"Thus, late fall up to early winter is very important for deer herd managers to impact and influence fawn production, so make sure the plant communities on your property is properly managed deer habitat. " Deer Hunting and Management TX
ok if hunting isnt doing anything lets start mass extiction.....lets get some automatic weapons and all walk through the woods and blast away anything that moves.....you people are pathetic...hunting will never stop...it never has..so get used to it
Me...I hunt for meat, not for sport, not for animal control, but for meat (not that I have anything against those who do). My dad always taught us respect of the animal. I cant go to the food market & buy venison or pheasant, so I have to get it on my own. Survival of the strongest, and my God given dominion over animal. Nothing makes me more angry then to see a deer splattered on the highway that could have gone to feed a starving family. if It helps control deer population, then all the better
"Dominion" does not mean to destroy or kill sentient beings, God wanted you to be the caretaker.
Sorry the "food" excuse don't fly here because if its really about "food" you would not be here making excuses you be out surviving. Deer Vehicle Accidents has GONE UP as the result of hunting so what does that say to you?
I believe that every hunter should eat what they kill EVERYTHING not dump it to the pantries. With the risk of prions(CWD/Mad deer disease) hunters are risking innocent human lives for prions are very deadly. Those carcasses are non-usda inspected so who is to know and its easy to "give" what you don't want isn't it? The "give to the pantries" are a great way to put a fake halo over the sadist head.
You want effective deer control bring back the big cats! The overpopulation of any prey species is lack of natural predators.
Im willing to bet that 99% of the people that hunt deer (or any animal) are no better then poachers, thieves & murderers. Deserving of being hung up skinned & having only the meat brought back for burial. They WASTE sooooooo much! The only part of a deer I see no need of is, shit, piss & blood. Any that leave less should never be allowed to hunt again!!!
Thank you liberated and what also important is to banish sports hunting that is why there are overpopulation problem because hunting organization are so busy producing deer for recreational killing and yes they encourage the killing of coyotes, bobcats and wolves.
The only place that hunting money goes to is to "conserve" land to use as a killing field and to create large deer herd for recreational killing as human continue to die from deer vehicle accidents and hunting accidents. Just recently a young women in college shot by a hunter and died. Another one a child and mom on horse shot little before Thanksgiving. What a way to start a holiday huh?
How stupid are the misinformed. I can choose any topic you pick and find enough information to prove my point. Who pays to conserve wildlife and it habitat. HUNTERS. I think it is less cruel and healthier to take a deer with a bow than to see how many of the animals are penned and given drugs to get them to produce meat.
Did you know in Wisconsin last deer killing season 68,000 wounded deer were not recovered by hunters now I wonder how many in other states. ? That is A LOT of pain and suffering for your sports and trophy. Sports hunters cause indirect suffering to animals in slaughterhouse for food and direct suffering of sentient animals in the animals own home for sports.
One has to simply laugh at people like Mercy4Wildlife. When they say things like "Man is designed for plants not for meat" that's a huge clue as to how warped they really are. You could point out your teeth to them, it wouldn't matter.
Just keep killing deer or squirrels or rabbits, moose elk bear whatever and enjoy the flavor of wild game.
You meant that tiny ass "canine" ? That is just a name not because its meant to "rip " into carcass Even horses and camel have those kind of "canines" lol. I bet they are not eating that many deer carcass thats for sure but instead dumped to the pantries. With the CWD and the danger of prions who would want to?all they want is to kill for "fun". Also even if some of you *do* eat them , its only the little parts here and there and the rest is thrown away. Wasted life for "sports".
Keep killing away because the public is learning about the disgusting slaughter of innocent wildlife that recreational hunting stands for and the lies of DNR providing deer to slaughter for "sports".
this is such bullshit. just because gun hunting is more of a guaranteed kill, bow hunting still helps. alot. in new jersey where i live, most deer are in areas which cannot be hunted, (such as neighborhoods) hunting has been around since the start of earth. you cant birth control deer. dont fuck with the wild. let it be. hunt free.
That is why in NJ there is still DVA's and still propagating game animals to kill. There are way too many wounding and crippling in bowhunting so you maybe shooting the animals with arrows but many are left wounded and crippled to die a slow suffering death. Overall its bad enough shotgun leave many deer suffer and die a horrific death but bowhunting is worse because with bowhunting the way the animals die is by bleeding to death, drown in their own blood or die in their own poison.
IC is the only way to honestly and effectively reduce deer numbers thus reduce DVA's. I will guarantee you there still be complaint of DVA's every year and deer problems and those will be the states with the big hunting. We are going to start keeping tabs.
@TrueGraffArt Bowhunting stats speak volumes. Hunting in neighborhoods is called "culling" which does not work, is purely for sport, causes grief, and would not be needed if states were not artificially manipulating high game populations. The more hunters that come to their state, the more P-R Gun Tax money they get. That isn't wildlife management, it's running a commercial operation with funds from a public that doesn't approve (or doesn't know). Don't fuck with the wild? Tell management first
hunting will never be outlawed its you right you cant stop a mt lion from killing a deer so you cant stop me its our right to own weapons hunt and eat i eat everything i kill and yes i do find fun in hunting
Man is not a mountain lion for man is designed for plants not for meat. Mountain lion has to kill in order to survive and quench their hunger for meat , Mountain lion can hunt and kill with what nature provided him/her but man needs to spend thousands of dollars worth of killing accessories and weapons hence your name "bowtech" to the "hunting" and killing which in reality '
you all do not even "hunt" you just sit in your cowardly tree stand with your bait and lure waiting for the deer to come to you then you kill.
You mean you find "fun" in killing because what you do there is no "hunting". For man to enjoy killing is no different then serial "enjoy" killing human for "fun".
ok holy shit you think hunting causes deer to get hit the city you live in causes them to get hit you just got the facts from someone else who passed them to you but have you ever been in the woods probly not i get the facts first hand not from someone else thats how rumors are started i could tell people all sorts of stuff thats not true and they pass it on very much like your doing
OK so if it is not effective for reducing wildlife then why are you complaining and why do we need to stop it? Are you saying we need to kill more deer somehow? Would you rather run into them with your hybrid? Man you are so wonderful and fabulous Oh it must feel sooo good to care so much about everything and know you are sooo much better than everyone else.
As the result of hunting deer vehicle accident has gone up. Hunting is not about "reduction' of deer population, its about profiting from the amount of tags DNR sells so they will always need the abundance of deer (mainly the antlered) to do such that is why we need to stop it. Its a senseless pain and suffering for our innocent deer that are always blamed for everything when its the hunting organization that are the cause of all deer related problems.
The more I learned the more I believe that the victims of DVA's should sue the state wildlife agencies or at least let them pay for hospitals, funerals etc.
Just for the sake of arguement, let's say that it is not an effective management tool. Then that means we need to kill more deer. Deer birth control? are you kidding? How do you intend on managing th distribution of that without stopping reproduction altogether or costing trillions? I tell you what. Go set up a sex ed class in the woods and hand out free condoms and morning after pills to the deer. That's how rediculous you guys sound. You are so full of shit your eyes are turning brown
Deer birth control has been used and its been working. Each day as we speak its getting more and more advanced and its scaring the crap out of hunters.
We also have deer birth control that works but the hunting organization rejects it and continue to lie and mislead the public about the effectiveness, safety and the cost of IC. They fear it because they know it will works then what will hunting organization do without the fawn births?
Bow hunting is a great way to hunt if you can actually shoot. you are supposed to only shoot shots that you think you can make a quick and clean kill. my limit i set for myself is 50 yards because i am nationally ranked in archery.
99% of bowhunted deer death is not "quick" so that means 99% of you scumbag cannot shoot accurately including you mr "nationally ranked in archery" guy.
I like how you have the rage three blade in the back ground... Great product, i havent lost a deer yet with this broadhead. Opens em up, makes for a quick recovery! Thanks for the video!
It does not make for a "quick death" and I will post a video response. "Rage" has been around for several years but there are still so many wounded and crippled animals and imagine one of these hit a child, pets or anyone whose the arrow was not the intention. Scary don't you think?
Here is an article written from Mad cow disease website (link is on the video info)
"As you can see by reading this article [below] in this afternoon's Capital Times of Madison, word is slowly leaking out about what has apparently been a massive decade-long feeding of "supplements" (including meat and bone meal as mineral and protein) to wild deer in the heart of the "kill zone," the area of the WI Chronic Wasting Disease outbreak."
It has been scientifically proven that broadhead arrows have the lowest wounding rate of any weapon used in hunting. See my video about it called "THE TRUTH ABOUT HUNTING."
I may be an avid hunter, but I respect animals-hence the reason I'm studying to be a Biologist- I'm not the brainless killer PETA calls me with their hypocritical movement's lies.
It's true. The info in this video is outdated and for the most part- False.
Mercy4Wildlife, I still commend you for your devotion.
I would suggest everyone check "weaponenthusiast" video. Its just another same old hogwash of "quick clean kill" comment from bowkillers I get everyday under my videos but instead this one made it into a video. What a waste of window movie maker lol!
Liar. Don't put words in my mouth. I never said "quick clean kill" I said, "Clean and painless kill." LOL Not Windows movie maker nice guess, Sony vegas Pro.
Besides all you Anti's do in terms of editing is put sad music in your videos so people think you are benefiting the greater good; when in reality, you're just an Anit.....no need to argue with people who can't see past their emotions to real facts.
Why are hunters supplement feeding deer if there is overpopulation to begin with? Why is it that its ok for hunters to feed deer in which can spread CWD but non-hunters are told they are not to because of disease spreading.? Why do they talk about antler growth, "Fawn recruitment" , "fawn production" , "killing of predators" if its about "reduction" of deer?
I think you need to read some real scientific articles and not some things written on pro-animal sites.You don't know that CJD can be genetical,no you don't.Neither do you know that from 1958 till 1985 people where given hormones coming out of the putuitary gland coming from dead people and that some patients got CJD from there.Nowhere in those scientific articles are there any claims that you make.Like I said,greed from the agro-farming community led to this situation.Give me your articles.
CWD was spread by supplement feeding deer, rendered animals to get protein for antler growth.
"Apparently no one in the CWD research community has ever investigated the possibility that CWD may be spreading via rendered feed (mineral, fat and protein supplements), as happened in Britain with mad cow disease. This needs to be investigated immediately as a possible third means of infection for CWD, along with suspected animal-to-animal transmission and environmental contamination."
"As you can see from the excerpts of two books below on feeding wild deer, there has been a huge push over the past 10-15 years of supplemental feeding of both game farmed elk and deer and wild deer to grow bigger animals with huge-boned antlers."
