You all white men are to blame for turning your women into fucking manipulative bitches. You assholes became too complacent with women and allow them to have affairs and shit like that and that's why they all want to just have open marriages and fuck whomever crosses their paths.
@mditrolio11 And no freedom. If that's preferable to you, then you're worse than a cheater and have no high ground from which to complain about the moral failings of others.
Was there ever a choice to begin with? It's like me punching you in the face a taking your wallet / purse then coming back 5 mins later and asking for permission to keep your wallet or purse. She cheats on her husband for two years, then after two years wants to ask permission to have an open marriage not because she wants to come clean but she wants to have a better sexual experience, and she is also a jealous person. This chick is a living contradiction & and man's worst nightmare.
This is fucked up a buddy of mine experimented with this kinda thing. Later they went back to monogamy but it took a couple years b/c they were to afraid to ask each other
This wide spread contempt for open marriage is rather hypocritical when some people (mostly men) commit suicide from alimony payment stress and other complications from divorce. Open Marriage is a good way to let out those feelings of boredom and have some variety with other spouses, but have a trusted & loved one back home. And she/he could have freedom to be with someone else when she/he gets tired of the monotony. However, cheating on someone BEFORE the agreement is wrong and actual cheating.
"who gives a crap about what right and wrong for somebody else"?! THIS IS HER GOD-DAMNED HUSBAND!! its not about either one of them, but BOTH, at the SAME TIME!
his ego? are you guys def? did you even read your wedding vows? you guys are a joke, get off the internet.
seriously? if that was my wife, the only reason I would stay together would be because of the kids.
and only until after they are all 18 and out.
I can understand if her husband doesn't talk with her about things, but that is NO excuse. and if they don't work on that level, why the fuck try and keep this lie of a marriage together? maybe its HER who doesn't want to talk to her hubby.
Seeing since this was posted over 3 years ago, I'm very sure that this marriage is long over. This woman is maybe the most self centered bitch I've ever heard about. She's cheating on a good man; great provider and great father. What is this chick thinking? She's only with the guy because of the money.I don't believe open marriage would fix this; infact I doubt open marriage ever works. It's a very stupid thing;someone will fall for someone else eventuallyand leave the other person in the dust.
@Michaeldean88 I disagree. I believe that, if an Open Marriage goes right, they'll release their feelings of boredom, loneliness or whatever, but come back to being happily married after they're done with the separation. Of course, it could go the other way too. But what I'm saying is if an open marriage is handled correctly, people can have extramarital sex, but still love each other. Sex isn't love, mind you.
@vgman94 Yeah and we all live in a world of bunny rabbits, unicorns, and marshmellow rainbows. If you payed attention to what I said, you'd have noticed that I said that I doubt it works. Now it might have worked for a people; but it doesn't work 999% of the time. Sex isn't love huh? Oh but it is, it is such an important part of a relationship, and when it doesn't happen or isn't going well that relationship turns into the ultimate relationshit. (part 1)
@vgman94 Yeah and we all live in a world of bunny rabbits, unicorns, and marshmellow rainbows. If you payed attention to what I said, you'd have noticed that I said that I doubt it works. Now it might have worked for a people; but it doesn't work 99.9% of the time. Sex isn't love huh? Oh but it is, it is such an important part of a relationship, and when it doesn't happen or isn't going well that relationship turns into the ultimate relationshit. (part 1)
@vgman94 (part 2) Now tell me bud: How'd you feel if your partner came in one day and said ''Yeah hun listen; I'm gonna start fucking other people" , "You're gettin' kinda stale" . That would rip you into a million pieces, and you know it! This shit almost never works,if you're planning on having sex with other people, or having sex with outer people the relationship is all but over period. Like I said eventually the one you're married too or dating gets replaced with another and totally crushed
@Michaeldean88 Ok I was kinda heated and rushed my typing made a few more errors. "if you are planning on having sex with other people, or are having sex with other people, the relationship is all but over; period." ******
@Michaeldean88 There's no implication that she'd say "you're getting kinda stale" or vice versa. You're confusing open marriage with polyamory and seem to have the idea that everyone is full of jealousy and that most dates lead to love. Also, open marriage is an agreement. Some people have an open marriage, but never actually date or fuck anyone else. You have a depressingly narrow view of life. Please try to understand more liberal views. Not everything is black and white.
