OpenBSD Interview

[mgierb]

@craigslistflow just like you said "rumor"

[evilunixuser1]

Linux is for children, OpenBSD is for MEN.

[dennysamosir]

@evilunixuser1 indeed ..... 100% Agreed

[smujohnson]

i want to fuck those guys

[slycordinator]

@Ubernoob85

That 2007 exploit might've been more recent ... when I posted it 3 years ago... ;)

[MultiJamala]

Unix-Like I believe.

[salex2500]

if more people were actually using it I bet they'd find their holes faster LOL

[Snuskigaste]

@salex2500

That depends.

If the developers at OpenBSD starts to slack etc. there will be more holes on the system than there are now.

Usages isn't the thing that makes something vulnerable, it's the code and bugs that makes it vulnerable.

[salex2500]

@Snuskigaste my point was that you need some usage to start finding the bugs.

[Snuskigaste]

@salex2500

That depends.

There will never be a bug free software, so it wont really affect the process of finding them if the developers again are after fixing security holes and performance leak or instability.

But if you would find graphical bugs it wouldn't be as important to find / fix.

[Lawdrun]

normal person watching that: OMFG DEY R H4XX0RS

[PoppingShowerL]

J'aime beaucoup OpenBSD!

[r8qt7]

Theo van Psycho ... man the guy needs psychological support

[Antiks72]

@r8qt7 Who gives a shit. Give up the Linux Personality Cult. Judge the man on his handiwork ffs.

[r8qt7]

@Antiks72 okay ... lets compare features ... what is about a good smp support and the missing big kernel lock.

Linux rocks ....

[mgierb]

One more thing: one of the most used Open Source software is OpenSSH. And guess what? OpenSSH and OpenSSL had been made by the OpenBSD guys. Respect guaranteed I think :)

[Ishvires]

OpenBSD is the only OS you can fully trust and sleep quiet during the night.

[DaAvi8a]

If OpenBSD has had only 1 security hole since 8 years before the filming of this news report, how many has the Linux kernel or Ubuntu had?

[latte123]

Good ol' Theo! Great stuff!

**Rock on**, OpenBSD!

[bladerunner983]

Ya, its about time OpenBSD gets some respect ! All the "BSD" things in life are FREE.

[Ph4rOah]

Theo fails at humor.

[RINO2006]

they all gonna die from aortic disecation

[r8qt7]

Theo de Raadt is an arrogant idiot who hasn't been layed for a long time.

Get Linux - its cooler ...

[tenshitaiakuma]

OpenBSD is the base for OS X

[arenics]

You're a Nerd as well Theo LOL 1:42

[evilunixuser1]

I've been exposed to many flavors - SunOS, AIX, Solaris, HP-UX, Ultrix, Linux (Debian, RedHat, Slackware), FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD. The only two I despise are RedHat & HP-UX (very clunky) - otherwise, everything else was a good experience for me.

[joancatala]

Congratulations to Theo and to the Comunity, OpenBSD is a miracle in the Unix Universe :-)

[deksar]

Theo is a hero! OpenBSD is the most secure Operating System when it comes to networking, web hosting, firewalling, gateways..etc.. Linux is as crap as Windows....linux has a terrible unstable kernel...local / remote 0day exploits around the world, almost every month! Bullshit!

[tenshitaiakuma]

OpenBSD is the base for OS X

[omid11]

while bsd is the base of os x it's not openbsd i believe it's darwin

[tenshitaiakuma]

correction: it was actually FreeBSD

Darwin is the bootloader

[hal970fx]

Darwin is the base system's name which is based upon FreeBSD graphted on to the Mach microkernel. the bootloader for OS X is called bootx (not to be confused with the Open Source utility for booting *nix on oldworld G3s)

[tenshitaiakuma]

i read recently, and your right.

you deserve a metal, you are one of the few people to prove me wrong.

[r8qt7]

so what ... os X isn't that cool either ...

[koumoujin]

LOL Theo de Raadt can actually be polite. I wish more able developers could join OpenBSD and dump that Bloated blob called Linux. But Theo scares them away.

[darijo203]

Do you know what you have just written. How stupid it actually sounds???

And the most funniest thing here that none of you don't really understand what an OS is and haven't written a single line of code that can actually be useful to anyone.

[koumoujin]

You sure have an ego having first installed BSD two weeks ago. Could you point us to your amazing code? I have changed my mind since I wrote that comment, now I see that stupid people need flaming or they will never realize how stupid they are.