And guess what? Hunters still supplement feed deer though not rendered animals but the way the deer come together in one to eat will spread it . Funny how hunters tell us not to feed deer because it can spread CWD yet they do it themselves. HYPOCRITE
i pray the pain will be taken away from the deer and put upon all the widlife serial killers sometimes in their lives. May you suffer horrible fate for what you do to our wildlife and no one have mercy on your life! WOW SPEAKING OF SERIAL KILLERS THAT JUST ABOUT DESTROYS YOUR ARGUMENT FOR RESPECT TO LIVING THINGS WHEN YOU WISH DEATH AND PAIN ON FELLOW HUMANS PICK A SIDE CHIEF AND STICK TO IT,CAUSE YOUR CREDABILITY SUCKS JUST LIKE THE MUSIC ON YOUR VIDEO
"WOW SPEAKING OF SERIAL KILLERS THAT JUST ABOUT DESTROYS YOUR ARGUMENT FOR RESPECT TO LIVING THINGS WHEN YOU WISH DEATH AND PAIN ON HUMANS TO KILL ANIMAL JUST FOR THE SHEER FUN OF IT AND TROPHY. PICK A SIDE CHIEF AND STICK TO IT,CAUSE YOUR CREDABILITY SUCKS JUST LIKE THE MUSIC ON YOUR VIDEO"
You are talking about CJD, what exactly has that to do with hunting?CJD is a product of modern farming strategy,a strategy that your country likes a lot,it is called capitalism,making money at whatever cost for the environement.Giving carcasses to farm animals was never a good idea to begin with, but it has nothing to do with hunting.If you talk about what is wrong in the farming industry why not talk about genetic changed wheat or soja,but plants don't have rights or pain in your dogma, right?
CJD/Mad Deer Disease was also spread naturally. It was the hunter that made the biggest impact. Not FATE, nor any other animal rights activist groups. Something else, deer/car accidents are due to overwelming amount of drivers in the state, and many don't pay attention to the roads to start with. I have more to say. People are encrouching, ok, but it is the cities that r growing, making the farmers expand, you want b/c how about controlling Our pop. first. say no more than 2 kids per female.
Sure DVA rise could be more people and more car but should not be more deer. That means hunting organization should not be "providing" more deer for hunters to kill, every year state wildlife agencies put billions of dollars into burning timbers, clear cutting forest, planting food plants in order to "grow" large herd mainly the buck deer. Its amazing the time and money spend "providing" these antlered deer for hunters to kill year after year..
I think you missed a few things here. The clear cut timbers, are not only for having lush undergrowth, but the timber goes for things like paper, lumber, and such. I have never seen a state agency planting a food plot, if you have documentation, then I would love to see it. State regulations manage herds by making size restrictions on hunters. In my state, the limit is 3 bucks, at least one has to have 4 points on one side. I bowhunt so my season is very long, and I can take 1 doe everyday.
I have said this before if you want "proof" go into the video information and there is a link to my blogger there you can see photos of burning timbers, food plots etc. You can even read about food crops and "fawn recruites" or how kill does to ensure abundance of food for the to create healthy twins and hopefully triplets. More does does not mean more babies if there is lack of food source in most cases it can do the opposite and you just end up with lots of does that hunters do not want.
"Apparently no one in the CWD research community has ever investigated the possibility that CWD may be spreading via rendered feed (mineral, fat and protein supplements), as happened in Britain with mad cow disease. This needs to be investigated immediately as a possible third means of infection for CWD, along with suspected animal-to-animal transmission and environmental contamination."
"As you can see from the excerpts of two books below on feeding wild deer, there has been a huge push over the past 10-15 years of supplemental feeding of both game farmed elk and deer and wild deer to grow bigger animals with huge-boned antlers. "
continue next is hunters website talking about supplement feeding deer for large antler growth and herd size
"Deer managers agree that supplemental feeding, whether it be protein pellets, whole cotton seed, or some other type of high-protein food, really helps local deer populations."
"Managing for proper nutrition in white-tailed deer is important for good body condition, good fawn production and recruitment, and maximum antler growth. Good nutrition can be accomplished by doing three things that involve proper habitat management, supplemental feeding, and the planting of food plots."
So man are not natural killers,wondering why we as humans survived for all those millions of years?Humans like to kill and that's what make us so succesfull.Sure we don't have claws,great strength or big theeth but we got something that is much better.We can think and organize strategies and we walk on 2 feet so we can use tools we invent to kill.Before being hunters we where scavengers or canibals to get our meat, and you to are still just a primitive monkey with a suit on who thinks he is god.
Your right, I guess that is why we have executions. To satisfy your need to kill people. Others kill to eat, not you though, you just need the prisons to kill people. Even though you eat food, you think you don't kill, and are not reponsible. I guess you never swatted a fly, or slapped a mosquito. Never had Thanksgiving turkey, or a steak. Never ate corn, beans, or wheat. Because animals die in thier harvest. Nope you never did any of that huh?
The thing is, that hunters know where their food comes from, and others simply don't. Farmers know where food comes from, and what happens when harvest time comes. If you think that mosquitos and flies deserve to die, then why not deer? I just want you to see that your not seeing reasonably. The world needs hunters, and hunters need game. It's the circle of life. If we get caught by cougar in the woods..are you going to protest big cat rights? I don't think you would.
"the world needs hunters" show me where this is a fact that the "world needs hunters" . No we dont "need" human lowlife killing animals for recreational purpose (sports and trophy) . Its a "circle of life"? LOL. You all kill for "sports" not survival and nothing to do with food. If you get "caught" by cougars then you too should do your share of that "circle of life" for man too is meal for carnivores.
I replied to that one with the example of the canton de Géneve where hunting is stopped since the seventies,but once again you didn't make it public so you know the truth that even where hunting is totally stopped the local governement still needs to hunt animals that are breeding to much.The only difference is the fact that gamewardens do it,not hunters.Strange they do not use birthcontrol for this purpose.
Let me be as blunt and straightforward as I can. I see antihunters as scum of the earth. Unwilling to actually see the truth of anything, only what they want. To me, you life rates lower than that of an insect that needs to be crushed. What the fuck have you ever done to help anything? I mean not just being a bitch on the com. I mean actually doing something. Have you or any group you belong to ever saved an endangered species? No, I know you haven't because of the BS you put here. Hunters do.
hmm, lets see anti-hunters wants save animals from pain and suffering and also human lives from deer vehicle accidents caused by the hunting industry. Hunting people wants to destroy innocent defenseless lives for "sports" and trophy and lie to the public that they are the ones "reducing" deer vehicle accident and deer population when in fact deer herd are deliberately populated for hunters recreational purpose. See link to my blogger on video information. Learn the truth
Then whats is the comments that you see? Anti-killers and abusers of the innocent have to put their videos on "pending approval" because of the sadistic and evil nature of hunters and the stuff they love to leave here. If you don't like it you don't have to be here. Byeeee
I have heard of human injuries with bowhunting more so to the innocent people and to the pets. Plus now in NJ they will be using crossbows and non-crippled hunters wants to use it so now there be more danger for crossbows shoots like a gun. Overall weapons with razor sharp ends is a danger and one human lives or even pets lost from it was unnecessary because killing for "sports" is unnecessary and bowhunting has nothing to do with "reducing " deer population.
If any one is hurt while bowhunting it is their own fault...there are stupid and unlucky people all over. They are by far the exeption not the rule. Pets harmed? no one can mistake any pet for any huntable animal. If there are injuries to them it's because the person doing it wanted to, and they are the ones that all of YOU like to use to stereotype responcible hunters.
"Pets harmed? no one can mistake any pet for any huntable animal."
Look at how many of you wildlife killers mistaken each other for a turkey, doves, deer or squirrel. Look at the hunting accident list on video information.
"Responcible hunters."
And because there are more irresponsible wildlife killers we do not need you because we have deer birth contro that works l and hunting which does not work (deer vehicle accident has gone up as the result of hunting)
Like I said when I hit "approve" sometime it don't stick and if you are not happy about it then move on. You are waste of my time any way for you repeat the same damn thing.
You know visits sooo many hunters website, bloggers, youtubes, DNR, Fish and wildlife etc etc and from what I have read (and hunters told me this too) that male deer meat especially the mature one (big rack) is not the greatest., So spare me your "bark, acorns , sapling blahblahblah...when there are mad deer disease and CWD out there that killed hunters and God knows how many people at the pantries may get sick in years to come. Mad deer disease is s slow killer.
I love it when you get mad. You act like a little kid. Ha ha ha ha... grow up. When you lose an argument, have some self respect and lose it graciously. I would. But since it is impossible to lose an argument with you, I don't have to worry about it. "Mad Deer Disease is a slow killer" That is funny. My pap is 84, and his diet is 90% meat (half of that venison) and he is still farming. His dad died at 94 in his sleep, and he was bailing hay the day before he died. You are funny.
Mad deer has just surface in US about 10-15 years ago. Your pop probably did not get it but obviously we know that pantries got plenty of it now from the "hunters for hungry" program. Where is it that I am "mad"? The only reason for my anger is the outrage of what you do to our wildlife and keep making excuses for it. That is what the outrage is!
I'm having trouble finding any documentation of "Mad Deer" on any non-biased web sites. Its all over animal rights sites, but I'm yet to find it anywhere else. Are you sure it exists? Or is it listed beside "Bigfoot sightings" or "Easter Bunny" or "Normal Animal Rights Supporter" or some other figment of imagination?
Oh! You meant CWD! Which has not even been found in PA. Which is so rare that you have a better chance of getting struck by lightning or winning the lottery. You can also get diseases from veges too. The veges you eat are so contaminated with pesticides/herbicides and feces. But Im still gonna eat tomatoes and green onions. You can get sick from eating anything, should we just quit eating all together?
we can wash veggie and even buy organic its nothing compared to mad deer and cwd. Watch the video on playlist about CJD and it real scary stuff. Plus deer carcass also have pesticide especially urban and suburban deer but of course you have nothing to worry about because you don't eat them but the pantries does.
all that talk of "reducing" is a sham and a lie. NJ continue to deceive the public too about deer birth control which can definitely bring the population and will stay down. I guess to the hunters and the wildlife agencies believes that few human lives that die in DVA's are sacrificed for their killing opportunities.
That is what they do in NJ too (read link) and why dva's and deer overpopulation are always a problem always will be . So long there is hunting there be deer "provided" for the millions of wildlife serial killers.
do you know that in Indiana deer vehicle accidents are rising yet Indiana's fish and wildlife are "providing" deer for hunting purpose?
"Southeastern Indiana's Zone 5 is a nine-county area that is known to produce plenty of deer with its excellent habitat, and higher deer density. The zone produced 15,784 deer in 2006, compared with the 16,786 deer it produced the previous year. Six of the zone's counties produced at least 1,500 deer in 2006."
just a point on the "Natural" part of hunting. did you know that a study was done on monkeys in the wild. They actually create tools to help bust into nests and trees that contain hives/colonies of insects or animals that they eat. they have also been seen using them as weapons or for defense to beat down or block an opponent or predator in the wild. Man didnt teach them to do that surely. They worked it out and climbed up the food chain. Evolution?
