Fusion motherboard + apu costs 138euros, add memory, harddrives and power supply to that and you have under 300euro machine that can run DX11 games with lower resolutions, un-matching performance in its price range.
WOW THIS SI AMAZING a low-power gpu an integrated gpu RUNS Aliens vs. Predator 2010 WOW AMAZING,these game is needs high end configurations to run on even with low graphics WOW it's an integrated gpu "Zacate" or the AMD E-350 1.6GHz dual core, 18W chip with intergrated GPU 80 stream is low end WTF it's amazing that such a low end can run this game
will be interesting to see how the industry develops because this is obviously the future. However, a disadvantage to this is probably going to be upgrade-ability. Every time I will want to increase FPS I would need to buy a new one of these. How will an SLI type system work? Would that even be possible? Too early to tell of course but just stuff to think about.
@HDaviator Well, could you say same for "northbridge into cpu" merge? That would mean you will have to buy new motherboard every time you need new type of memory. But it does care that much.
And now, dont you purchase new discrete GPU card if you want more fps anyway? And it costs 100, 150, 250, 500? And you have to buy CPU as well!
I think the future will be a multisocketed, easy expandable motherboard and APUs with 1000-2000 small cores that work in SMP.
You don't need to necessarily purchase a new CPU if you wan't a better GPU, and you don't need another GPU to buy a better CPU. Eventually one of those components will become bottlenecked by the other, but you need to take into account that new GPUs are released almost every 2-3 months now. Its crazy. But I agree with you that this fusion technology will be the future. I just hope it still allows upgrade-ability like it does now, otherwise, the custom pc market will end.
No, no netbooks! Mainstream APU, mainstream! Perfomance of GPU and CPU in one chip! This thing is gona literally blow nvidia out of the market, together with its CUDA.
A chip where programmer has same instruction set for both CPU and GPU will be amazing!
Don't be so sure. Nvidia doesn't make CPUs but they have a pretty strong partnership with Intel. Knowing what Intel is capable of, I see an nvidia/Intel APU. Given the AMD performance vs intel, I would be willing to bet Intel/Nvidia would make faster products like they have always done. This technology is still years away. I bet Intel has something up their sleeves. And that is good, because competition always creates better products. I would hate it if AMD had monopoly and viceversa.
@HDaviator Yes, Im same about monopoly. And exactly this is one of reasons Intel+Nvidia will not happen(ie. FTC). Also, Intel LOVES opensource, nvidia NOT.
But I saw nvidia eating companies, not AMD.
3dfx, agea, pace soft silicone, portalplayer, rayscale, countless small companies before geforce era.
It is a company with agressive expansion(iNvidia means envy, greed in italian; and nvidia logo once had "envy" in it).
AMD has hold ATI sign for sooo long, even know they name the crew - ATI.
yes, nvidia means envy. But I don't think its meant to be taken literally. You need to understand that Nvidia is a business. Its there to make money and they will do whatever they can to make it, the same with AMD. The reason why AMD has held on to the ATi name is because of branding in their products. ATi is a well established brand and it would have been foolish to just eliminate it. But AMD has since eliminated the brand with their new line of GPUs that just came out.
@HDaviator Any company is to make money. Im talking about corporate policy here, nvidia is incredibly egoistic, but they do make good hardware. AMD on the contrary seem to unable to focus, they do opensource, but at same time do it limited. They do produce new chips, but at same time they cut driver support much earlier than nvidia. Amd did not eliminate the brand, unlike what nvidia did (did not) to 3dfx; ati stays red, amd stays green.
Fusion motherboard + apu costs 138euros, add memory, harddrives and power supply to that and you have under 300euro machine that can run DX11 games with lower resolutions, un-matching performance in its price range.
Phuga85 10 months ago
WOW THIS SI AMAZING a low-power gpu an integrated gpu RUNS Aliens vs. Predator 2010 WOW AMAZING,these game is needs high end configurations to run on even with low graphics WOW it's an integrated gpu "Zacate" or the AMD E-350 1.6GHz dual core, 18W chip with intergrated GPU 80 stream is low end WTF it's amazing that such a low end can run this game
marianxtreme 1 year ago
will be interesting to see how the industry develops because this is obviously the future. However, a disadvantage to this is probably going to be upgrade-ability. Every time I will want to increase FPS I would need to buy a new one of these. How will an SLI type system work? Would that even be possible? Too early to tell of course but just stuff to think about.
HDaviator 1 year ago
@HDaviator Well, could you say same for "northbridge into cpu" merge? That would mean you will have to buy new motherboard every time you need new type of memory. But it does care that much.
And now, dont you purchase new discrete GPU card if you want more fps anyway? And it costs 100, 150, 250, 500? And you have to buy CPU as well!
I think the future will be a multisocketed, easy expandable motherboard and APUs with 1000-2000 small cores that work in SMP.
lin545 1 year ago
@lin545
You don't need to necessarily purchase a new CPU if you wan't a better GPU, and you don't need another GPU to buy a better CPU. Eventually one of those components will become bottlenecked by the other, but you need to take into account that new GPUs are released almost every 2-3 months now. Its crazy. But I agree with you that this fusion technology will be the future. I just hope it still allows upgrade-ability like it does now, otherwise, the custom pc market will end.
HDaviator 1 year ago
As a programmer can't wait to have this beast
dikygitu 1 year ago
No, no netbooks! Mainstream APU, mainstream! Perfomance of GPU and CPU in one chip! This thing is gona literally blow nvidia out of the market, together with its CUDA.
A chip where programmer has same instruction set for both CPU and GPU will be amazing!
lin545 1 year ago
@lin545
Yer having an APU will give better results. It losses the bridge between CPU-GPU so giving better performance
wispa1a 1 year ago
@lin545
Don't be so sure. Nvidia doesn't make CPUs but they have a pretty strong partnership with Intel. Knowing what Intel is capable of, I see an nvidia/Intel APU. Given the AMD performance vs intel, I would be willing to bet Intel/Nvidia would make faster products like they have always done. This technology is still years away. I bet Intel has something up their sleeves. And that is good, because competition always creates better products. I would hate it if AMD had monopoly and viceversa.
HDaviator 1 year ago
@HDaviator Yes, Im same about monopoly. And exactly this is one of reasons Intel+Nvidia will not happen(ie. FTC). Also, Intel LOVES opensource, nvidia NOT.
But I saw nvidia eating companies, not AMD.
3dfx, agea, pace soft silicone, portalplayer, rayscale, countless small companies before geforce era.
It is a company with agressive expansion(iNvidia means envy, greed in italian; and nvidia logo once had "envy" in it).
AMD has hold ATI sign for sooo long, even know they name the crew - ATI.
lin545 1 year ago
@lin545
yes, nvidia means envy. But I don't think its meant to be taken literally. You need to understand that Nvidia is a business. Its there to make money and they will do whatever they can to make it, the same with AMD. The reason why AMD has held on to the ATi name is because of branding in their products. ATi is a well established brand and it would have been foolish to just eliminate it. But AMD has since eliminated the brand with their new line of GPUs that just came out.
HDaviator 1 year ago
@HDaviator Any company is to make money. Im talking about corporate policy here, nvidia is incredibly egoistic, but they do make good hardware. AMD on the contrary seem to unable to focus, they do opensource, but at same time do it limited. They do produce new chips, but at same time they cut driver support much earlier than nvidia. Amd did not eliminate the brand, unlike what nvidia did (did not) to 3dfx; ati stays red, amd stays green.
lin545 1 year ago
A good showing but ought to have focused on lower resolutions like those netbooks normally use instead of 1080P
Zachstar2000 1 year ago