[darijo203]

Sure...Linux is trash for some reason, Windows is also capitalistic trash and "OPEN BSD IS THE BEST OS EVER MADE!" Why? "I don't know....but it's so cool! And I sound ultra smart when I say Linux is trash". Good luck!

[mgierb]

@koumoujin I think OpenBSD is doing well without Linux developers.

[anaphaxeon]

OpenBSD is UNIX not linux, go grab yourself an education.

[TheYouuTubeRipper]

Listen fat bastard. Go look at their Website. Even they call it a UNIX-like OS and for a reason.

It's code split off from NetBSD when Theo DeRaadt had a hissy fit with some of the other developers and OpenBSD was formed.

BSD's aren't UNIX because of licensing/name issues but it's code is derived from the same stable as the real UNIX (written by Thompson, Ritchie et al at Bell Labs in 69)

Don't try teach me anything about it Noobie. I've been in this since 1974 and written much kernel code.

[TheYouuTubeRipper]

And as for Linux, I don't believe I mentioned Linux.

Linux was created by Linus Torvalds. I don't like it because it's not UNIX. It's too mainstream and well supported for my liking & it's too full of ex-windows decampers who are jealous of Bill and his fortune.

They're not into it because they love UNIX. They're into it because they hate Windows.

And as far as an Education is concerned, I program in Assembly, C/C++. Perl & Java. I do sockets programming for BSD and Solaris so STFU and GTFO

[darijo203]

"I don't like it because it's not UNIX."

OMG WHAT A GOOD REASON!!!

I use Linux just because it works, alos for a programming! I use Solaris to provide some specific services. I use Windows to play FSX. I use BSD systems to explore. I use OpenVMS as a hobbyst. So you see, I'm not limited to something just because I hate it for some sentimental reasons.

[TheYouuTubeRipper]

Neither am I! I've used RH 7, Slackware, Corel, Novell, Turbolinux, Knoppix, DSL, Gentoo, Suse, and some others.

I even dare to say I like Windows (games). I think Win2000 was one of the best things MS released since DOS 3.0.

I use OpenBSD for PPPoE, NAT, PF, DNS (it's nice and secure). I use Solaris for programming in C/C++ (mostly Berkeley sockets apps).

My point is I believe in the best tool for the job. But yes, there is a bit of nerdy pride there when using UNIX as opposed to Win.

[tenshitaiakuma]

linux is OpenBSD shitty little brother

[r8qt7]

not quite ... openbsd has a bad file system performance isn't very good in smp support and the 'leader' is an arrogant jerk ...

[tenshitaiakuma]

freebsd is good enough to be the base for os x

[r8qt7]

why is this a quality property. os x can't even use numa - it's for pussies only

[hal970fx]

SMP is much better in 4.4, I have yet to test it in 4.5 because the intel xorg driver was broken when they switched from the i810 module.

[anaphaxeon]

And apples are definitely oranges then. They're both fruit so they must be the same.

[RenegadeFury]

@anaphaxeon It's not UNIX or Linux lol.

[evilunixuser1]

@RenegadeFury - OpenBSD IS Unix. But it cannot have the prestigious name due it not being a commercial release; such as Solaris, or AIX.

[moveaxebx]

@anaphaxeon

No, it's not unix.

[evilunixuser1]

@moveaxebx - Its Unix, yet not Unix. Unix in nature, but cannot be labeled Unix because the name itself would imply a commercial release ie: Solaris, AIX, SCO, etc.

[SonikkuZaHedgehog127]

Wrong.

[tigersim303]

Not quite - Mach kernel with userland based on FreeBSD 5 :)

[lhommewazoo]

OpenBSD est peut-etre le seul à avoir cette philosophie en ce qui concerne la sécurité ,et

c'est bien ce qui me donne envie d'abandonner certains systèmes Unix-like qui privilégient

la convivialité grace à de très esthétiques window manager au détriment de la sécurité!Est-ce le prix de la vulgarisation des systèmes informatiques?!

[gbPRAN]

"but we dont consider ourselves nerdies..." yeah right theo, look yourself in a fucking mirror and then go out and say that again =b, btw i love openbsd, ive been running it for 3 years now and its leet, ofc BSD owns linux tards, BSD code is way more advanced and secure

[TheYouuTubeRipper]

pf is terrific. I love it.

[313biniar]

OpenBSD installs smoother then FreeBSD IMHO

[TheYouuTubeRipper]

You're not wrong. I've installed it so many times over the years, if I didn't need to read, I could do it with my eyes shut!

