Elitism is the reason the Goth scene left me cold back in the late 80's, seems like same mentality with Steam Punk. All "subculture" looks are great,alot of room for creativity and mixing them up. I make my clothes,buy them second-hand.Why pay $100 for a skirt you can make for $20. Wear whatever,steampunk one day,rock-a-billy the next. Don't get into the"Be individual,as long as you're an individual just like me" mentality. Be what you want when you want! Be an INDIVIDUAL! (just my opinion)
@aRiana992 it's cool, you're too cool for nerdy stuff. got it. but "goth" isn't nerdy. and "punk" isn't either. even though I haven't met a single goth or punk who isn't nerdy as all hell.
The definition of steampunk is very similar to that definition of pornography "I can't explain it, but I know it when I see it." This also encompasses the unsaid half, which is "I also know it when I don't see it.* Some people's definition is so loose, that anything with the label 'steampunk" on it qualifies. Hence a lot of people today are getting rich relabeling all that old Mad Max Road Warrior gear they had in the closet.
*milk comes out of nose* IS THAT MY DRAMA TEACHER FROM 7TH GRADE?! *grabs monitor screen and holds it up to face, nose squished against screen* ....no...no...NO WAIT! *pull out yearbook* no...darn...
Haha, Nice. In all honesty, some of those looked cheesy. But I guess, as the definition of steampunk has been so blatantly stated, any version of one's imagination of steampunk is, in fact, steampunk.
Also, at 1:00, the flag in the background: Albanian double-headed eagle. Red and black, baby!
In every subculture there is a group of retards trying to limit and catagorise shit like this, always complaining about what the true culture, thats why I gave up trying to fit in and decide to be me: A rockingotheavymetalcabaretlovingpunksteampsychodelic guy.
with all these stolen pics u at least could have made a hd vid with a higher bitrate...but the music wuz good though..not my fav work of mendelson but still fine
Yeah, I'll tell you what the Victorians did when they got their hands on technology ahead of its time-- they blew themselves to pieces for four years in World War 1. In their tinplate flying machines and creaky wind-up mechanical tanks, they managed enough wholesale slaughter to take most of the quaint out of "steam punk" for me. Any unearned quantum leap in technology can turn into a leap over the edge of an abyss.
Yeah. Steampunk is just Victorians or any time round about then or Edwardian with technology way ahead of it's time. But how would it look constructed back then. A fine example is Wild Wild West. and At the Earths core. Two pretty good movies. I love steampunk. and the women look fantastic. Hope it never dies. Looks like a great night. All the best.
LOL , true Steampunk was the the industrial revolution that occurred in the 19Th and early 20Th century . People were really building great stuff in thier garages back then .The first airplane , the automobile , submarines , high speed boats , gyrocars and gyrotrains , the phone , electric light , radio ... our modern world is over 100 years old . Chuckle ...It's a great period to play around with , but it takes more then slapping some brass gears on stuff ,it doesn't need to cost a lot though.
The guy featured most in this video, (good pic of just him at 0:35) is Danny/Vincent M. Dantes, (VladislausDantes on deviantart), he's an amazing artist and costumer. He makes most (if not all) of the costumes and accessories that he wears and carries. There's more pics on his dA account and on outlandarmour[dot]com, and I'm pretty sure the rest of them are part of his group of friends and fellow steampunks. Just thought someone should give some credit to the guy, since the credits don't :)
I'm kind of interested in finding out more about this sort of thing, but for some reason I'm trying to understand it still, is it kind of the same idea of league of extraordinary gentlemen, victorian era but with todays technology in a victorian style?? Metallica done to chamber music?? False limbs powered by pistons and that sort of thing??
I put some thought into what the term "true steampunk" might entail. I do not think that the person who calls this "true steampunk" intended on creating strictures on creativity. I think that there is a basic consensus of what steampunk is, and that would be 1. Neovictorian 2. Certain aesthetic elements such as gears, steam tech, and especially brass. I would also add that other cultures from the 1800's would also be included, but the English heritidge of Steampunk deserves respect.
@snowbladetaki Not sure if you know, so pleasedon't be offended. Fallout is based on an alternate timeline where the USA (not sure about the rest of the world) kept a 1950's attitude towards things including style and customs. In my view it is quite steampunk in the sense of an alternate timeline and some of it's styling. But this isn't really obvious at first. I know for certain that Fallout 3 and New Vegas have steam punk influences.
@TheBobajango I know this. Steampunk is where you mix modern day science and engineering with victorian age styles. Pretty sure the victorian age wasn't in the 1950's
bioshock is not steampunk its dieselpunk which is around the 1950s
the weaponry is going to be similar but still clothing and style is not steampunk
bioshock 3 is looking to be a steampunk style which is odd considering the timeline continues forwards and yet the style reverses
im working on building the bioshock 2 shotgun (including the barrel rotators) for my steampunk collection but i wont be including the dieselpunk clothing and atmosphere style
@hypopsycho Are you sure you even read my post? You guys all cease to amaze me. I said BIOSHOCK INFINITY (which is also known as BIOSHOCK 3) is Steampunk. I never said anything about BIOSHOCK 1 or 2.
i have seen many of these pics in my steampunk research and most are very great.My only problem is the mustaches and beards are so fake.A good facial hair appliance from a costume shop just needs a little combing and love to make it not look like it just came out of a box...Probably a pet peeve to me because facial hair is a part of what i do for a living...
@animalystic420 Imagine if the age of information came about 100 years earlier.. its an individuals take on what life would be like-living in a victorian era.. with basic nano technology..
That really wouldnt be true steampunk. If your going to go for authenticity you should probably invest in aquiring like period clothing versus having all the women dress as slutty as possible. Half the women would be killed in that era for being harlots.
@DianaLoliX3 make your wish come true , by becoming that very great thing your elders didn't, and you know is just great. But don't forget that your elders are great in their own way, they might not have some unique artistic way to express it , but they all have this beautiful treasures. respect them for it.
If I am not mistaken, it goes back to the "Space 1899" game series, an alternate reality where certain elements of magic and science combine to make a Jules Verne type of universe, but also with space and time travel beginning with the discovery of the ability to "sail" in space-time in the mid-1800s. The artwork and style got picked up in several movies so far. Van Helsing, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen and a few straight to video types follow the genre.
@PDXBikes You are indeed mistaken, if you research you learn that both the Victorian/Edwardian aesthetic as well as Wells and Verne inspired art in multiple media has been a continuous facet of the fantasy/sci-fi genre since it's inception nor have they lost any of their appeal over the years. One very easily can see the steampunkesque elements of the early Buster Crab serials, but that is probably before your time. One can point to the Rocketeer and others that certainly pre-date "Space 1899".
Calling it "true" Steampunk does exactly what the movement is against, which is limiting the imagination. It can be the far flung future or an alternate past. Some people have tons of money and tiem to devote to it, others don't. If there's a "True Steampunk" it's whatever and however the person with the imagination envisions it.
@lawstsoul I rap. The words don't rhyme and the music is just me randomly strumming a banjo and blowing in a kazoo. But it's rap because I envision it that way.
I think the fucking point here smartass is that these people went really far to put their imagination into reality, don't flame for some guy celebrating it. infact he may only be calling it "true" steampunk because of the effort they put in, not the content.