Being that chimps are very much like us they will use tools when necessary. I have a video up on my other channel of a chimp using stones to crack open a nuts. Chimp is a frugivore whose diet is 95% plants, rest is termites and 1.4% meat which is really not about diet but for sexual exchange. What you do is not 'hunting" its killing, and you say that its "natural" for man to kill? If that was the case we will all be killing and it would not disgust us.
Overall there is nothing "natural" about mass killing of wildlife for "sports" and the drastic drop in deer population is a shock to the eco-balance every year.
Man do not belong in the the animal home killing for sports with their ATV, tree stand, bait and lures , bow, guns etc. Nothing "natural" about it.
"They will often wait for a period of time after shooting the deer, especially if the shot is not perfect, as if they move in too early it cause cause the deer to run on much further and make it almost impossible to find.
Every effort is put into retrieving deer for their meat and trophy."
Is no "natural" predators of the wild, true predators do not have to wait because they have speed and all the right NATURAL weapon to catch and kill their prey quickly.
Nonsense, you have a very narrow minded view of what a predator is. What about venemous snakes which quickly bite their prey, inject it with venom, wait for it to take effect and follow the animals trail. Is that not natural? Of course it is. All predators have their own tools and methods for hunting. We use intelligence to make tools to hold in our hands. Our ability to make, hold and use tools were all developed naturally.
Humans do however, have marvelous fingers, thumbs, and limbs for reaching, climbing and grabbing. Our natural food gathering capacity is very similar to the chimpanzees. Fruitarians of the primate order also have revolving joints in their shoulder, wrist, and elbow joints that allow for free movement in all directions. Frugivores have soft pliable, sensitive hands and fingers with opposable thumbs and flat nails that are perfect for grasping and gathering fruit.
Nothing has "evolved" you don't make your tools the slob wildlife killers buy their weapons from the "sportsmans" stores not make them. Hunters need all the manufactured made products to go out and kill an animals for trophy. Its beyond pathetic.
So if say 10,000 years ago in a group of people one man produced all the flint blades as he was the most skilled at it, the other people in the group could not be called hunters. Don't be so stupid and let your emotions get in the way of plain facts.
Humans tools evolve over time rather than our anatomy, it is very simple and does not make us any less of a hunter.
Human created tools for the purpose of survival at one time. Yes we have the brain to make and use tools to help us because we are pretty helpless species without our brain but that is not say that making tool even weapons tell us we are "natural" hunters in the world because we are not. How about we can clench our fist and punch someone does not mean out hands was made to beat people up. Stop making excuses as to why you kill, just admit you enjoy snuffing out innocent lives that is all.
You are in denial, it is simple. You know full well i is a natural part of human behaviour to kill for food. Why is it that you consider something we have done for thousands of years unnatural, but doing something like avoiding meat or all meat products natural, when we have only done it for a minute fraction of our existance?
I enjoy hunting, humans have evolved to. I also kill because I enjoy eating meat and know that certain species need to be controlled for wildlife management.
"You know full well i is a natural part of human behaviour to kill for food."
First of all man has absolutely NO "desire" to kill for food unless its for pure survival. What you all do is not kiling for "food" its for "sports" and some may eat the carcass but its not out of necessity or survival. Yes People killed because they needed to live off animals at one time and some still do (climate, regions etc). But yours is an excuse because your desire to kill is like that of serial killers
Todays killing of deer by the hundreds of thousands in few short months is for "sports" and trophy not for survival. Look at the website on all the kiling gear you can buy and I watched a video on rage blade they are about 10 dollar for one blade so that means bowhunting not for poor. Bowhunting is for people who have money and love to kill for "sports" so spare me your food excuses.
snake have their own natural built in ways to kill animals man do not. When you see a human baby born with an bow or gun let me know then I say its "natural".
Where are the coyotes and foxes because hunters kill them too? Man is no "natural" predators in the wild for natural predators do not leave wounded animals they have the speed to catch the animals and bring them down . they have to for the purpose of killing if for hunger and survival. Man bring their herbivore ass out to the forest with thousand of dollars with of lures, baits, tree stands, bows, arrow, guns, bullets etc to kill animals but they still end up wounding and losing them.
Again we are a natural predator of animals. Our strategy may lead to the wounding of other aniamls but there is no doubt it is more successful than any other predators. Evolution of our large brain was natural. Making tools is natural for us. Using are brains to solve problems is natural for us. Put that all together and you get hunting. How can we use tools to kill those fast elusive deer? for a lion that wouldn't be natural but for us it is.
It still not "natural" for you are using a product that is made , that would be like riding on a air balloon and then claiming your are a "natural" flier which you are not. Only birds are natural fliers.
You are a manufactured made "predators" without your weapons and other crap you could catch no fleeting animals and all animals do want to live so they run. If man was meant to kill and eat meat you would be naturally equipped to do just that.
I am nataurally equiped, with a large brain. You just don't seem to get it. Man has only flown for 100 years or so. We have hunted for thousands, almost certainly to some extent millions of years , it is natural.
Then man truelty hunted (searched) for food for hunger and survival (necessity) today most of you have thousands of dollar worth of killing equipment hang out in tree stands with bait and lures waiting for the animals to come to you then you kill. The object of being out there is to kill an animals for "sports" and trophy like some serial killers nothing about hunger or food and when I watch some of the snuff videos that killer upload I can't help want to vomit of how pathetic you all are .
I dont understand why you think that hunters do eat what they kill. If you know any hunters i bet if you go and look in their freezer after hunting season they will have meat from the animal in there. People hunt because they love the meat, they love the hunt, and yes of course we love shooting the animals, but the majority of the time we eat what we shoot and if we dont eat it something else will like a coyote.
That we believe and the fact that hunters leaves thousands upon thousands of wounded deer in the forest ground only to suffer and die. No wonder the gun season comes after bow so maybe they can end up shooting the wounded animals miserable existance after the bowkillers wounded them. All that managing deer population is a load of crock because NJ fish and wildlife provides the abundance of deer for hunters recreational purpose.
Blah Blah blah blah thats all I get from you. Thousands of deer are not intentially left in the woods, unfortunately they the animals had a weak blood trail or something that made it difficult to find. Bow season begins before gun season and ends after it. Dont try to act like you know what you're talking about because it is evident that you really have no idea.
In Wisconsin (there is a link for Associated Press) that hunters did not recover 68,000 wounded deer and even if that was a typo or the calculation was off we know it must have been close it. Now if they can leave that many wounded animals then imagine other wildlife killing states?
Oh so that why they have gun season after bow to shoot the wounded ones and can you imagine the suffering the animals endure only to end up being shot by a bullets weeks late. How would you like your life to end that way?
the number is probably closer to 6,800 deer. I dont know what you are trying to prove. The deer that are never recovered are usually not wasted. Other animals will use them.
Its a wasted lives of animals that did not deserve to die. Maybe someone shoot you down for no reason but because its "fun" and then other animals can use you. So please do it and help nature.
Even if the number was 6 it was still an unnecessary pain , suffering and death. I pray the pain will be taken away from the deer and put upon all the widlife serial killers sometimes in their lives. May you suffer horrible fate for what you do to our wildlife and no one have mercy on your life!
I will keep track on NJ and their overpopulation problems and deer vehicle all the way into next year and the year after and we will see if there are more complaints of overpopulation and deer vehicle accidents year after year and I bet there will be because hunting is not the solution but the problem .
"they love the meat" and if you look at the website for hunter for hungry crap you will lots of buck deer because from what I have heard from several hunters buck deer meat is not good and of course the risk of mad deer disease/CWD is too high so why eat the meat when there is the pantries.
Firstly I Am Australian so I know nothing about deer, however I think you will find that weather a rifle, handgun, bow or crossbow are used you will find that the majority of people cant shoot properly or hit the right places of the animal.
For example I was hunting with my cousin once with a 22Lr and he wounded 2 and killed one, it took him 7 shots to kill it. The most it has taken me to kill a roo with a 22lr is 3 shots. but I average 1 shot because I go for the head at 70m.
"Firstly I Am Australian so I know nothing about deer, however I think you will find that weather a rifle, handgun, bow or crossbow are used you will find that the majority of people cant shoot properly or hit the right places of the animal."
You are absolutely right and I have seen animals suffer from bullet but arrow we know that in 99% of the animals shot will suffer because the part of bowhunted animals death is hemorrhaging and its also very hard to get an accurate shot.
A .22 LR is way too small for deer. At 20 grains (give or take) and with a muzzle velocity of 1,100-1,700 fps, its balistics are not even in the vicinity to take the animal with one shot. Unless you hit the brain, you are just going to wound the animal. Try upgrading to at least 80-100 grain bullet out of faster modern cartridge (.223, .243, .256 Roberts etc.) and I bet you and your buddies will drop roos like flys.
It is not "instinct" to use tools. That is why different family groups of chimps use different tools for different tasks. The young are TAUGHT how, when & where to use a specific tool & tactic. I'm not trying to sound smart, It is just really easy to do here. On one side we have you with all this jibberish and on the other side you have me with actual facts. Sounding smart is just a biproduct of using FACTS in an argument. I'm sorry. Would you rather me just type my opinion?
As far as human using tool as a method to kill from early man was instinct and their to quench their hunger and clothes themselves from the cold. what does using tools by man to kill other animals today has to do with using tools for other reason such as cracking open a coconut shell? We use tools for all kinds of stuff but using lethal weapons to kill a living being is not a "natural" part of human unless you think that killing human is "natural" too!
Yes it is. You are too funny that you can't understand or accept simple points. Just because you disagree with something you think it is unnatural.
Using tools to get food is natural, you agree with that right? Animals are a food source. Humans know this. We made tools to get this food source. That is natural. What part of our modern lifestlye is natural or more natural than hunting?
Our body is not "natural" made for killing and eating animals no matter how much you want to try and convince yourself. If it was so "natural" you would not need the crap you bring with you to do the "hunting" and the killing. Its more "natural" for man to be the food source for the carnivores and omnivores of the wild.
So its not natural when a chimp or gorilla uses sticks in a termite mound? What about otters using stones to open up clams? What about bone vultures who drop old bones onto rocks to get the marrow? What about the ant lion building funnels in the sand to trap ants? What about chimps using sticks to reach monkeys in the canopy? It is completely natural to use tools, if you're smart enough to master them. Once again, you're all opinion and no facts.
"So its not natural when a chimp or gorilla uses sticks in a termite mound? What about otters using stones to opes?"
What these animals do is by instinct same with very man did when the freeze came and they knew that veggie was scarce and starvation and cold is what made them make tools to kill. Today the tools are made by the manufacture for the purpose of killing for "sports". If that was the case that human killers could say that guns was made for man to be able to kill humans.
Just for your info... I've shot at 13 deer with a bow. Recovered 11, the other 2 were clean misses. And I know for a fact, because they both ended up shot in rifle season. I'd say thats pretty efficient, of 11 hits... 11 recoveries. And if I ever do lose one, I can take a little solice knowing that the Coyotes, Oppossums, Foxes & countless other creatures will benefit from it. But I practice all year to hopefully keep that from happening.