@vgman94 The fucking word is polyandry**** I believe; and oh yeah it sorta is polyandry. Umm let's see how a hillbilly like me might describe this. 'ye can wipe a hogs ass, put some perfume on it, slap a big ol' blue bow on it's head, and call it by a different name. But ya know somethin'? It's still a damn hog. It doesn't matter what you think or say now. When your partner walks up to you and brings this subject to light; you're going to react that way. It will eventually kill your relationship
@vgman94 There are gray areas in choosing who we love, not how we express love. Having sex with other people is a break of a bond of trust. Sex itself is dubbed "the act of making love". We all possess jealousy, greed, distrust, and hate. You are a fool to think otherwise, and a hypocrite in saying that you don't. You blast me with liberalism and call me ignorant, the usual tactic of people with no real feeling of a sense of self in their lives. I am finished here. Let me be, leave me alone.
Jealousy is not about the ego. Babies can get jealous if they see their mothers holding another baby. Its natural and normal and healthy to want to keep whats yours. Its not about being controlling it's about feelings and emotions that occur in humans. To bury those emotions and ignore your feelings so that you can bang random people is crazy and lame. Im cool with open relationships just call it what it is and dont pretend its normal or healthy
I think this woman has realized something: a single person can't meet your EVERY need. The sooner people realize that, the less people will have these unrealistic expectations for their partner and the less people will search elsewhere to meet those needs. Though intimacy is important, and I feel bad that this woman isn't getting the intimacy she needs, perhaps making the decision to end the affair and seek counseling could save ur relationship with ur husband. Just a suggestion.
Message to Dan: Go out to the garage and pick up some tools and do some guy stuff. Come back in the house when your woman has dinner ready, then slap her on the ass with a grimy man hand. Women need these shallow displays of masculinity to feel reassured that you are the leader. Your clean shave, pressed shirts, and polite demeanor make her wonder about your role as the alpha male she secretly wants.
@pinkbritt17 u make him feel that he's the superior one(even though he might not be in ur opinion), just act like that...men like to be superior when women let them be one, let them be dominant once ina while...don't bully ur husband in2 acting manly coz thats a serious turn off coz it looks like you are the one carrying a set of balls in your pants...n we don't like that, we want woman to be womanly to be manly around you!! simple!
@kendigjl ok u want guys to be sensitive n romantic n all n also ballsey! u want ur mate to "connect" with you perfectly n be charming n all but then u also want them to slap you back to the kitchen,what the fuck do you women want?? when men were MEN n dominant in the society you demanded equality n to tone down the superior being perception, also u want them to be soft, like n now you want that dominant feature back n want to be treated like "slap me in the ass while i make you a sandwich"!!
@kendigjl u expect men to be everything! what about you women?ever thought how we want you to be?? a woman!be less like a man!! today's so called "woman" have confidence as if they are carrying balls in their pants,thats not we are attracted to! we dont want that, we want to c a woman blush, be a little shy, mystifying,in short, don't grow a pair of danglers if you want a man to behave like a real man around you!!men like to be dominant when they are around women who make them feel superior
@kendigjl no its just that ur demands are just like a 40 year old desperate wife in need of a black slong....n u must be gay coz u complaining about men like women do, which side r u on u know....its ok m not a homophobe, m very open minded..its cool, u wanna a sweaty man slap ur ass while u make dinner for him, k...sorry for the misunderstanding
@TheDjn123 Why are you fantasizing about me being a housewife, and being in need of a black 'slong'? Never mind, I think the answer is pretty apparent.