@lawstsoul I've seen a rant on youtube about how people where buying trench coats on bargain deals and not makeing it themselves and she said it wasn't steampunk. I though to myself "D: I'll never be a steampunk because I'll never be able to afford the tailored suits and stuff and I'll never have the time and skill to make it!" But this is very reasureing, thanks ^_^
steampunk is an individual envisionment of an alterd future according to the perspective of a patron of the victorian era (or that was the definition when the cocept of the genre was originally created by authors of the victorian era)
but of course given the fact that to most people the genre is kind of vage and that it is 2010 the line between past and future is often not very fine but the original definition of the genre remains unchanged (future to a victorian, but unknown to a modern)
steampunk is an individual envisionment of an alterd future according to the perspective of a patron of the victorian era (or that was the definition when the cocept of the genre was originally created by authors of the victorian era)
but of course given the fact that to most people the genre is kind of vage and that it is 2010 the line between past and future is often not very fine but the original definition of the genre remains unchanged (future to a victorian, but unknown to a modern)
ive found absolute tons of sites selling copper, leather,and brass clothing head great goggles and the such. but as a community fixated so much on the air ship ive found no working scale models, purhaps with odd usages. why not? ive seen vastly more creativity from steampunk artisans then almost any other underground community, and not one person has made one yet? If you to stumble across one how much do you think it would cost. PM me if anyone know of a source please
@tresanarchist a few have tried (im still trying) but there are always problems; power plant (needs to br light weight and powerful), envelope (needs to be made of light weight airtight material), gondola (again needs to be light weight and very strong because its the part your standing on), and all of it needs to be well balanced
(now i have the power plant, gondola, and rigging but i dont have the envalope or the helium to fill it)
@tresanarchist in responsse to my other comment i am actually going to make an actual flying full scale prototype it will be ugly as hell without a doubt but the gears are turning and the clock is ticking down to the worlds first "Steampunk Airship"
I think the Steampunk gadgets and machines are really cool, but man I don't seem to Identify with other steampunk fans at all.. seems like the same kids who were all into the Renaissance knights, princes, princesses, witches, and warlocks traded their suits of armor for some corroded brass goggles and a top hat.
I think a vast majority of people misunderstand what Steampunk really is. It is indeed a subculture but one that derives from the notion that the modern world didn't develop as it did but rather came about as a post-Apocalyptic Victorian world where modern technology is powered by steam instead of microprocessors and batteries. It's not so much based on a thought process as it is the depiction of an alternate future.
I'm probably wrong but at first glance this looks a bit like an alternative culture, centered around style yet lacking substance, used as a means to express one's individuality from a somewhat shallow style-obsessed mainstream culture.
@squishydevil When done right, the Steampunk look can be amazing. Look at Abney Park, for instance. People who make a half-hearted attempt, like those in this video, are the ones who make it a fashion faux pas.
goth isn't about black make-up and hot topic people... it's about a germanic culture dating back to the roman empire... and is the basic framework of most "old" european churches and other various architecture... i hate how the word has been used to describe a fashion statement... total slap in the face of the true heritage...
goth isn't about black make-up and hot topic people... it's about a germanic culture dating back to the roman empire... and is the basic framework of most "old" european churches and other various architecture... i hate how the word has been used to describe a fashion statement... total slap in the face of the true heritage...
@Spluce0 thats what it WAS about no one understands all that anymore goths used to have self respect but now it is a fashion statement, a way for teens to wallow in their own self pity, loiter like a fucking lump, and then expect the world to give them something
(if goth had a heritage then it no longer deserves it)
Windmil7. Any aspect in our lives where we judge a large portion of our character by our physical appearance, makes us fake. Style in itself is the illusion, from grunge to goth, professional to sheek. If your trying to show the world who your are by adhering to a select form of attire. You lose a sense of yourself. Maybe I am taking it too literal, getting worked up over nothing, but hell...personal opinion is a fickle mistress and I have to let her out when others inquire to her reasons.
@TraumStarke On the subject of cosplaying such as that seen in this video, perhaps steampunk could be said to be another false subculture. However, I think that, with regard to the artistic inspiration that can be attributed to it, steampunk has earned its legitimacy. Surely a genre with such creative output cannot be labeled as a 'false style'.
Lol, Aye I do believe I was a bit twisted up that night, but the basic message if you can pry it from in there is still pretty much the same. I do enjoy the aspect of the style and even some of the music, Abney Park has some nice tunes....but when the lead singer goes out in his back yard to burn a shirt giving it that "post apocalyptic appeal only to wear on an outdoor stroll to get the public's attention simply building up his "I'm alternative" meter than I tend to get a bit switched.
So in truth the only thing featured in this video is another group of outcasts looking for the new hot "original" idea so they can mod it, stamp it, make it, and wear it to show off to every other wannabe and create another damned subculture from nothing, adding more damn branches to that unappealing tree of daydreamers. To make a true stand, and carve a solid impression on the world, you solidify it in reality and own it through struggle and tenacity not by creating another false style.
what's it to you if some of us choose to daydream about whatever.
some people just aren't as realistic as you are.And whatever your version of "false style" is, i would really like to know what defines true style. What's it to you if people want to indulge themselves in their own fantasies.I just don't get you people who "get a bit switched" by whatever others do.
as much as i admire your rhetorical approach (tree of daydreamers), i believe you are streching it a bit too much.
No, If there were such an idea as "True Steampunk"..It would belong solemnly to the artists who create a dream-state and not to the unoriginal mid-twenties youth dressed in cog pieces that think retro goggles and a wire attire make them apart of a non existent idea. Jules Verne and H.G. Wells did not create a subculture, they were writers who told stories around the technology they were accustomed to. Said period in time, steam was the leading source for advancing cheap power.
@TraumStarke Wow, something's really wound you up.
Firstly: relax a bit would you?
Secondly: you don't seem to understand what you're talking about.
Thirdly: although you might feel the need to let off steam (alright that was terrible) at random passers by this just isn't the best place for it. Try a bit of tact and get off the soapbox. Steampunk is an aesthetic movement whether you like it or not and ranting won't change that.
no not necessarily it is actually a style where it is any advanced technology in old times like the 1800's or 1950's it is in books like 20,000 leagues under the sea and videogames like bioshock and fallout3
steampunk is a subculture based on a thought process the thought process is (from the mind of a victorian person) wondering what the future would/will be like that is the veary first and the truest definition there is
that's a good basic definition. To me, steampunk is about the blend of the classic and the modern, of bringing machinery into human scale, seeing the working parts, as opposed to simply plugging in a machine-stamped electrical component. Steampunk appeals to me, because the blending of the "old" and the "new" is generally how I live my life.
that is the only true definition simply because that is the one it was born with, when authors like jules vern and h.g. wells created the cocept of steampunk i think i actually posted a vid that talks about it
@marcuspinson I must disagree. The Steampunk origin is based on the 'alternate history' category of science fiction. What if...WWl never happened. What if...dirigibles turmed safe and effective. What if.....steam powered machinery won the battle against gasoline combustion. What if.....the list goes on.
@stayjit1 Abney Park SERIOUSLY rawks! If you have not heard them before you've got to give them a listen. I heard them this year at A-Kon and I'm a total convert.
Not really into abney park myself. I feel their sound does not capture the industrial feel when I think steam punk like When I think Heavy steam driven machinery.
