@ObieG93 ok im not looking to start the whole bosing vs mma debate......but WTF would manny even want to? hes at the top of the game in boxing....is getting older and would take years to leanr/ be competitive...all it would take is someone like a randy couture to takedown smash his head in and submit him. just saying. Manny is still awesome tho and i love watching him fight
@rdsrds1000 Because Sylvia sucks. Sylvia stood up with Mercer for some reason. Do you know Kimbo Slice submitted ray mercer in an MMA match? Nobody brings that up...
I'm a boxing fan, not so much an MMA fan but I still respect ALL fighters. They put their lives at risk every time they step into the octagon or the squared circle. With that said, James Toney is a fucking idiot. LOL. He has been irrelevant in boxing for years. His fat old ass is a chump. LOL. I knew he was going to get destroyed by Couture....glad he did. Also, any boxer would get destroyed inside the octagon just as much as any MMA fighter would get destroyed inside the boxing ring.
I'm watching a fight right now where the UFC fighter with superior boxing skills is killing the UFC fighter without. In fact the UFC fighter using boxing skills has just knocked out the UFC fighter who is using kicks & take downs. When he switched from kicks and take down attempts to boxing he began dominating. This is what would happen if a boxer trained a year to defend against take downs and kicks, the boxer would dominate & knockouts would be common!
@RoadDemon9 thats the diffrence between toney and couture is couture wasnt fighting this fight for the money but for the pride of mma as a sport and what are boxers over paid thugs who cant hack it in a real fight !
@MegaMma4life Good point, it still pisses me off considering all the sacrifices these real fighters make and as a fan I'd like to see them get paid as much as possible.
@MegaMma4life but dude problem with mma fighters is that there is no fighter like for example james toney or mike tyson or any champ that can reign for long time u got too much mma fighters and they are changing at the top and if they lose 2 in a row they are cut from organisation that is why
@TheDomy23 thats becasue if u notice in boxing the best fighters dont fight eachother in mma the best fighters fight eachother 3 times a year !!!! and no if you lose 2 in a row you arent gone unless you look like garbage in thoughs 2 fights then yea
@TheDomy23 i def think its harder to be a mma fighter for the fact that you have to know more you cannot go into a fight just knowing one aspect of fighting plus wrestling is a hell of alot harder then boxing would ever be but i also think that the days of big name boxers who people would want to see fight are over after mayweather and pacman retire mma still has a ways to go but they should def make more then 250k thats a joke
@MegaMma4life nah its not harder to be an mma fighter,and if u are training it u should know,because average training before a fight for mma fighter is 6 months and to become a an average boxer u need to train for 2 years,just look on matt mitrione or jon jones he is training mma for 3 years i think and look at him he is world class and title contender so no boxing is much harder to train u have an cro cop interview where he says it he was an amateru boxer so he knows believe me
@TheDomy23 yes it is harded to me a mma fighter you have to know more aspects on fighting crocop was a kick boxer which is harded then straight up boxer but still bjj is alot more technical then boxing i think but whatever its a opinion thing wrestling is harder on your body you need to be in better shape to but like i said after mayweather and pacman retire you wont see them making that m uch anymroe !!! boxing is a dieing art
@MegaMma4life nope dude u are wrong i have trained muay thai now i am training boxing i know boxing is harder to lear then muay thai more combos more punches as i said cro cop said who is mma legend that boxing is much harder,plus u have 10 rounds in boxing with much more punches to receive and what i meant and forgot to write it to u when u train mma u learn basics of wrestling bjj kickboxing boxing u cant master any of them that is why its easier to be an mma fighter
@TheDomy23, you learn the basics in mma? The fighters are continously evolving in each area and are doing more advanced stuff all the time and are trying to master as much as they can. And what is mastering one of them for you? There are guys who are world champions in bjj competing in mma. Olympic wrestlers who compete in mma. Top kickboxers who compete in mma. There are a lot of guys who have great stand up and are bjj black belts. But they only know the basics despite being bjj black belts?
@Bearthoughts LOL dude?now u look stupid really,as i said new generation of mma fighters which are training mma,not olympic wrestlers not kickboxers not boxers not old school mma fighters like cro cop tell me in new wave of younger fighters and by that i mean look on fighter like jon jones,tell me what did he master?can he stand up with a kickboxer?a real one for example like cro cop?or can ryan bader beat shogun?
@TheDomy23, hmm it seems I missed some point in your previous posts. As for Jones and Bader, you do realise that they are wrestlers, right? Jones is a junior college national champion in greco roman wrestling. He could have gone olympic if he would have wanted to make the sacrifice (in time/training) for it. Bader is another good wrestler. Jones also has an amazing athletic ability and is a quick and hungry learner. As far as mastering goes,it depends on what you mean. You can always get better.
@Bearthoughts nah just look it like these in modern day,u have new martial art called mma,so people arent training first wrestling then come to mma,they start as mma fighters and when u train just mma u cant master any martial art u know basic and medicore from for example kickboxing or muay thai,wrestling bjj u cant be jiu jitsu master if u are mma fighters in new days its hard to get black belt if u didnt start with jiu jitsu i dunno 10 years ago but yes depends on a fighter
@TheDomy23, it ranges from fighter to fighter as you said. Some guys do pick up on grappling alarmingly quick. Jiu-jitsu also seems to come pretty natural for guys with wrestling backgrounds. Some of the younger guys who pick up mma also, due to their age, have a lot of time to evolve. And when there's a young natural talent picking up a sport, they tend to evolve at an extreme rate, same goes for mma. But it requires proper work ethic as well as raw talent.
@MegaMma4life but still i love both of sport and respect all fighters because i know how hard is to train every day and give up from 90 percent of ur private life
@MegaMma4life pure boxing (not boxing in mma) is a very technical sport. In fact most fighters in mma arent BOXING, they are just punching and that is not very technical. I would say that pure boxing is just as technical as bjj
@TheRozza333 is just as technical as a bjj huh no brother in bjj theres alot more going on buddy good opinion but def wouldnt say that its a lot harder to put someone in a submission then to punch someone in the face
@MegaMma4life but u cant pay all fighters with that amount of money dude its not serious and realistic just look how many organisations in mma there are they would all finish like PRIDE FC in bankrupcy u see the gate from last ufc?4 million dollars lol,and boxing take for example manny pacquiao and margarito fight had gate over 100 million so dont say that pls boxing is an art mma fighter can be anynone with little training
@RoadDemon9 eh..i guess it makes sense? they were both over paid..all professional athletes are over paid..but thats another point..but for randy it was a 0 risk fight so it makes sense hes paid less
@RoadDemon9 eh..i guess it makes sense? they were both over paid..all professional athletes are over paid..but thats another point..but for randy it was a 0 risk fight so it makes sense hes paid less
@RoadDemon9 Waht? he got paid 500,000? That's bulshit in this economy you can't afford to suck in any job. Foney asked for the wrong job, he got it, he sucked as a mf. he's lucky he got paid at all what was dana thinking. Randy promissed he will shut a running mouth, he delivered so he gets paid like the boss. Only takedown defence Toney had was to tap as soon as the bell rings and he did not use it. So Im smarter than Toney and i dont get paid 500,000 thats bullshit
james tony sounds like a dumbass during his interviews about this fight he sounded like a retard "dkfnodjoskdmfcksdnlksdkldflkjdsf" been knocked in the head to much
@mrblack87able LOL. I don't get people saying it wasn't exciting... it was beautiful to watch frankie transition so smoothly between striking, and wrestling against BJ PENN!... shame people can't appreciate that.