I have been reading some of these comments. I think there is a big difference between an open marriage and cheating on your spouse. Also I don't see any evidence where an open marriage is damaging to children if handled responsibliy. I know poly couples who have raised very successful. It's the "divorce" that I have seen as far more damaging to children.
(done reading the letter). Look, stupid bitch, your husband needs to get a fucking divorce from your disgusting ass. Gross, irresponsible, arrogant and childish.
Jealousy is not a defect....it is mother natures device / gauge to tell you when you are being taken advantage of. If she feels taken advantage of by standing by while he has his fun, imagine how he might feel about standing by while she has hers.
you two sugar coat everything. the chicks a bitch, and her daughters have a great example. I love how you too are like well don't phrase it like an affair phrase it as an open relationship.
Blah blah blah, and then you wonder why people go off. Tell this self centered bitch the truth you can't have your cake and eat it too. If her husband (the meal ticket) has an ounce of integrity he will get a great divorce attorney and kick this two timing bitch out. Unfortunately this P.O.S. will probably make him look like the only problem in the lie she calls a marriage. Lets pretend this is OK, give her more soft ball advice. Too bad for her kids, hope they don't grow up like mommy.
@TheBelle1714 I've been married to the most amazing woman for over 31 years. There are times it is hard there are times it is easy. It is about respect and commitment two outdated concepts that Americans used to admire and apply in their lives. If we pursue only selfish pleasure then those around us will and do suffer for our mistake(s).
she cant be having sex with a man and be jealous that her husband may do it... she doesnt make since if you ask me. and maybe she should get a vibraor :D
@karissaLOVEScraig lol no kidding.. i think it's so funny when people cheat on a partner but when their partner cheats on them, they get angry.. so hypocritical
If it were the hubby who wrote the letter, ALL would think he is a scumbag/selfish. That he has a problem with commitment. But the wife did this. But it would be his "ego" that hurts and not his feelings from the betrayal? How would a woman respond to such betrayal? Is it the same? Would she do anything she can to destroy him? I feel for the hubby/kids. Wife will eventually leave w/kids(due to family court)hubby/skids will pay dearly while she fucks around. A prediction.
SHE is trying to convince HIM of an open marriage? I'd say that having sex with other women would be a pretty damn powerful argument in favor!
Admitting the affair: After the open marriage has been working for a while, after he has been with a few other women, that would be the time to wiggle into admitting it.
You all white men are to blame for turning your women into fucking manipulative bitches. You assholes became too complacent with women and allow them to have affairs and shit like that and that's why they all want to just have open marriages and fuck whomever crosses their paths.
CamiloSanchez1979 1 week ago
@mditrolio11 And no freedom. If that's preferable to you, then you're worse than a cheater and have no high ground from which to complain about the moral failings of others.
TheCah13 5 months ago
Was there ever a choice to begin with? It's like me punching you in the face a taking your wallet / purse then coming back 5 mins later and asking for permission to keep your wallet or purse. She cheats on her husband for two years, then after two years wants to ask permission to have an open marriage not because she wants to come clean but she wants to have a better sexual experience, and she is also a jealous person. This chick is a living contradiction & and man's worst nightmare.
FitnessGuru1988 6 months ago
This is fucked up a buddy of mine experimented with this kinda thing. Later they went back to monogamy but it took a couple years b/c they were to afraid to ask each other
angryasian2 6 months ago
fucking self centered bitch, dump her ass to the curb and move on buddy
Tomahawk1999 9 months ago
just cheat like everyone else! lol
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This wide spread contempt for open marriage is rather hypocritical when some people (mostly men) commit suicide from alimony payment stress and other complications from divorce. Open Marriage is a good way to let out those feelings of boredom and have some variety with other spouses, but have a trusted & loved one back home. And she/he could have freedom to be with someone else when she/he gets tired of the monotony. However, cheating on someone BEFORE the agreement is wrong and actual cheating.
vgman94 11 months ago
get the whore a dildo or leave the bitch even if you love him. these woman is not in love with her husband but she wants the dick.
tshorse 11 months ago
"who gives a crap about what right and wrong for somebody else"?! THIS IS HER GOD-DAMNED HUSBAND!! its not about either one of them, but BOTH, at the SAME TIME!
his ego? are you guys def? did you even read your wedding vows? you guys are a joke, get off the internet.
anom543 1 year ago
get a divorce, that would work.
seriously? if that was my wife, the only reason I would stay together would be because of the kids.
and only until after they are all 18 and out.