On the other hand they do capture a bit of the elegant side of steam punk.
@marcuspinson so thses people pretend theyre in the victorian era, pretending that tthety know what the future will be like? that has got to be the stupidest thing ive ever heard in my life
@funkymoneylove no jackass they try to portray an age that never was (and varies from person to person) through fasion, art, film, and literature (its a subculture thats kind of what the whole subculture concept is all about just like goth but better because its more tasteful and there is more color and variety in style)
@marcuspinson so they pretend theyre in the past even though this timeperiod never happened in the past? that makes a lot more sence, and its much cooler than i first thought
@funkymoneylove thats the basic idea and it is cool and the aesthetic lots of fun to tinker with (and on top of that you can make it functional by modding things like cell phones and cars)
(p.s.- im sorry i snapped at you its just i have had to explain it to 15 people today and none of them seem to be capable to use their new shiny blobject 4g phones to find out for themselves)
@marcuspinson Well... not quite. You describe it as "retro-future" which is an image of the future as seen by those from past time periods.
Whereas Steampunk is closer to the future from an "alternate history," where Nicola Tesla was never born and everyone still used steam instead of electric current.
@portal1337 steampunk is be altered past to us but not to victorians to them it would be an advanced future thats why h.g. wells was/is so popular (and btw tesla is one of the biggest names in steampunk and steam power really isn't the main focus as far as energy is concerned as a mater of fact i hear the words aether, aetherium, I.C., and ligntning alot more than i do steam) so yea steampunk (given the time of its conception) is a "retro future"
@portal1337 the word steam in steampunk is simply a reference to "the age of steam" also known as the victorian era (its a reference to the time frame not the technology)
@marcuspinson No I think steam power plays a major role in the steampunk genre. Steam powered jetpacks, locomotives... etc
Maybe you are right about electricity having a role and Tesla existing. However, the genre's focus is still; what if all of our electric gadgetry ran on steam and clockwork instead? See the wikipedia page on steampunk to see what I mean.
@portal1337 steam dose play a major role but like i said the word steam in steampunk is a reference to the time not the tech (what your doing is like judging a book by its title and that type of veiw just isn't as well informed I have literally studied the genera almost 14 years now)
@portal1337 and on top of that it is a retro future because the genre was created by authors like H.G. Wells and Jules Verne who were pondering the future when they created it by writing the novels and most of the novels featured some type of exotic power source that was not steam (further stating that the word steam in the phrase steampunk is a reference to the time in which it is based not the technology)
@marcuspinson I would hardly even call it a genre, it's more of an aesthetic that is vaguely featured in some modern works, such as Bioshock. Characterized by steam based analog machinery and based on fiction by Verne and Well.
@portal1337 it embody's an entire culture how could it not be a genre i mean it has fashion, film, literature, and music (goth can't say the same for film or good literature unless you you count vampire novels but i consider that to be kindling not literature) and once analog machinery always makes an appearance yes but steam as the primary power source is RARELY present
@marcuspinson Gothics can claim a noteworthy physical presence in nearly every major town in the western world, which makes goth a subculture. Maybe there is no such thing as goth film or literature, but you can't say that either media has never been influenced by gothic culture.
Also, I do not believe that H. G. Wells ever referred to his work as 'steampunk' literature. Though I suppose the genre is based on retro-future as much as it is an alternate vision of our history.
@portal1337 oooh i see why you kept getting it wrong you see the label "steampunk" has only been around since the late 70's but the genre has been around since the victorian era
@portal1337 The aesthetic was created by futuristic authors of the victorian era like H.G. Wells and Jules Vern the lable "steampunk" was given a good time later
the concept and aesthetic have been around since the victorian era when authors wrote fictional novels about the future (this was the first appearance of the culture) then 100 years later in the 70's new authors decided that they liked the concept so much that they gave it the name "steampunk" and it went from a concept to a whole new genre with the creation of one word and has been growin stronger since
@marcuspinson Two novelists does not a culture make. Nor can you go back and say that this subgenre of literature and fashion has been around for 100 years if you've only named it a few decades ago. steampunk, much like cyberpunk, was a momentary literary fad that has dwindled ever since its inception into the a vague set of visual characteristics and costume pieces.
@portal1337 it was far more than two (all any author had to do was wright about what they thought the future might be like and quite a few did and it became the source of the style) but Vern and Wells are just more well known (and the literature has been around 100 years if someone wrote it 100 years ago) and what your saying is the logical equivalent of saying christianity didn't exist until the name was given it wasn't called christianity when it was created (im atheist and I understand this)
@marcuspinson While your reference to Vern and Wells is mostly accurate, the style known as Steampunk only cropped up recently, or at least within the last few decades. You have to understand that Steampunk derives from the idea of a post-apocalyptic Victorian society where the world is powered by steam technology. It's the idea of an alternate future, not the way Victorian society perceived the future to be.
@mgussow the label "steampunk" only came up recently but the style has been around since the victorian era and on top of that the post apocalyptic version is just that only a version of the genre not the whole thing (take a look at stardust, the golden compass, and steamboy none are post-apocalyptic all are steampunk) DO NOT argue with me about this i have done the appropriate research into the genre you clearly have not (abney park did not invent steampunk it has been around a very long time)
@marcuspinson Actually, the label "Steampunk" came up in 80's. While I fully acknowledge that Abney Park did not invent the genre, and that "Steampunk" is, compared to others, fairly new, it is widely accepted that the concept is still based on a post-apocalyptic world. What you're citing as examples are independent off-shoots that still hold true to the original concept in spirit. You can tell me not to argue with you but that means you're afraid of losing your argument.
@mgussow im not afraid of losing anything but ive studied the genre for 14 years now and understand a great deal more about the culture and its origins than many others and understand that it is a FACT that the genre was created before it had its name by authors of the victorian era and that the post-apocalyptic version is an off-shoot of the original concept that was created by the writers of the period who looked to the future for inspiration
@marcuspinson Additionally, do you think I haven't done my own research into the subject? Do you think you're the only one who knows anything? It's pretty arrogant of you to think that you're the only one that's right. Your argument as many valid points but you are missing one important detail: The style has existed for over 100 years because it WAS the style 100 years ago. As with most things, styles change but there are some who still enjoy them. Thus, Steampunk.
and some did write in the post-apocalyptic styling but it was a vast rarity and even then was considered an off-shoot of a sub-genre of writing that nodody could name some called it futuristic while others just called it fiction and without a name it was eventually overcome but the works of the authors remained dear to our hearts but the genre remained unnamed up until the 70's (and it was the 70's the 80's is when it got clumped in with goth and everything else considered altenative)
(cont*) when it was truly rediscoverd by authors who love the imagery and aesthetic qualitys so much that they breathed life into the genre once more by not just writing but making clothing and films as well but then they did the best thing, they gave it a name and thus the lable Steampunk was given and the unnamed sub-genre became an official sub-culture and has been getting better ever since
(btw i know you did your own reserch but i love to hangout in the library of congress when im in D.C.)
(cont*) so trie to understand when I say I respect your opinion but i think that whoever you got your information from may not have been as well informed as you think they were
@portal1337 I must refer you to my other posts where I have mentioned this previously but you seem to misunderstand what Steampunk is. Agreeably, those who make a half-hearted attempt at Steampunk give it a bad name but if you look at groups like Abney Park, you will see what Steampunk should look like. And again, I must reiterate that Steampunk is the idea of an alternate future in a post-apocalyptic Victorian society, not the perception of the future BY Victorian society.