So the wounded animals can suffer long enough till gun season that is if they do not die before that or if they do not even get hit. You think that make us feel "better?" LOL
Mass killing deer benefits nothing but your damn self. that is nothing natural about bunch of yahoos' in the forest slaughtering wildlife by the thousands and leaving thousands more wounded and crippled because that is not how nature works.
They were not wounded! Jeez, you do not listen to anything. They were both shot in rifle season a month later, and there was not a scratch on them... besides the big hole from the rifle. And I did'nt care if it made you feel better, I don't really care how you feel. You stated that bowhunters wound 50% of the time... I was just telling you thats not true.
Cabelas1987 of course you can live your life, and do the things you choose to, as long as you do it the way a certain group of commies wants you to. Quit trying to have a intelligent debate. Just listen, read, and do as Mercy tells you to.
Answer me this question, which benifits wildlife more.
Mass agriculture to produce the food to sustain our massive population or hunting?
One has led massive areas of habitat being destroyed and the decline of many many species. The other requires natural habitats to be preserved providing a home for many species and a reason not to destroy further habitats for agriculture.
Neither. You destroy the eco-balance where deer are created for recreational purpose and hundred of thousands are killed every year. What is good about it? You have the WMAs where they provide ample food for the deer after mass killing to ensure more deer to by the next season, compensatory rebound and to create wildlife only to kill is nothing to be proud of.
You are in denial, and stop refering to what I do, I live in England and we manage to control our deer popualtion through culling, not increase it.
Yes I eat dairy and bacon, i'm not saying I get all my food from the wild. It's irrelevant, the point is one destroys habitat the other preserves it. Preservation of habitat is clearly better for wildlife.
"preservation of habitat for what? So you can use it as the killing field for "sportsman"? Is that were they propagate more game animals by clear cutting and planting food that deer loves so they give birth to twins and triplets sometimes quadruplet from what I heard. Younger does giving birth too because of mass killing the deer compensate for the loss. That is why overpopulation is never ending in the most hunted state. Its all about blood money.
It does not matter why habitat is preserved, it is the fact that wildlfe is benifitted that is important. The problem is that your views are so clouded by emotion, "poor sentient beings" that you can not see there is nothing wrong with hunting.
You telling me that leaving thousands wounded is "benefiting" our wildlife? How about human lives from deer vehicle accidents that hunting communities have caused. If I was one of those who got injured or loved one dies I sue the the state with everything I know and get the best lawyer ever and bring the Hunting industry down.
Well technically yes. If those figures are correct then yes it does still benifit wildlife.
Predators play an important role in the ecosystem by creating carcases which many other species from birds of prey, corvids, small mammals and invertebrates rely on. In the abscence of large carnivores these species will often suffer. If bow hunting does injure as many deer as you say then it is creating those carcases and filling a missing part of the ecosystem. so yes it does benifit wildlife.
You can not blame DVA on hunters. It is a drivers responsibility to be aware of what is on the road and take care if you are in an area where there is likely to be deer on the road.
Man has hunted deer long before we had cars, it is the fact that there is too much traffic now that is to blame. Sureley you should be trying to ban driving as it wounds many deer and directly costs the lives of many people each year. To blame it on hunters is clutching at straws.
there is a link called "why we have too many deer' and I think everyone should read it although 'hunters' do know that killing does not work and that killing just keep the population level up for every season deer slaughter for "sports" and trophy thus causing DVA's.
It depends on how many deer are culled. Here in the UK deer populations are well managed through controlled culls. There is no reason why that can not be done there
The only right solution for long term deer population reduction is IC deer birth control. The fact is no matter how you want to twist it and turn it killing does not and never did work because lethal deer management is not about "reduction" but a bloody business for State DNR.
Thats great and all but that just seems to me a little selfish to me. Here is an animal that did ask to be hunted or have its home being taken over so now we out now going to decide for them which they have no say in the matter, "Hey we are going to stop from you guys from having babies." That to me just does not sound right either. Its something like we did to the indians the native of this land hey we are taking over your land and we are going to control what you do.
Dont get me wrong i take you have a good opion and its backed by various facts. To be honest death is always will be apart of life and its inhumanes ways, but really you have to look at the big picture here. You might as well call yourself a killer as well if you drive a car or ride in a highway. The true problem is not hunting these animals its just humans as a bigger picture. Its us taking over this animals habbitat to create roadways so we can drive our big cars.
That is right, we took their home and land, WE ALL DID and I did too but that is all the more reason why we be more compassionate to these innocent life. What did the animals do to deserve such sadism done to them in their own home ? Why do you all feel its your 'right" to kill them for recreational purpose when it was not their fault?
But what make it worse is that deer population is created for recreational hunting purpose in NJ and other states like PA , Ohio and Michigan.I am sure many other very hunted states works the same way and that is the reason for the never ending deer problems and DVA's.
Deer Hunting is not just to prevent DVAs. Its more than that, its something you can't put into words. Call us whatever you want, but we are the definition of good people. We help our neighbors, we love our kids and we go to work everyday. You're the one with no family, yet you act like you love people so much. Get a life, get married, have some kids and then your little crusade will drop right to the bottom of your priorities.... Psycho. Byeeee!
Hunting is "more than that?" Really? Like what else because we have just about stripped away 'hunters' BS, lies and euphemism. Anyway, so long charlie LOL
YOU are a serial killer of wildlife and the rape of nature. Man have no purpose causing pain and suffering in the homes of the animals, that is not part of nature at all. You are all an abnormality for mass killing animals within 3 months every year is extremely not normal and its no wonder deer react with compensatory rebound and how you have never ending problem with overpopulation and Deer Vehicle Accidents.
Overall bowhunters know how these animals death will be like but could give a damn about it. If they were so "ethical" i would believe they would give up using the bow altogether and at least opt for the shotgun though I would wish nothing at all. Majority of bowhunters are trophy hunters and personally I hate using the word "hunters' because that is not what you do, well maybe when you have to track the wounded deer.
I feel sorry for NJ and thank God I don't live there but the innocent people and the animals are going to suffer a great deal and all for nothing but to satisfy the sick killers.
Killing from humans is not "natural", if we have a choice to use a non-lethal compassionate method and end the never ending problems of deer overpopulation and DVA's don't you think that is important? I know you care nothing for the animals world but at least care for the human world.
How will non-lethal methods work any better? In the short term you still have a high population of deer and you still have to go into the woods to administer the drugs to the deer, causing the same disturbance as hunting which you blame for the high number of DVA's.
When the population is reduced, if it is deer will increase the number of young they raise the same as with hunting. The drugs only work for so long. Who is going to keep giving them and who will foot the bill?
In 'hunting' there are millions of killers in the woods everyday for 3 months of deer killing and reason for high DVA's. . IC has been done already in Fire Island with 60% reduction in deer herd size. IC works like our birth control, naturally. In 'Hunting' you mass kill (unnatural), sudden drop in deer population which deer biologically reacts to the loss by giving birth earlier in age and to twins and triplets.
An island is a lot different than trying to carry it out on the mainland. I'm scepticlae as to how practicle it would be. I assumed the drugs are administered through darting. How many people are you going to have to employ to carry this out and is it sustainable. As soon as you stop darting they are able to breed again.
How many sadistic people have been in the woods destroying innocent lives causing immense pain and suffering to our sentient life for "sports" and trophy"? How much more pain and suffering do you want to cause our wildlife? Haven't they endured enough from your selfishness? You are like the other wildlife killers that keeps making up their own conclusion to IC that you know nothing about.
I haven't made conclusions, i have an opinion and have asked questions. I do not see how on a large scale it can be practicle. Perhaps you could explain why i'm wrong and it would work.
Animals kill other animals all across the world each day. Often for survival but often not. We are an animal which has evolved tools which make us a hunter. Through evolution we have gained the right to hunt deer.
Really Zack? Then why are Texas producing deer?
"Thus, late fall up to early winter is very important for deer herd managers to impact and influence fawn production, so make sure the plant communities on your property is properly managed deer habitat. " Deer Hunting and Management TX
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
ok if hunting isnt doing anything lets start mass extiction.....lets get some automatic weapons and all walk through the woods and blast away anything that moves.....you people are pathetic...hunting will never stop...it never has..so get used to it
BronxBombers4life123 2 years ago
I bet the slave owners said the same "they'll never" too before it was abolished.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
Me...I hunt for meat, not for sport, not for animal control, but for meat (not that I have anything against those who do). My dad always taught us respect of the animal. I cant go to the food market & buy venison or pheasant, so I have to get it on my own. Survival of the strongest, and my God given dominion over animal. Nothing makes me more angry then to see a deer splattered on the highway that could have gone to feed a starving family. if It helps control deer population, then all the better
ollie4jc 2 years ago 7
"Dominion" does not mean to destroy or kill sentient beings, God wanted you to be the caretaker.
Sorry the "food" excuse don't fly here because if its really about "food" you would not be here making excuses you be out surviving. Deer Vehicle Accidents has GONE UP as the result of hunting so what does that say to you?
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
I believe that every hunter should eat what they kill EVERYTHING not dump it to the pantries. With the risk of prions(CWD/Mad deer disease) hunters are risking innocent human lives for prions are very deadly. Those carcasses are non-usda inspected so who is to know and its easy to "give" what you don't want isn't it? The "give to the pantries" are a great way to put a fake halo over the sadist head.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
You want effective deer control bring back the big cats! The overpopulation of any prey species is lack of natural predators.
Im willing to bet that 99% of the people that hunt deer (or any animal) are no better then poachers, thieves & murderers. Deserving of being hung up skinned & having only the meat brought back for burial. They WASTE sooooooo much! The only part of a deer I see no need of is, shit, piss & blood. Any that leave less should never be allowed to hunt again!!!
liberatedhumanbeing 2 years ago
Thank you liberated and what also important is to banish sports hunting that is why there are overpopulation problem because hunting organization are so busy producing deer for recreational killing and yes they encourage the killing of coyotes, bobcats and wolves.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
Apparently you are a vegitarian who wants all forms of habitat destroyed.
Hunting is less cruel than penning and drugging a cow. It is also healthier.
Money from a hunting license goes to support wildlife and its habitat.
Instead of chosing a side because of misinformation, look at both sides.
STUPID are the misinformed.
chiropractor1969 2 years ago 6
The only place that hunting money goes to is to "conserve" land to use as a killing field and to create large deer herd for recreational killing as human continue to die from deer vehicle accidents and hunting accidents. Just recently a young women in college shot by a hunter and died. Another one a child and mom on horse shot little before Thanksgiving. What a way to start a holiday huh?
