this series is so good...the shit that airs on american tv is no match for this..it is totally inaccurate and sensationalist..I sit in front of my tv fuming at the lies and distortions that appear in those shows...thanks for posting this..
If the Germans had concentrated all their forces into two, not three super armies, and encircled Moscow, attacking through the center and North, they could have taken Moscow and won the war against the Soviet Union in 2 months, like in Poland nd France.
Adolf Galland with JG26, plus Rommel and his company on the Eastern front would have been all that was needed to get those extra few miles to the Russian capital.
@Xiolablu3 I'm not trying to undermine the achievements of the soviet people of the era nor the allies during world war 2 , im just saying that seeing stalin as nothing else than the lesser evil is a very biased way of seeing his personal touch in history.
If the Germans had not had the losses in the Battle of Britain and on the estern front in General, and had not had to keep a watchful eye over the channel or Africa, then all those forces would have tipped the balance on the Eastern front.
Nice to see your going with the BS soviet propaganda that the soviet-union could have defeated germany on her own without help of the western which they never could, without allied help the soviet union would have been crushed.
Not at all but I do know what it really took to defeat nazi-germany and no country could have done it on their own, not the UK, not the US and not the Sovjet Union.
@Dreachon Alright ,then , but You gotta admit most of the war was fought in the soviet union ,and also you have to see that the sheer size of the conflict on the eastern front was 4 times bigger than the western one .
It certainly was, the russians had to bear the brunt of what nazi-germany would throw at her enemies, no other country in the world could have sustained those losses and kept going.
@SovietMudkipTheTiger No hes right, the Germans were 10 miles from Moscow, all those UK and US lend lease weapons, fuel and armour, and the losses on the Western front from air attacks were vital in stopping the Germans just miles from Moscow. 10 (ten) miles! The Germans could see the spires of the buildings. The Russians would have fallen without the Western Allies, no doubt about it.
@Xiolablu3 I hope you do realize this kid (Togeita) is pro-conservative , hes 14 and thinks liberals are communists (facts fresh from his userpage) , hes apparently a wolfaboo aswell , because there isn't more important issues in the world than long haired wild dogs.
Anyway,yes I never said the russians won on their own , but the opposite of your statements is also true ,the western allies wouldve lost if it wasnt for the russians. (im out of characters will post another comment about stalin)
@Xiolablu3 Theres no denying stalin killed many of his own people ,and some of his doubtful policies cost the lives to many innocents,his policies even as brutal as they were helped modernize russian industry and agriculture in a way nobody couldve expected.I'll just say that his own policies helped modernize his own country ,sure it had a price ,but its newly acquired industrial and economical power allowed russia to devellop its own weaponry during the war and eventually overcome the invaders.
Rommel's african forces would be completely irrelevant for situation on the east front in 1941.
Lend-lease? Also totally irrelevant in 1941. (USA wasn't even in the war when german offensive on Moscow was halted!)
In december 1941. Soviets already gathered huge reinforcements from the east just outside of Moscow, there was simply NO WAY that Germans could take Moscow in December.
@ssmaxx maybe he means that rommel should have been in russia rather than in africa fighting in italys dream.. that should have been saved until after russia fell. the reinforcments were siberian ski divisions that got to moscow in mid dec..and it only pushed the germans back a fraction when you look at the entire map. btw russias biggest ally in the war was greece... it delayed barbsa a couple months. that couple of months would have allowed the germans to beat winter to moscow..
@Dreachon No it was the Eastern front, and the 'win by space' strategy of Russian generals that caused demoralizing, enormous losses to the Germans. Stalin was a hero, who ordered everyone to fight, his one son was captured and killed, also what other country's military employed women operating artillery guns, snipers and planes? only Russia did, Russia's contribution is completely underestimated, remember it suffered 20million casualties!
@Dreachon The americans and british helped rebuild the Russian airforce, and helped with supplies, but the actual battle plan was Russian, and it was really clever, nothing to do with the initial Russian defense, which the Germans just crashed.
Stalingrad and battle for Moscow are examples of Russian bravery, under overwhelming odds, but with clever battle plan + excellent spy efficiency.
@Togeita And how that ? the people loved him , the only one who hated him were the opponent of the state , even if stalin was a monster,even if he was a mass murderer , his paranoia and incredible tenacity in the war helped the russian win for sure.