@marcuspinson soz ur mom and what exactly do you think there is to lose here? a contest of who can get the most worked up over a retarded genre of cosplay? well, i guess there's no question you beat me in that category
@marcuspinson I would say steam punk is more like an alternative victorian era cause if you think about it everyone is actually dressed old school like just with mechanical limbs. No if we are really talking about futuristic mentality of how the future might be like id say Cybergoth is the way to go.
@SuperSimba6 well its and individual envisionment of an alterd future according to the perspective of a patron of the victorian era (or that was the definition when the cocept of the genre was originally created by authors of the victorian era)
but of course given the fact that to most people the genre is kind of vage and that it is 2010 the line between past and future is often not very fine but the original definition of the genre remains unchanged (future to a victorian unknown to a modern)
@SuperSimba6 not for lack of practice there are people that are realy into steampunk that know nothing about it and people that slander it because they dont understand what it is about (so i never stop practicing how to teach understaning to those who dont understand) but i think i got a pretty good explination to tell others by telling you (so thanks)
@SuperSimba6 I'd say steampunk includes both views of a future where steam is till widely used as well as an alternate timeline where Victorian technology achieved much more then it did in reality.
Elitism is the reason the Goth scene left me cold back in the late 80's, seems like same mentality with Steam Punk. All "subculture" looks are great,alot of room for creativity and mixing them up. I make my clothes,buy them second-hand.Why pay $100 for a skirt you can make for $20. Wear whatever,steampunk one day,rock-a-billy the next. Don't get into the"Be individual,as long as you're an individual just like me" mentality. Be what you want when you want! Be an INDIVIDUAL! (just my opinion)
blkbstofaargh 1 month ago
im all for "goth" and "punk" and being "artsy" but this is just too nerdy for me. it reminds me anime... barf...
aRiana992 1 month ago
@aRiana992 it's cool, you're too cool for nerdy stuff. got it. but "goth" isn't nerdy. and "punk" isn't either. even though I haven't met a single goth or punk who isn't nerdy as all hell.
mikebola 1 month ago
The definition of steampunk is very similar to that definition of pornography "I can't explain it, but I know it when I see it." This also encompasses the unsaid half, which is "I also know it when I don't see it.* Some people's definition is so loose, that anything with the label 'steampunk" on it qualifies. Hence a lot of people today are getting rich relabeling all that old Mad Max Road Warrior gear they had in the closet.
NelsonStJames 2 months ago
0:26 Now i have my ultamite final weapon, MOOSTACHE!!!
ZombehCheez01 2 months ago
i just wanted to know what this is its kinda stupid no offense to ppl that like it just my opininon
NYCGuitarist1 4 months ago
@NYCGuitarist1 no offense but your opinion SUCKS
Digijedi569 3 months ago
the music doesn't fit...
asm6ekyu 5 months ago
cool. I may start making steam punk stuff when I am finished my giant killer robot. Check my vids
crrider12564 5 months ago
Stuff like this needs to be seen at better that 240P
vince7777 5 months ago
what is cyberspace my good sir i only recognizw the space between cogs in my elab orate glasses
7giovina 5 months ago
On 0:32, WTF???
royaladam 5 months ago
They look like wannabes.
royaladam 5 months ago
This is , well... the single dumbest thing i think i have ever seen. lol i love life
attackbeaver49285 6 months ago
92 people suck ball! This kicks ass! Love the underscore; classical music is fabulous!
uniquepeople1 6 months ago 2
never even heard of steam punk culture until recently. kind of cool. some neat craftsmanship and ideas.
crrider12564 6 months ago
dressing up like a super nintendo final fantasy game ? awesome !
PHAEDRIDER 6 months ago
they aren't steampunk... they are cosplayer of steampunk...
KentaroDragonBreath 6 months ago
So, is "true" steampunk a lot like "true" punk, but with a lot more hot air?
TheGNUfan 7 months ago
its kinda freaky steampunk...
AntiPop4Ever 7 months ago
*milk comes out of nose* IS THAT MY DRAMA TEACHER FROM 7TH GRADE?! *grabs monitor screen and holds it up to face, nose squished against screen* ....no...no...NO WAIT! *pull out yearbook* no...darn...
eclips1994 7 months ago
There seems to be an obvious disregard for basic ballistics design in the guns they use...
Phantom663 7 months ago
the thing i really like about Steampunk is that a plus size 53 yearold like me can wear it and look good
madwitch58 7 months ago
Haha, Nice. In all honesty, some of those looked cheesy. But I guess, as the definition of steampunk has been so blatantly stated, any version of one's imagination of steampunk is, in fact, steampunk.
Also, at 1:00, the flag in the background: Albanian double-headed eagle. Red and black, baby!
vebulous 7 months ago
Hmm Fallout 3 wannabees
simrenpal 7 months ago
@simrenpal why dont you go on a fallout 3 video then
thegreenghost1000 7 months ago
I like his moustache...I wish I could grow one. But alas, I am a woman...dang...
DearMrOrMrs 7 months ago
i absolutely love the monocle at 0:23!
noahlankford1 8 months ago
Like it... Nice.
Pazuzuking 8 months ago
wasn't a fan of the music. not edgy enough.
vetdetta 8 months ago
@vetdetta Just shut up -.- No-one cares about your opinion of the music...
EvulDuckFiend 8 months ago 2
wild wild west ?
Alcatrazfreak 8 months ago
In every subculture there is a group of retards trying to limit and catagorise shit like this, always complaining about what the true culture, thats why I gave up trying to fit in and decide to be me: A rockingotheavymetalcabaretlovingpunksteampsychodelic guy.
EpicFail345 8 months ago 9
@EpicFail345 well said!
Sephiirah 8 months ago
No offense, but "true Steampunk" sounds like something a badly educated person or a try-hard would say.
MeneerNeus 8 months ago 6
with all these stolen pics u at least could have made a hd vid with a higher bitrate...but the music wuz good though..not my fav work of mendelson but still fine
HeTianHeng 9 months ago
MENDELSON SUCKS!
Bulwhyn 10 months ago
Yeah, I'll tell you what the Victorians did when they got their hands on technology ahead of its time-- they blew themselves to pieces for four years in World War 1. In their tinplate flying machines and creaky wind-up mechanical tanks, they managed enough wholesale slaughter to take most of the quaint out of "steam punk" for me. Any unearned quantum leap in technology can turn into a leap over the edge of an abyss.
schwebebahnable 10 months ago
Yeah. Steampunk is just Victorians or any time round about then or Edwardian with technology way ahead of it's time. But how would it look constructed back then. A fine example is Wild Wild West. and At the Earths core. Two pretty good movies. I love steampunk. and the women look fantastic. Hope it never dies. Looks like a great night. All the best.
kezadrone 10 months ago
wtf is true steampunk? you suck!
squishless 10 months ago
LOL , true Steampunk was the the industrial revolution that occurred in the 19Th and early 20Th century . People were really building great stuff in thier garages back then .The first airplane , the automobile , submarines , high speed boats , gyrocars and gyrotrains , the phone , electric light , radio ... our modern world is over 100 years old . Chuckle ...It's a great period to play around with , but it takes more then slapping some brass gears on stuff ,it doesn't need to cost a lot though.