I've also installed FreeBSD many many times and I can say without a doubt, OpenBSD is the easiest one by far. It's straight through. It's straight forward. No fancy shmancy packages to worry about. Just the bare minimum (plus games##.tgz but they're important - ATC and snake are great!) What can I say? I love it.

[evilunixuser1]

Cannot agree more - installing FreeBsd akin to Windows (almost) self installing. OpenBsd lets me be in control from the first keystroke to the final stroke of the pen.

[darijo203]

Just a note: OpenBSD doesnt support LBA so /boot must be before 1024 cylnder!

Otherwise you'll get kernel panic.

So partition it wisely :)

[Outlanderpsy]

I'm too stupid to install BSD.

[xjih78]

lol. No you're not. English is not my native language but I installed it. Try reading some stuff and experimenting. You will bump your head a couple of times and you will succeed. :) There are documents, books, some of which are free and online.

[TheYouuTubeRipper]

OpenBSD is one of the easiest and quickest UNIX/UNIX like OSes I've ever installed. I've done it so many times now over the years I can almost do it blindfolded.

[AppA]

Installing is one.

As for the other, using it would require some reading & reading & reading & reading & reading & reading & reading & reading & reading & reading & reading & *nix systems were not meant to be visually experienced...

...but that doesn't really say much about the documentation which CAN be treated with a visually oriented approach.

Which brings me to the people who do possess the knowledge, as spreading it is exactly where the eve to prosperity is found.

Think about it :)

[darijo203]

I have installed BSD two weeks ago and so far it looks smooth on the prompt. That port collection is amazing thing and very easy to dwn-tar-compile&install...viva pkg_add! :)

Im planing to install it as DNS server in my firm next week.

[dover02]

For those that want to take the jump with more transition...you can try out Gentoo. It's interesting but I used Gparted and shutdown xorg to type in a BSD command: shutdown -r now. Only for it to work. This rang a few bells and it turns out that Gentoo enjoys what BSD does.

Regardless, I still believe that BSD is still superior technically.

[joshuacc]

Open BSD es el mejor sistema operativo del mundo. El mejor en seguridad con criptografia integrada y con un firewall incorporado en su codigo.

[XMMartinX]

Only one security hole in the last 8 years? Ummm... NO. One *remote* hole, in the *default* install in the last 8 years. He doesn't mention it's only as long as you don't turn on anything that's disabled by default (which is shit a *lot* of people use) and have no other users (which isn't exactly uncommon either). That's a pretty big difference. There's been plenty of other holes. I hate how he always tries to make it sound like they never have any bugs.

[GhillieDhuGuardian]

He might have been nervous on camera. The OpenBSD web site front page clearly states "remote holes" and "default install". I have always taken that as a statement which reflects their attitude that Operating Systems should be "secure by default" and not have everything switched on from the install.

[kor0nis]

its still more secure than anything else, and although there are bugs, the developers pay lots of attention to them, and they usually fix them pretty quick

[dover02]

True that. *BSD holes are fixed before they are audited. Auditing = presenting the problem before the official release of the hole. This is not because it is kept secret but because of the strength and immediacy of the *BSD community.

[slycordinator]

And they must've had a recent remote hole because on their website it now says "Only two remote holes in the default install, in more than 10 years!"

Still, that's a pretty damn good track record.

[Ubernoob85]

@slycordinator Sorry if someone has already informed you but according to Wikipedia,

One remote hole in ~June 2002,

One on ~March 13, 2007, for a total of two.

[ShanePearl]

I've been using OpenBSD for about 7 years now. On my various Intel, PPC and UltraSPARC machines.

I love it. It is a nice base for which to build on. I prefer to install what I want, instead of removing tons of software and dodgy configs, only to *then* install what I want.

The documentation is fantastic too. They consider a documentation error to be a system bug and it shows in the quality.

[evolutionaryit]

OpenBSD is an amazingly secure and stable operating system. If you are not already familiar with it then go check it out at openbsd.org.

[Tyrax69]

Yes, I agree with you, it's completely bogus. OpenBSD does a lot of the UNIX (and UNIX-like) as well as open source community. I think it's about time OpenBSD gets respect.

[igsys]

Only £100,000 a year to run the openbsd project. Big corp's brand OpenSSH as thier own to make money, yet openbsd is making losses.

[xjih78]

corps are sh.. :)