@LuqmanNaq bro, i just checked out some PRIDE fights. thanks. your right, this is exactly what i've been wanting to see.so many styles represented and it's not a bunch of wrestling. too bad it's defunct. but i heard DREAM is the new pride. hopefully it takes off.
@whatevamang Yeah Pride was awesome. I hope Dream takes off but I can't see it personally, marketing and money is with the UFC. :-(. Check out this incredible tribute to Pride; /watch?v=HoHZpNX9nQc
i don't even see why people compare boxing to mma. it's pointless to argue which is better because the only thing they have in common is a ring and a canvas mat. the rules of combat sports determine everything and since mma is mostly wrestling a boxer won't do well. Neither would a wrestler do well in a boxing match. it's like forcing an nfl athlete to play soccer. apples and oranges.
Real life is facing 6 hoodies with broken bottles. Not grappling with 1 guy. The floor is the last place you wanna be. Run, if u have to strike and run. For this Boxing is far superior for survival on the streets.
@dromezz If they didnt take james toney down to the ground do you honestly think he would have won? This shit is all set up so fans of gay mud wrestling could watch their favorite sport. I feel that if a guys intention is the mud wrestle you to the ground and sit on ur chest ,, u should be able to hit him in the throat or in the eyes.
@dromezz You sound like someone who doesn't understand sarcasm. I am calling the UFC mud wrestling. because you people enjoy watching two grown men roll around the floor for 10 hours.
@dromezz Yeah but when they clinch, The ref breaks it up, They dont just hug each other for 3 hours. What you say doesnt even make sense. in the UFC they clinch ON THE FLOOR. for like the whole friggin match.. How is that entertaining?
@Guinea54 they hug all the time for 12 rounds thats all i see when the blitckos fight wen floyd fights. they also try to ground n pound and submit. mma requires more skill and endurance
@dromezz Ground and pound is classless, The entire sport is classless. If you are around to ground and pound someones face in or knee them in the head, than tactics used in other martial arts like kung fu should be allowed. Why not? Why stop there. If some guy whos huge got on my chest, i only have a couple of options, Try to hit him in the throat to crush his wind pipe or do an eye gouche, or rip his ball sack off. in the street u would do whatever u could.Not lay there and take a beatin
@dromezz Punching is two dumbasses swinging. Boxing is two technical athletes testing their skills. Its like bjj, its sooooo technical. If you thought that you could go into a boxing ring and 'just swing' then you would get out classed by a decent boxer. You would get countered after every swing and they would just take advantage of every single mistake and opening you make for them.
@Guinea54 dude seriously both sports are great and entertaining. mma is an evolution of boxing, it IS boxing and then more. both sports require tactics and quick thinking. what do u really have against mma? im ready to hear ur argument if ur ready to hear mine
@Guinea54 That' my biggest issue I have with MMA. It ends up being a wrestling match and not much else. boring. they should limit the amount of time on the ground or give scores for take-downs but break it up the same way they pull apart locked up boxers. the whole sport would change and it wouldn't be wrestler dominated anymore. the rules don't allow fighters real ways to get out of grapples. This is why so few effective martial arts are represented in mma.
@whatevamang EXACTLY! Wow there is someone with a fucking brain out there. amazing. I couldn't agree with you more. I am no fighting expert by any means, but when I was young I studied in kung fu. And ALOT of the shit they were teaching would not be allowed in MMA. We did a lot of stuff on how to finish fights quickly for self defense or how to get an attack off of you by throat strikes eye strikes ear strikes. temple strikes. etc.
@Guinea54 many of those things were allowed in original vale tudo and early UFC... but you didn't see kung fu guys dominating. (you can strike to the temple)... Also check out pride rules where you could knee, stomp and kick your opponent when they were on the ground.
@LuqmanNaq Just cause some idiots say they know kung fu doesnt mean anything. most of the people who studied it for decades don't compete in these type of events, they only compete within their own tournaments. and the strikes in kung fu are throat strikes, eye strikes and strikes that deal with an attacker on the street, not a full contact sport.
@Guinea54 the 'no true scotsman' argument. Kung fu guys had the opportunity to dominate when there were minimal rules in the early days of vale tudo and the UFC - they didn't. If your kung fu is about street fighting then ok.. but I'd personally rather have a functional skill set that i can practice agaisnt a resisting opponent, over one that I can't (throat strikes, etc) they may be effective but I trust what I've practiced. Check out the video 'words of wisdom pt1' to understand.
@LuqmanNaq THe thing people dont understand about some systems in kung fu. If I went and studied boxing and BJJ for 3 years, i probably would have a much better benefit than if i studied kung fu for 3 years. Kung fu is not as practical because it takes too much time to get decent at it. Just the training on your hands takes about a decade and that is no exaggeration. People study artful kungfu styles that look great for a few years, and claim to be kung fu masters.
@LuqmanNaq There hasn't been any real kung fu masters involved. If you go to China town in nyc and try and convince any of the real masters there to fight in something like the UFC they would scoff at you. It is not because they would go there and win, they probably would lose to some grappler. but in a street fight when they could use strikes they worked on for most of their life. It would be a toss up. If they get a hand on ur face they could rip the skin from u, and that is not a lie
@Guinea54 'There hasn't been any real kung fu masters involved.' that's the 'no true scotsman' argument I was talking about. It's great that you're humble enough to admit they aren't invincible - you'd be suprised how many people have that belief about kung fu/internal martial arts masters. I'm going to study some Yi Quan myself, and I've studied breifly with some internal martial arts teachers who could fight well, but they would tell people learning this stuff doesn't make you invincible.
@LuqmanNaq no one is invincible. I am just saying that kung fu can be more effective than people give it credit for. And the masters in kung fu who study their whole life can do amazing things. Sure a 120 lb chinese monk isn't going to beat anyone in the UFC, but at that weight they developed such amazing abilities that they would whip my ass in a second in a street fight. Ive seen it with my own eyes the feats they are able to achieve.
@whatevamang and u know whats gonna happen, if they do change the dumb rules, than your going to see good boxers and other martial arts start dominating.