Razzer1356 11 months ago 3
The guy featured most in this video, (good pic of just him at 0:35) is Danny/Vincent M. Dantes, (VladislausDantes on deviantart), he's an amazing artist and costumer. He makes most (if not all) of the costumes and accessories that he wears and carries. There's more pics on his dA account and on outlandarmour[dot]com, and I'm pretty sure the rest of them are part of his group of friends and fellow steampunks. Just thought someone should give some credit to the guy, since the credits don't :)
LunaticShapeshifter 11 months ago 4
all i see is cos-play. i doubt if their is any working mechanism in these props
8greyskull8 11 months ago
That fat girl with the nerf gun on her arm looks retarded
pudwhap 1 year ago
I'm kind of interested in finding out more about this sort of thing, but for some reason I'm trying to understand it still, is it kind of the same idea of league of extraordinary gentlemen, victorian era but with todays technology in a victorian style?? Metallica done to chamber music?? False limbs powered by pistons and that sort of thing??
tattoodfreeek 1 year ago
That girl with the pink hair is cute.
osmosys808 1 year ago
I put some thought into what the term "true steampunk" might entail. I do not think that the person who calls this "true steampunk" intended on creating strictures on creativity. I think that there is a basic consensus of what steampunk is, and that would be 1. Neovictorian 2. Certain aesthetic elements such as gears, steam tech, and especially brass. I would also add that other cultures from the 1800's would also be included, but the English heritidge of Steampunk deserves respect.
widugeist 1 year ago
fallout 3 is very steam punk
UltraViolence14 1 year ago
@UltraViolence14 Fallout 3 is based on the 1950's, so you're very far off on that assumption
snowbladetaki 1 year ago
@snowbladetaki i know but its very steam punk none the less !! have you even played the game
UltraViolence14 1 year ago
@UltraViolence14 My Gamertag is Negative ZZ. I've 100% the PC version of Fallout 3, and am like 80% done with the Xbox 360 version.
So yes, I have even played it, and it's still not even close to Steam Punk.
snowbladetaki 1 year ago
@snowbladetaki i still think its steam punk with the weapons and what not my tag is RAAM141 add me if your on oh though im never on lol
UltraViolence14 1 year ago
@UltraViolence14 It's far from Steampunk though. Bioshock Infinity is more like Steampunk.
snowbladetaki 1 year ago
@snowbladetaki bioshock never occurred to me i guess your right
UltraViolence14 1 year ago
@snowbladetaki Not sure if you know, so pleasedon't be offended. Fallout is based on an alternate timeline where the USA (not sure about the rest of the world) kept a 1950's attitude towards things including style and customs. In my view it is quite steampunk in the sense of an alternate timeline and some of it's styling. But this isn't really obvious at first. I know for certain that Fallout 3 and New Vegas have steam punk influences.
TheBobajango 1 year ago
@TheBobajango I know this. Steampunk is where you mix modern day science and engineering with victorian age styles. Pretty sure the victorian age wasn't in the 1950's
snowbladetaki 1 year ago
@snowbladetaki to clear things up
bioshock is not steampunk its dieselpunk which is around the 1950s
the weaponry is going to be similar but still clothing and style is not steampunk
bioshock 3 is looking to be a steampunk style which is odd considering the timeline continues forwards and yet the style reverses
im working on building the bioshock 2 shotgun (including the barrel rotators) for my steampunk collection but i wont be including the dieselpunk clothing and atmosphere style
hypopsycho 1 year ago
@hypopsycho Are you sure you even read my post? You guys all cease to amaze me. I said BIOSHOCK INFINITY (which is also known as BIOSHOCK 3) is Steampunk. I never said anything about BIOSHOCK 1 or 2.
snowbladetaki 1 year ago
This is the group from Outland Armour ( dot com) , met some of them this year at an SP convention
timrawr 1 year ago
i have seen many of these pics in my steampunk research and most are very great.My only problem is the mustaches and beards are so fake.A good facial hair appliance from a costume shop just needs a little combing and love to make it not look like it just came out of a box...Probably a pet peeve to me because facial hair is a part of what i do for a living...
WigManPhil 1 year ago
@animalystic420 Imagine if the age of information came about 100 years earlier.. its an individuals take on what life would be like-living in a victorian era.. with basic nano technology..
clutteredgiant 1 year ago
what am i looking at? not tryin to talk shit but seriously what is this?
animalystic420 1 year ago
@animalystic420 it's looking back at the past, and calling it the future.. being very impractical about steam.
jarak36 1 year ago
@animalystic420 google steampunk.... i mean what made you look at this video in the first place?
WigManPhil 1 year ago
That really wouldnt be true steampunk. If your going to go for authenticity you should probably invest in aquiring like period clothing versus having all the women dress as slutty as possible. Half the women would be killed in that era for being harlots.
cameronmullins 1 year ago
lol, steampunk looks awesome!
lilwill3104 1 year ago
oh my...
i remember last march i saw this darling elderly couple, and they wore steampunk, while hold some exagerated guns.
i wish my granparent were like that,,,, *O*
DianaLoliX3 1 year ago 39
@DianaLoliX3 make your wish come true , by becoming that very great thing your elders didn't, and you know is just great. But don't forget that your elders are great in their own way, they might not have some unique artistic way to express it , but they all have this beautiful treasures. respect them for it.
MsKahla 7 months ago
If I am not mistaken, it goes back to the "Space 1899" game series, an alternate reality where certain elements of magic and science combine to make a Jules Verne type of universe, but also with space and time travel beginning with the discovery of the ability to "sail" in space-time in the mid-1800s. The artwork and style got picked up in several movies so far. Van Helsing, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen and a few straight to video types follow the genre.
PDXBikes 1 year ago
@PDXBikes You are indeed mistaken, if you research you learn that both the Victorian/Edwardian aesthetic as well as Wells and Verne inspired art in multiple media has been a continuous facet of the fantasy/sci-fi genre since it's inception nor have they lost any of their appeal over the years. One very easily can see the steampunkesque elements of the early Buster Crab serials, but that is probably before your time. One can point to the Rocketeer and others that certainly pre-date "Space 1899".
Rachailbabe 1 year ago
i love steampunk! it kinda looks a little like cosplay to me though.but i know its sorta a subculture :)
ihateteddddyx 1 year ago
Badass.
BoyWithBlackWings07 1 year ago
Calling it "true" Steampunk does exactly what the movement is against, which is limiting the imagination. It can be the far flung future or an alternate past. Some people have tons of money and tiem to devote to it, others don't. If there's a "True Steampunk" it's whatever and however the person with the imagination envisions it.
lawstsoul 1 year ago 223
@lawstsoul I rap. The words don't rhyme and the music is just me randomly strumming a banjo and blowing in a kazoo. But it's rap because I envision it that way.
donkameron 1 year ago
@donkameron lulz
TheVirtualStoa 1 year ago
@lawstsoul
I think the fucking point here smartass is that these people went really far to put their imagination into reality, don't flame for some guy celebrating it. infact he may only be calling it "true" steampunk because of the effort they put in, not the content.
sproutamation 1 year ago
@lawstsoul Thank you so much my good sir! I only have enough money to tear apart plastic things, paint and glue them together, so thank you!