@SovietMudkipTheTiger Thats rubbish, he slaughtered all the experienced army commanders in 1939-41. He contributed to the practically useless Russian Defence in 1941. He was an awful leader. Murdering polical opponents and anyone he didnt like. He created a 'man made' famine which killed hundreds of thousands in the years before WW2.
I cant believe what you are saying, its incredible.
@tessieralexandre Dude, are you freaking moronic? Both the Germans and the Soviets were known for executing, real or suspected, deserts in great numbers.
Stalins ass-kissers everywhere, as if he ever risked his life. It was the soldiers that charged into machine guns.
jackzero99 2 months ago
this series is so good...the shit that airs on american tv is no match for this..it is totally inaccurate and sensationalist..I sit in front of my tv fuming at the lies and distortions that appear in those shows...thanks for posting this..
3sheik 3 months ago
Greatest invasion in history so far...
1MuchButteR1 7 months ago
I believe what Guderian said wsa right
If the Germans had concentrated all their forces into two, not three super armies, and encircled Moscow, attacking through the center and North, they could have taken Moscow and won the war against the Soviet Union in 2 months, like in Poland nd France.
Taking Stalingrad was of little importance
scg159 8 months ago 2
Adolf Galland with JG26, plus Rommel and his company on the Eastern front would have been all that was needed to get those extra few miles to the Russian capital.
Xiolablu3 1 year ago
@Xiolablu3 I'm not trying to undermine the achievements of the soviet people of the era nor the allies during world war 2 , im just saying that seeing stalin as nothing else than the lesser evil is a very biased way of seeing his personal touch in history.
SovietMudkipTheTiger 1 year ago
If the Germans had not had the losses in the Battle of Britain and on the estern front in General, and had not had to keep a watchful eye over the channel or Africa, then all those forces would have tipped the balance on the Eastern front.
Xiolablu3 1 year ago
stunning
Incantro2 1 year ago
Might say what you want about stalin , he won that war
SovietMudkipTheTiger 1 year ago
@SovietMudkipTheTiger
Stalin did not win the war, the people of the world won the war, they are the ones that fought and bled to gain victory over nazi-germany.
Dreachon 1 year ago 7
@Dreachon People of world maybe , but that doesnt include americans for all im concerned
SovietMudkipTheTiger 1 year ago
@SovietMudkipTheTiger
Nice to see your going with the BS soviet propaganda that the soviet-union could have defeated germany on her own without help of the western which they never could, without allied help the soviet union would have been crushed.
Dreachon 1 year ago
@Dreachon Good joke bro ,good joke .
Made me laugh a lot !!!
U mad ?
SovietMudkipTheTiger 1 year ago
@SovietMudkipTheTiger
Not at all but I do know what it really took to defeat nazi-germany and no country could have done it on their own, not the UK, not the US and not the Sovjet Union.
Dreachon 1 year ago
@Dreachon Alright ,then , but You gotta admit most of the war was fought in the soviet union ,and also you have to see that the sheer size of the conflict on the eastern front was 4 times bigger than the western one .
SovietMudkipTheTiger 1 year ago
@SovietMudkipTheTiger
It certainly was, the russians had to bear the brunt of what nazi-germany would throw at her enemies, no other country in the world could have sustained those losses and kept going.
Dreachon 1 year ago
@SovietMudkipTheTiger No hes right, the Germans were 10 miles from Moscow, all those UK and US lend lease weapons, fuel and armour, and the losses on the Western front from air attacks were vital in stopping the Germans just miles from Moscow. 10 (ten) miles! The Germans could see the spires of the buildings. The Russians would have fallen without the Western Allies, no doubt about it.
Xiolablu3 1 year ago
@Xiolablu3 I hope you do realize this kid (Togeita) is pro-conservative , hes 14 and thinks liberals are communists (facts fresh from his userpage) , hes apparently a wolfaboo aswell , because there isn't more important issues in the world than long haired wild dogs.