@whatevamang American or unified rules do favour wrestlers... Pride FC rules were more balanced. You could kick, stomp and knee a grounded opponent. So if a competitor sprawled on a takedown they could follow up with a leg strike, in unfied rules it's illegal if they have a knee on the ground. Check out some pride fc fights to see what I'm talking about.
who be great at one thing when you can be bad at alot of things if randy would have stood with tony it would be lights out dont get it yesited people boxing is alot harder to do then mma randy could never get up to the level of a james tony
They only brought in Tony so they could embarass boxing. Putting someone like James Toney up against a great in Randy, the fight was a joke. Bring in a great boxer and see what happens.
ik theres a lot of mma fans on this site and toney at his age will never be a very good mma fighter. but does anybody else wish Roy jones jr would have fought mma in his prime. Boxer or not Roy jones is the best athlete ever. He would fuck anybody up
I respect both sports, and my preference is boxing (since I am a boxer) but from me, there is no disrespect to the talent and fighting abilities of mma fighters.
the UFC is growing tremendously and I would be an ignorant fool to say that boxing beats UFC in events. No it doesn't. Boxing needs to get all this bullshit politics and economics outa there and make great fights for the fans. Thats what the UFC does and thats why it has been so successfull.
@achillesbeast I think its more classless for one. I find the majority of matches are like totally dead locked on the ground. In other words many of the fights are like watching mud wrestling. Its just not as intriguing to watch.. Its more of a gimmick to satisfy the sadistic nature of people under the guise of the term "mixed martial arts" Another reason is because people underestimate some traditional fighting systems because of the MMA marketing.
@Guinea54 true.....I would like to see boxing bieng rulled by one governing body that would pretty much force the best fighters to get in the ring with each other. That way we wouldn't have problems like the pacquiao mayweather bout failing to materialize twice.
@Lyingaboutmyage Well said... boxing is done due to overpaid assholes like Maryweather! MMA is just getting started in my oppinion, this sport is so great! MMA will be 2nd to NFL as being the most popular sport in (atleast) the U.S. ... its gonna take another 5 years or so due to baseball being boring as hell and Lebron making an ass of himslef with every word that comes outta his mouth! I may be embelishing but I love me some MMA and some football!!!
@Lyingaboutmyage Your absolutely right, politics have ruined boxing. Boxers ability to knockout each other with PADDED gloves would translate to dead MMA fighters. White says he boxed, so did I, I also wrestled, studied Tae Kwon Do & Judo. As a lightweight, I was more succesfull in MMA when I started boxing. I don't know what kind of boxer White was, but he mustn't have been very good. Whites not willing to put a MMA up against a boxer in his prime cause the MMA fighter would get schooled!
@Lyingaboutmyage Your absolutely right, politics have ruined boxing. Boxers ability to knockout each other with PADDED gloves would translate to dead MMA fighters. White says he boxed, so did I, I also wrestled, studied Tae Kwon Do & Judo. As a lightweight, I was more succesfull in MMA when I started boxing. I don't know what kind of boxer White was, but he mustn't have been very good. Whites not willing to put a MMA up against a boxer in his prime cause the MMA fighter would get schooled!
@achillesbeast I love boxing, but what I dislike is how majorly fucked up boxers end up in comparison to MMA fighters, you would think MMA would cause a lot more brain damage, but a boxers glory is short lived with all these problems - I look at guys like Randy Couture and Chuck Liddell and see that the sport seems to have a much lesser negative effect compared to Boxing, and you're right about the bullshit in boxing events, they need to sort that shit out.
yeah i know bro, bicoz nobody can fake tellin the truth and only cops and judges can tell who is lying, they have talents and learn that in their schools
If a boxer cant beat an MMA fighter in the ufc where there are rules he definately has less chance on the street where there are no rules.90% of street fights go like this..2 people bridge up,then start throwing punches,within 4-5 punches end up in a clinch,some1 grabs the other with a headlock,then it goes 2 the ground.If u dont agree then u obviously hav no experience.Im not being biased,I prefer fighting on my feet.I luv kickboxing & muay thai but the reality is 90% of the time it goes down.
@chinktx361 well, randy already saw that coming if he went for a stand up strike game. that's the whole point why he took the fight to toney on the ground.
@rdurisin Ariel Helwani works for MMA Fanhouse, not UFC. Dana is calling anybody a jackass that thought the Penn/Edgar II fight was boring, not Ariel. In all, Ariel is a really good reporter - knowledgeable, calm, respectful.
@AdmiralBirdseye Yeah, I DID have a thought in my head that "hmm.. what if? Maybe his punches ARE so damn powerful that he could actually win?"
I hoped for Couture's win and expected it... Kinda disappointing though that we didn't get to see any stand-up action as it would've been kinda interesting to see, even though I got what I hoped for. (Toney The Trashtalker going down like a total amateur.)
I respect both sports, boxing and mma though, so I'm not trying to say anything bad against boxing, just noting the fact that you're a total moron just for even stating something like that.
And you'd knock all of the UFC fighters out with a single punch to the gut? :D HAHAHA... Nice one, jokester. You're a class act.
Boxer vs MMA in the street = MMA win 99% of the time.
This is a fact, MMA is an evolution of fighting.
Boxing is like Olympic Karate. It is NOT the best form of fighting. It is, in fact, only one aspect of a REAL fight. You got more tools than your fists, to deny that is just folly.
A true warrior knows this, the fakes do not.
So, boxers, step up and be a real man and fight with all you got, not just pillow covered fists.
Fuck UFC.Couture is a PUSSY.James Toney went in to fight like a man.Couture went in to choke him in 3 seconds cos hes scared to get hurt.Yeah real good fuckin fight.....
@MuayThaiViking uhhhhh no you retard i was saying how UFC fighters are scared to get hurt.Couture was terrified to fight a real fighter and thats why he took him to the ground immediately and choked him out like a typical UFC fag.So your not agreeing with me whatsoever.
@RPL770 yea.. boxers arent really fit for real fighting, there are too many rules in that sport. MMA may be a bit too brutal for Toney, but respect to him that he had the balls to try UFC. not everybody would do that! thats why i hate people calling toney a bitch, it takes a real man to even step into the cage
@MuayThaiViking No any fighter can step into the cage.thats easy.For crying out loud Brock Lesnar is a ufc champion.Thats a joke in itself.No one gets hurt in UFC.Brutal? whats so brutal about gettin choked out in 30 seconds.Brutal is getting your brains pounded out for 10 rounds and getting back up to fight.In ufc the fight gets stopped for every little injury.Godforbid you punch your opponent too hard in the ufc.
@RPL770 yeah thats also why i like MMA more. its much more realistic, almost like a real 1on1 fight! no wonder boxers cant win in UFC. boxing is so limited in comparison. sure they get damaged, but so does the jackass crew when they make movies ;) but again, props to toney for having the guts to try!
I hate people that don't have the balls to be i'm mma or boxing or whatever combat sport and like to comment on fighting as if they know wtf is up. Shut the fuck up people if your not a fighter you shouldn't have to say anything.Respect both mma and boxing.both sports require the participants to have huge nuts it's not like baseball or football or any other sport for that matter.