SpadXIIIFlyer 1 year ago
@lawstsoul Exactly thanks for the comment.
zXAnimeKingXz 11 months ago
@lawstsoul The only thing to remember about steam punk...is the word "punk."
Philsco 9 months ago
@lawstsoul you deserve those thumbs up more then anyone i've ever given a thumbs ups to before
SpocksBeard64 7 months ago
@lawstsoul I've seen a rant on youtube about how people where buying trench coats on bargain deals and not makeing it themselves and she said it wasn't steampunk. I though to myself "D: I'll never be a steampunk because I'll never be able to afford the tailored suits and stuff and I'll never have the time and skill to make it!" But this is very reasureing, thanks ^_^
coutterboy 4 months ago
This should be named as cosplay at it finest
xXOphidianXx 1 year ago
Awesome on so many different levels!
CdeezGutsB 1 year ago
steampunk is an individual envisionment of an alterd future according to the perspective of a patron of the victorian era (or that was the definition when the cocept of the genre was originally created by authors of the victorian era)
but of course given the fact that to most people the genre is kind of vage and that it is 2010 the line between past and future is often not very fine but the original definition of the genre remains unchanged (future to a victorian, but unknown to a modern)
marcuspinson 1 year ago
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steampunk is an individual envisionment of an alterd future according to the perspective of a patron of the victorian era (or that was the definition when the cocept of the genre was originally created by authors of the victorian era)
but of course given the fact that to most people the genre is kind of vage and that it is 2010 the line between past and future is often not very fine but the original definition of the genre remains unchanged (future to a victorian, but unknown to a modern)
marcuspinson 1 year ago
ive found absolute tons of sites selling copper, leather,and brass clothing head great goggles and the such. but as a community fixated so much on the air ship ive found no working scale models, purhaps with odd usages. why not? ive seen vastly more creativity from steampunk artisans then almost any other underground community, and not one person has made one yet? If you to stumble across one how much do you think it would cost. PM me if anyone know of a source please
tresanarchist 1 year ago
@tresanarchist a few have tried (im still trying) but there are always problems; power plant (needs to br light weight and powerful), envelope (needs to be made of light weight airtight material), gondola (again needs to be light weight and very strong because its the part your standing on), and all of it needs to be well balanced
(now i have the power plant, gondola, and rigging but i dont have the envalope or the helium to fill it)
marcuspinson 1 year ago
@tresanarchist in responsse to my other comment i am actually going to make an actual flying full scale prototype it will be ugly as hell without a doubt but the gears are turning and the clock is ticking down to the worlds first "Steampunk Airship"
marcuspinson 1 year ago
somebody has been watching to much of that Time Machine Movie. Or have been playing way to much Dark Earth Ancient Micropose PC Game.
PainlessTragedy 1 year ago
I think the Steampunk gadgets and machines are really cool, but man I don't seem to Identify with other steampunk fans at all.. seems like the same kids who were all into the Renaissance knights, princes, princesses, witches, and warlocks traded their suits of armor for some corroded brass goggles and a top hat.
JoeyBreaks 1 year ago
@JoeyBreaks Yep, that seems like it.
VideoGameMaster56 1 year ago
I think a vast majority of people misunderstand what Steampunk really is. It is indeed a subculture but one that derives from the notion that the modern world didn't develop as it did but rather came about as a post-Apocalyptic Victorian world where modern technology is powered by steam instead of microprocessors and batteries. It's not so much based on a thought process as it is the depiction of an alternate future.
mgussow 1 year ago
I'm probably wrong but at first glance this looks a bit like an alternative culture, centered around style yet lacking substance, used as a means to express one's individuality from a somewhat shallow style-obsessed mainstream culture.
lorax2013 1 year ago
Man, Steampunk should blend in, not make you look like a total uber dweeb.
squishydevil 1 year ago
@squishydevil When done right, the Steampunk look can be amazing. Look at Abney Park, for instance. People who make a half-hearted attempt, like those in this video, are the ones who make it a fashion faux pas.
mgussow 1 year ago
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goth isn't about black make-up and hot topic people... it's about a germanic culture dating back to the roman empire... and is the basic framework of most "old" european churches and other various architecture... i hate how the word has been used to describe a fashion statement... total slap in the face of the true heritage...
Spluce0 1 year ago
goth isn't about black make-up and hot topic people... it's about a germanic culture dating back to the roman empire... and is the basic framework of most "old" european churches and other various architecture... i hate how the word has been used to describe a fashion statement... total slap in the face of the true heritage...
Spluce0 1 year ago
@Spluce0 thats what it WAS about no one understands all that anymore goths used to have self respect but now it is a fashion statement, a way for teens to wallow in their own self pity, loiter like a fucking lump, and then expect the world to give them something
(if goth had a heritage then it no longer deserves it)
marcuspinson 1 year ago
heh suddenly I have a craving to play Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura...I wonder why
CorvusCorone68 1 year ago
Welcome to the Future Past, were everybody has a ray gun!
cerickNY 1 year ago
yo ima metal head and even i think that shits gay fake toy guns what are you 5
tokemasterful 1 year ago
@tokemasterful
Not sure what being a metal head has to do with steam punk culture...but any ways..
steam punk is very creative. I know a guy who makes amazing Goggles and top hats
lilfisticuffs 1 year ago
I believe all of the photos are of The Outlanders aka Outland Armour.
clockwrkcabaret 1 year ago
who is the guy at 0:36 seconds? his out fit is really awesome
danfish88 1 year ago
I think this subculture genre kicks ass.
Sajjadjinn 1 year ago
Does "Wild Wild West" use steampunk props inits film?
iRHAPEzombiies 1 year ago
@iRHAPEzombiies
Yes, it was actually a very steam punkish movie.
Definitely one of my favorites.
TheOriginalArchetype 1 year ago
@iRHAPEzombiies Oh yes! In fact "Wild Wild West" is one of the movies listed in a book I own about the steampunk genre and movement.
TheOnlySilverUnicorn 1 year ago
You should've so used a Abney Park song.
Wheeliecoolgirl 1 year ago
if you can touch them they are real
colinreedmiller 1 year ago
Wow, Miss Pink hair.
cryora 1 year ago
Windmil7. Any aspect in our lives where we judge a large portion of our character by our physical appearance, makes us fake. Style in itself is the illusion, from grunge to goth, professional to sheek. If your trying to show the world who your are by adhering to a select form of attire. You lose a sense of yourself. Maybe I am taking it too literal, getting worked up over nothing, but hell...personal opinion is a fickle mistress and I have to let her out when others inquire to her reasons.
TraumStarke 1 year ago
@TraumStarke On the subject of cosplaying such as that seen in this video, perhaps steampunk could be said to be another false subculture. However, I think that, with regard to the artistic inspiration that can be attributed to it, steampunk has earned its legitimacy. Surely a genre with such creative output cannot be labeled as a 'false style'.
MonkeyBoy9753 1 year ago 10
please tell'em
windmil7 1 year ago
Lol, Aye I do believe I was a bit twisted up that night, but the basic message if you can pry it from in there is still pretty much the same. I do enjoy the aspect of the style and even some of the music, Abney Park has some nice tunes....but when the lead singer goes out in his back yard to burn a shirt giving it that "post apocalyptic appeal only to wear on an outdoor stroll to get the public's attention simply building up his "I'm alternative" meter than I tend to get a bit switched.
