Quake Live Bridge to Rail Explained

[KILLERat1]

I meant to also say back when it came out it wasn't called Strafe jumping, it's actually called Circle-Strafe Jumping because you have to move your crosshair in a kind of semi circle, starting from bottom right at the beginning of a jump, looking slightly down, then moving up toward the center (meeting it at the peak of the jump) then moving it down toward the left as you land, but not straight there, like a semi circle. This was for a left circlestrafejump.

[KILLERat1]

It's how the engine works, also if you look up you go higher, but slower, down you move faster but drop faster.

[jrapantera]

this is a great tutorial

[VivaLaVida332]

I FUCKEN DID IT! I DID THE B2R JUMP TODAY! FEELS SO FUCKEN GOOD! LIKE WHAT THE TOP COMMENT SAID! :)

[FatherTuck]

This is so hard to learn... it's driving me crazy. :)

[Beghty27]

I have tried this jump hundreds of times on the practice map and still cant do it. I get close....really fucking close...but i just can't muster anymore momentum

[simpliction]

@Beghty27 I got same situation for months, believe me it was because of I was moving mouse very slow. Just try to make first jump, with much faster mouse movement. It will work I promise :)

[superahle]

THANKS :D

[RaniaIsAwesome]

@theat This is one of the hardest jumps to pull off in any videogame, so I don't think you should say it should be easy to learn. As others have pointed out, your own videod jump is quite clumsy, and I doubt are able to pull it off reliably.

[noobyvids3]

wow i thought this jump was hard

but then i realized that if you hold space midair you are sucking out your speed!

i can do it easily now

[massi4h]

@noobyvids3 Exact same here. I couldn't do it at all, but now from reading your comment I've realised I always hold down jump to get an instant bunny hop, but damn I did it first try now.

[easiertolie99]

Melodious is right. This guy is doing the jump very sloppily. Not much mouse turning which Gives the player more acceleration. I'm positive he wouldn't have made the same jump in quake3 client with that technique. Id must have changed the physics and made strafing a little easier in quakelive for the kiddies

[borabosal]

@easiertolie99 lol maybe. I'm kinda glad though, strafejumping isn't exactly common, and not all of us want to dedicate ~20 years to a game just to play at a semi competitive level ;)

[geoffreyefloyd]

@easiertolie99 hed be fine in q3, everyone has to adjust to the physics...i played ql for 2 years and went back to q3 after not playing for years and it took maybe 10-15 tries to get it right again.

[geoffreyefloyd]

@easiertolie99 its just a matter of practicing the jumps with the speedometer on so u can see how moving ur mouse gives u speed.

[easiertolie99]

Yep, once you master it, you dont forget it. Sorta like your first time rising a bike. I think I was at 90 percent success rate or higher before I quit quake. Now if you really want a challenge, start doing it backwards. Only 10-20 success in q3 before I gave up on the jump. I think fatality told me he was doing it 50percent of the time !

[ryder187mac]

Just made this jump for the first time, then repeated it consistently. Feels fucking good.

[iStormville]

Most cracked out song ever.

[emotapata]

izi

[kragle2008]

i can do it in DeFrag on Q3 but in live? the strafe is not good really bad infact, a standard Run in defrag is an absolute mission in QLive... cold run is very hard where as the first leap you dont even need to double jump at the start, you need one clean strafe onto the platform, with live its like you JUST about make it to the first platform.. i dont get how you did this..

[h5q]

1 jump in cpma only or is there any chance do this in quake livee ??

[tracybrauer]

Still need help here... dont quite know what im doing wrong... i walk forward i hit strafe and turn the camera* in that order.... wth!

[sleepyatnoon]

@tracybrauer hi,3 days into ql. i did it like this: on the practice map take 3rd lane. run diagonally (forward+strafe left). when jumping twitch the mouse left.keep holding forward+left until you land,center mouse, then change to right strafe+jump+twitch mouse right simultaniously. repeat and slightly increase mouse angle with every jump. hold the strafe as long as possible and only tip jump.keep in mind this timing isnt actually right but enough to do the practice course.

[tracybrauer]

I still cant get the strafe nor circle jump.;.. i need help!!!!