Toney got caught up in the wrong frame of mind, He forgot what e was there to do... and that was punch, when randy came in, he decided to defend the take down like an MMA fighter , instead of doing what he was there to do and throw punches. if he would have punched Randy in the head when he came in, the whole lanscape of that fight could have changed. ... anyways on to the next Toney!!! it was his first MMA fight, We here for tommorrow not yesterday...Lights Out Baby
Like I said it was toney's first MMA fight and he made a wrong decision in the way he defended the takedown... He said after the fight in the locker room he is not done.I dnt think ufc should jus let him go, give him another fight on like a " Fight Night " show or somethin. Thats what I would like to see, he's not going to headline after a loss, but it is his first MMA fight, bring him back 4 a UFC fight night on sports net or spike and see what happens. Hey Lesnar lost his 1st UFC fight.
Floyd Maywheather is a fucking pussy if he had any balls he would fight MMA. He has money and no pride just a big fucking mouth all these boxers do is talk shit like WWF. They dont feel safe without their pillows on their hands.And if they keep getting their ass kicked in MMA everyone will know how big of PUSSYS they realy are and they wont be able to make any money. Thats the bottom fucking line.
@ruudski Yeah, you don't prove yourself through a real fight. You prove yourself from making a ridiculous agreement that you only use 1 type of attack in a fight.
the maynard/ edgar fights sure fuckin lived up to expectations
krb0123 1 week ago
if anybody wants to see a boxer fighting a UFC fighter it should be Manny Pacquiao
ObieG93 2 months ago 2
@ObieG93 ok im not looking to start the whole bosing vs mma debate......but WTF would manny even want to? hes at the top of the game in boxing....is getting older and would take years to leanr/ be competitive...all it would take is someone like a randy couture to takedown smash his head in and submit him. just saying. Manny is still awesome tho and i love watching him fight
SwimFan1986 2 months ago
WHAT HAPPENED WHEN RAY MERCER FOUGHT FORMER UFC HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION TIM SYLVIA? NOBODY EVER BRINGS THAT UP!
rdsrds1000 4 months ago
@rdsrds1000 Because Sylvia sucks. Sylvia stood up with Mercer for some reason. Do you know Kimbo Slice submitted ray mercer in an MMA match? Nobody brings that up...
NikLust1 1 month ago
I'm a boxing fan, not so much an MMA fan but I still respect ALL fighters. They put their lives at risk every time they step into the octagon or the squared circle. With that said, James Toney is a fucking idiot. LOL. He has been irrelevant in boxing for years. His fat old ass is a chump. LOL. I knew he was going to get destroyed by Couture....glad he did. Also, any boxer would get destroyed inside the octagon just as much as any MMA fighter would get destroyed inside the boxing ring.
Deejeezy405 5 months ago
james toneys retard
TasteyKush 5 months ago
I'm watching a fight right now where the UFC fighter with superior boxing skills is killing the UFC fighter without. In fact the UFC fighter using boxing skills has just knocked out the UFC fighter who is using kicks & take downs. When he switched from kicks and take down attempts to boxing he began dominating. This is what would happen if a boxer trained a year to defend against take downs and kicks, the boxer would dominate & knockouts would be common!
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Dana White hired this affirmative action negro James Toney so everyone could laugh at him get his black ass kicked .
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i really wanna see this dude Helwani blow up, i like the guy he should be a politician he has that Obama quality.
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hiram8077 11 months ago
James Toney got paid $500,000 from the UFC for that fight compared to Randy Couture's $250,000 that's bullshit
RoadDemon9 1 year ago 22
@RoadDemon9 thats the diffrence between toney and couture is couture wasnt fighting this fight for the money but for the pride of mma as a sport and what are boxers over paid thugs who cant hack it in a real fight !
MegaMma4life 1 year ago
@MegaMma4life Good point, it still pisses me off considering all the sacrifices these real fighters make and as a fan I'd like to see them get paid as much as possible.
RoadDemon9 1 year ago
@RoadDemon9 hell yea mma fighters should get paid def def most under paid athletes in the world
MegaMma4life 1 year ago
@MegaMma4life but dude problem with mma fighters is that there is no fighter like for example james toney or mike tyson or any champ that can reign for long time u got too much mma fighters and they are changing at the top and if they lose 2 in a row they are cut from organisation that is why
TheDomy23 1 year ago
@TheDomy23 thats becasue if u notice in boxing the best fighters dont fight eachother in mma the best fighters fight eachother 3 times a year !!!! and no if you lose 2 in a row you arent gone unless you look like garbage in thoughs 2 fights then yea
MegaMma4life 1 year ago
@MegaMma4life in boxing is different story dude,plus its harder to become a boxer then an mma fighter that is why boxing is so highly paid sport
TheDomy23 1 year ago
@TheDomy23 i def think its harder to be a mma fighter for the fact that you have to know more you cannot go into a fight just knowing one aspect of fighting plus wrestling is a hell of alot harder then boxing would ever be but i also think that the days of big name boxers who people would want to see fight are over after mayweather and pacman retire mma still has a ways to go but they should def make more then 250k thats a joke
MegaMma4life 1 year ago
@MegaMma4life nah its not harder to be an mma fighter,and if u are training it u should know,because average training before a fight for mma fighter is 6 months and to become a an average boxer u need to train for 2 years,just look on matt mitrione or jon jones he is training mma for 3 years i think and look at him he is world class and title contender so no boxing is much harder to train u have an cro cop interview where he says it he was an amateru boxer so he knows believe me
TheDomy23 1 year ago
@TheDomy23 yes it is harded to me a mma fighter you have to know more aspects on fighting crocop was a kick boxer which is harded then straight up boxer but still bjj is alot more technical then boxing i think but whatever its a opinion thing wrestling is harder on your body you need to be in better shape to but like i said after mayweather and pacman retire you wont see them making that m uch anymroe !!! boxing is a dieing art
MegaMma4life 11 months ago
@MegaMma4life nope dude u are wrong i have trained muay thai now i am training boxing i know boxing is harder to lear then muay thai more combos more punches as i said cro cop said who is mma legend that boxing is much harder,plus u have 10 rounds in boxing with much more punches to receive and what i meant and forgot to write it to u when u train mma u learn basics of wrestling bjj kickboxing boxing u cant master any of them that is why its easier to be an mma fighter
TheDomy23 11 months ago
@TheDomy23, you learn the basics in mma? The fighters are continously evolving in each area and are doing more advanced stuff all the time and are trying to master as much as they can. And what is mastering one of them for you? There are guys who are world champions in bjj competing in mma. Olympic wrestlers who compete in mma. Top kickboxers who compete in mma. There are a lot of guys who have great stand up and are bjj black belts. But they only know the basics despite being bjj black belts?