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
How stupid are the misinformed. I can choose any topic you pick and find enough information to prove my point. Who pays to conserve wildlife and it habitat. HUNTERS. I think it is less cruel and healthier to take a deer with a bow than to see how many of the animals are penned and given drugs to get them to produce meat.
chiropractor1969 2 years ago 5
Did you know in Wisconsin last deer killing season 68,000 wounded deer were not recovered by hunters now I wonder how many in other states. ? That is A LOT of pain and suffering for your sports and trophy. Sports hunters cause indirect suffering to animals in slaughterhouse for food and direct suffering of sentient animals in the animals own home for sports.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
One has to simply laugh at people like Mercy4Wildlife. When they say things like "Man is designed for plants not for meat" that's a huge clue as to how warped they really are. You could point out your teeth to them, it wouldn't matter.
Just keep killing deer or squirrels or rabbits, moose elk bear whatever and enjoy the flavor of wild game.
texaswader 2 years ago 21
You meant that tiny ass "canine" ? That is just a name not because its meant to "rip " into carcass Even horses and camel have those kind of "canines" lol. I bet they are not eating that many deer carcass thats for sure but instead dumped to the pantries. With the CWD and the danger of prions who would want to?all they want is to kill for "fun". Also even if some of you *do* eat them , its only the little parts here and there and the rest is thrown away. Wasted life for "sports".
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
Keep killing away because the public is learning about the disgusting slaughter of innocent wildlife that recreational hunting stands for and the lies of DNR providing deer to slaughter for "sports".
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
this is such bullshit. just because gun hunting is more of a guaranteed kill, bow hunting still helps. alot. in new jersey where i live, most deer are in areas which cannot be hunted, (such as neighborhoods) hunting has been around since the start of earth. you cant birth control deer. dont fuck with the wild. let it be. hunt free.
TrueGraffArt 2 years ago 10
That is why in NJ there is still DVA's and still propagating game animals to kill. There are way too many wounding and crippling in bowhunting so you maybe shooting the animals with arrows but many are left wounded and crippled to die a slow suffering death. Overall its bad enough shotgun leave many deer suffer and die a horrific death but bowhunting is worse because with bowhunting the way the animals die is by bleeding to death, drown in their own blood or die in their own poison.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
IC is the only way to honestly and effectively reduce deer numbers thus reduce DVA's. I will guarantee you there still be complaint of DVA's every year and deer problems and those will be the states with the big hunting. We are going to start keeping tabs.
PS. Early man ate nuts and seeds not carcass.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
@TrueGraffArt Bowhunting stats speak volumes. Hunting in neighborhoods is called "culling" which does not work, is purely for sport, causes grief, and would not be needed if states were not artificially manipulating high game populations. The more hunters that come to their state, the more P-R Gun Tax money they get. That isn't wildlife management, it's running a commercial operation with funds from a public that doesn't approve (or doesn't know). Don't fuck with the wild? Tell management first
SunChaserWildlife 1 year ago
hunting will never be outlawed its you right you cant stop a mt lion from killing a deer so you cant stop me its our right to own weapons hunt and eat i eat everything i kill and yes i do find fun in hunting
bowtechfan14 2 years ago 3
Man is not a mountain lion for man is designed for plants not for meat. Mountain lion has to kill in order to survive and quench their hunger for meat , Mountain lion can hunt and kill with what nature provided him/her but man needs to spend thousands of dollars worth of killing accessories and weapons hence your name "bowtech" to the "hunting" and killing which in reality '
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Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
you all do not even "hunt" you just sit in your cowardly tree stand with your bait and lure waiting for the deer to come to you then you kill.
You mean you find "fun" in killing because what you do there is no "hunting". For man to enjoy killing is no different then serial "enjoy" killing human for "fun".
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
ok holy shit you think hunting causes deer to get hit the city you live in causes them to get hit you just got the facts from someone else who passed them to you but have you ever been in the woods probly not i get the facts first hand not from someone else thats how rumors are started i could tell people all sorts of stuff thats not true and they pass it on very much like your doing
bowtechfan14 2 years ago 2
"holy shit" what is that gibberish you are writing,?!lol
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
its very effective in ky alone 120000 deer were controlled whats your idea lets hear it
bowtechfan14 2 years ago
@bowtech
and how many were "controlled" the year before and the years before that? I bet not much difference.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
OK so if it is not effective for reducing wildlife then why are you complaining and why do we need to stop it? Are you saying we need to kill more deer somehow? Would you rather run into them with your hybrid? Man you are so wonderful and fabulous Oh it must feel sooo good to care so much about everything and know you are sooo much better than everyone else.
olrednec 2 years ago
@olrednec
As the result of hunting deer vehicle accident has gone up. Hunting is not about "reduction' of deer population, its about profiting from the amount of tags DNR sells so they will always need the abundance of deer (mainly the antlered) to do such that is why we need to stop it. Its a senseless pain and suffering for our innocent deer that are always blamed for everything when its the hunting organization that are the cause of all deer related problems.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
The more I learned the more I believe that the victims of DVA's should sue the state wildlife agencies or at least let them pay for hospitals, funerals etc.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
Just for the sake of arguement, let's say that it is not an effective management tool. Then that means we need to kill more deer. Deer birth control? are you kidding? How do you intend on managing th distribution of that without stopping reproduction altogether or costing trillions? I tell you what. Go set up a sex ed class in the woods and hand out free condoms and morning after pills to the deer. That's how rediculous you guys sound. You are so full of shit your eyes are turning brown
olrednec 2 years ago
Deer birth control has been used and its been working. Each day as we speak its getting more and more advanced and its scaring the crap out of hunters.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
We also have deer birth control that works but the hunting organization rejects it and continue to lie and mislead the public about the effectiveness, safety and the cost of IC. They fear it because they know it will works then what will hunting organization do without the fawn births?
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
Deer birth control??? You're an idiot.
lint23 2 years ago
Bow hunting is a great way to hunt if you can actually shoot. you are supposed to only shoot shots that you think you can make a quick and clean kill. my limit i set for myself is 50 yards because i am nationally ranked in archery.
unc9089 2 years ago
99% of bowhunted deer death is not "quick" so that means 99% of you scumbag cannot shoot accurately including you mr "nationally ranked in archery" guy.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
I like how you have the rage three blade in the back ground... Great product, i havent lost a deer yet with this broadhead. Opens em up, makes for a quick recovery! Thanks for the video!
cbell3111 2 years ago
It does not make for a "quick death" and I will post a video response. "Rage" has been around for several years but there are still so many wounded and crippled animals and imagine one of these hit a child, pets or anyone whose the arrow was not the intention. Scary don't you think?
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
Here is an article written from Mad cow disease website (link is on the video info)
"As you can see by reading this article [below] in this afternoon's Capital Times of Madison, word is slowly leaking out about what has apparently been a massive decade-long feeding of "supplements" (including meat and bone meal as mineral and protein) to wild deer in the heart of the "kill zone," the area of the WI Chronic Wasting Disease outbreak."
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
It has been scientifically proven that broadhead arrows have the lowest wounding rate of any weapon used in hunting. See my video about it called "THE TRUTH ABOUT HUNTING."
I may be an avid hunter, but I respect animals-hence the reason I'm studying to be a Biologist- I'm not the brainless killer PETA calls me with their hypocritical movement's lies.
It's true. The info in this video is outdated and for the most part- False.
Mercy4Wildlife, I still commend you for your devotion.
WeaponsEnthusiast 2 years ago
I would suggest everyone check "weaponenthusiast" video. Its just another same old hogwash of "quick clean kill" comment from bowkillers I get everyday under my videos but instead this one made it into a video. What a waste of window movie maker lol!
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
Liar. Don't put words in my mouth. I never said "quick clean kill" I said, "Clean and painless kill." LOL Not Windows movie maker nice guess, Sony vegas Pro.
Besides all you Anti's do in terms of editing is put sad music in your videos so people think you are benefiting the greater good; when in reality, you're just an Anit.....no need to argue with people who can't see past their emotions to real facts.
WeaponsEnthusiast 2 years ago
I will reply to your message again because you ignore and instead just repeat your self. Go to my blogger and read.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
If you would really believe what you say you would have the deciency to post what the others say.Or are you afraid?
celt130 2 years ago
When I am here the comment gets posted and replied, if you are not happy about it then run along. Byeeeee
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
MERCY4WILDLIFE,
fools like you should not be allowed to breed...
aussiebowhunter64 2 years ago
Why are hunters supplement feeding deer if there is overpopulation to begin with? Why is it that its ok for hunters to feed deer in which can spread CWD but non-hunters are told they are not to because of disease spreading.? Why do they talk about antler growth, "Fawn recruitment" , "fawn production" , "killing of predators" if its about "reduction" of deer?
EvilExposed 2 years ago
And the point is?
conservhunter 2 years ago
I think you need to read some real scientific articles and not some things written on pro-animal sites.You don't know that CJD can be genetical,no you don't.Neither do you know that from 1958 till 1985 people where given hormones coming out of the putuitary gland coming from dead people and that some patients got CJD from there.Nowhere in those scientific articles are there any claims that you make.Like I said,greed from the agro-farming community led to this situation.Give me your articles.
celt130 2 years ago
CWD was spread by supplement feeding deer, rendered animals to get protein for antler growth.
"Apparently no one in the CWD research community has ever investigated the possibility that CWD may be spreading via rendered feed (mineral, fat and protein supplements), as happened in Britain with mad cow disease. This needs to be investigated immediately as a possible third means of infection for CWD, along with suspected animal-to-animal transmission and environmental contamination."
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
"As you can see from the excerpts of two books below on feeding wild deer, there has been a huge push over the past 10-15 years of supplemental feeding of both game farmed elk and deer and wild deer to grow bigger animals with huge-boned antlers."
And guess what? Hunters still supplement feed deer though not rendered animals but the way the deer come together in one to eat will spread it . Funny how hunters tell us not to feed deer because it can spread CWD yet they do it themselves. HYPOCRITE
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
i pray the pain will be taken away from the deer and put upon all the widlife serial killers sometimes in their lives. May you suffer horrible fate for what you do to our wildlife and no one have mercy on your life! WOW SPEAKING OF SERIAL KILLERS THAT JUST ABOUT DESTROYS YOUR ARGUMENT FOR RESPECT TO LIVING THINGS WHEN YOU WISH DEATH AND PAIN ON FELLOW HUMANS PICK A SIDE CHIEF AND STICK TO IT,CAUSE YOUR CREDABILITY SUCKS JUST LIKE THE MUSIC ON YOUR VIDEO
jjtrain44 2 years ago
lets rewrite your comments
"WOW SPEAKING OF SERIAL KILLERS THAT JUST ABOUT DESTROYS YOUR ARGUMENT FOR RESPECT TO LIVING THINGS WHEN YOU WISH DEATH AND PAIN ON HUMANS TO KILL ANIMAL JUST FOR THE SHEER FUN OF IT AND TROPHY. PICK A SIDE CHIEF AND STICK TO IT,CAUSE YOUR CREDABILITY SUCKS JUST LIKE THE MUSIC ON YOUR VIDEO"
Now doesn't that make more sense?