[tracybrauer]

I still cant get the strafe nor circle jump.;.. i need helmp!!!!

[davidreefer]

what is your advice for ppl who use a high mouse sensitivity? I'm imitating what i see and I either jump clear off the bridge on the first jump or fall short of the rail on the second. On good jumps i get close but still no.

[boredbyondblieve]

i your were me . ill make a movie doing this backwards ;) nooob

[larssaxz]

As people said before me, the most important thing is not the keypresses, it's the mouse movement. I sat swearing with this jump for about 40 minutes before I noticed that I made it if I moved my mouse a little faster ^^. Also, the timing when you should start moving the mouse, and the timing when you jump is crucial ^^. Good video anyways!

[fatezor]

It's important to point out that you should have your fps capped at 120. You really want to get a good swing on the strafe jump too, it's quite possible to do the bridge -> rail jump without having to land on the little gray corner piece.

[robertputneydrake]

great music, forget everything else, even the game.

[DieDooie]

@Jauffriarello

watch this video

Quake Live Strafe Jumping Experiments

it might give u hope :')

[melodiousMO]

ok, let me correct myself. he didn't do it right in the first jump, but later does it somewhat correctly. but they don't explain the mouse movement. and how important it is. the mouse movement is EVERYTHING for strafejumping.

if you wanna learn movement, play q3 defrag or warsow race. it's basically the same thing. you can even play the same maps. it's fun. many different kind of maps, like climbing maps, strafejump maps with hindrances, rocket maps...

everyone who loves quake should try it

[sample2501]

@melodiousMO hmm, vq3 movement is a little different to QL. just dl raz3rs training map for QL^^ it's somewhere in the QL forums. strafelanes and many jumps in there

[melodiousMO]

the dude in this video doesn't do it right. good god. i first had to play warsow in order to understand how strafejumps really work. i always wondered why all these tutorial vids didn't work for me... now it's obvious. they don't teach the strafejump correctly AT ALL.

they are forgetting the most important part: you gotta slowly move the mouse into the same direction you're pressing the strafe button. cause this is what actually causes most of the acceleration - THE MOUSE MOVEMENT!

[Reader90909]

@melodiousMO I can strafe already but thx for the heads up

[carsonma2013]

this is the kind of vid that noobs need, for mainly sj and rj, with both the keyboard hud, and the explanation, cuz while there are some people who can strafe and rocket jump, they arent exactly profficient at it, and they cant either get as high or gain as much speed as they are actually able

[Cl4ymat1oN]

I can do it without the corner. :P

[mackan289]

I did it !!!!

thank you i know i am a year late but thank you for maknig this vid !!!

[miksulder]

takes freaking long to learn how to get there properly

[heaheaheaa]

wow perfect explained :O

[bustaballs]

I've tried approx 1000 times and I still can't do it even after studying these videos. I have no clue what I'm doing wrong.

[davidreefer]

@bustaballs me too. I'm at a loss to understand what im not doing or doing wrong.

[Meatwad799]

Thanks for the vid. Finally helped a dumb ass realize to aim for that little thing on the ledge.

[Adriankowalczewski]

just made it

[onanz666]

thx so much. problem solved. it really explained how to do it. no problems anymore. ty

[longvos]

omggg thanks is to ezy now!



[thebestwaytodie]

that's the best tutorial how to strafe i've ever seen :D

good job man, good job

[L3ki113r]

im noob i love this game

[Sexytime0mad]

this jump is exactly the same as level 3 round 3 in strafe jump training

[MoogledKupo]

my tip: make sure you're jumping slightly diagonally

[longvos]

dude ur da best

[DeadFail]

i cant do this. i do everything like in the vid but i just cant fucking make it across the damn traing area jump to rail.

[KittenIgnition]

@DeadFail the training one is longer than the dm6 one.

[r4mmsteinnn]

Thx for the video could do the jump after 5 tries ;-)

[Zarcan92]

Ohh, nvm, found it, sorry. :<

[Zarcan92]

What's the song name??

[baudilus]

@Eraser: yes.

[Eraser881]

Can it be done in normal Quake 3?

