@thedirtydeltas So what you are saying is that there's nothing wrong with cutting millions of trees every year to make paper? Wow. That's a fucked up morality you got there, man.
@thedirtydeltas You think people recycle their books after they have read em? That's naïve. And the very fact that you would suggest such a thing means that you are tacitly admitting a problem with paper books.
@GreyAutumn Your naïve for assuming that the IPAD won't end up in a china's wasteland polluting the earth with its foul chemicals in 3 years time when the next consumer addiction comes along.And for assuming just because something has lights and looks nice its better books are fine,yes recycling happens.Go back to your self deluded sellout life buy another coke,listen to your crappy Justin Beiber music MP3 on Itunes,go back to being sucker for corporate satan I-cock, that is your folly.
@GreyAutumn But when a tornado rips a jolly hole through your room,or and earthquake buries your dog,or the crops don't grow because the heavy metals leached into soils don't go crying to Steve Jobs for making yet more shit you while african children starve and bleed.
Check out the book that inspired "Sound Awake" by Karnivool in pdf format and tell me what you think. This is the future of ebooks right here. We think this has not only ever been done in literature but also in music. This ebook has a gold record sound track that connects with "gamers" who you like to refer to as a target market .
Absolutely ridiculous. E-books are not dull. The convenience of receiving e-books delivered wirelessly to my screen is quite convenient - I was willing to pay $250 to acquire my Kindle for this precise convenience.
Yeah then there is the whole thing about visual people, aural people, tactile, etc. I find that reading a book with my eyes makes a deeper impression but audiobooks can be good too. I also run on treadmills occasionally. :]
Hmm not necessarily. If one has a particular imagination, the reading of words and the stark appearance of the words themselves arranged in a certain way can bring a magic that the spoken text can't come closed to.
I'm thinking of authors like Cormac McCarthy - the body of written language in books like that are almost artistic in their own right.
Of course non-fiction works well with audiobook format.
Hmm, I'd say gamers are actually voracious consumers of genere literature if not mainstream fiction. Fantasy and science fiction are staples of video games because they audience is the same for both. There are some subgenere books based in these gamers worlds as well, although as they are premised on a gimmick I haven't read any of them.
Anybody who's serious about exploring storytelling with an interactive element needs to look into what's called "interactive fiction," or what used to be called "text adventures." This medium has been used by some very literate game authors in the last decade-and-a-half to involve the reader in the story in very novel ways. The games are entirely free, and revolve around the newsgroup rec . arts . int-fiction -- Google "Emily Short" for one of the best authors and her games.
So he thinks the eBook readers of the future will be hyper-interactive and visual? Umm.... has he ever heard of a GameBoy, a PSP, a cellphone, etc.? He needs to leave Penguin and go work for a game company if he thinks that's the future of ALL storytelling. In the mean time there will always be a market for people who just want to READ.
That's exactly what he's saying; if people want to read traditional type stories they will read them in their traditional format, namely books. So the future of digital story telling won't be the replacement of paper with screens, it will be entirely different story content for the new format. Listen more carefully next time.
It's a buzz word for people who haven't used the internet in 15 years and are seeing all these web applications that are running in their browser. They're inefficient and ornamental, so they're clearly some highly evolved version of the web, like the next version or something!
It's so goofy. It doesn't make a bit of sense. The web by nature doesn't correspond to versions... it's always growing and changing. Just because the masses are using popular websites and apps, doesn't somehow make this the second version of the web. It's arbitrary. It's stupid even if it is just symbolic. How can one possibly gauge it? It's unfortunate that the media is completely stupid and latches on to garbage terms like this... then non-experts perpetuate it.
I didn't really mean that the media are experts. They certainly take things like this and run with them... but then again, the mainstream media is just the face of corporations, so I think your point is valid. But in the end I think it's the average, non-expert, joe-public type of person that allow things like this to carry on. It seems that popularity is enough to make something valid to most people even without merit... but then again, I'm not a sociologist or in marketing. Cheers.