TraumStarke 1 year ago
So in truth the only thing featured in this video is another group of outcasts looking for the new hot "original" idea so they can mod it, stamp it, make it, and wear it to show off to every other wannabe and create another damned subculture from nothing, adding more damn branches to that unappealing tree of daydreamers. To make a true stand, and carve a solid impression on the world, you solidify it in reality and own it through struggle and tenacity not by creating another false style.
TraumStarke 1 year ago
chill dude
what's it to you if some of us choose to daydream about whatever.
some people just aren't as realistic as you are.And whatever your version of "false style" is, i would really like to know what defines true style. What's it to you if people want to indulge themselves in their own fantasies.I just don't get you people who "get a bit switched" by whatever others do.
as much as i admire your rhetorical approach (tree of daydreamers), i believe you are streching it a bit too much.
windmil7 1 year ago
No, If there were such an idea as "True Steampunk"..It would belong solemnly to the artists who create a dream-state and not to the unoriginal mid-twenties youth dressed in cog pieces that think retro goggles and a wire attire make them apart of a non existent idea. Jules Verne and H.G. Wells did not create a subculture, they were writers who told stories around the technology they were accustomed to. Said period in time, steam was the leading source for advancing cheap power.
TraumStarke 1 year ago
@TraumStarke Wow, something's really wound you up.
Firstly: relax a bit would you?
Secondly: you don't seem to understand what you're talking about.
Thirdly: although you might feel the need to let off steam (alright that was terrible) at random passers by this just isn't the best place for it. Try a bit of tact and get off the soapbox. Steampunk is an aesthetic movement whether you like it or not and ranting won't change that.
rantingpagan 1 year ago
not one skinny cosplayer...
if i didn't know what steampunk was, i'd imagine it were some cheesy anime
anongotlulz 1 year ago
no not necessarily it is actually a style where it is any advanced technology in old times like the 1800's or 1950's it is in books like 20,000 leagues under the sea and videogames like bioshock and fallout3
MrDANstudios 1 year ago
The remake of "The Time Machine" meets "Time After Time" meets Brass-O!
Nifty babes!
voidforpurpose 1 year ago
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this is ass! i prefer horror punk any given day :)
TheAlienskum 1 year ago
same here!!!!!
AVGreaser 1 year ago
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Fad.
killersushi99 1 year ago
steampunk is a subculture based on a thought process the thought process is (from the mind of a victorian person) wondering what the future would/will be like that is the veary first and the truest definition there is
marcuspinson 2 years ago 16
that's a good basic definition. To me, steampunk is about the blend of the classic and the modern, of bringing machinery into human scale, seeing the working parts, as opposed to simply plugging in a machine-stamped electrical component. Steampunk appeals to me, because the blending of the "old" and the "new" is generally how I live my life.
monkeydog2332 1 year ago
that is the only true definition simply because that is the one it was born with, when authors like jules vern and h.g. wells created the cocept of steampunk i think i actually posted a vid that talks about it
marcuspinson 1 year ago
@marcuspinson I must disagree. The Steampunk origin is based on the 'alternate history' category of science fiction. What if...WWl never happened. What if...dirigibles turmed safe and effective. What if.....steam powered machinery won the battle against gasoline combustion. What if.....the list goes on.
stayjit1 1 year ago
@stayjit1 Oh, and BTW, Abney Park rawks
stayjit1 1 year ago
@stayjit1 Abney Park SERIOUSLY rawks! If you have not heard them before you've got to give them a listen. I heard them this year at A-Kon and I'm a total convert.
Zangarang 1 year ago
@Zangarang
Not really into abney park myself. I feel their sound does not capture the industrial feel when I think steam punk like When I think Heavy steam driven machinery.
On the other hand they do capture a bit of the elegant side of steam punk.
lilfisticuffs 1 year ago
that is exactly what i said just not exactly how i said it
marcuspinson 1 year ago
@marcuspinson
That and hot chicks abusing Victorian styles has some absolutely sexy results.
Hardwyre 1 year ago
@Hardwyre that too lol
marcuspinson 1 year ago
@marcuspinson so thses people pretend theyre in the victorian era, pretending that tthety know what the future will be like? that has got to be the stupidest thing ive ever heard in my life
funkymoneylove 1 year ago
@funkymoneylove no jackass they try to portray an age that never was (and varies from person to person) through fasion, art, film, and literature (its a subculture thats kind of what the whole subculture concept is all about just like goth but better because its more tasteful and there is more color and variety in style)
marcuspinson 1 year ago
@marcuspinson so they pretend theyre in the past even though this timeperiod never happened in the past? that makes a lot more sence, and its much cooler than i first thought
funkymoneylove 1 year ago
@funkymoneylove thats the basic idea and it is cool and the aesthetic lots of fun to tinker with (and on top of that you can make it functional by modding things like cell phones and cars)
(p.s.- im sorry i snapped at you its just i have had to explain it to 15 people today and none of them seem to be capable to use their new shiny blobject 4g phones to find out for themselves)
marcuspinson 1 year ago
@marcuspinson Well... not quite. You describe it as "retro-future" which is an image of the future as seen by those from past time periods.
Whereas Steampunk is closer to the future from an "alternate history," where Nicola Tesla was never born and everyone still used steam instead of electric current.
portal1337 1 year ago
@portal1337 steampunk is be altered past to us but not to victorians to them it would be an advanced future thats why h.g. wells was/is so popular (and btw tesla is one of the biggest names in steampunk and steam power really isn't the main focus as far as energy is concerned as a mater of fact i hear the words aether, aetherium, I.C., and ligntning alot more than i do steam) so yea steampunk (given the time of its conception) is a "retro future"
marcuspinson 1 year ago
@marcuspinson but what is steampunk if steam powered gadgetry isn't the focus?
portal1337 1 year ago
@portal1337 the word steam in steampunk is simply a reference to "the age of steam" also known as the victorian era (its a reference to the time frame not the technology)
marcuspinson 1 year ago
@marcuspinson No I think steam power plays a major role in the steampunk genre. Steam powered jetpacks, locomotives... etc
Maybe you are right about electricity having a role and Tesla existing. However, the genre's focus is still; what if all of our electric gadgetry ran on steam and clockwork instead? See the wikipedia page on steampunk to see what I mean.
portal1337 1 year ago
@portal1337 steam dose play a major role but like i said the word steam in steampunk is a reference to the time not the tech (what your doing is like judging a book by its title and that type of veiw just isn't as well informed I have literally studied the genera almost 14 years now)
marcuspinson 1 year ago
@portal1337 and on top of that it is a retro future because the genre was created by authors like H.G. Wells and Jules Verne who were pondering the future when they created it by writing the novels and most of the novels featured some type of exotic power source that was not steam (further stating that the word steam in the phrase steampunk is a reference to the time in which it is based not the technology)
marcuspinson 1 year ago
@marcuspinson I would hardly even call it a genre, it's more of an aesthetic that is vaguely featured in some modern works, such as Bioshock. Characterized by steam based analog machinery and based on fiction by Verne and Well.
portal1337 1 year ago
@portal1337 it embody's an entire culture how could it not be a genre i mean it has fashion, film, literature, and music (goth can't say the same for film or good literature unless you you count vampire novels but i consider that to be kindling not literature) and once analog machinery always makes an appearance yes but steam as the primary power source is RARELY present
marcuspinson 1 year ago
@marcuspinson Gothics can claim a noteworthy physical presence in nearly every major town in the western world, which makes goth a subculture. Maybe there is no such thing as goth film or literature, but you can't say that either media has never been influenced by gothic culture.
