and Birgit? What the hell do they have to do with this clip of Gwyneth Jones? Nothing...that's what.
BeauTenor 3 years ago
Anybody in the house (Met) when Valhalla's central support beam came crashing down on Hilddegaard's head ?? Steve Brown, Stage Manager, are you listening ? WERE you listening ? Cane.
johngotwalt 3 years ago
Wirklich ein "Jahrhundert Ring", absolut sehr Gut!!! Von solch einer Inszinierung darf man sich hinreisen lassen! Sehr das Finale "Das Rheingold", einmal Loge sein dürfen....
PierreChemnitz 3 years ago
By God, that's the best Brünhilde I have ever seen. Awesome!
I'd like to have a funeral like that. Don't think I could get my wife would sing at it though.
elkriverharmonicas 3 years ago
not exactly. it's the end of the gods
flautist 3 years ago
...they fight in this world as their battleground.
jerzkid87 3 years ago
The way the cast at the very end turns around and faces the audience in silence is a master stroke of the highest order. The gods overreached, and self-destructed on jealousy and ambition. Responsibility for our species, the Earth, and perhaps for the entire universe if Frank Tipler is on to something, is now ours -- we being the spectators to the Ring, the greatest of all staged debacles.
alnot01 3 years ago 6
I just always get from her "Its all about being loud on high notes" but sometimes I'd prefer more line..yes even in Wagner. It just sounds to me like she has an incredible instrument that she never quite learned how to control completely.
jmahlon 3 years ago
Given that Gwyneth Jones had a significant early career singing Italian repertoire of the most technically demanding nature, it's absurd to suggest that she couldn't sing with legato or that her instrument was somehow not under control. She had a very big voice - she wouldn't be able not to sing big high notes when the music demanded but she could float them too. Big voices rarely record as well as they are experienced live - her huge success over many years says enough about her abilities.
Operataurus 3 years ago
I'd like more use of legato from her, but she's quite an animal
jmahlon 3 years ago
I think this is one of the best Ring's ever made! The Met's is very overrated
composerstar 3 years ago
Wow. I just finished watching the entire Boulez-Chéreau Ring on DVD, and I must say I am impressed. I can understand why the costumes/sets stirred up some controversy (even I would have preferred something more traditional), but the superb stage direction and attention to detail more than make up for those trifles. What energy!
Jones makes a stunning, convincing Brünhilde, both dramatically and vocally, and I feel this act is where she shines the most. Who cares about two or three missed notes?
Coasterguy11 4 years ago 2
the best production of 'der ring' ...directed of course by Patrice Chereau
falstaffffffffffff 4 years ago 2
Jones is one of the quintessential Brunnhildes ever!!! She had a voice that could KILL a bowl of goldfish, accorind to Anna Russell!!! Amazing!
godivapaw 4 years ago 2
Ms Jones is a bit overacting, but I was terrified... no need for sword nor horned helmet to make it clear she is a Walkyrie
beunt 4 years ago
This was a production conceived for the stage, rather than for film or TV. She is acting for the scale of the theatre - nothing too big from her. And, if I remember correctly, it is the end of the world!
Operataurus 3 years ago
After Nilsson, this is really the most solid performance I've heard in a while.
schicchi1160 4 years ago 2
Rita Hunter? Oh please no!!
fideliosmum 4 years ago
platero55: doesn't it all just start again? Isn't that the point of a cycle? doomed to repeat itself over and over through eternity, the ends and the beginings puncuated by an apocolypse, a "kalpa" in Sanscrit, an ending of one cycle and begining of the next.
As for this being "one of the most important scenes to the entire history of operatic music", I have read of many important musicians and opera critics who see Gotterdammerung as failingly overwrought, but I love it.
mirrorbob 4 years ago 2
I have no idea what her vocal state is these days (she is 70 after all). But, I bet she'll still be wonderful on stage either way.
BeauTenor 4 years ago
LOL....she stands MORE than a "chance". She's on a par with ANY dramatic soprano that ever lived. The woman's voice was monstrously big, and she was supremely athletic in the way she used it. Coupled with her obvious great commitment to the drama, you have an artist that is more complete than most, with a voice that could drown out just about anyone. That orchestra at Bayreuth didn't stand a chance.