Anyway,yes I never said the russians won on their own , but the opposite of your statements is also true ,the western allies wouldve lost if it wasnt for the russians. (im out of characters will post another comment about stalin)
SovietMudkipTheTiger 1 year ago
@SovietMudkipTheTiger Absolutely
Xiolablu3 1 year ago
@Xiolablu3 Theres no denying stalin killed many of his own people ,and some of his doubtful policies cost the lives to many innocents,his policies even as brutal as they were helped modernize russian industry and agriculture in a way nobody couldve expected.I'll just say that his own policies helped modernize his own country ,sure it had a price ,but its newly acquired industrial and economical power allowed russia to devellop its own weaponry during the war and eventually overcome the invaders.
SovietMudkipTheTiger 1 year ago
@SovietMudkipTheTiger Liberals arent communists? They are as far as Im concerned.
calimar28 10 months ago
@Xiolabutt3 That's complete and utter nonsense.
Rommel's african forces would be completely irrelevant for situation on the east front in 1941.
Lend-lease? Also totally irrelevant in 1941. (USA wasn't even in the war when german offensive on Moscow was halted!)
In december 1941. Soviets already gathered huge reinforcements from the east just outside of Moscow, there was simply NO WAY that Germans could take Moscow in December.
ssmaxx 9 months ago
@ssmaxx maybe he means that rommel should have been in russia rather than in africa fighting in italys dream.. that should have been saved until after russia fell. the reinforcments were siberian ski divisions that got to moscow in mid dec..and it only pushed the germans back a fraction when you look at the entire map. btw russias biggest ally in the war was greece... it delayed barbsa a couple months. that couple of months would have allowed the germans to beat winter to moscow..
caneman75 1 month ago
@Dreachon No it was the Eastern front, and the 'win by space' strategy of Russian generals that caused demoralizing, enormous losses to the Germans. Stalin was a hero, who ordered everyone to fight, his one son was captured and killed, also what other country's military employed women operating artillery guns, snipers and planes? only Russia did, Russia's contribution is completely underestimated, remember it suffered 20million casualties!
VERGIS92 7 months ago
@VERGIS92
Yes and something that should alse be remembered is that without the rest of the world joining in Russia would have been destroyed.
Russia needed the western allies as much as the western allies needed Russia, neither of them could have won without the other.
Dreachon 7 months ago 2
@Dreachon The americans and british helped rebuild the Russian airforce, and helped with supplies, but the actual battle plan was Russian, and it was really clever, nothing to do with the initial Russian defense, which the Germans just crashed.
Stalingrad and battle for Moscow are examples of Russian bravery, under overwhelming odds, but with clever battle plan + excellent spy efficiency.
VERGIS92 7 months ago
@VERGIS92 How was Stalingrad or Moscow won under overwhelming odds? The Red Army vastly outnumbered the Germans in both battles.
jackzero99 2 months ago
@SovietMudkipTheTiger Stalin didn't win anything... His paranoia nearly ripped Russia into nothing.
Togeita 1 year ago
@Togeita And how that ? the people loved him , the only one who hated him were the opponent of the state , even if stalin was a monster,even if he was a mass murderer , his paranoia and incredible tenacity in the war helped the russian win for sure.
SovietMudkipTheTiger 1 year ago
@SovietMudkipTheTiger Thats rubbish, he slaughtered all the experienced army commanders in 1939-41. He contributed to the practically useless Russian Defence in 1941. He was an awful leader. Murdering polical opponents and anyone he didnt like. He created a 'man made' famine which killed hundreds of thousands in the years before WW2.
I cant believe what you are saying, its incredible.
Xiolablu3 1 year ago
Thank You so Much for posting this series!! This is a very deep and complex analysis of the war!
jaxzurr 1 year ago 8
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jaxzurr 1 year ago
The Red Army man had as much to fear from his own side as from the enemy.
jakefree25 2 years ago
I think even more from his own getting hot by your mates if you stand still is not pleasant :-)
pikkeporretje 2 years ago
@jakefree25
that is idiotic. please stop posting such stupidity, jakefree
Nikitns 1 year ago
What do you fine stupid? Because in my opinion that's a very good analysis.
tessieralexandre 11 months ago
@tessieralexandre Dude, are you freaking moronic? Both the Germans and the Soviets were known for executing, real or suspected, deserts in great numbers.
Nikitns 11 months ago
hey awesome vid man! :) keep it up
capacopkilla123 2 years ago