Bearthoughts 11 months ago
@Bearthoughts LOL dude?now u look stupid really,as i said new generation of mma fighters which are training mma,not olympic wrestlers not kickboxers not boxers not old school mma fighters like cro cop tell me in new wave of younger fighters and by that i mean look on fighter like jon jones,tell me what did he master?can he stand up with a kickboxer?a real one for example like cro cop?or can ryan bader beat shogun?
TheDomy23 11 months ago
@TheDomy23, hmm it seems I missed some point in your previous posts. As for Jones and Bader, you do realise that they are wrestlers, right? Jones is a junior college national champion in greco roman wrestling. He could have gone olympic if he would have wanted to make the sacrifice (in time/training) for it. Bader is another good wrestler. Jones also has an amazing athletic ability and is a quick and hungry learner. As far as mastering goes,it depends on what you mean. You can always get better.
Bearthoughts 11 months ago
@Bearthoughts nah just look it like these in modern day,u have new martial art called mma,so people arent training first wrestling then come to mma,they start as mma fighters and when u train just mma u cant master any martial art u know basic and medicore from for example kickboxing or muay thai,wrestling bjj u cant be jiu jitsu master if u are mma fighters in new days its hard to get black belt if u didnt start with jiu jitsu i dunno 10 years ago but yes depends on a fighter
TheDomy23 11 months ago
@TheDomy23, it ranges from fighter to fighter as you said. Some guys do pick up on grappling alarmingly quick. Jiu-jitsu also seems to come pretty natural for guys with wrestling backgrounds. Some of the younger guys who pick up mma also, due to their age, have a lot of time to evolve. And when there's a young natural talent picking up a sport, they tend to evolve at an extreme rate, same goes for mma. But it requires proper work ethic as well as raw talent.
Bearthoughts 11 months ago
@Bearthoughts if u have talent u will maybe be better in kickboxing then some k1 fighter
TheDomy23 11 months ago
@MegaMma4life but still i love both of sport and respect all fighters because i know how hard is to train every day and give up from 90 percent of ur private life
TheDomy23 11 months ago
@MegaMma4life pure boxing (not boxing in mma) is a very technical sport. In fact most fighters in mma arent BOXING, they are just punching and that is not very technical. I would say that pure boxing is just as technical as bjj
TheRozza333 10 months ago
@TheRozza333 is just as technical as a bjj huh no brother in bjj theres alot more going on buddy good opinion but def wouldnt say that its a lot harder to put someone in a submission then to punch someone in the face
MegaMma4life 10 months ago
@MegaMma4life but u cant pay all fighters with that amount of money dude its not serious and realistic just look how many organisations in mma there are they would all finish like PRIDE FC in bankrupcy u see the gate from last ufc?4 million dollars lol,and boxing take for example manny pacquiao and margarito fight had gate over 100 million so dont say that pls boxing is an art mma fighter can be anynone with little training
TheDomy23 1 year ago
@RoadDemon9 James toney got no ppv revenue. Randy couture got a shit load of ppv revenue that isnt listed in his payout....
UrbanPlays 7 months ago
@RoadDemon9 eh..i guess it makes sense? they were both over paid..all professional athletes are over paid..but thats another point..but for randy it was a 0 risk fight so it makes sense hes paid less
Juggaloserialeater 5 months ago
@RoadDemon9 eh..i guess it makes sense? they were both over paid..all professional athletes are over paid..but thats another point..but for randy it was a 0 risk fight so it makes sense hes paid less
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mcayadistube 1 month ago
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@RoadDemon9 Waht? he got paid 500,000? That's bulshit in this economy you can't afford to suck in any job. Foney asked for the wrong job, he got it, he sucked as a mf. he's lucky he got paid at all what was dana thinking. Randy promissed he will shut a running mouth, he delivered so he gets paid like the boss. Only takedown defence Toney had was to tap as soon as the bell rings and he did not use it. So Im smarter than Toney and i dont get paid 500,000 thats bullshit
mcayadistube 1 month ago
@RoadDemon9 those aren't accurate numbers. Those are the numbers given to the athletic commission. Bonuses are not accounted for.
Alpinex105 3 days ago
Who's Bob Ryan? Dana, don't you mean Bob Arum? SMH
azn0111 1 year ago
james tony sounds like a dumbass during his interviews about this fight he sounded like a retard "dkfnodjoskdmfcksdnlksdkldflkjdsf" been knocked in the head to much
itinkgirlzhot12 1 year ago
@itinkgirlzhot12 more like '' etfergdsfg dfg you know what im sayin? gdghsfhfsh you know what im sayin? ''
Bobafetus 1 year ago
White kicked this affrimative action negro Toney out of mma becuase he is a disgrace !
grandesbolas1 1 year ago
Too be a GREAT fighter in MMA you MUST know how to box. MMA is the future of ALL combat sports. It's evolution baby!
drubeast 1 year ago
frankie edgar proved he has the heart of a champion after surviving round 1 at ufc 118 vs maynard.
EndlessStarfall 1 year ago
@EndlessStarfall edgars a animal he took a beating in that round lol
MegaMma4life 1 year ago
i would love to see edgar move down though now there are lgither weight classes him vs urija faber or aldo would be sweet
MegaMma4life 1 year ago
I didn't expect much from Edgar and Maynard, but damn I'm glad I bought it, let's hope Penn and Fitch make it interesting
DSchneid122 1 year ago
whoaa james toney.. WHO GIVES A FUCK,,,he can be beaten in basketball my lebron...dana all pump up lols
Mrpopoy83 1 year ago
at least there's somone then a worse ground game then kimbo slince and chiceo kongo
frog12345689 1 year ago
Dana White...........the "Don King" of MMA and the biggest crook and poorest excuse for a human being on the planet.
khalsasikh 1 year ago
mma all the way
midnightmorning 1 year ago
I think when dana said " you're a complete jackass" he was talking about the journalist.
mrblack87able 1 year ago
@mrblack87able LOL. I don't get people saying it wasn't exciting... it was beautiful to watch frankie transition so smoothly between striking, and wrestling against BJ PENN!... shame people can't appreciate that.
LuqmanNaq 1 year ago
@LuqmanNaq bro, i just checked out some PRIDE fights. thanks. your right, this is exactly what i've been wanting to see.so many styles represented and it's not a bunch of wrestling. too bad it's defunct. but i heard DREAM is the new pride. hopefully it takes off.
whatevamang 1 year ago
@whatevamang Yeah Pride was awesome. I hope Dream takes off but I can't see it personally, marketing and money is with the UFC. :-(. Check out this incredible tribute to Pride; /watch?v=HoHZpNX9nQc
LuqmanNaq 1 year ago
Dana White, EVERY FUCKING ITNERVIEW..
"Listen.." "Listen let me tell you what" "The Thing is"
TheScore22 1 year ago
i think the edgar vs. penn 2 was exiting. they almost mixed up every single aspect of MMA.