I can understand if her husband doesn't talk with her about things, but that is NO excuse. and if they don't work on that level, why the fuck try and keep this lie of a marriage together? maybe its HER who doesn't want to talk to her hubby.
this bitch needs counseling.
anom543 1 year ago
what are you two drinking
hashbrownham 1 year ago
marriage is about love not about sex
MrEriksalas84 1 year ago
Seeing since this was posted over 3 years ago, I'm very sure that this marriage is long over. This woman is maybe the most self centered bitch I've ever heard about. She's cheating on a good man; great provider and great father. What is this chick thinking? She's only with the guy because of the money.I don't believe open marriage would fix this; infact I doubt open marriage ever works. It's a very stupid thing;someone will fall for someone else eventuallyand leave the other person in the dust.
Michaeldean88 1 year ago
@Michaeldean88 I disagree. I believe that, if an Open Marriage goes right, they'll release their feelings of boredom, loneliness or whatever, but come back to being happily married after they're done with the separation. Of course, it could go the other way too. But what I'm saying is if an open marriage is handled correctly, people can have extramarital sex, but still love each other. Sex isn't love, mind you.
vgman94 11 months ago
@vgman94 Yeah and we all live in a world of bunny rabbits, unicorns, and marshmellow rainbows. If you payed attention to what I said, you'd have noticed that I said that I doubt it works. Now it might have worked for a people; but it doesn't work 999% of the time. Sex isn't love huh? Oh but it is, it is such an important part of a relationship, and when it doesn't happen or isn't going well that relationship turns into the ultimate relationshit. (part 1)
Michaeldean88 11 months ago
@Michaeldean88 correction for a typing error ( for a few people)**
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@vgman94 Yeah and we all live in a world of bunny rabbits, unicorns, and marshmellow rainbows. If you payed attention to what I said, you'd have noticed that I said that I doubt it works. Now it might have worked for a people; but it doesn't work 99.9% of the time. Sex isn't love huh? Oh but it is, it is such an important part of a relationship, and when it doesn't happen or isn't going well that relationship turns into the ultimate relationshit. (part 1)
Michaeldean88 11 months ago
@vgman94 (part 2) Now tell me bud: How'd you feel if your partner came in one day and said ''Yeah hun listen; I'm gonna start fucking other people" , "You're gettin' kinda stale" . That would rip you into a million pieces, and you know it! This shit almost never works,if you're planning on having sex with other people, or having sex with outer people the relationship is all but over period. Like I said eventually the one you're married too or dating gets replaced with another and totally crushed
Michaeldean88 11 months ago
@Michaeldean88 Ok I was kinda heated and rushed my typing made a few more errors. "if you are planning on having sex with other people, or are having sex with other people, the relationship is all but over; period." ******
Michaeldean88 11 months ago
@Michaeldean88 There's no implication that she'd say "you're getting kinda stale" or vice versa. You're confusing open marriage with polyamory and seem to have the idea that everyone is full of jealousy and that most dates lead to love. Also, open marriage is an agreement. Some people have an open marriage, but never actually date or fuck anyone else. You have a depressingly narrow view of life. Please try to understand more liberal views. Not everything is black and white.
vgman94 11 months ago
@vgman94 The fucking word is polyandry**** I believe; and oh yeah it sorta is polyandry. Umm let's see how a hillbilly like me might describe this. 'ye can wipe a hogs ass, put some perfume on it, slap a big ol' blue bow on it's head, and call it by a different name. But ya know somethin'? It's still a damn hog. It doesn't matter what you think or say now. When your partner walks up to you and brings this subject to light; you're going to react that way. It will eventually kill your relationship
Michaeldean88 11 months ago
@vgman94 There are gray areas in choosing who we love, not how we express love. Having sex with other people is a break of a bond of trust. Sex itself is dubbed "the act of making love". We all possess jealousy, greed, distrust, and hate. You are a fool to think otherwise, and a hypocrite in saying that you don't. You blast me with liberalism and call me ignorant, the usual tactic of people with no real feeling of a sense of self in their lives. I am finished here. Let me be, leave me alone.