BeauTenor 4 years ago 4
Ok I am going one heretical step further:
I would rather listen to Jones in her prime than Nilsson in hers any day of the week.
here is a reason why she still hasn't retired.
She hasn't been replaced.
This clip is just fantastic. I sat with my vocal score watching her nail each high note with ease. This talent is born, not built!
lovelymess 4 years ago
A completely overrated production.
A shame for Bayreuth. Wagner would turn over in his grave.
StuporMundi86 4 years ago
I have parts of this production. Isn't suppose to be the end of the industial age? The gods as bourgeois business people?
sirmercutio99 4 years ago
The opera's story is based on a nordic and german mythical saga. This means is purely symbolic, so it has a lot of levels of significance and multiple interpretations. What you are saying is just one of the meanings.
GiselleKan 4 years ago
I have always been astounded by this woman's voice.
Since I first heard her live in 1986, I have tried to see her again and again in anything I could.
Boy, do I feel lucky!!
CONTESTAR 4 years ago
In terms of dramatic impact, this is far and away the greatest account of the Immolation ever recorded. Nilsson and Flagstad were certainly more precise, but Jones' fiery commitment is astonishing. I'll take an imperfectly pitched note or two any day...
Chrysothemis 4 years ago
Understanding of drama becomes emotion. Free of any moral or ethical judgement. Thank You Wagner for such wonderful way to transmit the eternal message.
javiertzo 4 years ago
¡Really wonderful !
OPERMUSIK 4 years ago
I love Wagner. The three final minutes are apoteosic!
javierernestez 4 years ago
I have yet to see something that tops that!
This beautiful woman pouring out beautiful cavernous sounds... It is orgiastic.
After four days of an operatic saga you want to have a musical orgasm (HaHaHa!!) to reward you for being such a good boy, and this staging and singing does it. I am talking on an intellectual level of course... LOL
Gwyneth you are unique!
CONTESTAR 4 years ago
Musically Nilsson can't be touched. But Jones is arguably the best theatrical Brunnhilde (for singing and acting) and this entire Ring is one of the greatest staging ever. Watch it all the way through and be convinced.
blacklitetuk 4 years ago 2
no one beats nilsson in my mind, but gwyneth jones...it's great how she really does sound hysterical here.
mrnack 4 years ago 3
putos giris no me entero de nada
miquimym 4 years ago
That ending... amazing
meriomeri 4 years ago
Why is this a famous production? It's ridiculous. Looks like it's happening in some repressive communist regime... and there's no Grane? On top of that Jones makes mistakes!
Laeliapurpurata 4 years ago
I saw her sing this at the Met in rehearsals. They did the complete Götterdämmerung. I was thrilled. She came down to talk with a friend of mine. THEN!!! she had to rehearsal ALL of the music with the "other" tenor for that run. She was AMAZING!!!! And so nice as can be. She sounded equally engaged the second time around.
stevenwryan 4 years ago
Come si fa a non commuoversi ascoltando questa musica?
rwagner83 5 years ago
This lady does no wrong in my eyes. I also love her as Turandot.
DIVOTENOR 5 years ago
wasn't she something? wowee fantastico!
GABYCONSTANZA 4 years ago
Thanks for posting this. The music from the finale of the Ring Cycle has been with me since I was a child--many years before I even heard it, if you can believe that, so it means a lot to me to be able to see a theatrical depiction of it and to hear the spine-tingling strains of the Valhalla theme. Once again, thanks.
mrboombasticx 5 years ago
Same here... but we may have picked up on it from Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd... Oh Brunhilde, you're so wuvwy. Yes I know it, I can't help it:o). That was one of my favorite cartoons growing up, and it certainly introduced me to the ring cycle as it incorporated the whole darn thing!
urgrad03 5 years ago
Whew....Brunnhilde just doesn't get much better than that, Nilsson included (even though I know I'll be hassled for saying it). She just vaults that HUGE voice out into space. It's so....athletic.
BeauTenor 5 years ago
I agree. I do prefer Nilsson's cleaner attack, and easier way with producing high notes, but one cannot deny the visceral impact of Jones' performance.
Dymension 4 years ago
I'm watching it again, again, and again...
Brunnhilda 5 years ago