UFCMMAmads 1 year ago
i don't even see why people compare boxing to mma. it's pointless to argue which is better because the only thing they have in common is a ring and a canvas mat. the rules of combat sports determine everything and since mma is mostly wrestling a boxer won't do well. Neither would a wrestler do well in a boxing match. it's like forcing an nfl athlete to play soccer. apples and oranges.
whatevamang 1 year ago
I WANT to take a bit out of dana's round head. So tastey like a while milk dud
AlcoholicSemenStain 1 year ago
the sexual tension between these two is ridiculous
keepitganstadawg 1 year ago
tell couture stop being a bitch and fight toney in the ring...garauntee you he'll leave in a stretcher
noonex4 1 year ago
@noonex4 couture would get paid to lose like don king did to his boxers
dromezz 1 year ago
Real life is facing 6 hoodies with broken bottles. Not grappling with 1 guy. The floor is the last place you wanna be. Run, if u have to strike and run. For this Boxing is far superior for survival on the streets.
benjamintheblue 1 year ago
@benjamintheblue not every mma fighter likes to go to the ground alot want to stand
dromezz 1 year ago
@dromezz If they didnt take james toney down to the ground do you honestly think he would have won? This shit is all set up so fans of gay mud wrestling could watch their favorite sport. I feel that if a guys intention is the mud wrestle you to the ground and sit on ur chest ,, u should be able to hit him in the throat or in the eyes.
Guinea54 1 year ago
@Guinea54 wow couture wasnt mud wrestler u sound like an uneducated boxing fan. he was a high school and college wrestler and greco roman wrestler.
dromezz 1 year ago
@dromezz You sound like someone who doesn't understand sarcasm. I am calling the UFC mud wrestling. because you people enjoy watching two grown men roll around the floor for 10 hours.
Guinea54 1 year ago
@Guinea54 better than boxers clinching up like bitches
dromezz 1 year ago
@dromezz Yeah but when they clinch, The ref breaks it up, They dont just hug each other for 3 hours. What you say doesnt even make sense. in the UFC they clinch ON THE FLOOR. for like the whole friggin match.. How is that entertaining?
Guinea54 1 year ago
@Guinea54 they hug all the time for 12 rounds thats all i see when the blitckos fight wen floyd fights. they also try to ground n pound and submit. mma requires more skill and endurance
dromezz 1 year ago
@dromezz Ground and pound is classless, The entire sport is classless. If you are around to ground and pound someones face in or knee them in the head, than tactics used in other martial arts like kung fu should be allowed. Why not? Why stop there. If some guy whos huge got on my chest, i only have a couple of options, Try to hit him in the throat to crush his wind pipe or do an eye gouche, or rip his ball sack off. in the street u would do whatever u could.Not lay there and take a beatin
Guinea54 1 year ago
@Guinea54 this is a sport dumbass not a street fight. there are no martial arts for street fighting. boxing is too dumbasses swinging
dromezz 1 year ago
@dromezz Punching is two dumbasses swinging. Boxing is two technical athletes testing their skills. Its like bjj, its sooooo technical. If you thought that you could go into a boxing ring and 'just swing' then you would get out classed by a decent boxer. You would get countered after every swing and they would just take advantage of every single mistake and opening you make for them.
TheRozza333 10 months ago
@TheRozza333
Go into an MMA fight with a wrestling background and a stiff jab and you can become the world champ easily.
SkyrimOwns 9 months ago
@SkyrimOwns in boxing just have a jab and clinch you own 5 world titles
ageeeeeeeeee 9 months ago
@SkyrimOwns retard
mrnon0z 8 months ago
@Guinea54 dude seriously both sports are great and entertaining. mma is an evolution of boxing, it IS boxing and then more. both sports require tactics and quick thinking. what do u really have against mma? im ready to hear ur argument if ur ready to hear mine
ThaKyz 1 year ago
@Guinea54 That' my biggest issue I have with MMA. It ends up being a wrestling match and not much else. boring. they should limit the amount of time on the ground or give scores for take-downs but break it up the same way they pull apart locked up boxers. the whole sport would change and it wouldn't be wrestler dominated anymore. the rules don't allow fighters real ways to get out of grapples. This is why so few effective martial arts are represented in mma.
whatevamang 1 year ago
@whatevamang EXACTLY! Wow there is someone with a fucking brain out there. amazing. I couldn't agree with you more. I am no fighting expert by any means, but when I was young I studied in kung fu. And ALOT of the shit they were teaching would not be allowed in MMA. We did a lot of stuff on how to finish fights quickly for self defense or how to get an attack off of you by throat strikes eye strikes ear strikes. temple strikes. etc.
Guinea54 1 year ago
@Guinea54 many of those things were allowed in original vale tudo and early UFC... but you didn't see kung fu guys dominating. (you can strike to the temple)... Also check out pride rules where you could knee, stomp and kick your opponent when they were on the ground.
LuqmanNaq 1 year ago
@LuqmanNaq Just cause some idiots say they know kung fu doesnt mean anything. most of the people who studied it for decades don't compete in these type of events, they only compete within their own tournaments. and the strikes in kung fu are throat strikes, eye strikes and strikes that deal with an attacker on the street, not a full contact sport.
Guinea54 1 year ago
@Guinea54 the 'no true scotsman' argument. Kung fu guys had the opportunity to dominate when there were minimal rules in the early days of vale tudo and the UFC - they didn't. If your kung fu is about street fighting then ok.. but I'd personally rather have a functional skill set that i can practice agaisnt a resisting opponent, over one that I can't (throat strikes, etc) they may be effective but I trust what I've practiced. Check out the video 'words of wisdom pt1' to understand.
LuqmanNaq 1 year ago
@LuqmanNaq THe thing people dont understand about some systems in kung fu. If I went and studied boxing and BJJ for 3 years, i probably would have a much better benefit than if i studied kung fu for 3 years. Kung fu is not as practical because it takes too much time to get decent at it. Just the training on your hands takes about a decade and that is no exaggeration. People study artful kungfu styles that look great for a few years, and claim to be kung fu masters.
Guinea54 1 year ago
@LuqmanNaq There hasn't been any real kung fu masters involved. If you go to China town in nyc and try and convince any of the real masters there to fight in something like the UFC they would scoff at you. It is not because they would go there and win, they probably would lose to some grappler. but in a street fight when they could use strikes they worked on for most of their life. It would be a toss up. If they get a hand on ur face they could rip the skin from u, and that is not a lie
Guinea54 1 year ago
@Guinea54 'There hasn't been any real kung fu masters involved.' that's the 'no true scotsman' argument I was talking about. It's great that you're humble enough to admit they aren't invincible - you'd be suprised how many people have that belief about kung fu/internal martial arts masters. I'm going to study some Yi Quan myself, and I've studied breifly with some internal martial arts teachers who could fight well, but they would tell people learning this stuff doesn't make you invincible.