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
You are talking about CJD, what exactly has that to do with hunting?CJD is a product of modern farming strategy,a strategy that your country likes a lot,it is called capitalism,making money at whatever cost for the environement.Giving carcasses to farm animals was never a good idea to begin with, but it has nothing to do with hunting.If you talk about what is wrong in the farming industry why not talk about genetic changed wheat or soja,but plants don't have rights or pain in your dogma, right?
celt130 2 years ago
CJD/Mad Deer Disease was spread by deer and elk farming for trophy deer.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
CJD/Mad Deer Disease was also spread naturally. It was the hunter that made the biggest impact. Not FATE, nor any other animal rights activist groups. Something else, deer/car accidents are due to overwelming amount of drivers in the state, and many don't pay attention to the roads to start with. I have more to say. People are encrouching, ok, but it is the cities that r growing, making the farmers expand, you want b/c how about controlling Our pop. first. say no more than 2 kids per female.
whatisunknown 2 years ago
Sure DVA rise could be more people and more car but should not be more deer. That means hunting organization should not be "providing" more deer for hunters to kill, every year state wildlife agencies put billions of dollars into burning timbers, clear cutting forest, planting food plants in order to "grow" large herd mainly the buck deer. Its amazing the time and money spend "providing" these antlered deer for hunters to kill year after year..
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
I think you missed a few things here. The clear cut timbers, are not only for having lush undergrowth, but the timber goes for things like paper, lumber, and such. I have never seen a state agency planting a food plot, if you have documentation, then I would love to see it. State regulations manage herds by making size restrictions on hunters. In my state, the limit is 3 bucks, at least one has to have 4 points on one side. I bowhunt so my season is very long, and I can take 1 doe everyday.
whatisunknown 2 years ago
I have said this before if you want "proof" go into the video information and there is a link to my blogger there you can see photos of burning timbers, food plots etc. You can even read about food crops and "fawn recruites" or how kill does to ensure abundance of food for the to create healthy twins and hopefully triplets. More does does not mean more babies if there is lack of food source in most cases it can do the opposite and you just end up with lots of does that hunters do not want.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
"Apparently no one in the CWD research community has ever investigated the possibility that CWD may be spreading via rendered feed (mineral, fat and protein supplements), as happened in Britain with mad cow disease. This needs to be investigated immediately as a possible third means of infection for CWD, along with suspected animal-to-animal transmission and environmental contamination."
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
"As you can see from the excerpts of two books below on feeding wild deer, there has been a huge push over the past 10-15 years of supplemental feeding of both game farmed elk and deer and wild deer to grow bigger animals with huge-boned antlers. "
continue next is hunters website talking about supplement feeding deer for large antler growth and herd size
cont
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
"Deer managers agree that supplemental feeding, whether it be protein pellets, whole cotton seed, or some other type of high-protein food, really helps local deer populations."
("helps local deer population"?)
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
"Managing for proper nutrition in white-tailed deer is important for good body condition, good fawn production and recruitment, and maximum antler growth. Good nutrition can be accomplished by doing three things that involve proper habitat management, supplemental feeding, and the planting of food plots."
"good fawn production" "fawn recruitment" "antler growth"
You are all pathetic I thought it was about "reduction" and also more buck deer to be in heat during mating season.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
So man are not natural killers,wondering why we as humans survived for all those millions of years?Humans like to kill and that's what make us so succesfull.Sure we don't have claws,great strength or big theeth but we got something that is much better.We can think and organize strategies and we walk on 2 feet so we can use tools we invent to kill.Before being hunters we where scavengers or canibals to get our meat, and you to are still just a primitive monkey with a suit on who thinks he is god.
celt130 2 years ago
"Humans like to kill "
Yes I guess that is why we have Jails and prisons.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
Your right, I guess that is why we have executions. To satisfy your need to kill people. Others kill to eat, not you though, you just need the prisons to kill people. Even though you eat food, you think you don't kill, and are not reponsible. I guess you never swatted a fly, or slapped a mosquito. Never had Thanksgiving turkey, or a steak. Never ate corn, beans, or wheat. Because animals die in thier harvest. Nope you never did any of that huh?
whatisunknown 2 years ago
"swatted a fly and swat a mosquito" yep I did , ooo what a "murderer" I am lol
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
The thing is, that hunters know where their food comes from, and others simply don't. Farmers know where food comes from, and what happens when harvest time comes. If you think that mosquitos and flies deserve to die, then why not deer? I just want you to see that your not seeing reasonably. The world needs hunters, and hunters need game. It's the circle of life. If we get caught by cougar in the woods..are you going to protest big cat rights? I don't think you would.
whatisunknown 2 years ago
You think you are the same as flies and mosquito's? Because if you compare the life of a deer to a fly of mosquito then you too are a bug.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
"the world needs hunters" show me where this is a fact that the "world needs hunters" . No we dont "need" human lowlife killing animals for recreational purpose (sports and trophy) . Its a "circle of life"? LOL. You all kill for "sports" not survival and nothing to do with food. If you get "caught" by cougars then you too should do your share of that "circle of life" for man too is meal for carnivores.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
I replied to that one with the example of the canton de Géneve where hunting is stopped since the seventies,but once again you didn't make it public so you know the truth that even where hunting is totally stopped the local governement still needs to hunt animals that are breeding to much.The only difference is the fact that gamewardens do it,not hunters.Strange they do not use birthcontrol for this purpose.
celt130 2 years ago
Let me be as blunt and straightforward as I can. I see antihunters as scum of the earth. Unwilling to actually see the truth of anything, only what they want. To me, you life rates lower than that of an insect that needs to be crushed. What the fuck have you ever done to help anything? I mean not just being a bitch on the com. I mean actually doing something. Have you or any group you belong to ever saved an endangered species? No, I know you haven't because of the BS you put here. Hunters do.
whatisunknown 2 years ago
hmm, lets see anti-hunters wants save animals from pain and suffering and also human lives from deer vehicle accidents caused by the hunting industry. Hunting people wants to destroy innocent defenseless lives for "sports" and trophy and lie to the public that they are the ones "reducing" deer vehicle accident and deer population when in fact deer herd are deliberately populated for hunters recreational purpose. See link to my blogger on video information. Learn the truth
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
Typical of these animal rights douchebags. They don't let you comment.
Rasnixful 2 years ago
Then whats is the comments that you see? Anti-killers and abusers of the innocent have to put their videos on "pending approval" because of the sadistic and evil nature of hunters and the stuff they love to leave here. If you don't like it you don't have to be here. Byeeee
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
Lol. You are a cowardly cunt. But you know that.
Pussy lips scraping the ground. And ignorant to boot.
Rasnixful 2 years ago
you say bowhunting makes it unsafe, yet check how many fatalaties there were with bows last year! i'll be waiting.....
now you are entitled to your opinions and thats all they are so hold strong to them because thats what makes us different,
Bizwik67 2 years ago
I have heard of human injuries with bowhunting more so to the innocent people and to the pets. Plus now in NJ they will be using crossbows and non-crippled hunters wants to use it so now there be more danger for crossbows shoots like a gun. Overall weapons with razor sharp ends is a danger and one human lives or even pets lost from it was unnecessary because killing for "sports" is unnecessary and bowhunting has nothing to do with "reducing " deer population.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
If any one is hurt while bowhunting it is their own fault...there are stupid and unlucky people all over. They are by far the exeption not the rule. Pets harmed? no one can mistake any pet for any huntable animal. If there are injuries to them it's because the person doing it wanted to, and they are the ones that all of YOU like to use to stereotype responcible hunters.
RedArrowArchery 2 years ago
"Pets harmed? no one can mistake any pet for any huntable animal."
Look at how many of you wildlife killers mistaken each other for a turkey, doves, deer or squirrel. Look at the hunting accident list on video information.
"Responcible hunters."
And because there are more irresponsible wildlife killers we do not need you because we have deer birth contro that works l and hunting which does not work (deer vehicle accident has gone up as the result of hunting)
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
Oh its funny that you answer my posts but don't show them under your video. Frightened other people will see i'm right I reckon lol
cabelas1987 2 years ago
Like I said when I hit "approve" sometime it don't stick and if you are not happy about it then move on. You are waste of my time any way for you repeat the same damn thing.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
You know visits sooo many hunters website, bloggers, youtubes, DNR, Fish and wildlife etc etc and from what I have read (and hunters told me this too) that male deer meat especially the mature one (big rack) is not the greatest., So spare me your "bark, acorns , sapling blahblahblah...when there are mad deer disease and CWD out there that killed hunters and God knows how many people at the pantries may get sick in years to come. Mad deer disease is s slow killer.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
I love it when you get mad. You act like a little kid. Ha ha ha ha... grow up. When you lose an argument, have some self respect and lose it graciously. I would. But since it is impossible to lose an argument with you, I don't have to worry about it. "Mad Deer Disease is a slow killer" That is funny. My pap is 84, and his diet is 90% meat (half of that venison) and he is still farming. His dad died at 94 in his sleep, and he was bailing hay the day before he died. You are funny.
WhiteOak79 2 years ago
Mad deer has just surface in US about 10-15 years ago. Your pop probably did not get it but obviously we know that pantries got plenty of it now from the "hunters for hungry" program. Where is it that I am "mad"? The only reason for my anger is the outrage of what you do to our wildlife and keep making excuses for it. That is what the outrage is!
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
I'm having trouble finding any documentation of "Mad Deer" on any non-biased web sites. Its all over animal rights sites, but I'm yet to find it anywhere else. Are you sure it exists? Or is it listed beside "Bigfoot sightings" or "Easter Bunny" or "Normal Animal Rights Supporter" or some other figment of imagination?
WhiteOak79 2 years ago
I found couple on hunting forums so you are not searching for it, you just pretend you are.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
Oh! You meant CWD! Which has not even been found in PA. Which is so rare that you have a better chance of getting struck by lightning or winning the lottery. You can also get diseases from veges too. The veges you eat are so contaminated with pesticides/herbicides and feces. But Im still gonna eat tomatoes and green onions. You can get sick from eating anything, should we just quit eating all together?
WhiteOak79 2 years ago
we can wash veggie and even buy organic its nothing compared to mad deer and cwd. Watch the video on playlist about CJD and it real scary stuff. Plus deer carcass also have pesticide especially urban and suburban deer but of course you have nothing to worry about because you don't eat them but the pantries does.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
all that talk of "reducing" is a sham and a lie. NJ continue to deceive the public too about deer birth control which can definitely bring the population and will stay down. I guess to the hunters and the wildlife agencies believes that few human lives that die in DVA's are sacrificed for their killing opportunities.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
That is what they do in NJ too (read link) and why dva's and deer overpopulation are always a problem always will be . So long there is hunting there be deer "provided" for the millions of wildlife serial killers.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
do you know that in Indiana deer vehicle accidents are rising yet Indiana's fish and wildlife are "providing" deer for hunting purpose?