Also, I do not believe that H. G. Wells ever referred to his work as 'steampunk' literature. Though I suppose the genre is based on retro-future as much as it is an alternate vision of our history.
portal1337 1 year ago
@portal1337 oooh i see why you kept getting it wrong you see the label "steampunk" has only been around since the late 70's but the genre has been around since the victorian era
marcuspinson 1 year ago
@marcuspinson The genre was born with the label, you cannot retroactively claim that it has been around since the victorian era, that's just silly.
portal1337 1 year ago
@portal1337 The aesthetic was created by futuristic authors of the victorian era like H.G. Wells and Jules Vern the lable "steampunk" was given a good time later
marcuspinson 1 year ago
@portal1337 so yea i think i can "retroactively" claim that steampunk was around long b4 it recived the lable
marcuspinson 1 year ago
@marcuspinson thats bullshit, punk is from the 70s and steam is from the victorian era
portal1337 1 year ago
@portal1337 thats what i just said
(ok this time actually read what i write)
the concept and aesthetic have been around since the victorian era when authors wrote fictional novels about the future (this was the first appearance of the culture) then 100 years later in the 70's new authors decided that they liked the concept so much that they gave it the name "steampunk" and it went from a concept to a whole new genre with the creation of one word and has been growin stronger since
marcuspinson 1 year ago
@marcuspinson Two novelists does not a culture make. Nor can you go back and say that this subgenre of literature and fashion has been around for 100 years if you've only named it a few decades ago. steampunk, much like cyberpunk, was a momentary literary fad that has dwindled ever since its inception into the a vague set of visual characteristics and costume pieces.
portal1337 1 year ago
@portal1337 it was far more than two (all any author had to do was wright about what they thought the future might be like and quite a few did and it became the source of the style) but Vern and Wells are just more well known (and the literature has been around 100 years if someone wrote it 100 years ago) and what your saying is the logical equivalent of saying christianity didn't exist until the name was given it wasn't called christianity when it was created (im atheist and I understand this)
marcuspinson 1 year ago
@marcuspinson While your reference to Vern and Wells is mostly accurate, the style known as Steampunk only cropped up recently, or at least within the last few decades. You have to understand that Steampunk derives from the idea of a post-apocalyptic Victorian society where the world is powered by steam technology. It's the idea of an alternate future, not the way Victorian society perceived the future to be.
mgussow 1 year ago
@mgussow the label "steampunk" only came up recently but the style has been around since the victorian era and on top of that the post apocalyptic version is just that only a version of the genre not the whole thing (take a look at stardust, the golden compass, and steamboy none are post-apocalyptic all are steampunk) DO NOT argue with me about this i have done the appropriate research into the genre you clearly have not (abney park did not invent steampunk it has been around a very long time)
marcuspinson 1 year ago
@marcuspinson Actually, the label "Steampunk" came up in 80's. While I fully acknowledge that Abney Park did not invent the genre, and that "Steampunk" is, compared to others, fairly new, it is widely accepted that the concept is still based on a post-apocalyptic world. What you're citing as examples are independent off-shoots that still hold true to the original concept in spirit. You can tell me not to argue with you but that means you're afraid of losing your argument.
mgussow 1 year ago
@mgussow im not afraid of losing anything but ive studied the genre for 14 years now and understand a great deal more about the culture and its origins than many others and understand that it is a FACT that the genre was created before it had its name by authors of the victorian era and that the post-apocalyptic version is an off-shoot of the original concept that was created by the writers of the period who looked to the future for inspiration
marcuspinson 1 year ago
@marcuspinson Additionally, do you think I haven't done my own research into the subject? Do you think you're the only one who knows anything? It's pretty arrogant of you to think that you're the only one that's right. Your argument as many valid points but you are missing one important detail: The style has existed for over 100 years because it WAS the style 100 years ago. As with most things, styles change but there are some who still enjoy them. Thus, Steampunk.
mgussow 1 year ago
and some did write in the post-apocalyptic styling but it was a vast rarity and even then was considered an off-shoot of a sub-genre of writing that nodody could name some called it futuristic while others just called it fiction and without a name it was eventually overcome but the works of the authors remained dear to our hearts but the genre remained unnamed up until the 70's (and it was the 70's the 80's is when it got clumped in with goth and everything else considered altenative)
marcuspinson 1 year ago
(cont*) when it was truly rediscoverd by authors who love the imagery and aesthetic qualitys so much that they breathed life into the genre once more by not just writing but making clothing and films as well but then they did the best thing, they gave it a name and thus the lable Steampunk was given and the unnamed sub-genre became an official sub-culture and has been getting better ever since
(btw i know you did your own reserch but i love to hangout in the library of congress when im in D.C.)
marcuspinson 1 year ago
(cont*) so trie to understand when I say I respect your opinion but i think that whoever you got your information from may not have been as well informed as you think they were
marcuspinson 1 year ago
@portal1337 I must refer you to my other posts where I have mentioned this previously but you seem to misunderstand what Steampunk is. Agreeably, those who make a half-hearted attempt at Steampunk give it a bad name but if you look at groups like Abney Park, you will see what Steampunk should look like. And again, I must reiterate that Steampunk is the idea of an alternate future in a post-apocalyptic Victorian society, not the perception of the future BY Victorian society.
mgussow 1 year ago
@marcuspinson nice douchebag quotes by the way but that word exists and applies to this situation
portal1337 1 year ago
@portal1337 and i know its a word
(and there is no need for vugarity after all it is the mark of a sore loser)
marcuspinson 1 year ago
@marcuspinson soz ur mom and what exactly do you think there is to lose here? a contest of who can get the most worked up over a retarded genre of cosplay? well, i guess there's no question you beat me in that category
portal1337 1 year ago
@marcuspinson I would say steam punk is more like an alternative victorian era cause if you think about it everyone is actually dressed old school like just with mechanical limbs. No if we are really talking about futuristic mentality of how the future might be like id say Cybergoth is the way to go.
SuperSimba6 1 year ago
@SuperSimba6 well its and individual envisionment of an alterd future according to the perspective of a patron of the victorian era (or that was the definition when the cocept of the genre was originally created by authors of the victorian era)
but of course given the fact that to most people the genre is kind of vage and that it is 2010 the line between past and future is often not very fine but the original definition of the genre remains unchanged (future to a victorian unknown to a modern)
marcuspinson 1 year ago
@marcuspinson oic, makes sense
SuperSimba6 1 year ago
@SuperSimba6 not for lack of practice there are people that are realy into steampunk that know nothing about it and people that slander it because they dont understand what it is about (so i never stop practicing how to teach understaning to those who dont understand) but i think i got a pretty good explination to tell others by telling you (so thanks)
marcuspinson 1 year ago
@SuperSimba6 I'd say steampunk includes both views of a future where steam is till widely used as well as an alternate timeline where Victorian technology achieved much more then it did in reality.