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Jealousy is not about the ego. Babies can get jealous if they see their mothers holding another baby. Its natural and normal and healthy to want to keep whats yours. Its not about being controlling it's about feelings and emotions that occur in humans. To bury those emotions and ignore your feelings so that you can bang random people is crazy and lame. Im cool with open relationships just call it what it is and dont pretend its normal or healthy
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this an't right God made it that each person has 1 mate
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mskittyz100 1 year ago
I think this woman has realized something: a single person can't meet your EVERY need. The sooner people realize that, the less people will have these unrealistic expectations for their partner and the less people will search elsewhere to meet those needs. Though intimacy is important, and I feel bad that this woman isn't getting the intimacy she needs, perhaps making the decision to end the affair and seek counseling could save ur relationship with ur husband. Just a suggestion.
mon103 1 year ago
she can take a gun and shoot her pussy
stinghawk99 1 year ago 3
Message to Dan: Go out to the garage and pick up some tools and do some guy stuff. Come back in the house when your woman has dinner ready, then slap her on the ass with a grimy man hand. Women need these shallow displays of masculinity to feel reassured that you are the leader. Your clean shave, pressed shirts, and polite demeanor make her wonder about your role as the alpha male she secretly wants.
kendigjl 1 year ago
@kendigjl i totally agree, all i want is my husband to be a man and stop being this luvy duvy guy.
pinkbritt17 1 year ago
@pinkbritt17 u make him feel that he's the superior one(even though he might not be in ur opinion), just act like that...men like to be superior when women let them be one, let them be dominant once ina while...don't bully ur husband in2 acting manly coz thats a serious turn off coz it looks like you are the one carrying a set of balls in your pants...n we don't like that, we want woman to be womanly to be manly around you!! simple!
TheDjn123 1 year ago
@kendigjl ok u want guys to be sensitive n romantic n all n also ballsey! u want ur mate to "connect" with you perfectly n be charming n all but then u also want them to slap you back to the kitchen,what the fuck do you women want?? when men were MEN n dominant in the society you demanded equality n to tone down the superior being perception, also u want them to be soft, like n now you want that dominant feature back n want to be treated like "slap me in the ass while i make you a sandwich"!!
TheDjn123 1 year ago
@kendigjl u expect men to be everything! what about you women?ever thought how we want you to be?? a woman!be less like a man!! today's so called "woman" have confidence as if they are carrying balls in their pants,thats not we are attracted to! we dont want that, we want to c a woman blush, be a little shy, mystifying,in short, don't grow a pair of danglers if you want a man to behave like a real man around you!!men like to be dominant when they are around women who make them feel superior
TheDjn123 1 year ago
@TheDjn123 Hey stupid, where exactly did you get the idea that I'm a woman?
kendigjl 1 year ago
@kendigjl from the way u commented!! well i guess oops! m sorry..u just must b very gay
TheDjn123 1 year ago
@TheDjn123 I think it's you that must be gay, since you confuse men with women.
kendigjl 1 year ago
@kendigjl no its just that ur demands are just like a 40 year old desperate wife in need of a black slong....n u must be gay coz u complaining about men like women do, which side r u on u know....its ok m not a homophobe, m very open minded..its cool, u wanna a sweaty man slap ur ass while u make dinner for him, k...sorry for the misunderstanding
TheDjn123 1 year ago
@TheDjn123 Why are you fantasizing about me being a housewife, and being in need of a black 'slong'? Never mind, I think the answer is pretty apparent.