LuqmanNaq 1 year ago
@LuqmanNaq no one is invincible. I am just saying that kung fu can be more effective than people give it credit for. And the masters in kung fu who study their whole life can do amazing things. Sure a 120 lb chinese monk isn't going to beat anyone in the UFC, but at that weight they developed such amazing abilities that they would whip my ass in a second in a street fight. Ive seen it with my own eyes the feats they are able to achieve.
Guinea54 1 year ago
@whatevamang and u know whats gonna happen, if they do change the dumb rules, than your going to see good boxers and other martial arts start dominating.
Guinea54 1 year ago
@whatevamang American or unified rules do favour wrestlers... Pride FC rules were more balanced. You could kick, stomp and knee a grounded opponent. So if a competitor sprawled on a takedown they could follow up with a leg strike, in unfied rules it's illegal if they have a knee on the ground. Check out some pride fc fights to see what I'm talking about.
LuqmanNaq 1 year ago
@dromezz thats why its called MIXED martial arts you space cadet.
Super007steve 1 year ago
who be great at one thing when you can be bad at alot of things if randy would have stood with tony it would be lights out dont get it yesited people boxing is alot harder to do then mma randy could never get up to the level of a james tony
drugwhore 1 year ago
They only brought in Tony so they could embarass boxing. Putting someone like James Toney up against a great in Randy, the fight was a joke. Bring in a great boxer and see what happens.
puffykilled2pac 1 year ago
@puffykilled2pac same outcome
dromezz 1 year ago
Lets face it guys, In MMA James Toney talked to much shit about MMA and couldnt back it up.
kookie808kracker 1 year ago 2
ik theres a lot of mma fans on this site and toney at his age will never be a very good mma fighter. but does anybody else wish Roy jones jr would have fought mma in his prime. Boxer or not Roy jones is the best athlete ever. He would fuck anybody up
dunlap15 1 year ago
@dunlap15 I wanna see mayweather fight aldo that would be epic
VIZZICKS 1 year ago
@VIZZICKS dude your an asshole
why would you want Mayweather to never be able to walk again
darthsasuke554 1 year ago
@darthsasuke554 lol I realy think if he trained for a couple years he could be great but you're right aldo would cripple him
VIZZICKS 1 year ago
listening to Dana white is genuinely entertaining
SpencerRS 1 year ago
I respect both sports, and my preference is boxing (since I am a boxer) but from me, there is no disrespect to the talent and fighting abilities of mma fighters.
the UFC is growing tremendously and I would be an ignorant fool to say that boxing beats UFC in events. No it doesn't. Boxing needs to get all this bullshit politics and economics outa there and make great fights for the fans. Thats what the UFC does and thats why it has been so successfull.
achillesbeast 1 year ago 35
@achillesbeast I think its more classless for one. I find the majority of matches are like totally dead locked on the ground. In other words many of the fights are like watching mud wrestling. Its just not as intriguing to watch.. Its more of a gimmick to satisfy the sadistic nature of people under the guise of the term "mixed martial arts" Another reason is because people underestimate some traditional fighting systems because of the MMA marketing.
Guinea54 1 year ago
@Guinea54 true.....I would like to see boxing bieng rulled by one governing body that would pretty much force the best fighters to get in the ring with each other. That way we wouldn't have problems like the pacquiao mayweather bout failing to materialize twice.
achillesbeast 1 year ago
@Guinea54 also wats with the 2000 belts in boxing
dromezz 1 year ago
@achillesbeast
I love MMA, but I personally I would love to see boxing if boxing were just to set up great fights.
I think politics are running boxing into the ground as well.
Lyingaboutmyage 1 year ago 21
@Lyingaboutmyage Well said... boxing is done due to overpaid assholes like Maryweather! MMA is just getting started in my oppinion, this sport is so great! MMA will be 2nd to NFL as being the most popular sport in (atleast) the U.S. ... its gonna take another 5 years or so due to baseball being boring as hell and Lebron making an ass of himslef with every word that comes outta his mouth! I may be embelishing but I love me some MMA and some football!!!
DrVegasIII 1 year ago
@Lyingaboutmyage Your absolutely right, politics have ruined boxing. Boxers ability to knockout each other with PADDED gloves would translate to dead MMA fighters. White says he boxed, so did I, I also wrestled, studied Tae Kwon Do & Judo. As a lightweight, I was more succesfull in MMA when I started boxing. I don't know what kind of boxer White was, but he mustn't have been very good. Whites not willing to put a MMA up against a boxer in his prime cause the MMA fighter would get schooled!
david80905 5 months ago
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@Lyingaboutmyage Your absolutely right, politics have ruined boxing. Boxers ability to knockout each other with PADDED gloves would translate to dead MMA fighters. White says he boxed, so did I, I also wrestled, studied Tae Kwon Do & Judo. As a lightweight, I was more succesfull in MMA when I started boxing. I don't know what kind of boxer White was, but he mustn't have been very good. Whites not willing to put a MMA up against a boxer in his prime cause the MMA fighter would get schooled!
david80905 5 months ago
@achillesbeast i have a horrible feeling that in 10-20 years mma will end up ruined like boxing, by money
honkyxadonis 1 year ago
@achillesbeast I love boxing, but what I dislike is how majorly fucked up boxers end up in comparison to MMA fighters, you would think MMA would cause a lot more brain damage, but a boxers glory is short lived with all these problems - I look at guys like Randy Couture and Chuck Liddell and see that the sport seems to have a much lesser negative effect compared to Boxing, and you're right about the bullshit in boxing events, they need to sort that shit out.
dothemariogs 1 year ago
@achillesbeast god i wish more boxers have an attitude like you im sick of mma vs boxing debates
blusuck 1 year ago
@achillesbeast I can dig it bro lol
carlosharris 1 year ago
where is dana looking?
zuj1984 1 year ago
@zuj1984 sometimes people look in certain directions to access certain parts of their brain.
diamonddust22 1 year ago
@diamonddust22
gyyy! i usually look everywhere to access it's all volume
zuj1984 1 year ago
@zuj1984 That is why if you look at the police or judges, they watches your eyes because wherever you look they can tell if you are lying or not.
diamonddust22 1 year ago
@diamonddust22
yeah i know bro, bicoz nobody can fake tellin the truth and only cops and judges can tell who is lying, they have talents and learn that in their schools
zuj1984 1 year ago
If a boxer cant beat an MMA fighter in the ufc where there are rules he definately has less chance on the street where there are no rules.90% of street fights go like this..2 people bridge up,then start throwing punches,within 4-5 punches end up in a clinch,some1 grabs the other with a headlock,then it goes 2 the ground.If u dont agree then u obviously hav no experience.Im not being biased,I prefer fighting on my feet.I luv kickboxing & muay thai but the reality is 90% of the time it goes down.
realityIZanILLUZION 1 year ago
@realityIZanILLUZION
last time i checked it was 82%, where did u check ur stats bro?
zuj1984 1 year ago
@zuj1984 it really doesn't matter. if one person wants it to go to the ground, it will go to the ground one way or another
hunterman2020 1 year ago
james will knock out couture if stand up game
chinktx361 1 year ago
@chinktx361 well, randy already saw that coming if he went for a stand up strike game. that's the whole point why he took the fight to toney on the ground.
codenamevengeance 1 year ago
Dry hump FTW!
baihbalm 1 year ago
Okay - I don't follow MMA very much so help me out w/this. Is this reporter on the UFC payroll?