E-readers serve an important function, they are mobile and reduce size. Instead of carrying around 5 newspapers, you can carry a tablet that has all of them. Most people don't need creative new ways to stay interested in reading, some just want more efficient ways to do the same.
I am not too interested in the examples he gave but it's nice to see that people are trying something new.
It probably be several years before there is a large amount of content in the new formats as writing book takes some time and if the author has to suss out many different plots and characters it adds to that time. So until it is proven that it sellable format I think the old linear format will be the norm.
cod's wallop
henrooo 7 months ago
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thedirtydeltas 1 year ago
@thedirtydeltas So what you are saying is that there's nothing wrong with cutting millions of trees every year to make paper? Wow. That's a fucked up morality you got there, man.
GreyAutumn 10 months ago
@GreyAutumn I love trees as much as the next guy, and one word to you fucking tard its called "recycling"
thedirtydeltas 10 months ago
@thedirtydeltas You think people recycle their books after they have read em? That's naïve. And the very fact that you would suggest such a thing means that you are tacitly admitting a problem with paper books.
GreyAutumn 10 months ago
@GreyAutumn Your naïve for assuming that the IPAD won't end up in a china's wasteland polluting the earth with its foul chemicals in 3 years time when the next consumer addiction comes along.And for assuming just because something has lights and looks nice its better books are fine,yes recycling happens.Go back to your self deluded sellout life buy another coke,listen to your crappy Justin Beiber music MP3 on Itunes,go back to being sucker for corporate satan I-cock, that is your folly.
thedirtydeltas 10 months ago
@GreyAutumn But when a tornado rips a jolly hole through your room,or and earthquake buries your dog,or the crops don't grow because the heavy metals leached into soils don't go crying to Steve Jobs for making yet more shit you while african children starve and bleed.
thedirtydeltas 10 months ago
@thedirtydeltas You better take care of that sore butt so that it doesn't get infected. Trust me, you do not want butt infection.
GreyAutumn 10 months ago
@GreyAutumn Lame comeback man .....lame.
thedirtydeltas 10 months ago
@thedirtydeltas There was nothing else to say after your tirade of insanity.
GreyAutumn 10 months ago
@GreyAutumn hey man just have fun with it,this is youtube its all about the tirades!
thedirtydeltas 10 months ago
Check out the book that inspired "Sound Awake" by Karnivool in pdf format and tell me what you think. This is the future of ebooks right here. We think this has not only ever been done in literature but also in music. This ebook has a gold record sound track that connects with "gamers" who you like to refer to as a target market .
go to smashwords and search for "The Shadowbelt"
splat78423 1 year ago
read, share, imagine, learn, write and...quit having babies!
berserkerkev 2 years ago 4
what a load of bs
yeah i clearly see that instead of reading a book, in bed with a cup of milk, I'm going to click my way through google maps, because thats the FUTURE!
there is only so much you can do with multimedia before it becomes inconvienient, bloated, convoluted and bothersome.
TRAdamTM 2 years ago 6
Absolutely ridiculous. E-books are not dull. The convenience of receiving e-books delivered wirelessly to my screen is quite convenient - I was willing to pay $250 to acquire my Kindle for this precise convenience.
sprintmiles 2 years ago
twitter maps XD
onukoll 2 years ago
For anything that doesn't need illustrative precision, Audiobooks > Books.
I don't see how the scanning of endless lines of symbols can match the comfortable experience of listening to storytelling or voice acting.
HiAdrian 2 years ago
re:HiAdrian
Real book = running on a road
Audiobook = treadmill
One lets you choose the pace, tone, and scenery organically. The other chooses those for you.
planetdarwin 2 years ago 3
Fair enough, people clearly differ in this regard.
Audio leaves enough room for my imagination but i see your point about defining one's own pace.
I never enjoyed reading, so it's a necessary evil for me. I try to avoid it for non-educational purposes :)
HiAdrian 2 years ago
re:HiAdrian
Yeah then there is the whole thing about visual people, aural people, tactile, etc. I find that reading a book with my eyes makes a deeper impression but audiobooks can be good too. I also run on treadmills occasionally. :]
planetdarwin 2 years ago
Hmm not necessarily. If one has a particular imagination, the reading of words and the stark appearance of the words themselves arranged in a certain way can bring a magic that the spoken text can't come closed to.