[NovaReaper]

@Eraser881 nope strafe jumping is impossible in quake 3

[samko19966]

thx now its very easy to get there without rocket jump =]

[articfigure]

the noobs gotta know how to be pros

[czilitio]

Can't be done

[juankarloselmasiso]

i did once but i was lucky and try to do it again like 100x and never did it again :(

[EdwardCletusKasidy]

@juankarloselmasiso

Practice. Practice. Practice. I also did it by luck on the first try but I kept at it and now can do it more times than I fail.

[Darkheroeslord]

How do you put on the arrow keys?

[KrischaMcBong]

i got it :D

thank you very much

[kay486]

what are the ups for the first jump?

[seilavelevant]

@kay486 about 480 or so

[miksulder]

i get there like 1/20

[kanzosupremo]

whats the difference between redux and campgrounds

[DangerWhales]

@kanzosupremo Redux is just the Quake Live version; the pentagram is removed, some powerups are changed, and the textures are slightly altered.

[antiunis]

how do u accelerate so quikly ?

[FinalFantasyXXVI]

@antiunis circle jump

[bhanbagta]

I tried to learn this for an hour before watching this vid. Two minutes after watching I succeeded, and I shall never be unhappy again. So... thanks!

[Dav1dddddddddd]

Great vid, any chance you could explain rail to bridge? Despite it being a lot easier than b2r I, I don't know where to start jumping in order to hit the edge of the rail perfectly so i suck at it :[

Great explanation though!

[RScottie78]

Thanks for the advice - makes it look almost possible :)

Beautiful song too - who is it?

[iamVERYrandom]

Roy Harper - Hors d'Oeuvres

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[RScottie78]

Nice one

[RyanJRA64Abella]

I can do this jump fine but sometimes I hit that DAMN COLUMN on the side =D.

[buglersmokes]

Flame all noobs. The quake community has been doing fine with the players it has for some time. Noobs come and go. If you want to learn, defrag and resources are there. Most ppl dont have the patience. The ones that do will be stronger for the abuse they endured while learning.

[erikvanzanen]

excellent explaination! now i know what i do wrong

[gamer12362]

How do you do it if you use the arrow keys and the mouse1 to shoot? That's what I use.

[aytech03]

thx for good work theat. there's not much explained in in-game tut

[luiohh]

in quake 3 i spent countless hours practicing, i mean trying this jump. i NEVER made it :(

[XLPoker]

it depends what your current skill level is in strafe jumping. That determines where you need to start your cj from

[klaasklapper]

question: is QL still fps dependent as Q3 was? I remember in Q3 the best setting for me was fps @ 125 (I quess in 2002).

[Emiins]

You dont need 125 fps in order to have perfect control and better strafe, jumps, etc as in Q3. They fixed that.

But of course 125 fps is needed for smoother movement.

[Gerrrry]

Thanks. Made it after watching your vid. :)

[Gerrrry]

In about 3 shots I should add. Previously I'd been trying for a very long time and just couldn't get it.

Things I learnt were....

1. You must go right up to the wall before making the first circle jump.

2. Turn 90° so that you start heading in the right direction before you jump the first time.

Thanks again!

[querschnitt]

so, i have to switch from left to right before the second jump???  i allways switched after i did the second jump

[mujmujmuj]

Heh i only play clan arena so i dont really have to learn this :) Quake live/Q3 is the shit tho

[EntTheGod]

idk why ppl think its so hard... its a basic jump and easier in quakelive than vq3 because of the faster acceleration o.O

if you cant do it, i suggest you practice your circle jumps

[amjwUK]

this jump is just so fucking annoying...

[GJRik]

I...just cant do it

[joocrazyman455]

keep practicing,it took me about 3/4 hours of practice to do it,you'll get it once,then you keep trying for ages then you might get it two times,then you might be doing it more often until it comes naturally to you.

[Junker23009]

You can do iiiit!

[cokoladen]

you must be dumb as fuck, movement is everything in all previous quakes, so its here..

[Junker23009]

Wth is vq3?

[Junker23009]

Dont hate the noobs, we need noobs (newcomers) to keep the game alive....Help them, dont hate and dont mock them, i try not to :)

[notuern]

@Junker23009

Exactly, that used to be the good old attitude among quakers: Love the noobs, dont hate them.