"Southeastern Indiana's Zone 5 is a nine-county area that is known to produce plenty of deer with its excellent habitat, and higher deer density. The zone produced 15,784 deer in 2006, compared with the 16,786 deer it produced the previous year. Six of the zone's counties produced at least 1,500 deer in 2006."
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
just a point on the "Natural" part of hunting. did you know that a study was done on monkeys in the wild. They actually create tools to help bust into nests and trees that contain hives/colonies of insects or animals that they eat. they have also been seen using them as weapons or for defense to beat down or block an opponent or predator in the wild. Man didnt teach them to do that surely. They worked it out and climbed up the food chain. Evolution?
tequese 2 years ago
Being that chimps are very much like us they will use tools when necessary. I have a video up on my other channel of a chimp using stones to crack open a nuts. Chimp is a frugivore whose diet is 95% plants, rest is termites and 1.4% meat which is really not about diet but for sexual exchange. What you do is not 'hunting" its killing, and you say that its "natural" for man to kill? If that was the case we will all be killing and it would not disgust us.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
Overall there is nothing "natural" about mass killing of wildlife for "sports" and the drastic drop in deer population is a shock to the eco-balance every year.
Man do not belong in the the animal home killing for sports with their ATV, tree stand, bait and lures , bow, guns etc. Nothing "natural" about it.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
whenever I get comment like this.
"They will often wait for a period of time after shooting the deer, especially if the shot is not perfect, as if they move in too early it cause cause the deer to run on much further and make it almost impossible to find.
Every effort is put into retrieving deer for their meat and trophy."
Is no "natural" predators of the wild, true predators do not have to wait because they have speed and all the right NATURAL weapon to catch and kill their prey quickly.
ALLdeersgo2heaven 2 years ago
you mean to say "man" is no natural predators of the wild and you are absolutely right.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
Nonsense, you have a very narrow minded view of what a predator is. What about venemous snakes which quickly bite their prey, inject it with venom, wait for it to take effect and follow the animals trail. Is that not natural? Of course it is. All predators have their own tools and methods for hunting. We use intelligence to make tools to hold in our hands. Our ability to make, hold and use tools were all developed naturally.
cabelas1987 2 years ago
Humans do however, have marvelous fingers, thumbs, and limbs for reaching, climbing and grabbing. Our natural food gathering capacity is very similar to the chimpanzees. Fruitarians of the primate order also have revolving joints in their shoulder, wrist, and elbow joints that allow for free movement in all directions. Frugivores have soft pliable, sensitive hands and fingers with opposable thumbs and flat nails that are perfect for grasping and gathering fruit.
(not for killing) sorry
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
Same with meat eating. Our tools have evolved rather than our anatomy.
cabelas1987 2 years ago
Nothing has "evolved" you don't make your tools the slob wildlife killers buy their weapons from the "sportsmans" stores not make them. Hunters need all the manufactured made products to go out and kill an animals for trophy. Its beyond pathetic.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
So if say 10,000 years ago in a group of people one man produced all the flint blades as he was the most skilled at it, the other people in the group could not be called hunters. Don't be so stupid and let your emotions get in the way of plain facts.
Humans tools evolve over time rather than our anatomy, it is very simple and does not make us any less of a hunter.
cabelas1987 2 years ago
Human created tools for the purpose of survival at one time. Yes we have the brain to make and use tools to help us because we are pretty helpless species without our brain but that is not say that making tool even weapons tell us we are "natural" hunters in the world because we are not. How about we can clench our fist and punch someone does not mean out hands was made to beat people up. Stop making excuses as to why you kill, just admit you enjoy snuffing out innocent lives that is all.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
You are in denial, it is simple. You know full well i is a natural part of human behaviour to kill for food. Why is it that you consider something we have done for thousands of years unnatural, but doing something like avoiding meat or all meat products natural, when we have only done it for a minute fraction of our existance?
I enjoy hunting, humans have evolved to. I also kill because I enjoy eating meat and know that certain species need to be controlled for wildlife management.
cabelas1987 2 years ago
"You know full well i is a natural part of human behaviour to kill for food."
First of all man has absolutely NO "desire" to kill for food unless its for pure survival. What you all do is not kiling for "food" its for "sports" and some may eat the carcass but its not out of necessity or survival. Yes People killed because they needed to live off animals at one time and some still do (climate, regions etc). But yours is an excuse because your desire to kill is like that of serial killers
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
Todays killing of deer by the hundreds of thousands in few short months is for "sports" and trophy not for survival. Look at the website on all the kiling gear you can buy and I watched a video on rage blade they are about 10 dollar for one blade so that means bowhunting not for poor. Bowhunting is for people who have money and love to kill for "sports" so spare me your food excuses.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
The desire to kill is that of serial killers? You make me want to puke! You first of all must be a vegitarian, right?
RedArrowArchery 2 years ago
snake have their own natural built in ways to kill animals man do not. When you see a human baby born with an bow or gun let me know then I say its "natural".
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
Where are the coyotes and foxes because hunters kill them too? Man is no "natural" predators in the wild for natural predators do not leave wounded animals they have the speed to catch the animals and bring them down . they have to for the purpose of killing if for hunger and survival. Man bring their herbivore ass out to the forest with thousand of dollars with of lures, baits, tree stands, bows, arrow, guns, bullets etc to kill animals but they still end up wounding and losing them.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
Again we are a natural predator of animals. Our strategy may lead to the wounding of other aniamls but there is no doubt it is more successful than any other predators. Evolution of our large brain was natural. Making tools is natural for us. Using are brains to solve problems is natural for us. Put that all together and you get hunting. How can we use tools to kill those fast elusive deer? for a lion that wouldn't be natural but for us it is.
cabelas1987 2 years ago
It still not "natural" for you are using a product that is made , that would be like riding on a air balloon and then claiming your are a "natural" flier which you are not. Only birds are natural fliers.
You are a manufactured made "predators" without your weapons and other crap you could catch no fleeting animals and all animals do want to live so they run. If man was meant to kill and eat meat you would be naturally equipped to do just that.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
I am nataurally equiped, with a large brain. You just don't seem to get it. Man has only flown for 100 years or so. We have hunted for thousands, almost certainly to some extent millions of years , it is natural.
cabelas1987 2 years ago
Then man truelty hunted (searched) for food for hunger and survival (necessity) today most of you have thousands of dollar worth of killing equipment hang out in tree stands with bait and lures waiting for the animals to come to you then you kill. The object of being out there is to kill an animals for "sports" and trophy like some serial killers nothing about hunger or food and when I watch some of the snuff videos that killer upload I can't help want to vomit of how pathetic you all are .
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
I dont understand why you think that hunters do eat what they kill. If you know any hunters i bet if you go and look in their freezer after hunting season they will have meat from the animal in there. People hunt because they love the meat, they love the hunt, and yes of course we love shooting the animals, but the majority of the time we eat what we shoot and if we dont eat it something else will like a coyote.
MnDeerHunter09 2 years ago
"and yes of course we love shooting the animals,"
That we believe and the fact that hunters leaves thousands upon thousands of wounded deer in the forest ground only to suffer and die. No wonder the gun season comes after bow so maybe they can end up shooting the wounded animals miserable existance after the bowkillers wounded them. All that managing deer population is a load of crock because NJ fish and wildlife provides the abundance of deer for hunters recreational purpose.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
Blah Blah blah blah thats all I get from you. Thousands of deer are not intentially left in the woods, unfortunately they the animals had a weak blood trail or something that made it difficult to find. Bow season begins before gun season and ends after it. Dont try to act like you know what you're talking about because it is evident that you really have no idea.
MnDeerHunter09 2 years ago
In Wisconsin (there is a link for Associated Press) that hunters did not recover 68,000 wounded deer and even if that was a typo or the calculation was off we know it must have been close it. Now if they can leave that many wounded animals then imagine other wildlife killing states?
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
Oh so that why they have gun season after bow to shoot the wounded ones and can you imagine the suffering the animals endure only to end up being shot by a bullets weeks late. How would you like your life to end that way?
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
the number is probably closer to 6,800 deer. I dont know what you are trying to prove. The deer that are never recovered are usually not wasted. Other animals will use them.
MnDeerHunter09 2 years ago
Its a wasted lives of animals that did not deserve to die. Maybe someone shoot you down for no reason but because its "fun" and then other animals can use you. So please do it and help nature.
Even if the number was 6 it was still an unnecessary pain , suffering and death. I pray the pain will be taken away from the deer and put upon all the widlife serial killers sometimes in their lives. May you suffer horrible fate for what you do to our wildlife and no one have mercy on your life!
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
I will keep track on NJ and their overpopulation problems and deer vehicle all the way into next year and the year after and we will see if there are more complaints of overpopulation and deer vehicle accidents year after year and I bet there will be because hunting is not the solution but the problem .
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
"they love the meat" and if you look at the website for hunter for hungry crap you will lots of buck deer because from what I have heard from several hunters buck deer meat is not good and of course the risk of mad deer disease/CWD is too high so why eat the meat when there is the pantries.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
Firstly I Am Australian so I know nothing about deer, however I think you will find that weather a rifle, handgun, bow or crossbow are used you will find that the majority of people cant shoot properly or hit the right places of the animal.
For example I was hunting with my cousin once with a 22Lr and he wounded 2 and killed one, it took him 7 shots to kill it. The most it has taken me to kill a roo with a 22lr is 3 shots. but I average 1 shot because I go for the head at 70m.
tequese 2 years ago
"Firstly I Am Australian so I know nothing about deer, however I think you will find that weather a rifle, handgun, bow or crossbow are used you will find that the majority of people cant shoot properly or hit the right places of the animal."
You are absolutely right and I have seen animals suffer from bullet but arrow we know that in 99% of the animals shot will suffer because the part of bowhunted animals death is hemorrhaging and its also very hard to get an accurate shot.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
Most of the tracking wounded deer sites are for bowkillers .
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
A .22 LR is way too small for deer. At 20 grains (give or take) and with a muzzle velocity of 1,100-1,700 fps, its balistics are not even in the vicinity to take the animal with one shot. Unless you hit the brain, you are just going to wound the animal. Try upgrading to at least 80-100 grain bullet out of faster modern cartridge (.223, .243, .256 Roberts etc.) and I bet you and your buddies will drop roos like flys.
WhiteOak79 2 years ago
Oh how sad with whiteoacks, he thinks spouting all those digits going to make him sounds like a "smartie" lol
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
It is not "instinct" to use tools. That is why different family groups of chimps use different tools for different tasks. The young are TAUGHT how, when & where to use a specific tool & tactic. I'm not trying to sound smart, It is just really easy to do here. On one side we have you with all this jibberish and on the other side you have me with actual facts. Sounding smart is just a biproduct of using FACTS in an argument. I'm sorry. Would you rather me just type my opinion?