I'm thinking of authors like Cormac McCarthy - the body of written language in books like that are almost artistic in their own right.
Of course non-fiction works well with audiobook format.
FreeInquisition 2 years ago
Video does not want to load. :(
Mackingster 2 years ago
0:50 Still not going to solve the DRM problem.
anthonzi 2 years ago
seems pretty cool, actually.
wildnine00 2 years ago
Hmm, I'd say gamers are actually voracious consumers of genere literature if not mainstream fiction. Fantasy and science fiction are staples of video games because they audience is the same for both. There are some subgenere books based in these gamers worlds as well, although as they are premised on a gimmick I haven't read any of them.
RomTheSpaceknight 2 years ago 2
Anybody who's serious about exploring storytelling with an interactive element needs to look into what's called "interactive fiction," or what used to be called "text adventures." This medium has been used by some very literate game authors in the last decade-and-a-half to involve the reader in the story in very novel ways. The games are entirely free, and revolve around the newsgroup rec . arts . int-fiction -- Google "Emily Short" for one of the best authors and her games.
JasonMelancon 2 years ago
Dungeons & Dragons...another great way.
Plissken07 2 years ago
hear here
Keylimedelight 2 years ago
So he thinks the eBook readers of the future will be hyper-interactive and visual? Umm.... has he ever heard of a GameBoy, a PSP, a cellphone, etc.? He needs to leave Penguin and go work for a game company if he thinks that's the future of ALL storytelling. In the mean time there will always be a market for people who just want to READ.
planetdarwin 2 years ago
That's exactly what he's saying; if people want to read traditional type stories they will read them in their traditional format, namely books. So the future of digital story telling won't be the replacement of paper with screens, it will be entirely different story content for the new format. Listen more carefully next time.
Lazzzyeye 2 years ago
What's wrong with "web 2 technology?"
dukehey2 2 years ago
It's a buzz word for people who haven't used the internet in 15 years and are seeing all these web applications that are running in their browser. They're inefficient and ornamental, so they're clearly some highly evolved version of the web, like the next version or something!
LokiClock 2 years ago 2
It's so goofy. It doesn't make a bit of sense. The web by nature doesn't correspond to versions... it's always growing and changing. Just because the masses are using popular websites and apps, doesn't somehow make this the second version of the web. It's arbitrary. It's stupid even if it is just symbolic. How can one possibly gauge it? It's unfortunate that the media is completely stupid and latches on to garbage terms like this... then non-experts perpetuate it.
thecamlayton 2 years ago 2
Really it's more a corporate buzzword. News outlets are just more of the buzzword-perpetuating non-experts.
LokiClock 2 years ago
I didn't really mean that the media are experts. They certainly take things like this and run with them... but then again, the mainstream media is just the face of corporations, so I think your point is valid. But in the end I think it's the average, non-expert, joe-public type of person that allow things like this to carry on. It seems that popularity is enough to make something valid to most people even without merit... but then again, I'm not a sociologist or in marketing. Cheers.
thecamlayton 2 years ago
E-readers serve an important function, they are mobile and reduce size. Instead of carrying around 5 newspapers, you can carry a tablet that has all of them. Most people don't need creative new ways to stay interested in reading, some just want more efficient ways to do the same.
drealm 2 years ago 7
I am not too interested in the examples he gave but it's nice to see that people are trying something new.
It probably be several years before there is a large amount of content in the new formats as writing book takes some time and if the author has to suss out many different plots and characters it adds to that time. So until it is proven that it sellable format I think the old linear format will be the norm.
Ralajer 2 years ago
I prefer old- fashioned, regular books
ashestoyoursoul 2 years ago 3
Yeah hypertext novels and stuff would be cool. Still, I think ebooks are pretty relevant.
solipsist8 2 years ago 4