Look at 3:59
Why's he nodding in agreement after it sounds like Dana White just told him he's a complete jackass?
rdurisin 1 year ago
@rdurisin Ariel Helwani works for MMA Fanhouse, not UFC. Dana is calling anybody a jackass that thought the Penn/Edgar II fight was boring, not Ariel. In all, Ariel is a really good reporter - knowledgeable, calm, respectful.
bledsoe8 1 year ago
@rdurisin - no he's saying the fans who didn't appreciate the edgar v penn fight are "jackass's".
superstelling 1 year ago
@AdmiralBirdseye Yeah, I DID have a thought in my head that "hmm.. what if? Maybe his punches ARE so damn powerful that he could actually win?"
I hoped for Couture's win and expected it... Kinda disappointing though that we didn't get to see any stand-up action as it would've been kinda interesting to see, even though I got what I hoped for. (Toney The Trashtalker going down like a total amateur.)
sarkasmi83 1 year ago
@RadiantEclipseBand Anyone with a half a brain knows not that's not true.
I respect both sports, boxing and mma though, so I'm not trying to say anything bad against boxing, just noting the fact that you're a total moron just for even stating something like that.
And you'd knock all of the UFC fighters out with a single punch to the gut? :D HAHAHA... Nice one, jokester. You're a class act.
sarkasmi83 1 year ago
I thought Tyson said that about Toney? He said he was a dark dude and that he would come out and fight a rematch like he won the first one.
MadMat408 1 year ago
doesnt toney have a fight coming up against belfort?
zdeezy19 1 year ago
Boxer vs MMA in the street = MMA win 99% of the time.
This is a fact, MMA is an evolution of fighting.
Boxing is like Olympic Karate. It is NOT the best form of fighting. It is, in fact, only one aspect of a REAL fight. You got more tools than your fists, to deny that is just folly.
A true warrior knows this, the fakes do not.
So, boxers, step up and be a real man and fight with all you got, not just pillow covered fists.
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brenda32146 1 year ago
who the hell is James Toney?
ROFL!
BakingRecipes 1 year ago
Fuck UFC.Couture is a PUSSY.James Toney went in to fight like a man.Couture went in to choke him in 3 seconds cos hes scared to get hurt.Yeah real good fuckin fight.....
RPL770 1 year ago
@RPL770 i agree, boxers dont have a chance against an MMA fighter. they should stick to boxing so they dont get hurt by a real fighter
MuayThaiViking 1 year ago
@MuayThaiViking uhhhhh no you retard i was saying how UFC fighters are scared to get hurt.Couture was terrified to fight a real fighter and thats why he took him to the ground immediately and choked him out like a typical UFC fag.So your not agreeing with me whatsoever.
RPL770 1 year ago
@RPL770 yea.. boxers arent really fit for real fighting, there are too many rules in that sport. MMA may be a bit too brutal for Toney, but respect to him that he had the balls to try UFC. not everybody would do that! thats why i hate people calling toney a bitch, it takes a real man to even step into the cage
cheers!
MuayThaiViking 1 year ago
@MuayThaiViking No any fighter can step into the cage.thats easy.For crying out loud Brock Lesnar is a ufc champion.Thats a joke in itself.No one gets hurt in UFC.Brutal? whats so brutal about gettin choked out in 30 seconds.Brutal is getting your brains pounded out for 10 rounds and getting back up to fight.In ufc the fight gets stopped for every little injury.Godforbid you punch your opponent too hard in the ufc.
RPL770 1 year ago
@RPL770 yeah thats also why i like MMA more. its much more realistic, almost like a real 1on1 fight! no wonder boxers cant win in UFC. boxing is so limited in comparison. sure they get damaged, but so does the jackass crew when they make movies ;) but again, props to toney for having the guts to try!
MuayThaiViking 1 year ago
@RPL770 you sir, are an idiot.
druidsfoot 1 year ago
@RPL770 Whatever, kid. So you consider early dementia brutal?
DevilTriggerSix08 1 year ago
@RPL770 Lying faggot. If that had been Andrei Arvloski, Toney still wouldn't have stood a chance.
DevilTriggerSix08 1 year ago
@RPL770 Fight like a man?
If this had been a real fight, Randy Couture could have choked James Toney to death.
ByronC900 1 year ago
I hate people that don't have the balls to be i'm mma or boxing or whatever combat sport and like to comment on fighting as if they know wtf is up. Shut the fuck up people if your not a fighter you shouldn't have to say anything.Respect both mma and boxing.both sports require the participants to have huge nuts it's not like baseball or football or any other sport for that matter.
w3stside42 1 year ago
@w3stside42 true shit bro, i prefer boxing because ive always been more comfortable in fights standing. but both sports are great
chaosinesco 1 year ago
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Toney got caught up in the wrong frame of mind, He forgot what e was there to do... and that was punch, when randy came in, he decided to defend the take down like an MMA fighter , instead of doing what he was there to do and throw punches. if he would have punched Randy in the head when he came in, the whole lanscape of that fight could have changed. ... anyways on to the next Toney!!! it was his first MMA fight, We here for tommorrow not yesterday...Lights Out Baby
YoungCandy2nd 1 year ago
Like I said it was toney's first MMA fight and he made a wrong decision in the way he defended the takedown... He said after the fight in the locker room he is not done.I dnt think ufc should jus let him go, give him another fight on like a " Fight Night " show or somethin. Thats what I would like to see, he's not going to headline after a loss, but it is his first MMA fight, bring him back 4 a UFC fight night on sports net or spike and see what happens. Hey Lesnar lost his 1st UFC fight.
YoungCandy2nd 1 year ago
Floyd Maywheather is a fucking pussy if he had any balls he would fight MMA. He has money and no pride just a big fucking mouth all these boxers do is talk shit like WWF. They dont feel safe without their pillows on their hands.And if they keep getting their ass kicked in MMA everyone will know how big of PUSSYS they realy are and they wont be able to make any money. Thats the bottom fucking line.
caseydoolin 1 year ago
u will ouly have proved your self wen you cum to boxing
ruudski 1 year ago
@ruudski Yeah, you don't prove yourself through a real fight. You prove yourself from making a ridiculous agreement that you only use 1 type of attack in a fight.
LOL
pearcemark2 1 year ago
oops. i forgot GSP! he's french canadian white! its just a honkey business in the UFC and thats the truth!
SpecialSomeone4u 1 year ago
@SpecialSomeone4u so the $500k that Toney was paid for the fight was what exactly? Reparations? Affirmative action? lol
riceburner888 1 year ago
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wrestlerwins 1 year ago