Thats why me and allot of other Quakers i know despised Counter Strike so much, because everyone started bashing the noobs and blamed the pro's for cheating.

[bboybram]

@Junker23009

You're right we all started as noobs

[P0RtalMan]

I get the feeling that you can't remember when you started playing Quake...I don't care how long you've been playing, but many people, such as myself, have trouble with the concept of SJing. From the way you talk, I can tell you've had your head up your ass waaay too long; you're a piece of shit.

[P0RtalMan]

We all had to start somewhere. I see where you're coming from. Since you've been playing from the beginning, you've mastered it. It took me a while, but I've got it to the point where I can do well, but I'm far from great. In fact, when I coume off a Quake based game, to, say, TF2, I end up going through the motions of it with no effect, or I'm so slow, even the noobs can headshot me. I practice most every day, and I'm getting better. I probably won't see you in game.

[can3x]

Gee! Guess my life is fucked up, now that I missed playing Quake from the beginning of time...

[Smaejdah]

"Require more skill" haha:D your funny ;)

[NoWaiBoss]

lol gamingnazi

[dannehbai]

how do i get this hud to work? it says add a line to autoexec.cfg but i dont have that file :s

[eae314]

just create the file and put the line n it :D

[asdfme]

Could you make a video of the bridge to rail going backwards? As in from the rail gun to the bridge. I'm having problems with that.

[themuckyman]

nice vid

[ajochum]

fucking awesome

[emocelot]

still cnt fucking do it..

[Cindywong2000]

My greatest respect to the greatest shooter engine ever made.

[pseudomomentum]

Hail John Carmack.

[beanwithbacon]

Why??? For ruining 2 of the greatest series in the history of gaming? Doom 3 was garbage, had awful slow gameplay, boring as hell level design and some of the absolute worst noob friendly mplayer ever. Quake has gotten more and more simplified with each sequel. QuakeLive is the most simplistic game in the series, it takes the least amount of movement and aim skill and has the least amount of strategy of any Quake game, fuck Carmack for caring about profit more than making a good game.

[Preddykins]

Love the fact that beanwithbacon's complaining about a free game that plays pretty much exactly like the classic from 1998. I lol'd.

[EntTheGod]

beanwithbacon... if you dont like em, dont play em :) id suggest cpma because its more complex than all the rest but honestly i dont want to see you in game, ever

you come across as too much of a jack ass

[weetsie]

I CANT DO IT

[Zipknob]

You'll have more success if you hold +left for a fraction of a second before starting the turn into circle jump. For turn angles less than 90 degrees it's not necessary (or beneficial).

Performed well you can do this jump without landing on the small triangle in the corner. If you can do that you've pretty much mastered circle jumping.

[phadedlife]

no shit, but thats not the point.

[Squilibrio85]

-_-

[P0RtalMan]

The idea of B2R is to do it *without* the RL. Or the GL. Same for PG. All you should need is a mouse and keyboard.

[nrico007]

Perfect tutorial!

I can't do it, but I tried to follow your instructions and tried to jump many many times. :/

In defrag I did it sometimes, but i think it was an accident. So...

PLS HELP!!! :)

[christooss]

I have now sucessfully jumped this gap many times! I think I got the hang of it :)

HF

[ttttjohntttt]

I DID IT

[drplbiftin]

Roy Harper and his album Stormcock rules! So does Quake Live.

[sathomaso]

Great tuturial video, lots of tips included.

Thanks a bunch! :)

[Polverisr]

thanks so much theat. i didnt know you have to quickly strafe right just before landing the Circle Jump. :D

[christooss]

Damn I managed to lucky jump this gap once. I think the second jump is just as important as CJ. Cause I miss rail cause I decelerate in second jump. Transition from CJ to strafe is hard :P

[WestIsOnFire]

thats where i struggle

[hansonkewl06]

can someone also make a video to explain how to do the strafe jump from the sidewalk to the railgun ledge on q3ctf2?

[jope1984kiel]

thx. hope i can make it soon

[HOLYpt]

great movie :> u r0x :>

[snaerdi]

Good job, this'll propably help many newbies. 5*