kendigjl 1 year ago
This woman is pig
ovejaquesabe 1 year ago
I have been reading some of these comments. I think there is a big difference between an open marriage and cheating on your spouse. Also I don't see any evidence where an open marriage is damaging to children if handled responsibliy. I know poly couples who have raised very successful. It's the "divorce" that I have seen as far more damaging to children.
skipf777 1 year ago
Wow! almost sounds like my story except i'm not having an affair.
nambypamby34 1 year ago 3
(done reading the letter). Look, stupid bitch, your husband needs to get a fucking divorce from your disgusting ass. Gross, irresponsible, arrogant and childish.
arKat17 1 year ago
I think they offered very good advice.
kimhessdivorceguru 1 year ago
Jealousy is not a defect....it is mother natures device / gauge to tell you when you are being taken advantage of. If she feels taken advantage of by standing by while he has his fun, imagine how he might feel about standing by while she has hers.
999Atwood 2 years ago
She has issues with mental illness period. NARCISSISM...
999Atwood 2 years ago
you two sugar coat everything. the chicks a bitch, and her daughters have a great example. I love how you too are like well don't phrase it like an affair phrase it as an open relationship.
alek3r 2 years ago
LMFAO
she doesn't have the balls to tell her husband to do what she wants to do in bed, yet she wants all the money he has.
she's a bitch and the husband deserves better!
perspectiveck 2 years ago 4
Blah blah blah, and then you wonder why people go off. Tell this self centered bitch the truth you can't have your cake and eat it too. If her husband (the meal ticket) has an ounce of integrity he will get a great divorce attorney and kick this two timing bitch out. Unfortunately this P.O.S. will probably make him look like the only problem in the lie she calls a marriage. Lets pretend this is OK, give her more soft ball advice. Too bad for her kids, hope they don't grow up like mommy.
jjohn77700 3 years ago 20
@jjohn77700 no kidding.. meal ticket is right... fuck marriage.
m3tallih0lic 1 year ago
@jjohn77700 Maybe he isn't doing a good job in the bedroom
TheBelle1714 2 months ago
@TheBelle1714 I've been married to the most amazing woman for over 31 years. There are times it is hard there are times it is easy. It is about respect and commitment two outdated concepts that Americans used to admire and apply in their lives. If we pursue only selfish pleasure then those around us will and do suffer for our mistake(s).
jjohn77700 2 months ago
she cant be having sex with a man and be jealous that her husband may do it... she doesnt make since if you ask me. and maybe she should get a vibraor :D
karissaLOVEScraig 3 years ago 17
@karissaLOVEScraig lol no kidding.. i think it's so funny when people cheat on a partner but when their partner cheats on them, they get angry.. so hypocritical
m3tallih0lic 1 year ago
an open marriage is one of the most selfish concepts ive ever heard. you had the kids, accept your responsibility
jonnniefivemiles 3 years ago 6
Interesting, she claims to have jealousy issues while she is having an affair herself !
Talk of preserving the cake and ingesting it too.
utkarshkrishna 3 years ago 3
If it were the hubby who wrote the letter, ALL would think he is a scumbag/selfish. That he has a problem with commitment. But the wife did this. But it would be his "ego" that hurts and not his feelings from the betrayal? How would a woman respond to such betrayal? Is it the same? Would she do anything she can to destroy him? I feel for the hubby/kids. Wife will eventually leave w/kids(due to family court)hubby/skids will pay dearly while she fucks around. A prediction.
Timmmay33 4 years ago 6
SHE is trying to convince HIM of an open marriage? I'd say that having sex with other women would be a pretty damn powerful argument in favor!
Admitting the affair: After the open marriage has been working for a while, after he has been with a few other women, that would be the time to wiggle into admitting it.
Mattmon2 4 years ago 2
You are treating the subject with realism and intelligence. I wonder why don't have more comments here. Good work.
frafor 4 years ago 3