WhiteOak79 2 years ago
As far as human using tool as a method to kill from early man was instinct and their to quench their hunger and clothes themselves from the cold. what does using tools by man to kill other animals today has to do with using tools for other reason such as cracking open a coconut shell? We use tools for all kinds of stuff but using lethal weapons to kill a living being is not a "natural" part of human unless you think that killing human is "natural" too!
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
Yes it is. You are too funny that you can't understand or accept simple points. Just because you disagree with something you think it is unnatural.
Using tools to get food is natural, you agree with that right? Animals are a food source. Humans know this. We made tools to get this food source. That is natural. What part of our modern lifestlye is natural or more natural than hunting?
cabelas1987 2 years ago
Our body is not "natural" made for killing and eating animals no matter how much you want to try and convince yourself. If it was so "natural" you would not need the crap you bring with you to do the "hunting" and the killing. Its more "natural" for man to be the food source for the carnivores and omnivores of the wild.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
So its not natural when a chimp or gorilla uses sticks in a termite mound? What about otters using stones to open up clams? What about bone vultures who drop old bones onto rocks to get the marrow? What about the ant lion building funnels in the sand to trap ants? What about chimps using sticks to reach monkeys in the canopy? It is completely natural to use tools, if you're smart enough to master them. Once again, you're all opinion and no facts.
WhiteOak79 2 years ago
"So its not natural when a chimp or gorilla uses sticks in a termite mound? What about otters using stones to opes?"
What these animals do is by instinct same with very man did when the freeze came and they knew that veggie was scarce and starvation and cold is what made them make tools to kill. Today the tools are made by the manufacture for the purpose of killing for "sports". If that was the case that human killers could say that guns was made for man to be able to kill humans.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
Just for your info... I've shot at 13 deer with a bow. Recovered 11, the other 2 were clean misses. And I know for a fact, because they both ended up shot in rifle season. I'd say thats pretty efficient, of 11 hits... 11 recoveries. And if I ever do lose one, I can take a little solice knowing that the Coyotes, Oppossums, Foxes & countless other creatures will benefit from it. But I practice all year to hopefully keep that from happening.
WhiteOak79 2 years ago
So the wounded animals can suffer long enough till gun season that is if they do not die before that or if they do not even get hit. You think that make us feel "better?" LOL
Mass killing deer benefits nothing but your damn self. that is nothing natural about bunch of yahoos' in the forest slaughtering wildlife by the thousands and leaving thousands more wounded and crippled because that is not how nature works.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
They were not wounded! Jeez, you do not listen to anything. They were both shot in rifle season a month later, and there was not a scratch on them... besides the big hole from the rifle. And I did'nt care if it made you feel better, I don't really care how you feel. You stated that bowhunters wound 50% of the time... I was just telling you thats not true.
WhiteOak79 2 years ago
"You stated that bowhunters wound 50% of the time.."
I think its a whole lot more then that.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
Cabelas1987 of course you can live your life, and do the things you choose to, as long as you do it the way a certain group of commies wants you to. Quit trying to have a intelligent debate. Just listen, read, and do as Mercy tells you to.
Downedworker 2 years ago
Thats right : )
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
Answer me this question, which benifits wildlife more.
Mass agriculture to produce the food to sustain our massive population or hunting?
One has led massive areas of habitat being destroyed and the decline of many many species. The other requires natural habitats to be preserved providing a home for many species and a reason not to destroy further habitats for agriculture.
cabelas1987 2 years ago
Neither. You destroy the eco-balance where deer are created for recreational purpose and hundred of thousands are killed every year. What is good about it? You have the WMAs where they provide ample food for the deer after mass killing to ensure more deer to by the next season, compensatory rebound and to create wildlife only to kill is nothing to be proud of.
do you consume dairy? No bacon either?
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
You are in denial, and stop refering to what I do, I live in England and we manage to control our deer popualtion through culling, not increase it.
Yes I eat dairy and bacon, i'm not saying I get all my food from the wild. It's irrelevant, the point is one destroys habitat the other preserves it. Preservation of habitat is clearly better for wildlife.
cabelas1987 2 years ago
"preservation of habitat for what? So you can use it as the killing field for "sportsman"? Is that were they propagate more game animals by clear cutting and planting food that deer loves so they give birth to twins and triplets sometimes quadruplet from what I heard. Younger does giving birth too because of mass killing the deer compensate for the loss. That is why overpopulation is never ending in the most hunted state. Its all about blood money.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
It does not matter why habitat is preserved, it is the fact that wildlfe is benifitted that is important. The problem is that your views are so clouded by emotion, "poor sentient beings" that you can not see there is nothing wrong with hunting.
cabelas1987 2 years ago
You telling me that leaving thousands wounded is "benefiting" our wildlife? How about human lives from deer vehicle accidents that hunting communities have caused. If I was one of those who got injured or loved one dies I sue the the state with everything I know and get the best lawyer ever and bring the Hunting industry down.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
Well technically yes. If those figures are correct then yes it does still benifit wildlife.
Predators play an important role in the ecosystem by creating carcases which many other species from birds of prey, corvids, small mammals and invertebrates rely on. In the abscence of large carnivores these species will often suffer. If bow hunting does injure as many deer as you say then it is creating those carcases and filling a missing part of the ecosystem. so yes it does benifit wildlife.
cabelas1987 2 years ago
You can not blame DVA on hunters. It is a drivers responsibility to be aware of what is on the road and take care if you are in an area where there is likely to be deer on the road.
Man has hunted deer long before we had cars, it is the fact that there is too much traffic now that is to blame. Sureley you should be trying to ban driving as it wounds many deer and directly costs the lives of many people each year. To blame it on hunters is clutching at straws.
cabelas1987 2 years ago
there is a link called "why we have too many deer' and I think everyone should read it although 'hunters' do know that killing does not work and that killing just keep the population level up for every season deer slaughter for "sports" and trophy thus causing DVA's.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
It depends on how many deer are culled. Here in the UK deer populations are well managed through controlled culls. There is no reason why that can not be done there
cabelas1987 2 years ago
When you get to US you finish commenting here. :P
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
The only right solution for long term deer population reduction is IC deer birth control. The fact is no matter how you want to twist it and turn it killing does not and never did work because lethal deer management is not about "reduction" but a bloody business for State DNR.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
Thats great and all but that just seems to me a little selfish to me. Here is an animal that did ask to be hunted or have its home being taken over so now we out now going to decide for them which they have no say in the matter, "Hey we are going to stop from you guys from having babies." That to me just does not sound right either. Its something like we did to the indians the native of this land hey we are taking over your land and we are going to control what you do.
jalas57 2 years ago
Dont get me wrong i take you have a good opion and its backed by various facts. To be honest death is always will be apart of life and its inhumanes ways, but really you have to look at the big picture here. You might as well call yourself a killer as well if you drive a car or ride in a highway. The true problem is not hunting these animals its just humans as a bigger picture. Its us taking over this animals habbitat to create roadways so we can drive our big cars.
jalas57 2 years ago
@jalas57
That is right, we took their home and land, WE ALL DID and I did too but that is all the more reason why we be more compassionate to these innocent life. What did the animals do to deserve such sadism done to them in their own home ? Why do you all feel its your 'right" to kill them for recreational purpose when it was not their fault?
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
But what make it worse is that deer population is created for recreational hunting purpose in NJ and other states like PA , Ohio and Michigan.I am sure many other very hunted states works the same way and that is the reason for the never ending deer problems and DVA's.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
Deer Hunting is not just to prevent DVAs. Its more than that, its something you can't put into words. Call us whatever you want, but we are the definition of good people. We help our neighbors, we love our kids and we go to work everyday. You're the one with no family, yet you act like you love people so much. Get a life, get married, have some kids and then your little crusade will drop right to the bottom of your priorities.... Psycho. Byeeee!
WhiteOak79 2 years ago
Hunting is "more than that?" Really? Like what else because we have just about stripped away 'hunters' BS, lies and euphemism. Anyway, so long charlie LOL
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
YOU are a serial killer of wildlife and the rape of nature. Man have no purpose causing pain and suffering in the homes of the animals, that is not part of nature at all. You are all an abnormality for mass killing animals within 3 months every year is extremely not normal and its no wonder deer react with compensatory rebound and how you have never ending problem with overpopulation and Deer Vehicle Accidents.
NepheshAngel 2 years ago
If you google "tracking wounded deer" you will find many site that tell you how to especially for bow'hunter'
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
Overall bowhunters know how these animals death will be like but could give a damn about it. If they were so "ethical" i would believe they would give up using the bow altogether and at least opt for the shotgun though I would wish nothing at all. Majority of bowhunters are trophy hunters and personally I hate using the word "hunters' because that is not what you do, well maybe when you have to track the wounded deer.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
I feel sorry for NJ and thank God I don't live there but the innocent people and the animals are going to suffer a great deal and all for nothing but to satisfy the sick killers.
BlackeyedPea10 2 years ago
Killing from humans is not "natural", if we have a choice to use a non-lethal compassionate method and end the never ending problems of deer overpopulation and DVA's don't you think that is important? I know you care nothing for the animals world but at least care for the human world.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
How will non-lethal methods work any better? In the short term you still have a high population of deer and you still have to go into the woods to administer the drugs to the deer, causing the same disturbance as hunting which you blame for the high number of DVA's.
When the population is reduced, if it is deer will increase the number of young they raise the same as with hunting. The drugs only work for so long. Who is going to keep giving them and who will foot the bill?
cabelas1987 2 years ago
In 'hunting' there are millions of killers in the woods everyday for 3 months of deer killing and reason for high DVA's. . IC has been done already in Fire Island with 60% reduction in deer herd size. IC works like our birth control, naturally. In 'Hunting' you mass kill (unnatural), sudden drop in deer population which deer biologically reacts to the loss by giving birth earlier in age and to twins and triplets.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
An island is a lot different than trying to carry it out on the mainland. I'm scepticlae as to how practicle it would be. I assumed the drugs are administered through darting. How many people are you going to have to employ to carry this out and is it sustainable. As soon as you stop darting they are able to breed again.
cabelas1987 2 years ago
How many sadistic people have been in the woods destroying innocent lives causing immense pain and suffering to our sentient life for "sports" and trophy"? How much more pain and suffering do you want to cause our wildlife? Haven't they endured enough from your selfishness? You are like the other wildlife killers that keeps making up their own conclusion to IC that you know nothing about.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
I haven't made conclusions, i have an opinion and have asked questions. I do not see how on a large scale it can be practicle. Perhaps you could explain why i'm wrong and it would work.
Animals kill other animals all across the world each day. Often for survival but often not. We are an animal which has evolved tools which make us a hunter. Through evolution we have gained the right to hunt deer.
cabelas1987 2 years ago
'Hunting' is not a "right" its a privilege.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago
Evolution has given man the right to hunt.
cabelas1987 2 years ago
Your "evolved" to nothing more then a stupid evil human with the mind of a serial killer.
Mercy4Wildlife 2 years ago